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Speaker 8: boxes lead the tidy whites alone.

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Speaker 6: Old people.

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Speaker 4: I guess that's what it is.

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Speaker 7: One leg in, one leg out.

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Speaker 4: We had some voicemails. Just get to these real quick.

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Speaker 9: Hello, n Hey, this is Tom. This is not so

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Speaker 9: much necessarily for the show, but I was listening. I'm

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Speaker 9: still listening to episode eleven ninety three and I'm at

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Speaker 9: the beginning part where I just listen to Karen speaks

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Speaker 9: so highly of your mother and speaks on your knees, Laila,

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Speaker 9: and to touch my heart so that I felt that

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Speaker 9: I had to call. I mean, giving her the talk

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Speaker 9: and letting her talk and express herself and letting her

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Speaker 9: know that she can be anything she wants to be

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Speaker 9: in this world. Once again, that's just touched my heart

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Speaker 9: to the point where I've never called again or anything

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Speaker 9: like that. That I just want to say, bravo to YouTube.

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Speaker 9: Listening to you two guys just such a positive, aspiring

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Speaker 9: thing that you guys just keep on doing what you're doing.

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Speaker 9: You're touching many people across the world, myself here in

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Speaker 9: Washington State. Uh, I just show you that as a

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Speaker 9: good soul. Uh, there's one two feeling inside today listening

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Speaker 9: to Karns speak so passionately about self confidence, especially in.

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Speaker 10: The young African American female. So want for getting people.

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Speaker 10: Kudos to you guys. Just keep on keeping on what

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Speaker 10: we're doing, and uh, I will continue to listen. God

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Speaker 10: bless and I'll holler.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, sweetie.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate you, man, thank you for calling in

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Speaker 3: and uh yeah, man, it's no problem. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 3: touch a lot of people. We had a lot of

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Speaker 3: people commenting about that on the Twitter and and and

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Speaker 3: the social media and stuff. A lot of people, uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, found something in Karen's words and stuff.

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Speaker 4: And like I said, y'all welcome.

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Speaker 3: You know, I just do what I can to inspire

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Speaker 3: all people to get the best out of each other

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Speaker 3: and really go out and and and you know, really

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Speaker 3: be a positive influence to other people. So each one

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Speaker 3: is what I say.

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Speaker 11: Next voicemail, Hi, Karen and Rod, this is Shana. I

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Speaker 11: just want to say I love you guys. You guys

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Speaker 11: do amazing stuff on your podcast. And wow, little speechless,

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Speaker 11: but I think I'm a little late on leaving some feedback.

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Speaker 11: But I believe earlier this week or last week, you

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Speaker 11: mentioned that Underground was getting renewed for season two, and

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Speaker 11: that was great news for me. I'm loving that show.

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Speaker 11: And one of the things I really like about it

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Speaker 11: is that the abolitionists and his wife they're not front

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Speaker 11: and center. They're part of the story, but they're not

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Speaker 11: the center of the story. And I believe if this

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Speaker 11: show were made, I don't know, by an all white

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Speaker 11: crew creators, then they would have been at front and center,

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Speaker 11: and Rosalie, Ernestine Noah, they would have been the supporting cast,

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Speaker 11: and that would have been a shame, which brings me

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Speaker 11: to another thing I noticed this week. I started seeing

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Speaker 11: advertisements for the movie called Free State of Jones, starring

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Speaker 11: Matthew McConaughey, and I looked at pictures, read the story,

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Speaker 11: and it was supposed to come out this week, but

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Speaker 11: I believe it got moved to be released right before

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Speaker 11: fourth of July. My thoughts were, Oh, here we go,

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Speaker 11: big summer blockbuster, lots of money behind it, a list

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Speaker 11: actor playing white savior, and another one, and I far

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Speaker 11: show this movie will probably get some Academy Award nominations.

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Speaker 11: Matthew McConaughey probably get a nomination, of course, and it

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Speaker 11: bums me out. I mean, abolitionists, their stories are important,

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Speaker 11: but there's so many other stories I would like to

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Speaker 11: see I mean the Anthony Johnson's, the Phyllis Wheatley's Friedrich Douglas.

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Speaker 11: I mean Sally Hemmings. I think Sandy Newton played Sally

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Speaker 11: Hemmings for a TV movie a long time ago, and.

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Speaker 3: That was it.

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Speaker 11: I want to see some good movies about these people

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Speaker 11: come out. And I'm excited about the Nat Turner movie

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Speaker 11: coming up. I don't know what kind of theatrical release

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Speaker 11: you'll get. I'm hoping it'll get a lot of advertising

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Speaker 11: so lots of people go out and see it. I'm hoping.

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Speaker 11: But anyway, I'm sorry that I guess I really didn't

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Speaker 11: have a question. That was kind of more of a rent.

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Speaker 11: But I love you, guys, and thanks for doing what

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Speaker 11: you do. Take care.

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Speaker 4: Oh, thank you, appreciate you.

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Speaker 7: Shanna.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I saw the trailer for Free State of Jones.

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Speaker 4: Have you seen it? Can?

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Speaker 6: I think I have?

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Speaker 7: But you can play I think I have.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you want to play it, Okay, give me a second.

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Speaker 3: I'll try to play it for you. But I saw

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Speaker 3: this in the movies the other day and I'm not

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Speaker 3: gonna lie. I started laughing because it felt so and

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's not a true story or whatever.

