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Speaker 4: All right, ladies, the Dallas Cowboys back at the Star

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Speaker 4: and first go tonight for an open training camp for

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Speaker 4: the local folks here in the DFW area. So very

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Speaker 4: exciting times. However, a little somber weekend, if you will,

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Speaker 4: with those injury updates, So let's get Let's get into

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Speaker 4: that first, because I really feel like we need to

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Speaker 4: give some flowers where they're due.

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Speaker 2: As far as the guys.

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Speaker 4: That had impacted, we know Demarvin Overshown and John Stevens

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Speaker 4: Junior out for the season with acl injuries on their

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Speaker 4: I have not been able to really absorb this for

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Speaker 4: them because it is such a devastating blow. We had

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Speaker 4: a conference call with Mike McCarthy yesterday, and he talked

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Speaker 4: about these guys specifically, and he was very very empathetic

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Speaker 4: head coach. He didn't make it about business. He said,

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Speaker 4: we have to keep our arms around both young men

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Speaker 2: He basically talked about.

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Speaker 4: both of them to grow in other areas in the

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Speaker 4: we lost two of the brightest stars in our rookie class.

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Speaker 4: So again you could tell it just weighed heavy on

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Speaker 2: Star of the rookie class.

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Speaker 4: Ladies, I just wanted I want to open this first

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Speaker 4: segment up to talk about Demarvian and John, because really,

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Speaker 4: that they've been doing. Haley, you did that amazing story

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Speaker 2: I personally I need to.

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Speaker 4: Get this off my chest because, like I said, it's

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Speaker 4: feeled the same way for you guys. So, Haley, what

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Speaker 4: was it like when you were there, because you were

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Speaker 2: Did you get to talk to them kind of what happened?

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Speaker 6: And so there was a picture as we were going

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Speaker 5: And so I walked back and it.

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Speaker 6: And I look at Demo and I said, how are

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Speaker 6: And you've seen it all over his social media this

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Speaker 6: because to Mike McCarthy's point, he has been the best

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Speaker 6: I'm not so much worried about it because I know

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Speaker 6: if any of those guys were going to take on

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Speaker 5: So he is in good spirits.

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Speaker 6: I know it's going to get frustrating at times, but

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Speaker 6: But at the same time, I know that he's going

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Speaker 9: Yeah, to pick your back off of that, Like I

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Speaker 7: He was being for real, like I believe it.

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Speaker 9: I believe that he feels like he can get through

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Speaker 4: And yeah. No, And I was going to say, when

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Speaker 4: you have guys in this room that know what it's like.

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Speaker 4: He was asked about the depth and the linebacker group

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Speaker 4: and saying, you know, he was asked, what does this mean?

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Speaker 4: mentioning Devid Harper and Gibearrel Cox by name. So those

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Speaker 9: the conversation of like, okay, is he gonna make this roster?

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Speaker 9: Are you gonna are you gonna keep on keep four

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Speaker 7: Is this gonna work?

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Speaker 9: we're gonna give these guys the opportunity. And I in fairness,

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Speaker 4: No, that's a great point, great point, Hayley. We just

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Speaker 2: When seven two nine zero three two nine eight.

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Speaker 4: By the way, who do you think this new star

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Speaker 6: He has such the potential to be everything you want

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Speaker 6: I every time I've heard Mike McCarthy say a player

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Speaker 4: Right, So we'll see with that, And then Ronald Jones,

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Speaker 4: But overall we're going to get into the offensive line

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Speaker 6: tried to play through this injury. I think they tried

441
00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,359
Speaker 6: it for about four weeks before they decided we just

442
00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,919
Speaker 6: need to go ahead and have the surgery. So, if

443
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,840
Speaker 6: I'm using context clues here, I would assume that the

444
00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,560
Speaker 6: subluxation isn't as intense as the one last year, which

445
00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:22,960
Speaker 6: is why they seemed to be confident about it. But again,

446
00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,040
Speaker 6: you know, you just don't know. To me, that's something

447
00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:26,760
Speaker 6: that you don't want to play with You've already had

448
00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,320
Speaker 6: a soldier surgery for the same thing on one side.

449
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,360
Speaker 5: I don't know if you want it on the second shoulder.

450
00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:36,760
Speaker 6: So yeah, it's interesting, but it definitely continues to deplete

451
00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,440
Speaker 6: an offensive line that really, really really could use some

452
00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:41,000
Speaker 6: depth at this moment.

453
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Speaker 5: So definitely something to monitor this week at practice.

