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Speaker 2: You notice you don't championship. That should always do the expectation.

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Speaker 1: All right, man, at you go ahead. Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: Richard Sherman Podcast. I'm joined here by an incredible guest,

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Speaker 1: Rasul Douglas of the Buffalo Bills. Appreciate you joining me.

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Speaker 1: How you feeling. How you doing.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing good, man, I'm doing all good. Man, body

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Speaker 3: feel good. I don't really feel like it's week thirteen.

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Speaker 2: So that's a good thing. Knock on that wood, baby,

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Speaker 2: that's a great thing. That's a great thing.

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Speaker 1: I gotta talk to you about because you know, you

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Speaker 1: obviously had success when you when you got drafted to Philly,

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Speaker 1: you was good. You know, I don't know what really

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Speaker 1: happened after Philly, but you kind of bounced around a

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Speaker 1: little bit and DM faun got to Green Bay and

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Speaker 1: start eating immediately.

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Speaker 2: Talk talk me.

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Speaker 1: Through that little that that transitional period, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, what your mindset was like, what kept you going?

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Speaker 2: What kept you consistent? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: So I mean after I went to Carolina for a

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Speaker 3: year in twenty twenty, and then after that I decided

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Speaker 3: to take a chance on myself with Raiders, went through

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Speaker 3: a period with the raids with them, got into a

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Speaker 3: kind of altercation fistfight playing the Rams on the joint practice,

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Speaker 3: got released, then went down to Houston for like two days,

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Speaker 3: the Arizona, I was kind of on a practice squad

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Speaker 3: for about five six weeks, just coach telling me, you know,

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Speaker 3: just keep learning to play, but we're gonna bring you up.

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Speaker 3: I was practicing, competing, and then I went home for

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Speaker 3: a weekend and I came back and they were just like, oh,

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Speaker 3: bring your iPad in Green Bay, picked you up, and

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Speaker 3: then just went to Green Bay.

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Speaker 2: But my mindset the whole time was just work.

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Speaker 3: I mean I was I was not happy with where

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Speaker 3: I was being on a practice squad being every day.

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Speaker 2: You know how practice squad is.

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Speaker 3: We want you to want you to go with this route,

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Speaker 3: we can throw this, we want this your disheleverage, you know,

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Speaker 3: just tap me up and failure.

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Speaker 2: And but I always looked at.

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Speaker 3: It like I'm just gonna compete because at the end

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Speaker 3: of the day, these are starters I'm playing against. So

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Speaker 3: I was going against the hop. I was going against

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Speaker 3: a j Green Christian Kirk, you know, random Moore, than

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Speaker 3: I was and kind of merged. So I was just like, well,

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Speaker 3: it's still time for me to get better. I can

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Speaker 3: it just coaches was like, man, I see how you play.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to change how you play, but let

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Speaker 3: every time I get a chance to, I was like, man,

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Speaker 3: I appreciate you for, you know, believing in me taking

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Speaker 3: a chance because terum, you know how it is in

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Speaker 3: the league. If you behind a guy who makes a

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Speaker 2: He comes back, that's still his spot.

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Speaker 3: And then in Green Bay, they was like, nah, well

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Speaker 3: we play the guys who are playing who played well, uh,

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Speaker 3: and we don't really care about the money situation. Will

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Speaker 3: handle that when it's trying to handle that. And they

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Speaker 3: that and them just getting better to me the game

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Speaker 3: teach me how to watch film for real, because I

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Speaker 3: So it kind of helped my career. And once that happened,

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Speaker 3: it's just been taking off from there.

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Speaker 2: It's been taking off.

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Speaker 1: It seems like you played with so much confidence out there,

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Speaker 1: you booking everybody.

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Speaker 1: Obviously y'all lost a lot of leadership last year. It

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Speaker 2: Talk me through your journey, because I'm gonna take you back.

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Speaker 2: I want to.

