Speaker 1: On this episode of the Command Center Podcast, we are
Speaker 1: breaking down the Seahawks matchup man a lot of good
Speaker 1: football players on that offense for Seattle, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: break down is Geno Smith a one hit wonder and
Speaker 1: Tanna knows him from when he was little kids? That's
Speaker 1: kind of fun story. And we're gonna talk about don't
Speaker 1: quote me, Buck quote me, and Santana Moss is leaving
Speaker 1: that leaving that segment, make sure to check it out.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here
Speaker 1: with Santana Moss and Fred Smooth. And if you didn't
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Speaker 1: mock nick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I was wrong. Yeah, but I told you
Speaker 2: he ain't had a neck because it's damn his job
Speaker 2: one right there, mock nick.
Speaker 3: Different from a turntail.
Speaker 1: But I also like this shirt because it makes you
Speaker 1: look like you got muscles.
Speaker 3: Hey, you know, what is it legal for me to
Speaker 3: ride through Washington, DC with my own way? I know
Speaker 3: it's a good And by the way, speaking of them,
Speaker 3: have you ever went to the fish market in Seattle?
Speaker 3: I never went fish I wasn't so when we went
Speaker 3: in two thousand. Was that twenty ten?
Speaker 1: Ten?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Ten? When we went twenty ten, I went and visited
Speaker 1: the Starbucks.
Speaker 3: Hey, listen, I went down to the fish market.
Speaker 1: Yeah, tried to catch your fish.
Speaker 2: I got hit an.
Speaker 4: Eye before the game, black my eye before the game,
Speaker 4: because I think it was like not just the fish
Speaker 4: hit me, and I like some of the juice, the spikes,
Speaker 4: like you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I'm sitting there with a black eye trying to
Speaker 3: explain my DV coach Jared Gray.
Speaker 2: You're like, something's wrong.
Speaker 3: You got in a fight at the restaurant of it
Speaker 3: and I got hit by a fish.
Speaker 2: That happened?
Speaker 1: Did you like, because like you stay in downtown, right,
Speaker 1: you just walked over there or something.
Speaker 3: No, we just caught Listen. The one thing about me
Speaker 3: anytime we went and play so well, me and Mike
Speaker 3: with dB, we finna go out and have dinner, go
Speaker 3: see the city, all right. So we went in a
Speaker 3: dinner at the at the Needle. Okay, we ate at
Speaker 3: the the Needle. Then we were like, come on, let's go,
Speaker 3: let's go to the fish market. So we went in
Speaker 3: the fish y'all y'all Washington players and they were like, yeah,
Speaker 3: can you catch this fish.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I could catch you anything.
Speaker 1: We dude, this the big fish, right, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 3: Talking about like a thirty pound fish. I'm like, man,
Speaker 3: you crazy all here tossing fish.
Speaker 1: See.
Speaker 2: I was somewhere, probably in the room, eating some Jamaican
Speaker 2: food or something like that. I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I never liked leaving the hotel because I was like,
Speaker 1: I always had to go, especially meetings and stuff. So
Speaker 1: I was always you know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I remember. I remember. I remember the twenty ten game
Speaker 2: when we played up there man Anthony Armstrong Man. He
Speaker 2: came through with a clutch, big touchdown to I think
Speaker 2: put us ahead. But we played the kind of game
Speaker 2: like if you go back and think about that game,
Speaker 2: we stayed right there and then it was like a
Speaker 2: run play here that I remember making a key block.
Speaker 2: I remember because Cal got on me about the block.
Speaker 2: He was telling me, you got to get that safety
Speaker 2: tail when you get in there. They show us just look,
Speaker 2: you gotta get that, and I got no Cam was
Speaker 2: in there. He was more like that. Two years later,
Speaker 2: he was twenty twelve, twenty eleven. Matter fact, the next
Speaker 2: year can whoever it was, I didn't even have to
Speaker 2: do much. I kind of went in there and I'm
Speaker 2: not sure if it was Royce or Hallou or was
Speaker 2: it it was Hallou. I just basically shield the safety.
Speaker 2: Lou came right off my backside, man and gone, and
Speaker 2: that gave us the first down, and then we hit
Speaker 2: deep down the sideline and I remember, I'm like, man,
Speaker 2: we just won. So but I've had a lot of
Speaker 2: memories up there, man, from five when I first got here,
Speaker 2: losing to them in the playoffs. We had beat him
Speaker 2: earlier that year at home. I had one hundred something
Speaker 2: plus y'alls in that second round playoff game and we lost.
Speaker 2: But Seattle's been one of those teams been thrown and
Speaker 2: how you know what, we.
Speaker 3: Always play him and Tampa Bay, and like we got
Speaker 3: to play one of them to get to the next
Speaker 3: level of the playoffs every year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about this iteration of the Seattle team. Obviously,
Speaker 1: we've had a lot of our own different experiences there.