454
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Speaker 9: Yeah, we were really looking for Matt will Let's Go

455
00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,080
Speaker 9: to possibly come him and be that swing guy and

456
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Speaker 9: go ahead and shure that up. But I think we

457
00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,879
Speaker 9: talked about it before last season. My niece, she played

458
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,720
Speaker 9: basketball overseas. He played all through high school. That was

459
00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,719
Speaker 9: an injury she dealt with, and she had a similar

460
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,280
Speaker 9: incident where it wasn't a complete.

461
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:04,399
Speaker 7: Subflexion is how you say.

462
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 9: It's subluxation sub sublexation, but it wasn't a complete one

463
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,680
Speaker 9: to her other side, where she had they had told

464
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 9: her she needs to have surgery, but it was enough

465
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 9: to irritate her similar to how well Let's Go was

466
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,920
Speaker 9: and basically from her and again I'm just talking about

467
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 9: my experience, they were telling her that it's a structural thing,

468
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,200
Speaker 9: that it's a hereditary type thing that she's dealing with.

469
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 9: And I didn't know this until someone mentioned it to

470
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Speaker 9: me on Twitter. They were like, hey, I passed it

471
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,199
Speaker 9: down to my daughters and it's a hereditary thing. So

472
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,439
Speaker 9: I contacted my niece and I was like, hey, is

473
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Speaker 9: did they say that to you at the doctor and

474
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:41,959
Speaker 9: she was like, yeah, they told me that it was

475
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Speaker 9: probably going to continue to happen unless I had surgery

476
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 9: on both of my shoulders. And this is, in turn

477
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,680
Speaker 9: an injury that actually retired her from her basketball career.

478
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,959
Speaker 9: She played from the time she could walk, So it

479
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,479
Speaker 9: can be an injury that can linger if it's not

480
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Speaker 9: taken care of properly.

481
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Speaker 7: So Matt Wills goes very and gentlemen.

482
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Speaker 9: I really just am more concerned with his overall health

483
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 9: and hopefully that he's okay moving forward, because we're not

484
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,400
Speaker 9: just we're not just thinking about what happens in this game.

485
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 7: We're also thinking about what happens after.

486
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 9: They're done, right, So and so it has His injury,

487
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,400
Speaker 9: though back to the ex's and No's, has definitely concerned

488
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 9: me about who's going to be that swing tackle because

489
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,399
Speaker 9: also too, you're looking at Idoga that is, you know,

490
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,920
Speaker 9: hasn't been playing because he's sailing with the injury as well.

491
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 9: So We'll be interested to see what they do in

492
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 9: that for that position, if that is bringing a veteran.

493
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Speaker 2: In later in the off season.

494
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Speaker 4: Yeah, overall, the depth is I think what's starting to

495
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 4: concern a little bit is you you came into training

496
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,239
Speaker 4: camp with a lot of depth with these guys and

497
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 4: younger guys that really could prove themselves. And now injury,

498
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 4: of course, and unfortunately it's just a part of the

499
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,360
Speaker 4: game and we hate to see it for anybody. It's happened,

500
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 4: and so now the question is who is that swing tackle?

501
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,639
Speaker 4: Who is that guy for the team? Some guys I

502
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 4: wanted to mention on the O line that I saw

503
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 4: some great things for was TJ.

504
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 2: Bass.

505
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Speaker 4: You already mentioned awesome, which was awesome. I love that,

506
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 4: But I think TJ. Bass did a really good job.

507
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,439
Speaker 4: Matt Owen tweeted out stats from PFF saying that he

508
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 4: was second on the top five blocking grades versus the Seahawks,

509
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 4: just behind Josh Ball. The Great Josh Ball had a

510
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 4: grade of eighty six point five and then TJ. Bass

511
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 4: had a grade of eighty two point four. I thought

512
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 4: those were really really great stats to see. And then

513
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,159
Speaker 4: of course right behind him was Rico Dowdell, Malik Davis,

514
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 4: and then Alec Linstrom your top five there.

515
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 2: So, Hayley, who did you see as far as you.

516
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 4: Know, guys on the O line that have really stepped

517
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 4: up and had a good camp, really had a progression

518
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 4: throughout camp, because it's not just what you see during preseason.

519
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 4: You were at camp with them throughout the entire time.

520
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 4: They were an Oxnard, who have you seen really grow

521
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 4: throughout this time?

522
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Speaker 5: I like TJ.

523
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 2: Bass.

524
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Speaker 5: I like what he brings to the table.

525
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 6: I think he's got a great attitude as well, and

526
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 6: you can't have enough kids, you know, to have good attitudes,

527
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:58,360
Speaker 6: especially when.

528
00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 5: There's a lot of.

529
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 6: Flexibility for lack of better terms on that offensive line.

530
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 6: And I think brock Hoffman as well has been really effective.

