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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody. Welcome into the Fantasy Pros Football Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: Ryan Warmley, joining this Friday morning, the start of November

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Speaker 1: by Pat fitz Morris and by Derek browd Bellas we

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Speaker 1: are into now the third month of the NFL season.

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Speaker 1: We are into the second half of the season. Kind

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Speaker 1: of that with it not being an even number of weeks.

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Speaker 1: It kind of happens in the middle of this week.

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Speaker 1: But we are, I mean in the stretch run really

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Speaker 1: of fantasy seasons. Remarkable stuff that it goes as fast.

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Speaker 1: It feels like it goes faster every year deeper. How

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Speaker 1: is your Halloween?

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Speaker 2: That's good man.

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Speaker 3: I was telling Pat, I had some misgivings or problems

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Speaker 3: with I makeup and stuff for my costume. Apparently you

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Speaker 3: can be allergic to that thing. Didn't know that until now.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know whether to thank really crappy I

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Speaker 3: makeup or old age, but one.

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Speaker 2: Of them is to blame here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fits, how about you? We talked a bit about

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Speaker 1: some of your favorite candies and scary movies yesterday. How

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Speaker 1: was your actual Halloweens?

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Speaker 4: It was good. So my kids have aged out of

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Speaker 4: the trick retreating phase, but you know, we it was funny.

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Speaker 4: My wife was like swatting my son's hand, my hand

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Speaker 4: as we were going into this big candy bag. She

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Speaker 4: was all worried we weren't gonna have enough for the

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Speaker 4: trigger treaters and we never get a ton. So of course, like,

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Speaker 4: we still have more than half the bag left, and

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Speaker 4: now I can have free rein over the kit Kats

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Speaker 4: and Reese's Peanut buttercups and Snickers. So yeah, it's all good.

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Speaker 3: Pat, Do you not use the tube bowl approach? You

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Speaker 3: take out one really fast, dump a little bit in there,

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Speaker 3: hide it into the cupboard.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, okay, de Bro, I'm mad.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think of the Worther's original joke yesterday when

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Speaker 1: we were talking about the favorite candy.

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Speaker 2: That's what I didn't know if anybody heard.

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Speaker 1: That, and I was mad. I didn't think of myself quickly, Devra,

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Speaker 1: because we talked about yesterday with ericson what is your

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Speaker 1: favorite candy and your favorite Halloween movie?

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Speaker 2: Oh, people hated this. People hated this out on social media.

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Speaker 3: It's candy corn Baby, the one I want, the one

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Speaker 3: I want of Halloween candy.

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Speaker 2: I will not be denied this. It is so awesome.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm the only person who doesn't have

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Speaker 1: candy corn first or last. For me, it's just fine.

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Speaker 1: It's a perfectly fine Halloween candy.

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Speaker 3: That's a polarizing take, Worm Gottas mentioned it polarizing take.

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Speaker 1: And then what about your favorite Halloween movie?

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Speaker 3: Ooh, that's a really good one. I'm not that much

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Speaker 3: of a scary movie boff Man honestly either.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it has to be hocus Pocus one on one,

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Speaker 3: that's what Ericson said. Yeah, it has to be hocus Pocus. Definitely.

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Speaker 3: That's definitely a banger. Although I will say, uh, before

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Speaker 3: we get rolling here, a lot of sequels really suck

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Speaker 2: That one that was a good one.

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Speaker 1: Hocus Pocus sequel. Yeah, yeah, I've ever seen it. I

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Speaker 1: probably haven't. I just don't remember it. So I'm not

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Speaker 1: a big scary movie guy either.

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Speaker 2: Well, Worm, that one won't scare you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's that's a good point. I said, scream

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Speaker 1: because that's kind of like a parody of scary movies.

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Speaker 1: That was my my choice yesterday. All right, but we're

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Speaker 1: past Halloween, like, so we're past October, we're past the

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Speaker 1: halfway point just about of the fantasy season. Like I mentioned,

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Speaker 1: with Colin Coward and his over under picks for the

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Over Under Challenge. Time now for the Week nine

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Speaker 1: Over Under Challenge. As always, this segment is presented by DraftKings.

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Speaker 1: I'm Ryan Warmley, joined by Colin Coward. We're talking through

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Speaker 1: some of our favorite player picks for this week's slate.

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Speaker 1: We will jump right in, but First, I do want

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Speaker 1: to remind everyone listening you can play along with our

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Speaker 1: over under challenge and try to not only beat Colin,

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Speaker 1: fantasypros dot com Slash Challenge Colin. Let's start with the quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins going up against the Cowboys quarterback sixteen in

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Speaker 1: fantasy scoring on DraftKings this season. He does have multiple

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Speaker 1: top five finishes so far. Obviously, that five hundred yard

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Speaker 1: He's now facing this Cowboys pass defense allowing eight point

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Speaker 5: Well, he's made a lot of hay against the Tampa

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Speaker 5: Bay Buccaneers and the Carolina Panthers. They come off a

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Speaker 5: very emotional game. I think there's gonna be some points

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Speaker 5: in this game. I actually I rarely like the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 5: I like him in this spot because Atlanta generates no

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Speaker 5: be careful with Cousins. He does generate a lot. If

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Speaker 5: back a little bit in this game. I think it's

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Speaker 5: lower scoring than people think. I'll take Dallas to win.

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Speaker 1: Do you think maybe Beijeon has a better game on

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Speaker 5: I do. I like Beijean a lot. I think Kirk Cousins,

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Speaker 5: because that offensive line is very good, has made Kyle

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Speaker 5: Pitts better probably than he is. I think he's been

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Speaker 5: a huge disappointment. Brock Bowers for the Raiders has been

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Speaker 5: everything promised a tight end. Kyle Pitts has been a disappointment.

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Speaker 5: I'll always take bijon. Cowboys don't defend the run vigorously,

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Speaker 1: Another quarterback we wanted to hit on Jalen Hurts going

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Speaker 1: up against the Jags. He's quarterback three this season twenty

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Speaker 5: Last week, I think he had ten rushes. Only he's

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Speaker 5: I think when you when you close it in a

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Speaker 5: more efficient the turnovers come down. I like Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 1: One of the other players in this week's challenge is

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Speaker 1: actually DeVante Smith's in this same game. So let's actually

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Speaker 1: jump ahead to him while we're talking about the Eagles. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: He's wide receiver twenty three to nine point four fantasy

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Speaker 1: Let's look at a running back here, Josh Jacobs against

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Speaker 1: Love is going to be really important in this one,

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Speaker 5: green Bay's the side here just because Jared Goff's limping,

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Speaker 5: Matt Lafleur is an elite schemer, so I think green Bay,

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Speaker 1: he's done scheming, he's got to be up there for

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Speaker 1: Coach of the Year so far, right, I mean what

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Speaker 1: he's done with Jordan Love missing games, you know, on

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Speaker 1: I'm more and more impressed by Matt Lafluir.

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Speaker 5: Matt Lafleur's offense. And I think he likes the power

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Speaker 5: You can see it. And I think for years and

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Speaker 5: Rodgers too much credit. And I think Lafleur, to your point,

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Speaker 1: Let's wrap up with a couple of receivers here. Malik

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Speaker 1: Nahbors is on this week's challenge, going up against the

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Speaker 1: Commanders for the second time. That pass defense is playing

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Speaker 1: a bit better the last couple of weeks compared to

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Speaker 1: how they did early. That Week two game from Neighbors

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Speaker 1: dot Com Slash Challenge to play along all season long.

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Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, Colin. Thanks man. All Right, fellas, it's

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Speaker 1: our Week nine key questions here. We'll start off with

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Speaker 3: I'm honestly not the Bolts passing. Our past defense has

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Speaker 4: a grotesque injury. Great to see one of the best

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Speaker 4: this offense again, worm Like the passing game has new

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Speaker 4: life with Jamis. We're getting chubbed back and the offensive

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Speaker 4: that's the danger here. But man if Jamis doesn't turn

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Speaker 4: This is going to be a fun offense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Dee Broh, I wanted to ask you about the

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Speaker 3: So it's not so much that I hate Jamis this week.

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Speaker 3: I just like other scoring environments better than this one.

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Speaker 1: Go to Cowboys Falcons. I want to talk about Kyle Pitts,

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Speaker 4: Maybe on the borderline of it, Like this resurgence is

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Speaker 1: As favorable, how would you rate the matchup this week?