Speaker 1: You know, twenty twelve, we played them in the playoffs here,
Speaker 1: lost all those types of things. But this team very
Speaker 1: very different. Let's start high level. Let's start on the
Speaker 1: offensive side of the football. You know, Smith, So everyone's
Speaker 1: talking about how Seattle's out as good as they were
Speaker 1: last year potentially, and there's been this regrets and and
Speaker 1: to me, it all starts with Gino. He's just not
Speaker 1: taking care of the football the same way, and he's
Speaker 1: putting the ball in arms way and it's made it
Speaker 1: difficult for them to be afficial offensively.
Speaker 3: Do you think he got a case of the fat
Speaker 3: rats disease?
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, he got paid, but like he's
Speaker 1: a guy that I don't know how you get fats
Speaker 1: rats when you've been like pseudo back up, yeah, backup
Speaker 1: for like five or six years.
Speaker 2: I've always I've always found that because Gino is a guy.
Speaker 2: He grew up in my hometown. I went to school
Speaker 2: his mom and his dad high school.
Speaker 1: What Yeah, so we went to school with Gino Smith's
Speaker 1: mom and dad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we and have forty man. So he was a
Speaker 2: kid man that I watched play little high His high
Speaker 2: school was called Mera Mahagh and they was right next
Speaker 2: door to my high school.
Speaker 1: You can't be that whole much older than him, can you.
Speaker 2: Come on with.
Speaker 1: Years?
Speaker 2: I mean, but he's how old is he?
Speaker 1: So? No?
Speaker 2: Probably twenty seven now he's probably thirties. He probably in
Speaker 2: his thirties now, I mean his mom and dad probably
Speaker 2: had him when we was we was in high team
Speaker 2: in high school, they had him round joke, but I
Speaker 2: had to throw that one. Smart guys. I've always looked
Speaker 2: at him as a gun slinger. You know, when he
Speaker 2: was in West Virginia, he was a gun sling him
Speaker 2: and as that's one of the reasons why when he
Speaker 2: came in here he had to mature a little bit
Speaker 2: because in the league, those windows are much smaller, and
Speaker 2: I think sitting in Seattle kind of going bouncing around,
Speaker 2: he grew up a lot. And then going to Seattle
Speaker 2: being under you know, Russell and watching how that offense
Speaker 2: was the difference between those two guys. They both gun slingers,
Speaker 2: but Russell was a guy that he would add little
Speaker 2: a lot more than Gino. Gino is a guy. Man.
Speaker 2: You give a man, she's gonna take a mile, and
Speaker 2: so you look at it now. I believe now that
Speaker 2: he's a starter. A lot of teams have caught up
Speaker 2: to what he does and what they're doing now more
Speaker 2: so is having title, giving him tightle windows, having better
Speaker 2: coverage and getting after him knowing that he's not a
Speaker 2: guy that can escape the pocket and do so. You know,
Speaker 2: he's not a speed guy. He's not a guy that's
Speaker 2: that you know, agile side of the pocket. So they
Speaker 2: forcing him to like, okay, be an athlete or find
Speaker 2: that when and that one is not always there. He
Speaker 2: got turned the confidence in his arm and he's trying
Speaker 2: to make those throws and eventually it comes back to
Speaker 2: him even overthrowing the guy or give him away here.
Speaker 3: That was damn near brillion. I can't really say nothing
Speaker 3: about that was really right on what I was gonna
Speaker 3: say about him, because the one thing when Gino gets
Speaker 3: in trouble, it's on overthrows and them overthrow because he
Speaker 3: think I got the to get it in this one dude,
Speaker 3: when I have to. But like he said, he don't
Speaker 3: make a lot of off schedule plays. So if they
Speaker 3: ain't on schedule, now you just force him to say
Speaker 3: how patient is Gino? Because I'm gonna play deep zone
Speaker 3: and force him to dump dump dump dump dump. That
Speaker 3: ain't what he really want to do. Gino want to
Speaker 3: push the ball down the field. And I really think
Speaker 3: the reason they regressed a little bit to me is
Speaker 3: not Gino. It's the run game. I feel like they
Speaker 3: ran the ball, not at a higher clip last year,
Speaker 3: but just more effective.
Speaker 1: They've been pretty efficial running football this year. When you
Speaker 1: look at the numbers, right, they got two running backs
Speaker 1: Sharpernay and and they both are pretty good. They're both
Speaker 1: over four yard four point three yards to carry, so
Speaker 1: that's pretty solid obviously for them. I think to your point,
Speaker 1: the thing that's been really surprising when you watch their
Speaker 1: offense is they take a lot of sacks. Their offensive
Speaker 1: line is kind of in, yeah, okay, there we go, yep,
Speaker 1: all right, I was gonna say it that way, but
Speaker 1: they're not. They're not playing that well. Right. They've got
Speaker 1: a lot of backups there, Lucas. They're starting right tackle.
Speaker 1: The rookie they drafted from Washington State last year. He
Speaker 1: got hurt on their backup guy. The backup guy gets hurt.
Speaker 1: There's been games this year where that the third the
Speaker 1: fourth tackle is playing significant minutes for them, and he's
Speaker 1: a saw.
Speaker 2: I ain't even cut you. I just saw what a
Speaker 2: dude name is from Phillip Peters. Peter. He's the right
Speaker 2: tackle played last week play with us.