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Speaker 1: I want to go to the community college you went

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Speaker 1: to and then you going to West Virginia, because that's

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Speaker 2: What happened? Why why didn't you go straight out of

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Speaker 3: I only played my junior my high school and I

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Speaker 3: And then this this coach Curtison Billiam. He kept calling

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Speaker 2: A couple of years. The guys that went to your

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Speaker 3: So I'm like, okay, okay. He's like, man, have you

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Speaker 3: He was like, man, can I just get you to

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Speaker 2: And I was like, man like.

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Speaker 3: Like, who from here goes places? And I was like, man,

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Speaker 3: I asked him a few colleges, I said, they come here.

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Speaker 2: And then we had Lance, who rest in peace. He

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Speaker 3: He had like Alabama and stuff, and we had a

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Speaker 2: You got a fee for it. I switched the corner.

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Speaker 3: And then I just blew up. But Jerky Colls was

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Speaker 2: I regret telling the story.

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Speaker 3: I don't really want to tell it, but I'll tell it.

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Speaker 2: Tell if you regret, but it's not it's not crazy.

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Speaker 3: But I always just feel bad when I think about

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Speaker 3: And then like we if you're in New York, they

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Speaker 3: so it's basically paying double to go to school. So

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Speaker 3: I'm from Jerry, so I'm paying double. And I remember

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Speaker 3: I'm like I'm done, like I quit, like you know

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Speaker 3: Like my grandmother she ain't really recognized when she spent me.

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Speaker 3: I was kimmy, like I done, got to like one

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Speaker 3: I was like I'm done, and I'm took a cab

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Speaker 2: I think that he was testing me, like do you

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Speaker 3: Because I think people say it's something they run and

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Speaker 3: then they signed the terms and conditions and then it's

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Speaker 3: So I think he was he was just asking me like, Okay, well,

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Speaker 2: So I was like, man, I'm gonna go down there

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Speaker 2: and be a mountaineer.

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Speaker 1: Bro. Bro, I don't know, I don't know what You're

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Speaker 1: ashamed of in that story, I got chill bump.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm looking at my arms, got the.

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Speaker 1: Goosebumps because it's a real life story of like like nah,

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Speaker 1: like you know, because you didn't quit, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, what you did was had doubt for a day,

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Speaker 3: than not. And then he just keeps on. So it's

434
00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,680
Speaker 3: a tough situation right there. It's a tough situation. And

435
00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,480
Speaker 3: that's what people never look like when you play defense.

436
00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,840
Speaker 3: I hate to make the analogy because people don't understand it,

437
00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,440
Speaker 3: but you gonna understand. It's like being a black man

438
00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:11,960
Speaker 3: in America.

439
00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,600
Speaker 1: Boy, you're like ever, you're guilty until proven innocent every

440
00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,399
Speaker 1: single time. And you be sitting there, they'd be like,

441
00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,960
Speaker 1: you're looking at a play and they slow mowed you

442
00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:22,479
Speaker 1: hand fighting with the receiver.

443
00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,640
Speaker 2: He pulling your neck, he pushing.

444
00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,280
Speaker 1: Your head, and you're trying to go off for the ball,

445
00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,920
Speaker 1: and they're like, that's defensive passing inference. I said, y'all,

446
00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,679
Speaker 1: when that boy stiff on me in the face and

447
00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,040
Speaker 1: caught the ball, y'all just said, that's a great player.

448
00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,359
Speaker 2: And y'all say nothing. I ain't gonna say nothing about that,

449
00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:37,240
Speaker 2: not a thing.

450
00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,080
Speaker 1: And that's the hard part for me is it's hard

451
00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,040
Speaker 1: enough to play defense as is. Now y'all saying, don't

452
00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,240
Speaker 1: land on the quarterback, y'all saying every better hand fighting.

453
00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,920
Speaker 1: If it ain't the receiver, then it's it's a penalty.

454
00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:53,640
Speaker 1: And then then you can't hit nobody. Now Now it's

455
00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,080
Speaker 1: like I'm aiming for your chest and then you duck

456
00:18:56,160 --> 00:19:00,240
Speaker 1: down to brace up. I hit you in the head.

