1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:01,640 Speaker 1: Welcome. 2 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Center, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you, 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 2: and I gotta say, if you're a person that loves 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 2: the world of politics, even when it can be annoying 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: sometimes Center, there is nothing more fun than getting ready 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 2: for a debate day. And we're finally here, Donald Trump 7 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 2: on stage with Joe Biden. 8 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly right. 9 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 4: Today is debate day, and we wanted to do a 10 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 4: special podcast today. We didn't do Wednesday's pod because we 11 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 4: wanted this to come out on the day of the debate. 12 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 4: And this is, as Muhammad Ali put it, the rumble 13 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 4: in the jungle. This is the debate tonight between Trump 14 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 4: and Biden. We're gonna break it down. We're going to 15 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 4: talk about what to expect. 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How 65 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 2: did you get ready for a debate, and it's you know, 66 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 2: Donald Trump says, hey, I don't do it the traditional way. 67 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 2: I'm certainly not going to lock myself away for a 68 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 2: week at Camp David and take a lot of napps. 69 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 2: He says, he's not really a traditional debate prepper. That 70 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 2: can be good or bad. It's cost him. I actually 71 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 2: think some debates in the past. So what is your 72 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: strategy when you get ready? 73 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 4: Well, my strategy is I think different from a number 74 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 4: of people. What I do is I sit down with 75 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 4: a team. It's typically a team of somewhere between five 76 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 4: and ten people, and I'll spend at least a full 77 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 4: day talking through the I don't do a lot of 78 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 4: play acting. I don't generally have people that are that 79 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 4: are mock acting as whoever else it is I'm debating. 80 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 4: But rather I have really smart people, often their Supreme 81 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 4: Court lawyers, who are sitting down thinking through, all right, 82 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 4: what are the likely questions, what are we going to 83 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 4: talk about? What are the topics that are going to 84 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 4: come up. Part of it is we start with a 85 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 4: meta strategy. What is my objective in this debate? You know, 86 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 4: in a presidential debate, particularly in the primaries where you're 87 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 4: having a bunch of debates, there are different times when 88 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 4: you have different strategies, there's different times when you want 89 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 4: to draw a greater contrast with one candidate versus another, 90 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 4: And so for debate prep, I'll often start with, all right, 91 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 4: what's my objective? A question that I will ask my 92 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 4: team over and over again is what's a win? What 93 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 4: do we want the headline to be at the end 94 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 4: of the debate, And let's think backwards how we produce that, 95 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 4: what is the outcome we want to be? And then 96 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 4: we'll talk through who are the moderators, what are the 97 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 4: questions are going to come? And then for me, rather 98 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 4: than practicing an answer, I don't want answers to sound rehearsed. 99 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 3: I don't I don't want to just stand. 100 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 4: Up and give a set piece, We'll talk instead about 101 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 4: all right, what are the likely questions and what is 102 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 4: the strategy or approach for answers, and and we'll go 103 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 4: through that at considerable length and talk back and forth 104 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 4: about Okay, how's the how is my opponent going to 105 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 4: come back after that? And what's the strategy? What do 106 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 4: I want my opponent to say, and what's my response 107 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 4: to where they're going, and so it will be. 108 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 3: It's actually been for me. 109 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 4: Debate prep is very much the same way I would 110 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 4: prepare for Supreme Court arguments. I would do moots at times, 111 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 4: but particularly as I had done more and more Supreme 112 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 4: Court arguments, I ended up arguing nine times in front 113 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,239 Speaker 4: of the US Supreme Court, and particularly for the later ones, 114 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 4: rather than actually play acting out the argument, I would 115 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 4: do the same thing. I would talk through with smart 116 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 4: strategists where we wanted to go and what we wanted 117 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 4: to get done. 118 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 2: I love getting ready for debate prep and have gotten 119 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 2: to be a part of it several different times at 120 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 2: different levels. And I've also seen the candidate that over prepares. 121 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: How do you make sure you don't do that? Because 122 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: when you get too many thoughts and too much information 123 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 2: and too many lines as you described, and can sound 124 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 2: pre rehearse, that I've seen be a disaster for candidates. 125 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 2: We've seen this on the national stage in President of 126 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: debates before as well. 127 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly right. 128 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 4: You don't want to be wooden. You don't want to 129 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 4: be overrehearsed. You don't want to come off as overrehearsed. 