531
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Speaker 6: And what I love about Brock is he reminds me

532
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 6: a lot of Tyler Battish in the sense of like

533
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 6: he's gonna ride for his dogs no matter what. He

534
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 6: may cause some trouble as we saw on that last

535
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 6: day of practice, but that's the guy that you want

536
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 6: on your team. You want the guy who's going to

537
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 6: go to bat for you, you know, lining up in

538
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 6: front of you. So I think those two guys, But

539
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 6: I got to be honest, I just I'm going I

540
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 6: keep looking down because I've got the roster here, and

541
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 6: I've got the offensive line in brackets, and I'm kind

542
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 6: of like, oh, well, you know, Earl Bostik, he's been fine.

543
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 5: Alex Linsterm I think has been fine. TJ.

544
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 6: Bass I put a little dot by his name. Brock

545
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 6: Matt Farnioc I think has done okay. I think it

546
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 6: could be better.

547
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 5: Tuma.

548
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Speaker 6: I don't even know that he'll make the roster at

549
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 6: this point because he's dealing with the knee injury.

550
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 5: Alex Taylor Prilo. I think that's how you say his

551
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 5: last name for a guy who is seven feet tall.

552
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 6: You want to see some aggression out of him, and

553
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 6: it's it's not the Tyler Smith we know has been great.

554
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 5: Josh Ball.

555
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 6: I know you just brought up his stats, but even there,

556
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 6: I'm like, there could be some improvement as well.

557
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 5: And then you have awesome Richards who we've already talked about.

558
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 6: Terrence Steele, Matt Willsco and Tyron Smith kind of round

559
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 6: out that list. So I think that the good news

560
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 6: is is that there's still time to figure out who

561
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 6: your front five is going to be and then you

562
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 6: kind of just pray to the injury gods that you

563
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 6: stay away from that offensive line this season. I am

564
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 6: just saying. Jason Peters put out that he still wants

565
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 6: to play, so you might need to give Uncle Jason

566
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 6: a call maybe at some point.

567
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 4: Uncle.

568
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, it's it's the one position on here that

569
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 6: I really kind of am just like a little nervous

570
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 6: so well, and it only because we saw how much

571
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 6: not having continuity on the offensive line really impacted this

572
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 6: team last year. They went from being really strong Super

573
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 6: Bowl contenders. Nothing can really stop them. The offense is

574
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 6: still in a work in progress with the defense is strong,

575
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,199
Speaker 6: and then the minute the offensive line got banged up,

576
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 6: the defense was having to work double time and as

577
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 6: a result, the balance was off.

578
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 5: So it is concerning, But like I.

579
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 6: Said, they still have two weeks before the season starts

580
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 6: to kind of get it worked out, and we'll kind

581
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 6: of have a better idea coming up later next week

582
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 6: with the big cut coming up.

583
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 4: So I'm glad you brought up Jason Peters because ed

584
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,439
Speaker 4: from El Paso, which is close to my hometown. He

585
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 4: made sure to mention that Hello, ed from al Paso.

586
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 4: He said, hello, ladies, what is the possibility of the

587
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 4: team bringing back Jason Peters? So, Hayley, you you just

588
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 4: you run the same wavelength with the ed there and

589
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 4: we'd love to see it. Aisha, how would you feel

590
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 4: about Uncle Jason returning to this roster if that's a possibility.

591
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 9: I mean, I don't I'm not sure that what what

592
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 9: the West Coast system calls for, like getting down space,

593
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 9: getting to the second level. I don't know if that's

594
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 9: something he will be up for.

595
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 7: Wanted to be doing like the you know what I'm saying,

596
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 7: like it's some work.

597
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 5: It's some work, Yes, it's.

598
00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 7: You have to have guys in the run.

599
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 9: Specifically, Do I think he could deal with some of

600
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 9: the past pro Yeah, I think he could deal with that.

601
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 9: But as far as how active this offense seems like

602
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 9: it's gonna be, especially out in space.

603
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 7: I don't know if Uncle's gonna want to come back

604
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 7: and be doing all that running. So we'll see.

605
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 5: We'll see.

606
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 2: In that regard.

607
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 9: I love that you mentioned Hoffman because we're talking about

608
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 9: second year jumps.

609
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 7: I think, I mean, this is a gentleman. I didn't

610
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 7: even know until they put him out on the field

611
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 7: day in my life.

612
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:33,479
Speaker 6: It's so funny because like my first like the and

613
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 6: this is please take this at face value and nothing more.

614
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 6: But like all I think about with brock Hoffman, there

615
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 6: is a morning at training camp before we were getting

616
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 6: ready to do the podcast, and there's like a man

617
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 6: walking out on the field like shirtless, no shoes, iblack

618
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 6: like all over his face, and I can't remember who

619
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 6: I was with, but I'm like.

