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Speaker 1: Welcome to episode number one thirty eight of the Minnesota

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Speaker 1: Vikings Podcast. My name is Gabe Henderson Philly in for

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Speaker 1: Tatum Everett, alongside producer Jay Nelson and our guest of

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Speaker 1: the day, the evening, the night, whatever time of day

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Speaker 1: you're listening to this, you probably hear him every morning

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Speaker 1: on KAFA N nine at noon. A really good friend

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Speaker 1: of my personal best friendstans. I've moved here to Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about Voice of the Vikings, Paul Alan Pa.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing, Gabe, Jay, what's going on? Thanks

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Speaker 1: for having me? Absolutely well. It's been I feel like

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Speaker 1: Besides Jay, Hey, I was in Vegas for nine days,

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Speaker 1: so sure there was plenty of time out there. UFC. Yes,

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Speaker 1: first week of March. Take it from me. Supplemental income

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Speaker 1: is not a bad thing somebody who's balanced three jobs

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Speaker 1: for nearly thirty years. Just if anything, to get your

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Speaker 1: and think about other things beautiful. Well, that's part of

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Speaker 1: the reason why I did it, too, was career development,

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Speaker 1: Either either you potentially had a really good week or

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Speaker 1: on to the exciting news here in Minnesota. Patrick Peterson

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Speaker 1: I'm fond of Patrick, even though I didn't chat a

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Speaker 1: guy has a better arm than anybody on our team

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Speaker 1: throwing oh my god, and how many of the wide

428
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Speaker 1: receivers were raising their hands. And I'm willing to jump

429
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Speaker 1: in at quarterback if you need me. I think Michael

430
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,679
Speaker 1: Jenkins was trying to sneak him a uniform to play.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, let's move on to these fan questions.

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Speaker 1: We talked about it in Pick six earlier this week.

433
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Speaker 1: We have every time we do pick six, we ask

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Speaker 1: fans to submit questions to Tatum with myself, that's at

435
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Speaker 1: Tatum Everett or at Gabe Henderson or at Pao on

436
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Speaker 1: the mic. I know Jay doesn't want to give his

437
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 1: Twitter hand bits out there. Okay, I'm good big Jay Twitter.

438
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so you're like Spielman used to be. You

439
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:33,200
Speaker 1: got one of those secret twitters, just like yeah, burner account.

440
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 1: You and Kad ripping on Gabe and I I don't

441
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Speaker 1: even know what you comments. Now. The best part it's

442
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,360
Speaker 1: going to be the two of you cycling through trying

443
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Speaker 1: to figure out which one it is. I'm like, I'm

444
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Speaker 1: looking through one going hey, way to botch the Greg

445
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 1: Joseph call you freaking clown and I'm like, damn, Kad

446
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 1: knows me. Weird. All right, Let's get to these fan questions.

447
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Speaker 1: Every time we do Pick six, we always have questions

448
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Speaker 1: that don't make the show, and it is always a

449
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Speaker 1: pleasure to actually put them in this show because this

450
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Speaker 1: first and foremost cross promotion people. Let's listening to MVP

451
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Speaker 1: watch Pick six and vice versus so PA. First question,

452
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Speaker 1: it's coming from Madden sim Live. His question is what

453
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Speaker 1: are the chances the Vikings go for offensive weapons seconds

454
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Speaker 1: to the fourth rounders and what would be good picks.

455
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Speaker 1: Wide receivers look awesome this year. I love for a

456
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Speaker 1: team to find a stud to work with and under

457
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 1: all pro players like Delon and JJ. You just talk.

458
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Speaker 1: You just talked about this not long ago. I'm a

459
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Speaker 1: fan of wide receiver at twelve. I'm not going to

460
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Speaker 1: bang my proverbial hand on this table because I don't

461
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Speaker 1: know enough about it. But don't forget your head coach

462
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 1: is offense, and they're going to be two or three

463
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 1: very good receivers available at twelve. And if you want

464
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Speaker 1: to go four wide, put Kirk on short drops so

465
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 1: he doesn't hold the ball too long, and find players

466
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Speaker 1: crossing and attacking the middle zone. You'll probably need another

467
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Speaker 1: high end receiver. So there's that I want them to

468
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 1: draft a quarterback. I want them somehow, some way to

469
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Speaker 1: hit on a quarterback who can compete and then eventually

470
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 1: maybe help the team and specifically the ownership group take

471
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,679
Speaker 1: that sledgehammer out of Kirk's hand. I love Kirk, and

472
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 1: I love his faith, and I love his father Don,

473
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Speaker 1: And there are a lot of great things about Kirk

474
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 1: that I can the praises I could sing, and he's

475
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,400
Speaker 1: a very good quarterback too. But it's you just need

476
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 1: more flexibility there than we have. Offensive line need two

477
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 1: of them. One needs to play tight end. I think

478
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Speaker 1: we're good. I'm good at running back, Yeah, that's pretty

479
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,360
Speaker 1: much it. But what receiver at twelve man? I'm cool.

