1 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: I'm Katie Curry and I'm Brian Cranston. And this is 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: next question. I think I have a future. Yeah, let's 3 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: try it again, um, this time a little per year. 4 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: That's right. My guest today is Brian Cranston. Those of 5 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: you who haven't been living under a rock, note that 6 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: Brian is a force, a performer, is comfortable on screens 7 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: large and small, as he is on a Broadway stage. 8 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: But more than anything, honestly, he's just an all around 9 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: good human being, and as I found out during our conversation, 10 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: also an avid reader of Wake Up Call. 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By the way, 26 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: I loved Your Honor, but I read recently it was 27 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: like one of the biggest shows on Showtime in a 28 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: long time. Yeah, they tell us it was the highest 29 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: rated UM series they ever had, so that's pretty good. 30 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: And so they wanted to do another one, and and 31 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: I said, I'd like to do another season, but only 32 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: if we follow in an honest, authentic way where that 33 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: character would go. Because it seems to me, with all 34 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 1: due respect Mr Cranston, that this series did not exactly 35 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: lend itself to a second series. I mean, things tied 36 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: up pretty neatly, very traumatically. I might add I don't 37 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 1: want any spoilers here, but I had a hard time 38 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: when I heard there was going to be a second season. 39 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: I thought, how are you going to do that? I 40 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: thought the same thing because it ended tragically, which is 41 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: not which is a not a the wrong way to 42 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: end that first season. Um, And then I thought, well, 43 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: if the first season was about a man losing his 44 00:02:54,639 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: sense of principles and dignity and integrity, can the second 45 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: season be about redemption? Is? And I think our society 46 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: is yearning for that to actually stand. Where does forgiveness 47 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: exist in our in our society now? It seems so coarse, 48 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: it seems so vitriolic. You know that that, you know, 49 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: we we've had people who have been leading this country 50 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: who believe that forgiveness and and apology are signs of 51 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: weaknesses in the human character. And I don't believe that. 52 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: I believe it's actually a strength. And in fact, you've 53 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: been pretty vocal if I recall about sort of cancel culture, 54 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: haven't you? Well? I did you? Did you get a 55 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: little hot water that baron? Well, you know what happened. 56 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: I was doing I was doing a play in London 57 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: and I had a film coming out. So the BBC 58 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: wanted to do an interview with me, and I said okay, 59 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: And they said they're gonna want you to talk about uh, 60 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: President Trump, And I said okay, And they're gonna want 61 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: to talk about the Me Too movement. I said, okay, Um, 62 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: all of which you know, it's it's a wake up 63 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: call in many regards for both of those issues. The 64 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,799 Speaker 1: question came to me, do you think that M. Kevin 65 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: Spacey can resurrect his career? And I was taken aback 66 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: a little bit about that, about that directness, and then 67 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 1: I realized the association the BBC is asking that because 68 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: Kevin Spacey was the artistic director of the old VIC Theater, 69 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: right And uh, I said, I don't think so. But 70 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: if he does a lot of personal work on himself, 71 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: if he really goes into therapy and really gets to 72 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: the root of what was causing this behavior of his 73 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: and not in a two month dude ranch kind of 74 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: thing in Colorado, but a real earnest attempt to figure 75 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: things out, and if he if he showed genuine contrition, 76 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: maybe in five to ten years, UM, society would accept 77 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: him back if he did all that work that did 78 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: I did. Um. We were in a redlining situation at 79 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: the time where they thought I was trying to defend him, 80 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: but really I was trying to look at a bigger 81 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: picture of our society. Where does it all fit? And 82 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: so when this idea to possibly do a second season 83 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: of Your Honor came along. I thought, I think this 84 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: might help people people who live in despair and in pain. Um, 85 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: how do they cope? How can they find a pathway 86 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: to the rest of their lives? And I think it's 87 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: a service. You personally went through it yourself. You had 88 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: to figure out a path to get through so that 89 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: you can be strong again. And I'm I'm marvel at 90 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: your ability to be able to do that. You mean, 91 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: from from the death of my husband. Yeah, you know. 92 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: I think also this sort of public shaming, which I 93 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: didn't experience, but but certainly many high profile figures have. Uh. 94 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's definitely warranted. But I think you're right at 95 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: what point is can there be or should there be redemption? 