620
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 5: Who the hell is that out there? Like what are

621
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 5: we doing?

622
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 6: And you come closer and it's freaking Brockoffman, and so

623
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 6: like now I have like this this warrior image in

624
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 6: my head of him, and then you see how chirpy

625
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 6: he is at practice, how physically he is it practice.

626
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 6: So anytime someone says brock coffin, that's all I think,

627
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 6: it's like the EyeBlack on.

628
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 8: Like.

629
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 4: Literally like an old school w W like that's it.

630
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 2: I have the head and walking around like we have

631
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 2: to tell.

632
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 9: Him that Caine Kane the way you were describing it,

633
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 9: but Matt Farniac just be.

634
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 2: Walking out with intro music. Yeah, no, I think you

635
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 2: would like this. I'm not gonna lie.

636
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 9: Honestly, A lot of him probably like wrestling, so we

637
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 9: it might be a thing.

638
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 7: It might like who who would you walk out as?

639
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 7: Maybe that's something the media team can do.

640
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, baby, but I couldn't be a part of that

641
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 6: because I couldn't tell you anything about Look.

642
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 7: Oh it was my jam.

643
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 2: I grew up with a brother.

644
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 4: Of course, I was forced to like wrestling, and I

645
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 4: was forced to be like the other wrestler, and he

646
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 4: was like obsessed with Seawn Michaels. My brother had like

647
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 4: the whole gear. If I didn't press the music at

648
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 4: the right time, he's like start over, Like.

649
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 7: All right, Jimmy, chill more than I wanted.

650
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 4: All about all about it, versatility. I don't know, guys,

651
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 4: look anyways, but off topic, back to that.

652
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, but back to brock hoff Hoffman not.

653
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 2: A wrestler, He's a football player.

654
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 9: Yes, so they switched I think last was it last

655
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 9: game they switched Hoffman to uh center, I know it

656
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 9: was it guard. I think Hoffman was playing guard and

657
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 9: they had Varniac playing center. It wasn't that the way

658
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 9: around particles. I don't want to get it mixed up.

659
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 9: It's gonna mess up my point. But I do believe

660
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 9: that brock Hoffman looked better at center. I felt like

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Speaker 9: I think he gets off the ball a little bit

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Speaker 9: faster than Matt Farniac at that center position. So that

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Speaker 9: that was something I wanted to say, because I know

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Speaker 9: they switched them at.

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Speaker 7: Some point in time. I don't know if it was

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Speaker 7: this game, but they did.

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Speaker 9: They switched them this game, I believe, and brock Hoffman

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Speaker 9: there were some issues there, especially with the interior. So

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Speaker 9: to your point, Hayley, I remember you just said, you

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Speaker 9: said Matt Farnier has meant and I'm like, I think

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Speaker 9: he was better when he.

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Speaker 7: Was, you know, at left guard.

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Speaker 9: I think so too, and has looked better at center.

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Speaker 9: So that was just something I wanted to mention. And

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Speaker 9: I wouldn't be mad if Brockman, if Brockman Brockman LORDI,

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Speaker 9: but if Hoffman.

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Speaker 7: Was your backup center. I like kind of what I've

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Speaker 7: seen from him there to this point.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's kind of what the situation has been,

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Speaker 4: because when I was seeing him at practice training camp,

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Speaker 4: he was taking those center snaps behind the oddish I

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Speaker 4: know him and Tyler Beyotish, Yeah, really well together. So

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Speaker 4: I think that's more what they're going for at this point.

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Speaker 2: I think they're just kind of trying to shuffle things.

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Speaker 5: To see that's how they got him.

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Speaker 6: On the depth chart too, is listed as a left

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Speaker 6: kind of this is to be fair, this is against.

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Speaker 5: Jackson Jacksonville, thank you. I don't know what, like the

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Speaker 5: blue and green.

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Speaker 6: Brain, It's okay, Yeah, they do have it on the

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Speaker 6: depth chart here as Farniac on the left guard and

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Speaker 4: So well, you know, what I think is very interesting

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Speaker 4: love to see Jason Peters back. I think it takes

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Speaker 4: off stress out of a lot of aspects because when

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Speaker 4: So if you can take you know, the run blocking

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Speaker 4: But get a big guy back in there that you

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Speaker 2: That was really his deal, plug and chug.

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Speaker 4: And then you're talking about a really young group. Who

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Speaker 4: into running backs, Haley. I know you wanted to touch

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Speaker 4: base on this one during the last segment, but we'll

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Speaker 4: carry it over to this one running backs Duce Vaughan look.

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Speaker 4: Mike McCarthy was asked, is Duce going to play this week?