Speaker 1: Yeah he's an old man, but but I think that
Speaker 1: that's the issue that they're run into is they take
Speaker 1: a lot of sacks. They're their running backs are very
Speaker 1: very talented. Walker and Charbonney are excellent football players in
Speaker 1: the screen game like they're just good football players, you know.
Speaker 1: And I think the thing you mentioned Tanna mentioned about
Speaker 1: him or you you mentioned about pushing the football on
Speaker 1: the field, this offense is so predicated on pushing the
Speaker 1: ball down the field. They are looking for chunks, explosive plays,
Speaker 1: and I think that's really reflected and how inefficient they've
Speaker 1: been on third down. They are the third worst team
Speaker 1: in the NFL and there are some bad football teams
Speaker 1: right now. In third down conversion play, Yeah, third down
Speaker 1: conversion percentage, they are terrible. They're thirty one point seven percent,
Speaker 1: which is bad. Right. So basically, if they don't get
Speaker 1: a big explosive play, they can't sustain drives long enough
Speaker 1: to score. And then when they get to the red
Speaker 1: zone because their third down efficiency is so poor, they
Speaker 1: have to kick field goals. It's it's really interesting to
Speaker 1: watch game flow for them because they they move the
Speaker 1: ball pretty well. It's like, here's a huge play to Metcalf,
Speaker 1: here's a huge play to lock it underneath. Here's a
Speaker 1: here's a Jackson's with an jigbuck catching the ball and
Speaker 1: you know, breaking a tackle running for twenty. Here's a
Speaker 1: running back screen. Here's an explosive run from the running back.
Speaker 1: And then the offense just gets into neutral and Gino
Speaker 1: you said, he wants to sit in the pocket and
Speaker 1: behind that offensive line like they're just he can't do it,
Speaker 1: and it's it's it's the offensive line. It's kind of
Speaker 1: what we saw earlier this year. The offensive line and
Speaker 1: the fact that the concept is so down the field
Speaker 1: it really hurts don't yes, it.
Speaker 2: Hurts them splash player away here and there from really
Speaker 2: being you. That's how I want, you know, when I'm
Speaker 2: watching it, I'm sitting there like nothing's going on. Then Bean,
Speaker 2: you got Metca running for a fifty yard Well you
Speaker 2: got Bean, you got Locking locking it hitting you deep
Speaker 2: at Locking way more dangerous than all those guys. But
Speaker 2: I just it's crazy that there's nothing going on. And
Speaker 2: then bomb, i'mna hit you with a bomb. I'ma hit
Speaker 2: you with something deep, and that gets them going.
Speaker 1: And they got a lot of good players on that side.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously we mentioned Locking and d I think
Speaker 1: dk is you see some of his limitations, like some
Speaker 1: of the stuff they were talking about when he came out,
Speaker 1: Like obviously he's big, he's physical, he's that fifty to
Speaker 1: fifty contested touch guy. He is explosive with the football
Speaker 1: in his hands when he gets the ball running like
Speaker 1: good luck going to get down. This year, they've gotten
Speaker 1: away from like these deep crossing routes with him where
Speaker 1: you can catch and run. It's like straight vertical route
Speaker 1: like goes, comebacks, posts, And I think it's really hurt
Speaker 1: his game quite honestly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I saw his only catch, well, the only
Speaker 2: catch of the half last name Baltimore, Baltimore game. Was
Speaker 2: his first catch of the game was a fifty yard
Speaker 2: and when he ran that was the first that was
Speaker 2: his first catch, the first attempt. Everything. But one of
Speaker 2: the things, it's crazy that you bring up Medcab because
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna use this in my segment that we
Speaker 2: got coming up. Don't quote me, but quote me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we go all right, put it out there.
Speaker 2: But one of the things about Metcab, as much as
Speaker 2: we want to sit there and talk about what he
Speaker 2: can't do, spanker any given moment on that field, to
Speaker 2: destroy you, and it's just one of those guys.
Speaker 1: I think that's a frustrating thing about it for me
Speaker 1: as a fan of him in that skill set, it's like,
Speaker 1: why are we not doing this every game? Why we're
Speaker 1: not using him in this way? Why are we trying
Speaker 1: to hit him on a go every single But but you.
Speaker 2: Know what I think it is, and it's this is
Speaker 2: something that we talk about a lot here and there's
Speaker 2: a guy who knows it off too well. Quarterbacks make you,
Speaker 2: and that shows you the limitations they have in Geno. No,
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, I love Geno, hometown kid. Glad
Speaker 2: to see him Rarei's I'm glad to see he's finally
Speaker 2: became that guy. But even with all those intangibles he has,
Speaker 2: he just ain't enough consistent. It's not enough consistent quarterback
Speaker 2: play to for Metcalf to be the guy he was
Speaker 2: with Russell. You see what I'm saying, Like when he
Speaker 2: was with Russell, he could just do whatever he wanted
Speaker 2: to do because Russell was gonna find him.
Speaker 3: He was gonna live and find a way to get
Speaker 3: the quarterbacks. If I want to be a good quarterback,
Speaker 3: I've always said in my head. I'm gonna get it
Speaker 3: to my best.
