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Speaker 2: It's from episode fifteen fifty nine, The Black Woman Shared

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Speaker 2: Universe Karen's Jamaica trip. Yes, McCamy says, welcome back, Karen.

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Speaker 2: I'm so late on this, but I love this the episode,

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Speaker 2: We got some comments. Jay Full says, I think there's

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Speaker 2: And I don't know that we should put sexual predation

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Speaker 2: says totally agree with that education on rape culture misogyny

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what the video says, what they say,

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Speaker 2: I was in fear of my life. I killed him

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Speaker 2: we've accepted that in society as well. If you're scared,

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Speaker 2: well I feel like a lot of this, Like I

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Speaker 2: Because what do you mean you didn't know you could

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Speaker 2: As a black woman works in Hollywood, I think it's awful,

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Speaker 2: Like it's not that you're being a negative Nancy as

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Speaker 2: unchecked power. There's no balances to it, there's no governing bodies,

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Speaker 2: there's nothing to say, Hey, just because you're powerful, doesn't

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Speaker 2: mean shit. If Robin penn Wright is not a lead

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Speaker 2: Then and then we go, oh my god, we got

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Speaker 2: because it will happen. We can quietly get this motherfucker

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Speaker 2: the fuck about the paint. We keep our shit going

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Speaker 4: We don't have off a hole and it don't stop

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Speaker 4: like said production, Like, we don't have to derail and

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Speaker 2: Right, we don't need to hold like we don't need

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Speaker 2: we can't get rid of Luis k because then what

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Speaker 2: about his other shows that he produces. Well, that's just

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Speaker 2: too fucking bad. Like at some point you're gonna we

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Speaker 2: into Harvey Weinstein's contract that he can fucking get accused

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Speaker 2: system of abuse in a place to keep him at

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Speaker 2: the top no matter what happens. That's in writing they

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Speaker 2: also have it where if you sully your company's interpretation,

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Speaker 2: that's a neverless way to put it, but you can

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Speaker 2: get fired. Who gets to decide what Sully in a

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Speaker 2: reputation is because they use it against his accusers and

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Speaker 2: not him. So, like I said, it's a system that

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Speaker 2: two men. That's like, they can literally get rid of

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Speaker 2: all the men at the top of Hollywood that are

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Speaker 2: they would replace They could replace them with another person

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Speaker 2: that could be just as abusive, and we go right

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Speaker 2: lot of people are like, Na, the game has changed,

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Speaker 2: it's forever. I was talking to my dad on Thanksgiving

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Speaker 2: I think it's changed. I think it's gonna be better.

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Speaker 2: I said, I feel you and I wish I could

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Speaker 2: I don't get off on quote unquote being right about

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Speaker 2: We have actually they an elite for it that we

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Speaker 2: was like, I have to push this, dude, because at

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Speaker 2: least he'll listen, at least he'll like hear us out,

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Speaker 2: at least he'll give us a platform. At least he'll

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Speaker 2: the White House. It's really a fruitless endeavor at this point, Right,

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Speaker 2: we have to pick our time. And you know, I

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Speaker 2: and that's when people started listening, and this would have

431
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 2: never happened when it was Bill Cosey. He made sure

432
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,640
Speaker 2: to have powerless women with no names. Harvey Weinstein's biggest

433
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 2: quote unquote mistake was actually doing this to women with agency,

434
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,640
Speaker 2: women that went on to become somebody, women that didn't

435
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 2: want to Not all those women sign those nbas and shit,

436
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,920
Speaker 2: not all those women need that money. So then eventually

437
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,639
Speaker 2: it just piled up on them. And then women just

438
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 2: start talking about the harassment everywhere. You got people coming

439
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 2: out from Twitter, uh, meetups, from social media, like people

440
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 2: are coming out to be like, these are these inappropriate

441
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 2: things that happen to me? Well, I think as long

442
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,639
Speaker 2: as we keep the foot on the gas right now,

443
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 2: you'll will. They'll continue to get abusive men about the

444
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 2: paint for a little bit. But I think all these men,

445
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 2: sadly will be back.

446
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 3: Yes they will.

447
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 2: I think all of them will be back. I don't

448
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 2: think maybe Weinstein will be quote unquote gone. I think

449
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,640
Speaker 2: they'll all be back, especially the actors will be back.

450
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 2: I think, Uh, the the impetus to get rid of

451
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 2: these abusive people will stop at some point and it'll

452
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:51,199
Speaker 2: turn back to the looking at the sexual abuse victims

453
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 2: and survivors and say, hey, what do you want me

454
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,400
Speaker 2: to do? It's just too much. I mean, damn imsolos

455
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 2: to not watch anything because it's gonna because once I

456
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 2: already saw people start turning, once it started being some

457
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 2: of their phase, like once it was our Frankin, it

458
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 2: was a totally different ball game. You know, people as

459
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 2: much shit as people talk about Leana Dunne, a lot

460
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 2: of people be sounded like Lena Dunnall when it's someone

461
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 2: they like getting the cue come, you know, And I'm not,

462
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 2: like I said, this is not to say believe women

463
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 2: doesn't mean don't question anything they say. It's the truth

464
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 2: and that's the end. Like believe women means like believe

465
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 2: them the same way you believe the motherfucker's like, hey,

466
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 2: you know what, it's gonna rain outside. Okay, cool, well,

467
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 2: let me put on a coat just in case. Let

468
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 2: me get an umbrella just a case, let me check

469
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 2: the weather app you know, because that's what happens in

470
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 2: a lot of these cases. We just go bitch you

471
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 2: line and walk away. But if you believe women, like

472
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 2: with the ol Frankin case, you know, people didn't want

473
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 2: to believe that woman, even though they had picture evidence.

474
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 2: It was just a one off. She forgave them forget it.

475
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 2: Three four more women come out. Now it's like, hmm,

476
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 2: maybe him too, you know what I'm saying. So I

477
00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 2: feel like what that impetus of it's starting to get

478
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 2: everybody good and bad people I like people I don't like.

479
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 2: I think that's what's gonna kill it because I think

480
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 2: people are They're not really committed, they're not really principal.

481
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,159
Speaker 2: People pick their spots, and if it starts happening with

482
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 2: somebody they like, then it's kind of like, man, I

483
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 2: can't I can't do this no more. So that's what

484
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 2: I worry about, you know. Uh. But thank you for

485
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 2: writing and Caine, I'm sorry, did you jas's want to add?

486
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 2: I didn't mean to cut you off.

487
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 3: I completely understand. I completely agree with Then.

488
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 4: It's one of those things because of the structure of

489
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 4: our system, in the way it is designed, Like you said,

490
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 4: this is only gonna go but so far than after while,

491
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 4: people gonna get tired. It's quote unquote not gonna be

492
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 4: the trend. It's not gonna be just popping in the street.

493
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 4: You know, it's gonna be one of those things. It's

494
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 4: gonna be quote unquote a wave you know on social media,

495
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:49,880
Speaker 4: and now all of a sudden it's gonna be back

496
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,479
Speaker 4: to you bitches is lying again, you know, Like that's

497
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 4: what it always turns back down to at the end

498
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 4: of the day, because as long as you have a

499
00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 4: system where men fuck up and other men and protect

500
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 4: these men, you're gonna always have this problem. And it's

501
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 4: men protecting these rapists and sexual assaulters.

502
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 3: And abusers that will never and have never abused.

503
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 4: A woman to day in their lives. But you're standing

504
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 4: on the front line taking bullets for somebody that has

505
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 4: done something to a woman, and you're part of the problem.

506
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 3: When you jump in talk about not on men, when.

507
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 4: You jump in talk about but this one time, my buddy,

508
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 4: I don't want to hear that shit, because you know what,

509
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 4: when people talking about the cops killing people, y'all niggas

510
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 4: don't give a fuck.

511
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 3: Well there's one cop. I don't give a fuck about

512
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 3: that one cop. Okay, what's the difference? What is the difference?

513
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 4: And you'll be talking about the good cops. Why don't

514
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 4: the good cops stand up it's one of those things.

515
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 4: But why don't the good men stand up? Because a

516
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 4: lot of times your niggas pick and choose when y'all

517
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 4: speak out, Because when stuff be happening, and people put

518
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 4: stuff on social.

519
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 3: Media all the time, it's crickets, crickets, crickets, crickets, and

520
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, I don't say nothing. Well

521
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 3: why don't you know them to say nothing? Nigga? Like like,

522
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,640
Speaker 3: these are the questions I asked. I normally keep quiet.

523
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 3: Well why why why the times you speak out? That's

524
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 3: the problem I have?

525
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 5: Why?

526
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 3: Right?

527
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 2: Well, I just find it interesting because you know, I

528
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 2: don't even say just men defending it. It is people correct,

529
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 2: you know, women break ranks all the time on this shit.

530
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's a sickness within our society, within

531
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 2: our culture. Man, we can't. I don't know. Sometimes it

532
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,120
Speaker 2: just feels so hopeless because it's like, like I said,

533
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 2: get it in why you can't Now it's not for

534
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 2: me to say, but it's definitely the temperament I think

535
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 2: of humanity is to go back to not doing anything right.

536
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 2: So just if you you know, if that's why it

537
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 2: looks like a deluge or stuff, because you're talking about

538
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 2: decades and decades and decades of women that stayed silent

539
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 2: coming out right now, it's it's if you think this

540
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 2: is the this is the tip of the iceberg. Yes, sir,

541
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 2: there's still women that you know won't come out. There's

542
00:26:53,960 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 2: still women that you know have to make these choices,

543
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 2: you know. And and I say this as a black person,

544
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 2: it's like when you have white friends. Your white friend

545
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 2: might say something racist, but you still feel like they're

546
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 2: your friend, and maybe you take 'em to the side

547
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 2: and you educate them and say, hey, don't do that

548
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 2: right now, if that's my friend. Okay, So like twenty

549
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 2: years later, it's it's the trend is in we telling

550
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,719
Speaker 2: that every time a white person did some bullshit to us,

551
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 2: we out here in the streets yelling at people and

552
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 2: and let's say white people are losing their jobs over it. Right,

553
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 2: I probably wouldn't tell on that friend, cause that's a

554
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 2: story for me and him, like, yep, you fucked up,

555
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 2: we talked about it. I'm good on it. I actually

556
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 2: am not gonna bring it back up and get you

557
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 2: fired today twenty years later. Well, with sexual assault and

558
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 2: stuff as common as it is, sexual harassment and proprieties

559
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 2: things like this. There's women all over the world quote

560
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 2: unquote doing people a favor quote unquote of being like

561
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 2: I'm just not gonna tell cause so and so mighty

562
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 2: did that shit. But he was twenty one and we

563
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 2: were drunk or did this or that. You know, later on,

564
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 2: I saw him kind of like grow up and he

565
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 2: apologized and so were good. But it doesn't mean it

566
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 2: didn't happen, right, It doesn't mean that she couldn't just

567
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 2: come up right now and be like, you know, Leonardo

568
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 2: DiCaprio did so and so to me or something like.

569
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 2: There's probably a thousand women with stories that just aren't

570
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 2: coming out on certain people because I feel like that's

571
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 2: how toxic it is and how the environment is so yeah,

572
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 2: I and in a way it's because less women are

573
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 2: coming out about just everybody, because I really do feel

574
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 2: like there'd be a story on everybody. In a way,

575
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 2: it's almost doing men a favor, right, because this will

576
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 2: eventually end up exhausting people and they'll be like, I

577
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 2: don't care anymore. But if they did, everybody, you know,

578
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 2: like aired out everybody right now, like the environment, like

579
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 2: maybe something would be done maybe people would make systemic

580
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 2: changes rather than just get rid of one guy, right.

581
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 4: Because that overall doesn't change anything. It doesn't change the system.

