1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, Our three 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: is here. Thanks for rolling with us for the whole show, 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: for part of the show, for joining in just now. 5 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: If you did eight two two two eight eight two. 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: You want to chat with us on the phone lines, 7 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: We've got our friend Alie Beth Stucky. Podcast is relatable 8 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: and she is at the Blaze and she'll talk to 9 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: us about bunch of things, including that baby formula shortage 10 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: that is that's a big deal. Um, you know, my 11 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: my little sister's got a young one that you know, 12 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 1: this is something that people you don't want to add 13 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,639 Speaker 1: this stress to the situation of new parents, and it's 14 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: a problem across the country. And I think unfortunately, and 15 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: this is where you know, there's there's good news bad 16 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 1: news to bring you in general here on the show 17 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: and on this day and on a lot of days 18 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: I think I had. The good news is that Clay 19 00:00:55,400 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: and I are confident that the Democrats are heading for 20 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 1: a SmackDown, a elbow off the top belt buckle, if 21 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: you will, in this mid terms. That a suplex. I 22 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: used to watch the ww FA back in the day 23 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: before the Wildlife people got mad at Sue made at 24 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: the WWE I used to watch back in the day. 25 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: So the Democrats are gonna get crushed. I think in 26 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: the midterms, we're obviously going to stay I on the prize, focused, mobilized, 27 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: get everybody as engaged and involved all across the countrys 28 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: you can one of the one of the honestly, the 29 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: real responsibilities we have on the show is there are 30 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: and we are blessed and thankful and humbled. There are 31 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: so many listeners to this show that this audience can 32 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: make a real difference in national politics, not even just 33 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: obviously any state or local race, but even national politics, 34 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: which is why we've got you know, would be senators 35 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: and congressmen and dog catchers, you name it. They're reaching out. 36 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: They want to come on the show all the time. 37 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: So on the good side of things is I think 38 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: we're politically now reaching a point of clarity. On the 39 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: bad side of things, it's gonna get rough out there. 40 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: In the economy, I think that's almost a certainty at 41 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: this stage. And now that ties into the first proposition. 42 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:11,279 Speaker 1: But I actually want the country to be prosperous, happy, stable, 43 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: and free. This isn't just my scoreboard, their scoreboard thing 44 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: where whatever gets our side to win is all that matters. 45 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: And the economy is going to get rough. We've got 46 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: the new inflation numbers expected to come out soon, the 47 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: stock market tanking today. Biden is going to give is 48 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: going to give a speech tomorrow. It's just announced a 49 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: speech tomorrow where he's going to try to blame inflation 50 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: on other people. And let's remember that inflation went from 51 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: according to this White House, not a problem, to transitory 52 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: to short term or you know, going to fade out soon, 53 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: to Okay, we've got an inflation problem, but it's the 54 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 1: putin price hych which that didn't work. That talking point's 55 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: going to fade away. CNN released a pull that said 56 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 1: that eight in ten US adults that the federal government 57 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: wasn't doing enough to curb inflation. Clay, this, this is 58 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: what's gonna This is the problem. Curbing inflation means rates 59 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: go up. That's really the that's really the way. Yeah, 60 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: you can reduce spending, but in the short term, if 61 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: you really want to curb inflation, you have to raise 62 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: interest rates. We have gone through a period here of 63 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: really unprecedented and artificially low interest rates. Folks, This is 64 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: going to mean buying a house, getting that mortgage more expensive, 65 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: credit card debt more expensive, just investment out there in 66 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: the community in general, more expensive, harder to come by. 67 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: This is the only way. Basically, we got to eat 68 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: eat our p's now, Clay, it's time. It's time to 69 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: put the castor oil and the spoon for this economy. 