Speaker 2: But you know what, man, it's all about It's all
Speaker 2: about design of that play. It's all about the progression
Speaker 2: of that those routes. And half the time those quarterbacks,
Speaker 2: a lot of quarterbacks don't have the kahunas to go
Speaker 2: outside of what the coach is called. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like Marble now going outside? That tell me back,
Speaker 2: I'm going at you being in Testaburdy, I'm going outside, Jason,
Speaker 2: I ain't see nothing, You ain't seen nothing. But that
Speaker 2: was my guy. But still, like who else the guy
Speaker 2: we had here? I like Logan, not Logan, Todd, Todd,
Speaker 2: Todd Collins. Todd Collins. Gonna go to the old guys.
Speaker 2: So you have some of these guys who I'm calling them,
Speaker 2: they they were seasoned, they was lathered, they was veterans,
Speaker 2: but they was guys that understood. Man, this guy gonna
Speaker 2: make me. So I'm gonna go to this guy. And
Speaker 2: some of these quarterbacks get a little caught up into
Speaker 2: who they are more so than the guys you have.
Speaker 2: That's really that guy. But that's why I always look
Speaker 2: at other people offenses and say, man, that's only that's
Speaker 2: the only thing that I was kind of like lacking.
Speaker 2: I didn't have a team where I could just be
Speaker 2: the guy, but you know, just to speed things up, man,
Speaker 2: that's what I'm thinking. That's what's going on with Metcalf.
Speaker 2: I think Metcalf can be more. The Metcalf that we
Speaker 2: saw before is just quarterback play ain't up the park.
Speaker 1: So we haven't really talked about the defense yet. For Seattle,
Speaker 1: we'll hold off on that for one second. I want
Speaker 1: to just ask this question because I think that's really interesting.
Speaker 1: So who has the better receiver group? Do you think?
Speaker 1: Is it Seattle? Is it Washington? Because I look at
Speaker 1: this depth chart for Seattle and I'm like, holy cow, man,
Speaker 1: they got Metcalf, they got Locked, they got Jackson Smith
Speaker 1: and and Jake, but they got Jake Bobo, that kid
Speaker 1: from me.
Speaker 3: I like him. He's tow like coming out of college.
Speaker 3: So ran a terrible for that though.
Speaker 2: On paper we look explosive, we look dynamic coming into
Speaker 2: this season with what we have. But I will be
Speaker 2: on the record to say that those guys can Seattle
Speaker 2: a little better than us. I think because of I
Speaker 2: think it's not because of just ability, it's just.
Speaker 1: Just they just feel more dynamic.
Speaker 2: No, it's not even the size, and it's just they've
Speaker 2: been here. They've been they've been here long enough, they've
Speaker 2: done it long enough. You know, a locket, the guy
Speaker 2: who you don't even give them enough credit to. He's
Speaker 2: out there killing your best. He'll kill you in week out.
Speaker 2: You got a metcalf who man like you just give
Speaker 2: him the worst ball you can, just throw it up
Speaker 2: to him. He's gonna go across the mill. He's gonna
Speaker 2: hurt your safety trying to hear him. He's gonna make
Speaker 2: the play, you know what I mean, Brother, you have
Speaker 2: to catch or not. He's gonna make a play. And
Speaker 2: then you have this kid now that just Jackson Smith
Speaker 2: and he's been phenomenal. So that's the thing that's scary
Speaker 2: about them. And that's something that I was like, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna talk about later when I talk about these
Speaker 2: you know their matchup against our defensive backs, because you
Speaker 2: talked about that. You know that that's one of your matchups,
Speaker 2: that's one of your that's one of your favorites, going
Speaker 2: up against our dbs against their their wide receiver. I'm
Speaker 2: scared of that, bro, I'm gonna be real with you
Speaker 2: because I know we are prone to give giving up
Speaker 2: with the big play explosives. And I don't want this
Speaker 2: to be the team that say we're gonna make them
Speaker 2: look think that.
Speaker 3: We even all over say that's how they play the makeup.
Speaker 2: They might be a little bit. They might have one
Speaker 2: or two more guys than the Eagles have in their cores,
Speaker 2: and they can easily be that same kind of.
Speaker 3: Funny because when I look at these wide receiving cords,
Speaker 3: I try to just go slot slot slot. I. Number one, Terry.
Speaker 3: Who would you really have? Terry or DK?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough.
Speaker 2: I think I think Locke's more than number one than DK.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I'm gonna get to him. But but
Speaker 3: I would say DK is probably you know that they
Speaker 3: want to hate right now? So who would you rather have?
Speaker 2: Terry a DK?
Speaker 1: Mixing?
Speaker 2: For what we do, it's easy to say Terry, But
Speaker 2: for what the league will look at, they would pick
Speaker 2: DK all right off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, number two, the number two receivers, Johann a Locket.
Speaker 2: Who'd you ready? R Han is great? You know we
Speaker 2: like his potential.
Speaker 3: Three wide receivers, all right, would you ready to have
Speaker 3: Curtis Samuel's Jackson Smith and didn't I ready have Curtis Samuel.
Speaker 2: I say, Curtis might have a little more season than
Speaker 2: that kid, and Curtis a little faster than them.
Speaker 3: And I could use Curtis.