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Speaker 3: But it just felt so ridiculous to pick this story

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Speaker 3: as a story worth telling because it's like about a

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Speaker 3: Confederate soldier who gets fed up with the bureaucracy of

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Speaker 3: the South and how they're taking the money and they're

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Speaker 3: losing the war, and he decides to like establish his

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Speaker 3: own uh there we go, his own town or whatever.

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Speaker 4: All right, here we go.

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Speaker 6: People.

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Speaker 3: So he's Matthew kind of he's talking to his son

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Speaker 3: and they're about to go into battle, so obviously about

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Speaker 3: to probably die. Anyone who followed Civil War like a

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Speaker 3: little bit.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 3: Obviously the South lost, but the South like had little

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Speaker 3: boys fighting, when they had people with those shoes fighting,

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Speaker 3: I mean, they exhausted everything, and it was mostly a

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Speaker 3: war of poor farmers fighting for the interest of rich

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Speaker 3: Southern slave owners who wanted to keep it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, but this goes on today to this day.

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Speaker 3: You still have poor white people fighting against their best

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Speaker 3: interest to protect rich white people. It's just the the

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Speaker 3: uh unifying cause of whiteness. Sometimes Trump's logic, you know,

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Speaker 3: and I'm sure it works that way in other situations

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Speaker 3: sometimes as well with other races. But for white people

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Speaker 3: in this country that has always been a thing where

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Speaker 3: if you set them down and say what what are

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Speaker 3: your gripes in this country? And what and then say, okay,

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Speaker 3: now what actually affects your life?

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Speaker 4: You'll find that.

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Speaker 3: The vast majority of these people that have these gripes,

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Speaker 3: like I'm tired of welfare, and I'm tired of that.

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Speaker 4: It's like what you need welfare, but you need unemployment.

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Speaker 3: But you need like you know, but my but I'm

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Speaker 3: different because I'm white.

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Speaker 4: God, so.

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Speaker 2: The sun dies, I'm tired of it, You me, all

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Speaker 2: of us, we'll all have fir dive so they can

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Speaker 2: stay rich.

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Speaker 3: So he's telling the poor Southerners like, these rich people

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Speaker 3: are kept getting us killed and they don't give a

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Speaker 3: fuck about us.

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Speaker 7: Text allctus coming around here taking everything. Nothing for the women.

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Speaker 3: The Confederate debt collectors take all the ship from the

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Speaker 3: poor Confederates.

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Speaker 4: Girls. You're how to shoot one of these.

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Speaker 10: It's quiet norm when you've got there.

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Speaker 3: So he teaches his women how to shoot, so that

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Speaker 3: these women how to shoot the whole guns and shoot

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Speaker 3: so that the debt collector can't take all the ship

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Speaker 3: no more.

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Speaker 2: Last time I checked.

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Speaker 8: The gun don't care.

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Speaker 2: It's pool and triasy.

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Speaker 4: You know, the shoot deserved or don't it?

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Speaker 10: So they runaways.

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Speaker 3: Uh my girl google inbout through raw she her find

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Speaker 3: herself up in here.

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Speaker 4: Probably gonna be his love interest.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna die.

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Speaker 4: They can get rich to sell the cabinet that's where

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Speaker 4: we lived.

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Speaker 3: He hanging out with some black people that's clearly slave,

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Speaker 3: and he's having to sit down at dinner with him.

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Speaker 2: No, man, I'll tell another man what he's got to

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Speaker 2: live for or what he's got to die for.

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Speaker 3: I don't have the patience with five or six reserves

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Speaker 3: hiding out in the swamp.

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Speaker 4: You ready, just hang him?

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Speaker 8: Now?

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Speaker 3: It looks like the black people he helped that were

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Speaker 3: helping him ambush these these northerns or these Confederate soldiers

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Speaker 3: got hung, got caught. Yeah, so I guess h typical

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Speaker 3: black people die. So the white person's story furthers along

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Speaker 3: turning point.

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Speaker 12: See anything.

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Speaker 4: He's out there, they won't miss this. Oh no, I've

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Speaker 4: just seen some of them black people. They still lives.

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Speaker 6: So it must have hung somebody.

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Speaker 3: They must have hung some of the lesser black people,

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Speaker 3: like the no ones that ain't have wines.

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Speaker 4: The spice for our children and their children's children.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it looked like him and Google had a baby,

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Speaker 3: so I guess that is his love interest. So he

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Speaker 3: was so open minded that he married a black woman.

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Speaker 1: And it stay fault.

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Speaker 6: We declared the land north of the past Googla Swamp to

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Speaker 6: be a.

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Speaker 4: Free state of Jones.

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Speaker 12: The food farmers deserters who frankly, sir, don't have much

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Speaker 12: to do, so let's talk about how they all fought one.

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Speaker 3: And it's now showing white people and black people and

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Speaker 3: women are all holding guns shooting at people, and.

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Speaker 12: You cares out at this time.

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Speaker 4: That's plenty eleven five. So yeah, they moved us to June.

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Speaker 4: I mean obviously this weekend.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they moved decision and.

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Speaker 7: Was like, oh did somebody not Oh y'all better move

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Speaker 7: that ship. Y'all didn't tell us that civil war was

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Speaker 7: coming out. Who made this era?

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Speaker 8: You know, somebody at the at the at the the

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Speaker 8: place was panicking.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they moved it.

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Speaker 3: It's directed by Gary Ross, who, let's see it is

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Speaker 3: a white dude who directed uh Pleasantville Sea Biscuit. Oh

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Speaker 3: he wrote those Uh what did he direct Hunger Games casting? Okay,

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Speaker 3: so he directed the Hunger Games in twenty twelve. Uh,

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Speaker 3: Sea Biscuit and Pleasureville, those are his movies.