96 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: And I don't know the answer to that, but I 97 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: think that's such a a topic that's so right for 98 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: exploration and and getting back to Your Honor can for 99 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: people who haven't seen the first series, and I urged 100 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: them to do so so they can see the second 101 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: series when it comes out. Can you just basically give 102 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: us the nutshell of this character because I found him 103 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: so fascinating. Michael days Otto is a Superior Court judge 104 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: in New Orleans, Louisiana. He has a seventeen year old son, 105 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: and his wife was a photojournalist who was murdered a 106 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: year earlier. Through a course of of the remembrance of 107 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: the day that she passed, my son, who was distraught 108 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: and it is an asthmatic, gets into a a car 109 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: accident and he hits a young boy on a motorcycle. 110 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: He panics and leaves the scene of the accident almost immediately, 111 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: feeling guilty and realizing he's made a mistake, and he 112 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: confesses to me, his father, what happened. And after receiving 113 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: that devastating news and dealing with that by itself, I 114 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: convey to him that we need to do the right thing. 115 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: We need to turn you in and be responsible, because 116 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: if you don't do that now, you will forever be 117 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: damaged by that decision. So I go to turn him 118 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: into the police um and I'm going to hire a 119 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: lawyer for him and and see how things end up. 120 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: And what happens is that at the police station, I 121 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: noticed the parents of the boy who died in that 122 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: car accident, and they are part of the most violent 123 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: and dangerous UH mob in all of Louisiana, and I know, 124 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: or at least I feel I know that that man, 125 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: if he found out my son killed his son, he 126 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: would go and kill my son within the structure of 127 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: the um of course system. So I make an immediate 128 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: decision not to turn my son in. From that point on, 129 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: everything unraveled deeper and deeper. It's not the crime, it's 130 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: the cover up. And I found the character so fascinating 131 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: because of all these sort of ethical lapses and how 132 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: one leads to another, to another to another. And I 133 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: don't know, I'm obsessed with characters who are guilt ridden. 134 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember that movie Bob Roberts. 135 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: I think it was called and it was with was 136 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: that Tim Robbins, And I think he commits a crime. 137 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: And the idea of doing something and being like having 138 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: to hide that and feel this overwhelming, overflowing guilt. I 139 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 1: have nightmares about that. I don't know why those characters. 140 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: I think that's my biggest fear, like not doing something 141 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: wrong but having to hide it because you feel like 142 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: you'll be exposed. Yes, of course, but but when you 143 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: think about it, that's one of the wonderful things about 144 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: human beings is that we do carry guilt and we 145 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: we do have that because we are we are an 146 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: made to that, we're social animals. We want to strive 147 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: to do what is best. I really believe that. And um, 148 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: when when we explore in this season of Your Honor, 149 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 1: the idea that my character is is going through despair 150 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: and grief, Um, I think it's a valuable thing to 151 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: it and the movement that he makes. I had to 152 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: really convince the people at show time. It's like, trust me, 153 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 1: I think this will work. But you wanted to do it. Yeah, 154 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: you wanted to do it. Well, I wanted to do 155 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: that if if they weren't saying to you, this show 156 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: did so well, we need a second season. They did, 157 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 1: And I said, I will do a second season if 158 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: I can do this with that character. Got it, But 159 00:10:49,880 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: otherwise I don't have to do another one. Now. How 160 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: is Michael different from Walter White? And are their similarities 161 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: in their characters because they are they are sort of 162 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: at their core good people who because of circumstances, become 163 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: bad people. Yeah. Well, I think I think what what 164 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: Walter White taught me is that nothing is black and 165 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: white in the pun But um, there's a lot of 166 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: gray area. I don't think human beings are just one 167 