1 00:00:04,404 --> 00:00:07,244 Speaker 1: Ten Takes is a production of the NFL in partnership 2 00:00:07,284 --> 00:00:19,404 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:24,124 --> 00:00:26,924 Speaker 2: It's a really, really strange time for the Cowboys. 4 00:00:26,964 --> 00:00:28,644 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say good or bad. 5 00:00:28,684 --> 00:00:32,804 Speaker 2: It's strange because there is very little buzz and there 6 00:00:32,844 --> 00:00:37,284 Speaker 2: is very little sizzle. And in the most unusual circumstances. Listen, 7 00:00:37,364 --> 00:00:41,404 Speaker 2: it's not just Philadelphia. Washington is a bright, shiny object 8 00:00:41,404 --> 00:00:44,244 Speaker 2: who has been nothing for the last twenty years. Now 9 00:00:44,284 --> 00:00:46,404 Speaker 2: they're one of the coolest teams in the league. And 10 00:00:46,444 --> 00:00:48,724 Speaker 2: the Giants seem fun and they're gonna draft someone really 11 00:00:48,804 --> 00:00:50,124 Speaker 2: high and they got Jamis and Russell. 12 00:00:50,164 --> 00:00:53,204 Speaker 3: Like, there is so little buzz. So even when the when. 13 00:00:53,044 --> 00:00:56,004 Speaker 2: The Cowboys are the Cowboys, for all their faults, they 14 00:00:56,084 --> 00:00:58,964 Speaker 2: still have buzz. And it's still Jerry surrounded by microphones 15 00:00:58,964 --> 00:01:00,084 Speaker 2: and you're hanging on every word. 16 00:01:00,484 --> 00:01:01,404 Speaker 3: Are you right now? 17 00:01:01,604 --> 00:01:04,284 Speaker 2: Like it's if Mike and Mike get paid, he should 18 00:01:04,364 --> 00:01:06,444 Speaker 2: get paid. They're gonna they have this like this twelve 19 00:01:06,524 --> 00:01:08,764 Speaker 2: draft pick and if no one knows who they're gonna take. 20 00:01:08,964 --> 00:01:11,084 Speaker 2: Even in a lot of the draft breakdowns, which we 21 00:01:11,164 --> 00:01:13,404 Speaker 2: do twenty four to seven, there's not a lot of 22 00:01:13,444 --> 00:01:16,084 Speaker 2: Cowboys conversation and Cowboys takes. 23 00:01:16,644 --> 00:01:18,404 Speaker 3: So we're at a place right. 24 00:01:18,284 --> 00:01:20,404 Speaker 2: Now where what we should be to the headline of 25 00:01:20,404 --> 00:01:23,204 Speaker 2: their offseason, by far, should be that Mike McCarthy was 26 00:01:23,244 --> 00:01:24,964 Speaker 2: let go and they have a new Dallas head Cowboys 27 00:01:25,004 --> 00:01:26,844 Speaker 2: head coach. And there was a time when the Cowboys 28 00:01:26,844 --> 00:01:28,684 Speaker 2: had a new coach was oh my god, this is 29 00:01:28,764 --> 00:01:32,004 Speaker 2: leading every show in every segment, and we're like yeah, 30 00:01:32,084 --> 00:01:33,244 Speaker 2: I mean, no one's. 31 00:01:33,004 --> 00:01:36,924 Speaker 3: That fired up about it. So I'm not concerned. I'm 32 00:01:36,964 --> 00:01:37,804 Speaker 3: not excited. 33 00:01:38,364 --> 00:01:41,124 Speaker 2: I'm a little bit bored, and I'm just waiting for 34 00:01:41,204 --> 00:01:44,284 Speaker 2: this jolt of electricity. It didn't come in free agency. 35 00:01:44,324 --> 00:01:47,444 Speaker 2: It's not coming from a Mica contract. Maybe it comes 36 00:01:47,484 --> 00:01:49,764 Speaker 2: from the draft. I want them to clear the table 37 00:01:49,764 --> 00:01:53,244 Speaker 2: on draft night, trade up, go from twelve to eight, 38 00:01:53,444 --> 00:01:56,604 Speaker 2: do something really bold. I'm like, the Cowboys mean business. 