70 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: It's not going to be fun. Yeah, And what Biden's 71 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: going to try to do is confuse people and argue 72 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: that the policies he's tried to pass that have not 73 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: passed have cause that, other words, Republicans have helped to 74 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: cause inflation. Now that they're blaming everybody, right, because initially, 75 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: as you said, Buck, the argument was this is very transitory, 76 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: and instead it's now somewhat stable. Now, the expectations are 77 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: that inflation is going to come back a little bit 78 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: on Wednesday. And again, that number I believe comes out 79 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: at eight thirty am Eastern on Wednesday, So I'm sure 80 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: Wednesday show will be talking about whatever those numbers might 81 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: have shown for April. The challenges to your point, the 82 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 1: only real way to dial back inflation is to start 83 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: to raise interest rates, and there's still a tremendous gap 84 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: between where interest rates are and where the inflation rate is, 85 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: and it doesn't feel to me like this is going 86 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: to be a rapid retrenchment in any way. But Biden 87 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: knows that he's way underwater on the inflation related issues, 88 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: so he's going to try and muddy those waters and 89 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: try to assert blame on Republicans rather than owning it 90 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: himself for the policies that he put in place. And honestly, 91 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: thank goodness on a small scale that Joe Manchion and 92 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: Kirsten Cinema stood up against the massive Build Back Better 93 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: plan that Biden wanted to spend, because if that had passed, 94 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: that was going to be trillions of more dollars rolling 95 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: into our economy being spent by the federal government at 96 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: the worst possible time. Now, unfortunately, unfortunately they were able 97 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: to ram through all of the spending that they were 98 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: in the early days of the Biden administration. Why did 99 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: we end up spending on COVID over five trillion dollars right, buck, Yes, 100 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: over five trillion dollars that we borrowed for COVID, and 101 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: basically all of that money had virtually I believe, no impact, 102 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: meaning it would have been better off for us if 103 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: we had never shut down, if we had just powered 104 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: right through. Virtually everyone has gotten COVID by this point 105 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: or gotten the COVID shot. Many have gotten both the 106 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: COVID shot and COVID, of course, including your own governor 107 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: Kathy Hokel, who continues to trot out the insanely ridiculous 108 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: I have. COVID's relatively minor thanks to the fact that 109 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: my two shots and my two boosters. I mean, in 110 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: such a cliche at this point, but that's where we are. 111 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: We're captured now at forty year high inflation rates, which 112 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: make I believe, I really think there's no argument at 113 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: this point Joe Biden's far worse than Jimmy Carter ever was. 114 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: When you look at all everything that Joe Biden has 115 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: touched has turned to crap. Everything in this country, the border, 116 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 1: the crime rate, the inflation rate, the inability buck we 117 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: still haven't gotten. And I think this is important because 118 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: the other thing Biden's going to argue is, oh, look 119 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: at the millions of jobs I've created since I came 120 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: into office. That's a lie. We still aren't back to 121 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: the same employment that we had in February of twenty 122 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: twenty and early March of twenty twenty when we shut 123 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: down this country. And I think a lot of people 124 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: don't realize that. I believe we're still a million and 125 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: half jobs behind where we were when we decided to 126 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: have the lockdowns and the unemployment rate skyrocketed to twenty percent. 127 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: We still haven't gain back the jobs that we lost 128 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: when we shut down this country in February and March 129 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty. It's not confidence inspiring, Clay when you 130 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: think that it took a couple of senators getting the 131 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,119 Speaker 1: ire of their party, I mean, get it. Just people 132 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: were furious with Cinema and Mansion, and not only did 133 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: they probably save the Democrat Party from even further electoral annihilation, 134 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: they might have done more than anybody else to save 135 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: the economy from getting And now Republicans obviously didn't want 136 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: to go along with that either, but they weren't in 137 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: that position, right. They weren't members of the Democrat Party 138 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: in a position to say we're actually going to break party, 139 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: break with party ranks here and not spend that additional 140 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: five trillion dollars. This is all very straightforward. And let's 141 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: remember that under the Trump years you started to hear 142 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: more and when I say straightforward, I mean the cause 143 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: and effect. Under the Trump as, you started to hear 144 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: more and more from the left from Bernie Sanders supporters 145 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: and voters and advisors and AOC about MMT modern monetary theory. 