457
00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,800
Speaker 1: Now you'all trying to suspend me. And it's like taking

458
00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:04,560
Speaker 1: money off. You know, they're taking that money. They know,

459
00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:06,439
Speaker 1: they know, you know, they're like, man, that's all they

460
00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:07,120
Speaker 1: care about is money.

461
00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,040
Speaker 3: That's the only way we get on them, find his

462
00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,560
Speaker 3: ass that that's just how they that's how they think

463
00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:12,680
Speaker 3: they're gonna take that money.

464
00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,600
Speaker 2: They don't do anything else. They're gonna take that money.

465
00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,560
Speaker 2: They're gonna take it every single time. That's the moment.

466
00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,800
Speaker 1: Even these even these like what do they call them,

467
00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,280
Speaker 1: the tackles that they don't like the hip drop. Hip

468
00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,000
Speaker 1: drop They just made a word for that.

469
00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,639
Speaker 3: They literally just that was not a word until like

470
00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,120
Speaker 3: somebody like, oh that like a hip drop?

471
00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:30,879
Speaker 2: Tack? Now is a hip drop? They bandon and they

472
00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:32,840
Speaker 2: ain't call it yet. The whole year. No, they because

473
00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:38,000
Speaker 2: you can't call it. It's impossible, Like it's impossible. It's impossible. Bro.

474
00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,159
Speaker 3: You don't want nobody tackling people low because they take

475
00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,040
Speaker 3: away they a c L M c L. You don't

476
00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,439
Speaker 3: want people going high because they can cush in. Now

477
00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,560
Speaker 3: you want you to hip job tackle. Eventually, you might

478
00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,360
Speaker 3: as well start pulling out the flag and just say

479
00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,000
Speaker 3: take the flag of that guy back.

480
00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,000
Speaker 2: And then you see they they transferring that to like

481
00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:52,720
Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl.

482
00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,480
Speaker 3: I won't be surprised in a few years and they

483
00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,679
Speaker 3: just like, you know what, let's just take all of

484
00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:58,800
Speaker 3: it out and let's just do that.

485
00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,640
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised. Shit with quarterbacks, I'm with you.

486
00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,640
Speaker 2: I'm with you. You can't touch the quarterback. You can't. Man.

487
00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,239
Speaker 2: They like divers out there now and they know they

488
00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:08,399
Speaker 2: can't get hit and they know it.

489
00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,240
Speaker 1: They be sitting there any time they get touched, they're

490
00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:14,199
Speaker 1: looking at the ref like you, yeah, state name. But

491
00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about one of your teammates because first off,

492
00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,520
Speaker 1: I don't know how you as his veteran, letting him

493
00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:23,000
Speaker 1: walk around with forty seven on. But Christian Benford is

494
00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,560
Speaker 1: playing some good football with in that stank number. And

495
00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:30,400
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Christian. I mean this in the most complimentary way.

496
00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,679
Speaker 1: It's gonna be hard for you to get any credit

497
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,840
Speaker 1: that you deserve until you until you get off the

498
00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,479
Speaker 1: phone set.

499
00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,119
Speaker 3: But he but he know that though, Like it's not

500
00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,119
Speaker 3: like he don't know that. He know that his number

501
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,800
Speaker 3: is like, but it's his number. He feels like, you know,

502
00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,560
Speaker 3: he want to make that number different. And I told him,

503
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,840
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, that's good because now you can't get

504
00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 3: out of it now, you.

505
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 2: Know, like you got to you gotta stick with it.

506
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:54,080
Speaker 2: That got to be your number for the rest of

507
00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 2: your life.

508
00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,359
Speaker 3: But bro, like he's a he's a good person, you know,

509
00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,080
Speaker 3: he's a better person than football player.

510
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,440
Speaker 2: Like he does he does the right things. He don't

511
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 2: really talk too much.

512
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,960
Speaker 3: He he just worked, you know, And and it's every

513
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 3: day he trying to be better, like oh, asking to

514
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 3: be coach, pushing his though at the practice. We out

515
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 3: there for maybe forty five minutes every day at the practice.