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Speaker 4: Is it time to sit him out? And he said,

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Speaker 2: However, sit him out. I don't want to see him

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Speaker 2: until Week one against the Giants. I'm good.

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Speaker 5: I have an unpopular opinion.

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Speaker 2: I think hot take.

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Speaker 6: I don't what's not even a hot take? I just

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Speaker 6: I really don't think Deuce is going to be running

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Speaker 6: back too. And it's not a dig on him at all.

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Speaker 6: I think he's talented, I think he's special, and I

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Speaker 6: this Cowboys offense. But there is something to be said

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Speaker 6: about size, and I know that we talk about it

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Speaker 6: a lot. I know that he hears it all the time,

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Speaker 6: and I am so proud of what he's been able

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Speaker 5: You know, he's proved the haters wrong. At the same time,

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Speaker 5: think about.

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Speaker 6: You know, guys like let's take Ezekiel Elliott for example,

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Speaker 6: who started off explosive runner for his career, thousand yards,

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Speaker 6: thousand yards, thousand yards. He was crushing it, and then

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Speaker 5: Right, It's like my Jeep compass right now. Like when

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Speaker 5: I first got her, she was great.

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Speaker 6: She was racking up the mileage, we were driving cross country,

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Speaker 6: we were doing everything. And now we're in year ten

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Speaker 6: And I think that that is expedited when your frame

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Speaker 6: isn't as big, and I worry that it's just he's

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Speaker 6: one tough tackle away, one Aaron Donald pancake away from struggling.

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Speaker 5: And so that's not to say I don't want him

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Speaker 5: to make this roster. I really do. I think he's fantastic.

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Speaker 6: I think he's got a great skill set that the

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Speaker 6: Cowboys will use. That being said, I want someone else

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Speaker 6: as the running back too. I want to be able

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Speaker 6: to save Deuce and use him as you use him

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Speaker 6: in special packages. I love that the opposing defensive line

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Speaker 6: has a hard time seeing him. I just don't know

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Speaker 6: if I'm there in terms of signing off on it

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Speaker 6: being Tony Pollard and Douce.

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Speaker 4: Vaughan my take on this, and I agree with you.

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Speaker 4: I think that's a great take. I personally, I have

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Speaker 4: had my eyes on Racodowdell this entire OT's in mini camp.

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Speaker 4: I think he's been so impressive. And Mike McCarthy at

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Speaker 4: the nail on the head saying, you're seeing a healthy

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Speaker 4: Rico Dawdle, and that's exactly what you're seeing. I wonder

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Speaker 4: if there is a world where it's not just a

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Speaker 4: one two punch anymore, it's a one two three, maybe

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Speaker 4: a one two and a half punch, because the thing

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Speaker 4: about Rico is, you know he's healthy and he's doing great. However,

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Speaker 4: if you can extend all of the lifespan within these

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Speaker 4: athletes career and then even post football, I wonder if

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Speaker 4: there's a way where, yes, you have Tony Pollard taking

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Speaker 4: those snaps and then you have Rico Dawdell or Malik

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Speaker 4: Davis at that point, and then you have a third guy,

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Speaker 4: whether that be duce Vaughan Hunter Lipke. There's options here

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Speaker 4: where you can go with I. It depends if you

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Speaker 4: want to add a five back.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it depends if.

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Speaker 2: You want to add a full back.

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Speaker 4: More than likely, though I'm on the Ducevan train of

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Speaker 4: keeping him on the roster. Because like I've been talking two,

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Speaker 4: a backup for that punt returner position for if something

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Speaker 4: were to ever happen to Cavante Turp and you need

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Speaker 4: that backup guy. Or you can even start to interchange

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Speaker 4: a little bit. You can get a little creative. They

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Speaker 4: want to have Cavante a little more integrated into the offense.

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Speaker 4: That takes the pressure off of him to not be

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Speaker 4: taken so many hits with those punt returns. You have

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Speaker 4: Deuce that can take a little bit more, especially if

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Speaker 4: he's not taking as many of those running.

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Speaker 2: Back reps as well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so welcome to my Multiverse of Madness running Back Edition,

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Speaker 4: because this is something I have been sitting on of

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Speaker 4: I'm adamant that you take three. You take Tony Pollard. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: I'm still convinced that Rico Dawdle is the guy. And

877
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 4: then you have ducev On as kind of leverage backup

878
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 4: if everything happens to Rico, and then he also plays

879
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 4: a part in the special team's asset as well.

880
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 6: The only way I change my mind on that, and

881
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 6: it all just kind of depends on Rojo, and I

882
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 6: think I hope that.

883
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 5: We get an opportunity to see him at practice this week.