582
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 4: Like you said, you just kind of just knocking a

583
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 4: peg out and putting another piece there. But it doesn't

584
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 4: guarantee that that piece is just as good or better.

585
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 4: You hope it is, but you can't guarantee.

586
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 2: That because checks or bounces, no background checks, no nothing.

587
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 4: Nobody seld accountable, nobody's held responsible.

588
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 2: And it's the first time we actually listen to just accusations.

589
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 2: Like normally it's like did you go to court? Did

590
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 2: you did he get found guilty? Because we we have

591
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 2: been operating under this idea of like, well if they

592
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 2: weren't found guilty of sexual assault, then I don't know

593
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 2: what to tell you.

594
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 4: Right, you know, only do it for this, you know,

595
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 4: like I said, you said it before. It's a lot

596
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 4: of cops that got off, but.

597
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 3: Niggas believe they're guilty.

598
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 2: They don't go not just counts people.

599
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 4: Yeah people and you know, yeah you did that ship

600
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 4: well that they went free, I don't give fuck they

601
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 4: did it. But when it comes to rape, you know,

602
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 4: people can go no, they.

603
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 3: Didn't get charged.

604
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 2: It was like, everybody need a reasonable doubt when they

605
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 2: comes to sexual assault, right beyond a reasonable doubt, Evie.

606
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 2: He says this new taking out the trash that is

607
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 2: so depressing but necessary. I think the issue with Gaby

608
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 2: Douglass is that although she has come out as a

609
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 2: victim herself, I think she has internalized the abuse and

610
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 2: blames herself and therefore projected it on her teammate. I

611
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 2: also believe, based on what someone bows tweet, that she

612
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 2: doesn't get along with the other girls and they may

613
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 2: have been tentioned there already because she could have just

614
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 2: said nothing instead of victim blaming. Yeah, that seems to

615
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 2: be a huge part, because even simone bows comments seem

616
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 2: to be like, I'm not surprised as you and it's like, hm,

617
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 2: the sounds like beef. I just hope she can learn

618
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 2: from this. She's young and still has a lot of

619
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 2: living to do. Yeah, I think she's only twenty two

620
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 2: or something. And as I said on the show at

621
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 2: the time, and I will reiterate because I feel like

622
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 2: on my Facebook page somebody was kind of bringing this up,

623
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 2: being like, well, how is this different than when member

624
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 2: when Danny was on the show, We were at the studio,

625
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: shouted out productions, and she was kind of talking about

626
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 2: her wife's side, her family, a black side of family,

627
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 2: and talking about it was something where like these police

628
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 2: were private, their private recordings with this therapist were put

629
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 2: into the public. She was a black therapist, and she

630
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 2: basically put out their innermost thoughts. And I was like,

631
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 2: you know, I personally am probably too militant to give

632
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 2: a fuck that she did this, But in a way,

633
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 2: it's actually bad for the system. Yes, it is, because

634
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 2: now one, you're gonna give police officers more reason to

635
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 2: lie even in their therapy sessions. Two, you know you're

636
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 2: probably gonna get fired. It definitely violates some sort of

637
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 2: client patient privilege. Like you know, it was like but

638
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 2: I understood she was trying to do it, you know,

639
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 2: in her own way, but it was kind of unprofessional.

640
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 5: You know, and Danny.

641
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 2: Danny was kind of like, yeah, she did the cops dirty,

642
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 2: and like I said, I could see it both ways.

643
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 2: And you know, so this person on my page is

644
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 2: kind of like, well, how is this How is it

645
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 2: any different when it was Gabby Douglas Because you said,

646
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 2: don't go in on Danny on her, you know, to

647
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 2: the because everybody was about to like one, we had

648
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 2: to wrap up, but two everybody was kind of wanting

649
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 2: to go in on Danny, and I was like, hey,

650
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 2: hold up now, like, don't go on Twitter and harass

651
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 2: her and shit like that. You know, like I don't

652
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 2: encourage any of that for our guests or the fans.

653
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 2: But the thing is, I am consistent. I said the

654
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 2: same thing about Gabby. I can't stop people from dragging her. Obviously,

655
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: I'm not fucking a powerful dictator of Twitter or whatever

656
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 2: like if, but I said, I thought it was harsh

657
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 2: and unfair when I saw people talking about her hair

658
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 2: and shit, the people that had stood up for her

659
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 2: in the past. It's like, but people's principals go out

660
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 2: the window when they're upset. It's one of the reasons

661
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 2: I try not to live in anger, because anger makes

662
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 2: you feel powerful, but it's not.

663
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 3: And it's temporary. It's temporary.

664
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're out of control, and that's not actually power.

665
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 2: But anyway, you know, like my I can only navigate

666
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 2: my way, and I would never come up to and

667
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 2: be like, well, bitch, you got to get your it

668
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 2: just ripped out like you did, you know, Like I

669
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 2: would never do some shit like that, Like I don't.

670
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 2: I just literally don't believe in that. The same way

671
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 2: that I when I talked to Danny when she was

672
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 2: when I we may have slightly disagreed, and I really

673
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 2: do mean slightly. I don't think because people try to

674
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 2: act like Danny was talking crazy and she wasn't. But yeah,

675
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 2: we may have slightly disagreed. But that's part of the

676
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 2: thing I'm talking about. What we gotta have love for

677
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 2: each other and grace for each other. And not just

678
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 2: because you like somebody or they your faith, but like

679
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,479
Speaker 2: even when you hate, even when you don't like somebody,

680
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 2: there has to be a little bit within you because

681
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 2: that's for me. I can't speak to y'all for me.

682
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 2: There's a little bit of grace within me for everybody correct,

683
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 2: because people are fucked up. Shit having some people, and

684
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,959
Speaker 2: that's normally what makes people fucked up. It doesn't mean

685
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 2: you excuse everything. It doesn't mean that you don't ever

686
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 2: say you're wrong about this. It doesn't mean that you

687
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: can't even be angry at somebody. But I try to

688
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 2: stay out of the like I'm a nag, call you,

689
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 2: I'm ana, get on your Twitter and harass you. I'm

690
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 2: you know, I try to stay out of that kind

691
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 2: of shit, because especially with shit like what Gaby said.

692
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 2: You don't know, I don't know what happened to Gabby,

693
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:11,879
Speaker 2: you know, And then it turns out like the next

694
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 2: day she put out I'm sure we'll talk around the show.

695
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 2: But she put out an article that said she had

696
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 2: been abused by that same doctor. Right, so now you

697
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 2: have some of this like it could be self hate.

698
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 2: She sounded religious. You know, there's a lot of that.

699
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 2: Good girls don't get sexually assaulted in religion in America.

700
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 2: It's sound, you know, it's it's just in it. And

701
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 2: it sounded like she didn't like her teammates. It just

702
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 2: sounded shady, you know what I mean. But I can't

703
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 2: stop people from dragging her. But I don't have to participate.

704
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: So I wouldn't talk bad about Gabby the same way

705
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 2: I wouldn't talk bad about Danny. You know, Like ultimately

706
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 2: we disagree, but I really think it would behoove a

707
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 2: lot more people to stop performing and trying to come

708
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 2: for people for the for the cheers of a crowd

709
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 2: or some retweets, and be more, be more. I don't know,

710
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 2: I feel like at least conscienties of it. If you're

711
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 2: conscientizines of it, and you decide that's your brand, that's

712
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 2: your thing, that's what you're gonna do, then hey, do

713
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 2: your thing. What am I gonna say? Right? But sometimes

714
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 2: it's just like really that, like we gotta come for

715
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 2: her the same way you come for Like, matter of fact,

716
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 2: I made this joke the other day, are we like

717
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 2: Lena Dunne apologize? I guess we gotta be easy on

718
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 2: her the way we all all gabby. And it's an

719
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 2: obvious joke because Lena Dunnan's done like twelve things, you

720
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like it just but it feels

721
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 2: like people come come at it the same intensity for everybody,

722
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 2: And I'm like, ill, right't man, if that's what y'all

723
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 2: want to do. But to me, it's like I don't

724
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 2: see it the same. I think she's wrong, but I

725
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 2: don't know her life like that. To also, you know,

726
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 2: I felt bad about Chrissette Michelle Man. I still kind

727
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 2: of feel bad, you know, like that was some bullshit

728
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 2: that she said and did that and fucked up to

729
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 2: use someone else's picture of a miscarriage and shit like

730
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 2: she sounds like a shady, fucked up person. But I

731
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 2: don't know what's what's up with her, Like I don't

732
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 2: know how she got to that point or whatever. I mean.

733
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 2: I don't consume her music or anything. But like I said,

734
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 2: maybe empathy overload. I sometimes I just feel bad for people,

735
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 2: even when I don't agree with them or don't like them,

736
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 2: I still feel bad because I'm like, what happened to

737
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 2: you that?

738
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 4: And the thing is, you have to see the humanity

739
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 4: in people, and I think we live in a society

740
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 4: where nobody wants to.

741
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 3: See the humanity.

742
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 4: They only want to see the humanity in themselves. They

743
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 4: only want grace and mercy applied upon themselves and their

744
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 4: family members and their loved ones. And it's like, fuck

745
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 4: everybody else. But that's unrealistic because you have to you

746
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 4: have to, well you don't have to. It would behoove

747
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 4: you to extend that to other people, because the same

748
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 4: grace and mercy that you want on your people and

749
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 4: your folks, you know, you need to extend that out

750
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 4: into my opinions. And for me, it's one of those

751
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 4: things where even back on then we talking about Danny.

752
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 4: The thing is what I realize is that we can disagree,

753
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 4: but we still need to listen, and you need to

754
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 4: allow people who have different opinions than you to express themselves.

755
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 4: And you bought up a good point. Particularly with social media.

756
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 4: Social media has made it where people don't want to

757
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,280
Speaker 4: have nuanced conversations. They want to win a fucking debate.

758
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 4: And sometimes I want to have a conversation. I don't

759
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 4: want debate. I don't want bullet points, I don't want something.

760
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 4: I don't want you derailing the conversation talking about everything else.

761
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 4: But the fucking my point is all because you want

762
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 4: the cheers or the collapse, and then you go get

763
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 4: them and you drag.

764
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 3: Them and and that's not I don't function like that.

765
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 4: And there's a lot of people who go on social

766
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 4: media and talk like that, But when I talk to

767
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 4: you face to face, you don't respond like that. You're

768
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 4: very smart and very intelligent, and we can have a deep,

769
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 4: well out thought thoughtful discussion. But it's like, for some reason,

770
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 4: social media causes people to turn that side of them

771
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 4: off where it it doesn't become about actually having a

772
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 4: conversation learning, because that's the thing I can disagree with

773
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 4: you and learn you can disagree with me and learn.

774
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 4: You know, I can say, okay, I've never thought of

775
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 4: it like that, because nobody knows everything. And a lot

776
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 4: of times when you have conversations with people, they'll bring

777
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 4: their personal experiences up and you.

778
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 3: Be like, you know what, I've never really thought of

779
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 3: it like that, or you.

780
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 4: Know what, this is causing me to challenge myself or

781
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 4: to open my mind, open my heart, or open my eyes,

782
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 4: open my soul to something outside of what I normally experienced.

783
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,240
Speaker 4: And the thing is social media for some pople don't

784
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 4: they don't do that. They just don't do that, you know,

785
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 4: and it could be very frustrated. That's why sometimes in

786
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 4: certain conversations, the debates and things that I go up

787
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 4: and down social media, I just don't comment because everybody

788
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:56,479
Speaker 4: I feel like this. Sometimes, particularly when they're angry, people

789
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 4: get so wrapped up in their feelings and their emotions

790
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 4: and shit like that that they are irrationally illogical and

791
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 4: they just cut off all forms of rational rationality. Do

792
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 4: what you're like, Okay, you really aren't in the spot,

793
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 4: are in a place where you're going to have a

794
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 4: conversation with me.