516
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,080
Speaker 3: It's getting worked on on stuff that we need or

517
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,280
Speaker 3: anything that we might have messed up on in practice,

518
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 3: you know. And he just got that mentality like like

519
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 3: I'm a dog and I gotta I gotta play that

520
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 3: way every time, you know, just because I'm a I'm

521
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,640
Speaker 3: a tough round pick, you know what I mean. So

522
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 3: that's that's just how he played. But man, he's a

523
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,439
Speaker 3: he's a hell of a player. He's definitely having like

524
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,200
Speaker 3: an all Pro season for sure.

525
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 1: No question is he's he freaking balling.

526
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 2: Early in the season, we had y'all Miami.

527
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 1: It might have been maybe first game and he might

528
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 1: have had a pick six in the game mistake.

529
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:45,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he picked Miami up.

530
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he it was just a four to seven,

531
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,280
Speaker 1: And I think y'all had another dude out there in

532
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,120
Speaker 1: four eight or six for six, that's what it was.

533
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 1: They both I think diff had two and he the

534
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 1: other four six had one.

535
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 2: No stick that too, and Beffer had one.

536
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 3: Okay, vices yeah, vice versa, Yeah, yeah, yeah, they both

537
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 3: got them numbers.

538
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know, but I don't think

539
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:08,919
Speaker 2: they changing them either. They gonna keep.

540
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 1: Them right right, They're gonna keep getting targeted as long

541
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 1: as they they punished them. Though that there's been any

542
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 1: talks about an extension for you in Buffalo, I think

543
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,639
Speaker 1: I think they've been talking to my agent about it.

544
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,119
Speaker 3: They didn't really mentioned nothing to me yet, but I

545
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 3: think they've been talking to my agent.

546
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 2: I know last year beginn it. This year the season,

547
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 2: they was talking about it, that they wanted to.

548
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 3: Get something done. But we'll see what's going on after

549
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 3: the season. Probably right now I'm thinking bigger than you. Yeah,

550
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 3: I'm this the year. I feel like we could do

551
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 3: something good. So I'm just trying to put my all

552
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 3: into that at the moment.

553
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 1: As you should. That's how it's supposed to be. I

554
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,360
Speaker 1: ain't trying to try to start nothing, but you're gonna

555
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,719
Speaker 1: get with you. I hope you get everything you deserve

556
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 1: it more talk about the Bill's mafia, because they crazy.

557
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 2: You went from Green Bay, who got some really crazy.

558
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,880
Speaker 1: And they own the team and all this other stuff,

559
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 1: and they really incredible passion fans. But then you got

560
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,919
Speaker 1: the Bills fans, and they a whole different level of

561
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,399
Speaker 1: passion and energy and dedication. They coming up snow to

562
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 1: plow the field for free.

563
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 3: I still don't understand that, to this day, I don't

564
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 3: understand that a billion dollar company got fans out there

565
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 3: snowing it.

566
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't.

567
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 3: I don't understand it. But the fans they love, they

568
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 3: love the Bills. Man, they'll they'll do anything for the Bills.

569
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 3: It's so much love with the fans. They be jumping

570
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 3: off tables, they coming to the game, no shirt on,

571
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 3: no nothing, and they just they just love.

572
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,959
Speaker 2: They love Buffalo. They love everything about it.

573
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 3: And that's why, like we got it, we gotta give

574
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 3: them something, you know what I mean, A love forever,

575
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 3: something something big that they'll love forever.

576
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 2: This city might blow up.

577
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 3: I keep telling people, if we do it big this

578
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 3: time next year, we're gonna be the Toronto Bills.

579
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 2: They ain't gonna be It ain't gonna be the damn Buffalo.

580
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 2: No more. Buffalo will be gone.

581
00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 3: It's gonna be New York and be nothing. The guys

582
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 3: don't just without worry about nobody being better than New York.

