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Speaker 1: stop time there, good afternoon, Welcome to the show One

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Speaker 1: Goes Live presented by Collida Health, coming to you live

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Speaker 1: from Orchard Park, right next door to the Bills Stadium.

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Speaker 1: And uh, it's a it's a cloudy day in Orchard Park.

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Speaker 1: Ship Nickel for every time I said dry though cloudy,

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Speaker 1: but dry not warm forties baby steps. Yeah, well we're

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Speaker 1: past the baby step stage. I need I need production,

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Speaker 1: I need weather, I need sun, I need warmth. Come on, man,

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Speaker 1: an excuse. We're a week away from the NFL Draft

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Speaker 1: and we've had what three sunny day since the first

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Speaker 1: of the year. Give me a break. I'm not complaining anymore.

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Speaker 1: But we're like thirty hours from No, we're thirty two

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Speaker 1: hours away from the schedule coming out. Is that right?

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Speaker 1: Thirty I don't know. It's tomorrow night, eight pm hours

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Speaker 1: plus eight. Yeah, thirty two hours from the NFL Draft

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Speaker 1: coming out. Lots to talk about about that. It's from

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Speaker 1: the schedule, Yeah, from the schedule coming out, the Bill schedule, day, daytime,

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Speaker 1: home and away, all that stuff. When when they're gonna

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Speaker 1: play primetime games, all of that. I really look forward

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Speaker 1: to that one of my favorite days of the season.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing. How I'm almost I'm more excited about that

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Speaker 1: that than I was the Combine. We went to the Combine, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we did. Yeah, you're right. We should do a show

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Speaker 1: live next from the from the NFL offices when they

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Speaker 1: announced the schedule. Um, it's funny. We talked about it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be on TV though, right yeah, eight o'clock NFL

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Speaker 1: Network tomorrow. We talked about it yesterday. We kind of

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Speaker 1: get Inkland. We got a good guest coming up Thursday

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Speaker 1: on the schedule. As a matter of fact, Mike North,

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Speaker 1: who is really the man in charge of NFL scheduling.

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Speaker 1: I met him and talked to him last year on

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Speaker 1: the Monday Night game on the Monday night before the

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Speaker 1: Bills around Monday Night Football. Regardless, the deal is, I

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Speaker 1: guess it's such an offseason event the schedule release, believe

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Speaker 1: up towards the Easter weekend. The thinking is by Thursday night,

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Speaker 1: when the schedule typically it comes out, many people would

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Speaker 1: or wherever. And in an effort to maximize the schedule,

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Speaker 1: the league said, let's do it Wednesday night, which is

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Speaker 1: why it's tomorrow NT eight and not Thursday night like

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Speaker 1: it usually is. They did it for us, No, we

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Speaker 1: can talk about it the next They did it for TV,

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Speaker 1: so NFL Network gets big ratings. I'm sure it's one

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Speaker 1: Network schedule coming out tomorrow at eight. We can't wait.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk more about the schedule in the next few days,

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Speaker 1: including the ideas and maybe more ideas on what you

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Speaker 1: want out of that schedule. I hope it is a

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Speaker 1: better event than the NHL Draft Lottery. Yeah, did you

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Speaker 1: spend time on that? That's on you. It is almost unwatchable.

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Speaker 1: Well what were you expecting? I know that's why they're watching.

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Speaker 1: Were their little pig pound balls or how do they

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Speaker 1: do it? How don't you want to talk about Let's

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Speaker 1: just hope that they get it right with the NFL schedule,

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Speaker 1: because it isn't it's amazing. We had this art. Well

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Speaker 1: the stuff we talk about not only that, but all

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Speaker 1: The NFL put out a three year research grant to Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: to some researchers here in Buffalo, mathematicians Mark Carwin, PhD,

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Speaker 1: how to make it more fair. They're trying to that

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Speaker 1: the league is using in this year's schedule, right, they're

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Speaker 1: Then there are atoms in the universe which are ten

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Speaker 1: to the eightieth power. No wonder, it's a hard job. Well,

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Speaker 1: Last week? You were telling me, Oh, the stitch put

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Speaker 1: much work into it. I'm telling you it's complicated. They've

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Speaker 1: it be nice? I mean, and far bit from me

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Speaker 1: But it don't feel guilty schedule. Don't you feel guilty

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Speaker 1: the Patriots, something like that. Yeah, I'm surprised at this

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Speaker 1: these other nine picks but I get it. There's a

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Speaker 1: couple of ways to do it. What do you think

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Speaker 1: the Bills move up, move down, or stay put at

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Speaker 1: number nine in this year's draft? The key thing is,

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Speaker 1: and you mentioned it, we don't know what we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get offered. If you don't get what you want out

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Speaker 1: of the number nine, you gotta you gotta stay there

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Speaker 1: and pick it. You gotta be ready to pick it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you gotta be ready to pick it. And also, what

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Speaker 1: if somebody ahead of you has that strategy? What if

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Speaker 1: the five pick wants to move back to nine, but

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Speaker 1: to do that, you got to give him one of

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Speaker 1: your We've got four picks between the third and the

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Speaker 1: sixth round, right or third and fifth round. We've got

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Speaker 1: a bunch of picks middle of the draft. Do you

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Speaker 1: trade up and get one of those guys that maybe

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Speaker 1: turns into an all pro in his first year or two? Okay,

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Speaker 1: well what he offered me for that? How much do

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Speaker 1: I have to pay to get up there to get

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Speaker 1: that guy? Yeah? Right, that's the question. So we don't

447
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Speaker 1: know both sides of the trade, and we're like a

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Speaker 1: lot of people. You know, where they started, they covered that,

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Speaker 1: you know, part of half the story, you know, right,

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Speaker 1: and then you make your assumptions based on that, and

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Speaker 1: that's that's that's no way to go through life. Well,

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Speaker 1: let that stop you. That's no, that's that's no way

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Speaker 1: to go to talk radio. Man. Don't let that stop.

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Speaker 1: Nine days away from the first round of the NFL Draft,

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Speaker 1: what's the Bills draft strategy? What you to be? Move up,

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Speaker 1: move down, standpad at number nine. Let's hear from your

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Speaker 1: phone lines open eight o three five fifty and toll

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Speaker 1: or on Twitter. We're gonna get to the tweet sheet

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Speaker 1: in a moment. Sean McDermot had some thoughts on the

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Speaker 1: draft and on the Bill's roster yesterday. He spoke with

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Speaker 1: the media late yesterday afternoon as we were going off

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Speaker 1: the year, and McDermott was asked, as the draft approaches

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Speaker 1: a week and a half away, is he comfortable going

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Speaker 1: into this draft as far as the Bills roster? Does

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Speaker 1: he like what he has on the Bill's roster? Right now,

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Speaker 1: Here's what the Bills head coach said. Right now, there

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Speaker 1: their names on the paper. So what we've got to

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Speaker 1: do is is find a way to bring these names

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Speaker 1: that are on the paper, bring him to life, get

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Speaker 1: him to love one another, get him to understand one another,

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Speaker 1: understand what we're trying to get done. Um, certainly to

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Speaker 1: your point, I know John, that you know Josh coming

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Speaker 1: in is number one. This year is a lot easier

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Speaker 1: than it was last year in terms of the fluidity

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Speaker 1: of that, uh, and how easy that is in terms

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Speaker 1: of the outset. But there's a lot of work to

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Speaker 1: get done and I can't I can't say that enough

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Speaker 1: that we've got a lot of work to do. So

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Speaker 1: what's the final beat to now? In the raft plays

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Speaker 1: for you? With your involvement with the for and things

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Speaker 1: like that, Conversations around what's the what was the first

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Speaker 1: part involvement and what's your you know, involvement and hands

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Speaker 1: out approached with this final beat plus, Yeah, it's interesting.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure every team's different. Um, So what you know

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Speaker 1: in Brandon detail a little bit more, I'm sure. But

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of conversations that take place between the

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Speaker 1: scouts and with Joe and then and then Brandon and

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Speaker 1: the Scouts, and in terms of my involvement, really it's

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Speaker 1: conversations that take place with Brandon and myself, um as

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Speaker 1: well as Joe and we just you know, play the

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Speaker 1: what if game? What if this happens? What if that happens?

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Speaker 1: Are we sure you know this player? We're comfortable with him? Here?

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Speaker 1: Are we sure this guy? You know? You just go

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Speaker 1: through different, um, different options that could come up. So

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Speaker 1: so you're prepared. No different really in a lot of

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Speaker 1: ways to me when you when you prepare for a

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Speaker 1: game that it just so happens. There's only one game

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Speaker 1: and that game is in about a week and a

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Speaker 1: half here, so um, you know, it's it's a great

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Speaker 1: opportunity for us to improve our football team. Yes, it's

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Speaker 1: should not surprise anyone that they do run through different scenarios, right,

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Speaker 1: that's what they do in the next week and a half.

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Speaker 1: We talked with Great Kosal about this last Friday. What

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Speaker 1: did teams do now? You know? And as he said,

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Speaker 1: your board should be set by now. Now you work

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Speaker 1: through the different things that could happen. Um. Well here

508
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Speaker 1: and being later in the day talking about how the

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Speaker 1: mock drafts that they will do among themselves the personnel

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Speaker 1: department start next Monday. I think he said they'll do

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Speaker 1: several They did them last year and they'll talk about

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Speaker 1: how much that helped last year. But included in this,

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Speaker 1: you know, kind of mocking out how the first round

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Speaker 1: might go and maybe even into other rounds, is do

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Speaker 1: we move up, do we move down? What opportunities will

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Speaker 1: be presented to us? Right, they're also going through now,

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Speaker 1: of course, the top of their board. They know those

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Speaker 1: guys really well because they're hoping to get one of them,

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Speaker 1: and they have been productive, their elite athletes all of that,

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Speaker 1: so they know all those guys pretty well. But when

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Speaker 1: it gets down into the third, fourth, fifth rounds, they

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Speaker 1: may have three guys playing three different positions, and they

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Speaker 1: got to sort those guys out. If all three of

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Speaker 1: those guys are available, those are the guys worth targeting.