480
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Speaker 1: Primary example of that, too is a Kansas City Chiefs

481
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Speaker 1: think about year after year after year they bring out

482
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Speaker 1: these speedsters and put them out there, and they're at

483
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Speaker 1: the point now where they get rid of the cheetah

484
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Speaker 1: down to Miami. But in that scenario, they're looking at

485
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Speaker 1: it saying, we still have a ton of speed on

486
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Speaker 1: this offense, and a guy like Patrick Mahomes can utilize

487
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Speaker 1: that where if he's got time, he can hit the

488
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Speaker 1: deep throw. If he doesn't, he can hit the cross

489
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Speaker 1: And how many times do you see guys like Kelsey

490
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Speaker 1: running off a screen or vice versa setting a screen

491
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Speaker 1: in order to get those speedsters out in open field? Yeah, yeah,

492
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Speaker 1: there there. I mean there's a lot of receivers that

493
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 1: you can find in the second and third round also,

494
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Speaker 1: And I think that kind of answers their question a

495
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Speaker 1: little bit, what you guys said. And then just you know,

496
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Speaker 1: the treylon Bergs of the worlds or the George Pickens

497
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Speaker 1: from University of Georgia, David Bell, I mean a sub

498
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Speaker 1: four four guy. There's a lot of speed in the

499
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Speaker 1: later rounds of the draft, and what you get both

500
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Speaker 1: of you guys are just saying, it's like, okay, yeah,

501
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Speaker 1: if the receiver is not there at twelve, then we

502
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Speaker 1: don't have to force it. But if he is and

503
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Speaker 1: it's the best player available, yeah, we have made moves.

504
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 1: Like Jay said earlier, we have made moves to put

505
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Speaker 1: us in the situation to eventually go after the best

506
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Speaker 1: player available instead of showing our hand too soon. Well,

507
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Speaker 1: if armand Watts can't play defensive end in the three

508
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Speaker 1: four and I like his size, and I like his

509
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Speaker 1: country strength, and I love how we improved last year.

510
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Speaker 1: I'm an arm and Watts guy. I have him penciled

511
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Speaker 1: in as a starting defensive end in the three four. Now,

512
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 1: remember we got to change our minds, man, because defensive

513
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: ends in three four are dramatically different than four to three.

514
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: You gotta be thicker, you gotta be stronger up top.

515
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Speaker 1: You need to hold the point of attack to keep

516
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Speaker 1: those bodies off under size linebackers. But if Watts doesn't start,

517
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Speaker 1: and I don't know who's starting at the other defensive

518
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: end in a three four, we're stock And that means

519
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 1: twelve strongly needs to be considered a three four defensive end.

520
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: I don't know who it would be, but the names

521
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: that I rattled off from back in the day, Aaron Smith,

522
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: Justin Smith, some of the guys. The Packers had Ryan

523
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Speaker 1: pick it to a certain extent. You know when they're

524
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Speaker 1: when they're running their three four the Bears, and you

525
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Speaker 1: know when they a Keem Hicks, I mean a Keem

526
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Speaker 1: Hicks with Eddie Goldman playing the nose, A young a

527
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Speaker 1: Keen Hicks. I mean that's the bomb at defensive end.

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Speaker 1: All right, Question number two, it's coming from garm underscore

529
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Speaker 1: A one? Is it possible, we trade up for it.

530
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Speaker 1: Cal Hamilton's Safety, University of Notre Dame. I would bet

531
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Speaker 1: no trade up twelve, like into the top ten, yeah, well,

532
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Speaker 1: top five yeah, top five? Right the last So was

533
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Speaker 1: it Jamal Adams the last one to be drafted like

534
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Speaker 1: that high? I think third? Yeah, and jam All, I

535
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 1: mean okay, he's okay, It's not in hit Man's class

536
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: whoever has been. I am not in favor of trading

537
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: up for a safety, specifically when you got hit Man

538
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: and you're paying him and you got buying them by faith,

539
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,479
Speaker 1: I think buying them will be okay, But I ensure

540
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: Jan and Sullivan can play safety, and the Green Bay

541
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Speaker 1: Packers and Joe Barry they really really creatively with Russell

542
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 1: Douglas and the way they use their corners and their safeties.

543
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 1: The three four permits you the opportunity to get weird

544
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: on the back end and use corners at safety or

545
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Speaker 1: three safeties. So buying them Hitman and Sullivan, but trading

546
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: up for a safety, I'm out. I'm with you on that.

547
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 1: I think there will be a lot of opportunities to

548
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 1: get a safety later on in the draft. So why

549
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 1: spend unnecessary money where you're not going to get much

550
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 1: value for your pick when you have two safeties or

551
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: at least one can Buying them is counte penciledan right now.