583
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 3: It's just gonna be Theronson. Boy, they're gonna be. They're

584
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 3: gonna be building statues of y'all.

585
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 2: Boys. I tell you, I'll tell you, are you gonna

586
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 2: you know?

587
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 1: If everything goes as is, it's not jinx nothing, it's

588
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 1: not say no crazy words. But if everything goes like

589
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 1: you wanted to, when your dreams come true and there's

590
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 1: a trophy in Buffalo.

591
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 3: You jumping through a table. I job jumped through it

592
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 3: down table. I jump out with the fan. I'll let

593
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 3: them pick my ass up and throw me. I I

594
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 3: jump out there with him. Tell you I would. I

595
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 3: don't care. At this point he's over, but I do

596
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 3: whatever at that point. That's too funny. Man, who's your

597
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,679
Speaker 3: who is your favorite corner to like study?

598
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 2: Growing up?

599
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 1: You know, everybody got a different you know, when you

600
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 1: was coming up, it was probably you know, they had

601
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: the old heads in there, but Reeves was probably in

602
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 1: his prime at that point. Charles just one defensive player

603
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: of the year. Who were the guys you were studying

604
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 1: or trying to emulate or if it was nobody, then

605
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: it's nobody.

606
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 3: So I'll be honest. When I first started playing football,

607
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 3: and Reed was like my favorite player ever. So I

608
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 3: always liked this game because I always liked them getting

609
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 3: picked and never like falling, like just running it no

610
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 3: matter if in the back of the end zone anywhere, right.

611
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 3: I grew up liking him. I like Charles Charles Wisson was.

612
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 3: I liked him a lot. And then like what I said,

613
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 3: like when I really started like playing football and I

614
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 3: actually it was probably like my junior senior year was

615
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 3: probably around twenty twelve thirteen.

616
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 2: When I start getting there to like it, I would

617
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 2: say you, I appreciate it.

618
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 3: I was like it was you because I like that

619
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 3: whole Seattle boom legend, the boom y'all had going on,

620
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 3: and how you play it.

621
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 2: It just seemed like you always knew where the ball

622
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 2: was going.

623
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 3: And then you got picked because some people were like, oh,

624
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 3: what you count you don't get picked.

625
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, the best corners get picked, Like that's

626
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 2: just what they do. It's just what they do. I

627
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 2: don't want to hear you got one pick and you

628
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 2: saying you're the best coint Like there's there's no way, bro,

629
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 2: there's no way. So I always like that about you.

630
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 3: And you tackle it, you know what I mean, Like

631
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 3: some people don't like tackling it, like, so you just

632
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 3: right out and I'm like, shnna, he's gonna talk and

633
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 3: jumped like me, Like I like that he talked, he

634
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 3: gonna back it up. And I always think that I

635
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 3: always liked the most, like he gonna put all the

636
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 3: lights on him, but he gon't perform. So it's like

637
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 3: you can say whatever you want about somebody when they talk,

638
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 3: and they got everybody watching like what do you do?

639
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 2: What do you do? What you do? The the end of

640
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 2: the game, you look.

641
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 3: He got two picks, you got four tackles, and and

642
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,360
Speaker 3: the PPU was like, what could you say?

643
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 2: You could can't say nothing. So I would say that y'all,

644
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 2: y'all three for sure.

645
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Man we put We took a lot

646
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: of pride in it. I mean, obviously y'all taking a

647
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: lot of pride in and y'all got a really good system

648
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: in McDermott, and y'all really trust the scheme.

649
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 2: But that's just what we was doing. You know.

650
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: We had a really good scheme. Even though when you

651
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: know the weaknesses of it and everybody know what you're

652
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 1: gonna be in, y'all can't beat us because we're gonna

653
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 1: play it really well. We're gonna execute, and we smashing

654
00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 1: y'all when y'all touch it. And we practiced hard ever,

655
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: you know, and that's why you come out to practice,

656
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: you want. I think people would be more impressed by

657
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: us if they came to practice than they was in

658
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: the game. Because boys is out there like wolves and

659
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 1: you would think every one of us is practice squad

660
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 1: trying to make the team.