146 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: You're not hearing a lot about that these days. Modern 147 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: monetary theory. We should explain that to people, because it 148 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: was such a why and you were hearing it as 149 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: though it was smart. And basically MMT is the government 150 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: in our position. It's a macroeconomic theory saying that rising 151 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: debt and fear of inflation should not restrain your spending. Essentially, 152 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: determine what the public good requires in terms of spending, 153 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: and spend it. Open checkbook, go for it, go wild 154 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: now for anybody. And then people say, well, what about inflation, 155 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 1: They say, oh, don't worry, we'll handle it. That's effectively 156 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: the MMT theorist walls freak out. Say I have a 157 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: PhD and microcodomas whatever that's reality. They'll say, we'll handle it. 158 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: They don't have a real way to do it. And 159 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: this was talked about more and more because Trump, there 160 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: was so much prosperity. The markets were doing so well, 161 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 1: and everyone felt like, Wow, the economy's kicking. But now 162 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're not hearing it anymore because 163 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: under the COVID period, we we kind of tried a 164 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: short term. It was like a trial period of MMT, 165 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: it will stay home, and we'll spend five trillion additional 166 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: dollars to try to deal with this completely unnecessary spending. 167 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: You know, over ninety percent of it right when you 168 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: look at it, because people shouldn't have had to stay home. 169 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: We should have gone to our jobs. We should not 170 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: have done any of the things that we did in 171 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: that regard because remember seenior citizens overwhelming. You're not the 172 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: ones who were staying home from work, and they're the 173 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: ones who were at risk. So we tried this idea 174 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: out of hey, there's a there's a public crisis, let's 175 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: just spend whatever money we think we need to spend. 176 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: And it's disastrous and now the bill is coming due 177 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: and we're going to have to deal with the pain 178 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: this is caused and effect and the Democrats, until about 179 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: five minutes ago, we're saying I want to find the 180 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: audio Joe Biden was saying, spending five trillion dollars will 181 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: reduce inflation. Yes, that was a true moron, Yes, that 182 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: was That was the argument for back better and they were, 183 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: by the way, a lot of economists who carry water 184 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: for Democrats that we're saying the same thing. And I 185 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: hope that come Wednesday at eight thirty am, we don't 186 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: have another high in inflation because how many months in 187 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: a row have we had to deal with economists saying, boy, 188 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: this surprises me. I didn't expect for this number to 189 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: be up like it was. I mean, that's been the 190 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: reaction for what like eight or nine months in a row, 191 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 1: it feels like. And the idea that you can borrow 192 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: as much money as you want and there are no 193 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: consequences ever, is one of the lynchpins of modern monetary theory, 194 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: and it's been proven to be one hundred percent wrong. 195 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: And only because of Joe Manchion and Kursen Cinema did 196 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: Democrats not spend an additional And even the five trillion 197 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: dollar number doesn't do justice to how much more money 198 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: they wanted to spend, because it was five trillion over 199 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: ten years. But then they cut it off as if 200 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: it wasn't going to exist any longer. Meaning the reality 201 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: is we're talking about ten twenty thirty trillion dollars over 202 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: the next thirty or forty years that Democrats wanting to 203 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: commit the federal government too spending. You know, we know 204 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: there are regime media outlets effectively that will do anything 205 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: to support Biden. It's most of the political national journalists 206 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: out there. Whatever they can do to to help the 207 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: Biden administration narrative, they will do. And they think that 208 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: they have a duty to set aside whatever ethics their 209 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: profession demands or supposedly demands, in order to serve the 210 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: interests of Biden. They're a regime economists too, because every 211 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: time Biden would says you're her, economists all agree, And 212 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: of course economists don't all agree. That's that's an untrue statement, 213 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: but that's part of the propaganda. And then they point 214 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: to some some institute, you know, some nonprofit that has 215 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: a bunch of econoists working for it. Well, if you 216 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: want to be the economist who gets invited on CNBC 217 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: and gets a fifty thousand dollars or twenty thousand dollars 218 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 1: whatever it is, speaking gig gets, some conference of investors. 219 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: You always come up with the Oh, Biden's doing a 220 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: good job. Biden knows you know, this is we're moving 221 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: in the right direction. You essentially become a cheerleader for 222 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: the idiotic policies that's been going on for the last 223 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: year and a half, give or take. 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But Bill Maher on HBO 268 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: has become increasingly dare we say, rational and sane in 269 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: an insane world, and he had a couple of interesting takes. 