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Speaker 8: I've seen Hunger Games. I ain't see Sea Biscuit. That's

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Speaker 8: about that horse, I think it is. Now let's be

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Speaker 8: talking about the real Sea Biscuit.

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Speaker 4: Now that's about that horse.

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Speaker 6: Okay.

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Speaker 3: So and it's written by Leonard Hartman and Gary Wright

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Speaker 3: Ross who's the director. Let me see what Leonard who?

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Speaker 3: Leonard Hartman is so a white dude. So yeah, man,

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be white centric. This is the story they

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Speaker 3: chose to tell. It's a very white dude. It just

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Speaker 3: happened to happening at that time.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure it'll have tales of how everybody got over

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Speaker 3: racism and came together and shit like that, and we'll see.

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Speaker 3: I actually kind of want to see it because I

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Speaker 3: think it's gonna be. Like I said, I laughed at

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Speaker 3: the trailer because I just thought it was such a

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Speaker 3: so tone deaf and ridiculous that this even got made.

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Speaker 8: But yeah, it's like, are y'all really gonna talk about

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Speaker 8: the racis shit and we're just gonna gloss over it

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Speaker 8: and go where he got?

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Speaker 3: It has that feeling like it's gonna be one of those,

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Speaker 3: uh against the one percent, you know, Like, isn't money

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Speaker 3: the real problem, not slavery and read and racism, And

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Speaker 3: we can combine at the fact that these rich people

664
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Speaker 3: are trying to oppress us, and that's gonna be his thing,

665
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 3: is my guess. So we'll see, we'll see what happens.

666
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, she's right, he gonna get the wards for that one.

667
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 4: And I'm sure he's gonna be super open minded, you

668
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 4: know what I mean minded.

669
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 3: I had sex with a black woman, so I know

670
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 3: the struggle. Anyway, here's a last voicemail.

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Speaker 13: Hey Rod, Hey Karen, it's Les sam Act from the

672
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 13: International John I will say to give you a quick

673
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 13: call to talk about a few things from the show

674
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 13: this week. The first was Ashley Shackleford's Lemonade think piece,

675
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 13: where she was talking about fat black fems and women

676
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 13: not being or her feeling that they were not included

677
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 13: in the visuals of Lemonade. And I actually don't want

678
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 13: to discuss the details of the piece itself, because it

679
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 13: is what it is, and people can identify with it

680
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 13: or not identify with it, or with it or not

681
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 13: agree with it. But that's besides the point. Well, I

682
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 13: was really struck by was the response to her peace,

683
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 13: which turned really ugly and started, you know, a bunch

684
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 13: of knee jerk fat shaming of black women on Twitter anyways,

685
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 13: from a lot of people, and it was really disheartening

686
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 13: to see, especially because you know, if we are in

687
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 13: agreement that Lemonade, in all of its glory is you know,

688
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 13: something that is for black women, then it's really sad

689
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 13: to see the opinions of black women not just dismissed,

690
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 13: which is one thing, but to see them ridiculed for

691
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 13: expressing it is really disheartening, and especially like in the

692
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Speaker 13: name of Beyonce, who has identified herself as a feminist,

693
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 13: And it just doesn't make any sense to me. And

694
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 13: I was really disappointed to see it. But you know,

695
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 13: I know the beehive is difficult, but it just seemed

696
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 13: to me that the slant that it took immediately with

697
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 13: the fat shaming kind of, you know, bolstered Ashley's point

698
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 13: about representation of fat fems in our culture and what

699
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 13: that looks like. So anyways, that was just one thought.

700
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 13: The second thing, of course, is that Civil War. I

701
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 13: don't even know what to say about it. I know,

702
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 13: Rod and I tweeted a little bit about it yesterday.

703
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 13: But the more I think about the movie, the more

704
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 13: struck I am by how this phase, now that we're

705
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 13: seeing it unfold, is this other level of cohesion and

706
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 13: storytelling that I almost feel like there were three movies

707
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 13: in that movie. I mean, it was almost three hours,

708
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 13: and I swear it ended too soon for me. It

709
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 13: was over and I was like, what that's it? And

710
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 13: I couldn't believe what time it was. And so I'm

711
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 13: curious to hear it, Rod if you agree with that

712
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 13: this complexity and how we're getting all of these smaller

713
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 13: storylines with so little screen time in each movie, but

714
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 13: put together, they're creating, you know, a really deep depth

715
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 13: to all of these characters, where you can have ant

716
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 13: Man in a movie like Civil Wars for not that

717
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 13: long and you still get a lot from whatever time

718
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 13: he's spent there. And also just to hear what your

719
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 13: thoughts were on the introduction of the new Spider Man

720
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 13: in the Marvel universe and what you thought about that.

721
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 13: Drew and I did not agree, so I'm curious to

722
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 13: hear what you guys thought. Anyways, have a great weekend,

723
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 13: have a great show, and I will talk to you guys.

724
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Speaker 8: Soon bye all right, thank you, Leslie, bye bye sweetie.

725
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Speaker 3: First of all, on the fat shaving shit, Uh, what's

726
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 3: whack to me is that Beyonce wouldn't want that, right,

727
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 3: so anybody that That's why I said exactly what I

728
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 3: said when we read the piece, which is that I think, I, well,

729
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 3: I don't relate to art in the way that she

730
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 3: relates to the art. So like my view, representation hasn't

731
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 3: gotten to the point where I'm like, well, there wasn't

732
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 3: no fat black dudes in this, you know what I mean.