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Speaker 4: Enough that I'm checking to see where I have Jamis

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Speaker 2: I actually quietly loved this matchup for Kyle Pitts. I

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Speaker 3: Dallas has either faced a lot of good tight ends

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Speaker 3: Like you could say, okay, well, they've played the Ravens,

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Speaker 2: I've got him at tight end six for the.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's the thing I mean. Ingram and Otten

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Speaker 1: Bro What would you where would you drink Pits in

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Speaker 1: terms of rest of season? Like, how many tight ends

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Speaker 3: Like we've seen two to three games really good of

431
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Speaker 3: like Bijon like coming on, like same thing with Kyle

432
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Speaker 3: Pitts and Drake London. Like, I think there are still

433
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,800
Speaker 3: better days ahead for this Atlanta Falcons offense. So I

434
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Speaker 3: think the conversation begins at tight end four. I've got

435
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Speaker 3: him at tight end five rest the season?

436
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Speaker 1: Does that?

437
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Speaker 4: Does that mean that they're going to insert Pennox at quarterback?

438
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 4: The iteration of this offense, Kirk is good, Dad.

439
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Speaker 1: I guess, I guess fits. We've officially hit your deadline

440
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Speaker 1: for that to happen, right, wasn't I know.

441
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Speaker 4: Of Cousins getting benched on the merits for Pennix? Didn't happen,

442
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,400
Speaker 4: but hey still might happen before the season is out.

443
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,640
Speaker 4: We see they can't play the Buccaneers every week. Man

444
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,479
Speaker 4: their regular season matchups against the Bucks are over there.

445
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Speaker 2: If they could, that would be so glorious if they could.

446
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 1: Let's go to Broncos Ravens games in Baltimore. Bow Knicks

447
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,879
Speaker 1: has been a top ten fantasy quarterback in three of

448
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Speaker 1: the last four weeks. He now gets a Baltimore defense

449
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Speaker 1: that has been thrown on all season and is also

450
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Speaker 1: just pretty banged up. In general, The Ravens are good

451
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Speaker 1: typically against mobile quarterbacks, which is not surprising because they

452
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Speaker 1: see one every day in practice. But this is not

453
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Speaker 1: the typical Ravens defense, at least it certainly hasn't been

454
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Speaker 1: the first two months. Do we trust bow Knicks to

455
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Speaker 1: continue his hot streak or are we worried about the

456
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Speaker 1: rookie QB in Baltimore, a place where rookie QB's typically struggle.

457
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Speaker 3: Deebro, what do you think typically used to struggle? I mean,

458
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Speaker 3: I don't think this past defense can freaking stop anybody. Nowadays,

459
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Speaker 3: I've got him flirting.

460
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Speaker 2: I think I.

461
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Speaker 3: Think you can start the conversation for him as low

462
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Speaker 3: in quarterback one somewhere around QB seven QB eight.

463
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Speaker 2: Right now.

464
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Speaker 3: Currently I've got him at QB thirteen. He's in a

465
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Speaker 3: long mix of guys like the Staffords, Sam Darnold's, Dak Prescott,

466
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Speaker 3: Pat Mahomes of the week. If somebody wanted to have

467
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Speaker 3: him as a low end QB one, I totally understand it, because,

468
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Speaker 3: I mean, worm, you might want to cover your years.

469
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Speaker 2: I'm not worried about the Baltimore defense.

470
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Speaker 4: Like at all.

471
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Speaker 3: They have to look, they have to show the ability

472
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Speaker 3: to stop anybody through the air. And this is not

473
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Speaker 3: even just oh well, they've been hurt and dude, they

474
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Speaker 3: were at full strength and they still sucked. It didn't

475
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Speaker 3: freaking matter. So bo Nix, I do think that he's

476
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Speaker 3: probably gonna end up as a QB one this week,

477
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Speaker 3: so I want to stay probably above consensus considering where

478
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Speaker 3: ECR comes in. But I mean, you're telling me the

479
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Speaker 3: past defense that's given up the most passing touchdowns in

480
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Speaker 3: the NFL, the most passing yards per game. Hell and no,

481
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Speaker 3: I'm not scared of them.

482
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Speaker 1: So before I toss to fits, I have one follow

483
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Speaker 1: up for you, d Bro, because this is thing I

484
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Speaker 1: brought up on an earlier show this week too. The

485
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Speaker 1: rape prior to the injuries went healthy. The Ravens defense

486
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Speaker 1: where they really struggled was against teams that had an

487
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Speaker 1: Alpha receiver. Jamar Chase did really well against him, Rashi

488
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Speaker 1: Rice in that first game of the season, ceed Lamp

489
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Speaker 1: Defante Adams and that Raiders loss. It was always the

490
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Speaker 1: teams that had that really really high level number one.

491
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Speaker 1: The Broncos don't really have that. I mean, your milers

492
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Speaker 1: mayvarian some of these guys, but none of them are

493
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Speaker 1: clearly in that tier one tier. I mean, even in

494
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 1: that Bucks game, that Bucks offense looked a lot different

495
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Speaker 1: as soon as Mike Evans went out. So now that

496
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Speaker 1: they are getting healthy, because healthy er Nate Wiggins and

497
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 1: Rol Humphrey are practicing again this week and trending towards playing.

498
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Speaker 1: It seems like if they're healthy, then this is the

499
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Speaker 1: type of passing attack that doesn't have that alpha that

500
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Speaker 1: has really hurt them so much this year. Does that

501
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Speaker 1: way into it at all? Or do you just think

502
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Speaker 1: like any style of Like I guess what I'm asking

503
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Speaker 1: is because that Bill's game is kind of the prime

504
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Speaker 1: example of a team that didn't take advantage of the defense,

505
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 1: and that was Priamari Cooper trade. They didn't have that

506
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 1: alpha guy and it really worked to the Ravens benefit.

507
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Speaker 1: Do you think that this could be another scenario like

508
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Speaker 1: that if as they get healthy, or do you think

509
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Speaker 1: they're just kind of in shambles and it's gonna be

510
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 1: strong passing regardless.

511
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna throw this back at you, worm, who do

512
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 3: you think is the better NFL wide receiver right now?

513
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 3: Cedric Tillman or Courtland Sutton? Is he a true alpha

514
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Speaker 3: because he absolutely just wrecked them last week?

515
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Speaker 1: Well, but that was the one game that was the

516
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 1: game where they were beat up, that was where they

517
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 1: didn't have a hun.

518
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Speaker 2: But are they fully healthy walking into this game?

519
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 1: They're healthy or they're not? They're certainly not fully healthy.

520
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: It's a good point.

521
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Speaker 3: No, I really like I'm needling you a little bit here,

522
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 3: but a good point I think. I think in its entirety,

523
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 3: this this secondary, whether healthy or not, I think has

524
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 3: been downgraded to a point where I I don't think

525
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 3: you have to be that true type of alpha. Like

526
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Speaker 3: I think there's a conversation, especially in skill, skill sets

527
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 3: and archetypes between Cedric Tillman and Courtland Sutton. So I

528
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 3: think Courtland Sutton is good enough to take advantage of

529
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 3: this matchup and lead the way. And would we have

530
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Speaker 3: said this maybe before last week? Probably maybe not.

531
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Speaker 2: But he's been getting a ton of volume and he

532
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 2: took advantage of the Carolina Panthers last week, So I

533
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 2: think you could do it against the Ravens.

534
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Speaker 1: Soo, Ravens just us. He can't get pressure on anybody,

535
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 1: which is now came any offense. Yeah. But by the way,

536
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 1: this isn't even me being defensive by the Ravens. This

537
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Speaker 1: is me deciding if I need to start Courtland Sutton

538
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: in a few weeks this week, so start him the

539
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: follow up? Yeah, Fitz, what do you think about this?

540
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 1: You know, we we talked about bo Nicks again yesterday,

541
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: but again top ten Fantasy quarterback three the last four weeks.

542
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Speaker 2: He's been on a real leater QB two last week, and.

543
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Speaker 4: We sort of joked about, you know, the historic historically

544
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 4: not a good matchup for rookie quarterbacks going into Baltimore,

545
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Speaker 4: But you know, this Ravens defense does not have Terrell

546
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 4: Suggs or Ed Reed roaming around anymore. So, but I

547
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 4: still kind of agree with your premise here, Worm that

548
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 4: maybe this isn't quite the matchup it looks to be

549
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 4: on paper. And a lot of the reason why bo

550
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 4: Nicks has been an effective fantasy quarterback has been the

551
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 4: value he has added as a runner. Like he has

552
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 4: put up really impressive rushing numbers, like more impressive than

553
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 4: some of the guys we were expecting big rushing totals from.