130 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 4: I think the most notable example of that was in 131 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 4: twenty sixteen in the primaries the New Hampshire debate, where 132 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 4: Chris Christy went after Barco Rubio and I was standing there, 133 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 4: I was right next to Chris, and I mean what 134 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 4: Chris did DeMarco was as brutal as we've ever seen 135 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 4: in any debate, because he is going after Marco and 136 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,799 Speaker 4: accusing him being a robot, and and Marco kept saying 137 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 4: the same thing over and over again and and and 138 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 4: Chris just pounded him for it, and and it ended 139 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 4: up I mean, I have to say for the rest 140 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 4: of us, but we were kind of like, all right enough, 141 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 4: Chris cut you know, you're you're You're like, you're killing 142 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 4: the guy. But but it was Marco ran into trouble 143 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 4: because he had a set piece that I guess he'd 144 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 4: practiced that that that he repeated I think three separate 145 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 4: times in a row, and and Christy really took advantage 146 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 4: of it. That's not something you want to have happened. 147 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 3: Now. 148 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 4: The good news is, I think the chances of Trump 149 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 4: doing that are zero. That's that's not how he prepares 150 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 4: for a debate. And I don't think there's any risk 151 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 4: of him doing that. 152 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's been a lot of this, and let's move 153 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: to Trump about hey, is he is he getting ready 154 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 2: the way that he should be getting ready. He had 155 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 2: a weak debate against Joe Biden in the last presidential 156 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: cycle that some believe may have cost him the White House. 157 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: He also said in an interesting article in the Washington Examiner, quote, 158 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 2: so I've been in sixteen seventeen debates? Trump answered it. 159 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 2: In response to a question. He said, quote, I think 160 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 2: I've won almost all of him. I did well against 161 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 2: Ted Cruz. That would be you, who is a good debater? 162 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 2: All these guys. I became president. Some people say I 163 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 2: became president because of these debates. You can't tell until 164 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 2: you get up on the stage, because it depends on 165 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 2: how he comes out. And I think you know he's 166 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 2: referring obviously to Joe Biden. 167 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, now look that's right. And Trump is very loose 168 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 4: in debates. He can be all over the place, but 169 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 4: he tends to punch back. That's his instincts, you know, 170 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 4: in terms of how he prepares for debates, particularly now, 171 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 4: I think what he does is he does rallies. He 172 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 4: goes to rallies and he riffs that and he finds 173 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 4: themes that he thinks might work, and he sees how 174 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 4: people react. I think a great example of that is 175 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 4: the Las Vegas rally he did not too long ago, 176 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 4: where where he rolled out the idea of no taxes 177 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 4: on tips and and and actually, you know when when 178 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 4: I had lunch with Trump a week before last, he 179 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 4: talked talked to me and all the other Republican senators 180 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 4: about where that came from. And he said he was 181 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 4: sitting in the hotel room right before the rally, and 182 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 4: he and and he was having some food, and the 183 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 4: waitress came up, and and and and he said, the waitress, 184 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 4: she said she was beautiful. She was beautiful, and we 185 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 4: all believed we all believed him. And he said that 186 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 4: she was. She was complaining about the burden of of 187 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 4: all the record keeping for her tips and and and 188 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 4: that it was really a pain, and that she didn't 189 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 4: like it. And Trump said he just pulled out pulled 190 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 4: out a pen and wrote down no taxes on tips 191 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 4: and and he he told us, he said, look, this 192 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 4: didn't come from a white paper, This didn't come from 193 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 4: a bunch of tax experts. This just came from the 194 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 4: conversation I had with the waitress, and then he said 195 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 4: at the rally, I decided to say it, and I said, 196 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 4: no taxes on tips, and he said and they went crazy, 197 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 4: They went wild, And I got to say, by the way, 198 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 4: I think is a policy proposal that one is political genius, 199 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 4: and in fact, so much so that the week after 200 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 4: he did it, I drafted legislation and filed legislation to 201 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 4: make tips tax free because I actually agree with the 202 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 4: idea strongly, and I think Republicans should be the party 203 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 4: of waiters and waitresses and bartenders and barbers and hairstylists 204 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 4: and taxicab drivers and uber drivers, and we're a blue 205 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 4: collar party, and I think no taxes on tips is 206 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 4: right at the heart of it, a tax relief proposal 207 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 4: that goes goes exactly to the people we're fighting for. 208 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 2: But that's Isn't it amazing by the way that Trump, 209 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 2: now two of his biggest things have connected, whether it's 210 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 2: twenty twenty or twenty sixteen, were kind of off the cuff. 211 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 2: That build the Wall part, which became a co the 212 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 2: center point, the cornerstone of his campaign. 213 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: Sixteen was the same thing. It was a riff. 214 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he talks. 215 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 4: About that how at a rally, he'll he'll essentially field 216 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 4: test things. He'll put something out and see how people 217 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 4: react and listen. The man has a really strong instinctual 218 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 4: sense of people. 