733
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 3: I'm just not personally and I wouldn't even feel like

734
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 3: if if there was, I don't know that I would

735
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 3: get a specific feeling of, well, that person represents me. Now,

736
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 3: some people do, and that's just what it is. And

737
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 3: people that make our already know that. So if people

738
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 3: felt left out, I understand that they felt left out,

739
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 3: and you know it's the artist already out. There is

740
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 3: nothing that can be done about it now, you know.

741
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,959
Speaker 3: But they they you know, they get to speak their peace,

742
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 3: and I don't know why anybody would be against that.

743
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 4: Right.

744
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 3: The thing that that was that sucks is that she

745
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 3: was right about some of the clap back that she

746
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 3: would get and some of the response she would get.

747
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 3: And I don't think people should attribute it to the

748
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 3: beehive because honestly, the more I think about it, I

749
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 3: think the beehive is a fictional thing. People only say

750
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 3: that beehive shit when they want to talk bad about

751
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 3: basically black women that don't agree with something like that,

752
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 3: Like the beehive then becomes a thing.

753
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 4: But when it whenever.

754
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 3: Everybody's like, oh I love this, or you say something

755
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 3: about Beyonce, someone disagrees with you, part of the behive

756
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 3: now and that's and it's fucked up.

757
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 4: But that's how people do it.

758
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 3: Like if I'm on Twitter and I say something like, oh,

759
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 3: Beyonce is an idiot, and then you come in and say,

760
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 3: what the fuck Manda da da da, Then all of

761
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 3: a sudden, I'm just well, here go to beehive acting stupid.

762
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 4: So I don't like putting that shit on the beehive.

763
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 4: There's just some.

764
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 3: People who act stupid and it's around Beyonce And I

765
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 3: don't know how you separate that from the beehive or not.

766
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 3: I just think there's some people that they act stupid

767
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 3: all day, every day anyway, and it might not be

768
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 3: about Beyonce, but it'd be about something.

769
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 4: That being said.

770
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Speaker 3: If you're fat shaving people, you're probably not very much

771
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 3: a Beyonce fan the first place, correct, because that's not

772
00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 3: a tenant.

773
00:39:58,680 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 4: Of the things that she promotes.

774
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 3: Like, so, you know, it's just kind of fucked up

775
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 3: that people would even do something like that. And that's

776
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 3: sad that she got that response because she knew she

777
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 3: would get that response, which is why I didn't want

778
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 3: to add to it, which is why I was specific

779
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 3: and saying, yeah, I just don't have to care like like,

780
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 3: and I don't mean that in the I want to

781
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 3: offend you by saying I don't care. I just mean

782
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 3: it in a straight up like It's completely fine for

783
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,240
Speaker 3: me to read this piece and go, that's her issue.

784
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 3: I understand it. Yeah, it's a valid issue. I still

785
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 3: enjoy this thing knowing that she has an issue with it.

786
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 8: Right, I'm not dismissing no argument. I'm not dismissing a

787
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 8: point for me. I took it for what it was.

788
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 8: And just like she has the right to say I

789
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 8: feel this way, I have the right to say, well

790
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 8: I feel this way, Okay, cool, and everybody can go

791
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 8: their separate ways. Ain't no fat shaming, Ain't no I'm

792
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 8: better than you. Ain't no calling hero out her name.

793
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 8: Like that's what the line is crossed in my opinion.

794
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't need to devolve into insults.

795
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 3: And like I said, I can think of of many

796
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 3: different other types of people that can write a similar

797
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 3: piece and they be just as valid to say I

798
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 3: didn't feel represented in this piece. You know, one artist

799
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:14,720
Speaker 3: can only do so much. But you know, but that's

800
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 3: but that's on her and if and if she looks

801
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 3: for that and everything, or she doesn't look for that

802
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 3: in anything, that's totally on her too.

803
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 4: Like some people are like, well do you look at

804
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 4: Rihanna like that?

805
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 3: Hey, I don't know what she does, you know what

806
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,280
Speaker 3: I mean, she can do whatever she wants with her critigue.

807
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 4: That's that's just the Internet. That's part of life.

808
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 7: You know.

809
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 3: There's every time someone makes a joke that somebody writing

810
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 3: a blog about why they don't like the joke. It's

811
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:38,240
Speaker 3: you know, it's.

812
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 4: Gonna be fine.

813
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 3: As far as the Marvel stuff, I don't want to

814
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 3: get too spoilery, but I'll just say I think they

815
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:48,479
Speaker 3: did a great job. And obviously having Kevin fee Over

816
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 3: in charge of that has really helped everybody. We talked

817
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 3: about it on the Nerd Off yesterday I had Sterling,

818
00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 3: Aaron and Chris On and we talked about it a

819
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 3: little bit more in depth there, especially compared to DC,

820
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 3: and also when Karen and I did a review of it,

821
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 3: a small review of it the night we saw it,

822
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 3: and we kind of went into detail on all that

823
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 3: stuff you talked about. But yeah, I mean it's just

824
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 3: a great product. What they're doing and turning these Captain

825
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 3: America movies into basically Avengers three type of you know,

826
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 3: Avengers Extra extended. It has been a really really smart

827
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 3: move by them.

828
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's really been a fun riding.

829
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 8: It's one of those things where I feel as though

830
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 8: Marvel is doing a good job of rewarding people for

831
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 8: watching the movies. And they also say, if you ain't

832
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 8: watched it, fuck it. We are not re explaining every time,

833
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 8: we are not catching you up.