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: thing we have. We have good qualities and we have 168 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: bad qualities. We have things about us that we're proud 169 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: of and things that were I need to improve in 170 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: this area. Hopefully they're not criminal. But but that's human beings. Um. 171 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: The difference, and well, the common denominator is that Michael 172 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: Desiatto and Walter White were played by the same person, 173 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: So there's always going to be a through line of that, 174 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: does Michael we're tidy Whitey's he does not. He does 175 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: not he's a boxer. Yeah. Um. But the difference is 176 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: is that the attempts. We we want to see characters 177 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: attempting to do the right thing at the best of 178 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: their ability. But if they're damaged and troubled people men 179 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: in this case, uh, then they may not be capable 180 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: of doing the right thing at the right time. Always, 181 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: and it's always about sort of how one bad decision 182 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: can change everything in an instant. You've said you're attracted 183 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: to damage characters who still have some manner of humanity 184 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: and decency within them despite their flaws and shortcomings. So 185 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: I guess that does describe Michael and Walter I think 186 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: that's the and those are the kinds of characters I 187 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 1: get offered is to play really damnage, you're such a 188 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: nice guy. How is that? Well? I can I can relate. 189 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm here are such why you are human? 190 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: But I mean I don't know you that well, but 191 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: I would say you're incredibly decent and um and and 192 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: morally upstanding individual. You know, I feel like you have 193 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: certain values that you adhere to and you know you've 194 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 1: got I don't know, and you've here before have played 195 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: pretty wholesome characters prior to breaking bad. So you know, 196 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: how how come we're just now seeing this the darker 197 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: side of Brian Cranston. Well, when you when you think 198 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: of it from a standpoint of dramatic narrative, the most 199 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: interesting things to play are damaged people. We don't want 200 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: to see in our dramas. We don't want to see 201 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: people do all the right things all the time. They 202 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: would never make it into a show or a movie, 203 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: right because it's not interesting. So there's going to be 204 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: a turn. There's going to be uh problems in that 205 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 1: person's life that they are either capable or incapable of overcoming. 206 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: And that's that's what makes drama so fascinating. You're the 207 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: happy beneficiary of this national obsession I think with crime 208 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: and sort of thrillers and who done it? And I'm 209 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: curious what you think about that whole trend, because everything 210 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: seems to either be based on true crime or a 211 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: fiction fictionalized version of some kind of terrible event. Well, 212 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: I know, I am more interested in the human element 213 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: of it and whether that takes me in the genre 214 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: of crime or a medical or whatever the main areas 215 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: of interest are. I'm always interested in the story. Does 216 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: the story where he resonate with me and and so 217 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: you look at you look at Breaking Bad. And Breaking 218 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: Bad was a story of a man's plight and struggle 219 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: through this horrific prognosis of of a limited life, and 220 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: he wanted to set his family up for after he's gone, 221 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: and and so he elicited a lot of sympathies of that. Yeah, 222 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: it's just his decision making UM and and also an 223 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: indictment of the health system that a fully employed teacher 224 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: needs to have a second job in order to pay 225 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: for the special needs son and his care. UM. So 226 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: and then you have UM your Honor, which had the 227 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: concept of what would you do to save the life 228 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: of your child? And if you ask any parent, it's like, 229 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: I would do anything to save the life of my child. 230 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: I would do anything. And I asked people, would you 231 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: become would you willingly become a criminal if you knew 232 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: that by doing so you would save the life of 233 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: your child? Yes? I would. Okay, then we take it 234 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: a step further. Would you allow an innocent person to 235 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: be hurt or killed in the line of saving yours? 