219 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 3: Look. 220 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 4: I think the proposal of no taxes on tips, without exaggeration, 221 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 4: I think that policy alone could could win in the 222 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 4: state of Nevada. There's an enormous number of casino workers 223 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 4: who who who get a significant part of their compensation 224 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 4: from tips. There's a reason that crowd went wild because 225 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 4: it spoke directly to people who are struggling, who are 226 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 4: working towards the American dream. And I think you're right 227 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 4: he did that with Bill the Wall that he tries 228 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 4: different riffs and themes, and so I would expect that 229 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 4: that that same dynamic. You know, it's interesting that that 230 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 4: interview you were reading with byron Yorke with Trump on debates, 231 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 4: that there was a portion of it that I thought 232 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 4: was was very interesting. Well, which is he talked about 233 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 4: the rules of this debate, and here's what Trump said, 234 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 4: he said quote. What they did, I'm pretty sure is 235 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 4: that they approached me with a debate that I couldn't take. 236 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 4: Dana Bash Jake Tapper, whom Trump referred to as fake 237 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 4: Tapper in the interview, no audience, sitting down originally sitting 238 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 4: down a dead debate, turn off the mics when you're 239 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 4: not speaking so I can't interrupt him. They knew I 240 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 4: wouldn't accept that because it was CNN, it was Dana Bash, 241 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 4: Jake Tapper, and I like it audience, and probably he doesn't, 242 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 4: who knows, so they thought they would present it. I 243 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 4: would say no, and then they would say we can't 244 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 4: debate because Trump said no. So I said yes before 245 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 4: they even gave me the terms. So he got roped 246 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 4: into it. 247 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 5: All right. 248 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 4: I agree with every word at what Trump just said there. 249 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 4: And it's interesting, listen. I think this debate, every one 250 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 4: of these rules is stacked to be against Trump. The 251 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 4: fact that it is in a studio with no audience. 252 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 4: Trump feeds off an audience, He plays to an audience. 253 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 4: Biden's terrified by an audience, says the reason he turns 254 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 4: out six people to his events so that favors him. CNN, Tapper, 255 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 4: and and Bash are going to come after Trump relentlessly. 256 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 4: It's not gonna be Trump versus Biden. It is going 257 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 4: to be Trump versus Biden and CNN. And and and 258 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 4: and then the turning off the MIC's bit. 259 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 3: Really is garbage. 260 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 4: It's it's because Biden can't actually handle real conflict in 261 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 4: the debate, and so he's asked CNN please stop mean 262 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 4: mister Trump from from saying anything when I'm talking and listen. 263 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 4: All of that skews towards Biden. But I also agree 264 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 4: with with Trump's instinct, which is if he had pushed back, 265 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 4: the Biden team desperately wanted to get out of this debate. 266 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 4: They wanted to cancel it, and so they wanted to 267 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 4: propose rules that that that were so skewed. Trump would 268 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 4: push back and they could say, oh, it was Trump 269 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 4: who canceled the debate, Guess we can't have it. And 270 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 4: and so I completely agree with the decision. Fine, you 271 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 4: get all the rules. It's skewed for you, We're going 272 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 4: to have a debate. And and and listen, I'm gonna 273 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 4: make a prediction right now. My prediction is tonight Donald 274 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 4: Trump is going to kick Joe Biden's ass in this debate. 275 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: Is How's he going to do that? 276 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 2: And I want to go back to sixteen for example, 277 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 2: you know, he was on defense a lot. 278 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: He enjoyed that aspect of the debates. 279 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 2: I think at some point when he felt like, Okay, 280 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 2: I'm the front runner and everybody's coming at me on 281 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 2: the left and the right of the stage. Then in 282 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 2: the last presidential debates that he was involved with, he 283 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 2: was on defense because of COVID in the economy and 284 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 2: inflation and things that were happening. And this time he's 285 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 2: not on defense. He can absolutely go on offense. But 286 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 2: does he have to be careful about his demeanor? Does 287 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: he need to philosophically get the audience from point A 288 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 2: to point B and kind of tone it down a 289 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 2: little bit and make it clear, Hey, look, I'm running 290 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 2: because people are hurting and people that were not hurting 291 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 2: when I left office are now hurting. Is that a 292 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 2: strategy that he should implement. What should demeanor be? 293 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? 294 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 4: Look, I think it is very important that that he 295 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 4: be toned down, that he not come in with a chainsaw. 296 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 4: And if you look at the first debate in twenty twenty, 297 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 4: the first debate in twenty twenty, he came out swinging, 298 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 4: he was attacking, he was relentless, and I think the 299 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 4: consequence of it is he bailed Joe Biden out Joe 300 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 4: Biden was not doing well, but Trump interrupted so much 301 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 4: that that it actually gave Biden an excuse just to 302 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 4: shut up and let Trump be super aggressive. And particularly 303 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 4: when Biden's answers are not very good, you got to 304 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 4: give him a chance to give him and give him 305 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 4: the rope to hang himself. 