WEBVTT - Terry McLaurin can SILENCE the 12th Man in Seattle | Command Center Podcast | Washington Commanders 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:04.680 On this episode of the Command Center Podcast, we are 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:07.280 breaking down the Seahawks matchup man a lot of good 0:00:07.280 --> 0:00:09.920 football players on that offense for Seattle, and we're gonna 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:12.360 break down is Geno Smith a one hit wonder and 0:00:12.360 --> 0:00:14.040 Tanna knows him from when he was little kids? That's 0:00:14.080 --> 0:00:16.520 kind of fun story. And we're gonna talk about don't 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:19.279 quote me, Buck quote me, and Santana Moss is leaving 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:20.960 that leaving that segment, make sure to check it out. 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:30.160 Welcome to the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:34.560 with Santana Moss and Fred Smooth. And if you didn't 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:38.000 check out the Command Center show, here is your mockneck 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:38.800 mock nick. 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:41.640 Yeah, so I was wrong. Yeah, but I told you 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:44.080 he ain't had a neck because it's damn his job 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:47.000 one right there, mock nick. 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:48.000 Different from a turntail. 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:49.680 But I also like this shirt because it makes you 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:50.600 look like you got muscles. 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:52.560 Hey, you know, what is it legal for me to 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:54.920 ride through Washington, DC with my own way? I know 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:59.600 it's a good And by the way, speaking of them, 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:03.080 have you ever went to the fish market in Seattle? 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:05.240 I never went fish I wasn't so when we went 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:06.800 in two thousand. Was that twenty ten? 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:06.960 Ten? 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:07.360 Yeah? 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:09.880 Ten? When we went twenty ten, I went and visited 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:10.640 the Starbucks. 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:12.759 Hey, listen, I went down to the fish market. 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:14.320 Yeah, tried to catch your fish. 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:15.039 I got hit an. 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:19.080 Eye before the game, black my eye before the game, 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:21.440 because I think it was like not just the fish 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:24.800 hit me, and I like some of the juice, the spikes, 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:25.440 like you know. 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:27.200 Yeah. 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:28.920 So I'm sitting there with a black eye trying to 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:31.080 explain my DV coach Jared Gray. 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:32.400 You're like, something's wrong. 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:34.360 You got in a fight at the restaurant of it 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:37.640 and I got hit by a fish. 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:38.360 That happened? 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:40.680 Did you like, because like you stay in downtown, right, 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:42.039 you just walked over there or something. 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:44.120 No, we just caught Listen. The one thing about me 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:46.280 anytime we went and play so well, me and Mike 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:48.760 with dB, we finna go out and have dinner, go 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:51.600 see the city, all right. So we went in a 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:55.680 dinner at the at the Needle. Okay, we ate at 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:57.640 the the Needle. Then we were like, come on, let's go, 0:01:57.720 --> 0:01:59.600 let's go to the fish market. So we went in 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:03.000 the fish y'all y'all Washington players and they were like, yeah, 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:04.120 can you catch this fish. 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:05.520 I'm like, yeah, I could catch you anything. 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:09.320 We dude, this the big fish, right, yeah, I'm. 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:12.000 Talking about like a thirty pound fish. I'm like, man, 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:13.919 you crazy all here tossing fish. 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:14.280 See. 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:16.640 I was somewhere, probably in the room, eating some Jamaican 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:18.360 food or something like that. I didn't know. 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:20.200 I never liked leaving the hotel because I was like, 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:22.040 I always had to go, especially meetings and stuff. So 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:27.120 I was always you know, yeah, yeah. 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:29.720 I remember. I remember. I remember the twenty ten game 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:32.560 when we played up there man Anthony Armstrong Man. He 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:35.520 came through with a clutch, big touchdown to I think 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:38.560 put us ahead. But we played the kind of game 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:40.360 like if you go back and think about that game, 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:44.640 we stayed right there and then it was like a 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:46.920 run play here that I remember making a key block. 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:49.200 I remember because Cal got on me about the block. 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:50.639 He was telling me, you got to get that safety 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:52.519 tail when you get in there. They show us just look, 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:55.560 you gotta get that, and I got no Cam was 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:57.880 in there. He was more like that. Two years later, 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:00.240 he was twenty twelve, twenty eleven. Matter fact, the next 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:03.080 year can whoever it was, I didn't even have to 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:05.200 do much. I kind of went in there and I'm 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:07.600 not sure if it was Royce or Hallou or was 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:10.880 it it was Hallou. I just basically shield the safety. 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:14.160 Lou came right off my backside, man and gone, and 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:15.720 that gave us the first down, and then we hit 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:18.799 deep down the sideline and I remember, I'm like, man, 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:20.919 we just won. So but I've had a lot of 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:24.160 memories up there, man, from five when I first got here, 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:25.920 losing to them in the playoffs. We had beat him 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:28.359 earlier that year at home. I had one hundred something 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:31.160 plus y'alls in that second round playoff game and we lost. 