1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: Hey, they're folks. It is Sunday, August twenty fourth. And 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: you remember when I said I was teen Conrad. Well, 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: I take it back right now. Welcome to this episode 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: of Amy and TJ. Just because I'm off team Conrad 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: doesn't mean I'm on team Jeremiah actually robes, I want 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:23,159 Speaker 1: to withdraw myself from this debate. I unwittingly got into it. 7 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: I thought this was just all fun and game to 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: talking about some teenagers your own team, this team that 9 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: I had a debate and arguments in air quotes there 10 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 1: with my twelve year old child about it on this podcast. 11 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: I gotta take it back. This is a little more 12 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: serious than I gave it credit for. 13 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 2: Uh yes, because people take their teams very seriously as 14 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 2: a matter of life or death. Apparently, it's always remarkable 15 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 2: to me. I think it's a good thing, obviously for 16 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 2: Amazon and for any of the actors. When people are 17 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: invested in your show, they care about the outcome. That's awesome. 18 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: But there is a point in which people care too 19 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 2: much and people forget. You know, this isn't a reality show. 20 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: These aren't actual people who are actually in a relationship triangle. 21 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: This is a script. It was actually a series of 22 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 2: three books. It's hits. 23 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: Yes, show hit correct it to be fun. 24 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: This is fictional. It's fictional, so it's fun to root 25 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 2: for people. It's fun to be on someone's team. I 26 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 2: totally get that, but I just think it's frightening that 27 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: people can't separate reality from fiction. 28 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I didn't realize when the show came out 29 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: several weeks ago. When it launched this third season the show, 30 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: Amazon in their official social media pages actually put up 31 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: warnings of people about bullying and harassment and said it 32 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: wasn't going to be tolerated. We'll give you the full 33 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: text of that in a second. But they knew or 34 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: they anticipated rhades this coming. You were talking about such 35 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: a hit, and it's this fiction and well written. I mean, 36 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: how I think it should be celebrated. I was saying 37 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: this to Sabine. I am a forty eight year old 38 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: black man. This this book was not written for me. 39 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: The show was not done for me. But I am 40 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: engaged they have me reacting to things on the show. 41 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: I think that must be brilliant writing. I think that 42 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: is a great show. Why has it become such a 43 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: negative thing that you gotta want Hey, heads up, this 44 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: hit show's coming back. Behave. 45 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: It's disturbing because, yes, this was a trilogy for young adults. 46 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: This is a young adult book trilogy that has been 47 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: made into a show on Amazon Prime. But this made 48 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: me laugh because it's made audience is not teenagers, even 49 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 2: though yes, art you're soon to be teenager, and my 50 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 2: nineteen year old and twenty two year old are like 51 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: that should be. You would think that's the target audience 52 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: right anywhere from perhaps twelve or a tween, all the 53 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 2: way up until you're maybe late twenties, even because it's 54 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: all about young love and your first summer love, all 55 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 2: of that. So I get it. But according to Amazon Prime, 56 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: the main audience is not that age group I said, 57 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 2: but twenty five to fifty four year old women. That 58 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 2: maybe it's fun and nostalgic to reflect back on your 59 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 2: first love. 60 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 1: That why is it that is the age group? Why 61 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: would you say twenty five to fifty four year old 62 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: woman would be so into this show? 63 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 2: So do you know what? It reminds me of nine 64 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 2: two and oh so I'm fifty two, so I would 65 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 2: be in that age group and back in the day 66 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 2: that was the coming of age. Show on Fox nine 67 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 2: O two and oh, and you were either team Dylan 68 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 2: or team Brandon. This is actually reminded me so I 69 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 2: remember my college roommate my freshman year. I was team Brandon. 70 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 2: She was team Dylan, and so she put a poster 71 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 2: of Dylan over her bunk bed and I put a 72 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: poster of Brandon on my bunk bed. 73 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: The girl fighting. 74 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: Well, they weren't necessarily fighting over. It was just who 75 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 2: you liked best. So it's not it wasn't necessarily a 76 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: love triangle. No, no, this was no, it wasn't like that. 77 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 2: But still there were the two kind of main heart throbs, 78 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 2: and those girls would say over who they liked more, 79 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 2: who was the better boyfriend? Who was the better guy? 80 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: Did she ever get to a fight over it? Did 81 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: you lose your friendship over it? 82 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 2: I was annoyed that she liked Dylan. I thought she 83 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 2: was crazy, and then she was annoyed that I like Brandon. 