39 00:01:56,644 --> 00:01:59,124 Speaker 2: They're not just gonna hand this season to the Eagles 40 00:01:59,124 --> 00:02:01,764 Speaker 2: and the Commanders. I'm a little bit bored. And all 41 00:02:01,844 --> 00:02:04,244 Speaker 2: the time in my entire life, I can remember think 42 00:02:04,324 --> 00:02:06,484 Speaker 2: and the Cowboys were great. I can remember thinking the 43 00:02:06,524 --> 00:02:08,924 Speaker 2: Cowboys were bad. I can't ever really remember thinking the 44 00:02:08,924 --> 00:02:10,244 Speaker 2: Cowboys were boring. 45 00:02:10,044 --> 00:02:11,844 Speaker 3: And they are right now. 46 00:02:12,124 --> 00:02:14,884 Speaker 2: Cooper Cup is an all time ram and He's an 47 00:02:14,924 --> 00:02:17,604 Speaker 2: all time RAMS receiver for an organization that has had 48 00:02:17,644 --> 00:02:22,004 Speaker 2: some incredible wide receivers. Listen, we cannot overlook the idea 49 00:02:22,044 --> 00:02:24,244 Speaker 2: of what he did in the twenty twenty one season. 50 00:02:24,524 --> 00:02:29,604 Speaker 2: He had one hundred and forty five catcheads. It's unbelievable, 51 00:02:29,964 --> 00:02:35,764 Speaker 2: sixteen touchdowns, nineteen hundred plus yards. And it's not just 52 00:02:35,804 --> 00:02:39,004 Speaker 2: that he's a good player. It's like Cooper Cup represents something. 53 00:02:39,564 --> 00:02:43,084 Speaker 2: Cooper Cup is for every kid out there who thinks 54 00:02:43,124 --> 00:02:45,564 Speaker 2: they can make the NFL and maybe they're not Calvin 55 00:02:45,644 --> 00:02:46,604 Speaker 2: Johnson physically. 56 00:02:46,884 --> 00:02:48,164 Speaker 3: This is a third. 57 00:02:47,964 --> 00:02:51,044 Speaker 2: Round pick out of Eastern Washington. 58 00:02:51,564 --> 00:02:52,884 Speaker 3: It says something about dreams. 59 00:02:52,924 --> 00:02:55,564 Speaker 2: That says something about the NFL draft that you pay 60 00:02:55,604 --> 00:02:58,204 Speaker 2: attention to those third round picks because they could end 61 00:02:58,284 --> 00:03:00,644 Speaker 2: up being legends. They can end up being Hall of famers. 62 00:03:01,044 --> 00:03:05,364 Speaker 2: That third round pick out of Eastern Washington was Secondaries 63 00:03:05,444 --> 00:03:07,244 Speaker 2: alive whenever. 64 00:03:06,724 --> 00:03:09,404 Speaker 3: He felt like it. He was an unstoppable player. 65 00:03:10,124 --> 00:03:12,284 Speaker 2: And business is business and he's got to leave and 66 00:03:12,764 --> 00:03:15,564 Speaker 2: I get that, But I just an all time RAM, 67 00:03:15,604 --> 00:03:18,964 Speaker 2: an all time twenty first century wide receiver, just a 68 00:03:19,004 --> 00:03:21,524 Speaker 2: fantastic player who gives a lot of kids dreams and 69 00:03:21,564 --> 00:03:23,084 Speaker 2: a lot of players things to aim for. 70 00:03:23,204 --> 00:03:25,124 Speaker 3: So I missed him. I think that's an absolute legend. 71 00:03:25,244 --> 00:03:26,924 Speaker 2: I hope he goes and has one hundred catches for 72 00:03:26,964 --> 00:03:28,964 Speaker 2: the Seahawks this year, but he's an all time ram 73 00:03:29,004 --> 00:03:32,564 Speaker 2: and I miss him already. I thought this Pro day 74 00:03:32,844 --> 00:03:36,964 Speaker 2: was revelatory. I think my huge takeaways. I don't think 75 00:03:37,164 --> 00:03:39,444 Speaker 2: he can draft Shador Sanders because he pats the football. 76 00:03:39,484 --> 00:03:41,964 Speaker 2: I think he'll be undrafted all through seven rounds. There's 77 00:03:41,964 --> 00:03:44,884 Speaker 2: no possible way you could draft. Bring up the videotape, guys, 78 00:03:45,204 --> 00:03:50,204 Speaker 2: irreparable damage to Shador Sanders' reputation as a football player as. 79 00:03:50,004 --> 00:03:50,684 Speaker 3: A human being. 80 00:03:50,764 --> 00:03:53,604 Speaker 2: Just watched right before he throws, if we can see it, 81 00:03:54,044 --> 00:03:57,244 Speaker 2: he does a little tap one sixteenth of a second, 82 00:03:57,284 --> 00:03:59,924 Speaker 2: he pats the ball, and I think you have to 83 00:03:59,924 --> 00:04:00,844 Speaker 2: take him off the board. 