Speaker 2: So so it's kind of like it. But what I'm
Speaker 2: saying is so if you look at it like that,
Speaker 2: then it's a toss up. But from just the play,
Speaker 2: I know, I say what you say because I feel
Speaker 2: like you can understand. You got to put into all
Speaker 2: contexts that we're learning a new offense. Yeah, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, We're not. We're still gathering the information
Speaker 2: and trying to you know, play on the same page,
Speaker 2: which I've seen a lot of progress. These guys they
Speaker 2: out there running, they're gone, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: They love young guy. We was waiting for him to
Speaker 2: get going, and he's been he's didn't make a hell
Speaker 2: of a play. So if we can put the pressure
Speaker 2: and put you know, Gino into one of those panic moments,
Speaker 2: then now they play into our hands. But we let
Speaker 2: him have his time, it could be scary out there
Speaker 2: for our defensive backs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's the thing, is like, because we
Speaker 1: do you know, we do a lot of we give
Speaker 1: up a lot of big explosive plays. This is a
Speaker 1: big exposive play offense. Like, can we manage some of that?
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a big deal.
Speaker 2: Let's talk.
Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about the defense real quick.
Speaker 1: So their their defense. I think their defense is interesting, right,
Speaker 1: because it's it's not overly complicated, right.
Speaker 3: I think it's pretty They play simple and fast.
Speaker 1: Pretty straightforward. They do big pressures, and they're good at
Speaker 1: the pressures they bring. They bring them in good moments,
Speaker 1: critical moments, and they're fast with them. But they're not complicated.
Speaker 1: And like you mentioned, it's cover two, it's Cover three,
Speaker 1: it's man, it's nothing crazy. How do you think Sam
Speaker 1: matches up against this group? He seems to play well
Speaker 1: against defenses to play straightforward, but I will say this
Speaker 1: coverage group in the back end place fast.
Speaker 3: He gonna think about it. He has to find thirty three.
Speaker 3: He has to find Jamal Adams. He's the cop that
Speaker 3: makes this defense goal because as good as he is
Speaker 3: at the safety, he's better closer to the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 3: That's where he makes his plays. He's a sacker. He's
Speaker 3: a guy that makes them play faster than they are.
Speaker 3: So my thing is how fast can Sam fined? Thirty three? Yeah,
Speaker 3: five thirty three. They're gonna they're gonna.
Speaker 1: Help you play.
Speaker 3: You got Witherspoon that's in the nickel and he's excelling
Speaker 3: at the nickel. Tariak Woodland do I receive? I mean
Speaker 3: the cornerback he's having a dial year, but he has
Speaker 3: the ability to make any plays at any time physically
Speaker 3: is can you make these linebackers make plays in space?
Speaker 2: So look watch the game Trey willand jump off the
Speaker 2: page with Aspoon and that Trey Brown, Wooling and Witherspoon.
Speaker 2: Those DB's the first press. Those are three DB's that
Speaker 2: I see. I said, who it's gonna be interesting and
Speaker 2: we protect for Sam. Now we get to see our
Speaker 2: receivers go up against I believe top tier cornerback play.
Speaker 2: Then you're gonna thought about it. You got thirty three
Speaker 2: and back there so they whole second there. Yeah, got names,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, if you want just talk
Speaker 2: about names, they got the name. Can we go up
Speaker 2: against them? But the one thing that I saw that
Speaker 2: to me that made me say, I like this matchup
Speaker 2: because when you talk about the blisters. And you talk
Speaker 2: about thirty three playing up close to the line of
Speaker 2: scrimmage every time. They brought five or six men last
Speaker 2: week for some odd reason to tight end Mark Andrews
Speaker 2: is wid by open by himself. So Logan Thomas, if
Speaker 2: you not chopping at the bitch right now and saying,
Speaker 2: give me, show me one of these looks, Just give
Speaker 2: me one of these looks. And I'm hoping that Sam's
Speaker 2: seeing it too, and wish they are because they watching
Speaker 2: film just like us. I was sitting there sitting myself.