834
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 6: If you jump in it move No.

835
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Speaker 7: Fifteen and you lost this as your.

836
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 8: Fault, and I like that you ain't got the recap

837
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 8: every single time you start.

838
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I enjoyed everything about the movie. I thought it

839
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 3: was perfect and obviously My favorite thing was to Challa.

840
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 4: Man, it was just great. I was actually I went

841
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 4: to the gym.

842
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 3: I played ball with Justin and my friend Damon today

843
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 3: and me and Damon have seen the movie, so we

844
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 3: was just spitting to Challa bars at each other on

845
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 3: the way into the gym.

846
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 4: You know, we was just making it.

847
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 3: You know, I was just trying to do my T'challah impression.

848
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 3: I don't care as a warrior and a king, how

849
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 3: will you keep him from me or some shit like.

850
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 3: We was just having a good time. So anyway, I'll

851
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 3: be saying that shit forever. I got definitely going to

852
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 3: see it again. Oh yeah, all right. We got a

853
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 3: couple of.

854
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 4: Emails. Oh shit, this one was for the pre game.

855
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 3: I don't even know where I would keep this, so

856
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,479
Speaker 3: I gotta find a way to because Justin ain't gonna

857
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:52,959
Speaker 3: hear this anyway. Pre Game episode thirty eight, Brandy Wright saying,

858
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 3: what are Rod Caring and Jay Darden? The pre game

859
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 3: is just as great, if not better than actual balls

860
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 3: deep about the same amount of sports discussed, Lol, no disrespect.

861
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 3: I just want to say thanks for recapping shows that

862
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 3: I don't even watch. Your recaps sound better than the shows.

863
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 3: I did watch the first episode of Underground and Nigga

864
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 3: never would have made it. Lo L will definitely be

865
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 3: catching up on those for sure. Still haven't seen that

866
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 3: Juice hit, but Welcome to Hating Niggas with Mark Furman

867
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 3: was classic, lo L. You think the heat that have

868
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 3: a great panel on When America was really great.

869
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, we got to do a recap on that one,

870
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 8: but yeah, that's the ship.

871
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 3: Look, yeah, I think I said Fox should hire Mark

872
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Speaker 3: Fermi to do hate Welcome to Hate Niggas called hate Niggas,

873
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Speaker 3: Hate Niggas with Mark Fermant. You seen this black lives

874
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Speaker 3: matter of shit, but just him every year week being

875
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Speaker 3: mad about some shit. Larry will welcome Welcome Back to

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Speaker 3: Hate Niggas with Mark Ferman, Larry Willmore come on right am,

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Speaker 3: All right, guys, just Kandel white men shaking their head Lol.

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Speaker 3: I can see the days now. Up to my left

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Speaker 3: we got Bill o'readley say hi, Bill, Hi niggers. To

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Speaker 3: my right, we got Rudy Giuliani say hi, Rudy. You

881
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Speaker 3: know if these niggas would respect the police, all right, Rudy,

882
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Speaker 3: settle down, save it for the show at today's folks,

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Speaker 3: we have a special guest with us who needs no introduction.

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Speaker 4: The Great White Man has a long track record of

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Speaker 4: hating them niggas.

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Speaker 3: Please give a white power full hand clap to David

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Speaker 3: Duke everyone.

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Speaker 4: He said.

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Speaker 3: Also lol, Ross kar dashing Enough said Lol. Don't let

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Speaker 3: Fox News see this. They may make it happen right again.

891
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Speaker 3: Sorry for the delayed email, but keep the pre games coming.

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Speaker 9: We will.

893
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Speaker 8: Man.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, we didn't read that on the pregame. That's my bad.

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Speaker 4: Don't have a pregame folder and create one. Nina Wright saying, Hi, Karen,

896
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Speaker 4: It's called Hot Attack episode. Karen.

897
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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm listening to this episode as I write this,

898
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 3: and you were talking about the encouragement you received growing up.

899
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Speaker 3: I'm at work and I had to stop and write

900
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 3: this email. It's as if you are telling the story

901
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 3: of my life. I'm forty four years old and I

902
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 3: am just now learning to develo my selves. I have

903
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 3: no kids, never wanted them, and have no huge obstacles

904
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Speaker 3: that will kept me from growing, except for the fact

905
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 3: that I'm surrounded by family friends who either told me

906
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 3: straight up that I wasn't good enough or to be

907
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Speaker 3: whatever I was that I chose, or was simply silent

908
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 3: when they heard others tell me that I'm realizing that

909
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 3: the being stagnant and floundering in life, that I can

910
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Speaker 3: actually be the artist that I am. But it's a

911
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 3: lot of work to keep reminding myself how worthy I am.

912
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 3: I realize that all the negativity caused me to live

913
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Speaker 3: at least half of my life depressed, honey, Like.

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Speaker 8: I said, because I've lived that life and I understand

915
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 8: it is as a child, it's easier to grow and

916
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 8: developing things like that. Once you become an adult, you

917
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 8: become stuck in your ways and breaking those walls and stuff.