84 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 2: But it stopped. It ended there. It was kind of 85 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 2: a joke. We would talk about it. It would get 86 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: a little heated sometimes, but we were joking. 87 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: It was passionate. Passionate is it wasn't ugly and we're 88 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: talking about this now. Gavin cas Castelagno, Castelano, Castelania, excuse me. 89 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: Gavin Castelanio is the young fella that plays Jeremiah. Jeremiah 90 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: seems to be getting so much of the hate right 91 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: now on the show. Full disclosure here, we said it. 92 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: We are only up to season two episode four ish 93 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: or five ish, so we're not completely caught up. But 94 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: apparently this last new episode people really episode seven, yes, 95 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: really didn't appreciate something that went down that we haven't 96 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: seen yet, but something with Jeremiah, So some more hate came. 97 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: I'm still real. He just did a new interview with 98 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: The New York Times. We'll get into his comments here, 99 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: but he said he's been kind of detached from it, 100 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: and some of that was intentional. And it's even spoken 101 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: about people coming up to him on the street. I 102 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: figured he was going to say, yeah, they come up 103 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: to me and they're all nice and fine. He said, no, 104 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: they come up to him complaining and bitching about a 105 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: fictional character that he plays as an actor. 106 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 2: Yes, among the many things he said to The New 107 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: York Times, he was reminding readers and viewers who were 108 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 2: reading his interview with The New York times that this, 109 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 2: in fact is a fictional character, This in fact is 110 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 2: a script based on a book that was already written. 111 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 2: This isn't actually him, He is not Jeremiah, he is Gavin. 112 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: Why are we even having to say that it's scary? 113 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: It is? And that's word was used by another actor 114 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: as well, Lola Tong, who plays Belly in the show. 115 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: She used that word scary. It's actually scary what happens 116 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: out there. So we talk about this in looks sometimes 117 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 1: how much of it is just heated debate and fun 118 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: and passion says like whoa pump the brakes here? This 119 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: is going too far? And I don't know robes some 120 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: of the comments I plucked in here, and these are 121 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: some of the most recent. I didn't have to go 122 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: very far to find these. Is this just passion and 123 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: fun stuff on social media? Is it? Should we take 124 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: it this? I don't know how how heavy do you 125 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: find these comments? 126 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 2: I think that for the most part they're comical. For 127 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: the most part, they're funny, But there are a few 128 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: that are scary because not everybody you know, it's It's 129 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 2: one of those things where it is disturbing because there 130 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 2: are people out there and I do wonder in this 131 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 2: age of technology where all of our kids and everybody 132 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 2: is just online, there is almost a lack of social 133 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 2: there's this social ineptness for a lot of folks. Maybe 134 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 2: it's difficult for some kids who have grown up with 135 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 2: nothing but their screens and their connection to people online, 136 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 2: and they kind of lump it all in the same 137 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 2: boat where it's all just it's removed from actually having 138 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 2: a one on one so they aren't able to actually 139 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 2: discern with what's real and what's not. I do worry 140 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 2: about that a little bit, and so yes, some of 141 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 2: these for that reason. And people are disturbed sometimes and 142 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 2: people are, you know, mentally not the same as others. 143 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 2: So yeah, there are concerns I would as an actor, 144 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: I would be concerned that. 145 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: Is that's too bad. So just the example of the 146 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: comments that's you're playing a Figure's one thing that you know, right, 147 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: Comedians sometimes they take it to a line and their 148 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: protests and things and they're targeted in some way. But 149 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: we talk about real individuals. If to target someone we're 150 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: playing a character seems bizarre, it does. It does actors, 151 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: they're actors, Okay, So you be the judge. Folks, just 152 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: a few examples, Jeremiah Fisher gets a lot of hate, 153 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: but it's not enough. That's not bad. That's fine. We 154 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: get he gets a lot of hate, it's not enough. Still, 155 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: that seemed to take it too far, but fine. Now 156 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: they get into a little nastier stuff where we just say, 157 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: fucking shag talking about the character. Guys, don't hate on 158 