795
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 3: You're just mad.

796
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 2: There's also consequences for actions, right, Like I can't stop

797
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 2: like I saw what Gaby said and when yeah, that's

798
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 2: fucked up, and then you know what, I can't stop

799
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 2: her from getting roasted. I can't stop the people that

800
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,959
Speaker 2: react to it. I like, I understand how it works,

801
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 2: because I also understand it the other way, which is

802
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 2: that when people get mad, it is what it is

803
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 2: at this time, at this point on social media. If

804
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 2: you don't know, then that's on you. But you know, uh,

805
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 2: I mean, of course, with every single person that has

806
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 2: an infraction, you hope they learn from it. You hope

807
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 2: something good comes from it. But you don't know, but

808
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 2: you hope. But the thing I was gonna add though,

809
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 2: like when people don't like somebody, their principles go out

810
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 2: the window. Yes it does, and I think it frustrates me,

811
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 2: but it's human. Andtruggle with it because I understand that,

812
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 2: Like that's a human thing. I don't like you, So

813
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 2: even when you do something great, I can't put that

814
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 2: down for a second. Ago why I'm glad they did that,

815
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,720
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And I guess I struggle

816
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 2: with that, you know, because even and vice versa two

817
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 2: like person they did something shitty. I can't put my

818
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 2: like for them down enough to go you what you

819
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 2: did with shitty, you know, But some of it's so performative.

820
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 2: Like you know, if somebody said some shit and you

821
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 2: disagree with it, if you don't go find a Twitter

822
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 2: and put out some tweets into their timeline about how

823
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 2: fuck you and all this shit for everybody, then someone

824
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 2: because of how people are on social media now someone

825
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 2: will be looking at that like, oh, I saw you

826
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 2: didn't say nothing when so and so did this, And

827
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, because you were always saying something to

828
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 2: everybody else, so now it sticks out like a sore thumb,

829
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 2: which is one of the reasons I don't really participate

830
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 2: in that. Let me go find so and so and

831
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 2: tell them about itself, like why would.

832
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 4: I do that?

833
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 3: Right? I don't do that.

834
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 4: I don't go at people. I don't go find people,

835
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 4: like go out of my way. But some people do

836
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 4: it right, and then it was even fucked up. My

837
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 4: opinion was even more fucked up. If I'm on my

838
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 4: personal timeline putting out stuff on my timeline and then

839
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 4: you right, you hop up, and then you that person

840
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 4: I did not at them, and it was not if

841
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 4: it was not your responsibility nor your authority to at them.

842
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 3: If I wanted to at them, I would have on

843
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 3: my own.

844
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 2: People that do that, Like you ain't got nothing to

845
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 2: say about this, like, uh, are you paying me?

846
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 5: Like?

847
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 2: Are you paying for my personal thoughts? You know what

848
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 2: I mean? So, like it's that weird type of ship

849
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 2: like that where I think we've all started to grow

850
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 2: accustomed to it and deal with it because people view

851
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 2: us as somebody that consume, not a human being anymore.

852
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 2: But I don't want to ever lose that, so, you know,

853
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 2: but like, for example, Kim Kardashian, uh is supposedly paying

854
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 2: for legal representation for that girl who's accused of were

855
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 2: not accused. She was convicted of killing her rapist in

856
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 2: self defense and they convicted her.

857
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 3: Murder, right, And a second, I think she was in

858
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 3: uh what sex slave and she.

859
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 4: Was trying to feel sex trafficked, Yeah, Jeff traffic sex trafficking,

860
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 4: and she was basically trying to escape ended up killing him.

861
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 2: Right, And and I've still seen people like trying to

862
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 2: find a way to come to like shit on Kim

863
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 2: Kardashian while she's literally trying to help this woman. You

864
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 2: know this girl, like essentially she's she's not even that old.

865
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 2: So like, I'm like, you couldn't put the hate down

866
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 2: for a second and be like, well, you know, because

867
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: it's not like you had to comment, right, you could

868
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,280
Speaker 2: have just said nothing, but for a second, you couldn't

869
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 2: be like so if let's say, I'm let's say that

870
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 2: you think this is the most self serving thing. She's

871
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 2: not being altruistic at all. She didn't decide to like

872
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 2: she's helping her for some bad reason. I don't know

873
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 2: what it would be, but this, this is how people,

874
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 2: you know, people believe these like in city, it's things

875
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 2: about folks. Even if the end result was something anet

876
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 2: positive to help Centoya Brown, you would you couldn't put

877
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 2: your hate down for one second and shit like that

878
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,919
Speaker 2: when I'm like, what's wrong with people? Like, something's wrong

879
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: with people? Because because all you did was tweet out

880
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 2: some shit. All you did was sign a petition for

881
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: some shit. You didn't put up single dollar. You didn't.

882
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 2: You haven't like if anything, you're signal boosting, this might

883
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: be the end result. I signal boosted enough, retweeted enough,

884
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 2: spread enough awareness that it got to a Kim Kardashian's attention,

885
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 2: who said, I have millions of dollars, let me spend

886
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 2: some money to help this woman, and you steal shit

887
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 2: on her because it wasn't the right person to pick

888
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 2: up like it's that kind of it's that kind of

889
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 2: shit where I'm like, I don't know, I don't know

890
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 2: how to handle peace in general when it comes to

891
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 2: shit like that.

892
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 4: So because I don't function like that. And the thing

893
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 4: about Kim Kardashian, I knew that people didn't like her.

894
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 4: Like I said, I'm very neutral on Kim Kardashian.

895
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, she does fucked up. She don't get me wrong,

896
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 3: and stuff like.

897
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 4: That, you know, because everybody does. You know, nobody's perfect.

898
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 4: Everybody messes up in social.

899
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 2: Media or whatever.

900
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 4: But my thing, particularly on that thing with her, like

901
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 4: her jury got stolen ship like that, people acted the

902
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 4: motherfucking food to make jokes.

903
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 3: She was like just for that.

904
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 4: He was like, no, no, no, baby, that wasn't a joke.

905
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 4: In we was talking about like when her baby went to.

906
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 2: Data fashion show right and a daughter right, and.

907
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 4: People lost their motherfucking mind. It's not challenging and acting

908
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,919
Speaker 4: like it was unrealistic and it was like, Yo, y'all

909
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 4: got problems because some of this attacking.

910
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 3: Her is just ridiculous, Like this is just if this

911
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 3: was a normal ass.

912
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 4: Person, you wouldn't respond with this hatred and and and

913
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 4: vow towards one person is actually just trying to live

914
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 4: her life.

915
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like I said, I don't consume them,

916
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 2: so I don't have the low tolerance that you know

917
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 2: a lot of people say. So everybody hates them. They

918
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 2: still have this number one reality show whatever. But the

919
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,280
Speaker 2: point being just kind of getting back to the Gabby

920
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 2: thing is it seemed like people's principals shift on a

921
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 2: dime like that, it does, you know. So anyway, all

922
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 2: that to say, like I've seen on social media too

923
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 2: much of like what happens when you say stuff like

924
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 2: what she said, So I knew she was gonna get dragged,

925
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,720
Speaker 2: it wasn't. I was just like, that's unfortunate. And also

926
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 2: there's a lot of people that were like, hold up,

927
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 2: don't drag her, stop stop stop, And I'm like, okay,

928
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 2: But then I know that you're only saying that because

929
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 2: you like her, because y'all typically don't say that if

930
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 2: she would have just been some motherfucker with two hundred

931
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 2: followers that you don't know. It would have been like,

932
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,919
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck that she's a young black woman.

933
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 2: I don't know her, you know what I'm saying. So

934
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 2: it's like, I've rooted for this woman in the Olympics,

935
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 2: so I'm going to stop and defend her if but

936
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 2: there's plenty of people I see get drug that ain't

937
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 2: in the Olympics and nobody ever stops in toils if

938
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 2: she's young. I was like, this too, I'll learn.

939
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 3: I learned she can learn.

940
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 2: I wish we I wish it was more of the latter.

941
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 2: But once again, I understand people are human and correct.

942
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 2: You know, it's to expect that would be ridiculous. But

943
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 2: I just, you know, I just sometimes I look at

944
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 2: these dragons and all this shit, and I just hope

945
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 2: that I don't know, I just hope that people get

946
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 2: a chance to grow. But I just think on the

947
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 2: other side of the table, people don't really grow from

948
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 2: the quote unquote dragons that people on Twitter really get

949
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 2: off on and social media and stuff like people say, oh,

950
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 2: I wish I want to I want you to grow

951
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 2: from that, But how am I supposed to grow with this,

952
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 2: and half y'all say you're gonna kill me, people call

953
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 2: me bitch, people threatening you know, I hope you get raped,

954
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 2: and shit like that. It's like those Unfortunately, because of

955
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 2: how we are as humans, those sinking more than the

956
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 2: gentle like Gabby, Please, I need you to understand. Unfortunately,

957
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 2: that's just a it's a bad environment. It's as much

958
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,919
Speaker 2: as it's a toxic environment to exist in, it's also

959
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 2: a toxic environment when we would to have a quote

960
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 2: unquote growing moment or all this shit, it's also toxic

961
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 2: to learn in. This is a very I don't know,

962
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 2: it's a very bad I think I'll deleat my Twitter

963
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 2: all the time now because it's just like what's what's

964
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 2: supposed to happen here? You know, like what good is

965
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 2: coming of this right now? Anyway? Do you think Gabby

966
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 2: will grow from this? Yes or no? Seventy say yes

967
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 2: and twenty nine percent say no. I hope she does.

968
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 3: I already do hope she does too.

969
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 4: Because the thing is somebody brought up in the chat

970
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 4: room social media, and not for everybody, because you know,

971
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 4: some people.

972
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 3: Their persona on social media isn't the real them. But

973
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 3: for most people. That's who they are, like the person

974
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 3: out there. No sympathy, no empathy, just acting correct dash

975
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 3: literally who they are.

976
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we had an episode fifteen sixty four,

977
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 2: the Right to Remain Silent but Deadly. A lot of

978
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,479
Speaker 2: fart jokes in this one. Ah Miss one Ko says,

979
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 2: thanks for the Golden Globe breakdown. That comedy musical category

980
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 2: is a straight workaround scam. Hopefully get Out gets a win.

981
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 2: Though Girl Trips was funny. Girl Trip was funny. Side note, Karen,

982
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 2: you aren't ignorant for thinking of comedy categories for comedy.

983
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 2: That just makes you literate. Ha ha, Yes, comedy, the

984
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 2: category is actually comedy and musical. Right, I was confused, Rod,

985
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 2: I need you to write that screenplay about the one

986
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy five year old woman to play the

987
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 2: lead in love with her zombie husband. Hello, l ah

988
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 2: Arby says, hearing you speak about the stories that came

989
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 2: from North Korea reminded me of a biography that came

990
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 2: out in the last couple of years by Yon Me Park,

991
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 2: who escaped with her mom when she was thirteen. She's

992
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 2: just now twenty four years old. The book is extraordinary,

993
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 2: not because of this hypolotic, hyperbolic and propagandist, but because

994
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 2: the situation she found herself in was so unlike anything

995
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 2: most people would ever experience. It's called in Order to

996
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 2: Live a North Korea Girls Journey to Freedom and it's

997
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 2: a fairly quick read for anyone interested. Thanks RB, and

998
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 2: the Paul was, do you forgive Chrissette Michelle? Yes, welcome

999
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 2: back to the couch? She did make that Black Lives

1000
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 2: Matter song?

1001
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 3: She did.

1002
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 2: And the other answer is hell no, no, wait no,

1003
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 2: hell no. Even one percent of y'all said no, hell no,

1004
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 2: even she cannot come back to the cookout.

1005
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 3: You don't have to do a little bit more than that, Brook.