918
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,280
Speaker 8: It becomes hard because you have a As an adult,

919
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 8: you have a routine, you have a pattern, you have

920
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 8: these things that are structured in your life. And as

921
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 8: an adult, it's harder for change, not more app the

922
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 8: more flexible the change than adults are. Even though adults

923
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 8: try to act like they are, most adults are very

924
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Speaker 8: stubborn when it comes to change, and with something like this,

925
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:13,280
Speaker 8: it literally causes a personality change, and that's very hard

926
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Speaker 8: to do because you almost have to change the foundation

927
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Speaker 8: and the root of who you are, and a lot

928
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Speaker 8: of the foundation and the root of who most people

929
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 8: are stems from family. Most of your life choices and

930
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Speaker 8: life decisions and everything.

931
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Speaker 6: You do in life stems from your family.

932
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Speaker 8: So if you've had situations where so just there's a

933
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Speaker 8: lot of fucked up shit that happened a lot of times,

934
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Speaker 8: it's very hard for you to resist and fight against

935
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 8: that because a lot of times your family will tell

936
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 8: you indirectly directly by the actions, by their words, by

937
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 8: their silence, and all kinds of ways that almost this

938
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Speaker 8: is what you're gonna become. And it's one of those

939
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Speaker 8: things where you have to make up in your mind

940
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Speaker 8: that that that this right here, I'm not dealing with

941
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 8: this because this right here affected my life. And once

942
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 8: you get to the point where you've made a choice

943
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Speaker 8: and you've made a decision that my life as of

944
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 8: today will never be the same. And it's very hardest

945
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Speaker 8: the dough And I know people think it's silly to

946
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 8: do little exercises, but something I know I had to

947
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Speaker 8: get to get to the point where I am now,

948
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Speaker 8: I had to.

949
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Speaker 6: Do little exercises. Like I said before, look in.

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Speaker 8: The mirror and say I'm beautiful, look at myself and

951
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 8: say I'm worthy. When the negative doubts come to my mind,

952
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 8: which which they will? You know, just be like, I'm

953
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 8: not trying to hear that today. And a lot of

954
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 8: times it me separating yourself from family and friends and

955
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,280
Speaker 8: getting around people that are very positive and like minded

956
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 8: and people that are want you to achieve your hopes

957
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 8: and your dreams, and your life will change. And I

958
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 8: know that that's not easy. I know it can't be

959
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Speaker 8: done overnight. But I'm telling you right now, if you

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Speaker 8: wanted to do the sacrifice that it takes, and once

961
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Speaker 8: you get to the other side, you be like, my

962
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Speaker 8: life is just now starting, and then that's kind of

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Speaker 8: how I feel.

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Speaker 6: And you're never too old.

965
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Speaker 7: I know some people think, well I'm too old. You're

966
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Speaker 7: never too old to change.

967
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Speaker 8: If you get to the point where you feel like

968
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Speaker 8: you cannot change, why you hear because as you grow, Oh,

969
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 8: your purpose is to constantly evolve and change as a person.

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Speaker 6: You know, that's just life.

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Speaker 3: I was on to say, like you, I had one

972
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Speaker 3: person in my life, my uncle, who actively pushed education

973
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Speaker 3: and was supportive of creative coach of my creative nature.

974
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Speaker 3: He even had applications for boarding schools for the arts

975
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Speaker 3: sent to me. I think he knew that getting out

976
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Speaker 3: of my environment would allow me to flourish. Unfortunately, the

977
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Speaker 3: other voices were louder than his, and by the time

978
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Speaker 3: I was ready to listen, he died. I was in

979
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Speaker 3: my late teens. Okay, so that was a long, grand

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Speaker 3: linggrammatically incorrect way of saying thank you for sharing that

981
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Speaker 3: part of your life. Even though I know I'm not

982
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Speaker 3: the only one out there, it feels good when someone

983
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Speaker 3: else speaks.

984
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Speaker 4: Plus, I'm at work and my boss is walking by.

985
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Speaker 3: Lol Nina d Twitter, Priscilla underscore bell, So thank you sweet?

986
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Speaker 3: All right, let's see oh film underscore esquire.

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Speaker 4: Right, Sir Olivia. Unpopular opinion.

988
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 3: The girl who broadcasts her friend's rape on periscope is

989
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Speaker 3: a hero. Okay, this girl watched her friend raped in

990
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Speaker 3: front of her and was probably sure that her own

991
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 3: rape was next. It might have been, or this man

992
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 3: might have raped her first. Imagine would you stay in

993
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Speaker 3: the room instead of taking an opportunity to flee if

994
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Speaker 3: you weren't sure you could hurt this man badly enough

995
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Speaker 3: with the first hit. Knowing your choice not to leave

996
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 3: makes it almost certain you'll be raped or raped again.

997
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Speaker 3: She didn't leave her friend alone and she still figured

998
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Speaker 3: out a way to create evidence where none would have existed.

999
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 3: Two broadcasts distress, while three not getting hurt, worse or

1000
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Speaker 3: killed by this man for attempting to call the cops. Importantly,

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Speaker 3: her lave stream stream work. The friend of there saw

1002
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Speaker 3: the video at call the cops. Almost all the stories

1003
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Speaker 3: I read portrayed Lonina the girl as a weird free

1004
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Speaker 3: who broadcasts the rape for the lows or the likes.

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Speaker 3: Prosecutor said it was for the likes, and he is

1006
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Speaker 3: the guy charging her. Oh yeah, that would make sense

1007
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 3: because the title of that was like she said she

1008
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Speaker 3: did it for the likes, and it was a quote.

1009
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 3: Oh but if it's a quote of the prosecutor, then

1010
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Speaker 3: obviously it's not a quote from her. So that's not

1011
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 3: saying that she did it for the likes. It's then

1012
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 3: an accusation, basically true. It's almost like that girl who

1013
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 3: got people wanted her charge with like murder or something

1014
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 3: for the dude who committed suicide, cause she was texting

1015
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Speaker 3: him and I was like, I don't know that you can.