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:33.680 But Seattle's been one of those teams been thrown and 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:34.760 how you know what, we. 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:37.160 Always play him and Tampa Bay, and like we got 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:38.760 to play one of them to get to the next 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:40.400 level of the playoffs every year. 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:43.720 Yeah, let's talk about this iteration of the Seattle team. Obviously, 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:45.600 we've had a lot of our own different experiences there. 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:47.400 You know, twenty twelve, we played them in the playoffs here, 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:50.000 lost all those types of things. But this team very 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:51.800 very different. Let's start high level. Let's start on the 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:56.440 offensive side of the football. You know, Smith, So everyone's 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:58.080 talking about how Seattle's out as good as they were 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:00.360 last year potentially, and there's been this regrets and and 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:03.200 to me, it all starts with Gino. He's just not 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:04.920 taking care of the football the same way, and he's 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:07.200 putting the ball in arms way and it's made it 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:08.880 difficult for them to be afficial offensively. 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:10.200 Do you think he got a case of the fat 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:10.920 rats disease? 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:13.280 I don't. I mean, he got paid, but like he's 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:14.920 a guy that I don't know how you get fats 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:18.520 rats when you've been like pseudo back up, yeah, backup 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:19.640 for like five or six years. 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:22.840 I've always I've always found that because Gino is a guy. 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:24.279 He grew up in my hometown. I went to school 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:26.159 his mom and his dad high school. 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:28.679 What Yeah, so we went to school with Gino Smith's 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:29.159 mom and dad. 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:31.960 Yeah, we and have forty man. So he was a 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:35.440 kid man that I watched play little high His high 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:37.479 school was called Mera Mahagh and they was right next 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:38.359 door to my high school. 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:40.280 You can't be that whole much older than him, can you. 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:40.960 Come on with. 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:42.640 Years? 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:46.040 I mean, but he's how old is he? 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:46.760 So? No? 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:49.760 Probably twenty seven now he's probably thirties. He probably in 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:51.760 his thirties now, I mean his mom and dad probably 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:53.320 had him when we was we was in high team 0:04:55.040 --> 0:05:01.359 in high school, they had him round joke, but I 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:06.320 had to throw that one. Smart guys. I've always looked 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:08.000 at him as a gun slinger. You know, when he 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:09.960 was in West Virginia, he was a gun sling him 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:12.039 and as that's one of the reasons why when he 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:13.840 came in here he had to mature a little bit 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:17.240 because in the league, those windows are much smaller, and 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:20.520 I think sitting in Seattle kind of going bouncing around, 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:23.040 he grew up a lot. And then going to Seattle 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:26.560 being under you know, Russell and watching how that offense 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:29.960 was the difference between those two guys. They both gun slingers, 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:32.400 but Russell was a guy that he would add little 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:34.440 a lot more than Gino. Gino is a guy. Man. 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:36.360 You give a man, she's gonna take a mile, and 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:39.880 so you look at it now. I believe now that 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:41.920 he's a starter. A lot of teams have caught up 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:44.360 to what he does and what they're doing now more 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:47.440 so is having title, giving him tightle windows, having better 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:50.000 coverage and getting after him knowing that he's not a 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:51.839 guy that can escape the pocket and do so. You know, 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:53.880 he's not a speed guy. He's not a guy that's 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:56.400 that you know, agile side of the pocket. So they 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:59.640 forcing him to like, okay, be an athlete or find 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:01.960 that when and that one is not always there. He 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:04.760 got turned the confidence in his arm and he's trying 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:07.919 to make those throws and eventually it comes back to 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:11.400 him even overthrowing the guy or give him away here. 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:14.360 That was damn near brillion. I can't really say nothing 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:17.760 about that was really right on what I was gonna 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:20.160 say about him, because the one thing when Gino gets 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:23.120 in trouble, it's on overthrows and them overthrow because he 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:25.560 think I got the to get it in this one dude, 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:27.640 when I have to. But like he said, he don't 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:30.280 make a lot of off schedule plays. So if they 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:33.680 ain't on schedule, now you just force him to say 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:36.799 how patient is Gino? Because I'm gonna play deep zone 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:39.599 and force him to dump dump dump dump dump. That 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:41.760 ain't what he really want to do. Gino want to 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:44.280 push the ball down the field. And I really think 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:46.960 the reason they regressed a little bit to me is 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:50.120 not Gino. It's the run game. I feel like they 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:53.120 ran the ball, not at a higher clip last year, 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:54.280 but just more effective. 