554
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 4: So can he just come in and pick apart the

555
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 4: Ravens past defense, especially if they do have I don't

556
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 4: know what the status of Marlin Humphrey Nate Wiggins is.

557
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 4: Are those guys going to play it this week?

558
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: Where I'm they've been limited in practice, so it's it's unclear.

559
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 4: So, like I mean, I still feel like it's a

560
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 4: capable secondary if those guys are healthy. So yeah, I

561
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 4: do kind of have a hard time believing that Bonix,

562
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Speaker 4: a rookie who has not really been dicing up people

563
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 4: with his arm, is going to come into Baltimore, which

564
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 4: has traditionally been a really tough place to play during

565
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 4: the John Harbaugh era and just like tear it up.

566
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 4: So I am conservative with my ranking of Bonnicks this week.

567
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Speaker 4: I've got him QB sixteen.

568
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Speaker 1: Just quickly, I want to throw a second question out

569
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 1: for this matchup, because we talked about it on the

570
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Speaker 1: day it happened, but we haven't really talked about it

571
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: on the shows at least the ones I've been on

572
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: in the days since. So now that we have had

573
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Speaker 1: some time to kind of process this trade, what are

574
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Speaker 1: we doing with the Baltimore pass catchers this first week

575
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: with Deontay Johnson in town? Fits for this game?

576
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 4: I'm starting Jay Flowers and maybe Mark Andrews depending on

577
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 4: my tight end situation, and sitting everyone else.

578
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 3: Debra, I'm honestly worried about everybody in this matchup. Dude,

579
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 3: Somebody's catching a Patrick's certain shadow. It's gonna happen. The

580
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 3: question is who you betting on I. I don't think

581
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 3: it's gonna be Rashad Bateman. I don't think it's gonna

582
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 3: be a Deontay Johnson, which I'll throw this out here,

583
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 3: I unless you are oppressed, I would not be starting

584
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 3: Deontay Johnson this week. Like we this is just going

585
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 3: back to what have we seen out of these guys

586
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 3: getting traded in short windows? Amario Cooper, uh, DeAndre Hopkins,

587
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 3: Like they're not gonna play. He's not gonna play a

588
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 3: full time snap role. That's not gonna happen. So really

589
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 3: you're just hoping and praying he catches a touchdown because

590
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 3: outside of that, he probably has a down game. We've

591
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 3: seen it off of every single wide receiver, even freaking

592
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 3: Devonte Adams trade and he had report with the quarterback

593
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 3: going in. So it's just not enough time to digest

594
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 3: the playbook nor to really like integrate yourself fully in

595
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 3: the offense. Like so I'm I'm down on Rashad Bateman

596
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 3: because and wharm you know this as well as I do.

597
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 3: Baltimore loves their their twelve and thirteen personnel. How much

598
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 3: do we see that? Like do we see more eleven personnel?

599
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 3: I think probably down the stretch. But I don't think

600
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,479
Speaker 3: that's gonna be automatic in the first game for Deontay Johnson.

601
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 3: So in that idea, Okay, well, if they're playing multiple

602
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,719
Speaker 3: tight ends, probably still then they're gonna have to get

603
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 3: Deontay Johnson's going to factor in his passing attack. He's

604
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 3: probably not taking snaps away from Zay Flowers. It's probably

605
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 3: Rashad Bateman. If they're in two wede receiver sets, it's

606
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 3: gonna take the snap hit, so Bateman could see his

607
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 3: snaps lowered. Deontay's not gonna be a full time guy.

608
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 3: Somebody's gonna catch a Patrick's certain shadow that's probably going

609
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 3: to be Zay Flowers. If I'm Denver, I say, you've

610
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 3: got a part time guy that you just traded for,

611
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 3: not so much worried about him. You know another guy

612
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 3: that's just a deep ball specialist in Vershaan Bateman, not

613
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 3: that worried about him. Okay, let's just wipe Save Flowers

614
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 3: off the map with patrickes for ten and you try

615
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 3: to beat us.

616
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Speaker 2: Go ahead. That's if I'm the the Denver Broncos DC.

617
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Speaker 3: That's the way that I'm looking at it, And so

618
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 3: I'm worried, honestly about all these different pass catchers.

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Speaker 1: There are lots of interesting matchups in Week nine. The

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Speaker 1: clear best game on the slate is Detroit Green Bay.

631
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Speaker 1: Huge NFC North implications in this one fits. Do you

632
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Speaker 1: think Jordan Love's gonning a play?

633
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 4: Dee Brown and I were talking about this pre show.

634
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Speaker 4: It seems like things are trending that way, and I'm

635
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Speaker 4: kind of surprised because the Packers have been a pretty

636
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Speaker 4: cautious organization about bringing back injured players. They have the

637
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638
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Speaker 4: three weeks of rest but then again, they're playing the

639
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Speaker 4: Lions at home, so if they have designs on winning

640
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Speaker 4: the division, they really do need to win this game.

641
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Last I looked, the Lions were laying three and

642
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Speaker 1: a half in this one. Looks like that is actually

643
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Speaker 1: down to two and a half. So those are continuing

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, let's go to Dolphins Bills. The Dolphins

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Speaker 1: offense scored twenty seven points in Week eight, looking a

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Speaker 1: lot more normal with two tongue of Iloa back at quarterback.

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Speaker 1: The unit struggled mightily in the first matchup with the Bills, though,

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Speaker 1: even before Tua left that game with a concussion back

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Speaker 1: in week two. So what do we expect from Miami

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00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: skill players this week? Fits well.

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Speaker 4: One guy who didn't struggle mightily in that first matchup

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Speaker 4: with the Bills Forum was Devon a Chen who had

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Speaker 4: twenty two carries for ninety six yards and seven catches

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00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 4: for sixty nine yards and a touchdown. So I would

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Speaker 4: expect to see a chan heavily involved as a pass

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Speaker 4: catcher once again, because the Bills have allowed an NFL

679
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 4: high four hundred and thirty four receiving yards to running

680
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 4: backs and the Bills run defense, you know, not that great.

681
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 4: So Ah Chan's going to be heavily involved in and

682
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 4: maybe Raheem Moster gets in on things, but otherwise I

683
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 4: don't know. Like Tyreek Hill has not had a great

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00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 4: deal of success against the Bills in recent years. Jalen

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00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 4: Waddle had a pair of one hundred yard games against

686
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 4: the Bills in twenty twenty two, but hasn't done much since.

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00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 4: Just seems like Sean McDermott and his staff kind of

688
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 4: have a handle on the Miami passing game and how

689
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 4: to keep it under control. So I'm excited about a

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00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 4: chan tempered enthusiasm for other components of the Miami offense.

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Speaker 1: Deebra, how are you approaching the Dolphins in this one.

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Speaker 3: I'm currently on betting Pros right now, betting the over

693
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Speaker 3: at plus money on devon A Chan's receptions at four

694
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Speaker 3: and a half. That's why how I'm attacking this, hoom.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a Chan time, dude, and honestly, like

696
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be. I don't want to start Jalen Wattle.

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Speaker 3: If anybody tuned into the live stream yesterday on Halloween,

698
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 3: basically every question we feeled was, hey, do us play

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Speaker 3: Jalen Wattle? And I'm like no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: no no no no, Like you got to get volume

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00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 3: to score fantasy points even in tough matchups, jaal and

702
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Speaker 3: Wattle's not getting it Like this is very much exactly

703
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 3: what we saw last year. It's the Tyreek Hill show.

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Speaker 3: Get him a thirty percent target chair and Jalen Wattle

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Speaker 3: if you get targets, cool if you don't cool. So

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Speaker 3: lately with Tua, the wide receiver two in this offense

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00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 3: has been devon a chan so I'm I'm gonna also

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00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,239
Speaker 3: be below consensus on Tyreek Hill, like Tua has been

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Speaker 3: crushed in these matchups by the Buffalo Bills, and Tyreek

710
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Speaker 3: Hill is gonna get his targets and stuff. This is

711
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 3: a top three pass defense in the NFL. Like Tyreek Hill,

712
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 3: I've got a wide receiver eight. I can make you

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00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 3: a really good case. Like straight up, I want to

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Speaker 3: play Chris Alave over Tyreek Hill this week. I would

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00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 3: want to play assuming like Hookah's banged up and stuff

716
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 3: when we get to that game later, but Cooper Cup

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00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 3: probably playing him over tyreek Hill. Like I'm I just

718
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 3: think this is a game where we could see the

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Speaker 3: Dolphins have struggled religiously against the Bills, and I don't

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Speaker 3: see what's going to change in this matchup. So I'm

721
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 3: going to nerf tyreek Hill. I'm gonna have Jalen Wattle

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00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 3: in the wide receiver three or four territory and definitely

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Speaker 3: do not start him this week and fire up a chain.