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: Jeremiah without me. Yeah, that could be funny, it could 159 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: be seen. But then a few of these get a 160 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: little nastier. What episode does he die? Whoo? 161 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: That's stuff. I've seen ones that say like, Jeremiah is 162 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:21,239 Speaker 2: the smallest man who ever lived. This was straight up diabolical, 163 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 2: you know, so they're attributing, you know, satanic like qualities 164 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 2: to him. There are other concerning comments that just make 165 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 2: people say, join with me, am, I the only one 166 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 2: who hates Jeremiah. Like, just even using the word hate 167 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: is disturbing to me. I never hated a character more 168 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 2: than I hated Jeremiah. Okay. And also people say like 169 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: Jared knows exactly what he's doing here, how petty Jared 170 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 2: knows exactly what he's doing here. It's almost as if 171 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 2: they're attributing like a mindset to Jeremiah and then putting 172 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 2: it on Gavin the actor as being a bad person 173 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 2: for being manipulative. 174 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: I get the passion there. A lot of this is 175 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 1: directed at the character A lot of times. A lot 176 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: of folks are still the language seems a little strong, 177 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: but a lot of it is directed at the character. 178 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 1: I don't like how he's manipulating her. I don't like 179 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 1: when he did this, and that criticism is fair and fine. 180 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: I don't like this guy, and you're caught up in 181 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: that fictional world too. 182 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 2: I think it's totally fun and fine to hate on characters. 183 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 2: It's just when it bleeds over to the actual actor. 184 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: I wanted to point out I loved what I thought. 185 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: What Delta Airlines did was hilarious, and if you jump 186 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 2: on their social media account, people were praising their social 187 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 2: media team because it was a moment where the airline 188 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 2: jumped in on all of the social fervor. But they 189 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 2: said seats for the boys, and they showed that one 190 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 2: of their planes and it showed Conrad's seat first class, 191 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 2: and then it showed Jeremiah's seat, the toilet seat, and 192 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 2: people went off and just said same. I didn't realize 193 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 2: how much I love Delta Flying Delta Forever now, I mean, 194 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 2: it was really actually remarkable. 195 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: I'm okay with what they did even I thought that 196 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: was kind of clever and they jumped on board. But 197 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: when somebody writes, what episode does he die? Somebody writes 198 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: fuck him and you in response to Amazon for just 199 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: posting something about the show. When somebody says Jeremiah has 200 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: such a punishable face, When somebody says he needs to die, 201 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: I'm so serious, what episode does he die? 202 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 2: Now? 203 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: Again? Is it all? It's just this is just how 204 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: people talk online. Yeah, that might be true, and we 205 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: so desensitize now to this that this is no big deal. 206 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 2: Well, I wonder too, when you know, we talk about 207 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 2: no one wants obviously we have First Amendment rights and 208 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 2: no one wants to curtail speech, but when it threatens 209 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 2: violence and when it proposes violence. I saw one where 210 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 2: they were talking about, hey, can one of the episodes 211 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 2: be written in where each character gets to punch Jeremiah 212 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 2: in the face? And can I get in line too? 213 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: That's wrong? 214 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: You know, I wonder at what point is it actionable? 215 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 2: You know, because you cannot threaten violence, you cannot incite violence. 216 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 2: That is when free speech ends again. 217 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: But we're still talking about them suggesting violence on a 218 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: fictional show. Now, my suggest my question is that still 219 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: a problem? What you just relay there? If we have 220 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: that mindset, and does that eventually bleed over into the 221 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: real world. 222 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 2: Hopefully not, probably not, But you can't say that it 223 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 2: wouldn't in an isolated moment with the right person when 224 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 2: I say the right person the wrong person at the 225 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 2: right time. Like you, just if you're that actor, if 226 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 2: you're Gavin, would. 227 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: You want to be in a crowd of people? Would 228 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: you want to be in front of thousands or something 229 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: having an event and one person says something and cites 230 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: something in some way? Would you want to be in 231 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: that and think that this kid could be Again, there's 232 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: no suggestion that his safety, any of their safety right 233 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 1: now is threatened. But he spoke on this stuff. Amazon 234 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: puts something out they are addressing and taking it seriously 235 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: enough that they are speaking on it, then it must 236 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: be that serious. 