306 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 3: And it's interesting. 307 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 4: In this same interview Trump did with with with Byron York, 308 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 4: he addresses this, So Byron York asks him, says, quote, 309 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 4: a lot of people thought in the first debate with 310 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 4: Biden that you were somewhat overamped, that you just went 311 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 4: after him too much. Trump responds that I interrupt him. Yeah, 312 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 4: I think And Byron Yorke says, do you agree with that? 313 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 4: And here's what Trump said, Mmm huh. Then, after a 314 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 4: short pause, he defended the interruptions before conceding that yes, 315 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 4: there were too many. Quote, he lies so much. Trump said, 316 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 4: he's going on everything he says is a lie. So 317 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 4: I would call him because calling him out two minutes 318 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 4: later is very tough because you know it's a lie. 319 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 4: It's a lie. Everything's a lie. I've never seen anything 320 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 4: like it. So when I would interrupt, it look like 321 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 4: I agree. Though the second debate, I handled it much 322 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 4: differently and got very good marks. And so look, I 323 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 4: understand he was in the attack mode, and that's fine, 324 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 4: but it ended up bailing bailing Biden out. I also 325 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 4: agree with this comment there that Trump was much more 326 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 4: effective in the second debate against Biden than in the first. 327 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 4: And what I hope we see tonight is that Trump 328 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 4: very calmly lays out the facts that Biden has screwed 329 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 4: everything up, that Biden and heer did peace and prosperity, 330 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 4: and that right now inflation is hammering working people, that 331 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 4: that right now the economy people are hurting, that right 332 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 4: now crime is rising far too high, that right now 333 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 4: the border is an absolute chaos, and people are dying, 334 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 4: and it's the worst in history. That on foreign policy, 335 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 4: when Biden came into office, Donald Trump had just finished 336 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 4: signing the Abraham Accords, we had peace in the Middle East. 337 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 4: We now have two simultaneous wars, and and and what 338 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 4: I hope that Trump does is simply lay out the 339 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 4: facts that that on almost any every measure, the American 340 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 4: people were better off when Trump was president than when 341 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 4: Biden is president. And I think those facts are strong 342 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 4: enough that he doesn't need to beat Biden over the 343 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 4: head with tone or rhetoric. I'd let the facts do 344 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 4: the work and and and and force Biden to defend himself. 345 00:17:56,160 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 4: I would also try very much to surprise Biden, to 346 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 4: cause him to ask him questions, to challenge him, not 347 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 4: in a yelling manner, and because his microphone will be 348 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 4: turned off of doesn't have the podium, that will be limited, 349 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 4: but to challenge him very directly, to ask him questions 350 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 4: that he can't give a set, memorized answer to, because 351 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 4: I think Biden's prep team is giving him lots and 352 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 4: lots of set memorized answers. They're trying to feed him 353 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 4: substance that he can just regurgitate. 354 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 2: Final question on this what do you think is the 355 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 2: top maybe one to three subjects that Donald Trump has 356 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 2: to make sure that he spends quality time on. And 357 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 2: I may shock you on this one, you may disagree. 358 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 2: I think there's certain issues that you don't spend a 359 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 2: lot of time on. For example, I don't think you 360 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 2: spend that much time on the Biden crime family, because 361 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 2: I think you can get into the weeds and waste 362 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 2: valuable time talking to the average American that might not 363 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 2: care that much about that compared to the economy, or 364 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 2: an open border, or a fetnyl coming across the southern border. 365 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: The list goes on and on. 366 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I agree with that. 367 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 4: There's lots of concerning evidence about Biden corruption, but I 368 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 4: think a lot of voters are not following that very closely. 369 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 4: Those that are know about it, the rest, I don't 370 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 4: think are going to be persuaded by it. I would 371 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 4: have just about every comment Trump makes be about how 372 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 4: your life is different. Look, the classic question, and in 373 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 4: any in any election, is are you better off today 374 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 4: than you were four years ago? And and on almost 375 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 4: every metric, the answer is clear. For the vast majority 376 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 4: of Americans things were better when Trump was president than now, 377 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 4: and and and and so I would have it. I 378 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 4: would have immigration front and center. I think it is 379 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 4: quite likely that that that that Trump is going to 380 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 4: talk about Joscelyn Nungary, the the twelve year old beautiful 381 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 4: girl who was assaulted and murdered in Houston just a 382 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 4: few days ago by two illegal immigrants Joe Biden released. 