1006
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 2: When Shoeba says we warned people about Trump, We warned you.

1007
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 2: You didn't listen, so don't come back now. Fuck you.

1008
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 2: That's for the conservative Jews in my NYC neighborhood, the

1009
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 2: conservative Christians, the legal immigrants who became became Christians, the

1010
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 2: woman hating male liber the women voting against that all interests.

1011
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 2: We warned them that Trump wasn't for them, and now

1012
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 2: they're seeing it and experiencing but you supported him, so

1013
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 2: fuck you forever. Really, Dark Knight says, I got nothing

1014
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 2: to add to what Brooklyn Shoeba said Forever Dog. Yeah,

1015
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,439
Speaker 2: I hear y'all one hundred percent that was very rare

1016
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 2: or not we.

1017
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 3: Didn't even have the trol.

1018
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:20,479
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1019
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 3: I bet y'all on black women too. Yeah.

1020
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 2: I also just think she hasn't really put it in

1021
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 2: that much work.

1022
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 3: Like I said, the thing is, I do have empathy

1023
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 3: and sympathy, But the thing is, change is an action.

1024
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 3: Change is just not you saying you change. It's a verb.

1025
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 4: You have to put something behind it. It's got to

1026
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 4: be more than a song. You got to show me

1027
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 4: that you actually kind of learned, you know, because a

1028
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 4: lot of times this is that fake thing. And the

1029
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 4: thing is, when people are looking for you to change,

1030
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 4: if it's sincere, only time will tell. Then if it's not,

1031
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 4: you'll get mad and frustrated that ain't by the embracing you,

1032
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 4: and then you're turning back and get angry.

1033
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 3: Would that mean you wasn't doing this for the right reasons?

1034
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 2: The next episode is fifteen sixty five LeVar versus LeVar. Hi,

1035
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,720
Speaker 2: I so appreciate the awkward silences from Brooklyn shoe after

1036
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 2: you said that. Several Silverman fell in love with Trump voters.

1037
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 2: At first I thought my connection dropped, but then I

1038
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 2: heard Queen Karen's discussed it. Scout sigh, Yes, girl, I

1039
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 2: had just made the same sound. I also love your

1040
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 2: analysis of LeVar Barar. Although I don't pay attention to

1041
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 2: him except when you talk about him on Balls Deep,

1042
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 2: I want him to keep agitating Trump be the troll

1043
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 2: that black people need. I'm grateful for TBGWT Happy Thanksgiving,

1044
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 2: Rod and Karen Anonymous says, Lol, I'm guilty of using

1045
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 2: Facebook marketplace. Last year. I sold my Xbox one, then

1046
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,439
Speaker 2: I upgraded to A one s. I like the fact

1047
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 2: that you can see the person's Facebook and how long

1048
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 2: they've been on Facebook. It made me feel a little

1049
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 2: safer about the transaction. Love the show Happy Thanksgiving.

1050
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 3: Oh I didn't think about that.

1051
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess so really Dark Knight says riding Queen Cairen.

1052
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 2: Although what is going about what is going down as

1053
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 2: in is very interesting to me. No, not because there

1054
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 2: was a military coup and they took over the country.

1055
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 2: Not because people's lives will be up will be upset

1056
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 2: while a new government is getting set up. Nope, Rod

1057
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 2: should have kept reading that article. They found eight billion

1058
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 2: dollars in cash and with Gobby's home, that's right down,

1059
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:20,240
Speaker 2: eight motherfucking billions straight cash on me hah. I usually

1060
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 2: that niggas was swimming in there like swim food Scrooge

1061
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 2: with dum damn he was falling. I usually dismissed Leavar Ball,

1062
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 2: but since my timeline blew up, I watched for three minutes.

1063
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,879
Speaker 2: Funny how Chris Kumo tried to get levard to thank

1064
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 2: Trump and he wasn't having one bit of that shit.

1065
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 2: LeVar Burtons mentions, on the other hand, can rest in

1066
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 2: peace with all the racism that must be coming his way.

1067
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 2: Right even he says, I hope LaVar Ball never apologized

1068
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 2: the Trump. I was reading somewhere from someone who practices

1069
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 2: international law that LaVar was probably right and didn't do

1070
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 2: much of anything for the the that he didn't do

1071
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 2: much of anything for those students because shoplifting really is

1072
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 2: considered a small offense even in China. It wouldn't have

1073
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 2: been more the more than likely they would have gotten

1074
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 2: the deport it because they're foreigners. The point of doing

1075
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 2: something nice for someone that's not put the things, but

1076
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 2: because it's the right thing to do so I love

1077
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 2: that LaVar Ball has gotten under Mango Mussolini's skin. Fuck Trump,

1078
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 2: troll on, LaVar troll on. Yeah, like we're now at

1079
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 2: the point where LaVar Ball becomes the Time magazine Person

1080
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 2: of the Year just to troll Trump. I'd be okay

1081
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 2: with it, I.

1082
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:23,439
Speaker 3: Would, dude.

1083
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 4: And they said somebody boosts his stocks or something. Some

1084
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 4: stocks went up, like he made money.

1085
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 3: Off of this.

1086
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 2: Guess some people try to get them shoes. I don't

1087
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:36,959
Speaker 2: know that Rota Sarah Chicken shes destructo kid it says.

1088
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 2: The Zimbabwe situation has been such an emotional roller coaster.

1089
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 2: As someone that's from the neighboring country, all my Zimbabian Zambian,

1090
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 2: all my Zamie Zambian group trats being busy as hell personally,

1091
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 2: I never like to do because even after helping free

1092
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 2: the country from colonial occupation, he then went and participated

1093
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 2: in a lot of shady stuff that ended up hurting

1094
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 2: people of the country. I have a lot of complicated

1095
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 2: feelings about it, but I'm glad he's been for stout.

1096
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 2: I do find some of the commentary from white British

1097
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 2: folks interesting, though a whole lot of folks celebrating with

1098
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 2: vaguely racist undertones. Also, don't get me started on older

1099
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 2: folks who were mad. Britain's occupation ended to just a mess.

1100
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 2: Shaking my head. Yeah, Like I said, I know enough

1101
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 2: to know, I don't know right, so I ain't really

1102
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 2: got to know how it takes on any of that.

1103
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 2: Should LeVar Ball thank Trump? Yes?

1104
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 4: No?

1105
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 2: Or never lost? Never lost?

1106
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 4: Yes?

1107
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 2: Got zero percent of the vote. Zero percent of our

1108
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 2: audience thinks they that LaVar bars should thank Trump. No,

1109
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 2: Forty seven percent say do not thank him and say

1110
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 2: never lost Yes, mag I picked that one. Ten twelve fingers,

1111
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 2: head full of hell, yes, ten feet tall. Keen to

1112
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 2: get to do leavar Ball again to night?

1113
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:55,919
Speaker 5: Yes.

1114
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 2: If they don't do LaVar Ball tonight, that's and they're

1115
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 2: really wasted. A fucking great impression. Oh man, all right,

1116
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 2: Thank god for Nigan was our walking dad recap only

1117
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 2: even he wrote in she says so keeping my fingers

1118
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 2: crossed gave it's just faking because I'm not ready for

1119
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 2: him to go just yet. If he dies, I wanted

1120
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 2: to be in a blaze of glory.

1121
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 3: I think he will.

1122
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 4: He's been on long enough when he come on Season

1123
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 4: four or fives running there something like that. Yeah, so

1124
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 4: he's been on long enough and we got background and

1125
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 4: we watched him grow and normally the walking Dad is

1126
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 4: really good. Well, if you've been on there for any

1127
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 4: extensive period of time, you're you know, when you die,

1128
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 4: it's not a pointless death.

1129
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 3: It's actually really more meaningful.

1130
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 2: I hope, So, man, I hope you're right here.

1131
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 4: I don't think they would do him like that because

1132
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,800
Speaker 4: he actually means something to the storyline, and he's almost

1133
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 4: he's somewhat of the heart, you know, kind of keep

1134
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 4: people found, you know, foundation and rooted.

1135
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,919
Speaker 3: So yeah, I hope he don't die. But if he does,

1136
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 3: I think they do him justice.

1137
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 2: I think he probably got bit and he gonna die

1138
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 2: next week or whenever they show him again. He's gonna

1139
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 2: be dying trying to get Carson out. Floyd turns.

1140
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 3: That would make sense.

1141
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 2: Do you think Gay was bitten? Yes or no? Yes?

1142
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 2: And seventy percent say no, He's just sick. So interesting. Uh,

1143
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:18,760
Speaker 2: let me see if we have any voicemails. I don't remember.

1144
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 2: I played this one from Sunday Sky. I think we

1145
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 2: got two voicemails.

1146
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 5: Hey, Rod and Carron, this is Gerald, I'm pretty new

1147
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 5: to the show. I'll make this quick because only normally

1148
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 5: got two minutes. I love the reviews that that Rod

1149
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 5: and Boxy do for this too much. Uh. And then

1150
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 5: I also love the reviews you have been doing for

1151
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 5: The Walking Dead. But it kills me sometimes that a

1152
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 5: few of the small nuances in both shows y'all seem

1153
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 5: to skip over or not catch when you watching it.

1154
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 5: And one of the things that just caught me in

1155
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 5: this episode of I forget the name of the episode,

1156
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 5: the last the Last Walking Bad episode talking about the

1157
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,280
Speaker 5: first time that Jaredry saw a Zekiel out of character.

1158
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 5: In reality, Jerry is the one who broke character first

1159
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 5: in front of Ezekiel, because when he came over, he

1160
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,359
Speaker 5: split that dude in have He turned around, he saw

1161
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 5: all the zombies coming, and he turned back to him

1162
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 5: and out of his character, he said, oh, hey, man,

1163
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 5: let me follow this real quick. He went over, killed

1164
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 5: those guys and then came back and he was like,

1165
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 5: all right, get behind me, your majesty, but he wasn't

1166
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 5: using his voice. And then Ezekiel was the one who said,

1167
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 5: and I'm not your majesty or whatever you said. He's like, dude,

1168
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 5: I really need you to be so Jerry broke character.

1169
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 5: First he was like, man, it's real right now, it's

1170
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 5: just me and you. Let's just be real, get this

1171
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 5: knocked out.

1172
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 2: But you still my king.

1173
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 5: I still need you to be that, so don't give

1174
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 5: up on me. So it wasn't that Jerry got broken

1175
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 5: down by Ezekiel. Ezekiel was broken down by the fact

1176
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 5: that Jerry was like, look, we can break character right now.

1177
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 5: We got work to do. And then Ezekiel was comfortable

1178
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 5: breaking character. So if y'all go back and rewatch that,

1179
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 5: just notice that that. It was actually Jerry and ezeki

1180
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 5: were both like, all right, we got to handle this

1181
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 5: right now. But Jerry was the one keeping Ezekiel in

1182
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 5: text saying, hey, you still have to be the king.

1183
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 5: We still need you right now. We're gonna handle this business.

1184
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 5: But I appreciate it, and y'all have a good one.

1185
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 2: All right. First of all, Jerild, thank you for right

1186
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 2: calling in. Secondly, I did mention that during the show.

1187
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 2: The thing is, it's not a big deal to Jerry

1188
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 2: bro character. He's done it before, He's done it several times. Actually,

1189
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 2: It's kind of what makes him funny is that he

1190
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 2: breaks character all the time. I mean, he'll be like,

1191
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 2: your majes see this, your madjes see that. But even

1192
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 2: when they met, when Rick and that crew met Ezekiel

1193
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 2: for the first time and they were on that stage

1194
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 2: and that like little what do you call it that

1195
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 2: it was like a multipurpose room or something. When they

1196
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 2: seem he broke character, then you know that's that's Jerry's character.