552
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: But if you have two safeties, bike there there's no

553
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 1: need to to go and to chase one teams or

554
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 1: sides of the ball that are layered specifically defense defensive

555
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: line linebackers than corners, and then behind them safeties. So

556
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: it's I mean, that is an unbelievable commitment for players

557
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: who do not impact every play. You can scheme a

558
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: safety out of a play easier than anybody else on

559
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: the field. So now all of a sudden, I got

560
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: this new age Honey Badger or new age hit Man,

561
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 1: And like in the twenty seventeen NFC title game at Philadelphia,

562
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: they schemed hit Man out of the game, And so

563
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: I mean, what do you do? So that's a big no.

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00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: That's the thing for me. If you're moving into the

565
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: top ten, I just kind of feel like the draft

566
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: capital you have to get to get to that point.

567
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: YEA makes me feel like this has to be a

568
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: franchise altering player and for someone like him to come in,

569
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: like you guys just cited the fact that Harrison is

570
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 1: here at least for a few more years. He's getting

571
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: paid like you is buying him. Like you said, it

572
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 1: feels like there's something there, like he's can stick long term.

573
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: I just feel like you're giving up a lot in

574
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: order to move up those positions to get a guy.

575
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 1: Like you said, I can potentially be schemed out of

576
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,360
Speaker 1: a play if the Vikings did something like that, that

577
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: means one of two things. They're moving cam bin them

578
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 1: to Nickel, or they're moving cam By to cam buy

579
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 1: them back to corner where he played in college. Yeah,

580
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 1: and that's that's very tough to do, very tough to do.

581
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: Understanding that he just learned a brand new position in

582
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: the league, playing safety and now he has to relearn

583
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: how to play corner. That that's that's saying a lot.

584
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 1: It's probably easier to play to move from corner to

585
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 1: safety and the safety to corner. But man, that that

586
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: is altering, a altering move. Your your guy, Malik wellis ye,

587
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: your friend, Malik wellis liberty, liberty, Liberty, libertys to an advertisement,

588
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: I get five percent um. Where do you think he's

589
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: going to be drafted? Not what you read? I want

590
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: your football loving heart. Now I think he would be

591
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: drafted to do Yeah Carolina Panthers. Okay, well, as long

592
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: as he's lungs is not Detroit or Washington, I'm okay.

593
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: Well see, But here's the deal is, if he's there

594
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: at twelve, there is a bevy of teams who are

595
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: gonna want to come and get him or the guy

596
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: with the small hands, and to be able to do

597
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: that and move back and get a first rounder next

598
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: year and potentially be involved in that quarterback draft when

599
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: your quarterback now is now a year older, thirty some

600
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: odd million dollars off off the books again. So that's

601
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: I cast my gaze that way. At twelve, if one

602
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: of those quarterbacks I like, well is better than small

603
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: hands guy. But nevertheless, Pittsburgh, I'm telling you might come up.

604
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: They might come up and get him. He fits in Pittsburgh.

605
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: So you're saying, if Malik is at twelve, trade it

606
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh because you can get you. Again, everything's new.

607
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: We don't know what to expect from from Quacy and

608
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: the rest of the gang, so we don't know what

609
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: they're simmering on or what they love. Now they got

610
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: to be right, but it's counter culture and antithetical to

611
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: any thing we've known over the last decade and a half.

612
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: I mean, this old dog right here is being taught

613
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: a new trick and I love it. So where were

614
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: that compared to the Aaron Rodgers Packers trading up for

615
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: Jordan Love versus signing a receiver if we signed a

616
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: quarterback with the twelfth overall pick. To answer, no, wa

617
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: ain't doing that? Okay, No, I'm saying no, the Vikings

618
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: I would be flabbergasted if they took a quarterback at

619
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Speaker 1: twelve yea. In fact, I'm willing to say it ain't

620
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Not speaking for the team, I'm saying, if

621
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: somebody wants that quarterback spot, let them come up, you

622
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: go back, you get another pick for next year. Now

623
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: you got two first next year. Where from what I understand,

624
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: there are three maybe four quarterbacks coming into the draft

625
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, and you know more about college football

626
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: than I'll ever know. But the Gators guy and whomever

627
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: right like in, I mean, even if you've got to

628
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: be like a rog and sit three years behind eight,

629
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: I'm cool with that too. Personally, I look at it

630
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: and say, if you are thinking that Willis is going

631
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: to get out of pick eleven. You're crazy, in my opinion,

632
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: because you've got the Giants who have to figure out

633
00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do with Daniel Jones, if they want

634
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: him long term or not. Giants have picks number five

635
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: and seven. Carolinas at six. The Falcons just got rid

636
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: of Matt Ryan, so he's at They're at eight, and

637
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: then Seattle's at nine. And Willis just reminds me of

638
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: a Russell Wilson type, which is what they liked for

639
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: their offense. Doesn't see it just quickly mark my words,

640
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: and yeah, I'm trying to knock Malik. Well fine, I'm

641
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: just remember being at the combine and knowing people I

642
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: know not here, and I talked to two teams that

643
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: had just met with Malik and they're like, yes, yes, yes,

644
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: it doesn't just snaps. He's very nonchalant and he's one

645
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: of those guys where he's a processor. Yeah, so it

646
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: doesn't happen as quickly for him as it would for

647
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: a guy at Alabama. Not saying that he can't make

648
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: the throws, but it may take a little bit, little

649
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: bit longer. That's why he took so many sacks last year,

650
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: or where I took a little bit longer where he's

651
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: thrown his interceptions. He was a little later down the

652
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: field and it's like, hey, you gotta read this now.