237 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. Amazon, the official post did they put on x 238 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 2: This was their community guidelines as season three was starting. 239 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 2: They said, we have a zero tolerance policy for bullying 240 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 2: and hate speech. If you engage in any of the 241 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 2: following you will be banned hate speech, for bullying, targeting 242 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 2: are cast or crew, harassing or doxing members of this community. Wow, 243 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 2: it speaks volumes. 244 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: But it's good too. I guess it's almost as if 245 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: Robes does every show. Certainly every reality show has to 246 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: put that out before a new season comes out. Love 247 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: Island just did it, and it got attention. 248 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 2: But I feel like that's fairly new though. I mean, 249 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 2: the Love Island thing was a big deal and that 250 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 2: absolutely happened. And I understand to an extent because these 251 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 2: are actually real people portraying their real selves and their 252 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 2: real lives, and so if the hate is there, the 253 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 2: hate is directed at that person, not someone they're playing. 254 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 2: So I understand that a little bit. This is well 255 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 2: because Amazon had to say, Cousins, that's the beach, right, 256 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 2: Cousins is our safe place, Everything good, everything magical. Let's 257 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 2: keep the conversation kind this summer. Yeah, they knew it 258 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 2: was gonna get ugly, but I guess it's just to 259 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: me it's different, Like it can be fun to root 260 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 2: for people to not like a character. We all do 261 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 2: that in every movie, every TV show we watch, And yes, 262 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 2: I get that in reality shows like soap operas, Oh 263 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 2: My God, My girlfriends and I again in college, would 264 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 2: root for people and not root for people. But if 265 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 2: I ever saw the actor, I would be just as 266 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 2: excited to see the person I was rooting against character 267 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 2: wise as the character I was rooting for, because I 268 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 2: understand their actors. I do think that there is language 269 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 2: that is not okay period, whether you're rooting or you know, 270 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 2: hoping someone isn't going to You can hope somebody dies 271 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: on a show. I get that that's fine, but as 272 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 2: long as it doesn't get and they don't use certain 273 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 2: words that we're seeing being used, it's that scary. 274 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: And folks will tell you the lead actress, Belly, she 275 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: gets her own share of hate, but we'll give you 276 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: her full quote that ended with this, it's not that serious. Also, 277 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 1: we'll tell you exactly what Jeremiah himself told The New 278 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: York Times. 279 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 2: Before we go to break, I have to tell you 280 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 2: about my new obsession. 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They're in Boulder, And so 299 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: while you were gone a couple of days, Bean and 300 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: I did a lot of the summer I turned pretty 301 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: watching and then you came back and she was very excited. 302 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: You wanted to put it right on, and you didn't 303 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: know all that was going on, and you looked in 304 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: all this Conrad and Jeremiah stuff, you were hilarious because 305 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: you immediately had an opinion as well. 306 00:15:55,840 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 2: Yes, I immediately was on team Conrad, like maybe, and 307 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 2: I agree, sometimes it might just be a looks thing, 308 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 2: but they're both gorgeous men, so it's nothing about like 309 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 2: both of them are hot, so to speak. But there 310 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 2: was just something about Conrad I liked more immediately. 311 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: And this is again, this is a woman who doesn't 312 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: know any about the backstory and anything you might be 313 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: upset with the character about You had none of that background. 314 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: You just looked immediately and reacted. 315 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 2: And honestly, it was hearing them talk, hearing them just 316 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 2: I gave it about five minutes and then I was like, oh, yeah, 317 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 2: I'm completely team Conrad, like without it out. 318 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: That's just your lane and that's fine and it makes 319 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: it fun. And Savine is in his screaming at us 320 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: because she's on board. 321 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 2: With team Jeremiah. But I love that. That makes it 322 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 2: fun to watch. 323 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: But she has good logic, I thought, and her logic 324 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: was he is more into her, he is better for her. 325 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 2: He cheated on her though. 