84 00:04:00,964 --> 00:04:02,884 Speaker 3: Not the first round. Not the first He's going to 85 00:04:03,084 --> 00:04:05,484 Speaker 3: free fall and end up going into. 86 00:04:05,284 --> 00:04:07,284 Speaker 2: A different line of work. Because it's not just me 87 00:04:07,364 --> 00:04:09,804 Speaker 2: saying that. It's not a straw man. Go ahead and 88 00:04:09,844 --> 00:04:12,684 Speaker 2: go to the social media component. We had high visible players. 89 00:04:12,724 --> 00:04:15,284 Speaker 2: Andre Cisco now with the Jets, boy, better stop patting 90 00:04:15,284 --> 00:04:15,484 Speaker 2: the ball. 91 00:04:15,524 --> 00:04:17,964 Speaker 3: We're breaking on that early, okay, and. 92 00:04:17,884 --> 00:04:20,084 Speaker 2: Then Darius Slayton on the Giants is trying to defend them. 93 00:04:20,084 --> 00:04:22,684 Speaker 2: But Michael Parsons comes in. You realize that pat on 94 00:04:22,684 --> 00:04:24,444 Speaker 2: the ball could be difference between a sack Er throw 95 00:04:24,444 --> 00:04:27,444 Speaker 2: away completion. Again, I don't think you draft schendor Sanders 96 00:04:27,484 --> 00:04:28,844 Speaker 2: because I did the research. 97 00:04:28,884 --> 00:04:30,844 Speaker 3: Guys, there has never been an NFL. 98 00:04:30,604 --> 00:04:33,084 Speaker 2: Quarterback who pats the ball who's had any success in 99 00:04:33,084 --> 00:04:33,404 Speaker 2: the league. 100 00:04:33,444 --> 00:04:35,804 Speaker 3: I even have videotape. Bring up the videotape. 101 00:04:35,884 --> 00:04:38,364 Speaker 2: All the guys who past the ball like that guy 102 00:04:38,404 --> 00:04:39,684 Speaker 2: never amounted to anything. 103 00:04:39,684 --> 00:04:41,244 Speaker 3: Give me more. It's not just a one off. 104 00:04:41,444 --> 00:04:45,804 Speaker 2: Matthew Staffords, Pat right before he throws has never done 105 00:04:45,804 --> 00:04:47,764 Speaker 2: squat in the league and never made any money. This 106 00:04:47,804 --> 00:04:49,884 Speaker 2: guy does never bright future. Look at the pack before 107 00:04:49,924 --> 00:04:53,324 Speaker 2: the Giant deep ball. Again, you can't draft your door, 108 00:04:53,404 --> 00:04:56,404 Speaker 2: Josh Allen. What you want MVP Pat before he throws 109 00:04:56,444 --> 00:04:59,204 Speaker 2: the ball? Brady Again, he actually played for a team 110 00:04:59,324 --> 00:05:02,044 Speaker 2: called the Pats, and he's patting Rogers. 111 00:05:02,084 --> 00:05:04,924 Speaker 3: Watch Pat get out of here. I'm going to go 112 00:05:05,124 --> 00:05:06,244 Speaker 3: back down to Planet Earth. 113 00:05:06,284 --> 00:05:11,924 Speaker 2: Now. You knew that after Shador's workout, showcase, spectacle, whatever circus, 114 00:05:11,964 --> 00:05:13,964 Speaker 2: whatever he wanted to call it, they were going to 115 00:05:14,004 --> 00:05:16,004 Speaker 2: be takes, and they were going to be daggers, and 116 00:05:16,044 --> 00:05:18,804 Speaker 2: they were going to be critics. Even if someone didn't 117 00:05:18,844 --> 00:05:21,364 Speaker 2: have any criticism, they were going to make it up 118 00:05:21,564 --> 00:05:23,844 Speaker 2: just to resonate and just to be heard. And that's 119 00:05:23,884 --> 00:05:26,004 Speaker 2: going to be the shadure story at the draft and 120 00:05:26,044 --> 00:05:28,444 Speaker 2: when he starts Week one, whatever it may be, there's 121 00:05:28,484 --> 00:05:30,924 Speaker 2: going to be criticism just for criticism's sake. 122 00:05:31,204 --> 00:05:32,164 Speaker 3: But standing there. 