1197
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 2: Is he breaks character. He'll go from your your highness

1198
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 2: and your majesty to dude, but really bro like like

1199
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 2: that's his whole thing. So to me, it was not

1200
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 2: a big deal. And I did mention the whole thing

1201
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 2: where he's like, I really need you to be. But

1202
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 2: it was even then, Zekiel broke character differently than when

1203
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 2: he broke it at the creek. It was different cause

1204
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 2: it went at the fence. It was kind of like, Jared,

1205
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 2: we still don't need like it was still like that,

1206
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 2: but he was at the creek. Come on, man, he

1207
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 2: was up there like I'm just a nigga from Detroit.

1208
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 2: Help God, why are you even following me? Y'all? Just

1209
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 2: let them meet me?

1210
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 4: Like it was different, like he had just giving up

1211
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 4: whole Yeah, Like it was completely different.

1212
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 3: And I also I think that for Zeke to break character,

1213
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 3: it meant something.

1214
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 4: It meant a lot more because his whole thing was

1215
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 4: people supporting him because of that, and when he looked

1216
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 4: at him and he was basically like, I'm just a

1217
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 4: regular person.

1218
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 3: That that affects the people.

1219
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 4: That's trying to follow you, even though they understand that

1220
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 4: you're quote unquote not a king.

1221
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 3: It's one of those things where they have to. Like

1222
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 3: he like, he's told Carol that.

1223
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 4: Gotta believe in something they had. You know, people need

1224
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 4: to believe in something, and I am that's something that

1225
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 4: they believe in. Like you told Carroll, fake it?

1226
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 3: Do you make it? Baby? But you know he jokes

1227
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 3: and all that stuff, but you know that that's real.

1228
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 4: And you know it's gonna be interesting to see what

1229
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 4: happens and if he puts himself back together, and if

1230
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 4: he does put his stuff back together, how or if

1231
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 4: he continues to fall to pieces, because I really do

1232
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 4: think that we're going to see him go through emotional

1233
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 4: roller coaster ride.

1234
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 2: I mean, because he's broken character for Caroll a few times,

1235
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 2: but privately, one on one, I mean that shit was different, man,

1236
01:00:58,200 --> 01:00:59,919
Speaker 2: Like you told him, I'm just a guy. Some shit

1237
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 2: like that. I was like, damn, like he was really

1238
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 2: ready to die there. He want to go and face

1239
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 2: them people and put on that mask again, you know.

1240
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 2: But I do think he's gonna put himself back together

1241
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 2: because when he got back to you know, he put

1242
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 2: his hand on young Master Will or whatever his name

1243
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 2: was before he went in. So I don't know, but yeah,

1244
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 2: I appreciate you writing in and whatnot calling in. Yeah,

1245
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 2: thank you, and thank you for dead explaining to us,

1246
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 2: and someone in the chat brought up oh man next voicemail.

1247
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 6: Good evening, Rod and Karen.

1248
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 3: This is the Queen.

1249
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 6: I am living in Virgin Islands, and you know, I

1250
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 6: missed listening to you guys.

1251
01:01:57,960 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 5: Since like September sixth.

1252
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 6: Finally we got some internet, so I've downloaded as many

1253
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 6: episodes as I can and I'm binging and listening. I

1254
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 6: mis listening to you all, and I hope I can

1255
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 6: recover some of the older ones.

1256
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 5: Back to September sixth.

1257
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 6: Everything is okay, so take care and.

1258
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 2: Oh did it cut out? Okay? You cut out and

1259
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 2: cut back in. First of all, thank you for cow

1260
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 2: I'm glad you're okay, and I'm glad you got the internet. Baby, Yeah,

1261
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 2: glad you got some internet. I know, listen as a

1262
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 2: podcast addict. Let me tell you something, there ain't nothing

1263
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 2: that feels worse than when you were you were you

1264
01:02:55,360 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 2: struck with no podcasts, specch for extended period of time. Oh,

1265
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 2: you feel like you're missing out in the whole world,

1266
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 2: you know, especially if it's like my friends in my

1267
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 2: head the podcast you know. So yeah, I'm glad you're

1268
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 2: doing okay. I'm glad you got your Internet. I'm glad

1269
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 2: you're safe. I love your accent. So soon as you

1270
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 2: started talking, I was like, oh, that is that an

1271
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 2: accent out here? But yeah, I'm glad, you're glad you're

1272
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 2: doing okay, And yeah, man, September sixth, it's such a

1273
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 2: long time. It's who's November now? Two months without no internet.

1274
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 2: I can't even imagine what that feels like, or, as

1275
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 2: I like to call it, my dream. No, not just kidnap,

1276
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 2: I just mean without Twitter and Facebook. But yeah, I'm

1277
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 2: glad you're okay. All Right, we got some emails and

1278
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 2: it's time to get out of here. Timothy Rights and

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Speaker 2: hi Rod and Karen The Savage Empire book is finished.

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Speaker 2: He's a comic book artist. He sent us a comic book.

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Speaker 2: I've been reading it and it's dope. It's called Savage Empire.

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Speaker 2: About halfway through UH is finished and shipped to backers.

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Speaker 2: As I mentioned to you on Twitter, I sent a

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Speaker 2: hardcover copy to you guys to share. I also include

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01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 2: a tribute to the podcast and the book artwork, and

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01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 2: let me know when you find it. I learned a

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Speaker 2: lot when it comes to successfully crowdfunding the project and

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01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 2: delivering some hard lessons that I wouldn't mind sharing if

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Speaker 2: you steal down for interview. Oh yeah, I would love

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Speaker 2: to interview for medium talk. Man, I've just been slacking.

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01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 2: I got to get back to y'all started. I recently

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01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 2: started restarted that show, so yeah, I'll hit you up.

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Speaker 2: I'll reply to this real talk. The reason why I

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01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 2: included the TVGT hashtag and the page artwork comes down

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01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 2: to the deep appreciation for the hard work you guys

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Speaker 2: continue to put in week and week out. The work

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Speaker 2: ethic you two put on displayers inspired and when I

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01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 2: came into some serious issues with my book, key people,

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01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 2: quitting it didn't get me down. I found a way

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01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 2: taught myself the skills to replace the folks out lost,

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01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 2: reached out directly to the backers to let them know

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Speaker 2: what the wise and when the book will be late,

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Speaker 2: and made it happen. Yeah, that's dope.

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Speaker 4: Yup, because the thing about it, sometimes you got to

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01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 4: be a one man machine and people don't want to

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01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:08,440
Speaker 4: believe that. But something I realized about independent people in

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01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 4: the small business owners, particularly brown people, we will do

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Speaker 4: it all.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I ain't got no editor, I will edit the

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Speaker 3: hell out of this. I ain't got no drawer.

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Speaker 4: I will fucking learn how to draw. I will learn

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01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 4: how to do everything to make my dream happen. So

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01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 4: kudos for you, because people underestimate the hard work and

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Speaker 4: dedication that it takes to get these things done babies,

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Speaker 4: So congratulations.

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Speaker 2: I grew up in British Columbia, immigrated as a baby

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01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 2: with all my extended family back in Jamaica and the UK,

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01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 2: not a lot of us black folks around here. I

1319
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 2: grew up fighting a lot. Finding your podcast is the

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Speaker 2: first time in thirty plus years that I felt like

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01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 2: media personalities were talking directly to me. But regular folks

1322
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 2: with regular jobs, hopes, dreams and worries that can't be fake.

1323
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 2: The banter and the laughter and the anger can't be fake.

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01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 2: With three sons of my own, I spent a lot

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01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 2: of time referencing issues right up on the podcast. My

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01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 2: oldest boy and we actually listen to the podcast while

1327
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 2: driving across country to our farm in Saskatchewan each year,

1328
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 2: laughing over segments, getting serious when the time calls for.

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Speaker 2: You helped me build more bridges and communication with my

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01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 2: teenage sons, and that's something I can never pay you

1331
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 2: guys have a fan for life up here in Vancouver

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Speaker 2: and betting a permanent shout out in the in work,

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01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 2: in the work that I've dedicated for the last four

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Speaker 2: plus years of my life too. That's the least I

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01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 2: can do to say thank you. So thank you Karen,

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01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 2: thank you for riding and your dad Tim, Thank you man.

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Speaker 2: That was very sweet. And know I will definitely.

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Speaker 3: Interview you man, because all emotional, right.

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Speaker 2: I'll tear it up a little bit.

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01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, talking to the babies and shit.

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Speaker 2: Right, good, good, I'm glad. I'm glad to help man.

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Speaker 2: I'm what time I was on Twitter. I'm not gonna

1343
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 2: say what's user, but you know, use it that was

1344
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 2: pretty popular at the time, like I think I retweeted

1345
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 2: something or maybe I was talking about something, and I

1346
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 2: was like, you know, I think with someone who said, man,

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01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 2: like I appreciate your podcast, appreciate with you and Karen

1348
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 2: do and specifically with you, you told me like kind

1349
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 2: of showed me as a man how to like be

1350
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 2: a better person in this way and other kind of

1351
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 2: be better to women in my life and LGBTQ people

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01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 2: in my life and things of this nature. And I

1353
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 2: was like, cool, you know, I'm glad to hear that.

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01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 2: Da da da. And then this person who, like I said,

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Speaker 2: I won't name, but she responded back like, well, you know,

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01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 2: you haven't done anything.

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Speaker 3: I doubt it.

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Speaker 2: It hadn't helped anybody. I was like, well, people say

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01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 2: that the show helps them. I can't. I mean, how

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01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 2: can I actually know. I mean, I just take that

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01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 2: word for but you know, uh. But she but she

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01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 2: just kind of like shitted on the show, which I'm

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01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 2: sure she had never listened to, you know whatever. And

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Speaker 2: I just brushed it off because people can do that

1365
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 2: kind of shit on social media where you just have

1366
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 2: to be like, you know, maybe you're in a bad headspace. Whatever.

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01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 2: You know, they were, they're a person that puts a

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01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 2: lot of work online that people see and and all

1369
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 2: this stuff, and I'm like, I know you think your

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01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 2: work impact stuff and helps people for the better. I

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01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 2: know I've seen people thank you, but somehow, specifically when

1372
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 2: it comes to what you know, I'm sure my shit,

1373
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 2: you don't listen to or really respect. It was like whatever.

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01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 2: But every once in a while someone write in and

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01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:13,440
Speaker 2: be like, well, I have these conversations now because of

1376
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 2: what y'all do on the show, or I got through

1377
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:17,680
Speaker 2: a really hard time because of what y'all say on

1378
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 2: the show, and it does make me emotional, and you know,

1379
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 2: speaking of Thanksgiving, that's what I'm thankful for, because you know,

1380
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 2: we're not just talking into a void here. I don't

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01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:30,679
Speaker 2: feel like what we're doing is like necessarily that special

1382
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 2: change in the world. But I'm glad when it does

1383
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 2: resonate with people, and especially when you hear stories, you know,

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01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:42,720
Speaker 2: about people being able to talk to their kids, talk

1385
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 2: to women in their lives, talk to their children their lives,

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Speaker 2: and with the issues we talk about on here, father's

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01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 2: talking to sons is a very big thing too, because

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01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 2: you know, too much of the time we start the

1389
01:08:55,560 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 2: whole idea of what needs to happen in the community

1390
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 2: from men talking down to women, but a lot of

1391
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 2: times men need to talk to their sons, to their

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Speaker 2: children in a way that reinforces some positive things for them.