653
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: The ball should be coming out here. But he overthought it.

654
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: He overthinks it, and which ultimately led to some of

655
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: those bad decisions. And I think if if you're a

656
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: team that's looking at a guy like him, you have

657
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: a sample size from last year and a guy like

658
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: Justin Fields who kind of had similar issues where it

659
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: felt like just wasn't happening fast enough, which is why

660
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: he was holding onto the ball too long and he's

661
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: missing his windows. But Gaye we I mean, you do

662
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: stats for me in with road games when I call

663
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: him and you help in the booth here at US

664
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: Bank Stadium that Monday night. Now Chicago's downtrod. Man, they

665
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: ain't going anywhere, And like nineteen guys got bit so

666
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: we got weird, got names running all over the place.

667
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: Justin Fields, man, it's like I was watching him and

668
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: I can see it. I can see the aura. You

669
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: see he has it. But then you watch the game

670
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: back and it's like here, kitty, kitty, He's just like

671
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: looking at one guy the whole time. But again, it's

672
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: okay to concede. I have to learn or it's not

673
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: a busted pick if it's like it didn't work exactly

674
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: perfectly this year, I think I might love Justin Fields.

675
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I think he's gonna be

676
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: one of the most fascinated people to watch in year

677
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: two because normally that sophomore year, teams have an entire

678
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: season's worth of footage to look at and ways to

679
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: neutralize what he likes to do. Yeah, Trubisky was the

680
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: same kind of thing or Trubisky year one. There were

681
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: flashes of things that he just he made our life

682
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: miserable in a couple of games at times, but there

683
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: were still a lot of things that people had issues with.

684
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: Now he's going into that sophomore year and you're just

685
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: sitting there saying, does he figure it out how to

686
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: neutralize that stuff? Yeah? Or do they put the clamps

687
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: down even harder on a guy like that who struggled

688
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: at certain things and they say that's all we're gonna

689
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: let you do. Man, there's so many things to talk

690
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: about because now you triggered me on Green Bay and

691
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: I'm like Preston Smith, good player. You remember him from

692
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: Washington when you work there with the Wren the Entertainment Network.

693
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: But Preston has not been as potent without Zadarius. And

694
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: go ahead and look back at the games and look

695
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: back at the numbers and this whole DeVante thing and

696
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: like Aaron knew it was coming, and he still took

697
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: the money. And DeVante, I mean he couldn't. DeVante could

698
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: not have gotten out there any more quickly than he did.

699
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: So this division is super winnable. It is a super

700
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: winnable division. And the Motor City kid, he's the Lions.

701
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: They're gonna jump up this year. They are They're gonna

702
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: like jump up to like seven or eight wins, mark

703
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: my words. Moving on to another guy going into a

704
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: sophomore year. This question is by saying by Steve. His

705
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: his user name is Natcho average Handle. His question is

706
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: over under on King Knae's return kickoffs taken to the

707
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: house this year one and a half way over under? Yeah, yeah,

708
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 1: one and a half? Which way? Which excuse me? Which

709
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 1: way would you metaphorically think about playing over over over?

710
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: We'll go over like he had. I wanted him to

711
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: impact the backfield, because when when they tried last year

712
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: it didn't look great. It was a natural he. I mean, well,

713
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 1: we would see him practice the training camps like, hey, Madison,

714
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: better bust his butter. This guy might take his money.

715
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: But when we saw it in the games, it's hesitation

716
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: and catch swimming. I mean, I can't say he can't catch.

717
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 1: He didn't Ada was State and he didn't hear last year.

718
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: But he's a guy for me that he is your

719
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: prototypical speed guy. This is the kind of player you

720
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: want to get the ball because, like with having on kickoffs,

721
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: you have a little bit of time to get the

722
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 1: motor going. I think the issue is reading what he's

723
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: seeing in front of him when there's just a ton

724
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: of wash there, and then being able to have a

725
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: situation where he starts to pick it up quicker. It's

726
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: a little bit better you put him back there. At minimum,

727
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 1: teams are going to have to start looking at this

728
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: saying he's a speed guy. We have to have at

729
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 1: least somebody watching him, and once he starts to really

730
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: get going and gashing that that's where it'll force like

731
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 1: linebackers and even some of the speed rushers up front

732
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: to pause for a second to account for him, which

733
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: can give Kirk more time. So I'm hoping that he

734
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: can get utilized more this year, especially as a speed guy.

735
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: When you have speed like that, and Van Jefferson heading

736
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: into his third year with the Rams. All right, now,

737
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: that gator, he's not gonna single handedly win games for you.

738
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 1: Fast as bleep. They came here on a short week

739
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: Tuesday to Sunday O'Connell, the offensive coordinator for the Rams.