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Speaker 1: Which one is best, which one is not? So if

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Speaker 1: any one of those three is not there the other two,

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Speaker 1: which one are you gonna pick? And also think about him,

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Speaker 1: So you're going you're gonna stand pad at nine. For instance,

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Speaker 1: the team at eight, which is and I can't remember

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Speaker 1: who it is now, the team at eight picks and

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Speaker 1: it is Detroit, Detroit picks. So there you are number nine.

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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, Detroit is a couple of unexpected

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Speaker 1: things happen, and there's some guys there on the board.

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Speaker 1: Something happens, and all of a sudden, you're on the

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Speaker 1: clock and Detroit does something unexpected. All of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: out of the blue. You have three phone calls you

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Speaker 1: gotta make. You gotta call Denver, you gotta call Chicago,

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Speaker 1: you gotta call whatever, New England or Miami. You pick

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Speaker 1: the teams you can Kansas City. Those three teams all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden come into play because of what they

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Speaker 1: have told you leading up to this draft. So you

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Speaker 1: gotta make all those phone calls, sort all that out,

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Speaker 1: and then make your pick based on whatever offers and

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Speaker 1: whatever things are in place. And you're on the clock.

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Speaker 1: You think to imagine that tension in that room. Oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, So you gotta be I mean, I can't

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Speaker 1: even imagine it, because you know, it's unbelievable the pressure

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Speaker 1: that is going on in that room when you're on

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Speaker 1: the clock and you're trying to sort through some offers

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Speaker 1: by two or three teams, and you gonna have conversations

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Speaker 1: you have had to have rehearsed at least, who's gonna

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Speaker 1: speak in the conversation? Yeah, well, I think they assigned

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Speaker 1: personnel chiefs to a handful of teams. You got these four,

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Speaker 1: You got these four, fee you do that well. Plus

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Speaker 1: it's not like it can't just happen, and then somebody

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Speaker 1: you can't even chime in. You gotta be saying that, listen,

557
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Speaker 1: in this situation, shut up because he's got to talk,

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Speaker 1: and he's gonna talk, and he's gonna talk, you know.

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Speaker 1: And then if there's a moment we have a chance

560
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Speaker 1: and then maybe you can chime in. But until then,

561
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Speaker 1: you gotta shut up because we've got three guys who

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Speaker 1: know what they're doing and they're gonna talk. And then

563
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Speaker 1: next time you have to be you can talk, and

564
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Speaker 1: then you have to shut up. So the room is

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Speaker 1: full of guys who know what they're doing, but it's

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Speaker 1: not their turn. You know what I'm saying. It is

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Speaker 1: crazy to think about the the tension and the pressure

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Speaker 1: that is in that room. And plus Kim and Terry're

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Speaker 1: gonna be sitting there too, so they and they've got

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Speaker 1: to be as up to speed as they can be.

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Speaker 1: I mean, oh my gosh, what a much fun? How

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Speaker 1: much fun? Yeah, if you're ready, I just had a

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Speaker 1: real vivid recollection of Brandon Bean last year. I can

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Speaker 1: I think it was the day after round one when

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Speaker 1: they got Tremaine and Josh Allen last year on our show,

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Speaker 1: sitting right over there, and just he was still buzzing.

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Speaker 1: He was still up about the way the way it

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Speaker 1: went down. He never expected to get the second first

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Speaker 1: rounder Tremaine Edmonds. That worked out great, and just the

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Speaker 1: buzz that was on in that room the night before,

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Speaker 1: and he was still feeling it the next day because

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Speaker 1: you know the thing is and when you see that

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Speaker 1: when he comes in, he was, I mean, he was

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Speaker 1: All of us were to get those two guys because

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Speaker 1: they knew, they really believed and you know, their their

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Speaker 1: career still has to be written, of course, yeah, but

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Speaker 1: they believe. They hit two back to back home runs.

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Speaker 1: They were there, two guys they fit. They really feel

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Speaker 1: like they hit it out of the park twice and

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Speaker 1: that's got to feel really good, you know, never expecting

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Speaker 1: to get both. Right. So one of the bills do

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Speaker 1: draft strategy. We'll talk with you about it when we

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Speaker 1: come back after the break. Should they move up, move down?

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Speaker 1: Stand pad at number nine? What do you think we've

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Speaker 1: got phone lines open to discuss eighth three five fifty

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Speaker 1: five fifty. Vote on our Twitter poll, or you can

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Speaker 1: weigh in on Twitter and we'll read some of those

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Speaker 1: tweets on the tweets sheet. Come on back draft strategy,

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Speaker 1: Help us out, help the Bills out. What would you do?

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Speaker 1: Move up? Move down to stand pad at number nine.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about it more when we return. One Goes

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Speaker 1: Live from One Goes Drive, And this is Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. I'm

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Speaker 1: John Murphy with Steve Tasker here until three o'clock to day,

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Speaker 1: Brian Baldinger joining us at one o'clock and even joining

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Speaker 1: us at two. Steve just barely joining us for this segment.

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Speaker 1: What are you laughing about? What are you doing? The

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Speaker 1: instigators are sitting around telling stories in there about old

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Speaker 1: time hockey, childhood dreams, you know, and uh, yeah, so

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Speaker 1: I want to hear some of those childs. I was

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Speaker 1: riveted to revey Goodtives is a great storyteller, Yes he is.

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Speaker 1: He gets intense. That's why he has a job he's got. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I can learn from him. I can learn a lot

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Speaker 1: of Yeah, not kidding all right. So our topic of

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Speaker 1: the day as we approach the draft nine days away,

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Speaker 1: should the Bills move up, move down or stay at

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Speaker 1: number nine in the draft? What do you think? Give

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Speaker 1: us a call eight oh three five fifty and toll

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Speaker 1: three one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty,

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Speaker 1: or you can do it on Twitter. Vote in the

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Speaker 1: Twitter poll where most of you, about fifty one percent

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Speaker 1: of you say they should try to move down. Give

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Speaker 1: us the reasons why you think that, or you can

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Speaker 1: vote in the Twitter poll, or you can you can

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Speaker 1: tweet something in and we'll read it on the air

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Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet. Give us a call, though, we

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Speaker 1: like to discuss with you because there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: we look, it's we've it's a basic Twitter poll question. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: if you can move down and still get a player

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Speaker 1: you want, you would do that, right, But let's talk

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Speaker 1: about that. Let's um, I think tis get into it

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Speaker 1: because you have to picture this also, because there's no

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Speaker 1: guarantees now because where you move up, and we don't

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Speaker 1: know the deals that would take to move up. We

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Speaker 1: don't know what we'd have to give up to move up.

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Speaker 1: We don't know what we would get for moving down,

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Speaker 1: and there's the so knowing that, the fact that there's

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Speaker 1: no guarantees beforehand and there's no guarantees after the fact,

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Speaker 1: I think moving down to me make I'm always kind

641
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Speaker 1: of uncomfortable going in with the majority, but I think

642
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: in this case, I gotta agree because of this the percentages,

643
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,479
Speaker 1: you get more picks, you have more chances to hit

644
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: a home run, to get the guy that overperforms. We

645
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: always talk about bus but it's hard to be a

646
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: bust as a seventh rounder. You know, it's only up

647
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: from there. It's always interesting to me, where like last

648
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: year where the Bills traded a seventh rounder, think for

649
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: what who was it, Corey Coleman or somebody like that.

650
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,959
Speaker 1: They traded a seventh rounder, and you know, the crows

651
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: on the fence always you know through like, oh, you

652
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: gave up a seventh rounder for Corey Coleman. What are

653
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: you doing? What are you doing? Well, they didn't and

654
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: they didn't say anything when they cut Austin Prole, It's like, oh,

655
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: you know, cut a seventh round after right, Yeah, it's

656
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: it's idiot. It's idiocy to think that. So you always

657
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: could hit a home run, but if you cut a

658
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: seventh rounders, it's like, all right, seventh rounder, plus you again,

659
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,719
Speaker 1: undrafted free agents coming in making big countries exact couple year,

660
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: so there's no guarantees. And I think the more guys

661
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,959
Speaker 1: you can get in the draft, the better, the more

662
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: chance Champ Kyle Williams was a fifth round pick. You know,

663
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: I do know, but I will you know he's an

664
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: outlier as far as fifth rounders. That's right, Tom Brady

665
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: is that the ultimate outlier is a sixth rounder. And

666
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: we always so if you want a sure thing, a star,

667
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: you know, you ever see the numbers, Not that the

668
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: Pro bowler is everything, but most Pro Bowl players are

669
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: first or second rounders. Most of them are. And it's

670
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: been historical to the last several years. And maybe it's

671
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: because we expect that from first rounders, second rounders, but

672
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: I think you also hear about these guys that you know,

673
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: the JaMarcus Russells in the world of Ryan Leaves of

674
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: the world, you know, the the josh U the receiver

675
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: from the winter in New England from Cleveland, Josh Gordon,

676
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: Josh Gordon's of the world. All these guys that flame

677
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: out and Buffalo has had their share of them. It's easier,

678
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: and I think there comes with there's an element in

679
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: it where these players get picked in the first round. Certainly,

680
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: some of them rise up to the occasion and they're

681
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: all of everything you've hoped they would be. But there

682
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: are also these guys that have that entitlement mentality that

683
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: kind of shut it down. I don't think you get

684
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: that as often when you get into a second and

685
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: third and fourth round. These guys show up no one, Hey,

686
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: I got a little something to prove here, let's go.

687
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: And I think you get a little bit out of that.

688
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: I think that mentality helps younger players early in their career.

689
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Speaker 1: One thing. And these I'll say today, nine days before

690
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: the draft, I'll probably say it a few times. Just

691
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: keep this in mind too, And I'm not talking to you,

692
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: I'm talking to myself. Keep this in mind. The draft

693
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: is great, and it's great fun, and it's great strategy,

694
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: and we're talking about draft strategy today, but it's not everything.

695
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: I mean, the draft does not take into account player

696
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: development and luck, and those are two key elements when

697
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: it comes to how good your team is and how

698
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: good a player is. Does he get good coaching, is

699
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: he in a system that will benefit him and showcase

700
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,719
Speaker 1: his talents. That's not decided next Thursday, right on draft day.