270 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: I thought on abortion in particular, and this is an 271 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: interesting discussion that I think very few people actually are 272 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: aware of the United States had a far more lenient 273 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: abortion policy under Roe v. Wade than virtually any European 274 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: countries did, and many people don't that. Let's listen to 275 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: Bill Maher discuss it on his HBO show Friday night. 276 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: I learned things this week because this put it on 277 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: the front page that are pretty basic things that I 278 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: did not know about abortion, Like in Europe. The modern 279 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: countries of Europe way more restrictive than we are or 280 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: what they're even proposing. If you are pro choice, you 281 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: would like it a lot less in Germany and Italy 282 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: and France and Spain and Switzerland. Did you know that? 283 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I learned most people who are 284 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: pro life or women did not know that. Indeed, it's 285 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: becoming very clear Clay that a lot of people who 286 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: think of themselves as pro choice don't realize that the 287 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: abortion lobby in America, even on a global scale, is extreme. 288 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: Their position is extreme. I think a lot of people 289 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: would say, oh, I'm pro choice, don't realize what they're 290 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: really signing on for. In terms of what the movement 291 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: of pro choice pro abortion is in this country. It's 292 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: very much branding because I feel like there are a 293 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: lot of people, and we talked about this last week. 294 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: When you actually dive in and you say, okay, what 295 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: do you think about nine month abortion? People say, God knows, 296 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: there's no way remotely that I would appreciate that. And 297 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: I said, but you know, your pro choice eight months, 298 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: seven months? And I think this is pretty significant. When 299 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: you dive in because there's a lot of talk about, Hey, 300 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: a lot of people want to say that they support 301 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: Roe v. Wade. I think that's because people don't want 302 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: to get into the nitty gritty details buck of having 303 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: to decide when is an abortion permissible and when is 304 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: an impermissible, because it just feels for many people like 305 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: an ikey conversation. It's an important one, but I think 306 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: it's one that our nation has been avoiding by and 307 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: large because of Roe v. Way. Now, I also want 308 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: to play this one from Bill Maher, and this for 309 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: any lawyer out there also is going to ring true. 310 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: There's a difference between precedent that's upheld and precedent that 311 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: isn't upheld. Some really awful cases exist for a long time, 312 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: like plus E versus Ferguson in eighteen ninety six that 313 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: upheld separate but equal. That was for a long time 314 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 1: the law of the land. Listen to Cut four. This 315 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: whole book argument about well, it's settled law. So was 316 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: Segregations versus Ferguson was settled law in eighteen ninety six, 317 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: and thank god, somebody said, let's unsettle it. It's what's 318 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: it's what you say if you. If you like it, 319 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: you're like babies, then you're pro life. And if you 320 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: like women, you approach choice. I like women. I don't 321 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: think that connection there at the end is accurate. But 322 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: I do think what we're already advancing towards is a 323 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: real conversation and debate about what should America's abortion policy 324 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: be in all fifty states. And that is one where 325 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: you're going to be able to hold your elected officials 326 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: accountable and the people will decide, which is the essence 327 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: of Democrats. Over emphasis on precedent is a crap argument. 328 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: Saying the Supreme Court justices misled the court when they 329 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: said that it's currently settled law and therefore they lie 330 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: is a crap argument. There are arguments we could take 331 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: seriously here, Clay, those are just garbage arguments, no doubt, 332 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: absolutely completely true. We've got a great guest coming up 333 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: here in a minute, Ali Beth Stucky is scheduled to 334 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: join us, and she will help break down everything going 335 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 1: on in the world of this case, and also probably 336 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: ask her a little bit about the abortion issue. 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Go to LifeLock dot 347 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 1: com use my name as a promo code that's Clay 348 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: for twenty five percent offlifelock dot com slash Clay. Sign 349 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: up todaylifelock dot com one eight hundred lifelocks. Welcome back 350 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: to the Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton Show. As promised, 351 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: our friend Alie Beth Stucky is with us now. She 352 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: is host of the podcast Relatable, author of You're Not Enough, 353 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: and a writer at World Magazine. Ali thanks for joining us, Yeah, 354 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Can we start because there's obviously 355 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: so much bide administration imploding, inflation, abortion decision looming, we 356 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: got We've got a lot we can talk to you you about, 357 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: But I just want to know what are you hearing? 