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:56.400 They've been pretty efficial running football this year. When you 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:58.200 look at the numbers, right, they got two running backs 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:02.200 Sharpernay and and they both are pretty good. They're both 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:04.560 over four yard four point three yards to carry, so 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:07.320 that's pretty solid obviously for them. I think to your point, 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:09.760 the thing that's been really surprising when you watch their 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:12.240 offense is they take a lot of sacks. Their offensive 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:14.880 line is kind of in, yeah, okay, there we go, yep, 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:16.680 all right, I was gonna say it that way, but 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:18.880 they're not. They're not playing that well. Right. They've got 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:21.600 a lot of backups there, Lucas. They're starting right tackle. 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:23.640 The rookie they drafted from Washington State last year. He 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:26.440 got hurt on their backup guy. The backup guy gets hurt. 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:29.200 There's been games this year where that the third the 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:33.040 fourth tackle is playing significant minutes for them, and he's 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:33.720 a saw. 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:35.440 I ain't even cut you. I just saw what a 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:38.560 dude name is from Phillip Peters. Peter. He's the right 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:42.040 tackle played last week play with us. 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:45.040 Yeah he's an old man, but but I think that 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:46.760 that's the issue that they're run into is they take 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:49.160 a lot of sacks. They're their running backs are very 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:52.640 very talented. Walker and Charbonney are excellent football players in 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:55.600 the screen game like they're just good football players, you know. 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:58.200 And I think the thing you mentioned Tanna mentioned about 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:00.160 him or you you mentioned about pushing the football on 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:03.720 the field, this offense is so predicated on pushing the 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:07.640 ball down the field. They are looking for chunks, explosive plays, 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:10.360 and I think that's really reflected and how inefficient they've 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:13.119 been on third down. They are the third worst team 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:15.880 in the NFL and there are some bad football teams 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:18.880 right now. In third down conversion play, Yeah, third down 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:23.200 conversion percentage, they are terrible. They're thirty one point seven percent, 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:26.160 which is bad. Right. So basically, if they don't get 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:29.920 a big explosive play, they can't sustain drives long enough 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:31.120 to score. And then when they get to the red 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:33.760 zone because their third down efficiency is so poor, they 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:36.560 have to kick field goals. It's it's really interesting to 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:38.680 watch game flow for them because they they move the 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:42.600 ball pretty well. It's like, here's a huge play to Metcalf, 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:44.720 here's a huge play to lock it underneath. Here's a 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:47.760 here's a Jackson's with an jigbuck catching the ball and 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:49.559 you know, breaking a tackle running for twenty. Here's a 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:52.240 running back screen. Here's an explosive run from the running back. 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:55.480 And then the offense just gets into neutral and Gino 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:57.120 you said, he wants to sit in the pocket and 0:08:57.160 --> 0:08:59.480 behind that offensive line like they're just he can't do it, 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:01.599 and it's it's it's the offensive line. It's kind of 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:05.440 what we saw earlier this year. The offensive line and 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:08.200 the fact that the concept is so down the field 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:10.439 it really hurts don't yes, it. 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:13.360 Hurts them splash player away here and there from really 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:15.600 being you. That's how I want, you know, when I'm 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:18.360 watching it, I'm sitting there like nothing's going on. Then Bean, 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:20.880 you got Metca running for a fifty yard Well you 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:23.640 got Bean, you got Locking locking it hitting you deep 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:28.200 at Locking way more dangerous than all those guys. But 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:31.040 I just it's crazy that there's nothing going on. And 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:33.040 then bomb, i'mna hit you with a bomb. I'ma hit 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:35.360 you with something deep, and that gets them going. 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:37.320 And they got a lot of good players on that side. 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:39.120 I mean, obviously we mentioned Locking and d I think 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:41.680 dk is you see some of his limitations, like some 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:43.120 of the stuff they were talking about when he came out, 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:46.160 Like obviously he's big, he's physical, he's that fifty to 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:50.480 fifty contested touch guy. He is explosive with the football 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:52.400 in his hands when he gets the ball running like 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:55.280 good luck going to get down. This year, they've gotten 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:57.640 away from like these deep crossing routes with him where 0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:00.000 you can catch and run. It's like straight vertical route 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:04.040 like goes, comebacks, posts, And I think it's really hurt 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:04.920 his game quite honestly. 