740
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: And I've talked to Kevin about this man because I

741
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: went back and counted it before I met him in person,

742
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: and I think they faked the jet the jet sweep

743
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: with Van Jefferson thirteen times and never gave it to

744
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: him once. And it permitted Sony Michelle to weave his

745
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: way in the zone running scheme and Paul Kendricks and

746
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: Harrison Smith out of the equation. It was masterful how

747
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: they did that on a short week. Wong Wu can

748
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: be fake jet guy. Give him the jet, you know.

749
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: So that's that's my comp there. Yeah, there's a lot

750
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: of speed on this Vikings roster. I'm even thinking of

751
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: Aimery Smith Marsett. Also, if you want to use as

752
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,439
Speaker 1: a jet guy that you don't have to say, okay,

753
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: when this guy's in, we gotta alert. We gotta be

754
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: alert for number fifteen because I think if a guy

755
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: in two two at well for the La Rams last year,

756
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 1: he's the reason why we lost to the La Rams

757
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: last year. He had that one pump return sending it

758
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: back to the house, and then he came in for

759
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 1: a few fake reverses, fake jet sweeps, and it's like, oh, well,

760
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: this guy just scored a touchdown on us, so now

761
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: we really have to account for him. So Kevin O'Connell,

762
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's looking his shops right now, just looking

763
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: at all the weapons we have on the offense and

764
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball. So a lot to

765
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: be done between now in September whenever that first weekend

766
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: in September is. But I'm the competition battles are going

767
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: to be in an all time high this offseason. And

768
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: before we get to there, I want to get to

769
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 1: our last question. Last question a guy that's currently on

770
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: the roster. His name is Kenny Willacas, and a question

771
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 1: comes from Noel. I was impressed with Kenny Willacas. He

772
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: had limited playing time but was productive just tenacious. Does

773
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: he have the potential to rotate in as an outside

774
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: linebacker in d N and both at three four and

775
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: four three defense? Yeah, I got I mean yes. I

776
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: liked Willikas when we were at Baltimore, and I mean

777
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: he really jumped out of his skin truly in his

778
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: big time debut. So I like Kenny. He's another year older.

779
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't have his measurables in front

780
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: of me right now. And again, if you're playing a

781
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: three four, think think six four, six five, two ninety

782
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: to three hundred. Okay, in a three four defensive end

783
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: inside linebackers James Harrison players like that. Although James went outside,

784
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 1: think two forty eight, two fifty three, two forty four

785
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: down to that. Kendricks is two thirty and change, you know.

786
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: So Hicks isn't close to that Zadarius Smith is. But

787
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: how much are they going to run the three four again?

788
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: It's fascinating the newness and and the unpredictability coming at

789
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: us with this team. That's fine. I'm so interesting to

790
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: see what Genarius Robinson does. Took a year off, he

791
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: had a knee injury last training camp, and now he's

792
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: gained some more weight, he's got a little bit faster

793
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: and now you mix you know his finesse like he

794
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: was never a power guy. He's never going to bombers

795
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: or quarterback because he's such has a long has such

796
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: a long frame. So when you when you put that

797
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: together with Josh Hinks of the world or Derek Keys,

798
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 1: that's in the weight room getting these guys right. And

799
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 1: he's another guy that's been here all offseason. He hasn't

800
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: went home from January with the last January ninth was

801
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: the last game in season until now when we're recording

802
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: this episode and beginning of April. So um, I'm excited

803
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:16,439
Speaker 1: to see what he can bring it. And I'm also

804
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: excited to see what Patrick Jones is second can do

805
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 1: because he's more of a bull rusher. If you put

806
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: those two guys together, you have a Daniel Hunter or

807
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: you have a Zadarius Smith. So which one of those

808
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: guys takes that next step to solidify Robinson's six five

809
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: to sixty Yeah, sign me up right now. He's perfect

810
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 1: eyes for a three four defensive end. Sign me up

811
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: right now. Him on the same All you gotta do

812
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: is ask him, hey, just contain, like, don't get blown

813
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 1: off the ball right in Zadarius Smith or Daniel Hunter

814
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: will get an easy rush to the quarterback. So he

815
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: has to be both one of them, if not both,

816
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: one of those guys has to make another step in

817
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: their career because you can't depend on three defensive ends

818
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: in this upcoming year's draft. Even though this upcoming year's

819
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: draft it's very deep at the def it's a van

820
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: outside linebacker position. You can't put all your your your

821
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: eggs in one basket to say this guy's going to

822
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 1: be a starter on day one. You got you gotta

823
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 1: make it competitive and and it again comes down to

824
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: how much you run that three four Because if you're

825
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: going to run three four is a base and using

826
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: them first and second down, and then your your nickel

827
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 1: maybe a three three five or some hybrid three four

828
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: with a weird a safety in a weird spot in

829
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: a corner in a weird spot, like Jay said, then

830
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 1: you need thickness at the defensive end spot and inside linebacker.

