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I actually 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:45.960 think some debates in the past. So what is your 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:47.880 strategy when you get ready? 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:50.800 Well, my strategy is I think different from a number 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:52.640 of people. What I do is I sit down with 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:55.360 a team. It's typically a team of somewhere between five 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:58.240 and ten people, and I'll spend at least a full 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:01.040 day talking through the I don't do a lot of 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:04.760 play acting. I don't generally have people that are that 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:09.160 are mock acting as whoever else it is I'm debating. 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:12.480 But rather I have really smart people, often their Supreme 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:16.200 Court lawyers, who are sitting down thinking through, all right, 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:18.240 what are the likely questions, what are we going to 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:20.000 talk about? What are the topics that are going to 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:23.320 come up. Part of it is we start with a 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:26.000 meta strategy. What is my objective in this debate? You know, 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:28.800 in a presidential debate, particularly in the primaries where you're 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:32.120 having a bunch of debates, there are different times when 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:34.520 you have different strategies, there's different times when you want 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:37.440 to draw a greater contrast with one candidate versus another, 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:41.080 And so for debate prep, I'll often start with, all right, 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:43.640 what's my objective? A question that I will ask my 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:46.200 team over and over again is what's a win? What 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:48.240 do we want the headline to be at the end 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:51.600 of the debate, And let's think backwards how we produce that, 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:55.080 what is the outcome we want to be? And then 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:57.120 we'll talk through who are the moderators, what are the 0:04:57.200 --> 0:05:00.520 questions are going to come? And then for me, rather 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:03.680 than practicing an answer, I don't want answers to sound rehearsed. 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:05.200 I don't I don't want to just stand. 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:08.680 Up and give a set piece, We'll talk instead about 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:11.960 all right, what are the likely questions and what is 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:16.440 the strategy or approach for answers, and and we'll go 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:19.279 through that at considerable length and talk back and forth 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:22.360 about Okay, how's the how is my opponent going to 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:24.640 come back after that? And what's the strategy? What do 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:27.920 I want my opponent to say, and what's my response 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:29.520 to where they're going, and so it will be. 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:32.080 It's actually been for me. 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:35.320 Debate prep is very much the same way I would 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:39.839 prepare for Supreme Court arguments. I would do moots at times, 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:43.320 but particularly as I had done more and more Supreme 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:47.000 Court arguments, I ended up arguing nine times in front 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:49.239 of the US Supreme Court, and particularly for the later ones, 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:53.800 rather than actually play acting out the argument, I would 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:57.560 do the same thing. I would talk through with smart 0:05:57.600 --> 0:06:01.920 strategists where we wanted to go and what we wanted 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:02.760 to get done. 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:06.719 I love getting ready for debate prep and have gotten 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:08.640 to be a part of it several different times at 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:14.000 different levels. And I've also seen the candidate that over prepares. 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:16.760 How do you make sure you don't do that? Because 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:20.200 when you get too many thoughts and too much information 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:23.839 and too many lines as you described, and can sound 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:27.640 pre rehearse, that I've seen be a disaster for candidates. 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:29.800 We've seen this on the national stage in President of 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:32.000 debates before as well. 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:33.320 Yeah, that's exactly right. 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:36.360 You don't want to be wooden. You don't want to 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:39.719 be overrehearsed. You don't want to come off as overrehearsed. 