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:07.160 Yeah, Yeah, I saw his only catch, well, the only 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:10.600 catch of the half last name Baltimore, Baltimore game. Was 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:12.559 his first catch of the game was a fifty yard 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:15.080 and when he ran that was the first that was 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:17.199 his first catch, the first attempt. Everything. But one of 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:19.320 the things, it's crazy that you bring up Medcab because 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:22.360 and I'm gonna use this in my segment that we 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:24.199 got coming up. Don't quote me, but quote me. 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:26.280 Yeah, we go all right, put it out there. 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:28.800 But one of the things about Metcab, as much as 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:30.720 we want to sit there and talk about what he 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:34.839 can't do, spanker any given moment on that field, to 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:36.560 destroy you, and it's just one of those guys. 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:38.280 I think that's a frustrating thing about it for me 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:40.520 as a fan of him in that skill set, it's like, 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:43.160 why are we not doing this every game? Why we're 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:44.760 not using him in this way? Why are we trying 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:46.760 to hit him on a go every single But but you. 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:48.280 Know what I think it is, and it's this is 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:50.079 something that we talk about a lot here and there's 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:54.440 a guy who knows it off too well. Quarterbacks make you, 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:56.800 and that shows you the limitations they have in Geno. No, 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:59.280 don't get me wrong, I love Geno, hometown kid. Glad 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:01.080 to see him Rarei's I'm glad to see he's finally 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:04.960 became that guy. But even with all those intangibles he has, 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:09.160 he just ain't enough consistent. It's not enough consistent quarterback 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:13.800 play to for Metcalf to be the guy he was 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:15.240 with Russell. You see what I'm saying, Like when he 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:17.400 was with Russell, he could just do whatever he wanted 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:18.920 to do because Russell was gonna find him. 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:20.679 He was gonna live and find a way to get 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:23.800 the quarterbacks. If I want to be a good quarterback, 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:26.000 I've always said in my head. I'm gonna get it 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:26.840 to my best. 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:29.360 But you know what, man, it's all about It's all 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:32.199 about design of that play. It's all about the progression 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:35.800 of that those routes. And half the time those quarterbacks, 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:38.120 a lot of quarterbacks don't have the kahunas to go 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:39.959 outside of what the coach is called. You know what 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:42.920 I'm saying, Like Marble now going outside? That tell me back, 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:47.800 I'm going at you being in Testaburdy, I'm going outside, Jason, 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:50.800 I ain't see nothing, You ain't seen nothing. But that 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:53.679 was my guy. But still, like who else the guy 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:57.160 we had here? I like Logan, not Logan, Todd, Todd, 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:00.640 Todd Collins. Todd Collins. Gonna go to the old guys. 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:03.080 So you have some of these guys who I'm calling them, 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:06.160 they they were seasoned, they was lathered, they was veterans, 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:10.080 but they was guys that understood. Man, this guy gonna 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:12.080 make me. So I'm gonna go to this guy. And 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:14.200 some of these quarterbacks get a little caught up into 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:16.040 who they are more so than the guys you have. 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:19.520 That's really that guy. But that's why I always look 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:22.000 at other people offenses and say, man, that's only that's 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:24.240 the only thing that I was kind of like lacking. 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:26.000 I didn't have a team where I could just be 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:29.120 the guy, but you know, just to speed things up, man, 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:31.600 that's what I'm thinking. That's what's going on with Metcalf. 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:34.760 I think Metcalf can be more. The Metcalf that we 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:38.880 saw before is just quarterback play ain't up the park. 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:42.320 So we haven't really talked about the defense yet. For Seattle, 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:43.880 we'll hold off on that for one second. I want 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:45.800 to just ask this question because I think that's really interesting. 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:47.880 So who has the better receiver group? Do you think? 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:51.960 Is it Seattle? Is it Washington? Because I look at 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:54.839 this depth chart for Seattle and I'm like, holy cow, man, 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:57.160 they got Metcalf, they got Locked, they got Jackson Smith 0:12:57.240 --> 0:13:00.160 and and Jake, but they got Jake Bobo, that kid 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:00.360 from me. 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:05.280 I like him. He's tow like coming out of college. 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:07.320 So ran a terrible for that though. 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:13.439 On paper we look explosive, we look dynamic coming into 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:15.920 this season with what we have. But I will be 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:19.760 on the record to say that those guys can Seattle 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:22.200 a little better than us. I think because of I 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:29.440 think it's not because of just ability, it's just. 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:29.080 Just they just feel more dynamic. 