358 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: You're plugged into this community. You know what it's like 359 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: for the young moms out there, the baby formula shortage. 360 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 1: I'm seeing people really really freaked out about this because 361 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: what are they supposed to do? Yeah, this is terrifying 362 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: in so many ways, and I think a lot of 363 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: people don't even consider. I am friends with people who 364 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: are foster parents who have recently at doct did. I 365 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: have friends who have kids who have special allergies and 366 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 1: special needs that require them to have a certain kind 367 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: of formula. This is an insanely impactful and pervasive problem. 368 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 1: I mean, this is your worst nightmare if you're a 369 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: mom who is trying to feed your child, to get 370 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: your child the nutrients that it needs, like bare minimum. 371 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: First priority as a mother is to take care of 372 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: your child in this way, and you are literally helpless, 373 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: especially if you are someone who maybe doesn't have the 374 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: means that others do. If you have lots of dollars 375 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: laying around, you might be able to stockpile the formula 376 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: if you can find it, or you can order some 377 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: expensive brand overseas. But for working class women, for the 378 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: average woman, especially for a woman who is impoverished, it 379 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: is almost getting impossible for them to feed their children. 380 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 1: That is a very scary prospect. Ali, what are thanks 381 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: for coming on the show? By the way, What are 382 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: moms being told and dads who have to go out 383 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 1: to buy this formula? What are they being told about? 384 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: How long this shortage is going to last, how much 385 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,959 Speaker 1: worse it might get? I mean, this is alarming on 386 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: an incredibly high level for anybody out there that has 387 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: raised kids and has had to buy formula, as you mentioned, 388 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: because this is one of those things that it's hard 389 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: to replicate with something else. What are moms being told? Yeah, 390 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,719 Speaker 1: that's part of the anxiety, right, is that they're just 391 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: kind of being told as vague answer supply chain issues, 392 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: which we can talk about all the different possibilities in 393 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: all of the different reasons causing that. Some of it 394 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: also is a recall that happened to add It labs. Unfortunately, 395 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: there is contamination of the formula that led to the 396 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: sickness of lots of babies and the depth of two babies, 397 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: and so that's scary. So there's just less formula in circulation, 398 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: and they're not being told any answers is to really why, 399 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: and then also when it's going to end? There are 400 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 1: suppliers or stores like Target, like CBS, like Walgreen saying 401 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: that for the foreseeable future they are just to have 402 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: to ration the formula. So I don't have any answers. 403 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 1: A Biden administration doesn't seem to have any answers. These 404 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: suppliers don't seem to have any answers. I true, I 405 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: wish I could say there's light at the end of 406 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: the tunnel, but I just don't have that kind of 407 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: a positive vision right now. Ali also want to ask 408 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: you your thoughts on the situation of the Supreme Court 409 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: justices who have lunatics shrieking at them from their front 410 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: lawns of their private you know, their homes, and an 411 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 1: unwillingness it seems from most of the Democrat media the 412 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: White House just change their position from hey, people are upset, 413 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: too bad too, Okay, maybe don't threaten Supreme Court justices. 414 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 1: But this feels like a very combustible situation. And I 415 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: think the unhinged and to some demonic components of the 416 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: left are coming out for everyone to see. And it's 417 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: not just the Supreme Court justices and the young children 418 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: of just this like Cavana A. Barrett that are being 419 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: you know, intimidated and threatened. Right now, we're also talking 420 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 1: about people with far less security and far fewer places 421 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: to go, like your pregnancy resource centers. Unfortunately, we've seen 422 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: on Twitter pictures of these resource centers being vandalized. I mean, 423 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: these are clinics. These are centers that are helping women 424 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: no matter what they ultimately decide to do with their pregnancy. 