123 00:05:32,044 --> 00:05:35,204 Speaker 2: Watching him patting the ball before he throws and saying 124 00:05:35,484 --> 00:05:37,204 Speaker 2: this is going to be a big problem and he's 125 00:05:37,204 --> 00:05:40,004 Speaker 2: going to break the rookie in exceptions record is stupid. 126 00:05:40,364 --> 00:05:43,284 Speaker 2: It's doing it just for doing its sake. Look at 127 00:05:43,324 --> 00:05:45,404 Speaker 2: what I just showed. You don't do it. If you 128 00:05:45,444 --> 00:05:47,804 Speaker 2: have honest criticism, then make it. But if you're doing 129 00:05:47,844 --> 00:05:49,764 Speaker 2: it just to do it, stop because you know who 130 00:05:49,804 --> 00:05:52,684 Speaker 2: else pats the ball. Cam Ward pats the ball. And 131 00:05:52,764 --> 00:05:54,804 Speaker 2: I watched his pro day and none of you guys 132 00:05:54,844 --> 00:05:57,964 Speaker 2: said squat. You're saying it because his last name is Sanders, 133 00:05:58,004 --> 00:06:00,404 Speaker 2: because who his father is, because you know it will resonate. 134 00:06:00,764 --> 00:06:03,644 Speaker 2: He pats the ball just like Josh Allen does, just 135 00:06:03,644 --> 00:06:06,164 Speaker 2: like Tom Brady he does, and on and on and on. 136 00:06:06,244 --> 00:06:08,684 Speaker 2: If you want to criticize anything about his attitude or 137 00:06:08,684 --> 00:06:11,084 Speaker 2: his arm strength, fine, but the patting the ball thing 138 00:06:11,164 --> 00:06:13,004 Speaker 2: is stupid, and I hope you don't talk about it 139 00:06:13,004 --> 00:06:14,964 Speaker 2: in this show from this day forward, and I know 140 00:06:15,004 --> 00:06:17,124 Speaker 2: you'll talk about on the other shows. Good luck, leave 141 00:06:17,164 --> 00:06:19,244 Speaker 2: the guy along unless you have something honest to say. 142 00:06:19,284 --> 00:06:19,964 Speaker 3: That's my take. 143 00:06:21,124 --> 00:06:23,164 Speaker 2: I don't think it was a statement about what position 144 00:06:23,244 --> 00:06:23,804 Speaker 2: he's going to play. 145 00:06:23,844 --> 00:06:26,524 Speaker 3: He's on record many times that he wants to play 146 00:06:26,604 --> 00:06:29,364 Speaker 3: full time both positions. I think it's very cool that 147 00:06:29,404 --> 00:06:31,844 Speaker 3: he played without gloves. I think there's something throwback about that. 148 00:06:31,884 --> 00:06:33,844 Speaker 2: As if you needed to see more from Travis Hunter, 149 00:06:33,924 --> 00:06:35,204 Speaker 2: you saw it, and it is. 150 00:06:35,284 --> 00:06:37,044 Speaker 3: It's history we've never seen. 151 00:06:37,084 --> 00:06:39,524 Speaker 2: I'm the best receiver and I'm the best defensive back both. 152 00:06:39,964 --> 00:06:42,564 Speaker 2: So it's the top five pick, and it's kind of 153 00:06:42,564 --> 00:06:44,684 Speaker 2: like Dion saying, like, what am I gonna come out 154 00:06:44,724 --> 00:06:47,084 Speaker 2: here and either A injure myself or B give you 155 00:06:47,124 --> 00:06:49,644 Speaker 2: something that's going to criticize me, Like some of these 156 00:06:49,644 --> 00:06:52,044 Speaker 2: guys just have a mystique. Lamar Jackson never ran a 157 00:06:52,084 --> 00:06:53,804 Speaker 2: forty leading up to the draft. We still don't know 158 00:06:53,804 --> 00:06:56,484 Speaker 2: what Lamar Jackson's forty time is now. He was later 159 00:06:56,524 --> 00:06:58,004 Speaker 2: in the draft, and he went to the end of 160 00:06:58,004 --> 00:06:59,964 Speaker 2: the first round, which Travis Hunter is not going to. 161 00:07:00,284 --> 00:07:02,204 Speaker 2: I'm at the place now where just a couple weeks 162 00:07:02,204 --> 00:07:04,364 Speaker 2: away from the draft that my dream landing spot for 163 00:07:04,404 --> 00:07:05,204 Speaker 2: Travis Hunter. 