326 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: It was the what we haven't gotten to that yet. 327 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I did know that, Oh I didn't know 328 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 2: that part. 329 00:16:58,760 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: I didn't know that part. 330 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 2: And Conrad was her first love. And I think, look, 331 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 2: I do think there is something to this idea, and 332 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 2: maybe it's romanticized among women, but you've got your first love, 333 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 2: your true love, and that's the one that's the most meaningful, 334 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 2: that has the most roots, and so to cheer for 335 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,239 Speaker 2: that to return, or for cheer to cheer for that 336 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 2: to outlive some new fleeting thing fleeting And I always 337 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 2: I know the episodes I saw, and now I'm kind 338 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 2: of into it, so I'm obviously going to be watching 339 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 2: it completely. Both of my daughters are fully into it. 340 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 2: I've been hearing about this for a very long time. 341 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 2: For years now. My daughters have been talking about every time, 342 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 2: you know, we share a Netflix account, I always see 343 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 2: where they are. On the summer, I turn pretty So 344 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 2: I knew that they were huge fans of the show, 345 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 2: but I guess I just I thought it was a 346 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 2: teen thing. And then now that so beans into it, 347 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 2: we're watching it. It is fun to get into it, 348 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 2: like it's just it's it's almost like watching a sporting 349 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 2: event go that far. That's been preordained. 350 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: That's that's not go that far. Do not compare the summer. 351 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: I turned pretty. 352 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 2: March madness all over again, except for in August. Intan, 353 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 2: I did that just to get a reaction. 354 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: Out of here. Yeah, you got one. But the kid 355 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: keep only the kid. It's grown ass man. Yes, he 356 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: still play young people on this show. 357 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 2: But twenty five years old. 358 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, Gavin sat again. 359 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 2: Wait, I don't have it in front of me. I 360 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 2: have to look at it to be able to Cassolinio. 361 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 2: Gavin Cassolino twenty five years old, married, by the way, 362 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 2: which I did not know. Yeah, newly married, and has 363 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 2: apparently been traveling in Indonesia and Thailand all summer, and 364 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 2: he says he hasn't even watched an episode. 365 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 1: Good for him, do you believe that? 366 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you've been traveling around. And also he said, 367 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 2: I already lived it, I already acted it, I already 368 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 2: know the scripts. I don't need to watch it again. 369 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 2: I think a lot of actors are. It's hard for 370 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 2: them to watch themselves period because they get critical and 371 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 2: they start overthinking things. So that could also be a 372 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 2: reason why. But I think he knows and is very 373 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 2: much aware of the hate online, and it probably might 374 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 2: be good for mental health and continued career success to 375 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 2: take a step back from that and to just live 376 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 2: your life as a human being. 377 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: That's too that's too bad. You played a character people 378 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: don't like, so why should that translate to people not 379 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 1: liking you? And to your point as well, I believe 380 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: him as well when he says he hasn't been watching 381 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: because we and look, we've been in an industry on 382 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: television a long time. Never went back and try to watch, 383 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: never went back and watch. 384 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 2: The only reason I have ever gone back and watched, 385 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 2: which I have, is to critique myself, to learn how 386 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:37,479 Speaker 2: to be better, how to do better, how to not 387 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 2: make mistakes. So I have watched myself, but it's been difficult, 388 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 2: and it's almost been mandatory. It's not been enjoyable or 389 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 2: entertaining in any way. So I get that as well. 390 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: So good again, good for him. But he said I 391 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: thought it was interesting the way he put this about 392 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,719 Speaker 1: the things and coming his way. So I don't think 393 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: there's a single human being in the world who can 394 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: carry the emotional negativity to the degree that stuff like 395 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: this happens. And I think that's why Amazon did a 396 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: good job of stepping in and being like, hey, no bullying, 397 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: though not really going so well. It's this idea like 398 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: who can who can bear this? 399 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 2: No one because people think it's all funny, and it 400 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 2: might be to an extent. And he did say that 401 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 2: what he has seen is comical. He said, his sister 402 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 2: sends him memes, some of the funniest memes. So I'm 403 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 2: thinking maybe like what Delta did, like he saw. He 404 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 2: probably saw what Delta did and thought that was funny, 405 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 2: Like that looks good, funny. 