701
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: Does he stay healthy? That's not decided a week from

702
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: a Thursday. Those things are key when it comes to

703
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: player development and key elements and what you talk about

704
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: how sometimes fifth rounders rise up and sometimes first rounders

705
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: flame out. Luck and development, good coaching anyway, would Yeah,

706
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: to your point, is Tom Brady Tom Brady if he

707
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: gets drafted by Jacksonville. Is Peyton Manning? Peyton Manning if

708
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: he gets drafted by Cleveland in the day, you know,

709
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: is are these great players great players if they're drafted

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Speaker 1: by a team who didn't support them the way they

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00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: were supported by the team that actually did draft him.

712
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: You know, if if you could go back in time

713
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: and change all and I think for some of these

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00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: not all of them, but for some of these guys,

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00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: the answers, no, they wouldn't have been that way. They

716
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: would have been a different guy. And then there's the

717
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: other side of that, if this guy wasn't in that spot,

718
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: he would be he would have been much better, you

719
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So there's all that going on

720
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: as well. You're dealing with human beings who make their

721
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: own choices and who decide how they're going to live

722
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 1: their lives after they're drafted, just like they did before.

723
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Speaker 1: And sometimes their decisions aren't very good and it affects

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Speaker 1: the way their future is. Sure, So that's that's what

725
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: you're dealing with, all these unknowns. And yeah, I think,

726
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: and I'm far from an analytics guy, but you have

727
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: to do be a little analytical, a little bit dispassionate

728
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: when you draft these guys and when you prepare for

729
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 1: these things. Hey, let's get to your thoughts on this

730
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: trade up. If you're the Bill's trade up, move up,

731
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Speaker 1: move down on the draft or stay at number nine?

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00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: What do you think? What would you do? Eight fifty

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Speaker 1: two three eight five fifty two five fifty or on

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Speaker 1: Twitter we may read your tweets on air. Let's start

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Speaker 1: with Jim and Rochester. Hello, Jim, welcome, you're on the

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Speaker 1: air with us. I guess I always hit this question.

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Speaker 1: I hope you don't mind take a question from a

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Speaker 1: Giants fan. Go ahead, yeah, thank you're about this scenario.

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Speaker 1: Suppose it's the time for the Giants to draft at

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Speaker 1: number six, and they gave a call from Bufflo and

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00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: the Giants what the tight end from Iowa? Hockinson And

742
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: let's say they gave a call from Buffalo saying we'd

743
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Speaker 1: like to jump up to six and they work out

744
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: of trade. They already worked out of trade. Were the

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00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: two gms talk to each other about who they're taking?

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00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: Because I'm sure if the Giants found out that the

747
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: bells were taken Hockin said they wouldn't make that trade,

748
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: right or advice advices, I always wondered, Yeah, they talk?

749
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Speaker 1: Is that close? Do they tell each other who they're

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00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: going to take? Jim? It's a great question. I've often

751
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 1: wondered that too. I've asked gms and just draft decision makers.

752
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: Some guys will answer, you know, honestly, and some won't

753
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: because in the scenario you point out, yeah, if yeah,

754
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: we'll make that trade, you're not drafting our guy, are you.

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00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 1: I mean, there's got to be that that established, right.

756
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: But in other cases when I've asked and they say, no,

757
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: we weren't. We have a feeling who we think they're

758
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: interested in, but we didn't ask and they probably wouldn't

759
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 1: tell us. So I've got a lot of different responses.

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00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: That's a very good question. What they do is, in

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00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 1: my opinion, I think I envision it. Say Hockinson drops

762
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: to the Giants and the Bill and before this they've

763
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: had conversations, and the Bills will say, hey, listen, we

764
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: would be interested in trading up if the guy we

765
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: want falls to you without telling them who that is.

766
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: And the Giants will say, hey, we'll listen, but if

767
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: one of the guys we want falls to us, we're

768
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: probably not gonna want to make the trade. So because

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Speaker 1: we don't think he'll last till your number nine pick

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00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: if we're gonna flip flop picks. So the Bills, so

771
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 1: their guy calls falls and the Bills called they want Hockinson.

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00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: They call the Giants and hey, our guy, we want

773
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: to grab our guy because he's still on the board,

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00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: and the Giants say yes or no based on that

775
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: whether hockinson's their guy or not, you know what I'm saying.

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00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: So if Hockinson's there and the Giants want him and

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Speaker 1: they don't think he's gonna last till nine, whether they

778
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: know the Bills are picking him there or not, they'll say, no,

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00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna pick our guy. So they won't say who

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00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: that guy is, but they'll just say, listen, we've got

781
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: a guy we've got our eye on. If he falls

782
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: to you, we want to pick up the phone. We

783
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,919
Speaker 1: want to talk to you. And they'll say, okay, we'll listen,

784
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: and there it goes from there. So, yeah, they don't

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00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: talk about specific players because to do that, to prepare

786
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,439
Speaker 1: for this, and we've been talking about on the show,

787
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: you've got to have a lot of conversations before the

788
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: draft to lay the groundwork for these phone calls to

789
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: be picked up and be expedited quickly. So but they

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00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: do it without being specific about which player they're talking Jim,

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00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: Now that I think of it, I think a very similar,

792
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: if not almost exact situation happened between the Bills and

793
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos in the first round last year. Right

794
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: Bills were sitting there at seven, I believe at the time,

795
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 1: wanted to get Josh Allen five, and it was five

796
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: and Denver was sitting there, and I think the deal

797
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: with Denver was, if our guys still there, we're going

798
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: to take him. And their guy turned out to be

799
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: Bradley Chubb, right the running back, But if he had

800
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: not been there, I think the Broncos would have made

801
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: that trade. It's exactly the scenario Step just pointed out.

802
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: But I think Steve's right that is often not all

803
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: the time, but often the kind of deal that's made. Yeah,

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00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: we'll make that trade unless our guys aeron. We feel

805
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,919
Speaker 1: like we need to get him in right. Okay, thanks guys,

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00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: all right, Bet, thanks for calling. Question, really good question.

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Speaker 1: Zach on the line in Syracuse. Hello, Zach, welcome to

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00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: the show. Hi, how are you good? Good? I'm curious

809
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: about the drafting here. I'm thinking that the Bills shouldn't

810
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: just stay at number nine, but maybe also move up

811
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: and up another top ten pick, because I feel like

812
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 1: they should have another wide receiver as well as maybe

813
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: a defensive player. Wait a minute, Zach, move up and

814
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: get a second, like inside of top ten and keep

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Speaker 1: the number nine pick. Yeah? Wow, what are you prepare

816
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 1: to give up? What are you gonna give up for that? Well?

817
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: I wasn't sure because I know we have like what

818
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: ten other picks? Yeah, I don't know if you could

819
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: even get it done for all your other picks, you know,

820
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: another your other eight other picks or nine other picks

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Speaker 1: you'd have to give up. Probably you know, all of

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00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: those plus a number one next year, you know, in

823
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 1: the draft, or maybe a one in a two next year.

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Speaker 1: I would think next year's number one would definitely be

825
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: in playing. I don't hope I'm really willing to do that.

826
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 1: Are you don't have to give up a lot of picks?

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00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: See because and you're right, Zach, because mostly when you

828
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: trade in the first round, it means like if the

829
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: Bills want to trade there to get up in the

830
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: higher in the top ten, that means they're giving their

831
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,439
Speaker 1: number nine pick to the team they're trading with almost invariably,

832
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: unless you go way big and go you can have

833
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: next year's number one and our number two next year,

834
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: or this year's number two and next year's number one.

835
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: It's a big, big premium to keep your first round

836
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: pick this year and trade into the top because a

837
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: team is that's really I mean, you think about the Bills.

838
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: If somebody wanted to trade for this number nine pick

839
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: for the Bills without giving us a first round pick

840
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 1: in return, our first pick would be in the number

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00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: forty in this draft. Yeah, Unlike, think about the price

842
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: you'd have to get for that, And I don't know

843
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: if you can get it done. Speaking of big draft

844
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Speaker 1: day deals, I just read it this morning. Peter King

845
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: Football Morning in America yesterday wrote about as an anniversary

846
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: year for the big deal that sent Ricky Williams to

847
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: the Saints, when Mike Dicka wanted Ricky Williams and gave

848
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,919
Speaker 1: up his entire draft to Washington. I mean, huge deal,

849
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: and even the entire draft wasn't enough Washington. Cassually was

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Speaker 1: the Joe manager. I had to get a first rounder

851
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Speaker 1: I believe the next year too, to take that. I

852
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Speaker 1: mean they gave up a ton to get Ricky Williams,

853
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Speaker 1: and five teams passed on the deal. Is five teams

854
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: didn't take that deal. Yeah, Charlie Cassiles did the right thing.

855
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Speaker 1: He did. You gotta take that deal Ricky Williams. I

856
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,439
Speaker 1: don't care who. I don't care if it's Jim Brown.

857
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Speaker 1: They were saying, really in the Washington draft room, coaches

858
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: and scouts when the deal was presented. Everybody's like, we'll

859
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 1: take that. Yeah, we'll take that right now. Yeah, let

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Speaker 1: him go, let him let Ricky Williams. Yeah. And it

861
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,919
Speaker 1: wasn't a secret. Mike Dicka said all trade. He said

862
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: it like it publicly for Ricky Williams, who was good,

863
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: not great, not a great player. He didn't want to

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00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: play football. Yeah, amazing, All right, a break here, We're

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Speaker 1: coming back with more. We'll take more calls, read some tweets.

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Speaker 1: Should the Bills move up in the draft, move down

867
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Speaker 1: or stay pat at number nine? Let us know what

868
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: you think? One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive. This

869
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bills Radio. Okay, what do you think? Draft

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00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: now nine days away? Should the Bills move up in

871
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: the first round, moved down or stay at number nine?

872
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 1: What do you think? We're taking your tweets on this,

873
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: your calls on this. Jeremiah Ortiz tweets in that, tweets

874
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 1: this and other. Stay at nine then trade back into

875
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,439
Speaker 1: the draft? Did we offer other on today's Twitter poll?