884
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 6: I've really been trying to go out of my way

885
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 6: to talk to him a little bit more because you

886
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 6: could almost feel like he's struuggling a little bit in

887
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 6: this locker room. You can tell that, you know, he

888
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 6: maybe just doesn't mesh with some of the players. I

889
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 6: think he tries really hard to be involved, and then

890
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 6: you know, you had that groin injury, and then you

891
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 6: get sloped with the suspension, and so it's just a lot.

892
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 5: To handle at one point.

893
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 6: And on top of that, he can't even practice to

894
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 6: kind of, you know, clear his name for lack of

895
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 6: better terms. So I love that Mike McCarthy is challenging

896
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 6: him to be back at practice this week because I

897
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 6: think Rojo needs that. I think he needs the opportunity.

898
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 6: And we saw him at camp. The times that he

899
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 6: did get in, he was effective. I didn't see a

900
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 6: lot from him in terms of pass protection, but as

901
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 6: far as breaking open, being a little bit slippery of

902
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 6: a running back, finding the gaps and getting through, I

903
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 6: think he's extinctual in that way. And I think when

904
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 6: the Cowboys signed him in the off season, that was

905
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,919
Speaker 6: the intention, and so I don't think that they've lost

906
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 6: sight of what Rojo can bring to the table.

907
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 5: But it's hard when.

908
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 6: You've got a five to six running back or right

909
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 6: five six rookie running back out running you and you

910
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 6: can't even practice.

911
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 5: So big week for sure for Rojo.

912
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 6: I'd like to see just how well he can compete

913
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 6: in that too, because he if he can get on

914
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 6: the field, he's also a special teams factress well, I

915
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 6: don't think in terms of returning, but at the very

916
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 6: least being on punt coverage, on kickoff coverage, all that.

917
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 5: So big week for him.

918
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 9: Yeah. I like what I've seen from Rico Dado as well.

919
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 9: He to your point about pass pro. He threw his

920
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 9: body around a lot in this past game, just showing

921
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 9: the willingness to to do that.

922
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 7: To sacrifice his body for his quarterback.

923
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 2: I thought that was important.

924
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 9: I'm really hoping that this weekend he can put it

925
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 9: all together, you know, because I feel like, you know,

926
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 9: the the weird fumble last last game that may not

927
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,959
Speaker 9: have been his fault, but still just happened that way.

928
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 9: And then uh, the miss block, yeah, the miss block

929
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 9: on the punt is he Yeah? And then you're terrified. Yeah,

930
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 9: because then you're terrified because we haven't talked about Brian

931
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 9: Anger that much. But he's a weapon in this for

932
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 9: this team. And also when you're there's a lot of

933
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 9: trust that goes into being, you know, on being a

934
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 9: protector there. So I'm looking for him to possibly put

935
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,919
Speaker 9: it together all this this game. But you did see

936
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 9: some of the vision. You saw some of the bursts,

937
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 9: some of his shiftiness. Also to we saw that he

938
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 9: runs through his pads. You know what I'm saying, Like

939
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 9: he really is not afraid of contact, and that's something

940
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 9: that we've talked about. And in regard to duce Von,

941
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 9: I agree with you guys that you got.

942
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 7: To find a way to get him on the field.

943
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 9: I think it'll be different packages and how they decide

944
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 9: to use him or whatever the case may be. But

945
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 9: I don't I will say that I'm not afraid of

946
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 9: his armor though I think that he has if you

947
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 9: if you look at how he works and how much

948
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 9: he puts into his body, kind of similar to how

949
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 9: Micah described it as this past offseason, is like he's callous.

950
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 7: Now he's done that.

951
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 9: If you look at how much he's put into douce

952
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 9: van is put into his body to protect himself for

953
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 9: his size. I'm not as worried about him getting injured

954
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 9: in that fashion. But I totally get what you're saying

955
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 9: about the pass pro because that's especially here huge.

956
00:42:59,280 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 5: It's huge.

957
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 9: He's not afraid to throw his body. But to your point,

958
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 9: you don't want that to take away from the player.

959
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 9: So whoever is the running back to if it which

960
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 9: I do think it is gonna be Rico Daddle, you

961
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 9: definitely could see him in a different capacity, you know,

962
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 9: really pass you know, past blocking a lot more, because

963
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 9: that's not something that Duce Bond is.

964
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 7: Going to be really doing like that.

965
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and not that he's not capable.

966
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think that's my point too, like just

967
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 6: just I don't want him just because.

968
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 7: To be doing Yeah.

969
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 6: I want him to be effective and continue to have

970
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 6: this this long career and play.

971
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 5: How he's playing.

972
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 6: But I don't want that to be limited because he

973
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 6: gets crying.