236 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: You know? And then all of a sudden, oh, you 237 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: can't go back. My character can't retrace his steps and 238 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: clean it up and make good on something. His spiral 239 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: already started and he is in this mess. And that's 240 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: what to to echo your point is that we have 241 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: to try to make the best decisions at that time 242 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: that you can. My character didn't have the luxury of thinking, 243 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: what are the repercussions of this initial decision. I remember 244 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: that scene where he's watching the family. I think he 245 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: was in the parking lot. Uh, Michael was, and he 246 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: thought he made that split second decision. Nope, this isn't 247 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: going to happen. We're not going to do the right thing. 248 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: And the rest of the series obviously unfolds, and he 249 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: gets deeper and deeper and deeper, and to you know, 250 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: lie begets lie begets lie. Um. I love the series, 251 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: and I think it was critically acclaimed. I think it 252 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: got a lot of nice reviews. But you don't read 253 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 1: reviews ever, ever, ever, ever. I did, um up until 254 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: about seven eight years ago, when I read a couple 255 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: reviews about a movie that I did that I thought was, Oh, well, 256 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: that doesn't that's not helpful to me. Um, what movie 257 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: was it? Well, I don't want to I don't want 258 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 1: to throw this reviewer under the bus. Oh, go ahead, 259 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: we like to do that here on next question. We 260 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 1: like to throw people under the bus. Come on, Brian. Especially, 261 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 1: it sounds like this person me deserve it. Yeah, because 262 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: this person was lazy and claimed certain things that an 263 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 1: easy little research into it and this person would have found, 264 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: oh I'm wrong about that and about this. And so 265 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: I found the laziness of that to be irritating. And 266 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: I also realized and and so I said, I don't 267 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: think reading reviews helps me at all, And so I don't. 268 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: I don't read reviews on when I do a Broadway 269 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: show or when I do a movie because it it's 270 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: not going to change anything. Um and I actually most 271 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: people are saying, you could have nine great reviews and 272 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: one bad one, and the one you're going to think 273 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: about is the bad one. Isn't a true No matter 274 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: how many things you've done and how many times you've 275 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 1: been reviewed or critiqued, it still hurts. I think when 276 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,719 Speaker 1: people say mean things about you. You know, are you 277 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: on Twitter? By the way, Well, are you leaving Twitter? 278 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not active. You're not active? But you 279 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: would you do you want to stay on it? I 280 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: haven't really given it much thought. I certainly my whole 281 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: point I I long for the chance once again to 282 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: have a respectful, logical disagreement with someone who has who's 283 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: more conservative than I am. I'm more liberal, but I 284 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: and I want to have that debate again and not 285 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: lose respect for each other, knowing that we're both trying 286 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: to get to an accomplishment that benefits the country. That's 287 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: that's the goal. Uh, we've kind of lost that. I 288 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: think we've been conditioned not to want it, given the 289 00:19:55,920 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: kind of discourse or lack thereof that is everywhere. It's 290 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: almost assigned. Well, just as compromise on Capitol Hill is 291 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: a sign of weakness. Compromise or even uh, calm discussion 292 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 1: seems to be a sign of weakness, openness, kind of 293 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: willingness to listen. It has all been kind of I think, 294 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,239 Speaker 1: I don't know, people just don't want to do it. 295 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: I agree with you, And I think what I was 296 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 1: saying earlier, same thing, um, asking forgiveness, apologizing signs of weakness. 297 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: I think that goes along with that that our country 298 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: has been a come courser and and harder. And I 299 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: think if if we can contribute anything to this is 300 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: to be able to try to break down that kind 301 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: of calloused attitude and dogma and be able to step 302 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: back in and saying let's have a respectful debate on 303 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: what is best for our society, our country, our state, 304 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 1: at our city, or whatever the case. I want to 305 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: see if I can help bring the country together with 306 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: less divisiveness and more spirit of unity, that would be great. Um. 307 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: When when I see people who have integrity and I 308 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: want to meet them, I want to talk to them. 309 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what side of the aisle they happen 310 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: to be on. I know you don't read reviews, Brian, 311 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 1: but I did want to read this letter from Anthony 312 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: Hopkins because it was so lovely and I just made 313 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: me like Anthony Hopkins even more than I already do. 314 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: He wrote that your performance as Walter his performance. I 315 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: guess this was to you, right. Your performance as Walter 316 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: White was the best acting I have seen ever. I 317 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: have never watched anything like it. Brilliant. I know there's 318 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: so much smoke blowing and sickening bullshit in this business, 319 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: and I've sort of lost belief in anything, really, but 320 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: this work of yours spectacular, absolutely stunning. From what started 321 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 1: as a black comedy descended into a labyrinth of blood 322 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: destruction and hell, it was like a great Jacobean, Shakespearean 323 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,360 Speaker 1: or Greek tragedy. When you've read that, you I mean, 324 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 1: obviously you read that he wrote, he delivered it, or 325 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: he had it sent to your house. Yeah, it was 326 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: it was dull. I was actually um in Boston at 327 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 1: the time doing the out of town version of All 328 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: the Way and the play you did about LBJ, right, 329 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 1: and we had just closed that show there and I 330 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: got this letter that was forwarded from We have the 331 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: same agent, and so it was forwarded from the agents, 332 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: and I read it and oh my god. But I 333 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: I am not the one to want to make these 334 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 1: things public, and I didn't intend to make this public. 335 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: But he gave praise to not just me, but the 336 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: whole cast, and I felt I wanted to share that 337 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: with the cast, and I should have said, please, don't 338 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: put this out on social media. I did not think 339 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 1: in those terms, and I sent it to my cast 340 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: and say, I think you all should read this, isn't 341 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: it lovely? Lovely and mind blowing? And then someone within 342 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: our cast put it out on social media and it 343 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 1: went everywhere, and that wasn't the intention. I actually cringe 344 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: a little bit because I would have rather have been 345 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: just a private, private moment. Well, having said that, what 346 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: a nice gesture and what beautiful words, and coming from 347 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: one of the best actors to ever live. And is 348 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: there so much smoke blowing and sickening bullshit in your business? 349 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: Please that you're saying that rhetorically? Yeah, how do you? 350 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: How do you deal with sort of the bullshit of 351 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 1: show biz? Same way you do? You creates and you're 352 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: not in show business, of course you are. You're in 353 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 1: show business. I mean, I mean is to entertain, and 354 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: you do you entertain? You inform. We're all in the 355 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: business of entertainment when you think about it, whether you're 356 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: creating a service or a product, we're in entertainment, and 357 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: I think the way to manage it. And what I 358 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 1: tell young young actors or writers or directors people want 359 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: to be in the business, get your personal life in order. 360 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: Get that straight. Make sure that you're in you love 361 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: the work and not the idea of some uh effect 362 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 1: of some result. Yes you're not. Don't look ahead it 363 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: like I'm I'm out to get fame and fortune, because 364 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 1: that's that's the fool's erind isn't it. It is, because 365 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: I wouldn't know how to approach that. Just focus on 366 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: what you do and what you love to do, and 367 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: if you're meant to get anything from that, it will happen. 368 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: So I'm you know, just you kind of you. I 369 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: think you've again I'm acting like I've known you since 370 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: you were five. But it seems to me that you 371 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: are very grounded and you really have never lost perspective 372 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: per se. Also, you know, you were a successful actor, 373 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: but you're huge sort of success came later in life. Yeah, 374 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: I think that's it was a benefit because you know, 375 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 1: I've I've been married for thirty four years and lovely Robin, 376 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: and we have a we have a very good life, 377 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: and but it's very very normal. And I remember when 378 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: I was on Malcolm in the Middle and I was 379 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: nominated for an Emmy and we go to the Emmys 380 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: and I'm in my tuxedo and everybody Brian brianber and 381 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 1: taking pictures, pictures, pictures with Robin and I and and 382 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: we're getting the limo and we're the red carpet and 383 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: it's all fancy Hollywood, Mollywood and uh. And we go 384 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 1: home and I pay the babysitter and say goodnight, and 385 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: Robin walks into the kitchen and turns her nose and goes, 386 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 1: oh my god, what's And she discovers there's something stinky 387 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: in the garbage and she just picks up the plastic 388 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: garbage bag and shoves it in my hands. And I 389 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: don't say a word because that's my job. And I 390 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 1: opened the back door and I'm and no, it's starting 391 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: to drip. Something is really bad in here. And I'm 392 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: holding the dripping garbage, smelly garbage bag out at arm's 393 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: length so it doesn't drip on my tuxedo and I'm 394 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: walking out to the garbage and I realized, not twenty 395 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 1: minutes ago, people were please picture, let me take a picture. 