876
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Speaker 1: I don't think we did, but I get you, Jeremiah Ortiz,

877
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: stay at nine and then trade back into the first Well,

878
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: how are you gonna do that? Jeremiah? What are you

879
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: gonna what are you You're prepared to give up another

880
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: first rounder, next year's first rounder to get back in

881
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: to get a second first round pick? Are we really

882
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 1: at that point? Is this draft and merit that sort

883
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: of a heavy cost is a player that you're thinking,

884
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, give us a call. I that's

885
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: a lot people are draft crazy this time of year. Steve, Yeah, yeah,

886
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: you don't like that from Tony Montgomery this on the

887
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: tweet sheet. I think moved down to move up in

888
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: the next two rounds. Being and McDermott do a good job,

889
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: and I think we could get more talent on the roster. Well,

890
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: you would hope. So you're moving down and getting more

891
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: moving down, you're gonna get more picks. I would love

892
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: to get more picks in the top three rounds rather

893
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: than just the three that they have. Then they got

894
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 1: you know, four picks over the scattered over those mid

895
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: de lay rounds. They got two picks in the fourth,

896
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: picks over the last four rounds, right, two picks in

897
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 1: the fourth, two picks in the fifth. But they've got

898
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 1: a first, a second in the third. I'd love to get,

899
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: you know, trade the fourth rounders or maybe the fifth

900
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,760
Speaker 1: two for fifth rounders one forty seven and one fifty

901
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: eight to get a third round, one third round or

902
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: even if it's in the nineties or the eighties, you know,

903
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 1: I'd to me that would be a movie. You get

904
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: but you know what that that's given two players for

905
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: one and this is a this is a deep draft

906
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 1: with some quality players. A lot of quality players um

907
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: out of the first round. So I don't know, I

908
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: just want more picks. I want more guys. I don't

909
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: want more seventh than six rounders though, you know, right,

910
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: I give away the seventh rounders and get jump into

911
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: the third if you can't. I don't know what the

912
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 1: I get the value is, but you know I'm that's

913
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: what I think too. The more picks you have closer

914
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 1: to the top of the draft, the better they're gonna be,

915
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: The better they're more they're going to contribute, and the

916
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: more home runs you're gonna hit with those guys. That's

917
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: all there is to it. So that's where you want

918
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: to be. And if any way you can get there,

919
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: I think even if it does sack, even if it

920
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 1: is sacrificing a top ten pick to get those you know,

921
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: late first, second, third round picks, I think you got

922
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Speaker 1: to do it. Call here on the line from David Florida. Hello, Dave, welcome, welcome,

923
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Speaker 1: How are you doing good? Doing great? Listen? All right,

924
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna looking at these free agent signings, and of

925
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: all of them, you only got two on defense. So

926
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: in my opinion is to stay where you're at. But

927
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Speaker 1: the other teams come to us for our pick, so

928
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: we get our hands on the defensive attack. We need

929
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 1: a nose tackle to replace Kyle Williams. What do you think, right?

930
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's been one of the guys they're

931
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Speaker 1: looking at throughout the draft process. So yeah, they're way

932
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: ahead of us. So yeah, they know exactly that, and

933
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: they also know probably how good those guys are going

934
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: to be or have an idea about it. Um. You know,

935
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Speaker 1: you can think about Rashaun Gary out of Michigan at

936
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Speaker 1: Oliver Brian Burns of Florida State and those are three

937
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: of them also. And if you get an edge rusher

938
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: like Montes, Sweat Fallow falling to the Buffalo Bills, which

939
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: is all this is really possible because of all the

940
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: unknowns of it. So yeah, there's no question. I think

941
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: most people know that the d line for the Bills

942
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 1: is an issue. But I think they do have some

943
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: some depth there. They got a lot of number of

944
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 1: guys who have some quality experience in the NFL. Now

945
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 1: there's no great names there there's no you know, um,

946
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: there's no Arnold in up a lot of space. Yeah,

947
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: that's right, I mean, and those guys are important. But

948
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: we've had analytics guys on our show saying that you

949
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: don't want to take one of those down inside guys,

950
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: you want to take a corner. And the Bills have

951
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: got a lot of good corns. Had Levi Wallace and

952
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: tarn Johnson emerged last year's really quality guys, and they

953
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: got EJ Gaines back in the fold as well in

954
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: this offseason. The Eja Gains from two years ago as

955
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: his stint as a Buffalo Bill made a big difference

956
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 1: for that team. But it's two years later now, the

957
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: analytics guys will tell you the corners are more important

958
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 1: than those down inside guys. All right, thanks, we're gonna break.

959
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 1: We're coming back with more. One goes Live from One

960
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. Brian Baldinger schedule to join us next hour.

961
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: Come on back for that. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio.

962
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 1: Healo Bills Radio Network story date. The update from One

963
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive tomorrow night. The NFL schedule that is released.

964
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: The Leagual announced the official twenty nineteen regular season schedule

965
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 1: tomorrow at eight pm. They'll do it live on NFL Network.

966
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: The announcement of the two hundred and fifty six game

967
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,439
Speaker 1: schedule played over seventeen weeks, which starts on September fifth,

968
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: comes just a week a week and one day before

969
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: the NFL Draft. The league has already announced that the

970
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: Packers and Bears will kick off the season, and the

971
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: NFL revealed the fortunes of the preseason schedule last week.

972
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: The regular season schedule comes out tomorrow. Seahawks and Russell

973
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 1: Wilson have reached agreement on a four year, one hundred

974
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: forty million dollar extension. It includes a sixty five million

975
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 1: dollars signing bonus. It makes the quarterback the highest paid

976
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 1: player in the NFL. Four years added to his contract,

977
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: Wilson is contractually tied to the Seahawks now through the

978
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three season. Carson Wentz, Eagles quarterback, says he's

979
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 1: not yet fully recovered from the stress fracture in his

980
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,919
Speaker 1: back that cuts short his season. He says it's still

981
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: getting there. Wentz first apart on the team's injury report

982
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: last October and miss the end of the year with

983
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: the back injury. Stanley Cup playoffs four more games. Tonight.

984
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 1: It is Game four and a chance for the Columbus

985
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: Blue Jackets to knock out the Tampa Bay Lightning Tonight.

986
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: The Black Blue Jackets lead the series three games to non.

987
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: They'll face off in Columbus tonight at seven o'clock. Also

988
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: in the East, tonight first round game Game four, where

989
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,479
Speaker 1: the Islanders up three games to non on Pittsburgh. They'll

990
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: play Game four tonight in Pittsburgh. Out West Game four

991
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: with Saint Louis and Winnipeg, and the Blues lead that

992
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: series two games to one. They'll play at nine thirty tonight,

993
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 1: and in the first round out West and Jose in Vegas.

994
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 1: Vegas leads the series two games to one. Game four

995
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: of that series coming up tonight. Fison scheduled game against

996
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: Pawtucket was postponed by rain last night. They'll make it

997
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: up part of a double header today. The first of

998
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: the two seven inning games begins at four oh five

999
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: this afternoon. And Duke basketball freshman Zion Williamson, the consensus

1000
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: college basketball Player of the Year, made it official late

1001
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: yesterday declaring his eligibility for the NBA Draft. He is

1002
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: by far the number one prospect in the NBA draft.

1003
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: That's the update from One Bill's ryme, John Murphy, Steve

1004
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: Tasker in our One Buffalo studio, thanks for joining us

1005
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: for our team. We're gonna connect, we hope with Brian

1006
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: Baaldanger from the NFL work get his thoughts on the

1007
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: draft and some of the prospects in the draft. He's

1008
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 1: done exhaustive film study, doing some work on the Jets

1009
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: right now as we speak, and hopefully we'll get him

1010
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: on the line to talk about us about Damn. Steve

1011
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: and I are talking about the draft today and draft

1012
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: strategy for the Buffalo Bills. Should the Bills move up,

1013
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: move back, or stay at number nine in the draft?

1014
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: What do you think? Give us a call eight oh

1015
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: three oh five fifty toll free from outside Buffalo one

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty on the

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00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: Twitter poell most of you behalf of you believe that

1018
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: as far as the draft strategy, the Bills should try

1019
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 1: to move down. They've got ten picks, three in the

1020
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: first three rounds, seven in the remaining four rounds. Most

1021
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 1: of you fifty one percent. Now it's down to forty

1022
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: nine percent. Forty nine percent of you say they should

1023
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: move down. Forty percent of you say they should stand

1024
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: pat at number nine. That's where I stand. Eleven percent

1025
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: say the Bills should try to move up. What do

1026
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: you account for that, Steve, The voting has changed. I

1027
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: think I've influenced some hearts in mind. That's the way

1028
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 1: I prefer to think of it. Yeah, and you're probably right,

1029
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: you're a persuasive guy. But standing pad, I don't think

1030
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: anybody wants to moving up. I think is crazy talk,

1031
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: which eleven percent of people want to move up because

1032
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: I think it's Listen, don't get don't be scared by

1033
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,720
Speaker 1: the draft number nine. You're gonna get a quality player.

1034
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: You don't need to move up because you don't want

1035
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: to give up any more draft picks, because there's always

1036
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: that opportunity to find a gem back in the back

1037
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 1: half of the draft, that a guy of a guy

1038
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: that's going to show up and turn into a really

1039
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:36,760
Speaker 1: good player and without the risk. And there's no guarantee

1040
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: that if you jump up to get a guy he's

1041
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 1: going to be any better than the guy you could

1042
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: pick at number nine. There's there's no guarantees there. Certainly

1043
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: you have some ideas maybe, but even if you're doing

1044
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 1: it to fill a need. I think that's in this

1045
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: particular draft where the Bills sit, and the strength of

1046
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 1: the players coming out in this draft, the depth of

1047
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: positions that are in this draft. It makes no sense

1048
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: for me for the Bills to move up because the

1049
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 1: quality of guys at the top of this draft on

1050
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: the defensive line and edge rusher and the three technique

1051
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: and a wide receiver or wherever you want to go

1052
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: with it, all the players that there are quality players

1053
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: that are going to be available at all those positions

1054
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: at number nine. So trading up and giving up assets

1055
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: to get a little better player is just not worth it.

1056
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 1: For the back end. The potential of the back of

1057
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 1: those drafts, where the other picks that you'd have to

1058
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: get up to give up to do it, the potential

1059
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Speaker 1: for those picks to turn into something really great is

1060
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: really real. So I don't think you want to do

1061
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: that in my opinion. So I agree with the eleven

1062
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 1: I disagree with the eleven percent that say move up.