164 00:07:05,004 --> 00:07:05,844 Speaker 3: Is New England at four. 165 00:07:06,084 --> 00:07:08,564 Speaker 2: I want him at four because my dream is I 166 00:07:08,564 --> 00:07:10,564 Speaker 2: wanted to see him play heavy snaps on both sides 167 00:07:10,564 --> 00:07:13,084 Speaker 2: of the ball. For that to happen, I think you 168 00:07:13,124 --> 00:07:16,284 Speaker 2: need some coaches who are not going to be rattled 169 00:07:16,284 --> 00:07:19,844 Speaker 2: by anything, who are completely securing themselves. Mike Rabel head coach, 170 00:07:20,124 --> 00:07:23,804 Speaker 2: Josh McDaniels offensive coordinator. The head coach is a defensive 171 00:07:23,804 --> 00:07:26,564 Speaker 2: guy who has doesn't make any apologies, does whatever he wants. 172 00:07:26,844 --> 00:07:27,564 Speaker 3: The coordinator is. 173 00:07:27,524 --> 00:07:29,364 Speaker 2: An offensive guy who has been around the block a 174 00:07:29,364 --> 00:07:31,884 Speaker 2: million times and has Super Bowl rings. Those are guys 175 00:07:31,924 --> 00:07:34,044 Speaker 2: with the confidence and the spine and the balls to 176 00:07:34,084 --> 00:07:36,004 Speaker 2: say we're really going to do this. We're going to 177 00:07:36,124 --> 00:07:37,884 Speaker 2: draft him and we're going to get him heavy snaps 178 00:07:37,884 --> 00:07:38,484 Speaker 2: on both. 179 00:07:38,284 --> 00:07:39,004 Speaker 3: Sides of the ball. 180 00:07:39,444 --> 00:07:41,364 Speaker 2: I think some of these other coaches, I don't know, 181 00:07:41,444 --> 00:07:42,924 Speaker 2: we don't know to get him injured. It has never 182 00:07:42,964 --> 00:07:45,924 Speaker 2: happened before, there's no plan for it. I think I 183 00:07:45,964 --> 00:07:48,604 Speaker 2: look earlier in the draft, especially something like Tennessee and 184 00:07:48,644 --> 00:07:50,804 Speaker 2: the Cleveland and Giants. They got great coaches, of course, 185 00:07:51,084 --> 00:07:53,124 Speaker 2: but I just think that the guys on New England 186 00:07:53,124 --> 00:07:55,964 Speaker 2: are varsity, They've been around defense, offense. I think it's 187 00:07:56,004 --> 00:07:58,164 Speaker 2: the right spot for him. Plus New England is so 188 00:07:58,284 --> 00:08:01,764 Speaker 2: short on weapons and talents that they really need to 189 00:08:01,844 --> 00:08:04,404 Speaker 2: maximize him. That's my dream is that he goes to 190 00:08:04,444 --> 00:08:07,524 Speaker 2: Foxborough in a couple of weeks, we find out, you know, 191 00:08:07,564 --> 00:08:09,924 Speaker 2: who is a really pleasant person to be around, Ian 192 00:08:10,164 --> 00:08:14,844 Speaker 2: Maddy Reflus, great guy, great, great hang, very pleasant, very polite. 193 00:08:15,164 --> 00:08:17,764 Speaker 2: And if Ben Jonson's not that, and he's a little 194 00:08:17,804 --> 00:08:21,604 Speaker 2: bit of a football jerk, fine bring it. Everybody got comfortable. 195 00:08:21,604 --> 00:08:22,764 Speaker 2: I have a lot to say about this. I'm not 196 00:08:22,804 --> 00:08:24,444 Speaker 2: gonna have a lot to say during the rap Draft. 197 00:08:24,524 --> 00:08:26,724 Speaker 2: I'll make up for it then. But right now, the 198 00:08:26,764 --> 00:08:28,644 Speaker 2: guy who has said something this week that I thought 199 00:08:28,684 --> 00:08:30,964 Speaker 2: really caught my attention, that everyone should pay attention to 200 00:08:31,324 --> 00:08:34,004 Speaker 2: is Jalen Johnson. This is the young, very talented defensive 201 00:08:34,004 --> 00:08:37,324 Speaker 2: back for the Bears who was asked yesterday, Hey, there's 202 00:08:37,364 --> 00:08:39,324 Speaker 2: a lot of hype going on right This is pretty exciting, 203 00:08:39,404 --> 00:08:40,044 Speaker 2: right for the Bears. 