1016
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 3: I don't know that that is a criminal offense necessarily,

1017
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. It's like if I told

1018
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 3: him like, man, why don't you just kill yourself? And

1019
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,399
Speaker 3: then they do it, and then the police be like, well,

1020
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Speaker 3: you going to jail for murder. He's like, whohoa, whoa.

1021
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 4: I didn't actually do shit, you know what I mean.

1022
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 3: It's not like if I said go rob that bank,

1023
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 3: I get charged you robbing a bank? You know.

1024
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 4: Anyway.

1025
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Speaker 3: Meanwhile, no article I found centers on the twenty nine

1026
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Speaker 3: year old rapist Raymond Gates. Gates met both girls at

1027
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Speaker 3: a Columbus mall for the first time the day before,

1028
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 3: brought them a bottle vaka, encouraged them to meet with

1029
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 3: him the following day. He's Russian, like them, at twice

1030
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Speaker 3: their age. He targeted these high school students. We talked

1031
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:04,399
Speaker 3: about that on the show, and I think we've even

1032
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 3: brought up like, obviously the bad guy, I quote unquote,

1033
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 3: here is a grown ass man who knew he wasn't

1034
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Speaker 3: supposed to be hanging out with these girls who are

1035
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 3: half his fucking age. What thirty year old, you know,

1036
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 3: kicking with high schoolers, you know what I mean, getting

1037
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 3: them drunk, and like he I don't even know if

1038
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 3: it was even up for debait. It was like, obviously

1039
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 3: he's a rapist and a piece of shit, and he's

1040
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 3: going to jail, at least the article presented it as such.

1041
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 3: I'm trouble about how sensationalistic in lord the reports of

1042
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Speaker 3: the story if ben Everyone seems to focus on the

1043
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 3: medium in which the break was broadcast, ignoring that if

1044
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 3: this man had never come after these girls under this

1045
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 3: would have happened. I don't know many other facts, but

1046
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 3: nobody else does either, and they all ignoring that her

1047
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 3: periscope could be extremely brave and selflessa take care of Olivia. Hey,

1048
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 3: it could be. I don't know for sure either, you

1049
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 3: know what I mean, And we would probably need to

1050
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 3: be privy the more information.

1051
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Speaker 4: To to.

1052
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 3: Know whether there's any level of guilt or innocence on

1053
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 3: her part or if it was for quote unquote likes

1054
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 3: and all that shit. We would need to hear from

1055
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 3: her and her lawyer and shit. And I mean, obviously

1056
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 3: people will probably need to see the video. I don't

1057
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 3: know if they will see the video to the jury.

1058
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 7: Right, because who knows it.

1059
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 8: You know, it's technically quote unquote it's child pulling that

1060
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Speaker 8: she was airing, which is a problem in itself even

1061
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Speaker 8: you know, even though she aired it.

1062
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Speaker 7: It's like this, look she's underage.

1063
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean but if I mean also, I

1064
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 3: don't know why if you have a phone you can't

1065
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 3: call now on one. There's just so many things there

1066
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 3: that while yeah, maybe she was thinking that forward, like

1067
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get evidence of this thing and I want

1068
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 3: to put it on the internet and stream it and

1069
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 3: that will cause uh, this dude to go to jail.

1070
00:53:55,040 --> 00:54:00,760
Speaker 3: And maybe she was thinking strictly that way, and maybe

1071
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 3: she wasn't. I don't know, you know what I mean,

1072
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Speaker 3: I would have to be in the courtroom presenting with

1073
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 3: this evidence. You probably had to see the video. There's

1074
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 3: people that and I've seen some of the things like, well,

1075
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 3: I follow Olivia on Twitter and I've seen some of

1076
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 3: the like debates and discussions. She's gotten into a roundness,

1077
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 3: and I am shocked by the amount of assumption that

1078
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 3: people are making. You know, people like well she was

1079
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 3: laughing and shit, and it's like, well, you don't know that.

1080
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 4: Well she was found guilty. Actually this the trial's going on.

1081
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 7: Right, we don't know.

1082
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,399
Speaker 8: I didn't see it, and most people projec didn't see

1083
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,240
Speaker 8: it because the guarantee you they probably take it off.

1084
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 3: If a jury finds her guilty because they saw the

1085
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Speaker 3: tape and got presented with the evidence.

1086
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 4: Then it is what it is.

1087
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 3: But if you know, if the news is just being like, well,

1088
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 3: the prosecutor basically said, this is the story that he's

1089
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 3: putting out there, then that can be obviously biased because

1090
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Speaker 3: it's from the fucking prosecutor.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 3: Ain't like he gonna be like, I'm prosecuting an innocent person.

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Speaker 3: She was trying to help her friend, you know what

1094
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 3: I mean, They gonna definitely be like, oh, yeah, you

1095
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 3: definitely did that shit. That's how they're gonna present it.

1096
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 3: So and I haven't read a lot of articles on it,

1097
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 3: and I think we only covered this on the Guest

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00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 3: the Race. I don't even think we covered this in

1099
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Speaker 3: depth because I don't know enough about this shit to

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Speaker 3: be honest. But yeah, that's interesting that the prosecutor has

1101
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 3: been able to control the narrative that much. Love your show. Also,

1102
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 3: if that is the if the way, if your case

1103
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 3: is the way that it went down, even if it's

1104
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 3: not actually her defense, people need to be trying to

1105
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:33,439
Speaker 3: get that story out there. They to be like, she's

1106
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 3: a hero, my hero client saved her friend or some shit.