1063
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: We gotta say this too, when we were talking about,

1064
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: you know, trading up potentially if they were, and what

1065
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: it would cost, we have I have you have in

1066
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: your hand the classic Jimmy Johnson trade valuation model. So

1067
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: points assigned to each selection in the NFL draft two

1068
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 1: hundred fifty plus selection. What are they worth? Now? Look,

1069
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,919
Speaker 1: teams violate this all the time, but it just gives

1070
00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: you a sense of what draft picks are worth. If

1071
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 1: the Bills wanted to move up, let's say, and wanted

1072
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 1: to package up their two fourth rounders, those two picks

1073
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: would be worth a total of one hundred eleven points,

1074
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: and that is two fourth rounders. With one hundred, one

1075
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 1: hundred eleven points, you could move up to the bottom

1076
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,879
Speaker 1: of the third round. So if you package up both

1077
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: of your fourth rounders, the highest you can move up

1078
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,240
Speaker 1: would be the bottom of the third round. One hundred

1079
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: eleven will put you at about the ninety eighth pick

1080
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: in the draft, so you would use your one hundred

1081
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 1: twelfth and one under thirty first to move up to

1082
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: ninety eight. So yes, ten picks is a lot, But

1083
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: don't get a thought in your head that you can

1084
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: take those two fourth rounders and get another first rounder.

1085
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: You cannot to get enough to get at the bottom

1086
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 1: of the first round. The Jimmy Johnson trade chart, you

1087
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 1: need five hundred and ninety points to get to the bottom.

1088
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: Last pick in the first round. The Bill's second round

1089
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 1: pick is worth five hundred, so you to move up

1090
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: to get another first round pick, you'd need to send

1091
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: away your second rounder and your third rounder at least

1092
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: to move up right. And that's again the Jim Johnson

1093
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 1: Trade valuation chart, which is not a law. It's not

1094
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 1: always predictive, but it has been over the years fairly predictive,

1095
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: at least not in terms you know what's funny. It

1096
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: sort of gives you a sense of how these picks

1097
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: are ranked, but it doesn't predict how the trades are

1098
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 1: actually made and what people actually do. Let's do things

1099
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: give you an idea. The first pick of the draft

1100
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: is worth three thousand points on this this little scale.

1101
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 1: The last half of the seventh round are worth one point,

1102
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: so it drops off significantly. The first pick is three thousand,

1103
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 1: the second pick is twenty six hundred, the third pick

1104
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: is twenty two hundred, the fourth pick is eighteen hundred,

1105
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: and then it turns into different increments. Now it's only

1106
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: one hundred points, so the fifth pick goes to seventeen

1107
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 1: sixteen fifteen fourteen, and Buffalo Bills at thirteen fifty at

1108
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: number nine. So it drops off incrementally every five four

1109
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 1: or five picks that you go down the draft board

1110
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 1: and the Bills, it drops from being one hundred one

1111
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: hundred point increments right of the Bills to fifty point increments.

1112
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: So I think if I was going to trade up,

1113
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 1: it would have to be because a guy like a

1114
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: Quinnon Williams, who's maybe the best defensive player, or a

1115
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 1: Nick Bosa, one of these guys who could be the

1116
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 1: number one pick of the draft, fell all the way

1117
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,959
Speaker 1: down to six, seven or eight, and then maybe flip

1118
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: over a couple of notches to get that guy, right,

1119
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:28,720
Speaker 1: give up your number one plus A two sevens or whatever,

1120
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: three threes or two threes, whatever would take you'd give.

1121
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: You'd flip flop first round picks and do what it

1122
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: took to get a transformational player like that because they

1123
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: dropped for some reason. Right. And if you're looking at

1124
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: so say in Steve scenario seven eight six seven eight,

1125
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 1: and if you're the Bills, you need to move up

1126
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: about one hundred and fifty two hundred and fifty valuation points.

1127
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 1: You need to give up your third rounder, let's say

1128
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: early third rounder. If you're the Bills to move up,

1129
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: that would be a bigger you'd almost have to give up.

1130
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: You could get away from giving up a fourth rounder,

1131
00:53:55,960 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: your first rounder thirteen fifty and you're fourth round or

1132
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:05,439
Speaker 1: worth you know, eighty or one hundred points. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1133
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 1: and then the third third round would get up to

1134
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: one hundred points. If you are at the back of

1135
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,399
Speaker 1: the third round of the Bills would be all clear

1136
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: up into the two twenty range. The pick number seventy four,

1137
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,800
Speaker 1: you give up the six pick seventy four and the

1138
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: number nine pick to get that number eight or seven pick,

1139
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,720
Speaker 1: you know, if you want to one or two spots.

1140
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: So it takes. It's a it's a seat price, but

1141
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 1: it can't be done. Mike in Holland, New York, on

1142
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 1: the line, thinks the Bill should try to move up. Mike,

1143
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: what do you gotta mind? What are you thinking? Yeahs Steve,

1144
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: you said the trading up is crazy talking. I want

1145
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: to trade up. Why do you hurt me like that?

1146
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 1: Why do you well? What would you? All right, here's

1147
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: the thing, Go ahead and give me a scenario and

1148
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: we'll break at break down what it might cost. Where

1149
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: do you want to go? Mike, before you do that,

1150
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:53,919
Speaker 1: who do you want to trade up for or what? Yeah?

1151
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: There you go. Well, let me just make my point, Okay,

1152
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: in order to I mean, we're here to win super Bowls, right,

1153
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 1: in order to do that, you gotta have Hall of

1154
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: Fame players now right now on our roster. Do we

1155
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: have of Hall of Fame players? I'm hoping Josh, Josh Allen,

1156
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:17,800
Speaker 1: maybe Tremaine Edmonds, but that remains to be seen. Okay,

1157
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 1: go ahead, get to your point. What so you got

1158
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: to have these guys, guys like Bruce Smith. We need

1159
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: guys like Steve Tasker. Steve Tasker ever won a Super

1160
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: Bowl and he's certainly not a Hall of Famer. And

1161
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: just this just in, Jim Kelly wasn't in the Hall

1162
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: of Fame, Thurman, Bruce Corns, Bennet, James Wawfer. None of

1163
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 1: those guys were in the Hall of Fame when they're

1164
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: in the league. Either. We didn't know anything that they

1165
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: were going to be do any of that stuff either.

1166
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't know that until after the fact.

1167
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: So we who in this draft? Do you think it's

1168
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: worth it? Well, I think you're right, Like you guys

1169
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 1: like Boza Um, Josh Allen, the guys Edward Rusher, ed

1170
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 1: Russers to have a shot. I mean the top, let's

1171
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 1: say ten players in the draft. I think any of

1172
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: the guys that the Bills are identified as really good players.

1173
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 1: And if if they need to add a seventh round

1174
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: draft choice to trade down, or a fourth or a

1175
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 1: third or a second, think it is going to be

1176
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: a study. Mike, they got a top ten player in

1177
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 1: this draft. They got number nine. Thanks Mike. Let's go

1178
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 1: to a Rocky in Las Vegas. Hello, Rocky, you're on

1179
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: the Airn't know where to go with the yes, Go ahead, Rocky.

1180
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: I was just wanted to say, you know, if we

1181
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: can get somebody good like Sweat or Oliver, even Hackets,

1182
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 1: and I think all those guys might be gone by

1183
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 1: the time we picked who's the first name you mentioned Sweat? Sweat,

1184
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 1: he might not be gone. He might be there at nine,

1185
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 1: but go ahead. Sweat might be there, but I don't know.

1186
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 1: I think somebody's gonna take him. But anyway, I was

1187
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: just thinking, if one of those the top guys are there,

1188
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: obviously both is gonna be gone. If none of the

1189
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: top guys are there, I think that we could trade bagging.

1190
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: If somebody's willing to come up and some of these

1191
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: that they want, we could we could trade back a

1192
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: few spots and you know, just get a couple of

1193
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 1: extra picks, maybe in the second round or even the

1194
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: third round, because you know a lot of those guys

1195
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 1: come up and they turn out being something good. No question,

1196
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 1: they're gonna get one of those guys. Ed Oliver Montes Sweat,

1197
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 1: one of those, a couple of those guys. There's a

1198
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: handful of guys. They're all gonna be available at number nine.

1199
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: One of them is without question, you're gonna be able

1200
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: to sit at number nine and you're gonna get a

1201
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: guy like Ed Oliver Montes Sweat or this the guy

1202
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: from Michigan, the pat the defensive Mshan Gary. You're gonna

1203
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: be able to get him, Brian Burns of Florida State.

1204
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: One of those guys is going to be available. You're

1205
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 1: gonna get a quality player at number nine at the

1206
00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: position you need, who's gonna be a really good pro prospect.

1207
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: So to trade up to get a guy who is

1208
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 1: what significantly better? I don't know it, right, I mean,

1209
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna get a guy from a short list of

1210
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: players at either defensive tackle or defensive end that are

1211
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: gonna be there at number nine. And also even if

1212
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 1: you trade it down, in my mind, if you traded

1213
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 1: down to sixteen or seventeen or eighteen to this draft,

1214
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: which would put you in the range with teams with

1215
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 1: teams like the Redskins, the Panthers, the Giants with their

1216
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: second pick of the first round, you could get one

1217
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 1: of those guys there too, because that's how many guys

1218
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 1: are in this draft at all these positions. So that

1219
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: my thought is, because of the depth of this draft

1220
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 1: at those positions, you can trade down and still get

1221
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 1: a quality player and get more chances to get a

1222
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 1: home run from an unexpected source down the line. So

1223
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: that's my point. So I think you're gonna be able

1224
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: to get one of those guys at number nine. You

1225
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:02,919
Speaker 1: don't have to trade up to do it. You're gonna

1226
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 1: get a good player. I don't know if you're gonna

1227
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 1: get the names you mentioned. I think you're gonna they're

1228
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: they're guaranteed a good player at number nine. Just kind

1229
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: of what flavor do you want? On the tweet sheet,

1230
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 1: we ask the question should the Bills move up, move down,

1231
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 1: or stay at number nine in the draft. Sip of

1232
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 1: the kool Aid tweets, and I think the goal should

1233
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 1: be to move down and get as many picks in

1234
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 1: the first three rounds as possible, even package some of

1235
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 1: your later round picks to get more picks in the

1236
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: first three rounds. But Sipping the kool Aid goes on,

1237
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 1: if there's a stud player that they graded highly that

1238
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: will impact, immediately take him. We can't have it both ways.