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01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 2: You know, we need to when I talk about stuff

1394
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 2: like teaching boys about consent, you know, I think people

1395
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 2: like I almost want to laugh it off, but I'm like, nah,

1396
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 2: that's that's some real shit. Because even I'm not even

1397
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:28,760
Speaker 2: saying it out of the altruism of because we need

1398
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 2: to respect these femals and learn. I'm not even gonna

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Speaker 2: say it that way, because I mean, it's a given

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01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 2: that you should respect people. But that's not the point

1401
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 2: even if you have to say it like so that

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01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:42,720
Speaker 2: you don't catch some type of sexual assault charge because

1403
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 2: because you walking around going you know, I'm a man

1404
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 2: and I can do this, this and this. No, you

1405
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 2: need to learn. You need to do so you so

1406
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 2: not just to be a better person, but to keep

1407
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:54,720
Speaker 2: yourself out of trouble, you know, so that I don't

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01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:56,759
Speaker 2: have to have another talk with you when you're sixteen

1409
01:09:56,840 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 2: seventeen about some girl that's accusing you or some shit.

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01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 2: And I have to be like, I never did talk

1411
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 2: to him about this like I did. I never did.

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01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:07,800
Speaker 2: He doesn't know what consent is. I just walked out

1413
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 2: put him out in the world, like you should know.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 2: So when I hear about, you know, people using our

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01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 2: podcast to kind of get some points home to their kids,

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01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 2: and shit, man, I love that because we have way

1418
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 2: too much in podcasts and the media of the opposite

1419
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 2: of girl close your legs, girls dress modesty, don't go

1420
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 2: to parties, don't dance, don't do this. We have so

1421
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:33,720
Speaker 2: many of those messages out there. But you know, these

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01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 2: conversations between fathers and sons should be encouraged too, and

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01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 2: especially some non toxic conversations, not some you getting some

1424
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 2: pussy board like not those conversations, but some like actual

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01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:47,680
Speaker 2: like you.

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Speaker 4: Know, like real subtance conversations, conversations is going to help

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Speaker 4: him become a better person, you know.

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Speaker 3: And it's one of those.

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01:10:56,439 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 4: Things where children turn into adults, like children, especially when

1430
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 4: it's smart than little people.

1431
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:04,640
Speaker 3: People forget to realize there are of for people. You know,

1432
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 3: they're not pets, they're not things.

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01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 4: Children are people, and you know, children turn into adults

1434
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 4: and you need to have these conversations because even talking

1435
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 4: about that and looking back on my life, I've never

1436
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:16,599
Speaker 4: had a conversation about consent.

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01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 3: I've never had a conversation.

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01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 4: About rape, Like nobody ever really set me down, you

1439
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 4: know and talked about, you know, different parts in my

1440
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 4: body where you shouldn't be touched at. Like No, I've

1441
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 4: never had any of that conversation for me personally, And

1442
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 4: I know I'm not the only one. And I know

1443
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:37,600
Speaker 4: there's people that have children that have never had these conversations,

1444
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 4: you know, particularly you know when it comes to talking

1445
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 4: to children. You know, even men you know should talk,

1446
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 4: which they do talk to the little boys, you know

1447
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 4: about you know, don't about to touch your penis.

1448
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 3: You know, and stuff like that.

1449
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 4: And just one of those things where you have a

1450
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 4: lot of adults, men and women, but more women actually

1451
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 4: because the way society is structured also teach us to

1452
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:00,640
Speaker 4: be chinfold and shame of our bodies and things like that.

1453
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 4: So I can't help you when I'm not even a

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01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 4: whole person myself.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And like I said, it's how we treat each other,

1456
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 2: like elgi Q people that are in our community. Like

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01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 2: it's not like if our podcast facilitates any of those conversations.

1458
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 2: And then I feel so proud of our work, yes,

1459
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:20,840
Speaker 2: because I think, you know, while we have fun and

1460
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 2: we make a lot of jokes and stuff, I don't

1461
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:25,720
Speaker 2: want to just only put out a product to just

1462
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 2: preserve the status quo or to make people I don't

1463
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 2: know feel good for be it for staying kind of

1464
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 2: in place. I think we do need to change for

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01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 2: the better, right and I hope I show help. Some

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01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 2: people do that.

1467
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Speaker 3: I do too. I do too.

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01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 4: Some people write us, I know sometimes people have experienced

1469
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 4: things that probably never write in, will never get an email,

1470
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 4: we'll never get a phone call, they'll never reach out

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01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 4: to us. But we I feel in my heart that

1472
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 4: there are people out there that are changing their lives

1473
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:57,599
Speaker 4: for the better, be it the way they treat their husband,

1474
01:12:57,640 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 4: the way they treat their wives, the way they treat

1475
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 4: the significant other, the way they treat their children, you know,

1476
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 4: having more empathy and sympathy, having more compassion, the way

1477
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:09,560
Speaker 4: that view LGBTQ people, being more educated about you know,

1478
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 4: things all around.

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01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 3: And you know, and I think you know, what we

1480
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:19,600
Speaker 3: do impacts people probably more than I what did we know?

1481
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 4: And so you know, for all those people, you know,

1482
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 4: it's one of those things where I feel that the

1483
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 4: love is real.

1484
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 3: I feel like it's genuine.

1485
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 4: And when y'all do, let us know, you guys don't

1486
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 4: realize how much it motivates us to keep going and

1487
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 4: keep doing and encouraging encourages us that we are doing

1488
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 4: the right thing and on the right path. And it's

1489
01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 4: one of those things where we can literally all grow

1490
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 4: together because as we learn, as we educate ourselves, we

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Speaker 4: share it with you guys, because it's all all of

1492
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:52,640
Speaker 4: life is challenging and growing and expanding, and we do

1493
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 4: it and we hope and I really hope that our

1494
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 4: audience also continues to do that too in various different

1495
01:13:57,920 --> 01:13:58,799
Speaker 4: areas of their lives.

1496
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, so thank you for writing then, man, really do

1497
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 2: appreciate it. And uh yeah, so uh uh, I was

1498
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 2: gonna say something else. What did I was gonna try?

1499
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:14,639
Speaker 2: It was no, you didn't come off.

1500
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 3: It was uh.

1501
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 2: Something you said. Oh, but no, I was gonna say, Oh,

1502
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 2: all of life isn't challenging and growing for people. Some

1503
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 2: people are just happy where they at and that's as

1504
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 2: far as they're gonna go. And a lot of and

1505
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:30,560
Speaker 2: I think a lot of media reinforces that, right. You know,

1506
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 2: if you listen to. Typically, if you listen to a

1507
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:40,639
Speaker 2: show that's about like black issues, it's very much like, well,

1508
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 2: why should we try to be any better than what

1509
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:46,120
Speaker 2: we are? And not to a certain extent, I'm like, yeah,

1510
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 2: we deserve, we can be flawed, we can have issues.

1511
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:51,800
Speaker 2: But then sometimes I'm like, but what about how that

1512
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 2: affects other people in blackness? You know, when when I

1513
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 2: you know, as much as I am happy and glad

1514
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:01,760
Speaker 2: that there's like people to have platforms, sometimes you listen

1515
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 2: to shit and you're like, well, there's nobody listening to

1516
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 2: your program gonna ever grow up because you don't want

1517
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 2: to grow up. You know, you forty fifty years old

1518
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 2: with this platform, and you you know, you're basically telling

1519
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:17,559
Speaker 2: people like, you know, a very reductive shit like Steve

1520
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 2: Harvey would do or Tyres or you know a lot

1521
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 2: of black morning shows and stuff like that. I'm happy

1522
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 2: to be a different type of show because we deserve

1523
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 2: to have our space too. You ain't got to agree

1524
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 2: with everything we say, you know, people right then all

1525
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:33,920
Speaker 2: the time, I don't agree, And I think typically, especially

1526
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 2: when they're not being specific, in a lot of cases,

1527
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 2: I think that shit when we're talking about like women's issues,

1528
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 2: LGBTQ issues, feminism, religion. I think that's where a lot

1529
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 2: of people at And honestly, if you listening to us

1530
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 2: makes you question that a little bit, I still think

1531
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:52,760
Speaker 2: it's good, you know, just examine it. Maybe you don't

1532
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 2: come to the same conclusion to us, but don't accept

1533
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:57,879
Speaker 2: the status quo as something that doesn't need to be examined.

1534
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:01,440
Speaker 4: Right, And it's also one of the things in life society,

1535
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:05,439
Speaker 4: particularly the way our school system is, ask why when

1536
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 4: people do things, Ask why. You will be amazed asking

1537
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 4: why and actually learning out why things are the way

1538
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 4: they are. Why just structured the way that is, like

1539
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 4: actually the who, what, when, where, why?

1540
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 3: And how?

1541
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 4: Those questions would actually change your life and open up doors.

1542
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 4: Society kind of don't teach us to do those things.

1543
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 4: But if you start actually doing those things, it requires work,

1544
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 4: and people are lazy and.

1545
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:28,640
Speaker 3: People don't want to work. Peop don't want to put

1546
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 3: the effort in.

1547
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 4: People don't want to do anything beyond what they know.

1548
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 4: But if you really want to expand your mind and

1549
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:37,879
Speaker 4: and expand your brain and you know, look beyond yourself,

1550
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:39,439
Speaker 4: you you got to ask your question.

1551
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 3: You've got to ask yourself these questions.

1552
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:43,599
Speaker 2: Yep, we have people come to us all the time.

1553
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 2: Like I used to didn't think this, but then I

1554
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 2: listen to our show, and you know, after a while,

1555
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 2: I'm like I understand, Like I understand what y'all say

1556
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:53,760
Speaker 2: it now, or I came around and I started to

1557
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 2: see it now, because see, the thing is also once

1558
01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:58,600
Speaker 2: some of the shit we point out, some of the

1559
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:00,640
Speaker 2: shit that other people point out to me the same thing.

1560
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:03,639
Speaker 2: Just how I learned as well. Once I can see something,

1561
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 2: sometimes I can't ever unsee it, and you can't go

1562
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:08,640
Speaker 2: back to just being ignorant, and you fight against it.

1563
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 2: It's a big ass It's honestly like a big, very

1564
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 2: predictable cycle that I watch people go through all the time.

1565
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 2: Whereas you know, oh man, so saying female is that's

1566
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:23,040
Speaker 2: like the same saying bitch. Really, I can't say females

1567
01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 2: no more. And you watch as they go through it

1568
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:28,600
Speaker 2: because once they they first rejected, they get mad that

1569
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:30,640
Speaker 2: all this shit and I'm gonna say it twice now,

1570
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 2: you know, Like, but then you watch it start to

1571
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:36,240
Speaker 2: tick and it's like they start to see how people react,

1572
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 2: they start to see that they are using it in

1573
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:40,760
Speaker 2: it as a placeholder for bitch. They start to see

1574
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:43,479
Speaker 2: that they never refer to men as males. They start

1575
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 2: to see these things and they can't unsee them, and

1576
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 2: then they might come back later and be like, well, damn,

1577
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 2: y'all was right. But you know, they might take years

1578
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 2: for some people. Some people never get around to.

1579
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 3: It, but correct.

1580
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 2: You know, I'm thankful to be able to at least

1581
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 2: challenge people. Like I said, you ain't gotta agree with me.

1582
01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 2: I don't agree with everybody. I listen to a lot

1583
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 2: of friends. I don't agree with on everything. I still

1584
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 2: love the motherfuckers, but but you know, friends and family

1585
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:08,680
Speaker 2: and shit. But at the same time, like, I'm not

1586
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 2: gonna just let it go on challenge new to podcast

1587
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 2: and Chris Wright saying hello, Rrid and Cara. Name is Chris.

1588
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 2: I'm deciding to become a podcaster. I've been listening to

1589
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 2: you both for a long time. I don't wanted to

1590
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 2: know if you have any advice someone just starting out

1591
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:25,760
Speaker 2: in the podcast seeing main thing I would say one consistency.