831
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: Man you know who would be really good on this roster,

832
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: but I know he doesn't want to move from safety.

833
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: The linebacker I work with him when I was in Washington,

834
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: got a really big time, contract, all the Alabama bit

835
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,439
Speaker 1: Alabama got, but he's terrible. He's terrible against the bass.

836
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: Put him again, Landon Collins. Yeah you see, yeah, yeah,

837
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: he I remember. I like Landing Collins and he is

838
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: an absolute in the box safety and he'll hit the

839
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: bleep out of you. He is a stone cold liability

840
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: in the passing game. So that's least. That was what

841
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 1: I was told by offensive coordinators when we went against

842
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: WFT WTF. But if you got if you have Denio

843
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: and Zadarius Smith, and by the way, you need somebody

844
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: behind that. So again, you know we're spending all these picks. Man.

845
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: You know, thinking a corner absolutely at twelve. Well I

846
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: don't say absolutely, because you do need a receiver, you

847
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: need two offensive linemen, you need at least two in

848
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 1: the secondary. So right there, that seems like all of

849
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: our picks. All right, I'm gonna get you guys out

850
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: of here with this last question. Are there any other

851
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: moves this Vikings team needs to make before the draft

852
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 1: comes April twenty eight? Anybody anybody's signed a team? Hicks? No, Well, see,

853
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 1: this is the pick you're poison here. This is the

854
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: cutting off your nose. Despite your face because our defensive

855
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: line coach, Chris Rump was with the Bears last year

856
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: and he worked with a team now a team you know,

857
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: he's right at the end and he's like ten years

858
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: into it. But it's maybe it's because he has just

859
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: absolutely demoralized and demolished us so much that I'm infatuated

860
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: with him. But as a rotation substitute kind of guy,

861
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: a Keem Hicks would be the bomb on this team.

862
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: But he's not here. Granted, you know, we ain't got

863
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: the most money in the world, and his former position

864
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: coaches here, so he knows where the bones are buried.

865
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna Keem Hicks fan. I still think we

866
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 1: need thickness and girth and thrust with the with the

867
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: front seven. So I'm gonna Keem Hicks guy. If you're

868
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: gonna stay on that line of thinking, then there's another

869
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: name that right now is still sitting at number one

870
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: on the list at those positions. Jadevian Clowney. Yes out,

871
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, if you if you want a

872
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: guy that that can fit those pieces. I wants too

873
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: much money, but that's the problem. He's a liability against

874
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: the run. That's the problem. Yeah, so are we are ahead?

875
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: And Gockway, I don't want to see that again. And

876
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: that's that. I think that's the issue. You look at Clowney,

877
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: you think about him coming out of he's thinking about

878
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 1: him knocking the helmet off the Michigan player and all

879
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, and the fan fairy has had

880
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: another guy. You're like, why hasn't he stuck with the

881
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: team And he's supposed to be that good. So he's

882
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: the number one guy currently on the free agent list

883
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: as as far as defensive edge rushers. What's his size? Seven? Right?

884
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: He's like six seven? Yeah, he's huge, Okay. I mean

885
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: the other two names on the list are Tree Flowers

886
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: and Melvin Ingram. Any of those guys do anything for you?

887
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: That's edge rusher? You got more? Have? I have one? UM?

888
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: Jason Pierre Paul. I think he would be he would

889
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: fit great on this defense. I mean it comes down

890
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: to cash and it comes down to like in Tampa

891
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,439
Speaker 1: they play a four to three um, but Kansas City

892
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 1: runs a three four and Ingram when he came in

893
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 1: for all like fifteen snaps a game, they were a

894
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: very good fifth. Now Melvin Ingram he's sweet, but he's

895
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: right at the end, just like a team Hicks Sustin Houston,

896
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: also Baltimore with David With with Jadevion who played with

897
00:43:55,960 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: Cleveland most recently coached by Kevin Stefanski. The thing you

898
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: just never know. It's in my opinion, you never know

899
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: what you're going to get from Clowney every day, and

900
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 1: you can't have that, yes, in the type of culture

901
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: they're building here. Oh and by the way, your book

902
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: ender is Miles Garrett, so he's the one getting all

903
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 1: of the attention, not you. So what you're gonna do?

904
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: I just don't think enough has been done in Seattle.

905
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 1: Not enough was done. So I remember talking to Ryan Cordell,

906
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: a new game management coordinator here for the Vikings. I

907
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: talked to him last week and I just asked him.

908
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: I was like, how do you coach Male's Garrett and

909
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: Jadeveon Clowney on two sides of the like on the

910
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: field at the same time rushing the quarterback like it

911
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: should be unstoppable and similar to what you said, he's

912
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett, just an unbelievable talent. He gets tired, but

913
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: he said Jadeveon Clowney turns it on, it turns it off. Yeah,

914
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,919
Speaker 1: I said, when he turns it on. Still, to this day,

915
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: there's no defensive end in the NFL better than Jadeveon

916
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: Clowney Street to this day. Oh great, But it's those

917
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: off players that I once it can cost you a game, right,

918
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: But see we panicked and blew it. And I'm not

919
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: taking a shot at Spielman because they when Daniel went down,

920
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: our defensive end situation was terrible. So we overpaid for

921
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: Unique and Gockway and he gets here man and I

922
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: just I'm like, okay, I see that trick, but like,

923
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: what's up the other sleeve? What's down by his ankle?