1239
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,439
Speaker 1: We're asking the question, do you want to stay pat

1240
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 1: or do you want to move down or move up?

1241
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 1: Sipping the kool Aid wants a little bit of both,

1242
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: wants a little bit of both. You can't do both. Look,

1243
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 1: I just think it will take a lot harder, he says,

1244
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: package some of your later round picks to get more

1245
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 1: picks than the third rounds. Again, going back to the

1246
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson chart. Right now, just for example, the Bill's

1247
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: third round pick is worth two twenty. If the Bills

1248
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 1: packaged together, as I said, both are their four rounders,

1249
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 1: they don't have enough to move up that high. They

1250
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: package together both are their fourth rounders, and maybe both

1251
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 1: are their fifth rounders. They can move up to get

1252
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 1: a third rounder, you know, a medium. You know, first

1253
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 1: third of the third round pick, so it's it's hard

1254
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 1: to move up, and teams ask for a lot to

1255
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 1: move up. And by the way, the draft valuation chart

1256
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: for trades does not take any consideration actual players who

1257
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: can also be traded away on draft days. They put

1258
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 1: a strong value on being on what the teams can measure.

1259
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 1: They put a strong value on the guy's physical presence

1260
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 1: in the room, when he walks in the room and

1261
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 1: when he's out on the field. What can you look

1262
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 1: at and say, Wow, he's way better A B and

1263
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 1: C here. He's taller, he's faster, he's stronger, he jumps higher,

1264
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: he's more athletic on the field, he has a great

1265
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: lateral movement. Those guys that filter to the top of

1266
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 1: that chart, they may not have been very good college

1267
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 1: players at all for whatever reason, but they filter to

1268
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 1: the top of the National Football League draft chart for

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Speaker 1: every team they are gonna get their chants to play

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Speaker 1: professional football because their physical ability sets them apart. That's

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Speaker 1: why it's expensive to trade assets to get into a

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01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 1: spot in the draft that will grab you a guy

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01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 1: that's genetically different. Those guys don't come along very much,

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01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: and when they do, they're gonna get every opportunity to

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Speaker 1: excel because coaches believe they can get the most out

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Speaker 1: of these guys, and coaches want the best tools to

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Speaker 1: work with, and these guys with the physical tools go

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Speaker 1: high in the draft. The guys down the lower parts

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Speaker 1: of the draft are just guys that are like you know,

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Speaker 1: all the other college players, all the other pretty good

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Speaker 1: football players that you can name. They're not genetically different,

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01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 1: they're not athletically different, and they're guys like that are

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01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 1: expensive in the draft, and that's why those top draft

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01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 1: picks it takes four draft picks to change to one

1285
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 1: draft pick, because those guys don't come along very often.

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01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 1: One more from the tweet sheet. Should the Bills move

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01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 1: up and move down or stay at number nine? From

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Speaker 1: RN Bills Fan, If Arizona is willing to trade back,

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01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: you move up to get Bosa. We have ten picks

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Speaker 1: with no real glaring needs, and there's plenty of quality

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01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: offensive linemen and receivers in the middle rounds. Three or

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01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 1: four draft picks for a solid D lineman for years

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01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 1: is worth it. This just in RN Bills fan, It'll

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01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 1: take more than three or four. I was and again,

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01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 1: if you believe in Jimmy Johnson trade valuation chart, which

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01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 1: is really all we have to go by. To move

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Speaker 1: up to number one overall where Arizona is where Bosa

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Speaker 1: is likely to go if he goes number one, or

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Speaker 1: he'll go up near the top of the first round.

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Speaker 1: You need virtually the entire rest of the bills draft

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01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 1: to this year. You can use next year's picks if

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01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 1: you want to move up, if you want to make

1303
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 1: that kind of a move. But that's how much it

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01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 1: costs to move up to high first round, first in

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01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 1: the first round where Bosa would be. That's how much

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01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 1: it costs. It would cost all your first three round picks. Oh,

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01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 1: my goodness, cost it'll cost Yeah, it would, it would

1308
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 1: literally would. It would cost your your top In fact,

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01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 1: three rounds about eighteen hundred points, and the Arizona pick

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01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 1: as worth three thousands. So first three rounds just doing

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01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 1: need a thousand points. You add up the whole rest

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01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 1: of the Bill's draft. It's not a thousand points you'd

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01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 1: have to go. You'd have to go high second next year.

1314
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 1: You have to get a second round next year as well.

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01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 1: You have to give all the most of the picks

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01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 1: this year if not all of them, and next year's

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01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 1: number two. That's steep. Yeah, the first pick bos is

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01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 1: going to be good, but you want to give up

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Speaker 1: your entire That's that is what we talked about a

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Speaker 1: minute ago. That's a Ricky Williams type of trade. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you do that for for both

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01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 1: and that's you. You've there's got to be a Bruce

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01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 1: Smith at the top of the draft for that to happen. Yeah, right, yeah,

1324
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 1: somebody like that. Chris is on the line in Buffalo.

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01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Chris, you around the air with this. What

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01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:59,439
Speaker 1: do you think? Hey, I think we should trade back

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Speaker 1: with their first pick with a quarterback needy team like Miami,

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01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 1: which would gain us a couple hundred points according to

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01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 1: that chart, which would give us enough to trade back

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Speaker 1: into the first with our second round pick in that

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01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 1: third round pick with someone like Indi, say or So

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01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 1: or Oakland's second round picks, so we can get one

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01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 1: of those top three tight ends. So yeah, we could

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01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 1: trade back with Miami. Miami sitting at thirteen, so we

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01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 1: trade back four spots at thirteen, and then you're saying,

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Speaker 1: use whatever we get from Miami to do that. Their

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01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 1: second round pick plus our second and third, and they

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Speaker 1: get back into the first round to get another first

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01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 1: round pick later than thirteen. Is that what you're saying. Yeah,

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01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 1: so we could get d Line with our freight and

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01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 1: then hopefully one of those top three tight ends with

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01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 1: our second pick. Yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna say

1343
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 1: it won't happen. It's a complicated. It's a complicated scenario

1344
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 1: that you're spelling out. But you're right, you're gonna get

1345
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 1: some assets for trading back, even a couple of spots,

1346
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 1: which is either a couple of players draft picks or

1347
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 1: you know, it's just you're just stand pat where you

1348
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 1: are and you and just pick in the spot that

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01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 1: you get from Miami. It's it's a really interest and

1350
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 1: it's complicated. And I'm not saying it didn't happen, because

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01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 1: it happened last year. The Bills traded back or traded up,

1352
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 1: then they traded back, and then they traded back in.

1353
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, all that stuff can happen. And you know,

1354
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 1: they're jumping through hoops and doing all the mental gymnastics.

1355
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 1: They have to to stay alert and to be ready

1356
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 1: to do that with all these teams and Miami's the

1357
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 1: perfect range of what you're talking about. Going from nine

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01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 1: down to thirteen is kind of what I'm talking about

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01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 1: as well. Chris, let me ask you this, and it's

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Speaker 1: non draft question, but about your scenario, you'd be comfortable

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Speaker 1: helping providing Miami with a first round quarterback draft pick?

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01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 1: Why not? We already have our quarterback because there you

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01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 1: gotta play him twice a year, That's why not. I

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Speaker 1: mean he's in the division. Well, answer, you're comfortable helping

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01:05:56,280 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 1: out a division rival answer their biggest need, So their

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01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 1: biggest question. I don't think I am. Well, they're giving up,

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01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 1: you know, a pick to us. So there's many picks

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01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 1: in the draft that way too. Like there's two sides

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01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 1: of that too, Murph. You may hope they take a

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01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 1: guy like Haskins because you've scouted him. You don't think

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01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 1: he's that good. You hope they take that guy. You

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01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 1: hope they take Kyler Murray. I think he's a system quarterback.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I know what you're saying. Yeah, Okay,

1374
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 1: I think your hope is they can't find an answer

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01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 1: at quarterback that they're forced to go with Ryan Fitzpatrick.

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Speaker 1: I think you're hope. You let them scramble to find

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Speaker 1: an answer. You don't help them find an answer. You

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01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 1: help them them scramble to find their answer, or you

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01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 1: usher them to the wrong answer. Well, okay, see what

1380
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, that's okay, that's what Chris and

1381
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 1: I are thinking. All right, Okay, you know what I mean.

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01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 1: I know what you mean. I just think I'm more

1383
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 1: comfortable saying you you fix your quarterback problem. We want

1384
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 1: nothing to do with helping you fix your quarter Yeah.

1385
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 1: Well you fix your quarterback with this guy. Yeah, right,

1386
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 1: that that's what you're thinking. I think that's the kind

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01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 1: of arrogance that you were talking about teams should not

1388
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 1: have going ahead. You might be right about it. Here's

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01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:00,040
Speaker 1: a call from Mike and Amherst. Hello, Mike, you're on

1390
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 1: the air. You know, I think we got to remember

1391
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 1: that we don't have a stud receiver on our team

1392
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 1: at this point. You know, we shared up the receivers

1393
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 1: compared to the worst receiver record in the league last year,

1394
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 1: So I mean we got easily, and we got you know,

1395
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 1: John Brown, but that's not top end talent. And I

1396
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 1: think what you have to remember is we're going to

1397
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 1: have to beat Kansas City. Okay, we're going to have

1398
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 1: to still beat New England. We're gonna have to beat

1399
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 1: the teams that can put up thirty five forty points.