661
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the best thing. Everybody competing, right.

662
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: It led to the organization getting fine and losing draftis sometimes,

663
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 1: but that's their fault.

664
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 2: You shouldn't. They got enough money they can do that.

665
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: They y'all told us to practice hard, give us the

666
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: off season off. Then if y'all don't want to deal

667
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: with this.

668
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 2: No ot a, do nothing. Just just put that a

669
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 2: little bit of cat and that's it. That's it.

670
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: Look, if y'all don't want to get fined about us

671
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 1: be practicing too hard and getting too physical, then gown

672
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 1: head and sit us home and we'll happily go on vacation.

673
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 2: But if you put us on this grass that we got,

674
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 2: it's not supposed to be.

675
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 1: Who's been the toughest receiver to go against for you

676
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: so far this year period? Just overall, I mean, see

677
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 1: you you saw Aj late, but Aj was special, man.

678
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 2: I know I remember watching a little bit when he

679
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 2: was with Sissy. He was cold.

680
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 3: But I still think when I first Jolio Craze, oh Mark,

681
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 3: like I used to be mad guarding him. I'm like, bro,

682
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 3: how you this fast? You stopping on him one two

683
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 3: steps like like just running four speed, twenty.

684
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 2: Five yards out, twenty five yard curls.

685
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, you know after fifteen yards, I'm ready,

686
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 3: I'm running to go for it.

687
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 2: Got to be in the air. He hot time.

688
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, man, no needs But he he always was,

689
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 3: like I say, like the toughest him.

690
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 2: He was tough Tate. Tate was tough Adams he was

691
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 2: tough guarding because Tay is just so at the line,

692
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 2: so lateral.

693
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 3: Bro, everything just looked it looked the same. It's the

694
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 3: skip all looked flat. Oh it ain't slanting them. And

695
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 3: he gives he give you that a little burth like

696
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 3: take got a burst, you know what I mean? Like

697
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 3: he not fast, like long long speed, but he got

698
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 3: a burst. And that's all he need is one two

699
00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 3: yards and you throw it right over his safe he

700
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 3: handed and then it's nothing you can do. So like that,

701
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 3: that's what he killed everybody at the line and that

702
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 3: little burst. And because you're trying to play his speed

703
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 3: when you're slowing down and that you know, he burst

704
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 3: on you. He was like, oh I wasn't ready to

705
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 3: run yet. Now you gotta try to. Then he gets

706
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 3: you every time. But them two was tough. I always

707
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 3: stay ty reard to guard because he said, he's just

708
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 3: so fast.

709
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 2: If you miss him, it's over, it's over. And you

710
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:22,959
Speaker 2: know what I mean. You never want to get into

711
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 2: a track with him, you know what I mean? So him,

712
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 2: I like.

713
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 3: I like Calvin. I like Calvin really. I think I

714
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 3: think he's a He's a good rod runner too. Every

715
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 3: time he went around, I'll be like, it's nice.

716
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: Right, did you see what Sneed did to him in

717
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: the playoffs slash. When you're familiar with somebody, it give

718
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: you a whole different time.

719
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 3: It's different those practice vibes in the game, like right, yeah, yeah,

720
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 3: I seen that boy.

721
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: That boy Sneve was up there practice like like, hey,

722
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: I told you if we ever see each other in

723
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: the game.

724
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 3: I was like, damn now he had it out. He

725
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 3: had it out for them though. He did it this

726
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 3: then too. He go to ain't thing when they played

727
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 3: Miami this day, he was he was doing that same

728
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 3: exact thing.

729
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: I was like, he can play. He just he was

730
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: just about to get bare. He wouldn't get got his

731
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: money in Tennessee.

732
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 2: But he ain't.

733
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: He ain't never gonna get the credit he deserved, no

734
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: more because you're in Tennessee unfortunately. Yeah, you know how

735
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: Tennessee is. Everybody go over there and they just they

736
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: kind of look just look different. They look different. I mean,

737
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: he got his money, though. I'm happy for anybody getting money. Yeah,

738
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: need that. And what Tennessee don't got no taxes over there.