383 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 4: I think he's going to talk about Rachel Marin, the 384 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 4: beautiful mother of five who was raped and murdered in 385 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 4: suburban Maryland by illegal immigrants that Joe Biden released. I 386 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 4: think he's going to talk about the thirteen year old 387 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 4: girl just a few days ago who was raped in 388 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 4: a public park in New York by an illegal immigrant 389 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 4: that Joe Biden released, And I think he's going to 390 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 4: talk or he should talk about the eight suspected terrorist 391 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 4: isis K terrorist from Tajikistan who were just arrested on 392 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 4: suspicion of a terrorist attack a plot, and again who 393 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 4: Joe Biden released, and I hope he walks systematically through 394 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 4: one after the other after the other. You know, you 395 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 4: look at how on defense, how unprepared Biden was for 396 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 4: Lake and Riley during the State of the Union, where 397 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 4: his defense during the State of the Union was well, 398 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 4: an illegal killed her, Well, legals kill people too. You know, 399 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 4: if that's Biden's defense, that's not going to go well. 400 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 4: And given how horrific the facts are here, I think Trump. 401 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 4: You know, there's an old line in a court of law, 402 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 4: which is, if you have the facts, you bang the facts. 403 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 4: If you have the law, you bang the law. If 404 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 4: you have neither, you bang the table. There's some truth 405 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 4: to that. The facts of just how bad Biden's record 406 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 4: is are so compelling that Trump doesn't need to be overstated. 407 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 4: And in fact, in the same interview he went on 408 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 4: a little bit more and he said, quote, I was 409 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 4: very aggressive in the first one talking about the twenty 410 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 4: twenty debate with Biden. The second one I was different, 411 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 4: and I got great marks on the second one. It 412 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 4: was a little unfair because in the second one a 413 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 4: lot of votes had already been cast. So I'm probably 414 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 4: gonna look at the scene at the time. It's like 415 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 4: a fight. It depends on what the situation is. And 416 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 4: and so I think I hope he's going to try 417 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 4: more to emulate how he conducted the second debate. I 418 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 4: think he was much stronger in the second debate. And 419 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 4: I think you asked what topics that Trump is going 420 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 4: to be sure to raise, And that's actually when you 421 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 4: asked me before, Ben about preparing for debates. When I 422 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 4: thought about a Supreme Court argument, I would always come 423 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 4: up with a list of what I call must raise points, 424 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 4: and they're typically three to five points. And my test 425 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 4: for it was if when the argument was done and 426 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 4: I sat down, if this point had not come out 427 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 4: of my mouth, would I be pissed. Would I be 428 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 4: kicking myself saying how did I get through this oral 429 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 4: argument and not make this point? Because it is critical, 430 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 4: it is why we should prevail in this Supreme Court argument. 431 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 4: I would think about debates the same way, and when 432 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 4: I prepare for them, I do I think about, all right, 433 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 4: what are the substitutive points that, more than anything else, 434 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 4: I want people at the end of the debate to 435 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 4: remember and to say, this is what the election is 436 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 4: all about. So I think immigration is going to be 437 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 4: a huge part about it. I think it's the biggest 438 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 4: issue in this election. I think inflation in the economy 439 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 4: is right behind it, and I think people are really 440 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 4: unhappy with inflation in the economy. And I think I 441 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 4: hope Trump does a good job of laying out, for example, 442 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 4: the connection of energy and the Biden administration's war on 443 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 4: American energy and why that's driving inflation. I think that's 444 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 4: a very powerful point. And then I also think on 445 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 4: foreign policy, look, Trump is going to point out what 446 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 4: is it with Democrats in forever wars? That when Trump 447 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 4: was president, he got us out of a war, he 448 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 4: defeated ISIS and ended the war, and Joe Biden gets office, 449 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 4: and he goes from peace and prosperity to the biggest 450 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 4: war in Europe since World War II and the worst 451 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 4: war in the Middle East in fifty years. And objectively, 452 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 4: the whole world is on fire. And I think Biden. 453 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 4: Biden has a lot of hubris, a lot of arrogance. 454 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 4: He thinks is a foreign policy expert. And I think 455 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 4: Trump making the point that Joe, you've screwed the entire 456 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 4: world up, that there has not been a president who's 457 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 4: messed foreign policy up this badly since Jimmy Carter. I 458 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 4: think that will drive Biden crazy and is a point 459 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 4: I really hope Trump makes. 460 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,959 Speaker 2: There's another debate that's going to take place outside of 461 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 2: the Trump the Biden debate, and that is the debate 462 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 2: that could happen with CNN in the commentators. The two 463 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 2: people that have been chosen are huge hacks that cannot 464 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 2: stand Donald Trump. 