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00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 2: I think he crushes.

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Speaker 1: This is a total non secutor. I meant to withy

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00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: this stuff at the top of the show and just forgot.

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00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: And since we're talking about the AFC East in this matchup,

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00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: I'll use that as this, like, you know, excuse for

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00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: transitioning to it. Where does that Garrett Wilson catch rank

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Speaker 1: amongst the all time catches you guys saw from last

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Speaker 1: night's game. That was I think it was better than

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Speaker 1: the Odell catch, Like you think it better. I think

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Speaker 1: it was better. He his he like kind of together.

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Speaker 1: This dude was like going full Michael Jordan, like doing

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00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: the splits in mid air follow I thought it was

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00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: more import assive I mean, obviously the O double one

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00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: was impressive too, but I thought this catch was just

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00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: it just looked sick. It was one of the coolest

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00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 1: catches I've ever seen.

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00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 4: I think we're not recency, We're not docking him for

741
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 4: maybe not being technically inbounds on that. I thought that

742
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 4: was a dubious inbounds call. To be quite honest, it

743
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 4: was that was a vibe call.

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00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 2: The reps were like, we can't call this not a touchdown.

745
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 2: We're gonna get booed.

746
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 3: We're gonna have to get security to help us escort

747
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 3: us out if we don't call this a touchdown.

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00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: Garrett, he was making one handed catches right and left

749
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: last night. That was that was fun to watch, all right.

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00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: Like I said, I didn't really have a good transition

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00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: to that.

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00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's a top ten all time catch,

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00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 2: no doubt. I think it's the top ten.

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00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: It just and again, like not only was it just

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00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: an impressive catch, it just looked like it still.

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00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 3: Seeing you know, the one thing I've looked for, Guys,

757
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 3: nobody has made the Garrett Wilson air Jordan like picture

758
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,760
Speaker 3: mean yet, Like I haven't seen that yet. I've seen Odell.

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00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 3: I haven't seen the negative space picture yet, so I waiting.

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00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of it with like them side

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Speaker 1: by side, like people posting the two images together, but

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Speaker 1: I didn't see a lot of the like actual edited team.

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen the aired Garrett yet. I'm waiting for that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Will Away, which one's six?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? All right, let's go to the next game here.

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Speaker 1: Saints Panthers with Deontay Johnson, who we already talked about

767
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: now in Baltimore. Who is the Carolina receiver to play

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Speaker 1: in Fantasy xaviorly Get, who I think had kind of

769
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: popped up on the injury report a bit. Jalen Coker,

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Speaker 1: who I know Devra has been a big fan of

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00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,240
Speaker 1: for a while, or you know door number three depru

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Speaker 1: will start with you.

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00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 2: Well, I know all the entire fantasy industry is in

774
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: on him right now.

775
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 3: But if you've been in these streets, you've been on

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00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 3: this podcast feed, and you've been listening to shows since

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00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 3: before the NFL Draft, you already knew about Jalen Coker.

778
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 3: You already had him stashed in all your dynaty taxi squads.

779
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 3: Because I was talking about him before the freaking NFL

780
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 3: Draft and how he It was a shame.

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00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 2: It was a travesty that he went undrafted. Kid can play.

782
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Speaker 3: I think if you're gonna make a bet on anybody

783
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 3: eating them in receiving art receiving yards this week, I'm

784
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 3: going to put my bet on Jalen Cocher. And this

785
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 3: is no shade against Lagette. Laguat's been good, he hasn't

786
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 3: been great. And the matchup, I just this all goes

787
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 3: back to and yes, the entire Saints secondary.

788
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 2: Is banged up. I'm not gonna say that they're not.

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00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 3: Jalen Cocker has been freaking fantastic on a per route basis,

790
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 3: and the Saints are giving up the eighth most Fantasy

791
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 3: points per game to opposing slot wide receivers and the

792
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 3: third most receiving yards. I it's Jim and Coker week,

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00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 3: people enjoy.

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00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 1: Where are you ranking him?

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00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 5: Like?

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00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: Are you you actively starting him?

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00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 3: I'm actively starting in a few different leagues. Yeah, as

798
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 3: a flex, and I'm gonna have him like right now,

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00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 3: I've got him at Jalen Cocker, Where are you at?

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00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 3: I've got him right now at wide receiver forty two.

801
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 3: I think that he is in the same conversation as Wando,

802
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 3: Robinson and Jay when Tolbert and that's only two spots ahead.

803
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 3: Oh excuse me, yeah, three spots ahead of Xavier Lagette.

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Speaker 1: Okay, fits, What do you think? Do you all so

805
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: endorse Jalen Coker as the guy in this you know,

806
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: receiving game or is it Leaget or is it somebody else?

807
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 4: It's no one With Bryce Young at quarterback for the Panthers,

808
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 4: I'm not starting any of these guys. The rest of

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00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 4: the season is simply a Dynasty scouting mission to assess

810
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Speaker 4: Xavier Legette, Jalen Cocher, and Jatavian Sanders. I am not

811
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 4: letting Deebro talk me into starting Jalen Cocher over Jalen Waddle.

812
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 4: That's not going to happen.

813
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 2: One gets targets fits, the other one won't.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, targets from Bryce Young, Dude, targets from Bryce.

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Speaker 3: I mean yeah, but aren't those targets from Bryce Young

816
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,439
Speaker 3: and the same thing as no targets from Tua?

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00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 2: Or maybe more better for Bryce? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Well, so, so how about sinking with this offense? Then

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Speaker 1: with Bryce Young starting? If Jonathan Brooks is active, fits

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Speaker 1: are you starting him or do you want to know

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00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: see how he looks in his.

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Speaker 4: First Now he is, he is fantasy pyrite, like he

824
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Speaker 4: has been the biggest fool's gold of the twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: four fantasy season. Like everyone thinks he's going to come

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Speaker 4: in and be this workhoorse savior right away. At first

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Speaker 4: of all, no incentive for the Panthers to use him heavily.

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Speaker 4: He is coming off a torn acl, the team does

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Speaker 4: not have playoff aspirations, and Cuba Hubbard is running really well.

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Speaker 4: I would expect them to work in Jonathan Brooks very sparingly.

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Speaker 4: It's a red shirt season for all these guys. It's

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00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 4: like your hot shot University of Maryland basketball recruits. Put

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00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 4: him on the bench for a year, let him learn,

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Speaker 4: bring him in in, you know, as red shirt freshman.

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Speaker 4: A year from now, it might look better for the Panthers.

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Speaker 4: They might have a new quarterback. But this year wash out.

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Speaker 4: Do not start any Panthers other than perhaps Cuba.

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Speaker 1: Bradon Pierce, red shirt freshman this year from Maryland. He

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Speaker 1: said all last year, seven footer can hit the three. God,

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Speaker 1: I'm hoping he's I hoping he's the next successful big

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Speaker 1: ten redshirt freshman since since Ethan Hap that's what's here?

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Speaker 5: We go?

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00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 2: Good lord, what have we done?

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Speaker 1: I know zero people listening care about that. Well, what

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00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: have we done? The show? Dear bro, you are really

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Speaker 1: high on Jonathan Brooks in Dynasty drafts? Are you starting

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Speaker 1: him this week if he's active?

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not starting him.

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Speaker 3: If he can get up to full like, I think

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00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 3: Carolina is being extremely conservative with him because they look

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Speaker 3: at him as one of the cornerstones, the few cornerstones

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Speaker 3: that they do have, if any right now outside of

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Speaker 3: Jonathan Brooks. I think he's a cornerstone of this franchise

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Speaker 3: moving forward, so they are extremely being patient and treating

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00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 3: him with kid gloves. I think that he only plays

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00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 3: a handful of snaps. Could his workload go up down

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Speaker 3: the season to get a look at the young kid.

858
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 3: That all depends on how comfortable he is and how

859
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 3: where his health is at. I don't think that they're

860
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 3: going to like just keep shoving him into into the closet.