204 00:08:40,044 --> 00:08:40,724 Speaker 3: Here's what he said. 205 00:08:41,724 --> 00:08:44,844 Speaker 4: I've been through too many times. Man, I'm gonna get 206 00:08:44,844 --> 00:08:48,244 Speaker 4: excited when we win in November December and we change 207 00:08:48,244 --> 00:08:50,484 Speaker 4: something and get to the playoffs. That's when I'll be excited. 208 00:08:50,484 --> 00:08:51,804 Speaker 4: I don't have none to do with me. The only 209 00:08:51,844 --> 00:08:53,604 Speaker 4: thing that has anything to do with me is the 210 00:08:53,684 --> 00:08:55,484 Speaker 4: work that I put it in, work that we put 211 00:08:55,524 --> 00:08:57,524 Speaker 4: in as a unit, and just taking steps in the 212 00:08:57,564 --> 00:09:00,404 Speaker 4: right direction. Other than that, to talk to hype and 213 00:09:00,444 --> 00:09:02,724 Speaker 4: all that I mean hyped on with you know games. 214 00:09:02,804 --> 00:09:04,844 Speaker 4: So I mean, I've been here a minute, been through 215 00:09:04,844 --> 00:09:07,164 Speaker 4: the hype, and we don't win no games. So I mean, 216 00:09:07,204 --> 00:09:09,284 Speaker 4: for me, if it's not about winning, Kari Hardens, I 217 00:09:09,324 --> 00:09:10,404 Speaker 4: don't really care about it. 218 00:09:11,364 --> 00:09:13,604 Speaker 2: You know what's crazy. That's a twenty five year old guy. 219 00:09:13,884 --> 00:09:16,564 Speaker 2: Twenty five. I feel like he's fifty because he's been 220 00:09:16,564 --> 00:09:19,644 Speaker 2: through on these Bears seasons and he knows, he knows 221 00:09:19,684 --> 00:09:21,844 Speaker 2: that there are so many questions and nobody knows the 222 00:09:21,884 --> 00:09:24,244 Speaker 2: answers to off the top of my head, is Caleb 223 00:09:24,324 --> 00:09:26,764 Speaker 2: Good I don't know. I think so, I hope so, 224 00:09:27,084 --> 00:09:29,804 Speaker 2: but nobody knows. Is Roma Dunze going to be one 225 00:09:29,844 --> 00:09:32,044 Speaker 2: hundred catch guy in this league don't know, but he's 226 00:09:32,084 --> 00:09:34,604 Speaker 2: supposed to be Jamar Chase based on where they drafted him. 227 00:09:34,684 --> 00:09:36,964 Speaker 2: Is Ben Johnson going to be a good coach? You 228 00:09:37,004 --> 00:09:39,404 Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know he's ever coached before. This 229 00:09:39,484 --> 00:09:41,284 Speaker 2: is not Jim Harbu, it's not Mike Rabel, it's not 230 00:09:41,324 --> 00:09:41,844 Speaker 2: Pete Carroll. 231 00:09:42,084 --> 00:09:44,604 Speaker 3: We don't know. Is Ryan Pohl's going to stick to 232 00:09:44,684 --> 00:09:46,604 Speaker 3: landing on this first round draft pick? I don't know. 233 00:09:46,844 --> 00:09:48,524 Speaker 3: He's made very few first round picks. 234 00:09:48,564 --> 00:09:51,284 Speaker 2: They're usually nine or ten, and the jury is out 235 00:09:51,324 --> 00:09:54,084 Speaker 2: on all of them, so we don't know. And it's 236 00:09:54,244 --> 00:09:56,324 Speaker 2: you know what, I think it's exciting to not know. 237 00:09:56,404 --> 00:09:59,484 Speaker 2: Because Bears fans, there's three types of seasons. One we 238 00:09:59,604 --> 00:10:02,724 Speaker 2: got this, Two, we're gonna suck this year, and three, 239 00:10:02,764 --> 00:10:04,564 Speaker 2: I don't know what we have. You are right there 240 00:10:04,564 --> 00:10:07,644 Speaker 2: in category three. Lastly, on this, I like that Jalen 241 00:10:07,724 --> 00:10:09,324 Speaker 2: Johnson is saying, I'm not going to give into the 242 00:10:09,364 --> 00:10:11,044 Speaker 2: hype and we'll wait and we'll wait and we'll wait. 243 00:10:11,604 --> 00:10:14,844 Speaker 3: Fans go ahead and give into the hype. I don't 244 00:10:14,844 --> 00:10:17,564 Speaker 3: even know if