Speaker 2: Hold on, let me wind us again. Let me see
Speaker 2: if there was how many men came, so I can
Speaker 2: just make sure that I'm not you know, because I
Speaker 2: try to critique the things how I see it and
Speaker 2: speak on how I see it. And I saw it
Speaker 2: too many times like the first half. I believe Mark
Speaker 2: Andrews had six catches going to halftime, like critical key
Speaker 2: key clutch catches, you know what I mean, because they
Speaker 2: was leaving them open at times and they wasn't blissing
Speaker 2: a lot. And so one of the one of the
Speaker 2: things that stood out to me just saying that, Okay,
Speaker 2: the secondary is up there. They name for name, they
Speaker 2: can go out there and play against anybody. But the
Speaker 2: one thing they haven't been good at is stopping the
Speaker 2: run and really putting that much pressure. So the one
Speaker 2: guy to who put a little pressure or got his name,
Speaker 2: boy my fac fifty three number fifty three. There you see,
Speaker 2: you said, fast off their edge, Lennold got to come
Speaker 2: with it. You gotta have your hard hat, your you know,
Speaker 2: all that stuff. You know, Timbling's all that bring it
Speaker 2: because he's gonna come off there. You understand, we play
Speaker 2: this game and they know what we're susceptible to, like, Hey,
Speaker 2: these teams and this team can't stop this, we're gonna
Speaker 2: do it. And that's how you have to think going
Speaker 2: into every game. But I'm just hoping that we can
Speaker 2: have that same energy that we had the last two weeks,
Speaker 2: because if we can come with that kind of game
Speaker 2: plan to say, let's let's kind of get the run
Speaker 2: game going, let's moved his ball, move the pocket and
Speaker 2: get that twelve men out of it early, we have
Speaker 2: a great fighting chance offensively.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, And I think the other thing about
Speaker 1: this defense that's interesting is they do they are like
Speaker 1: ninth in the league and takeaways. So the interceptions, fumble,
Speaker 1: get after the football, gotta protect the football, and uh,
Speaker 1: like you said, for their very confident group fast, they
Speaker 1: know what they're they know what they're doing right, and
Speaker 1: they're really dialed in. And I think it'll it'll be
Speaker 1: a very interesting challenge and they've been very productive over
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 3: Who has the I don't even know if you who
Speaker 3: has the luxury of drafting the top five corner and
Speaker 3: let him play Nickel.
Speaker 1: He's been great. Though.
Speaker 3: What I'm just saying, you know, how many times do
Speaker 3: you see this?
Speaker 1: To me that strikes me as a thing where it's like,
Speaker 1: this is the best player on our board, Like we're
Speaker 1: taking them and we're going to find a spot.
Speaker 2: For most definitely, But I'm just saying, very seldom see
Speaker 2: a corner just go get shut in the inside and hem.
Speaker 1: In the top six guy tox six, top top six
Speaker 1: pick in the NFL. Yeah, And again, like so, even
Speaker 1: though they're simple because they get a lot of turnovers,
Speaker 1: they've held really good offenses to sub like sub point totals.
Speaker 1: I think they held they.
Speaker 2: Share of wins and losses against teams that they shouldn't
Speaker 2: have or shouldn't shouldn't have lost. You shouldn't have lost
Speaker 2: to the team, and they shouldn't have been the team.
Speaker 2: So that's how look at their whole schedule or or
Speaker 2: record right now, Like, damn they beat that team that.
Speaker 3: The Raids took him down through there with some physicality.
Speaker 3: So if some coach every be enemy, I'm thinking about
Speaker 3: running his barrow.
Speaker 2: And they backup running back. Was the one that was
Speaker 2: his first three carries and gashed him.
Speaker 1: He's a Mitchell Mitchell. He's a guy though, he's like
Speaker 1: a four to three guy, kind of.
Speaker 2: Small and you know, compact. Yeah, ran the ball well.
Speaker 2: I mean the other guy too, got in there every
Speaker 2: time he touched the balls. That's that's what That's what
Speaker 2: stood out to me, is just seeing that it was.
Speaker 2: To me, it was a balance attack that kind of
Speaker 2: got them, you know what I mean, you know where
Speaker 2: they was at. I think they ran the ball exceptionally well.
Speaker 2: And then with the threat of having Lamar. That's kind
Speaker 2: of always hard for sure to kind of account for
Speaker 2: a quarterback that can do it, because I saw a
Speaker 2: lot of times he made plays that where it should
Speaker 2: have just been stopped and he kept the ball. And
Speaker 2: then and even in the passing game, they blitched them
Speaker 2: fifty three came off the and he ran on him
Speaker 2: and he got twenty three yards, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So you can't make up for that. That's just that's
Speaker 2: just playing in the backyard. And that's the plays that
Speaker 2: you can't draw on the paper and say we're gonna
Speaker 2: get this.
Speaker 3: It will make him so unique.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think I think that game is kind
Speaker 1: of an outlier for the defense. I think they've been
Speaker 1: much more consistent. So like when you're looking at him,
Speaker 1: think about how they played against Cleveland. It was a
Speaker 1: backup quarterback, played well against Arizona, played well against Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: And Cleveland had a good defense. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So and the thing again that it's been hurting
Speaker 1: this defense quite a bit, hurt them a lot in
Speaker 1: the Baltimore game is the offense turns the ball over
Speaker 1: a lot. Gino Smith fumbles, interceptions, saving.
Speaker 2: A rough I believe eight turnovers in the leastest games.
Speaker 1: Yes, which is which is crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: All right, So let's get to our last sevement, which
Speaker 1: I'm excited for. All right, So where are the Commander's advantages?
Speaker 1: And we're gonna do a segment with Tanna where it's
Speaker 1: don't quote me, but quote me with our very own
Speaker 1: Santana Moss. And this is the first time we've done
Speaker 1: this segment, but we're gonna kind of let Tanner run
Speaker 1: this show. And I can't wait to see what our
Speaker 1: guys got.
Speaker 2: Call it a little bit.
Speaker 1: I ain't got one to do hoppyhood hop hoodie. Right, yeah,
Speaker 1: so what's the first what we got to tell you?
Speaker 1: What's the first one? Here?