861
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 3: If he is ready to go by season's in, he

862
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 3: could see a cup of coffee as the league guy

863
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,919
Speaker 3: later in the season. Do I project that this week?

864
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: No, not at all. Let's go to Bears at Cardinals.

865
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison Junior had one hundred eleven receiving yards and

866
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: a touchdown in Week eight. It was just his second

867
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: game inside the top twenty receiver is in fantasy this season.

868
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: So are we back to ranking him highly even in

869
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: a tough matchup in Chicago or are we saying that

870
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 1: we kind of need to see it some more still

871
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: before we start moving back up the rankings to kind

872
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 1: of where he was during draft season.

873
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 3: Debro, I've got him at wide receiver sixteen right now.

874
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 3: You have to tell me versus ECR is that high?

875
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 3: Am I equal with ECR? Where am I at worm?

876
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 3: Because I feel like I'm probably above ECR with that,

877
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 3: and really ECR is wide receiver seventeen and halfway oare

878
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 3: So I mean, I'm gonna be in line with consensus.

879
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 3: I can't see myself pushing him up much higher considering

880
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 3: all the players that I have above him, And I

881
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 3: think that's right.

882
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 2: Is it a tough matchup? Yes?

883
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 3: And if people have been reading the primer, you thought

884
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 3: the ability for Marvin Harrison Junior to have a big

885
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 3: game last week was there? Because this all goes back

886
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 3: to the coverage data people. Versus too high, he has

887
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 3: not been good and this is part of the role

888
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 3: and part of how they're using him. But versus single high,

889
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 3: he's still been awesome. Single high matchups like that is

890
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 3: the Marvin Harrison Junior the usage that we thought we were.

891
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 2: Getting in every single week.

892
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 3: So going back to this, the Bears run single high

893
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 3: at the fifth highest rate, almost sixty percent of the

894
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 3: defensive snaps against single high, Marvin Harrison Junior has a

895
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 3: twenty five point five percent target chare, almost three yards

896
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 3: per route run, and almost a twenty nine percent first

897
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 3: reach here.

898
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 2: So is this a tough matchup?

899
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: Yes?

900
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 3: Is Marvin Harrison Junior still possibly gonna pop off for

901
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 3: a big game?

902
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 1: Yes, as well.

903
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 4: It's he maybe popped off and the coverage scheme helped

904
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 4: him do that last week. But like it hasn't been

905
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 4: volume based, it was efficiency based. He hasn't seen more

906
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 4: than seven targets in any of his last five games.

907
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 4: So I've got him wide receiver nineteen and that almost

908
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 4: feels generous based on the usage lately. I just I

909
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 4: want to see him more involved, Like I want to

910
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 4: see double digit target games, and we just haven't been

911
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 4: getting them.

912
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean only two games is the top twenty

913
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: receivers this season, and one of them he got all

914
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 1: of his production in one quarter. Quarter. Yeah, it's been

915
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: like five quarters of total you know, productive, you know,

916
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: you know performance from him. So yeah, it it's weird

917
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: because like it really took me a while to start saying, okay,

918
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: maybe he shouldn't be ranked in that like top twelve

919
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: fifteen range, and I came around on that, and then

920
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 1: you see this kind of bounce back game, and it's

921
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: it's always a question, you know, for a ton of

922
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: players every year, like how quickly do you then go

923
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: back to this is the guy we expected versus this

924
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: is the guy we've seen, and maybe this is kind

925
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: of the outlier performance. So I'll be really curious to

926
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 1: see how he does again in this matchup with the Bears.

927
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 2: Just a note on the Rams eight highest single high

928
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 2: rate and now he gets a team that's top five.

929
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good. It's a good note. Speaking of the Rams.

930
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: Rams at Seahawks is our next game. Now. Originally, when

931
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: I put this together, Pukunukua had not left practice with

932
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 1: the knee issue, so the original question was phrased as

933
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: Now that both are back and healthy, Kunakua Cooper Cup

934
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: both belong in the top ten of Fantasy Wide receivers Puka.

935
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: For those who missed it, I can't imagine many people

936
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: did miss it, left practice with any issue. They described

937
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: it like from the Beat reporting and from the team

938
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: as a very minor. We're currently in our are they

939
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: playing tool giving Puka seventy one chance to play? That's

940
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: based on one healthy practice, one limited, and some of

941
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: the reporting. But you guys kind of feel differently. It

942
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: sounds like from what we were talking about before the show.

943
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,959
Speaker 1: So I guess let's instead of treating these guys as healthy,

944
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: let's just turn this into a conversation about this receiving

945
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: game for this week. You know, Pookinakua, with him limited

946
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: or even possibly missing this game, how are you treating

947
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup depro.

948
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 3: I've got Cooper Cup at wide receiver ten, and let's

949
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 3: put unless Pooka misses it, I'm probably not bumping him

950
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 3: much higher than that.

951
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 2: Well, no, I take that back.

952
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 3: I mean, I think if Pooka's out or we get

953
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 3: more pessimistic news today or through the weekend, then Cooper

954
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 3: Cup probably goes up to wide receiver seven for me,

955
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 3: I just dropped Pookah to wide receiver fifteen. I'm more concerned, man,

956
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 3: like this, what kind of injury reporting have we seen

957
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 3: out of this team? Oh, we don't know if Puka's

958
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 3: gonna play a full time role. Okay, that happens. Oh

959
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 3: we get no news about Jordan Whittington being hurt and

960
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 3: not playing at all because people were starting him and

961
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 3: then he plays nothing in one of the games.

962
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: Like, so, counting this a little coal division, man, The

963
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: forty nine ers with the McCaffrey stuff early in the year,

964
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: the Rams lately, the Seahawks never have their injury reports

965
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 1: out of them. This whole division is just like playing

966
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: fastest for injury reporting.

967
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 2: It's absolutely frustrating, man.

968
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 3: So I I mean, if we're getting news right now

969
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 3: definitively that he is one hundred percent not going to

970
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 3: be one hundred percent, like it, that's the fact he's

971
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 3: not going to be one hundred percent going into this game.

972
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 3: People need to kind of treat this with kid gloves

973
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 3: right now. And some of that's bumping up Cooper Cup

974
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 3: at the ranks, and some of that's dropping Pooka Nakua

975
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 3: and depending on what other options, Like, if you're in

976
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 3: an eight or a ten team league and you've got

977
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,240
Speaker 3: other like Studeley options, you might even consider sitting Pooka

978
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 3: Nakuah depending on your options, like if you got other

979
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 3: really freaking good wide receivers, like I'm Marvin Harrison Junior

980
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 3: playing him over Puka maybe this week, Like didn't think

981
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 3: we're I was gonna be there. I mean I had

982
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 3: Puka is my way to see her five before this

983
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 3: news came out. So I love him in this matchup,

984
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 3: but crap man, like what how how good is his health?

985
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 2: And how much does he play?

986
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 3: And in just a note, supposedly, unless I read the

987
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 3: reports wrong, this is the same knee that he missed

988
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 3: time because of that's not even it's not even like,

989
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 3: oh it's a different leg. So yeah, I'm super concerned.

990
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 1: Fits how are you approaching this game given the question marks?

991
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: And also do you think Puka's gonna play or not?

992
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 4: I think as we record this on Friday morning that

993
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 4: the Friday practice report will tell the tale. I think

994
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 4: if Puka practices Friday, he plays. If he does and

995
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 4: he's not gonna play, I kind of feel how that's

996
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 4: gonna be. And regardless of the size of my league.

997
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 4: I'd play Puka if he does practice on Friday and

998
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 4: is you know, cleared to go for Sunday. Yeah, I

999
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 4: mean I would be a little worried about it, Like

1000
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 4: you have to fear that this is starting to become

1001
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 4: maybe a chronic issue for Puka. And it's sad because,

1002
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 4: like how enthusiastic were the Puka investors when he came

1003
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 4: back and had the game he had against the Vikings.

1004
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 4: And I don't know about you guys, but I watched

1005
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 4: that game and I thought, I have to rank him

1006
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 4: ahead of a Cup every week, Like he just looks

1007
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 4: so dominant right now, Like I have to rank him

1008
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 4: ahead of Cup, even though I still kind of like

1009
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 4: Cup if he's healthy. So but I do think, you know,

1010
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 4: Cup obviously a play either way, and his target out

1011
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 4: look greatly enhanced if Puka sits. But I would still

1012
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 4: play Puka if he does indeed suit up for this game.