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:32.800 No, it's not even the size, and it's just they've 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:35.040 been here. They've been they've been here long enough, they've 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:38.079 done it long enough. You know, a locket, the guy 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:40.240 who you don't even give them enough credit to. He's 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:43.840 out there killing your best. He'll kill you in week out. 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:46.480 You got a metcalf who man like you just give 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:48.760 him the worst ball you can, just throw it up 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:50.480 to him. He's gonna go across the mill. He's gonna 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:52.200 hurt your safety trying to hear him. He's gonna make 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:54.040 the play, you know what I mean, Brother, you have 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:55.920 to catch or not. He's gonna make a play. And 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:58.040 then you have this kid now that just Jackson Smith 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:01.760 and he's been phenomenal. So that's the thing that's scary 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:03.840 about them. And that's something that I was like, you know, 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:06.160 I'm gonna talk about later when I talk about these 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:08.520 you know their matchup against our defensive backs, because you 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:11.160 talked about that. You know that that's one of your matchups, 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:13.400 that's one of your that's one of your favorites, going 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:16.640 up against our dbs against their their wide receiver. I'm 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:18.440 scared of that, bro, I'm gonna be real with you 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:21.680 because I know we are prone to give giving up 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:23.760 with the big play explosives. And I don't want this 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:25.400 to be the team that say we're gonna make them 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:26.000 look think that. 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:29.000 We even all over say that's how they play the makeup. 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:30.480 They might be a little bit. They might have one 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:32.640 or two more guys than the Eagles have in their cores, 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:34.560 and they can easily be that same kind of. 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:37.280 Funny because when I look at these wide receiving cords, 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:42.640 I try to just go slot slot slot. I. Number one, Terry. 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:44.320 Who would you really have? Terry or DK? 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:46.040 Yeah, it's tough. 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:48.480 I think I think Locke's more than number one than DK. 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:50.480 No, no, no, I'm gonna get to him. But but 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:52.720 I would say DK is probably you know that they 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:54.760 want to hate right now? So who would you rather have? 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:56.200 Terry a DK? 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:56.440 Mixing? 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:58.640 For what we do, it's easy to say Terry, But 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:00.840 for what the league will look at, they would pick 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:03.360 DK all right off. 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:07.720 Yeah, number two, the number two receivers, Johann a Locket. 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:11.080 Who'd you ready? R Han is great? You know we 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:12.520 like his potential. 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:15.520 Three wide receivers, all right, would you ready to have 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:18.840 Curtis Samuel's Jackson Smith and didn't I ready have Curtis Samuel. 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:21.240 I say, Curtis might have a little more season than 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:23.480 that kid, and Curtis a little faster than them. 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:25.120 And I could use Curtis. 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:28.960 So so it's kind of like it. But what I'm 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:31.040 saying is so if you look at it like that, 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:33.280 then it's a toss up. But from just the play, 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:35.240 I know, I say what you say because I feel 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:37.320 like you can understand. You got to put into all 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:40.080 contexts that we're learning a new offense. Yeah, you know 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:42.520 what I mean, We're not. We're still gathering the information 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:45.120 and trying to you know, play on the same page, 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:48.640 which I've seen a lot of progress. These guys they 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:50.200 out there running, they're gone, you know what I mean. 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:52.400 They love young guy. We was waiting for him to 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:54.240 get going, and he's been he's didn't make a hell 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:57.280 of a play. So if we can put the pressure 0:15:57.520 --> 0:16:02.400 and put you know, Gino into one of those panic moments, 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:05.400 then now they play into our hands. But we let 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:07.960 him have his time, it could be scary out there 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:08.920 for our defensive backs. 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:10.760 Yeah, I think that's the thing, is like, because we 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:12.480 do you know, we do a lot of we give 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:14.760 up a lot of big explosive plays. This is a 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:17.120 big exposive play offense. Like, can we manage some of that? 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:18.000 It's gonna be a big deal. 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:18.560 Let's talk. 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:20.400 Let's talk a little bit about the defense real quick. 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:24.600 So their their defense. I think their defense is interesting, right, 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:27.920 because it's it's not overly complicated, right. 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:31.280 I think it's pretty They play simple and fast. 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:33.600 Pretty straightforward. They do big pressures, and they're good at 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:37.000 the pressures they bring. They bring them in good moments, 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:39.680 critical moments, and they're fast with them. But they're not complicated. 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:42.080 And like you mentioned, it's cover two, it's Cover three, 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:46.320 it's man, it's nothing crazy. How do you think Sam 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:48.680