425 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: They are offering pre pregnancy classes, free baby supplied, maternity closed, 426 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: all kinds of things. And as you said, these demonic 427 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 1: pro abortion activists, for whatever reason, feel that they need 428 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 1: to vandalize and in some cases burn down these clinics 429 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: because they are so rabid and intent on seeing more 430 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: babies murdered. And it really is sad, but I hope 431 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: people see more than they ever have that this is 432 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: a really a light versus darkness dichotomy more than it 433 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: is a political battle. Ali, I'm curious what you're hearing 434 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: from moms, because I talked about this on the show 435 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 1: on Thursday. I was out with group of couples, a 436 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 1: lot of different mombs of a variety of different political persuasions, 437 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: and what I found was just I was just having 438 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: a conversation with them about what their thoughts were on 439 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: the Alito Opinion League. It's amazing to me that people 440 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: who are pro choice define themselves very strongly pro choice. 441 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: Almost all of them that I talked to said, well, no, 442 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: I would never support an abortion in the seventh, eighth, 443 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 1: or ninth month of pregnancy, when the child is in 444 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: many ways potentially able to survive outside of the womb. 445 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: And similarly, people who said, hey, I'm one hundred percent 446 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: pro life. Obviously, we're okay with birth control. Everyone that 447 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: I was talking with, they were okay with exceptions in 448 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: the life of the mother certainly an incest and ape 449 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: and other things. How much agreement, and this may be 450 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: a surprise question, but it surprised me there's actually a 451 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: ton of agreement on abortion. And now that every state 452 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: has to make decisions, I think democrats are going to 453 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: find when you go into this specific details of abortion, 454 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: there isn't as much support for certainly all the way 455 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: up to nine month pregnancy as they're trying to argue 456 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: through the media. Have you started to see those conversations 457 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 1: take place, maybe an indifferent way, that the shift has 458 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: gone from Should Roe v. Wade be the law of 459 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 1: the land to Okay, what should abortion policy look like, 460 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: because I'm kind of intrigued by the reactions and responses 461 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: when you have those conversations. Well, you're absolutely right, and 462 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: putting my own opinions aside, I'm really as anti abortion 463 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: as you can get. The average American is extremely what 464 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: I would call moderate on this issue. You'll hear a 465 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: lot of pro choice activist day while the majority of 466 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 1: people want women to have access to abortion. Day support 467 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: row View Wade. But also the reality is that most 468 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: people don't really understand what row View Wade is. They 469 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 1: think that if Rovuwade is overturned, then America is going 470 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: to abolish abortion across the land. Most people in America, 471 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: do you believe in exceptions, even if they consider themselves 472 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: pro life. Again, putting my own personal opinions to decide 473 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: that it's just typical of the average American. But as 474 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 1: you mentioned, most Americans also believe that there should be restrictions, 475 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: especially when you get into this second and third trimester, 476 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: and that really has been steady. I mean, the last 477 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 1: has moved far left over the past in the twenty years, 478 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: for sure, But when it comes to abortion, the average 479 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: American really have stayed the same in what they consider 480 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: to be a good abortion policy. So if the LAFT 481 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 1: really cares about democracy as much as they say they do, 482 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: if they really are so confident that Americans want access 483 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: to abortion, then let's put it up to a vote, 484 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: which is exactly what would happen across the states. Of course, 485 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: if Roe v. Wade is overturned, it would be our 486 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: democratic processes playing out in state legislatures. Oh, I feel 487 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: like we're making you are unofficial but semi official Mom 488 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: whisperer here in real time, because I got another mom 489 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: question for you, and that is with the school issue 490 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: that we've seen and teaching of CRT and all of 491 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 1: the all of the back and forth at the school 492 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: board meetings, are you getting the sense that moms, we 493 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: know moms were fired up? Right? That would be we 494 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 1: saw that in Virginia. We've seen that in some key 495 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 1: some key indicators, including in some elections. Let's call it 496 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: six seven months ago. But are they still fired up? 497 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 1: Do you think that the shutdowns of schools for COVID, 498 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 1: the teaching of CRT, and now the teaching the transagenda 499 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: might surprise some folks with how much that motivates parents, moms, 500 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: but parents in general to show up at the polls 501 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: in this midterm. Well, you can absolutely bet the Democrats 502 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: that's exactly what Democrats are trying to distract women and 503 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: moms from using this abortion issue and trying to stoke 504 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: gage around abortion. They're trying to make them forget about 505 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 1: what Democrats did to their children over the past couple 506 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 1: of years. I don't think that it's going to work. 507 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 1: I don't think abortion mobilized independent or moderate women as 508 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: much as they think that it does, and so I 509 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: do think it's an issue. I do think that the 510 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: radicalism and school curriculum is going to be an issue. 