974
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 5: I've seen the day.

975
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 9: And dudes and and and don't don't get twisted. Guys

976
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 9: are going to be looking for him. Yeah, guys are

977
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 9: going to be looking for because he's it's almost.

978
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 7: Annoying how fast he is.

979
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 9: It is, and when guys get the opportunity to get

980
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 9: their hands on him, you best believe they're gonna they're

981
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 9: gonna try to make them make him remember him. So

982
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 9: you you want to definitely be I'm not saying be

983
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 9: careful with the player, but definitely be cognizant of that stuff, because, yeah,

984
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 9: people don't.

985
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 2: Be hund for him of how they use him.

986
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 4: Real quick, Mike McCarthy mentioned Rico Dowdell. Let's go back

987
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 4: to Rico Dowdell real quick. He said, I love his

988
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 4: running style. He runs angry, he has pass protection with

989
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 4: a lot of urgency. He sticks his nose in there.

990
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:18,720
Speaker 2: He also talked about.

991
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 4: The non block with the punt pro and he said

992
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 4: the pump pro has not been.

993
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 2: An issue for Rico.

994
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 4: He said, I really don't see this being a reoccurring thing.

995
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 2: It hasn't been an issue. He's not worried about it.

996
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 4: So again, what I like about Rico is he had

997
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 4: the fumble the first week on the one yard line.

998
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 4: I talked him right after the game, It's like, how

999
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 4: are you feeling. He's like, I could have done without

1000
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 4: that fumble, and I said, go get a touchdown.

1001
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 2: Next week.

1002
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 4: So I'm very excited to see him this week, to

1003
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 4: go up to him say, hey, you got your touchdown,

1004
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:47,479
Speaker 4: what's next.

1005
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,959
Speaker 2: You're gonna get two touchdowns the next time you play.

1006
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 4: So what I like about him is he has that fight.

1007
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 4: He has that willingness to say, look, I messed up.

1008
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 4: It's on me, but I'm gonna do better. And to me,

1009
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 4: that's a coachable guy that you want in your locker room.

1010
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 2: This is four years coming for him.

1011
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 4: He knows this is the biggest opportunity they had him

1012
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 4: to have this this time to shine really so break o'dowdell.

1013
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 4: I've gotten to know him a lot during this off season,

1014
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 4: and I'm really rooting for a complete game for him.

1015
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 4: Like you said earlier, course, real quick, let's touch on

1016
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 4: Mozzie Smith. A lot of criticism coming out for Mazzie Smith.

1017
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 4: Something that I like that McCarthy mentioned yesterday was he's

1018
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 4: a rookie. Two guys, he's a first round draft pick,

1019
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 4: but he's a rookie. Two rookies need work, They need

1020
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 4: polishing up essentially. You know, Mike McCarthy didn't say have

1021
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 4: that grace, but he just said, here's a reminder he's

1022
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 4: also a rookie, so is the criticism.

1023
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 2: I mean, we we know.

1024
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 4: What the Dallas Cabby is going to be blown up

1025
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 4: because it's you know, it's Dallas Cowboys. But where does

1026
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:50,959
Speaker 4: where does Mozzie Smith need the work?

1027
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 2: And have you seen progression? Asha? And then I'll go

1028
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:53,720
Speaker 2: to Haley.

1029
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 9: Yeah, well I kind of want us to know how

1030
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 9: you felt about it first.

1031
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 7: I know that I don't know.

1032
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:00,919
Speaker 9: Yeah, I kind of wants you to because you've seen

1033
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 9: him up close in persons. Yeah.

1034
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 5: I love Mazzi, y'all, and I have a hard time.

1035
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 6: Like I mentioned, I have a really unique opportunity to

1036
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 6: get to know a lot of these rookies a lot

1037
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 6: better than some of the older guys, mostly because I

1038
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 6: forced them to get to know me. But Mazzie in particular,

1039
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 6: I have such a good relationship with and so a lot.

1040
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 6: Even in the game on Saturday, I had to take

1041
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 6: my rose colored glasses off for a minute and evaluate

1042
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 6: who he is as the player and you know, and

1043
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 6: not say like no, like it's Mazzie, It's okay. The

1044
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 6: reality is is this is a guy who has never

1045
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 6: had to worry about the fundamentals of football because he's

1046
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 6: always been bigger, better, faster, stronger than everybody he has faced.

1047
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 6: He's been that way since he was little and first

1048
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 6: started playing football. It was the same at Michigan where

1049
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 6: he was picking up equipment because the weights weren't heavy

1050
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:46,479
Speaker 6: enough for him to.

1051
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 5: Work out with.