406 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: It's like she can filter things out and hey, check 407 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: this one out. 408 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 2: This one's funny, this one's in good spirit. And so 409 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 2: it is about the character, it's not about him and 410 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 2: so and I would laugh at that too. So, yes, 411 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 2: when you some people have to play the wicked Witch 412 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 2: of the West or the evil stepmother, and those are 413 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 2: actually really fun roles to play. Playing the good guy's 414 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 2: actually really boring. So you can lean into that and 415 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 2: enjoy all of that. It's just when it gets scary 416 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 2: and mean and threatening that it changes. But he did 417 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 2: say for the most part, he finds all the hate 418 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 2: comical that people are that invested that they care that much. 419 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 2: But he can say that because he's not reading the comments, 420 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 2: which is super smart and would encourage him to continue 421 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 2: with that practice because that is the only way forward. 422 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: I'm sitting, I'm trying to think of a character that 423 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 1: I've hated so much on a show or in a 424 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: movie that I would if I ran into that actor 425 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: on the street. 426 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's different. 427 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: How could I feel any negative thing towards them? 428 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 2: For we interviewed Freddy Krueger, So I think that to me, 429 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 2: like it's funny, like I love well, I loved the actor, 430 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 2: Thanks Freddy Krueger. But yeah, I find it so. 431 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 1: Fun villain somebody you hated. So I'm not even a 432 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: Monster type things, at least off somebody character Like I'm 433 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: even thinking about Billy Bob Thornton in Monster right now. 434 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about like. 435 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 2: Just maybe the guy who does it puts the lousier 436 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 2: to the desk, afraid of love that actor, But that's true, 437 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I'm trying to think of somebody. 438 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: Who have you been turned off so much as a character, 439 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: just the character that it would translate to the actor. 440 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: I hate some characters. 441 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 2: I can't think of somebody were I wouldn't be able 442 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 2: to be just as excited to meet that actor because 443 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 2: they elicited a certain feeling from me, like I think, wow, 444 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 2: you're a very good actor. If you can make me 445 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 2: hate you so much in the movie, I want to 446 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 2: know who you are and how amazing you are, because 447 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 2: obviously you're a phenomenal actor. 448 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 1: We should try to come up with somebody. But also 449 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: Lola toongue the young lady that plays Belly. These were 450 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: her comments as well in a previous interview, saying, when 451 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: people have an attachment to the characters, they want to 452 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 1: see it come together at the end. I'm so grateful 453 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: they care so much. But people get a little scary 454 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: about it. 455 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, I mean, and maybe that's the right way 456 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 2: to put it. They get a little scary, Like you 457 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 2: don't know how scary it is until it actually becomes scary. 458 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 2: But I do appreciate her other comment that she did, 459 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 2: or the rabid fans out there of this show to 460 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 2: adhere to. Please don't threaten to kill someone if something 461 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 2: doesn't go your way. I promise you it's not that serious. 462 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 2: And ain't that the truth. It's not that serious. 463 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: You have to say that is scary. 464 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 2: And they may be anticipating. So here's the deal. I 465 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 2: won't give the spoiler because I looked it up of 466 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 2: how the book ends, and I think a lot of 467 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 2: people know how the book ends. 468 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: Well I don't know, but. 469 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 2: No, But here's the deal. The author of these books, 470 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 2: who's been working with the she even had a cameo 471 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 2: in one of the a couple cameos I think, in 472 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 2: some of the episodes. But she has said that she 473 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 2: has specifically been open to is how she put it, 474 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 2: not having it end the same way as the books. 475 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 2: So she's put it out there that the way the 476 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 2: show ends might not be how the books end. So 477 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 2: everyone is on the edge of their seats to see 478 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 2: who Belly will end up with, even if you've read 479 00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 2: the books. 480 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: All right, so it's up in the air, folks. All right, 481 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: we are clearly into this. I cannot believe in the 482 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: past four days, I've done two episodes on the summer. 483 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 2: I turn pretty there's gonna be a few more, hunt. 484 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure it. 485 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: Means it's a good show. So as always, we appreciate 486 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: you hanging with Austin. If you all come up with 487 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: a character that you hated so much on screen that 488 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: you think it would actually translate to that real life actor. 489 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 2: We'll try to think of it too. It could be 490 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 2: another episode. But in the meantime, everyone, thank you for 491 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 2: listening to us. I made me Robock alongside t. Jhilmes. 492 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 2: Have a great day.