1400
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 1: And as great as a defensive end someone might be,

1401
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 1: they're not going to score points for you. And so

1402
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 1: I think in an offensive driven league, I think we

1403
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 1: cannot make the mistake again of taking defense when the

1404
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 1: only way you're going to beat these teams is by scoring. Mike,

1405
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:50,959
Speaker 1: let me just stop you and ask you a question,

1406
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 1: because I don't disagree with you, But who is the

1407
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 1: answer you're talking about a big time receiver. If that

1408
01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 1: guy was obvious out there, if the if the answered

1409
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 1: to the Bills needs a receiver, we're obvious in the

1410
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 1: top ten, I think it'd be an easy selection, as

1411
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:08,439
Speaker 1: you just pointed out. But I don't know that any

1412
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 1: of them are that obvious. And I think that's why

1413
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 1: you start to say, would we be better off with

1414
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 1: a defensive player than reaching? This is a reach. You're

1415
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 1: talking about a reach, aren't you? Well? You know, yeah,

1416
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 1: you're right. You know. You got Hockinson, you got fans,

1417
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 1: you might have Metcalfe. There's an outball that comes out

1418
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 1: out of nowhere. But I can tell you this, I'd

1419
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 1: rather take my chance and have a player on the

1420
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 1: field that can actually score points than have a defensive

1421
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:38,600
Speaker 1: end on the field or a defensive tackle that's not

1422
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 1: going to score points. Yeah, I guess I don't want

1423
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 1: to take chances. Yeah, you want to minimize the chances

1424
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 1: being taken. Yeah, you're thinking right now, the Bills need

1425
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 1: a wide receiver worse than they need an edge rusher

1426
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 1: or a defensive lineman. That's basically what you're telling saying, right,

1427
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 1: I think they need a guy that's going to help

1428
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 1: them to score because I don't think you're going to

1429
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 1: be Kansas City with the defensive end. Yeah, there's no question.

1430
01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:00,080
Speaker 1: That's one of the issues that they've been facing, and

1431
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 1: they were facing all of last year. They just couldn't

1432
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 1: score enough points. Their defense was top five, no question

1433
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:09,680
Speaker 1: about it. That's they've got to change that. They've got

1434
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,640
Speaker 1: to score more points to win football games. And what

1435
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 1: you're saying is right in the midst of it. Now,

1436
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 1: if they can score points without doing that, I get

1437
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 1: it when you're saying they didn't they don't have a

1438
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:20,680
Speaker 1: top flight guy. I think they've got one of the

1439
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 1: best slot receivers in the league right now on their roster.

1440
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 1: So I think you need more than a slot though,

1441
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 1: and I agree with Mike on this, you need. In fact,

1442
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:31,600
Speaker 1: our two o'clock guests, Andy Benoid's gonna talk about this

1443
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 1: because they make the case that that's Buffalo's number one need,

1444
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 1: and I love it is phrasing. Let me find it

1445
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 1: about what the Bills need most of all And they

1446
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 1: say receiver, biggest need wide receiver. No top guy to

1447
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 1: build around. They say, yes, John Brown and Cole Beasley

1448
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 1: good editions. Still no top guy to build around, And

1449
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 1: I think that's what Mike saying. But look, we're not

1450
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 1: operating in a vacuum here. This is the draft class.

1451
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 1: This is who you have, right, tell me who is

1452
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 1: the guy who would become a top guy and without

1453
01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:00,600
Speaker 1: a chance, taking, without a risk, without a reach. The

1454
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 1: one thing, the one thing that we have all the

1455
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 1: we talk about, all these unknowns, the one thing we

1456
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 1: do know is the names of the guys. So if

1457
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 1: you can pick one of those guys and say that's

1458
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:12,679
Speaker 1: the guy we need to get at number nine, he's

1459
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,680
Speaker 1: gonna make the difference. Okay, But most people like you

1460
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:20,599
Speaker 1: and me, Murph Okay, DK Metcalf, nice combine, but yeah,

1461
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:23,600
Speaker 1: there's some stuff that. Ay, he's not he doesn't have

1462
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 1: a big body of work, he's a little injured, and

1463
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 1: he's young. Okay, well that's a bigger roll of the

1464
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 1: dice than a guy like Deebo Sweeney, right, Deebo Samuel,

1465
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 1: who has a bigger body of work. But he's when

1466
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 1: they lined all these guys up together, this guy kind

1467
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 1: of rose to the top of all these guys once

1468
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 1: they got on the field. So all right, now it's

1469
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 1: a coin flip. The problem is there's not a guy.

1470
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 1: There is no Julio's Jones or a j Greene or

1471
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins in this draft class that we know of,

1472
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 1: and so I'm all four getting that guy like that.

1473
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 1: But who is it? Are you comfortable? Reaching? Is the

1474
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 1: issue at number nine? Who is good? Point? Let's go

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Speaker 1: to count on Grand Island. Hello, Coln'm go ahead, you're

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Speaker 1: on the air. Hey, Hey guys, how you doing great show?

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Speaker 1: As always? Uh? Thank you. Here's here's my scenario. I

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01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 1: think I only see one team with the Raiders. They

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01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 1: have twenty fourth and twenty seventh pick overall. I'd like,

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01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 1: I don't know the exact points off the top of

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01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 1: my head. But if we could move down quire those

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01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:30,160
Speaker 1: two from them, I think that we have enough points

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01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:32,680
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, and then it leaves us a

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01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:35,559
Speaker 1: lot of options here. I mean, according to NFL draft

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01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 1: dot Com drafts, they got the four guys that they're

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01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:40,600
Speaker 1: looking at. We could pick up anybody from text or

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01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:45,839
Speaker 1: Lawrence and either Mark keys Brown the receiver at Oklahoma,

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01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 1: or even no Offan out of Iowa. So well, actually,

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01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 1: goad count, what are you gonna have to give up

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01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:55,759
Speaker 1: to get the twenty fourth and twenty seventh overall picks?

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01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 1: Gonna if you give up your ninth your knife and

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01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 1: I think it didn't believe it or not. I think

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01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:02,600
Speaker 1: they probably might even own us a little change if

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01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 1: I'm not. Yeah, you're right. I just look at the points.

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01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 1: There's about ten points difference. Again, these points are not

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01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:10,839
Speaker 1: absolute and there's no guarantees, but there's about ten points difference.

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01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:13,839
Speaker 1: So that seems like something that someone could argue, Buffalo,

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01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 1: you can come out of nine and you move down

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01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 1: to twenty four and twenty seven that I would make that.

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01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 1: I think I might make that deal. I think I might.

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01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:23,599
Speaker 1: You know what I would feel better, Steven Cal. If

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01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:26,559
Speaker 1: the Raiders were really gung ho about a quarterback, which

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01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 1: it appears they're sending signals this week that they're not

1504
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 1: interested in drafting a quarterback now after some speculation they

1505
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 1: might be. That would be the motivation for Oakland right

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01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 1: to go up to nine if their quarterback was there.

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01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 1: Here's your question. Cal. You can sit there and say

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01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:43,639
Speaker 1: that about Buffalo, but they could also the Oakland Raiders

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01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 1: could also make that deal with Detroit. Well yeah, but

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01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 1: by my whole point is at Leics should give them.

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01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 1: It's a win win situation as far as the trade goes.

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01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 1: Now they got a four and a nine. If they

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01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 1: do want to go up and get a quarterback, they can,

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01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 1: and it's a win win for us because even after that,

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01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:01,639
Speaker 1: all those extra sets, with the fourth, the extra fourth,

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01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 1: the extra fifth, we could maneuver if you want to

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01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 1: go up and maybe there still is a you know

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01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 1: what's like a Farrell the defensive end, if he still

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01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 1: on the board, right, So it gives us so much more.

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01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 1: It gives us so many more options to maneuver around

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01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 1: with two extra first that's all I like. And we

1522
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 1: can address both sides all the ball that we both need.

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01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 1: And there's no way in hack hack with that other guy.

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01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 1: They want to help out Miami. No way. I'm old

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01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 1: school man. Let Miami burn, you don't, That's what I'm saying.

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01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 1: And listen, that's a great idea. If you rub your

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01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:33,560
Speaker 1: hands together and say, yeah, look at Miami. Here's and

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01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 1: here's the only thing I cautioned guy against cal is

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01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 1: it's such a good idea. Why would the Oakland Raiders

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01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 1: do it? Well, you need to create you need and

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01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 1: the Bills can't really do this. Someone needs to generate

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01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 1: some market, a market in Oakland. Someone needs to get

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01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 1: John Gruden. He's excitable. Get him all excited about a

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01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 1: player that might be gone in the first ten. Right,

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01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:57,560
Speaker 1: that's what you're saying, cal right exactly. And you know what,

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01:13:57,680 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 1: you got the ninth and the fourth. If they really

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01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 1: want botha they could get them. If they want Kyler Murray,

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01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 1: they could get them. That gives them a lot more options,

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01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 1: and they need more quality guys as well as we do.

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01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 1: But I think it's a win win for both of us. Yeah,

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01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 1: it's true, because like Oakland's got number four and that

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01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 1: would give them number nine and the Bills would move

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01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 1: from number nine and take number twenty four and twenty

1544
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 1: seven in this draft like a deep draft. That's a

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01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 1: pretty good deal for both teams. You're right, it gives

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01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:22,679
Speaker 1: them two top ten picks instead of three overall first

1547
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 1: round picks because they've also got the thirty fifth. Well

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01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 1: it's the thirty fifth overall pick for Oakland, so they

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01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 1: would go from Yeah, I like that, Yeah, Yeah, I

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01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 1: like that. That's a good move. Cal And that's a

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01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 1: that's a pretty astute observation as well, that that's a yeah,

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01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 1: I like it, all right, Cal Banks, good idea. We're

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01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 1: gonna take a break. That's trading back though, so I

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01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:49,720
Speaker 1: win that counts as trading back. Okay, we're coming back

1555
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:51,680
Speaker 1: when more. One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive on

1556
01:14:51,760 --> 01:15:06,720
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. A lot of draft talk today, Well

1557
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 1: you would expect it, right, schedule comes out tomorrow night.

1558
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 1: Draft is nine days away. John Murphy, Steve Tasker, Welcome

1559
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 1: to the show, One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive.