465 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: The evidence here, it is. 466 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 6: The dehumanizing rhetoric of Adolf Hitler is once again alive 467 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 6: and well on a national political stage, this time, of course, 468 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 6: in the United States, this time give in life by 469 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 6: former presidents and current Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump. If 470 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 6: you were to open up a copy of Hitler's Mindkomf 471 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 6: you would find the Nazi leader describing the mixing of 472 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 6: non Germans with Germans as poisoning. There's really no other 473 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 6: way to say it. Donald Trump's language mirrors this directly. 474 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 7: Longstanding anti Semitic trope that the true allegiance for Jews 475 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 7: is to their religion rather than their country. It was 476 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 7: used in Nazi Germany to justify the arrest, persecutions, and 477 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 7: mass killings attempted extermination of the Jewish people, and Trump 478 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 7: has been pushing this trope for years. 479 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 2: Those are your two moderators of the debate, Senator, and look, 480 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 2: I worked with Dana. I've done presidential debates with Dana. 481 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 2: I've done post preimposed election coverage, convention coverage, debate coverage 482 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 2: with her and with Jake Tapper. I witness it for 483 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 2: seven years behind the scenes. They both hate Trump, they 484 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 2: both hate conservatives. This is normal. There's no way this 485 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,719 Speaker 2: is going to be a fair fight. How would you 486 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 2: deal with it? 487 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, they're going to come after him relentlessly. You're right. 488 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 4: I've done lots and lots of interviews with both both 489 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 4: Jake and Dana. I've done presidential debates with Jake and Dana. 490 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 4: They're going to come in with an agenda. You know, 491 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 4: it's ironic the portion you raised. You look at right 492 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 4: now where all of the vicious anti semitism is coming from, 493 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 4: and it's the left. It's the radical left that are 494 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,719 Speaker 4: protesting on campus, it's the squad, it's the Democrat Party. 495 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 4: And yet in CNN world, it's Trump that is anti semitic. 496 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 4: And it's just it is. They're coming in with a 497 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 4: clear agenda. I don't expect them to ask difficult questions Biden. 498 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 4: I expect them to go after relentlessly. I think they're 499 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,959 Speaker 4: obsessed with January sixth. I think you're going to get 500 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 4: multiple questions about January sixth. They're going to try to 501 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 4: prosecute them January sixth. I also we've seen CNN is 502 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 4: obsessed with the trials. I think you're gonna get questions 503 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 4: about Gene Carroll. I think you're gonna get questions about 504 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:13,719 Speaker 4: Stormy Daniels. By the way, none of which matters to 505 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 4: an American family who's worried about putting food on the table, 506 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 4: who's worried about keeping their kids safe. But CNN is 507 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 4: not trying to ask questions that are helpful for a 508 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 4: voter to decide whom to vote for instead. And when 509 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 4: I said Trump should be overstated, I meant really with 510 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 4: respect to Biden. If if CNN it acts like you 511 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 4: and I both think they're gonna act, which is as 512 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 4: wild eyed partisans. I think Trump should should be perfectly 513 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,719 Speaker 4: fine just calling them out on it. And they're so 514 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 4: thin skin that they're so sensitive. 515 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 3: You know. 516 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 4: It was really striking this week when when when you 517 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 4: had a spokeswoman for the Trump campaign on CNN and 518 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 4: she was laying out both both Jake and Dana's long 519 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 4: history of antagonism to Trump, and CNN ended the interview. 520 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 4: They're like, no, no, I'm not gonna let you talk 521 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 4: badly about my colleagues. We're done. You can't say that. 522 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 4: And I got to say, Ben, when a so called 523 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 4: journalistic outlet censors what you say and says you can't 524 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 4: criticize us, we are beyond criticism. That's not journalism. And 525 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 4: I think they are really thin skinned, and I think 526 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 4: we're going to see that tonight. 527 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have no doubt about it. 528 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 2: I want to talk to you real quick about your 529 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 2: cell phone and if you've got a cell phone. 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You can keep 555 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 2: your same cell phone number you have now, keep your 556 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 2: same cell phone you've got in your hand, or you 557 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 2: can upgrade to a new one if you choose to 558 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 2: call them and see how easy it is to switch. 559 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 2: In twenty twenty four nine seven to two Patriot. That's 560 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 2: nine seven to two Patriot nine seven to two Patriot 561 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 2: or Patriot Mobile dot com slash verdict. That's Patriot Mobile 562 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 2: dot com slash verdict sentata. I want to move to 563 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 2: another shocking story. Uh, and it is one that I 564 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 2: wish I could say I didn't think we would see. Unfortunately, 565 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 2: you predicted it. We've talked about it that this was 566 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 2: going to keep happening. This one, though, is extremely concerning. 567 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 2: The Department of Homeland Security has identified now quote, over 568 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 2: four hundred migrants brought to the US by an ISIS 569 00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 2: affiliated human smuggling network, and now they are they're desperately 570 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 2: trying to find people they had caught and released. Now 571 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 2: over one hundred and fifty of them have been arrested, 572 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 2: but the whereabouts of over fifty remain unknown. 