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:43.240 I think the most notable example of that was in 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:48.599 twenty sixteen in the primaries the New Hampshire debate, where 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:52.440 Chris Christy went after Barco Rubio and I was standing there, 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:55.200 I was right next to Chris, and I mean what 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:58.600 Chris did DeMarco was as brutal as we've ever seen 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:01.960 in any debate, because he is going after Marco and 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:04.799 accusing him being a robot, and and Marco kept saying 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:09.160 the same thing over and over again and and and 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:14.160 Chris just pounded him for it, and and it ended 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:15.760 up I mean, I have to say for the rest 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:18.000 of us, but we were kind of like, all right enough, 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:21.000 Chris cut you know, you're you're You're like, you're killing 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:24.040 the guy. But but it was Marco ran into trouble 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:26.840 because he had a set piece that I guess he'd 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:29.320 practiced that that that he repeated I think three separate 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:32.920 times in a row, and and Christy really took advantage 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:36.240 of it. That's not something you want to have happened. 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:36.440 Now. 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:39.120 The good news is, I think the chances of Trump 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:41.600 doing that are zero. That's that's not how he prepares 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:43.200 for a debate. And I don't think there's any risk 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:43.760 of him doing that. 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:46.800 Yeah, there's been a lot of this, and let's move 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:51.440 to Trump about hey, is he is he getting ready 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:53.760 the way that he should be getting ready. He had 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:57.440 a weak debate against Joe Biden in the last presidential 0:07:57.480 --> 0:07:59.960 cycle that some believe may have cost him the White House. 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:04.920 He also said in an interesting article in the Washington Examiner, quote, 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:09.160 so I've been in sixteen seventeen debates? Trump answered it. 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:11.920 In response to a question. He said, quote, I think 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:15.080 I've won almost all of him. I did well against 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:18.160 Ted Cruz. That would be you, who is a good debater? 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:22.320 All these guys. I became president. Some people say I 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:26.240 became president because of these debates. You can't tell until 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:28.920 you get up on the stage, because it depends on 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:32.680 how he comes out. And I think you know he's 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:34.200 referring obviously to Joe Biden. 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:38.360 Yeah, now look that's right. And Trump is very loose 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:42.520 in debates. He can be all over the place, but 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:46.720 he tends to punch back. That's his instincts, you know, 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:49.440 in terms of how he prepares for debates, particularly now, 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:52.160 I think what he does is he does rallies. He 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:54.520 goes to rallies and he riffs that and he finds 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:57.280 themes that he thinks might work, and he sees how 0:08:57.280 --> 0:09:00.199 people react. I think a great example of that is 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:02.400 the Las Vegas rally he did not too long ago, 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:05.880 where where he rolled out the idea of no taxes 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:09.400 on tips and and and actually, you know when when 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:13.640 I had lunch with Trump a week before last, he 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:16.199 talked talked to me and all the other Republican senators 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:18.679 about where that came from. And he said he was 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:21.840 sitting in the hotel room right before the rally, and 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:23.480 he and and he was having some food, and the 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:26.160 waitress came up, and and and and he said, the waitress, 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:28.959 she said she was beautiful. She was beautiful, and we 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:32.520 all believed we all believed him. And he said that 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:35.080 she was. She was complaining about the burden of of 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:37.560 all the record keeping for her tips and and and 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:40.160 that it was really a pain, and that she didn't 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:42.120 like it. And Trump said he just pulled out pulled 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:45.120 out a pen and wrote down no taxes on tips 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:48.000 and and he he told us, he said, look, this 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:49.960 didn't come from a white paper, This didn't come from 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:52.400 a bunch of tax experts. This just came from the 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:54.520 conversation I had with the waitress, and then he said 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:58.120 at the rally, I decided to say it, and I said, 0:09:58.160 --> 0:10:01.080 no taxes on tips, and he said and they went crazy, 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:04.200 They went wild, And I got to say, by the way, 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:08.720 I think is a policy proposal that one is political genius, 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:12.559 and in fact, so much so that the week after 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:16.520 he did it, I drafted legislation and filed legislation to 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:19.400 make tips tax free because I actually agree with the 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:23.360 idea strongly, and I think Republicans should be the party 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:29.240 of waiters and waitresses and bartenders and barbers and hairstylists 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:32.640 and taxicab drivers and uber drivers, and we're a blue 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:35.000 collar party, and I think no taxes on tips is 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:38.079 right at the heart of it, a tax relief proposal 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:40.959 that goes goes exactly to the people we're fighting for. 