Speaker 2: Don't quote me, but quote me? All right, don't quote me,
Speaker 2: but quote me. And I kind of alluded to this
Speaker 2: a little earlier. Man, sh del rio, please give our
Speaker 2: guys some helping that back in because I'm scared of
Speaker 2: these receipts. Now we can sit here and talk about today.
Speaker 2: But man, trust me, if we if we allow, because
Speaker 2: one of the things people fail to realize, and I
Speaker 2: want to I want to talk about it. We talked
Speaker 2: about this all year long, and we wonder why you
Speaker 2: wondering why we haven't seen so much, you know, or
Speaker 2: we haven't seen enough pressure from our guys up front,
Speaker 2: because half of the time it's the guys in the
Speaker 2: back end. You got a guy here, they're free and
Speaker 2: you're not communicating well enough, and you got those guys
Speaker 2: sitting back there and you're waiting time out, you know
Speaker 2: when they gonna get there. No, the rush is to me,
Speaker 2: the rush doesn't start up front. It starts with the
Speaker 2: guys in the back end. Because if the court back
Speaker 2: had to hold the ball a little longer, that allows
Speaker 2: your guys to get to them. So if we want
Speaker 2: to see our guys up front, and I know, chasing
Speaker 2: those boys are gone. But I don't feel like we
Speaker 2: have to rely on those guys to go out then
Speaker 2: be dominant up front. We have we have enough guys
Speaker 2: and I believe in two hill and we just call
Speaker 2: them James Hyphens and the two young guys and I'm
Speaker 2: two studs in the middle. You know that their offensive
Speaker 2: line pff grade all under fifty. They moved. They got
Speaker 2: musical chairs too, by the offensive line, like the Giants
Speaker 2: have a couple of weeks ago. So we have to
Speaker 2: take advantage of that. But the way you take advantage
Speaker 2: of that is in the back end and being secure.
Speaker 2: So I'm hoping that we have a coverage on there
Speaker 2: where there's two under where there's four, whether there's something
Speaker 2: that's going to have us play with our eyes on
Speaker 2: the quarterback to not let these guys be with their
Speaker 2: backs turned so we can have a chance at the
Speaker 2: ball or have a chance to see when he's throwing
Speaker 2: it so we won't get burned. Because I believe this
Speaker 2: receiver corps can be lethal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree with that. I think they're all explosive.
Speaker 1: Even the running backs are explosive. Tight ends are explosive.
Speaker 1: Like Noah Fan. We didn't mention him in the top
Speaker 1: of the show. He's an explosive kind of four to
Speaker 1: four guy. Big dude can make a lot of plays.
Speaker 1: Like their fourth receiver is extremely explosive. So a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff to be worried about here. And I think
Speaker 1: to your point ten, it's like, can Jack find a
Speaker 1: way to create a conservative coverage structure right that keeps
Speaker 1: everything in front of you? But also can he be
Speaker 1: varied enough and mix it up so that Gino can't
Speaker 1: get a beat on you?
Speaker 2: And not even that. Let's let's see a little bit
Speaker 2: what we saw last week. Give these guys face, put
Speaker 2: hands on guys, pram. You don't get me wrong, Like
Speaker 2: I remember, we had this little discussion, you know, right
Speaker 2: before we started to show yesterday and I was asking you,
Speaker 2: why is it that sometimes we don't put hands on guys?
Speaker 2: And then we saw Forbes go out there and he
Speaker 2: put hands on everybody lined up in front of him.
Speaker 2: To me, as a playmaker, rather, I'm a receiver, tight end,
Speaker 2: defensive back. I have to do and I have to
Speaker 2: do what's going to be best for me individually. So
Speaker 2: if a coach can tell me ten, I need your
Speaker 2: hands up when you're in your stands, and I want
Speaker 2: your hands on your knees. You know, coaches coach you
Speaker 2: up to tell you what they want to see from you,
Speaker 2: but after that, not gonna make a play sure, And
Speaker 2: that's overcoming coaching. So if a coach told me I
Speaker 2: want you to play a scheme a certain way, it
Speaker 2: is I'm gonna play this scheme, but now I have
Speaker 2: to play it to the ability. I have to now
Speaker 2: show that player that scheme how I fit in this scheme.
Speaker 2: Same way I told you guys when I was in
Speaker 2: New York. You know, Paul Hackett told me I don't
Speaker 2: want to see you running route like that. You ran
Speaker 2: that dig rock that is that you can't run it
Speaker 2: like that? Like I just beat the hell out of
Speaker 2: this guy. And he didn't want to see it again.
Speaker 2: And guess what I got in the game and run
Speaker 2: it again, went for eighty and he threw his clipboard
Speaker 2: at me. It was like, I can't coach this guy
Speaker 2: how because you have to understand. You can coach me,
Speaker 2: but so far. Now when I'm on the feel, it's
Speaker 2: time for me to click in as that player, as
Speaker 2: that playmakers, that different maker, and go out there and
Speaker 2: make a play. When I make a play, all that
Speaker 2: coaching go out the door. You can't tell me how
Speaker 2: to do it. All you can do is get me right,
Speaker 2: line up and know what I got to do. From there,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take it from there.