1592
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 2: I hate to say the boring one first, but that's

1593
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:30,679
Speaker 2: the truth. Find you a schedule that you can stick

1594
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 2: to if it's once a week. Put that shit out

1595
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:34,639
Speaker 2: once a week. If it's twice a week, twice a week,

1596
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:37,679
Speaker 2: it's once a month, once a month. Don't fucking skip,

1597
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 2: don't promise and not deliver, picking you a time and

1598
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 2: all that stuff. Don't be too hard on yourself. Your

1599
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 2: show's gonna adjust as you adjust. You know, as you

1600
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 2: learn more. To sound quality, you're gonna want to have

1601
01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 2: good sound quality, nake. You might not be a to

1602
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:56,640
Speaker 2: afford great sound quality right away. Get the best you

1603
01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:59,560
Speaker 2: can afford. Do your research, take your time. You know,

1604
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 2: there's some good alternatives out there, blue snowball mics. Uh,

1605
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 2: some laptops have good built in mics, So you know

1606
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:10,360
Speaker 2: the way you produce it. Afterwards, learn your craft. What

1607
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 2: tools are you gonna use? What what what programs are

1608
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:17,599
Speaker 2: you gonna use? Audacity, things of this nature, And then

1609
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 2: U I would say, also, don't be too rigid to

1610
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 2: to what your show is gonna be. A show is

1611
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:31,679
Speaker 2: like a living, breathing document, and it'll change over time,

1612
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 2: and it's never gonna be what you started out doing.

1613
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:36,560
Speaker 2: It's you know, some people have very clear ideas and

1614
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:38,800
Speaker 2: they can do that forever, but most of those people

1615
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 2: have already done a podcast or too, and then and

1616
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 2: then they get this idea of like and now this

1617
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 2: show is only gonna be about this, But if you

1618
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:48,679
Speaker 2: haven't done the show before, your show is probably gonna

1619
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 2: change every week and be engaging to your fan base.

1620
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 2: Start where you can go, like if if you have

1621
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 2: a few followers on Twitter, promote it on Twitter, you

1622
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:01,720
Speaker 2: have some Facebook and Facebook page if you you know,

1623
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 2: if it's on a message board, tell the people your

1624
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 2: friends on a message board, like, start where you can go,

1625
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:08,439
Speaker 2: and then don't get too frustrated because it takes a

1626
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:10,599
Speaker 2: long time for the shit to pop off, especially now

1627
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 2: there's so many podcasts. Everybody got a podcast, podcast, a

1628
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:17,720
Speaker 2: new blog, So there's a chance that your shit may

1629
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:19,679
Speaker 2: or may not even blow up. If that's the whole

1630
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:22,400
Speaker 2: point of getting into it, to make it blow up,

1631
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 2: you may become disillusioned very quickly because it's not gonna

1632
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 2: just be immediate engaging right away. Sometimes people get excited

1633
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 2: for the first couple of episodes because like my friend,

1634
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 2: and then you kind of fall into their rotation of

1635
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:37,679
Speaker 2: all the other shit they listen to and do in life,

1636
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 2: and you know, you have to get over that initial

1637
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 2: high of people were listening to Yeah, people may or

1638
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:47,760
Speaker 2: may not listen, you know. So uh yeah, those are

1639
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:48,959
Speaker 2: the things I say, Karen.

1640
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've my list is a little shorter.

1641
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:59,479
Speaker 2: Hold on, you see, I'll add one more. Do it

1642
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 2: for yourself, why caring finds her lists or whatever. Do

1643
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:04,760
Speaker 2: it for yourself too. Don't worry about doing it for

1644
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 2: other people. Be yourself, don't you know. I've seen podcasters

1645
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:11,720
Speaker 2: come and go. They try to put on an act,

1646
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:15,640
Speaker 2: be a personality high behind the screen, name shit like that.

1647
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:18,760
Speaker 2: Like I think the people that I've seen come and

1648
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:21,479
Speaker 2: stay and do it for a long time have been

1649
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:23,639
Speaker 2: people that have been honest and open with the audience.

1650
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 2: Because the one thing you can't fake is that genuine

1651
01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:30,320
Speaker 2: relationship with an audience, right, and way too many people

1652
01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:31,840
Speaker 2: try to fake it, and that's why they shit, don't

1653
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 2: blow up.

1654
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:33,479
Speaker 3: Right, That was one of mine.

1655
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:37,439
Speaker 4: Be yourself, which is the most important thing, because if

1656
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:39,880
Speaker 4: you're not yourself, it won't last. Because the thing is

1657
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 4: particularly if you do it, you do something for any

1658
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 4: longevity a certain period of time. If you're not real

1659
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:47,800
Speaker 4: and you're not sincere, something that your audience is going

1660
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 4: to immediately pick up on regardless if you do it

1661
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 4: a solo show or you do it with the group

1662
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:52,719
Speaker 4: of people.

1663
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:54,600
Speaker 3: Everybody needs to beat themselves.

1664
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 4: And also the second thing is note that you're gonna

1665
01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 4: have ups and downs, and that's in it's hard for

1666
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 4: new podcasts to understand. Know that you're going to have

1667
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:07,680
Speaker 4: technical issues, Understand that everything's not gonna go perfect. Understand

1668
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:10,719
Speaker 4: that things are like Roger said, things are going to change,

1669
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 4: things are gonna involve, You're going to grow, You're going

1670
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:17,760
Speaker 4: to change, You're gonna start talking about various different things. Uh,

1671
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 4: and something else to peekyback on. Let your show flow naturally,

1672
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:24,840
Speaker 4: you know, like right to say, don't be so rigid

1673
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:26,799
Speaker 4: and so not flexible.

1674
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:30,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been on podcasts where it takes them a

1675
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 2: month to put the show out because they gotta do

1676
01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 2: all this editing and shit, you know, or.

1677
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:36,479
Speaker 3: People.

1678
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 2: I listened to a podcast a long time ago when

1679
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 2: podcasts at first started, and Uh, this dude's like, listen

1680
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 2: to my show, listen to my show, and I won't

1681
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 2: listen to it. And it sounded so weird because he

1682
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:50,120
Speaker 2: edited out all the natural moments of silence in your

1683
01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 2: speech pattern, so it sounded like a robot. You know,

1684
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 2: it's like today, I am going to go to the

1685
01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 2: store because we are going to do something. I'm like, bruh,

1686
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 2: I know you didn't say that, like it's okay to

1687
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:03,639
Speaker 2: have a little bit of a I had to think

1688
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:05,679
Speaker 2: of this for a second, so there was a couple

1689
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 2: of seconds of downtime.

1690
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 3: You know.

1691
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:14,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I said, everybody is different and understand that.

1692
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:20,960
Speaker 4: And also my thing is, uh be patient. Uh when

1693
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 4: you podcast, I think, like you said, if you're not

1694
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 4: doing it for yourself, you won't last. That's something I've

1695
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:30,440
Speaker 4: learned to If you're just doing it for the popularity,

1696
01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 4: for the likes or the red clicks and the post,

1697
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 4: you definitely will not last.

1698
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 3: Because you know, the internet is fickled, so you don't

1699
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 3: know what people are going to.

1700
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 2: Like.

1701
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:42,960
Speaker 3: You might talk about whatever the hot topic is and

1702
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 3: you get tons of downloads and then next week you'll

1703
01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 3: be back to whatever your normal number.

1704
01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:50,600
Speaker 4: Your normal number is, you just won't have any consistency

1705
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 4: when it comes to that. But you need to be consistent,

1706
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 4: and just know you being consistent will cause your audience

1707
01:23:57,680 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 4: to grow.

1708
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:00,639
Speaker 3: Over time.

1709
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 4: You know, these are things that we've kind of just

1710
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 4: you know, warm just being up and down. Oh you

1711
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:08,799
Speaker 4: know me, just the ups and down of a podcasting.

1712
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 2: So yeah, man, Hopefully that helps Chris and good luck

1713
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 2: on your podcasting journey. Mark writes saying, punkin Spice my

1714
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:22,559
Speaker 2: life like punkin Spice life, my nigga brother Rod, Happy Thanksgiving.

1715
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 2: I just wanted to say thank you for liberating me. Hey,

1716
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:27,679
Speaker 2: you're welcome. Okay, come on over to the white woman

1717
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:30,800
Speaker 2: the color side. Come on, I'm on a Thanksgiving break

1718
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:32,559
Speaker 2: in Cali with the fam, and thanks to you, I'm

1719
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 2: living my best white woman of color life. Yes, early

1720
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:37,759
Speaker 2: this morning, me and my girl put on our running shoes,

1721
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 2: Nike dry Fits, shorts and tights, and then we joined

1722
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:42,640
Speaker 2: in on a five k run. Come on, come on

1723
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,639
Speaker 2: through five k. Afterwards, we went to a local coffee

1724
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 2: shop and ordered egg white crapes and then it happened,

1725
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 2: As it happens, I instinctively ordered a punkin Spice litte

1726
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:54,800
Speaker 2: and bruh. I will never be the same again, testify.

1727
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:58,559
Speaker 2: Come on, bro, thanks Roder Cab. Tomorrow we are heading

1728
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 2: up to San Francisco to go wine tasting.

1729
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:02,080
Speaker 3: Yes, wine tasted.

1730
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:03,720
Speaker 2: We would have on the patch of go on your

1731
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:07,919
Speaker 2: jackets because it would be chilly out Marcus Darling from Queens.

1732
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:10,280
Speaker 3: Oh but the Gone, I don't even know what that is,

1733
01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 3: but it sounds white.

1734
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:13,760
Speaker 2: Shout out to Mark. That's what I'm talking about. It's

1735
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:16,639
Speaker 2: about time, Yes, tell some more.

1736
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 3: Y'all tell us about y'all. A lot of y'all are shamed.

1737
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 4: Don't be a shame, honey, because when I tell you

1738
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 4: I was in Jamaica, I was my best white woman

1739
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 4: of colored life and I encourage y'all to too, Honey.

1740
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 3: It will change your world.

1741
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:33,679
Speaker 2: Welcome to the white Woman of Colored section. Feedback, Emil

1742
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:38,320
Speaker 2: says Feedback Jamaica, Jamaica, Hay Tipping Morrows. I thoroughly enjoyed

1743
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:41,759
Speaker 2: Karen synopsis of a Jamaica tip trip. It was cool

1744
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 2: hearing about Jamaica of Jamaica vacation from a black perspective.

1745
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 2: I've been in Canada for about sixteen years, and I

1746
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 2: like my relatives that grew up there. I never lived

1747
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:51,920
Speaker 2: in any black communities in Canada, so whenever I've told

1748
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 2: people white people cough cough, that I'm from Jamaica, I

1749
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:57,799
Speaker 2: always get a quick five minutes about the great vacation

1750
01:25:57,960 --> 01:25:59,600
Speaker 2: that they had a couple of years ago where they

1751
01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 2: got their hair braided and never left the resort, or

1752
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 2: about how much they love cool Running's damn you, Duggie

1753
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:07,479
Speaker 2: doug All that to say, it was great to hear

1754
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:11,720
Speaker 2: that you went somewhere like a company a comepong the

1755
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:15,240
Speaker 2: Maroon village, and that you guys stayed in villas instead

1756
01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:17,799
Speaker 2: of the huge structure on the beach. I completely related

1757
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:20,120
Speaker 2: to the fact that the staff was more relaxed to

1758
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:21,960
Speaker 2: your group than they might have been with a white group.

1759
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 2: I've had friends that have worked in hospitality have gotten

1760
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 2: fired or reprimanded it to really because of complaints from

1761
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 2: some white American that may have misinterpreted our brand of friendliness. Yeah,

1762
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 2: I could. Plus they probably just think y'all supposed to

1763
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 2: be sitting on them hands and you know, waiting on

1764
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:38,639
Speaker 2: them hand and foot.

1765
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1766
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:43,320
Speaker 4: And it's one of those things where you know, because

1767
01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 4: they asked Marissa and listen, you know, how the staff was,

1768
01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 4: and they look like the staff and you know it's fine,

1769
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:51,640
Speaker 4: like you know, like it's not a problem, but you know,

1770
01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 4: it's one of those things. But the checked just to

1771
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:55,280
Speaker 4: be sure, you know that everything's on the you know,

1772
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 4: quote unquote open up.