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:43.920 But that's Isn't it amazing by the way that Trump, 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:46.199 now two of his biggest things have connected, whether it's 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:48.959 twenty twenty or twenty sixteen, were kind of off the cuff. 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:52.679 That build the Wall part, which became a co the 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:55.000 center point, the cornerstone of his campaign. 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:57.360 Sixteen was the same thing. It was a riff. 0:10:57.920 --> 0:10:58.920 Yeah, and he talks. 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:02.520 About that how at a rally, he'll he'll essentially field 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:04.880 test things. He'll put something out and see how people 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:09.719 react and listen. The man has a really strong instinctual 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:10.520 sense of people. 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:11.440 Look. 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:15.320 I think the proposal of no taxes on tips, without exaggeration, 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:19.800 I think that policy alone could could win in the 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:23.319 state of Nevada. There's an enormous number of casino workers 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:26.079 who who who get a significant part of their compensation 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:29.079 from tips. There's a reason that crowd went wild because 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:32.040 it spoke directly to people who are struggling, who are 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.840 working towards the American dream. And I think you're right 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:37.000 he did that with Bill the Wall that he tries 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:40.640 different riffs and themes, and so I would expect that 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:44.040 that that same dynamic. You know, it's interesting that that 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:47.160 interview you were reading with byron Yorke with Trump on debates, 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:49.000 that there was a portion of it that I thought 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:54.200 was was very interesting. Well, which is he talked about 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:56.640 the rules of this debate, and here's what Trump said, 0:11:56.679 --> 0:12:00.080 he said quote. What they did, I'm pretty sure is 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:02.800 that they approached me with a debate that I couldn't take. 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:08.320 Dana Bash Jake Tapper, whom Trump referred to as fake 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:12.840 Tapper in the interview, no audience, sitting down originally sitting 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:15.280 down a dead debate, turn off the mics when you're 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:17.880 not speaking so I can't interrupt him. They knew I 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:20.679 wouldn't accept that because it was CNN, it was Dana Bash, 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:23.800 Jake Tapper, and I like it audience, and probably he doesn't, 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:27.319 who knows, so they thought they would present it. I 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:30.319 would say no, and then they would say we can't 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:34.680 debate because Trump said no. So I said yes before 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:37.360 they even gave me the terms. So he got roped 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:37.800 into it. 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:38.760 All right. 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:41.280 I agree with every word at what Trump just said there. 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:45.240 And it's interesting, listen. I think this debate, every one 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:49.600 of these rules is stacked to be against Trump. The 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:51.800 fact that it is in a studio with no audience. 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:54.640 Trump feeds off an audience, He plays to an audience. 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:57.360 Biden's terrified by an audience, says the reason he turns 0:12:57.360 --> 0:13:02.840 out six people to his events so that favors him. CNN, Tapper, 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:06.000 and and Bash are going to come after Trump relentlessly. 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:08.840 It's not gonna be Trump versus Biden. It is going 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:13.280 to be Trump versus Biden and CNN. And and and 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:15.720 and then the turning off the MIC's bit. 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:17.520 Really is garbage. 0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:22.760 It's it's because Biden can't actually handle real conflict in 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:26.840 the debate, and so he's asked CNN please stop mean 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:32.160 mister Trump from from saying anything when I'm talking and listen. 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:34.559 All of that skews towards Biden. But I also agree 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:37.080 with with Trump's instinct, which is if he had pushed back, 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:41.080 the Biden team desperately wanted to get out of this debate. 