1013
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 4: But yeah, this is concerning long term, especially for the

1014
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 4: Puka Dynasty investors, because you know, he had injury problems

1015
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 4: in college. Now they're rolling over to the NFL, and

1016
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 4: it's a shame because when this guy is right physically,

1017
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 4: he is a top ten borderline top five receiver.

1018
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 3: Pat Patter, you are you bumping Cup up in the

1019
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 3: ranks with the Puka news at all?

1020
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:16,439
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1021
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 4: I mean I'll probably have him like where you have him?

1022
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 4: What wide receiver seven or wide receiver eight?

1023
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 1: If?

1024
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got him at wide receiver nine right now.

1025
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 3: But I'm kind of like I'm making the conversation inside

1026
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 3: my head right now to bump him to wide receiver seven.

1027
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: Say two kind of follow questions one, just quickly, where

1028
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,479
Speaker 1: are you guys ranking Stafford with this news?

1029
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 2: It bumps him down. It bumps him down.

1030
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's the thing, of course, I bet an

1031
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 4: over on Stafford passing yardage right before we got the

1032
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 4: Puka news. So right now I've got Stafford QB eleven,

1033
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 4: and if Puka doesn't play, I'll probably haven't done at

1034
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 4: like fourteen or fifteen.

1035
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,240
Speaker 3: I mean, I've got him at QB eight. I'm dropping

1036
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 3: him right now to probably the QB ten right now.

1037
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 3: I do think the other the other fallout of this

1038
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 3: that we haven't talked about. I already had him at

1039
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:07,399
Speaker 3: this ranking, but Kyraen Williams should be ranked RB one

1040
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,280
Speaker 3: overall this week like he is going to get used

1041
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 3: a ton. This is a top three, top five matchup. Like,

1042
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 3: I think the biggest fallout for people is like I

1043
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 3: think Kyron is gonna smash in this game. Like he

1044
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 3: was already set for a really good game. Now you're

1045
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 3: telling me Puka might be limited maybe out It's not

1046
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 3: just a cup stuff Like I think Kyron is gonna crush.

1047
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: The last thing I was gonna ask the rope before

1048
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: I move out this game, do you recall was it

1049
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: knee injuries? And I know Puka had a lot of

1050
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: injury stuff college is one of the reasons he felt

1051
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: Was it his knee or was it other it was.

1052
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 3: It was a lot of soft tissue stuff. I think

1053
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 3: I think he did have some knee stuff in there,

1054
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 3: but it was a lot of different soft tissue stuff.

1055
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 3: Like it just it sucks, man, Like he's he's so

1056
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,280
Speaker 3: freaking talented, man, Like that's just where I'm like, come on, NFL,

1057
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 3: can we just turn off injuries?

1058
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 2: Like has anybody and I meant to tweet this out

1059
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 2: of the day. Have y'all also ever pulled up your leagues.

1060
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 3: Like in the last like two to three weeks and

1061
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 3: just gone to waivers and almost wanted to shit a

1062
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 3: tears seeing Brandon, I you, Chris Godwin, all these different

1063
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 3: guys on waivers, Like I'm scrolling through names and I'm.

1064
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 4: Like, no, you know, yes, it's like watching the Oscars

1065
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,760
Speaker 4: and getting the montage of you know, deceased movie stars

1066
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 4: at the end like that. That's how I feel like

1067
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 4: I'm getting emotional about it. But by the way, deebro

1068
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 4: the bold prediction that Kyen is gonna smash this week,

1069
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,879
Speaker 4: that's like prediction. You know, I know, I'm at Star

1070
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 4: Wars movie is going to gross a lot of money

1071
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 4: or something.

1072
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Speaker 3: I know, I'm out here just tossing that clickbait. You know,

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Speaker 3: Kyen's gonna just run over Seattle or shattering takes.

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Speaker 1: I know clickbait corner from Debro Kyrine should be ranked highly.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Lions at Packers. So just quickly odd

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Speaker 1: Jordan Love the are they playing tool with Fantasypraise dot Com,

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Speaker 1: of predictive tool about whether guys are gonna.

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Speaker 4: Play or not.

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Speaker 1: It does give Jordan Love an eighty seven percent chance

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Speaker 1: to play. That's based on some of the practice reporting

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Speaker 1: you know the fact that he went from it did

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Speaker 1: not practice to a limited practice on Thursday. Continue to

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Speaker 1: keep an eye on that. It is not a sure

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Speaker 1: thing that he's gonna play, but our tool does like

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Speaker 1: the possibility that he does. So the way I kind

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Speaker 1: of phrase his question was if he does play versus

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Speaker 1: if he doesn't. If Jordan Love does play, is there

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Speaker 1: anybody in this matchup that we don't love? I mean

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Speaker 1: even Sam la Porter, who's been in disappointment this season,

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Speaker 1: it's coming off his best week of the year. And

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Speaker 1: then on the flip side, if Love doesn't end up playing,

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Speaker 1: how far did the Packers players drop in your rankings?

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Speaker 1: Fits will start with you.

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Speaker 4: So if Love is playing, like Watson and Wix are

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Speaker 4: the guys who are your maybe tough choices probably for

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00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 4: most people like on the outside looking in, But I

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00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 4: think Watson would probably be a little more playable than Wix,

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Speaker 4: at least based on the usage trends for the Packers,

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Speaker 4: but obviously both really sort of risk reward not safety options.

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Speaker 4: So whereas conversely, if Jordan Love is out, I think

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Speaker 4: Josh Shacobs and Jayden Reed are really the only guys

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Speaker 4: you want to play in this offense, like not even

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Speaker 4: Tucker Kraft because in Malik Willis's previous two starts he

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Speaker 4: had fewer than twenty passing attempts both times. So to

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Speaker 4: the Lions, like, yeah, obviously Gibbs in Montgomery and Saint

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Speaker 4: Brown are in your lineup, but I Laporta and Goff

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Speaker 4: are totally dependent on what your roster looks like because

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Speaker 4: those guys are our borderline like back end QB one

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Speaker 4: back end tight end one types, and maybe you have

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Speaker 4: a better option.

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Speaker 1: You don't think we would see if Love is out

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00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: another like thirty carry game from Josh Jacobs though, right,

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Speaker 1: because the Lions are too good to do that again.

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Speaker 2: You know, it seems like you can do that against them.

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Speaker 4: Well, they have a good run defense or have had.

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00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 4: Maybe it hasn't been as lights out as it was.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna score so much like you can't keep up

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Speaker 1: with them. It feels like that.

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Speaker 4: So I do feel like Matt Lafleur is somewhat cognizant

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Speaker 4: of not trying to run Josh Shacobs into the ground

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Speaker 4: like the first time when Love sustained the injury in Brazil.

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Speaker 4: The next week against the Titans, like we saw some

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Speaker 4: ridiculous number of carries from Jacobs, like twenty eight or whatever,

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Speaker 4: and I was kind of exc I think it was

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Speaker 4: over thirty. I think it was like maybe it was thirty.

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Speaker 4: Then in week three I was kind of expecting the

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Speaker 4: same thing, and he had under twenty, and they like

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Speaker 4: mixed in more Emmanuel Wilson, I think. And now they've

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Speaker 4: got Chris Brooks too, who is running well in just

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Speaker 4: a horse. That dude's like two hundred and thirty five pounds.

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Speaker 4: So maybe it's kind of an ensemble effort. But with

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Speaker 4: Jacob's leading the way, I just I don't think that

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Speaker 4: Lafleur really wants to like consistently be giving Jacobs twenty

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Speaker 4: five plus carries.

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Speaker 1: Debra, how are you looking at this game if Love

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Speaker 1: plays versus if he doesn't.

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I want to attack this not

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00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 3: only from the a are they playing tool, because I

1140
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 3: think that that is a fantastic tool, especially given insight

1141
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:49,919
Speaker 3: to people that you know, what am I doing?

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Speaker 2: What do I moves?

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00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 3: Do I need to make considering on if players are

1144
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 3: playing or not? But I think the line and the

1145
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 3: betting lines are telling us that Jordan Love plays. If not,

1146
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 3: the total would be lower, and if not, the line

1147
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 3: would be different. So I think it's it's practice reports.