739
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 2: I don't think they do. You're right, that's good for him.

740
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: Need it all. Needed all. Big fan of your game, man.

741
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming on, appreciate you taking the time.

742
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 2: I know.

743
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: I'm happy to see you balling, happy to see your

744
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: team ball. And even if they beat my former teams,

745
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: you know, after a while, I want everybody to get

746
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: their ring.

747
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

748
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes that because you got to us like that.

749
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: But boy, I tell you what, it ain't nothing worse

750
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: than losing one. So that's that'll be my my little

751
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: advice to you.

752
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 2: Y'all.

753
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,239
Speaker 3: Get that mean that your men will always beat her.

754
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,040
Speaker 3: That face you made when you're saying them through that pit.

755
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 2: I'm down.

756
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: I was damn shocking off. That was shocking all. I said,

757
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, what.

758
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's one thing I never understand.

759
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 3: I always like you know, people always ask you a

760
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 3: sports rig and you always be like, nah, I'm out

761
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 3: there giving it my all. And then you see something

762
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 3: like that and you be like a man, it might

763
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 3: be a little bit, you know, it might be.

764
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 2: Just a little bit. Look, well, clearly I wasn't in

765
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 2: on the rigging. I didn't a strip. Give me a strip.

766
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: That locker room after that game, boy, it was a

767
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: furniture moving in there because it did not make sense. Boy, boys,

768
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: boys played too hard and ship I lost that one

769
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: and we lost the one of my homes them in Miami.

770
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 2: Yep, boy, I tell you, the wind felt good.

771
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: Wind is great, you get your ringing everything, But the

772
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,239
Speaker 1: loss hurt more than wind feel good. So if you

773
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: ever get a chance to play in that game, try

774
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: your best to impose that that understanding into your teammates that, hey,

775
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: you will never forget yourself. Like I don't give a

776
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: damn if you did one thing where you went out

777
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: and had one drink that week, are you are you

778
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: freaking stayed up two hours later or you did whatever

779
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna be going back and second guests and everything

780
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: you did going up into that game because you get

781
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: two weeks. So boys, want to stay routine and staying

782
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: they thing. But once you get to the Super Bowl week,

783
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: it's a whole different thing. There's so much media, there's

784
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: so much anything, and depending on the city, and we

785
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: in New Orleans this year, so it's some stuff to

786
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: do and boys, boys eat food to eat, it's people

787
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: to see and everybody want to get a PC OFU

788
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: and do appearances. And if that's not what you normally do,

789
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: then you probably should stay away from it. But it's

790
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: like for a week, keep your behind still because my

791
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: team is in San Francisco. That's exactly what I told

792
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: the young boys. We get there, they go out the

793
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: first night we get there to Miami, and I'm like, bro, like,

794
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: y'all don't get it, Like y'all y'all went out, Like

795
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: maybe we win this game and y'all don't learn the lesson,

796
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: but we lose, You're gonna be sitting there like was

797
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: it because I went out?

798
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 2: You know?

799
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: Was it because I was partying and drinking and hanging out?

800
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: Like maybe, Like, but you don't even give yourself the

801
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: chance to figure that out. If you go out there

802
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: and make that decision, like if you win a super Bowl,

803
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: it sticks with you for the rest of your life.

804
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 2: If you lose it does the same thing in the

805
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 2: worst way. So sick, sick.

806
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: But I know it's your off day and I appreciate

807
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: you you joining me and spend some time with me

808
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: having Yeah.

809
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 2: Man, you you're you're a heck of a player.

810
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: And if you ever need anything, take my number and

811
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: and we'll stay in contact.

812
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 2: I'll send you my.

813
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: Little two cents if I if I see them, call

814
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: from bs on you r.

815
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 2: Let me know. I'll let you know what I see. Yes, sir,

816
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 2: I appreciate you. I appreciate you

817
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: The volume