1107
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Speaker 4: I don't know.

1108
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 3: I brought a rapist to justice or something, rather than

1109
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:46,919
Speaker 3: letting the prosecutor get all the licks in now, Erica

1110
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 3: Wright saying, love your show, Stitch. Your recommended your podcast,

1111
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 3: and I'm so glad it did. I'm a middle aged

1112
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 3: white woman from northern Minnesota think Lake will be Gone

1113
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 3: and meth heads, and I enjoy your humor and your

1114
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 3: take on current events. Popcort you, but the reason yours

1115
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 3: is my favorite podcast. Your warmer supportive attitude towards everybody,

1116
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 3: except with stupid rapist I mean stupid racist, sexist, anti

1117
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:10,240
Speaker 3: LGBT people.

1118
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, well you know it's I have my limits. That's

1119
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 4: what we drying line.

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00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:16,399
Speaker 6: You're back out the line.

1121
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:18,839
Speaker 4: I'm like a biggot against biggots, you know what I mean?

1122
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 4: Like I ain't.

1123
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, you ask the people on my Facebook page. I

1124
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 3: know they think I don't fuck around and I don't. Uh,

1125
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 3: I'd be like, explain that joke.

1126
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 4: What that means? You got to get out of here? Uh?

1127
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,720
Speaker 4: What's so funny about that? Anyway?

1128
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Speaker 3: Karen, I was in tears listening you talk about Roy's

1129
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 3: mom bringing you out of self doubt. Thanks so much

1130
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 3: for sharing why is it so hard for us to

1131
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 3: truly believe in ourselves.

1132
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 7: It's difficult, particularly being women, I mean just women.

1133
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 8: It's just something about being a woman that's very difficult

1134
00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 8: to to just deal with because just in nature, your eye, nature,

1135
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 8: society teaches women period that you're the weak creature. You're

1136
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 8: the reac of sex, you know, and that's.

1137
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:09,399
Speaker 6: Established at a very early age.

1138
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 8: It's supposed to be pretty and proper in prim and

1139
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 8: keep your legs closed and don't be out there fucking

1140
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 8: you know, and and all this stuff with a lot

1141
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 8: of instills from religion and various different other things. And

1142
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,439
Speaker 8: that's very very hard to break, particularly if that's not you,

1143
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 8: if you're not even if you are a regular straight

1144
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 8: girl but you just don't like the pretty stuff.

1145
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 6: But if you're not a regular straight girl, you're like, well.

1146
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 7: This is not who I am, man.

1147
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 6: This is a constant struggle.

1148
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 12: Mm hmm.

1149
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 3: Also, she goes on to say, uh, can't wait for

1150
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 3: the next show, Erica, thank you Erica, And uh yeah,

1151
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 3: I feel like the world is always trying to make

1152
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 3: people not believe in themselves because then you don't fit

1153
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 3: in that that that peg, that hole that they want.

1154
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 4: Everybody to be in the uniformity.

1155
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 3: Uh, when you believe in yourself, you start doing shit

1156
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 3: that just uh doesn't go with the flow.

1157
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, And the thing is, people that believe in theirself,

1158
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 8: any minority group that believes in themselves is a very

1159
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 8: dangerous group of people because once you you went off screen, okay,

1160
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 8: once you believe in yourself, you become dangerous. Because the

1161
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 8: thing is, people don't mind playing their rules as long

1162
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 8: as their rules benefit them. But once you beget to

1163
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 8: the point where you begin to play by their games

1164
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 8: and take their own rules and play their own rules

1165
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 8: against them, it becomes a problem because the game is

1166
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 8: only fun as long as they're quote unquote winning. And

1167
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 8: that's why as soon as you know, people be like, hey,

1168
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:36,479
Speaker 8: these are your rules, this is what you said.

1169
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 6: Everybody wants to change laws. Everybody wants to have these

1170
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 6: secret meetings.

1171
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 8: Next thing you know, you got the HTV two one

1172
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 8: bill whatever the fuck North Carolina passing here and bullshit

1173
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 8: like that, because all of a sudden, y'all trying to

1174
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 8: quote unquote play by the rules, and the rules don't

1175
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 8: benefit us anymore.

1176
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 4: Well.

1177
00:58:54,480 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 3: Also, Monica Wrights, come on up, Hey, Ron and Karen

1178
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 3: First of all, you have to come to New York

1179
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 3: and do a live show. I will gettily bring all

1180
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 3: my friends to see you. I love this week's shows,

1181
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 3: and I wish I were less lazily and gave you

1182
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 3: more feedback. But during the guest the race about the

1183
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 3: guy who left the baby in the gym parking lot,

1184
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 3: when Karen said you can't crunch the baby, Oh, that

1185
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 3: took me out. It's become a matra for me now.

1186
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Speaker 3: Love you, bye, Monica, Thanks Monica, thank you, And that's

1187
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 3: everybody that I left feedback this week. Thank you so much.

1188
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 3: We'll appreciate everybody that they did that. And we'll be

1189
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Speaker 3: back tomorrow for another show. Until then, love you. Oh wait,

1190
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Speaker 3: tomorrow's Mother's Day show, right, yeah, so my mom will

1191
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 3: be here tomorrow. We'll have a Mother's Day show at

1192
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Speaker 3: ten am. So we'll see you guys tomorrow. Until then,

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Speaker 3: Love you,