511 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: I think the economy, inflation, the lack of supplies like 512 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: baby formula that moms are able to find, I think 513 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 1: that that's going to be far more mobilizing than the 514 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 1: abortion issue, for sure. And I think as the fall 515 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: comes and as we see more school board meetings, that 516 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: you are going to see that energy kind of reop 517 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: once again. But look, it's going to take a lot 518 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,479 Speaker 1: of work on the conservative side to make sure that 519 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: moms are still aware of that, because look, there's a 520 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: lot of propaganda, especially I like to say that white 521 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: woman Instagram, especially progressive white woman Instagram, is like the 522 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: biggest purveyor of political propaganda that exists, and so it's 523 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: going to take a lot of effort to reach those 524 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: moms and jest, educate and inform those moms to make 525 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: sure they know what's going on and why it matters. 526 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: I think it's possible, but it's going to take a 527 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: lot of efforts. Ali. We agree suburban women hold the 528 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: key to the twenty twenty two and the twenty twenty 529 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: four elections. We need to get you on again sometime soon. 530 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: Appreciate it, Yes, thanks so much. That is Alibeth Stuck. 531 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: He encourage you to check out her podcast Relatable And 532 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: you know what else's relatable? Buck? How about wanting to 533 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: wear comfortable shoes that maybe mix and match the benefits 534 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: of business with the comfort of a sneaker. 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I gotta be honest with you, 554 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: he looks like a mail model in these shoes. You 555 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: will as well, maybe at least close Wolf and Shepherd 556 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: dot com. That is sh Eph E r D. Wolf 557 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: and Shepherd dot Com. Get hooked up today. Welcome back 558 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: in finals segment Monday edition of the program. Appreciate all 559 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us. Go subscribe to the 560 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: podcast make sure you don't miss a moment. Buck, I 561 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: saw this story and I thought, hey, this is a 562 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: good one to finish off the show with. So. Kim jongoon, 563 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: dictatorial authoritarian leader of North Korea, has decided that he 564 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: is going to begin banning certain fashions that he finds 565 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: to be unacceptable in his country, and among those facts, 566 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: this is a real story among those fashions. I saw 567 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: this and I was like, hey, you know what, maybe 568 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,959 Speaker 1: Kim Jongoon's got In general, I disagree with most of 569 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: what he says, but he might be right on this one. 570 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:46,479 Speaker 1: He says that skinny jeans are no longer appropriate to 571 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: be worn in North Korea, And so it got me 572 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: thinking if you could ban anything, if you were, did 573 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: you know, total control of a country, and you decided 574 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: you want to get involved in what was and what 575 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: was not permissible. He's also by the way he has 576 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: banned dyed hair. He has banned particular hair lengths and 577 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: clothing that features large foreign wording in addition to skinny jeans. So, Buck, 578 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: this is a quote by the way, the Youth League's 579 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: patrols are cracking down on young people who wear long 580 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: hair down to their waist and those who dye their 581 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: hair brown, as well as people who wear clothes with 582 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: large foreign letters and women who wear tight pants. So 583 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: this is this is a major onslaught here of Kim Jongoon. 584 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: What would you ban? This is very strange, Clay, because 585 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: in this country, the commies in places like Brooklyn are 586 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: the ones wearing the skinny jeans and gen right, So 587 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: apparently this is a COMMI in North Korea who's saying 588 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: no more skinny jeans. I would say, if we're banning she, 589 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: I don't really know what's in fashion right now, so 590 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: I can't join men't you know. I'd have to go 591 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: back quite a way. I'm a I'm a sweatshirt and 592 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: like roomy pants kind of guy with my wolf and 593 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: shepherd shoes, with our course. But I gotta tell you, man, 594 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,719 Speaker 1: there are sometimes in the past where I've been like, no, nope, no, 595 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: this is bad in the recent past, and this is 596 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: like one of those things where when I share an idea, 597 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: like I don't know, maybe like when you shared your 598 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: Batman movie review for the most recent Batman and one 599 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: of us gets crushed over it. It's okay, that was me, everybody, 600 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: But for some reason, some people thought it was clay. Uh. 601 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: There was do you remember the gaucho pants craze for women? 