573 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: Your reaction. 574 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 4: Look, this is a shocking story that in some ways 575 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 4: is not shocking because we know that this administration that 576 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 4: Joe Biden and the Democrats have effectively rolled out the 577 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 4: red carpet and with open borders, have given an invitation 578 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 4: to terrorists to come into the country. But even so, 579 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 4: the degree of naivete and reckless disregard for the safety 580 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 4: of Americans is remarkable. So here's the story. According to NBC, 581 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 4: and I'm just going to quote NBC quote, the Department 582 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 4: of Homeland Security has identified over four hundred immigrants from 583 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 4: Central Asia and elsewhere who crossed into the US in 584 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 4: the past three years as subjects of concern because they 585 00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 4: were brought by an ISIS affiliated human smug network, three 586 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 4: US officials tell NBC News. While over one hundred and 587 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 4: fifty of them have been arrested, the whereabouts of over 588 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 4: fifty remain unknown, the official said, and Immigration and Customs 589 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 4: Enforcement is looking to arrest them on immigration charges when 590 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 4: they are located. One of the US officials and people 591 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 4: said people affiliated with ISIS are operating as human smugglers 592 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 4: in Central Asia and helping people there leave their countries 593 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 4: and travel to the West, where they are smuggled into 594 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 4: the US. It is not known whether the human smuggling 595 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 4: activity directly funds ISIS activities, or whether ISIS members are 596 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 4: making personal money through human smuggling on the side, the 597 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 4: US official said. The official added that the US has 598 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 4: no indication that the more than four hundred migrants brought 599 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 4: to the US by the network have plans to carry 600 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 4: out terrorism in the US, but immigration agents are looking 601 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 4: to arrest them out of an abundance of caution. And 602 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 4: here's a quote from the Bible Administration quote. In this case, 603 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 4: it was the information that suggested a potential tie to 604 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 4: ISIS because some of the individuals involved in smuggling migrants 605 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 4: to the borders, that led us to want to take 606 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 4: extra care and out of an abundance of caution, make 607 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 4: sure that we exercised our authority in the most expansive 608 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 4: and appropriate way to mitigate risk because of this potential 609 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 4: connection being made. 610 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 3: Now that's the. 611 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 4: Quote, And what utter and complete garbage out of an 612 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 4: abundance of caution, Yeah, we let four hundred people go 613 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 4: that ISIS had smuggled into the country because we're so cautious, 614 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 4: and then we realized, wait a second, there's an election. 615 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 4: There's an election coming up in five months, and all 616 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 4: these people that ISIS smuggled in if they carry out 617 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 4: a terrorist attack and people realize we let them go, 618 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 4: that's going to be a real problem. 619 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 3: Oh crap, does anyone know where they are? 620 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 5: Like? 621 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 3: What an insane statement? 622 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 2: Well, and not just insane, but it's also interesting to 623 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 2: see now how the media is covering this. NBC Nightly 624 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 2: News actually ran this on the Nightly News and called 625 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 2: it an NBC investigation. 626 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: Listen tonight. 627 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 8: NBC News has learned more than fifty migrants with potential 628 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 8: ties to an ISIS affiliated smuggling network are at large 629 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 8: in America. Many illegally crossed the border and were released 630 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 8: into the US by border patrol because there was no 631 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:25,359 Speaker 8: information suggesting terrortize at the time. Now their whereabouts are 632 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 8: unknown as immigration agents look to arrest them. 633 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:29,399 Speaker 1: US officials tell. 634 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 8: Us saying they're among a group of over four hundred 635 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 8: migrants DHS identified in the US from Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Moldova, Kyrkistan, Georgia, 636 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 8: and Russia as subjects of concern because they were brought 637 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 8: to the US by an ISIS affiliated smuggling network, something 638 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 8: the FBI director warned about earlier this year. 639 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 2: Some of the overseas facilitators of the smuggling network have 640 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 2: ISIS ties that were very concerned about. 641 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,760 Speaker 8: Ice IS located and arrested over one hundred and fifty 642 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 8: of the four hundred migrants so with some already deported 643 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 8: from the US. Officials say, adding authorities are not panicking 644 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,919 Speaker 8: because their ties to ISIS are not certain, but they're 645 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,760 Speaker 8: prioritizing their arrest out of an abundance of caution. 