396 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 1: Will you have an autographer? And now I'm taking smelly 397 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: garbage out of the and I smiled, because that's it. 398 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: That's the reality of it, that's real life, that's tangible. 399 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: It's right there, smelly garbage and all. And that's what 400 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: I want to embrace. I want to embrace the reality 401 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 1: of life. And if you can create a foundation of that, 402 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: then you have room to dream and go and take chances. 403 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: But you because you always have your kind of like 404 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: an invisible tether to something that's real. And that's why 405 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 1: you should get sort of your personal life in order, 406 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: because that is really what matters, that's what counts. And 407 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: and you know, I think, I think for so many 408 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: young people who experience fame at a very early age, 409 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: we see how destructive and toxic it is. And now, 410 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, we live in a culture where everybody 411 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 1: can be famous on social media for one thing or another, 412 00:27:55,119 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: and I worry about the impact it has on young 413 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: people and sort of getting you know, and I experienced 414 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 1: this myself. You know, I think you get endorphins from 415 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 1: external validation and affirmation and the idea that that they 416 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 1: their sense of self is predicated upon their the number 417 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 1: of likes or the followers. It's it's a very unhealthy 418 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 1: I think recipe for living life as a healthy kind 419 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: of grounded person. It's an extremely unhealthy way of life. 420 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: I think from our perspective, people of a certain age, 421 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: looking back, we didn't have that when we were young. 422 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: What do we do? How do we help this generation 423 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: and the younger generations to come to to realize what 424 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: is really important to them? I think you know this, No, 425 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: you know. It used to be where if you weren't 426 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: invited to a party and Monday morning you heard there 427 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: was a party. Oh, that's kind of a bummer. I 428 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: didn't I wasn't invited, which happens to me. Um. But 429 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: now it's instantaneous that party is happening right now because 430 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: you're seeing that you are not there. That that is 431 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: devastating to young formidable mind. Yeah, listen, I'm glad even 432 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: though they're still only twenty six and thirty one. I 433 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: feel really bad for parents who are having to to 434 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: deal with it, and I think they just need to 435 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: take take it away, you know, take it away and 436 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: have hours where they can be on their phones. But 437 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: we digress, Brian, we digress. Let's talk about um that 438 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: your your mescal company, and I want to know what 439 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: else kind of you're excited about these days? Are you 440 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: going to do well? Before we talk about mescal? And 441 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: I have to be I have a confession to make. 442 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: I know what your confession is. I don't. I know. 443 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: I know that the last time we had dinner, we're 444 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: having mescal, and you went, I don't know. Can I 445 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: have something else? I don't have, dare you? I don't. 446 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: It's too smoky for me. I just I don't have 447 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: a palette for it. Yeah, you know, when you grow up, 448 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: you know you'll you'll have an opportune A lot of 449 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: the good news is a lot of people do listen. 450 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: How's the company going? It's gangbusters? Really. Aaron, Paul and 451 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: I started this three and a half years ago, and 452 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: we were then like, I think there's a hundred and 453 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: twenty five or six different mescal brands in the world, 454 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: and we were right there with them. Three and a 455 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: half years later, we're now number four, and yeah, we 456 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: have our eyes set on being number one. It's a 457 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: nice lofty goal for it. We should say the name 458 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: of the brand for you know, shameless plug. And what 459 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: I like about your origin story, as they say, is 460 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: that you didn't kind of just slap your name on 461 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: a bottle. You actually did the work. You all went 462 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: to Mexico, you went on, you know, a journey to 463 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: find the best mescal. I say, I think I said 464 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: it wrong, Miscal mescal, Mescal mescal, and you really you 465 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,959 Speaker 1: did the work. You know, That's the only way that 466 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: I wanted to do it. Aaron and I have the 467 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,959 Speaker 1: same work ethic. We come from blue collar families and 468 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: we don't really know any other way, but just keep 469 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: your head down and do the do the work, put 470 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: in the hours. And whether it's mescal or your own 471 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: acting career, if you don't put in the hours and 472 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: put in the work, you're not going to be successful. 