924
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: You know, like run defense down by the ankle, up

925
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,959
Speaker 1: the other sleeve, keeping contain. Oh, he can run around

926
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: to guys really fast. And that's just that's what Clowney

927
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: feels like to me. And what was crazy was in

928
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: Gockway would still let our team in sacks for almost

929
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: half of the seasonable ine like Purge year. It was terrible. Yeah,

930
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 1: I mean Aaron Rodgers roles in first game, we got

931
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: no fans. You can hear him and he can hear

932
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: the defense and everything. It just killed us. It was awful.

933
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: I remember you saying after that game, he said, that's

934
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: the single most dominant performance you've ever seen here. And

935
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: then you tried to get me into an argument with

936
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: the DB's coach for the Green Bay Packers, so that

937
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 1: night I could have a twenty minute conversation with their

938
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: head coach, and it didn't work well. It worked last

939
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 1: week he said it really great things. Matt Laflare said

940
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: really great things about you and your conversation, So I

941
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 1: guess he worked out for the best of us. Hopefully

942
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: that turns into a win. Maybe you can get him

943
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 1: on the call and basically say, hey, we texted a

944
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: little bit after I thanked him for I mean it.

945
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 1: For those who watch Vikings dot com. After the Packers game,

946
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: I went pear shaped. Gabe pushed a button after former

947
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: Vikings DVS coach Jerry Gray. I felt was being a

948
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: sore loser, and I knew Jerry very well, and he

949
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 1: said some things I didn't like, and I didn't like

950
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: curse back at him or anything, but I was really

951
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: upset man. And then Gabe goes three two and I'm like,

952
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: oh great between the lines, and for some reason, I

953
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: decided to assassinate verbally. Eric Stokes, a rookie from Georgio

954
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: I've never met, and I don't have an opinion on

955
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: well it. I mean it went viral, is the kids

956
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: would say. And it's like nine thirty that evening, and

957
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: I get a call from Matt Lafleur, who got my

958
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: number from cousins. And Matt and I talked for like

959
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 1: seventeen twenty minutes, man, And you know me, Man, I

960
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: was straight with him. I mean, I'm not I'm not

961
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: on anybody's lap. Twenty years into this game. We can

962
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 1: play the Homer card with the announcer all you want,

963
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: or he says that because he gets paid by the

964
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 1: all that stuff's crap. You don't last us long in

965
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: this game like I have by playing the game that way.

966
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: So Matt and I have the best conversation. I'm like, Man,

967
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: I got so much respect for your team with these

968
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: injuries and everything you're doing. I watched all your games

969
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: and you're doing a wonderful job. Man, You're the toughest

970
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: out that I've seen in many, many years. And after

971
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 1: we talked about the situation and he told me some

972
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:28,720
Speaker 1: things confidentially, and then to know they worked that Monday

973
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: at his coach's meeting. It doesn't matter how I know.

974
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: I know to know what he told me worked exactly

975
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: the way in his coaches meeting that Monday that I

976
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: just have the ultimate respect for him because he doesn't lie.

977
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 1: He tells the truth. And so I'm not at the

978
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: owner's meeting in Palm Beach and you're sitting down with

979
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: him and you're trying to poke the bear so and

980
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: get him to rip me. Funny story. We came down

981
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 1: to the lobby it's probably ten o'clock at nine on

982
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: with Bob Hagen, and I see Matt Laflour and he's

983
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: just like gives me the death stare. I'm like, dude,

984
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, I didn't I didn't plan on saying hey.

985
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 1: I just hay him by and he's like, you're the guy. Oh.

986
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 1: I was like huh. He say, yeah, you're the guy

987
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: that got him going. Yeah. Well I said that to

988
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: him because I'm like, my guy, Gabe, he knew he

989
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: did his job. I'll just leave it at that. But

990
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: but with Matt Man, it's up Matt at the combine. See,

991
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: it's like Matt's thinking about this more than I am

992
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: because at the combine, Matt goes up to Bob Hagan

993
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: media relations mogul and somebody else I know, and is like,

994
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: where's Paul Allen. You know, I hear he's here doing

995
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: a rate. I'm like, Matt Lafloor is looking for me. Well, man,

996
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: it's nine forty five, I'm fifty six. I'm in bed. Yeah,

997
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: but it's Matt Lafloor. I go, it could be Vince

998
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: freaking Lombardi. I'm not getting out of this bed. I'm tired.

999
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: And so I missed him, you know, But then he

1000
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: was thinking about it again with the at the Owner's mate. Yeah.