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Speaker 3: I think the other thing in Fitzy and I were

1149
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 3: talking about this before we turn the mics on the

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Speaker 3: fact that the Packers had Jordan Love out there yesterday

1151
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,919
Speaker 3: would have looked like from all every video I saw

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00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 3: that it was raining at practice. So you don't want

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00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 3: Jordan Love if you're that worried about his growing slipping

1154
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 3: and sliding around on a wet practice field. So as

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00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 3: well as it's supposed to rain during this game, so

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00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 3: some of this could be okay. Can you prove to

1157
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 3: us that you can move around in less than ideal conditions.

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00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 3: So I do think Jordan Love is going to play.

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00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 3: I agree with Fitzi's earlier assessment about this being a

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00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 3: divisional game, and the Packers are like, look, we got

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00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 3: any shot at the freaking division. We need to win

1162
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 3: this game, and that is I mean, the only chance

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00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 3: they have to do that is with Jordan Love. I

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00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 3: don't think they could do that in previous weeks what

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00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 3: they've done with Malik Willis and going run heavy and

1166
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 3: things like that, And so I do think Love plays.

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Speaker 2: I think this is a huge.

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Speaker 3: Game for Jaden Reid and Romeo Dobbs. Detroit has been

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00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 3: rushed by the slot. But as far as the guys

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Speaker 3: you don't want to play, and this is assuming Love plays,

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Speaker 3: I'm not playing Christian Watson. He has not been utilized

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Speaker 3: hardly at all versus single high, and I think that's

1173
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 3: what they're going to see a ton of Detroit last year.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they're already utilizing it on over sixty percent

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Speaker 3: of their snaps this season. But even last year, in

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Speaker 3: the two meetings that the Packers had against the Lions,

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Speaker 3: almost sixty percent of the defensive snaps were single high

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Speaker 3: Christian Watson versus single high. This year, he's got an

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Speaker 3: eighteen percent target per route run rate one point four

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Speaker 3: yards per route run and Tucker Craft, Yeah, like if

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Speaker 3: Jordan Love plays, he's a low end tight end one.

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Speaker 3: If Jordan Love were to happen to miss this game,

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Speaker 3: I'm with FITZI I would sit him. It's also just

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Speaker 3: a growth. It's a horrible matchup for him. Detroit has

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Speaker 3: been legit against tight ends, second fuset receiving yards and

1186
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 3: fantasy points allowed at the position, So I think it's

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be a tough game for him, and I

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00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:56,240
Speaker 3: think this is gonna be a good game for Sam Laporta.

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Speaker 3: Packers have been bad versus tight ends, so his route

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Speaker 3: share and his targets go up in another game without

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Speaker 3: Jameson Williams.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Colts at Vikings. Before we get to

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Speaker 1: the key question for Sunday Night's matchup, I want to

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Speaker 1: ask you guys about your Uber Eats Sunday Night Meals

1195
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: of the Week debro. What must order food gets you

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00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: reaching for your Uber Eats app for great game day

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Speaker 1: deals when you think of Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know this was a Minnesota food, but I'm

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Speaker 2: so happy to talk about it.

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Speaker 3: I love Swedish meatballs, dude, Like it's that is probably

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00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,720
Speaker 3: in the top fifteen of foods for me just in general.

1202
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 3: So you're telling me, I'm going to a place where

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00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 3: it's done well, must it's a must.

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Speaker 1: Have fits how about you?

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Speaker 4: For me, it's the uh, It's got to be the

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00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 4: juicy lucy. So this is a famous kind of cheeseburger

1207
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 4: where they bake the cheese or fry the cheese. I

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00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 4: guess right inside the burger. Just gotta be careful if

1209
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 4: you're getting that fresh off the grid. All that stuff

1210
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,280
Speaker 4: can be like malten lava, and it is very easy

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00:56:58,400 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 4: to burn the inside of your mouth.

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Speaker 2: So like a Hamburger hot pocket sounds glorious.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: I some of my best friends growing up, they're you know,

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00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: families from Minnesota, and so every once in a while

1217
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: when I would go over, we would have a juicy,

1218
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: lucy uh extremely extremely delicious. So I fully endorse that

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00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: pick from fits I was one of my favorite parts

1220
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: about doing this segment each week is like learning about

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Speaker 1: what cities have which foods because a lot of these

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Speaker 1: cities I just haven't been to or or don't associate

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Speaker 1: them with this food. I did not know that Minnesota

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Speaker 1: is where pizza rolls were invented. And I love a

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Speaker 1: good pizza roll. And I don't know if they're like considered,

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Speaker 1: like they perfected or they're the best, but it's if

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Speaker 1: you look atup, it's where they were invented. Uh, is

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Speaker 1: a pizza rolls. So not that they're the healthiest thing.

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Speaker 1: I can't eat them too much, but if they were healthy,

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Speaker 1: I would eat them every day. Pizza rolls are freaking.

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Speaker 3: Lots of cheese enveloped and other things. That's the that's

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Speaker 3: the thing that I'm getting out of here. Like did

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Speaker 3: they invent hot pockets too?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 1: Well? And then nice thing too is everything we just

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Speaker 1: listed Swedish meatballs and juice Lucy's and Pizza's. They're all

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Speaker 1: great for watching football. Those are all great football snacking foods. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I would be super on board with the whole

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Speaker 1: meal of just those two I'll put together. Honestly, it

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Speaker 1: sounds pretty delicious. There you have it, our Uber Eats

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Speaker 1: Sunday Night Meals of the week again. We got the

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Speaker 1: Juicy Lucy for fits. We've got Swedish meatballs for Debro.

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Speaker 1: We got pizza rolls for myself. Uber Eats has the

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Speaker 1: best game day deals all season long, order now for

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Speaker 1: game day. The other one I was considering I didn't

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Speaker 1: pick was bunt cake, which.

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Speaker 2: Is very cakes. I looked at it too. Yeah, I'll

1248
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 2: look at it too. Man, we have a nothing bunt

1249
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Speaker 2: cake place near my house. I can't say that.

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Speaker 3: I don't, you know, gain five to ten pounds during

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Speaker 3: the NFL season because of it.

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Speaker 1: I believe it. I would do the same. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's get into this game. Joe Flacco is starting against

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Speaker 1: the Vikings this week. How do we like Flacco and

1255
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: the Colts pass catchers going up against this ferocious Vikings

1256
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Speaker 1: pass rush debro.

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Speaker 3: I mean, i'm, i'm, I think Flacco is gonna throw

1258
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 3: the ball a lot in this game. So I think

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00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 3: for the volume, you know, okay, fire him up as

1260
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 3: a QB two in super flex leagues. As far as

1261
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 3: his efficiency and stuff, I'm very worried about it. We

1262
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 3: know that Flores is gonna blitz thee every living crap

1263
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Speaker 3: out of him. They lead the NFL and blitz rate

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Speaker 3: amongst thirty five thirty six qualifying quarterbacks, Joe Flacco twenty

1265
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 3: ninth and passing grade thirty fifth, almost dead last in

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Speaker 3: yards per attemph versus the blitz.

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Speaker 2: So that's not good.

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Speaker 3: Michael Pittman, I am gonna definitely have him low this week.

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Speaker 3: I think this is a Josh Downs week, and I

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00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 3: know again or shattering takes. I know Josh Downs has

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00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 3: been really good, I know crazy, but Minnesota has struggled

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Speaker 3: against slot wide receivers. They're allowed in the third most

1273
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Speaker 3: fantasy points per game, six most receiving yards per game

1274
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Speaker 3: to opposing slot wide receivers, so I think it's probably

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Speaker 3: more of a down game for Pittman. But fire up

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Speaker 3: Josh Downs, Man, I'm gonna have him comfortably as a

1277
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Speaker 3: top twenty four guy this week.

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Speaker 1: I know you're being sarcastic about uh your shattering take.

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01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 1: Fitz actually does not agree with you, based on our

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Speaker 1: conversation yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just well Downs in the inside the top twenty

1282
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Speaker 4: at wide receiver in ECR. And I'm just I'm not

1283
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Speaker 4: there on Josh Downs. Like everyone seems too ready to

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Speaker 4: anoint him as a superstar. And we kind of got

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01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 4: the same treatment with like Wandel Robinson earlier this season,

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01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 4: and I was a little skeptical about that. But like,

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01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 4: and I do like Josh Downs. I have him on

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01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 4: some Dynasty teams. I'm like exciting he's getting used more

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01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 4: smooth mover, sure handed, you know, some real elusiveness. But like,

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Speaker 4: I'm just not ready to grant superstar status to a

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01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 4: guy who just had a second one hundred yard game

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01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 4: of his career last week and who has five touchdowns

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01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 4: in twenty three career games. Like, so let's let's see

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01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 4: a little more. And like you, Debro, I hate this

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01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 4: matchup for the cults passing game. US Bank Stadium is

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01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 4: a tough place to play Man and Brian Flores, like,

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Speaker 4: you know, so the Vikings are going to be spitting

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01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 4: fire after losing two straights. They're gonna blitz Flacco like crazy,

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Speaker 4: and he's not the most mobile guy. We know that

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01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 4: the DraftKings odds on an interception for Joe Flacco minus

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01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 4: one forty five, and I might have put one of

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01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 4: my children's college funds on that. The over the over

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01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 4: half an interception on Joe Flacco minus one forty five.