473 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: That's a guarantee. UM. So we went down to Wahaca, Mexico, 474 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: and we sampled almost a hundred different mescals that we 475 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: didn't have brands connected to them, and we had very 476 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: different palettes. I have, I tease him, I have a 477 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: sophisticated palette and he has kind of a a brown 478 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: paper bag in the parking lot palette, according to you, 479 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: according to me exactly, he know, but he he loves 480 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: a strong scotch. He loves a burning sensation. I'm not 481 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: that way. You're a smooth I want to smooth. I 482 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: want to be introduced and seduced into my spirits. So 483 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: you're having a lot of fun with that, right, I mean? 484 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: Where the dos umbres? And what about theater um? You 485 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: know I loved all the way. I also saw you 486 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: a network. We went to see you at a play 487 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: in a play in Los Angeles that I thought was 488 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: wonderful written by I think someone who works with my 489 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: daughter on a show called The Boys. Right, yeah, and 490 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: obviously you love the theater um? And and do you 491 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: have any plans to revisit something? Or why you look 492 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: at me like that? Because it's one other thing that 493 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: I can't really talk about developing something, and I know 494 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna want me to, I can't you give me 495 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: a little bit of a hint. Yeah, it's it's going 496 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: to be a Broadway play. Oh well, that's good. That's exciting. 497 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: It's it's very exciting. I have a couple more hurdles 498 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: to go to before actually gets into an actual reality 499 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: of casting and these things. But um, and it's something 500 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: that is a little a bit beyond. It's it's going 501 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: to be a musical. And I'm not I'm an actor 502 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: that can carry a tune, but I'm not a singer. 503 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: But it's original. It's it's not a remake. No, it 504 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: is a it is a revival, a revival. Yes, well, 505 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,239 Speaker 1: I'll tell you this as soon as I know, and 506 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: I've I've gotten the green light when to do it. 507 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: I'll come and I'll mention it to you first. Okay, 508 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: I'll get a scoop here on next question? How old 509 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: are you Brian Cranspin, I'm I'm No, you're not, You're 510 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: you're my Are we the same, mate? I'm sixty six okay, 511 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: and I'm almost sixty six. And it's so great to 512 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: see you like doing your thing, taking on new challenges 513 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 1: and you know, and and not going quietly into this 514 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 1: good night. You know, it's nice to do you ever 515 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,240 Speaker 1: want to retire? Do you ever want to take it easy? Personally? 516 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: I don't because I think I would shrivel up and 517 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: die if I didn't work. I would, Um, my mother, God, 518 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: bless her. She she had Alzheimer's, and she she died 519 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: of Alzheimer's fifteen years ago now, and so the possibility 520 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: of of that in a hereditary sense is there. And 521 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: I often said, as long as I'm enjoying and having fun, 522 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 1: I will continue to work. If I don't want to 523 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: struggle to remember lines, I don't want to be nervous 524 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 1: and anxious about any of that. If it comes to that, 525 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: then I would retire immediately. Um, I am not going 526 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,760 Speaker 1: to be the person on stage with an earpiece being 527 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: fed his lines and then I just hear it and 528 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: repeat it. Here, it repeat it. It sounds pretty good 529 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: to me. No, God that that that itself puts more 530 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: anxiety inducing thoughts in my head than memorizing. You know. 531 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: That's that's part of it. But if if I ever 532 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: lose the joy of performing, then I'll retire right away. 533 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 1: But so far, no, I love it. What a gift 534 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,720 Speaker 1: I get. I have to constantly say, I can't believe 535 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: what I get to do. This is just unbelievable that 536 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: I get to play. I get to play for a living. 537 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: And so when Monday comes around, I'm excited because I 538 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: get to go back to work and play. Uh, it's 539 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: just that it's just the best but a great way 540 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,760 Speaker 1: to live. Yeah, it is. I've been very fortunate. Thank you, Brian, 541 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: Thank you Katie. 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