646 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 5: The problem is the volume of people coming across the 647 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 5: southern border. Individuals from ISIS and other affiliated groups have 648 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 5: recognized it as a weak point in our defense, and 649 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 5: they're using this opportunity to try to sneak in. 650 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 8: NBC News was first to report on a similar arrest 651 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 8: of a newsback man in Baltimore whose country alerted the 652 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 8: US he was affiliated with ISIS. That man, like the 653 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 8: others apprehended so far, was arrested on immigration charges, not 654 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 8: terrorism related charges. ISIS k has claimed responsibility for deadly 655 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,879 Speaker 8: terror attacks in Russia and Iran in the past year, 656 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 8: and recently, the DHS Inspector General sharply criticizing vetting at 657 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 8: the US southern border, saying DHS is at risk of 658 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:59,240 Speaker 8: admitting dangerous persons into the country or enabling asylum seekers 659 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 8: who may pot significant threats to public safety and national 660 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 8: security to continue to reside in the United States. Two 661 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 8: senior law enforcement officials told NBC News they are not 662 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 8: tracking a terror plot from this group of migrants, but 663 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 8: their arrest on immigration charges come out of an abundance 664 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 8: of caution. 665 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 2: Lester, They sure do you like that word center, abundance 666 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 2: of caution? I also love in there. That one line 667 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 2: that really just made me laugh is quote authorities are 668 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,760 Speaker 2: quote not panicking. Really that's supposed to make me feel better. 669 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 4: Well remarkably, though, what they're not panicking about is not 670 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 4: the actual public safety threat. It's not keeping Americans safe. 671 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 4: It's the political exposure. They're freaked out because there's an 672 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 4: election in a few months and they realize, oh no, 673 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 4: this could look really bad for us. It has been 674 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 4: the consistent pattern of this White House that they do 675 00:36:55,520 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 4: not prioritize national security. Everything everything, everything is partisan politics, 676 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 4: and Okay, what I'm about to say, it's not hyperbole. 677 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 4: It is accurate day after day, week after week, month 678 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 4: after month. For three and a half years, Joe Biden 679 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 4: the Democrats have released illegal immigrants who are murderers, who 680 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 4: are rapists, who are child molesters, who are gang members, 681 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 4: and who are being smuggled in by isis K, a 682 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 4: known terrorist organization, and they're letting them go. They're letting 683 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 4: them go the four hundred notice notice in that NBC 684 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 4: report they said they were released by the Biden administration. 685 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 4: So we apprehended them, said, oh, look, isis K bringing 686 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 4: someone in? All right, let's let them go? Like that 687 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 4: is it defies words. And if there were not an 688 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 4: election in five months, I don't think the Biden administration 689 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 4: would be doing anything at all about it. This is 690 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 4: all about cover it up until after election day and 691 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 4: then we can let them go again. And I don't 692 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 4: get Actually, I do not understand the thought process. If 693 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 4: you're Alejandro Mayorcus help me on this, Ben, Seriously, if 694 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 4: you're Alejandro Mayorcis, You're like, hey, four hundred people, isis 695 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 4: case smuggled in? 696 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 3: Should we let them go? Like? 697 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 4: What is how do the brain synapses fire for your 698 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 4: answer to be yep, let them go. 699 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 700 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 2: And the scary part is I think they just say 701 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 2: this is just part of that. You've got to take 702 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 2: the bad with the good, and their definition of good 703 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 2: is letting millions in. So, hey, we know there's gonna 704 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 2: be bad actors in those millions. We can't check them 705 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 2: all out fast enough as we're allowing them to flood 706 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 2: into this country. So that's just our policy. There may 707 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 2: be terrorists to get in here. Oh wait, there are 708 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 2: terrorists to get in here. We know there's people on 709 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,760 Speaker 2: the terrorists watch list, and we're just gonna do it anyway. 710 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 2: But right before the election, we're going to clean it 711 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 2: up a little bit and look like we're being proactive. 712 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 4: I've said this multiple times, but I very much believe it. 713 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 4: We are today at a greater risk of a major 714 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 4: terrorist attack than we have been any time since September eleventh, 715 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 4: and the director of the FBI has been saying that 716 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 4: over and over and over again in congressional testimony. What 717 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 4: the FBI is looking at, I'm confident, is even worse 718 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 4: than what we're talking about. And that is the direct 719 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 4: consequence of utterly reckless policies of open borders, and to 720 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 4: tie this to what we started at the beginning. I 721 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,359 Speaker 4: think this should be front and center what Trump is 722 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 4: talking about tonight at the debate. 723 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 2: I was going to ask you that was gonna be 724 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 2: my final question for you is if CNN doesn't bring 725 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 2: it up, do you force the issue if because I 726 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,360 Speaker 2: have a feeling they're going to be playing defense for 727 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 2: Joe Biden. So does the president go all in on 728 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 2: these type of issues even if they don't bring them up. 729 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, absolutely, yes. 730 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: Bring it up. 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