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:43.520 They wanted to cancel it, and so they wanted to 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:47.360 propose rules that that that were so skewed. Trump would 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:49.280 push back and they could say, oh, it was Trump 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:51.600 who canceled the debate, Guess we can't have it. And 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:54.920 and so I completely agree with the decision. Fine, you 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:57.560 get all the rules. It's skewed for you, We're going 0:13:57.640 --> 0:13:59.440 to have a debate. And and and listen, I'm gonna 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:03.800 make a prediction right now. My prediction is tonight Donald 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:07.600 Trump is going to kick Joe Biden's ass in this debate. 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:09.880 Is How's he going to do that? 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:13.240 And I want to go back to sixteen for example, 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:15.240 you know, he was on defense a lot. 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:18.240 He enjoyed that aspect of the debates. 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:20.280 I think at some point when he felt like, Okay, 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:22.320 I'm the front runner and everybody's coming at me on 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:24.960 the left and the right of the stage. Then in 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:27.960 the last presidential debates that he was involved with, he 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:31.480 was on defense because of COVID in the economy and 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:35.480 inflation and things that were happening. And this time he's 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:39.080 not on defense. He can absolutely go on offense. But 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:41.680 does he have to be careful about his demeanor? Does 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:45.240 he need to philosophically get the audience from point A 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:48.320 to point B and kind of tone it down a 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:52.160 little bit and make it clear, Hey, look, I'm running 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:55.840 because people are hurting and people that were not hurting 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:58.360 when I left office are now hurting. Is that a 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:01.440 strategy that he should implement. What should demeanor be? 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:02.320 Yeah? 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:06.360 Look, I think it is very important that that he 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:10.920 be toned down, that he not come in with a chainsaw. 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:14.560 And if you look at the first debate in twenty twenty, 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:18.320 the first debate in twenty twenty, he came out swinging, 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:21.240 he was attacking, he was relentless, and I think the 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:24.760 consequence of it is he bailed Joe Biden out Joe 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:27.480 Biden was not doing well, but Trump interrupted so much 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:30.600 that that it actually gave Biden an excuse just to 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:36.280 shut up and let Trump be super aggressive. And particularly 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:39.400 when Biden's answers are not very good, you got to 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:42.080 give him a chance to give him and give him 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:43.200 the rope to hang himself. 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:43.880 And it's interesting. 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:47.160 In this same interview Trump did with with with Byron York, 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:51.280 he addresses this, So Byron York asks him, says, quote, 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:53.520 a lot of people thought in the first debate with 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:57.040 Biden that you were somewhat overamped, that you just went 0:15:57.080 --> 0:16:00.960 after him too much. Trump responds that I interrupt him. Yeah, 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:03.240 I think And Byron Yorke says, do you agree with that? 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:07.400 And here's what Trump said, Mmm huh. Then, after a 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:10.480 short pause, he defended the interruptions before conceding that yes, 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:14.400 there were too many. Quote, he lies so much. Trump said, 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:17.200 he's going on everything he says is a lie. So 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:20.360 I would call him because calling him out two minutes 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:22.400 later is very tough because you know it's a lie. 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:24.880 It's a lie. Everything's a lie. I've never seen anything 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:27.080 like it. So when I would interrupt, it look like 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:29.920 I agree. Though the second debate, I handled it much 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:32.760 differently and got very good marks. And so look, I 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:36.880 understand he was in the attack mode, and that's fine, 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:41.000 but it ended up bailing bailing Biden out. I also 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:44.320 agree with this comment there that Trump was much more 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:47.080 effective in the second debate against Biden than in the first. 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:52.160 And what I hope we see tonight is that Trump 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:57.360 very calmly lays out the facts that Biden has screwed 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:01.320 everything up, that Biden and heer did peace and prosperity, 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:05.880 and that right now inflation is hammering working people, that 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:08.880 that right now the economy people are hurting, that right 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:12.040 now crime is rising far too high, that right now 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:15.639 the border is an absolute chaos, and people are dying, 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:19.520 and it's the worst in history. That on foreign policy, 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:23.320 when Biden came into office, Donald Trump had just finished 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:25.800 signing the Abraham Accords, we had peace in the Middle East. 