it's gone too far. It's gone on 245 00:10:17,644 --> 00:10:20,284 Speaker 3: too long, and I just think if you're someone who. 246 00:10:20,244 --> 00:10:23,364 Speaker 2: Tires of the sports take machine and the fake debates 247 00:10:23,404 --> 00:10:25,684 Speaker 2: and that type of noise. This is probably the worst 248 00:10:25,724 --> 00:10:28,324 Speaker 2: time of the year right now, thirteen days from the draft, 249 00:10:28,364 --> 00:10:30,484 Speaker 2: because before the Super Bowl we talked about the game 250 00:10:30,524 --> 00:10:31,164 Speaker 2: for ten days. 251 00:10:31,164 --> 00:10:33,764 Speaker 3: Well, we've talked about the draft for months. 252 00:10:33,444 --> 00:10:36,484 Speaker 2: Now, and we've talked about this guy for two years now. 253 00:10:36,764 --> 00:10:39,404 Speaker 2: So the takes you're getting exhausted and they're getting depleted. 254 00:10:39,444 --> 00:10:41,004 Speaker 2: And you can't just come on air if you're on 255 00:10:41,044 --> 00:10:43,164 Speaker 2: certain types of shows and be like, seems like a 256 00:10:43,164 --> 00:10:44,444 Speaker 2: solid guy and a pretty good player. 257 00:10:44,484 --> 00:10:46,324 Speaker 3: What's your take? You have to have some sort of 258 00:10:46,404 --> 00:10:49,684 Speaker 3: meat and teeth. And Chadura is so right to sit there. 259 00:10:49,524 --> 00:10:52,684 Speaker 2: In the airport and just absolutely run down those dumb 260 00:10:52,764 --> 00:10:56,044 Speaker 2: takes and how wrong they've been. He's soft, No, he's not. 261 00:10:56,284 --> 00:11:00,444 Speaker 2: He's arrogant. You're ignorant. Why is he wearing all those diamonds? 262 00:11:00,684 --> 00:11:01,284 Speaker 3: What do you care? 263 00:11:01,324 --> 00:11:04,004 Speaker 2: He's twenty three and he's independently wealthy, wouldn't you of course? 264 00:11:04,044 --> 00:11:07,524 Speaker 2: He he's off the field, No, he's not. He pats 265 00:11:07,564 --> 00:11:10,204 Speaker 2: the ball, so does Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, 266 00:11:10,204 --> 00:11:12,044 Speaker 2: Aaron rodd As. We've run down that already, and what 267 00:11:12,124 --> 00:11:13,884 Speaker 2: I love that Shador's saying is we go back to 268 00:11:13,924 --> 00:11:17,124 Speaker 2: the table in la. I can't wait to see what's next. 269 00:11:17,324 --> 00:11:19,964 Speaker 2: We're thirteen days out. There will be more about this. 270 00:11:20,124 --> 00:11:22,924 Speaker 2: There will probably be a draft night slight about him, 271 00:11:22,924 --> 00:11:25,564 Speaker 2: something he does on that night or right after that night. 272 00:11:25,844 --> 00:11:28,644 Speaker 2: And all he does is stand in the wind and 273 00:11:28,804 --> 00:11:31,004 Speaker 2: walk through the fire. Do you know how difficult it 274 00:11:31,044 --> 00:11:34,244 Speaker 2: must be to grow up Dion Sanders' son? Your father 275 00:11:34,364 --> 00:11:36,844 Speaker 2: signs autographs with a dollar sign instead of an ass 276 00:11:36,884 --> 00:11:39,764 Speaker 2: and still say humble and tough. And he has done it. 277 00:11:39,764 --> 00:11:42,164 Speaker 2: It's my favorite player in the draft. I love how 278 00:11:42,204 --> 00:11:43,924 Speaker 2: he stands up to it, and he's going to continue 279 00:11:43,924 --> 00:11:45,884 Speaker 2: to do it. I love those guys right there, So 280 00:11:45,964 --> 00:11:48,204 Speaker 2: keep coming up with stuff. You got time thirteen days. 281 00:11:48,364 --> 00:11:50,644 Speaker 2: You got ratians and clicks to get, so go ahead, 282 00:11:50,684 --> 00:11:51,284 Speaker 2: come up with something. 