1001
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 1: So when he said that honesty, contrition, love, faith, if

1002
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: you just come in things like I did with Laflora, honestly,

1003
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: you're honest. Yeah, and he appreci happens, man, he appreciated that.

1004
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: When he said you're a BS in this game and

1005
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: he just laughed. I was like, hold on, He's like, yeah,

1006
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: you're the guy to set him up and he just

1007
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,439
Speaker 1: busts out laughing. He was like, no, I'm joking. He said,

1008
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: you gotta do what you gotta do. And it's like

1009
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: and he talked to Pa. He talked to you and

1010
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: was like, man, like that's such a great guy, Like

1011
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: I really love Pa, and he just had he just sang,

1012
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: you're praises. So um, we still don't like the Packers, though.

1013
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 1: It gave you better have your head on this swivel

1014
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: pregame because there might be an Aaron Rodgers football at

1015
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: Lead coming at that dome to go to the field

1016
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: at Lambeau thinking Eric Stokes want to beat me. I

1017
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: mean I had I had like and I'm sorry card

1018
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: in my back pocket and like, hey, Eric, man, I

1019
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 1: don't know why I did that. God bless you. Just

1020
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: take this card back. I couldn't find him, but I

1021
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: was worried somebody was gonna hit me. Man as a

1022
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: guy filming on the sideline years ago and had a

1023
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: football thrown in my head. Oh you're standing there and

1024
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: you just see a football coming in your viewfinder. You're like,

1025
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: I need to take a half step this. No, no,

1026
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: you gotta take it because it goes viral. I know

1027
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 1: it well. But also I'm gonna go viral too because

1028
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be in a hospital for about three weeks

1029
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: taking on off the dome. It goes viral, just ask

1030
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 1: Ordon Struck with the Vikings Entertainment Network. Who was struck? Hey,

1031
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 1: he talked like this for three weeks, but it went viral.

1032
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: I've never heard this story. Oh you can talk about it. Yeah,

1033
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: ask him. He's really comfortable with him, Yeah, for sure,

1034
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: and he's still walking funny. Yeah. Well, guys, is this

1035
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: was a lot of fun. We spent a lot of

1036
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: time talking Vikings spent a lot of time just just

1037
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 1: shooting the breeze. And this is always great for our

1038
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: fans who tune in every single weeks in the Minnesota

1039
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: Vikings podcast and every day to nine to noon on

1040
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: Cafe and listen to the voice of the Vikings, Paul Allen.

1041
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: Let me say this in closing. I love this. This

1042
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: is old school and new school, and it meshes Jay

1043
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 1: and Jay and I have been friends for decade and

1044
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: a half minimum, and you and I have been friends

1045
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: for two years. Man, And to be able to sit

1046
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: here as a veteran and as somebody who cares about

1047
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 1: different things now than he did fifteen years ago, it's

1048
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: such an honor to be in here with old school

1049
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: and new school and laugh and genuinely have a good time,

1050
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: not be afraid if you say things like Manu was

1051
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: terrible at Lambeaux. It's nothing personal. Watch the game and

1052
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: hey objective, right, but if you played the next game

1053
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 1: or the next and the next, you'd be better. It's

1054
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: just nice to have this with this team, and you know,

1055
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 1: with a team that's had a lot of turnover on

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Speaker 1: the field behind the scenes, it's so great to gather

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Speaker 1: and walk into this beautiful radio studio and just let

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Speaker 1: it loose with old school JA and new school gamount.

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Speaker 1: I love it. Well. Vikings fans will be able to

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Speaker 1: let loose a little bit in about a little over

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Speaker 1: three weeks because the Middle Light Vikings Draft Party is

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Speaker 1: back and in person. Bring your crew down on the

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Speaker 1: field at us Bank Stadium for the full twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: two NFL Draft Experience, Los Vegas Stole. Doors will open

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Speaker 1: at six pm, so come celebrate the newest member of

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Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings with live coverage all night long from

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Speaker 1: Cafe In, as well as appearances by your current Vikings

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Speaker 1: players and favorite Vikings legends. Score your tickets now at

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Speaker 1: Vikings dot com slash Draft par Are you gonna be there?

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Speaker 1: I will be there for the first half of the show. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: you're not on the kf end Draft Party show. No

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Speaker 1: Lafleur he is, no, oh no, because of the Lafloura thing.

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Speaker 1: I just decided you're out. Okay. It's either going to

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Speaker 1: be Tatum, Wayne, Lara Vie, or Larry McCarron from the Packers'

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Speaker 1: radio network, one of the three. Oh. I thought you

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Speaker 1: were going to say Larry Michael. But I guess he's

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Speaker 1: not gonna be on that show either, so it'd be

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Speaker 1: hard to find him these days. He's I think he's

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Speaker 1: still doing boxing. Good for him. Well, Vicers fans, thank

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Speaker 1: you for tuning in to another edition of the Minnesota

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Speaker 1: Vicers podcast for a voice of the Vikings Paul Allen

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Speaker 1: producer Jay Nelson. My name is Gabe Henderson. We will

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Speaker 1: talk to you next week.