1052
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 6: And now you're in a situation where your coach is

1053
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 6: the same size as you. You know, you're facing guys

1054
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 6: like Jonathan Hankins who are trying to help you get

1055
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 6: stronger and get better, and that's the standard that you're

1056
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 6: trying to get to. And so I love Mike McCarthy

1057
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 6: saying he's a first round draft pick. They're babies, guys

1058
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 6: like and I know that there is levels to being

1059
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 6: an NFL football player, and I know that when you

1060
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 6: get drafted and when you decide to go this path,

1061
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 6: that your expectations are so much greater than other people.

1062
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 5: But Mazzi is what twenty one maybe twenty two? I mean, like,

1063
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 5: what were.

1064
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,919
Speaker 6: You guys doing when you were twenty one and twenty two?

1065
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,240
Speaker 6: So I just want to continue to emphasize that.

1066
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 2: He was playing in two thousand and one.

1067
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're young, They're they're very young.

1068
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 6: What I've loved about Mazzi though, is every time after

1069
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 6: the game I make it a point to go and

1070
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 6: talk to him and just check in, how are you doing,

1071
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 6: how you're doing, how you're doing, And every single time

1072
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 6: he's very similar to Demo, where he's very locked in,

1073
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 6: very focused, very big on saying like yeah, I'm good,

1074
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 6: I'm good, I'm good. But the i'm good has translated

1075
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 6: to practice. Mazzi is one of the first guys who

1076
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 6: was always out on the practice field, working one on

1077
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 6: one with Coach Dirty, working one on one with Coach Floyd,

1078
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 6: working one on one with guys like Mikah Parsons and

1079
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 6: Jonathan Hankins, trying to get there. And I've said this

1080
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 6: from the very beginning of preseason. Preseason is an extension

1081
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 6: of training camp. These games do not matter because they

1082
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 6: are not real games. They don't go on the schedule

1083
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 6: as far as your record goes, because it's practice.

1084
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 5: It's practice.

1085
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 6: So it's okay in the sense to see Mazzi make

1086
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 6: mistakes because you want him to make the mistakes in

1087
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 6: the preseason games.

1088
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 5: You don't want him to make it against the Giants.

1089
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 6: So I do think he has a long way to

1090
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 6: go in terms of tidying up the fundamentals. But the

1091
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 6: good news is he's working on that and he's getting there.

1092
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Speaker 6: And we have to remember that he is twenty two

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Speaker 6: years old. It's going to take him a minute to

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Speaker 6: get adjusted. Sometimes these guys come in the league and

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Speaker 6: they're guys like Garrett Wilson or Sauce Gardner, who are

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Speaker 6: they get it right away?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 5: Mozzi may need a little bit more time, and that's okay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 9: I mean it's interesting because I think I said last week,

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Speaker 9: he's a lot more raw than what I think I

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Speaker 9: even knew he was. And what I mean by that

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Speaker 9: is the fact that he has he's getting coaching that

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Speaker 9: maybe he wasn't getting before. He's also doing things that

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Speaker 9: are different than what he was doing before. His stance

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Speaker 9: has changed, so the timing off the ball is like

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Speaker 9: people are really concerned with that. I think he's also

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Speaker 9: in his head a bit because he's learning technique and

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Speaker 9: he's learned and if you ask, even as Jonathan Hakens

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Speaker 9: last year, he told me he didn't start to get

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Speaker 9: it and just know it until he had been in

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Speaker 9: for several years. The it's actually disappointing to me to

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Speaker 9: see how people are reacting to Mazie because I think

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Speaker 9: that maybe they don't know exactly what they're looking they're

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Speaker 9: looking at as far as that, So yeah, I it

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Speaker 9: reminds me of Sam Williams in a sense where it's

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Speaker 9: like he came in, he had to learn a lot

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Speaker 9: more about football, and now we see that ascension. So

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Speaker 9: I'm being very patient with the player and I think

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Speaker 9: we'll see improvements also to this guy's playing a lot

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Speaker 9: of reps yep, almost full games. He's not going to

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Speaker 9: be doing that in games, so yeah, I'm looking to

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Speaker 9: see how he bounces back.

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Speaker 7: He'll be all right.

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Speaker 4: Something else I wanted to mention is he's not playing

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Speaker 4: with Jonathan Hankins next to him, so I think you're

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Speaker 4: nose area of your D line when you have Jonathan

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Speaker 4: Hankins and Mozzie Smith. Very similar to you know, a

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Speaker 4: Tyler Smith Jason Peter situation of having that veteran presence

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Speaker 4: right next to you in the real game situation to

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Speaker 4: say hey, do this next time. It's very different in

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Speaker 4: practice than it is on the field. So there's that.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna wrap up our show for today. We kept

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