283 00:11:51,364 --> 00:11:54,124 Speaker 3: See what you can do. I have to be honest 284 00:11:54,124 --> 00:11:56,644 Speaker 3: and candid here. I'm a skeptic of JJ McCarthy. I'm 285 00:11:56,684 --> 00:11:57,644 Speaker 3: certainly rooting for him. 286 00:11:57,684 --> 00:12:00,284 Speaker 2: Seems like a great dude, but I am not just saying, yeah, 287 00:12:00,324 --> 00:12:01,084 Speaker 2: just plug and play. 288 00:12:01,084 --> 00:12:02,444 Speaker 3: You'll jump in there and be fine. You know what. 289 00:12:02,724 --> 00:12:06,164 Speaker 2: It always rugs me the long way when a conversation 290 00:12:06,284 --> 00:12:09,804 Speaker 2: about a player, Every single conversation seems to begin with. 291 00:12:09,844 --> 00:12:11,164 Speaker 3: He's a winner. He's a winner. 292 00:12:11,244 --> 00:12:13,604 Speaker 2: Echoes back to at the draft, echoes back to now. 293 00:12:13,724 --> 00:12:16,844 Speaker 2: Sure enough, Aaron Jones sits down Good Morning Football Studios yesterday, 294 00:12:16,884 --> 00:12:18,084 Speaker 2: what do you think of JJ McCarthy. 295 00:12:18,204 --> 00:12:20,524 Speaker 3: He's a winner. All he's ever done is win. It's 296 00:12:20,524 --> 00:12:21,404 Speaker 3: a nice quality. 297 00:12:21,644 --> 00:12:24,644 Speaker 2: I need something else before that, because Patrick Mahomes didn't 298 00:12:24,644 --> 00:12:28,004 Speaker 2: wins squat in college, all right, Kyler Murray didn't lose 299 00:12:28,004 --> 00:12:30,084 Speaker 2: a game like going back to five years old, gets 300 00:12:30,164 --> 00:12:32,324 Speaker 2: the NFL and has had a hard time winning. I 301 00:12:32,364 --> 00:12:35,444 Speaker 2: don't really care about JJ McCarthy's high school roster that 302 00:12:35,484 --> 00:12:37,324 Speaker 2: he was winning with as it pertains to how he's 303 00:12:37,324 --> 00:12:39,164 Speaker 2: gonna win with the Vikings this year. And I think 304 00:12:39,164 --> 00:12:43,364 Speaker 2: it's naive to say, well, Sam Donald did it last year, 305 00:12:43,444 --> 00:12:44,644 Speaker 2: so certainly JJ could. 306 00:12:44,764 --> 00:12:47,244 Speaker 3: Sam Donald's been around this league for years. 307 00:12:47,244 --> 00:12:49,484 Speaker 2: He has a lot of starting experience, He has a 308 00:12:49,524 --> 00:12:52,444 Speaker 2: lot of things going for him that JJ McCarthy does not. 309 00:12:52,684 --> 00:12:55,884 Speaker 2: And I think it's hubris in Kevin O'Connell and Justin 310 00:12:55,924 --> 00:12:58,764 Speaker 2: Jefferson to say JJ, with no experience and coming off 311 00:12:58,844 --> 00:13:00,724 Speaker 2: knee injury, he can just start chucking it all around, 312 00:13:00,724 --> 00:13:01,884 Speaker 2: and we'll go fourteen and three again. 313 00:13:01,924 --> 00:13:02,964 Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be a struggle. 314 00:13:03,044 --> 00:13:04,844 Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a building year, and I'm 315 00:13:04,884 --> 00:13:07,564 Speaker 2: not interested in how many games he won years ago. 316 00:13:07,884 --> 00:13:10,084 Speaker 2: I more want his leadership, his arm strength, and the 317 00:13:10,124 --> 00:13:13,004 Speaker 2: tangible things now that we need that we still haven't 318 00:13:13,044 --> 00:13:15,004 Speaker 2: seen yet. So I'm go in wait and see mode two, 319 00:13:15,124 --> 00:13:18,924 Speaker 2: rooting for him, but not expecting massive Pro Bowl type. 320 00:13:18,684 --> 00:13:19,804 Speaker 3: Stuff this year, not yet. 321 00:13:28,484 --> 00:13:31,284 Speaker 1: Ten Takes is a production of the NFL in partnership 322 00:13:31,324 --> 00:13:36,484 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. For more iHeartRadio pods, go to the iHeartRadio app, 323 00:13:36,884 --> 00:13:39,844 Speaker 1: go to Apple, go anywhere you like, it'll be there.