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Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants hunts.

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Speaker 2: That's not Giants, dunt come, I get I like it

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Speaker 2: out of my Giants bubble, give me.

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Speaker 3: Some job part of the Giants podcast Network's all.

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Speaker 2: Right, So Gary Reasons. You played the better part of

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Speaker 2: a decade with the Giants, fortunately two super Bowl championships,

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Speaker 2: which is actually great timing on your part. But you

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Speaker 2: look back at it, can you even think about how

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Speaker 1: Well, we knew we had something special.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: It started out with us at eighty four when myself

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Speaker 3: and we saw it right there on the chalkboard. You know,

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Speaker 3: Bill Belichick was doing a great job with our defense

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Speaker 3: at the time, and with the tutolage of Coach Parcels.

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Speaker 3: He was always pushing our buttons and knew that he

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Speaker 3: we had a commitment to excellence, and that's that's what

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Speaker 3: it came down to and.

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Speaker 1: We did it the right way.

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Speaker 3: It was a it was a different style of football

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Speaker 3: though we have played back then, but we're very proud

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Speaker 2: I have often talked to coach Bill Parcells about what

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Speaker 1: What do you define as a par sales guy? And

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Speaker 1: why were you one of them? It came down to

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Speaker 3: You know, it's not about me, it's about we and individually,

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Speaker 3: And so we were all very coordinated and we had

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Speaker 3: and we accomplished those. And so we have relied on

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Speaker 3: were physical, tough, all those things that you think about

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Speaker 2: Fourth round draft pick, when you came in and the

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Speaker 2: how difficult was it to find your niche to blend

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Speaker 3: Belong Well, for me, it was easy because I had

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Speaker 3: being relentless in pursuit of the football. And that's kind

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Speaker 3: of how we played and that was instilled in us

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl twenty one, in Super Bowl twenty five, the

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Speaker 2: two rings that Gary owns.

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Speaker 1: Do you often look back at those at all?

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Speaker 3: I tell you when you look back in the context

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Speaker 3: Eighty five we excelled. Harry was still playing very well,

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Speaker 1: It was palpable because we felt all the.

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Speaker 1: And then we were on cloud nine.

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Speaker 3: We went went to play in the Super Bowl and

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Speaker 4: You're ready for a change. Pay Day comes early with citizens,

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Speaker 4: So go to that retreat. Knew you move to the country.

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Speaker 4: Now you're raising goats and launching a lifestyle brand. Are

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Speaker 4: you ready for all that life breaks?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I chill people all the time. Even though the

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Speaker 2: and Parcels of course played the win exactly.

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Speaker 3: You know, that stadium had our name on it, the Giants,

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Speaker 2: You know, I remember that Bill Parcels used to say

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Speaker 1: They had just thinking about it. Phil Sims probably to

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Speaker 3: Phil did, and he had a great run. Previous to

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Speaker 2: We talked about Bill Parcells during this interview, but Bill

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you could see it pretty easily that Bill had

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Speaker 2: So the fans, whenever they hear the words Gary reasons,

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Speaker 1: A photo that made the Pro Football Hall of Fame

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Speaker 2: From your perspective, which one are you more relishing over

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Speaker 3: Well to hear John Madden and Pat Summer all call

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Speaker 3: But I do think answer your question, the fake punt

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, I've heard many times from your teammates that

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Speaker 3: Steve and inside that didn't, Yeah, Sean plup, well whatever.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of things that Sean didn't remember it,

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Speaker 4: You loved her.

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Speaker 1: You're good at it.

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Speaker 4: So you start a turf Fizz business grows, your savings grow,

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Speaker 1: All right, let's take you into it today.

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Speaker 2: You're a linebacker, and we all know the Giants tradition

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the linebacker play that they look for today, on

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Speaker 2: So now you're doing a lot of work with FCS

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Speaker 2: So I know that's that's got to be a proud

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Speaker 3: Well, this is a family, this is a community of

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Speaker 3: Everybody who comes to those doors now understands what they're

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Speaker 2: See Gary Reasons. It's a long way from the days

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Speaker 1: This is quite an outfit.

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Speaker 2: Two times super Bowl champ, Gary Reasons, Thank you, you

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