602 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: It was like maybe ten or fifteen years ago. It 603 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: was like very baggy, loose pants and they were called 604 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: gaucho pants. That was the worst female fashion trend I 605 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: think I've ever seen in my life. It would be 606 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: like if you cut off mc hammers pants at the cast. 607 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: Oh I remember those, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those were the ugliest, 608 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: dumbest things I've ever seen in my life. I said 609 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: so at the time, people said, well, you don't know fashion. 610 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, right, But I also just no reality. Um, 611 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: the mom jeans and this is not an offense to 612 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: the to the mom's. There a lot of moms out 613 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: there list of the show. You know, they're in better 614 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: shape than you or me, and they're wearing jeans that 615 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: you know, look like their leggings. But I'm just saying 616 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 1: the mom jeans that are up high on the nineteen 617 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: eighties were tie waisted, super baggy jeans. Don't look good 618 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: on guys, on girls, on anybody. All Right, that was 619 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: a bad That was a bad trend. Um. I'm sure 620 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: I would ban here's the I would ban turtlenecks on men. 621 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: I think the turtleneck maybe what did I put a 622 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: chain over it? Though? Clay like the like, uh the 623 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:37,399 Speaker 1: big picture guys, Yeah, no I am. I am one 624 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: billion percent anti turtleneck. So I would be if I 625 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: could ban any apparel in America today, it would be 626 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 1: the turtleneck. I think, I know one looks good in 627 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: the turtleneck. It's like, well, how cold is your neck? 628 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 1: You know? Again this also ties in I'm even more 629 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: pro scarf than I am turtleneck. There's never been a 630 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: point in time where I was like, hey, you know what, 631 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 1: I'm kind of cold, but if I had my neck covered, 632 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: I would be warm. Like that doesn't work that way, right, 633 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 1: So I'm anti turtleneck. You either can wear uh you know, 634 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: you can wear a jacket, a hoodie, whatever, But I'm 635 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,399 Speaker 1: I would go with a banning of all turtleneck. There 636 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: was a time when the turtleneck with the suit blazer 637 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: was a thing that you will have to wear. Now, 638 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: unless you're a Bulgarian nightclub owner with like a big 639 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: Gucci belt buckle on, you're probably not doing the turtleneck 640 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 1: and blazer thing. So I can't or if you're a 641 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: bond villain. I think bond villains can pull off turtleneck 642 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: and blazer as a general rule. But I'm telling you 643 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: right now, there's some there's some folks listen who are 644 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 1: turtleneck and blazer guys. That's mostly a guy, but are 645 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 1: Do you feel as we have a women's turtle turtlenecks 646 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: as well? You don't have any? I don't know. I 647 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: don't women. First of all, when I've seen the women's turtleneck, 648 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,280 Speaker 1: usually it's a pretty tight shirt, right, so like the 649 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 1: like it's a good look on a woman, I don't 650 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: think it's a I am old the anti turtlenecks on men. 651 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: I just learned my lesson too, because I had a 652 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 1: guy calling to my show years ago, Clay, who said 653 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,320 Speaker 1: something only lines of like yoga pants are one of 654 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 1: the greatest advances of Western civilization in the last you know, 655 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: one hundred years or something. And I didn't even say anything. 656 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: The amount of emails I got got crushed just for 657 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: lating this guy say it on the air because women 658 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 1: thought it was very sexist. So I just think people 659 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,760 Speaker 1: should wear makes the uncomfortable. I stay away from the fashion. 660 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go pick up my kids this afternoon, and 661 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 1: I will be like the only person not wearing yoga 662 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: pants at the kid pick. Gotta get you some Lula 663 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: Lemon for guys, Clay, they make it, you're fancy. They 664 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: don't make yoga pants for men, do they make Lulu 665 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 1: Lemon pants, which is a yoga company for men. They're right, 666 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: but they're not like they're not like really tight that 667 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: I own a pair. I don't know, Ned Dean, I 668 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: I don't even know about this stuff. Just long you 669 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: don't only turtlenecks and God bless yoga pants. See you tomorrow. 670 00:36:55,560 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: Everybody fleets. Ab sent Buck Sexton on the front lines 671 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 1: of truth.