1773
01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:58,360
Speaker 3: But they didn't have to worry. I mean, the people

1774
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:01,920
Speaker 3: were very professional and one of those things like like

1775
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 3: you say, uh for us, I this that trip. Let

1776
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:09,400
Speaker 3: me know that uh.

1777
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:16,000
Speaker 4: Doing the traditional touristy stuff, you go, that's cool, but

1778
01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:18,400
Speaker 4: you don't get the actual experience, like I think, because

1779
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 4: it's people that said I went to Jamaica before I

1780
01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:23,360
Speaker 4: experienced that, probably because you went through the traditional touristy.

1781
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:26,559
Speaker 3: Thing and it was cool to go outside of that box. Yeah.

1782
01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:30,720
Speaker 2: But you know, also, I mean, there's no better white

1783
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 2: woman to color way than to do the traditional tourist stuff.

1784
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:35,519
Speaker 2: So guys don't either way, you can't go wrong. Yeah,

1785
01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:38,560
Speaker 2: either be ignorant, you know, forget the staff's name, do

1786
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:40,880
Speaker 2: all that stuff if you want to, you know. But

1787
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:43,479
Speaker 2: I mean I personally would treat the black staff knights,

1788
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:45,960
Speaker 2: but I also understands the white woman to color it's optional.

1789
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:49,960
Speaker 2: I also wanted to ask you, guys, if if you

1790
01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:51,920
Speaker 2: felt comfortable being in the space that was not even

1791
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 2: saying black. I always knew I was black in the

1792
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 2: physical sense, but never had to feel blackness until I

1793
01:27:56,920 --> 01:28:00,680
Speaker 2: was a minority. All my teachers, doctors, Denniss, etcetera. At

1794
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 2: school looked like me. All the authority figures were black.

1795
01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:04,599
Speaker 2: Did you get a sense of that in your short

1796
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 2: time there with me?

1797
01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 3: Yes?

1798
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:12,400
Speaker 4: It made me going days without being around any white

1799
01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:13,680
Speaker 4: people whatsoever.

1800
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 3: Was refreshing.

1801
01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:18,200
Speaker 6: I learned that.

1802
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 4: As an American being someone that was black black and

1803
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:28,200
Speaker 4: black black like that made you realize how strong our

1804
01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:30,720
Speaker 4: people are, how resume our people are, and.

1805
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:35,400
Speaker 3: How they try to not make us want to unify.

1806
01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:38,080
Speaker 4: Because, like I said, there's always power numbers. When black

1807
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 4: people are like self sufficient, can do shit on their own,

1808
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:45,559
Speaker 4: and can just function like normal people, it white people

1809
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:47,840
Speaker 4: get scared because all of a sudden, you don't have

1810
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:50,720
Speaker 4: no control. You can't you know, beat them into place,

1811
01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:52,920
Speaker 4: You can't make them do what you want them to do,

1812
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:55,360
Speaker 4: because they were like, hey, we got freedoms, Like what

1813
01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 4: you ain't gonna do is come up in here and

1814
01:28:57,200 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 4: do this and do that and the other, and white

1815
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:03,720
Speaker 4: people just can't have range. It made me appreciate my blackness.

1816
01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:06,680
Speaker 4: It made me feel more comfortable than my blackness. It

1817
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:11,600
Speaker 4: helped me love myself more, particularly going and it was

1818
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:13,080
Speaker 4: all women and no men.

1819
01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:19,840
Speaker 3: It helped me connect with women more.

1820
01:29:20,120 --> 01:29:24,440
Speaker 4: Just being around the shapes, the sizes, the colors, the background,

1821
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 4: the different religions, and I just learned how to embrace

1822
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:31,679
Speaker 4: things and actually helped me love myself more and actually

1823
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:37,400
Speaker 4: appreciate my skin tone and appreciate my blackness and love

1824
01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:39,800
Speaker 4: my hair more, and love my hips more and my

1825
01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:44,640
Speaker 4: skin tone even the more because I was in the

1826
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 4: place where I wasn't being judged. I was in the

1827
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 4: place where I wasn't being criticized. I was in the

1828
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:52,800
Speaker 4: place where I wasn't stared as other. I was in

1829
01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:55,040
Speaker 4: the place where I could walk into place and people

1830
01:29:55,040 --> 01:29:57,240
Speaker 4: wouldn't afraid I was gonna fucking rob the place I

1831
01:29:57,320 --> 01:30:00,560
Speaker 4: could walk and just be free in my blo blackness.

1832
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:05,080
Speaker 4: And that is something, and that is a feeling that

1833
01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:10,880
Speaker 4: you just cannot describe here in America, the truth be told.

1834
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:14,599
Speaker 4: And I just really love being in a place where

1835
01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:17,560
Speaker 4: everybody looked at me and there was a connection and

1836
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:22,240
Speaker 4: there was a form of no judgment, and I really

1837
01:30:23,240 --> 01:30:28,680
Speaker 4: it really made me view my blackness differently than I

1838
01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:32,400
Speaker 4: would have before, because, yeah, you know, you know, black

1839
01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:34,360
Speaker 4: people are all over the place and all over the world,

1840
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:38,040
Speaker 4: but it's nothing like you're going there and literally everywhere

1841
01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 4: you go from the corner store to the bus stop

1842
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:45,560
Speaker 4: to everywhere is just black people and a lot of

1843
01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 4: times not a white person inside of they do their

1844
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:49,280
Speaker 4: little spots.

1845
01:30:49,640 --> 01:30:50,519
Speaker 3: They're a minority.

1846
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:52,960
Speaker 4: You know. That's rare from I can say as an

1847
01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:55,040
Speaker 4: American that I see because here in America we're not

1848
01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:55,880
Speaker 4: structured like that.

1849
01:30:56,400 --> 01:31:00,080
Speaker 3: So for me, it was a really a life.

1850
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:03,559
Speaker 4: Changing experience to me personally, just to be around all

1851
01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 4: that blackness.

1852
01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:06,920
Speaker 2: He goes on to say, I'll leave you with a

1853
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:09,800
Speaker 2: bit tid bit of history. Discovery Bay and Runaway Bay

1854
01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:12,520
Speaker 2: are two areas of the North Coast of historical significance.

1855
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:14,680
Speaker 2: Discovery Bay is what Christopher Columbus, who was said to

1856
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:18,519
Speaker 2: have discovered Jamaica, landed in fourteen ninety four. He claimed

1857
01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:21,000
Speaker 2: Jamaica for the Spanish like it was his to claim,

1858
01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:24,320
Speaker 2: but anyway, then proceeded to genocide the native population and

1859
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:28,479
Speaker 2: bring slaves in. The British during the War with Spain

1860
01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:30,880
Speaker 2: and the sixteen hundreds invaded Jamaica and took it as

1861
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:34,439
Speaker 2: their own. The Spanish fled to Cuba from Runaway Bay,

1862
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:39,840
Speaker 2: hence the name oh Okay, taking some of the slaves

1863
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:42,560
Speaker 2: who subsequently won their freedom in Cuba. The majority of

1864
01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:48,439
Speaker 2: slaves that were unsought enslaved by the Spanish escaped to

1865
01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:51,280
Speaker 2: the mountains and became the Maroons. The Maroons were thrown

1866
01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:52,960
Speaker 2: in the side of the British for over a century,

1867
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:55,040
Speaker 2: forcing them the side of treaty with them. The only

1868
01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:56,960
Speaker 2: downside to the treaty was that they would no longer

1869
01:31:57,040 --> 01:31:59,559
Speaker 2: raid British plantations of free people and slave by the British.

1870
01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:02,479
Speaker 2: In fact, Britain but bolished a slave trade at eighteen

1871
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:05,800
Speaker 2: thirty eight. The free slave the free and freedom slaved

1872
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:08,760
Speaker 2: Africans in their colonies. They paid millions of reparations. No,

1873
01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:11,080
Speaker 2: not to us, but to slave owners who lost all

1874
01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:13,760
Speaker 2: their property. Sorry for the long email. I thought you

1875
01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:16,400
Speaker 2: guys will have an interest in that ps. I was

1876
01:32:16,479 --> 01:32:18,679
Speaker 2: just about to hit send when I saw the notification

1877
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:22,280
Speaker 2: for a new TVGWT episode Fast Feedback. So obviously I

1878
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:24,200
Speaker 2: didn't get this in under the wire, so I had

1879
01:32:24,240 --> 01:32:26,479
Speaker 2: to wait a week. Ols. Well you got it in

1880
01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:27,840
Speaker 2: and now we read it.

1881
01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:29,040
Speaker 3: Thank you baby.

1882
01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:33,200
Speaker 2: Last one Kimberly right saying, Hey, Rod and Queen Karen,

1883
01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:35,400
Speaker 2: this message is long overdue and I almost forgot the

1884
01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:37,880
Speaker 2: center for the feedback show. I'm going to try to

1885
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:40,280
Speaker 2: keep it short, Karen. I was stalking your Facebook and

1886
01:32:40,320 --> 01:32:42,120
Speaker 2: Instagram while you were in Jamaica, you were living your

1887
01:32:42,160 --> 01:32:44,640
Speaker 2: best White Woman of Color life. I'll be there to

1888
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:46,800
Speaker 2: bring in the new year, and I'm so excited. I'm

1889
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:49,479
Speaker 2: sure we'll just stay on the resort and drink, but

1890
01:32:49,560 --> 01:32:52,360
Speaker 2: if we decided to do an excursion, I have some recommendations.

1891
01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:54,920
Speaker 2: Thanks to you. I'm glad you enjoyed the glistening body

1892
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:57,800
Speaker 2: or I didn't even know citrus keeps the mosquitos away.

1893
01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:00,280
Speaker 2: I'm ordering some lemons sent for my trip with my

1894
01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:02,200
Speaker 2: with her small business Saturday.

1895
01:33:02,320 --> 01:33:03,599
Speaker 3: Sell Rod.

1896
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:05,519
Speaker 2: I'm a little behind on the podcast as usual, but

1897
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:08,120
Speaker 2: I hope the bank put that money back in your account. Oh,

1898
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:09,960
Speaker 2: I got my money back. I hated to hear about that.

1899
01:33:10,160 --> 01:33:13,080
Speaker 2: The past two years, my AMX has been compromised both

1900
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:15,519
Speaker 2: times in March. Both times I was about to travel.

1901
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:18,040
Speaker 2: I was it was inconvenience, but I can't imagine having

1902
01:33:18,360 --> 01:33:20,599
Speaker 2: that much money coming out of my bank account right.

1903
01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:22,599
Speaker 2: I have so much more to say, but I'm running

1904
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:24,680
Speaker 2: late for spending class. Oh, get your White Woman to

1905
01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:29,080
Speaker 2: Color life on. Love you guys, Thanks Cam, and that's everything. Yes,

1906
01:33:29,479 --> 01:33:33,000
Speaker 2: thank you break so all right, guys, thank you so

1907
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:36,040
Speaker 2: much for listening. I'll be back on it for with

1908
01:33:36,200 --> 01:33:39,560
Speaker 2: Bosse to do I recap of This is Us. So

1909
01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:43,080
Speaker 2: I'll see you hardcore fans then uh for the rest

1910
01:33:43,120 --> 01:33:45,800
Speaker 2: of you sometime wishould watch your motherfuckers it. Don't leave

1911
01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:49,320
Speaker 2: five star reviews. I won't see you at all tomorrow,

1912
01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:51,320
Speaker 2: see y'all tomorrow, but until then, I love you.

1913
01:33:51,439 --> 01:33:51,960
Speaker 3: I love you too.