Speaker 1: No, I think that's it. And then you know, there's
Speaker 1: a lot more to talk about in this game. But
Speaker 1: I think the main thing that came out of that conversation,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, is the most important part here in
Speaker 1: this game. The deciding factor is can you limit the
Speaker 1: big plays for Seattle? Can we And if you can
Speaker 1: do that.
Speaker 3: I think on both sides, you got to limit the
Speaker 3: big plays they make on defense and limit it.
Speaker 1: On limited turnoff is really I think I think comes
Speaker 1: down to. So let's let's get into game predictions. Smoot,
Speaker 1: what do you got?
Speaker 3: Twenty one twenty?
Speaker 1: That's how tight it's gonna be. Do you think.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's gonna be a block extra point.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's just two field goals and
Speaker 3: not a touchdown to get that twenty. But I'm going
Speaker 3: twenty one Washington twenty. So we're getting out of hair.
Speaker 3: We're getting out of there by the hairs on our
Speaker 3: chin and chin chins.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's a win?
Speaker 2: I think it's a win.
Speaker 1: Wow, what do you think?
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be an m m a battle.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be hard fort twelve. Man' gonna try to
Speaker 2: get in it. We're gonna make a player two here
Speaker 2: and there to quiet them. It's gonna be one of
Speaker 2: them kind of games. They gonna be like, damn, we
Speaker 2: thought we we thought we had a little back, but
Speaker 2: these guys are really playing, and I think it's gonna
Speaker 2: be a play made on the other side, you know,
Speaker 2: either side offensive defense. Is that gonna decide the game
Speaker 2: for us? I can't tell you who's gonna win it.
Speaker 2: I really, I really believe it's gonna be one of
Speaker 2: them hard four games. This might be our toughest opponent,
Speaker 2: especially just because of what their their home stadium does
Speaker 2: for everybody, and everybody got to be down in I'm
Speaker 2: pretty sure right now, I'm surprised I ain't been hearing
Speaker 2: no music. But the day is the first day, so
Speaker 2: we are. But man on the field, they need to
Speaker 2: have loud noise going. We need to be able to
Speaker 2: have silent cadence, all that stuff defensively, how you check
Speaker 2: your hands, seeknings, do all that because it gets so
Speaker 2: loud in there. Oh man, I at one time I
Speaker 2: would just like scrap that I'm gonna run. I was
Speaker 2: just telling the telling the quarterback. I'm running, curl, I'm
Speaker 2: running come back. Like you gotta be able to just
Speaker 2: know what's going on, because that's what a man can
Speaker 2: play a huge role.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree with that, and I think it
Speaker 1: will be close. And the thing to me I keep
Speaker 1: going back to is like, can our defense limit explosive
Speaker 1: plays because like unlike last week where Mac Jones wasn't
Speaker 1: able to connect on some of those note caepers, Gino's
Speaker 1: got an ability to do that. Obviously, the defensive line
Speaker 1: can communicate some of that. They've given a lot of sacks.
Speaker 1: But I just look at it and I say to myself, man,
Speaker 1: like this is the defense needs to come come with it.
Speaker 1: I think offensively will be okay as long as you
Speaker 1: don't turn the football over, you know, more than twice,
Speaker 1: I think will be okay. But defense has come with it.
Speaker 1: Part of me thinks Seattle's gonna win this game just
Speaker 1: because it's a tough trip. What's your point total, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say. I want to say it's gonna be like
Speaker 1: twenty four to twenty something like that. So you with me,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a close game. I think these teams
Speaker 1: are more evenly matched than people maybe nationally think, because
Speaker 1: I think there are some souls offensively with the Seattle
Speaker 1: offensive line, for example, that are really mitigating like the
Speaker 1: effectiveness of that group. And I think Gino's turning the
Speaker 1: football over too much to be like a top tier group.
Speaker 1: But again, they've got some talented pieces on the offensive
Speaker 1: side of the football. That means they're they've got like
Speaker 1: a puncher's chats, right the Deontay Wilder.
Speaker 3: They live to got a chance, And my MVP of
Speaker 3: the game is one to run pain. Yeah, because you're
Speaker 3: waiting for that game from him or even John Allen?
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, is it right?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 2: The interior guys, are you know one of them?
Speaker 1: You don't have a chance. This is the game right here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I think that's what we're looking for. Really excited
Speaker 1: for this game, really exciting because it feels like could
Speaker 1: be a statement measuring stea Yeah, really good measuring sith this.
Speaker 1: This is a competitive team, winnable football coached well coach.
Speaker 1: Really looking forward to watching this and hopefully the commander
Speaker 1: is crazy.
Speaker 2: To I I'm meant to say this, the decoordinator and
Speaker 2: the defensive line coaches both was on my cottage team
Speaker 2: and really yeah, so so the defense defensive coordinator is
Speaker 2: Clinton Hurt and Damian Lewis d Luis did he lose?
Speaker 2: He's the defensive line coach. So it'd be great. Yeah, definitely, definitely,
Speaker 2: it'd be great just to see those guys doing what
Speaker 2: they're doing. Man, it's just crazy, just know that.
Speaker 3: Damn that old Yeah Antonio Pierce head coach. I mean
Speaker 3: for the love Vegas regulars, we.
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