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:29.520 We now have two simultaneous wars, and and and what 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:34.240 I hope that Trump does is simply lay out the 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:38.520 facts that that on almost any every measure, the American 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:41.840 people were better off when Trump was president than when 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:44.760 Biden is president. And I think those facts are strong 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:49.280 enough that he doesn't need to beat Biden over the 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:52.679 head with tone or rhetoric. I'd let the facts do 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:56.120 the work and and and and force Biden to defend himself. 0:17:56.160 --> 0:18:02.240 I would also try very much to surprise Biden, to 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:06.080 cause him to ask him questions, to challenge him, not 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:09.080 in a yelling manner, and because his microphone will be 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:12.600 turned off of doesn't have the podium, that will be limited, 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:15.920 but to challenge him very directly, to ask him questions 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:21.480 that he can't give a set, memorized answer to, because 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:24.359 I think Biden's prep team is giving him lots and 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:27.280 lots of set memorized answers. They're trying to feed him 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:30.000 substance that he can just regurgitate. 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:33.680 Final question on this what do you think is the 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:39.640 top maybe one to three subjects that Donald Trump has 0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:44.720 to make sure that he spends quality time on. And 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:47.879 I may shock you on this one, you may disagree. 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:50.600 I think there's certain issues that you don't spend a 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:53.240 lot of time on. For example, I don't think you 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:56.480 spend that much time on the Biden crime family, because 0:18:56.520 --> 0:18:58.280 I think you can get into the weeds and waste 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:01.960 valuable time talking to the average American that might not 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:05.000 care that much about that compared to the economy, or 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:08.760 an open border, or a fetnyl coming across the southern border. 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:10.480 The list goes on and on. 0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:12.600 Yeah, look, I agree with that. 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:17.080 There's lots of concerning evidence about Biden corruption, but I 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:20.040 think a lot of voters are not following that very closely. 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:22.000 Those that are know about it, the rest, I don't 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:24.639 think are going to be persuaded by it. I would 0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:30.840 have just about every comment Trump makes be about how 0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:33.760 your life is different. Look, the classic question, and in 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:38.399 any in any election, is are you better off today 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:41.359 than you were four years ago? And and on almost 0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:44.880 every metric, the answer is clear. For the vast majority 0:19:44.920 --> 0:19:48.240 of Americans things were better when Trump was president than now, 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:50.680 and and and and so I would have it. I 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:53.879 would have immigration front and center. I think it is 0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:57.760 quite likely that that that that Trump is going to 0:19:57.840 --> 0:20:01.879 talk about Joscelyn Nungary, the the twelve year old beautiful 0:20:01.920 --> 0:20:05.960 girl who was assaulted and murdered in Houston just a 0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:09.440 few days ago by two illegal immigrants Joe Biden released. 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:11.399 I think he's going to talk about Rachel Marin, the 0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:14.639 beautiful mother of five who was raped and murdered in 0:20:14.680 --> 0:20:18.840 suburban Maryland by illegal immigrants that Joe Biden released. I 0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:20.920 think he's going to talk about the thirteen year old 0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:23.520 girl just a few days ago who was raped in 0:20:23.600 --> 0:20:26.320 a public park in New York by an illegal immigrant 0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:28.760 that Joe Biden released, And I think he's going to 0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:32.400 talk or he should talk about the eight suspected terrorist 0:20:32.480 --> 0:20:37.480 isis K terrorist from Tajikistan who were just arrested on 0:20:37.560 --> 0:20:41.960 suspicion of a terrorist attack a plot, and again who 0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:47.000 Joe Biden released, and I hope he walks systematically through 0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:49.800 one after the other after the other. You know, you 0:20:49.840 --> 0:20:54.159 look at how on defense, how unprepared Biden was for 0:20:54.240 --> 0:20:56.800 Lake and Riley during the State of the Union, where 0:20:56.800 --> 0:20:59.800 his defense during the State of the Union was well, 0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:04.600 an illegal killed her, Well, legals kill people too. You know, 0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:07.040 if that's Biden's defense, that's not going to go well. 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:13.960 And given how horrific the facts are here, I think Trump. 0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:15.840