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01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 4: So yes, I've pretty aggressively bet that one. So yeah,

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01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 4: I mean, I think the Vikings are going to smoke

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01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 4: the Colts this week. And though I do have Downs

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01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 4: ranked inside starter range, like, I'm not wildly excited about him,

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01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 4: and I'm not wildly excited about Pittman either, But I'm

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01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 4: also not totally sure that Downs is the better play

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01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 4: than Pittman. And I know Pittman might not be one

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01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 4: hundred percent with this back issue he's been having, but

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01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 4: like on a week to week basis, I'm not one

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Speaker 4: hundred percent sure that I'm going to be ranking Downs

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01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 4: over Pittman every week. And maybe, as Debro has pointed out,

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Speaker 4: this is a matchup that favors the slot receiver. But

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01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 4: like people are making kind of a leap of faith

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01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 4: with Josh Downes that I'm not ready to make yet.

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01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 4: And maybe I'll be, you know, put in my place

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01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 4: if he has one hundred and fifty yard game with

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01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 4: two touchdowns this week. But until we get there, I'm

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01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 4: not there.

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Speaker 2: I want to mention one more thing on Josh Downs.

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01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 3: Could he have been the guy we didn't talk enough

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01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 3: about the entire offseason because we talk about all the

1325
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 3: time investing in talented second year wide receivers that flash

1326
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 3: in their rookie season. Could he be the guy that

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01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 3: we didn't talk enough during the off season about that

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01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 3: correlation with right now full season pace for Josh Downs

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01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty three targets, ninety one receptions, almost

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01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 3: one thousand receiving yards, and eight touchdowns. That's the pace

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01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 3: he's on right now.

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01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 1: Wide receiver nineteen in ECR this week. By the way,

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01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 1: just quickly before we get off this game, Deebro, do

1334
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 1: you think Flaka gives him the better chance to win

1335
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 1: this week? And I think going forward you can make

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01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 1: the argument. Certainly, yes, Flacos played well this year, but

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01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 1: in this particular batchup like I think both quarterbacks would

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01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 1: struggle against the viki's defense, truthfully, but I just so

1339
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 1: worry about a statue like Joe and I love Joe

1340
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 1: Flacco obviously, but I just a statue going up against

1341
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 1: his pass rush terrifies me.

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01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 3: I think both these quarterbacks were struggling in this matchup,

1343
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 3: whether it's a rich or Joe Flacco.

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01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 2: I think I've been.

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01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 3: Extremely on the other side as far as a lot

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01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 3: of consensus, which I saw a lot of people kind

1347
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 3: of pandering and reversing those takes. The more news we

1348
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 3: got that came out about the Colts, I think I'm sorry,

1349
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 3: I just I don't agree with playing Joe Flacco. I

1350
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 3: don't care if you make the wild card. I think that,

1351
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 3: like I understand the locker room and all this kind

1352
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 3: of stuff. How much are they worried about the locker

1353
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 3: room for everybody that's that's you know, caping up for

1354
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 3: all the locker room narratives. Yeah, because the coach cares

1355
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 3: a lot about the locker room that he didn't even

1356
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 3: talk to or didn't even discuss anything with his players.

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01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 3: They found out through social media that their quarterback was

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01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 3: getting benched. So yeah, your locker room. But anyway, I

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01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 3: don't agree with him benching Anthony Richardson for the outlook

1360
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 3: of this franchise.

1361
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 2: But I think I agree that. I think both quarterbacks

1362
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 2: have struggle here.

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01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 1: So let's go to the last game of the week

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01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 1: Buccaneers at Chiefs fits. Kate Otten is tight end six

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01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 1: in ECR half PPR rankings this week.

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01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 4: Is that too high, too low?

1367
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 1: Or just right? Coming off of two weeks where he

1368
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 1: could bind four twenty targets, seventeen catches, one hundred and

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01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 1: eighty one yards and two touchdowns.

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01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, just right. I have him at te six behind

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01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 4: Travis Kelcey Brockbowers, David Njoku, Trey McBride, and Evan Ingram.

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Speaker 1: H Debra.

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01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 3: I've got him at tight end five behind Kelsey, Bauers,

1374
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 3: McBride and Ingram. Dude, Kate Otten's been so freaking good,

1375
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 3: and I think, again we talked about last week, he

1376
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 3: should be a high end flex like you should be

1377
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 3: playing him as basically a wide receiver three in your

1378
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 3: lineups like last week, twenty percent targets here, thirty percent

1379
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 3: first reach here, that's that's alpha level first read target

1380
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 3: chare like, plus you you married that with the matchup.

1381
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 3: Kansas City is one of the best matchups on the

1382
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 3: board for tight ends. Second most receiving yards, third most

1383
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 3: Fantasy points per game. The last little nugget, and this,

1384
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 3: this is eye popping, Like I'm gonna tweet this out.

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01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 3: Since Week four, Kate Otten has averaged fifteen Fantasy points

1386
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 3: per game. And to put that in perspective for people

1387
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 3: the entirety of the season, that's equal with Brock Bowers.

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01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,959
Speaker 3: That is equal with Terry McLaurin for the entire season.

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01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 1: Uh well, you guys kind of answered it by telling

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01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 1: me who was ranked ahead of him. But I was

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01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:43,439
Speaker 1: going to ask, like Kate Otten versus Kyle Pitts, because

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01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 1: it's two tight ends that we like. It sounds like

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01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 1: you both have hot in the head.

1394
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 2: Hot in the head. Yeah, but I would be I

1395
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 2: would be flexing pits.

1396
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 1: This week, I think the season. Would you rather have

1397
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 1: Pits ahead of at and rest of the season.

1398
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 4: I'd rather have Pits because Mike Evans at some point.

1399
01:05:58,320 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'd rather have Pits.

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01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 3: To just again, this is this goes back to not

1401
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 3: just a volume but a talent perspective. I think for

1402
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 3: all talent, I don't think anybody's gonna make the case

1403
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 3: for Kad Ott and over Kyle Pitts and roll talent volume.

1404
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 1: You would think Aten will still be because he'll be

1405
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 1: the number two target even once Mike Evans comes back,

1406
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 1: I meant coming back, and Pitts is still gonna be

1407
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 1: somewhere like two three four, I mean depending on the game.

1408
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 1: So but yeah, obviously talent is is.

1409
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 4: He's sort of he's sort of Tampa's answer to Jake Ferguson,

1410
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 4: a guy who's not like wild talented, but just get

1411
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 4: this elevated role. He's a very capable pass catcher, you know,

1412
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 4: playing in an offense that really needs him to step

1413
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 4: up and play a big role.

1414
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 3: That's a damn good call twenty twenty four k Ott

1415
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 3: and his twenty twenty three Jake Ferguson mount then and

1416
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 3: they'll god hang that in the loof fancy.

1417
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 2: That's a wonderful call.

1418
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 1: By the way, in our in our dynasty league that

1419
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 1: the three of us are in, I have Bowers, Pits

1420
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 1: and Kate Otten. So if one of you guys is

1421
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 1: going to get trade for a tight end, please Trey Benson.

1422
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 3: Trey Benson for Kyle Pits, let's do it. I'm still

1423
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 3: waiting on the offer one. I'm talking about it, but

1424
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 3: my bars don't gather us there. Best of lucky in

1425
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 3: your Week nine matchups, everybody.

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01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 1: I hope everybody had a good Halloween and is excited

1427
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 1: for this, you know, November December. That's real football. So

1428
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 1: excited to get to this time of year and getting

1429
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 1: closer and closer to the fantasy playoffs. Four fits and Debro.

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01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 1: I'm Ryan warmly thank you everybody for tuning in and

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01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 1: we'll see again next time.

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Speaker 2: Stuffing and cuffing season, Let's go.

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