1560
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 1: Halfway through, we're here until three trying to come together

1561
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 1: a guest lineup somewhere. Everybody's busy. All the draft guys

1562
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 1: that we like to talk to, Ballinger and Ivennoid. They

1563
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:25,719
Speaker 1: had a lot going on, and so we're just trying

1564
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 1: to hang in there as long as we can. We

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01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 1: should point out Steve that today day two of the

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01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:33,880
Speaker 1: offseason voluntary conditioning program, here at one Bill's Drive, it

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01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 1: looked like about the same number of players working out.

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01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:37,679
Speaker 1: We don't take a tendance or anything, but it struck

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01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 1: me today how yesterday was all fresh and new and upbeat.

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01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 1: Today it seemed like it was business like, didn't It

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01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, back to work, you know, and that's good.

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01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 1: Right then. It amounts to a little bit more than

1573
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:51,800
Speaker 1: a half day for these players, coming early in the morning,

1574
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 1: go through their conditioning work. They split them up into

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01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:57,320
Speaker 1: offense and defense, I believe, and they meet a little

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01:15:57,320 --> 01:16:00,760
Speaker 1: bit with their position groups. It's all just conditioning work.

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01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:02,680
Speaker 1: No position to work with anybody yet as far as

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01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 1: on the field, but a lot of conditioning work. And

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01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:08,640
Speaker 1: I believe today or tomorrow they start the Iron Bills competition,

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01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:11,679
Speaker 1: which would be what the third year under Sean McDermott

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01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:14,559
Speaker 1: that may be even predated Sean McDermot. Here where basically

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01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 1: conditioning competition among all these players something to shoot for

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01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:20,680
Speaker 1: from now until the end of minicamp in June. Yeah,

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01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:23,639
Speaker 1: they divide into two equal teams and we've got captains

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01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 1: and all that stuff, and they go at it and

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01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 1: it's it turns fun then. I'm sure for these guys,

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01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 1: I'm sure it gives them a little extra stuff to

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01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 1: play for more. It gives them a bonding, experienced teaming

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01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:34,599
Speaker 1: up and stuff. It's it's a great idea. It's gay

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01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:37,600
Speaker 1: two of the organized I'm not gonna say OTAs of

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01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:41,879
Speaker 1: the voluntary offseason conditioning program Phase one. Hey. Sean McDermott

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01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 1: talked to the media yesterday and again there's no position

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01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 1: to work yet, no throwing, no passing drills. But as

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01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 1: you might expect, there are a lot of eyes on

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01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, the second year quarterback now getting ready for

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01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:53,719
Speaker 1: his second year, and McDermott was asked about him yesterday,

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01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 1: asked if he's excited to see Josh Allen working with

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01:16:57,200 --> 01:17:01,720
Speaker 1: his new receiving teammates Cole Beasley and John Brown, And uh,

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01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 1: here's listen to what McDermott said about Josh Hanley. Kind

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01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 1: of get an acclaim me to do this new group

1601
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:08,360
Speaker 1: of wide receivers. I think it's pretty interesting. Here' Sean

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01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 1: McDermott from League yesterday. Josh has his own work to do,

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01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:14,560
Speaker 1: you know, and a lot of work to do in

1604
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 1: that regard. And then to develop the rapport with the

1605
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 1: with the receiving corps, whether it's tight ends, wide outs, backs, um,

1606
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 1: that'll be important. And the more reps we get, hopefully

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01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 1: the better we'll get. And so the great part about

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01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 1: today is there a lot of energy and a lot

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01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:34,920
Speaker 1: of enthusiasm around what we're doing and the new players

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01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 1: we have in the building and added those players to

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01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 1: the to the players that we're already here. Um, it's

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01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 1: a nice mix, and it's it's fun to watch guys

1613
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 1: find their routine this time of year and get to

1614
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 1: know one another. That's really what the what phase one

1615
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 1: for us is or a big piece of it is

1616
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:53,759
Speaker 1: all about for guys that may have played on opposites

1617
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:56,760
Speaker 1: on opposite teams now to be you know, side by

1618
01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 1: side in the locker room and share stories, get to

1619
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 1: know one another, build that love for one another that

1620
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 1: uh embodies all good football teams. You mentioned as a

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01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 1: follow up to sound you mentioned that obviously Josh has

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01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 1: his own work to do to develop to the second

1623
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 1: year But what kind of statement does it make that

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01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 1: as an organization who surrounded him with so much potentially

1625
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 1: a whole loose love of starters to surround him, that

1626
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 1: you expect him to elevate to that love to where

1627
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:32,640
Speaker 1: he's going to make all this investment payoff? Is that?

1628
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 1: Where did that rent? You know? How's that factory? Either?

1629
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:38,280
Speaker 1: Thinking with him, well, i mean, I'm sure a number

1630
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:40,559
Speaker 1: of the guys will be that were starters last year.

1631
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 1: You know, there's there's they're going to start this year,

1632
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 1: So there's some there is some carryover those positions, whether

1633
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:48,840
Speaker 1: they're you're new or you've been here a year or

1634
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:51,759
Speaker 1: two years. Those positions are earned in terms of starting

1635
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 1: and who starts who doesn't start. But with respect to

1636
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 1: Josh's development, it's that is important. His development on the

1637
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 1: field and office feels is important. And this phase one

1638
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 1: allows us an opportunity to really go back and review

1639
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:11,720
Speaker 1: and start from scratch, and we talk about boulders, kind

1640
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 1: of a boulders and rocks and pebbles type of analogy

1641
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:16,560
Speaker 1: and how we teach in our progression in our classroom.

1642
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 1: Right now is the time to go back and really

1643
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 1: master the boulders. The foundation of what we do offensively,

1644
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 1: and it's neat to see the room in there that

1645
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 1: everyone's very eager to learn and go back and build

1646
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:32,800
Speaker 1: that strong foundation. There you go John McDermot yesterday talking

1647
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 1: about first Josh Allen and then more about building the foundation.

1648
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:40,720
Speaker 1: You know what the most interesting words of McDermott's two

1649
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:43,559
Speaker 1: minute answer there to meet Steve the first four or five.

1650
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 1: Josh has his own work to do. Here's why. Look,

1651
01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:49,320
Speaker 1: Josh had a good year last year, good first year,

1652
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 1: get out of the gate, pretty good last year. But

1653
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 1: the acknowledgement publicly by the head coach that he's not

1654
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 1: a finished product. He's got work to do. He's got

1655
01:19:57,280 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 1: his own work to do. He's got work to do

1656
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 1: to develop rapport with both the new receivers and to

1657
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 1: redevelop report with the receivers back from last year. And

1658
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 1: that'll be work. And I like the fact that this organization,

1659
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 1: as much as they like Josh Allen what he did

1660
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 1: last year, as much as they're invested in Josh Allen,

1661
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 1: as much as the questions were all about, you know,

1662
01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 1: adding players around Josh Allen, they also know that he's

1663
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:21,720
Speaker 1: got work to do. He's got to get the report done.

1664
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 1: It's not something they can even coach him into doing. Really,

1665
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 1: you know, getting once they start throwing, getting timing downe

1666
01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:29,680
Speaker 1: with all these new receivers and re establishing timing with

1667
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:31,720
Speaker 1: the old guys. I liked that about their approach to

1668
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:36,719
Speaker 1: Josh Allen second year. Yeah. I agree, He's he's gonna

1669
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 1: have work to do. He's got a lot more work

1670
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:42,639
Speaker 1: this year than he did last year. And the best

1671
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:44,960
Speaker 1: part about it is he's gonna get more chances to

1672
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:49,360
Speaker 1: do that work. There's no question. I think they love

1673
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:51,640
Speaker 1: the guy they drafted. They think this guy is the

1674
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:53,679
Speaker 1: limit for Josh. And there were times, and I've said

1675
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:55,400
Speaker 1: it before on the show, like this last game. We're

1676
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:57,680
Speaker 1: seeing highlights on MSG right now, get that last game

1677
01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:00,599
Speaker 1: against Miami and Buffalo. Who's the best player on the field.

1678
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 1: But he's got to get better. He's he's and the

1679
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 1: key thing is now is his work this year starts

1680
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:14,360
Speaker 1: where he left off as the starting quarterback a year ago.

1681
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:17,719
Speaker 1: It's not like he has to come in new offense,

1682
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:20,200
Speaker 1: new head coach, new offensive coordinator. And you look at

1683
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Speaker 1: the rest of the division except for in New England,

1684
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 1: of course, which is you know, those guys they carved

1685
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:28,560
Speaker 1: that roster and granted at the top of it, this

1686
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:30,720
Speaker 1: is the He's the only one in this division other

1687
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 1: than Tom Brady who has that. Everybody else got a

1688
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 1: brand new head coach, everybody else got a brand new

1689
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. Everybody else has got a whole new thing.

1690
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 1: You know, in Miami, you don't even know who that's

1691
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 1: gonna be. But Sam Darnold's up against it. He's got

1692
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 1: a new head coach, new offense to learn, he's got news,

1693
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:51,719
Speaker 1: he's got new guys to get used to. Josh Allen

1694
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 1: is ahead of that curve and and he's got to

1695
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:58,800
Speaker 1: build from that point forward and keep going. Because we saw,

1696
01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:01,640
Speaker 1: we talked about it, and that's the theme of their

1697
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:04,639
Speaker 1: entire offseason. When you talk about this guy was week

1698
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:08,840
Speaker 1: by week, even a casual fan could see, Oh, he's

1699
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:10,679
Speaker 1: doing that better this week than he did last week.

1700
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:12,479
Speaker 1: Oh he's doing that better this week than he did

1701
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 1: last week. There were tangible, easily observed improvements in his

1702
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:19,639
Speaker 1: game week to week. He's got to keep it up. Yep.

1703
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 1: That's his work, and work is the key here right

1704
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:25,480
Speaker 1: coaching Obviously, you would think the playbook will be expanded,

1705
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 1: but work is the key and as you point out,

1706
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 1: the extra snaps he gets because he's not split in

1707
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 1: time with two others who may or may not wind

1708
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:34,760
Speaker 1: up as starters. Right, it's fairly well established that he's

1709
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:36,760
Speaker 1: going to be the starter when the season opened, so

1710
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:38,639
Speaker 1: he didn't have to worry about splitting up first team

1711
01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:42,520
Speaker 1: reps with anybody else. And there's just a better familiarity

1712
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:45,559
Speaker 1: with this organization and with the life in the NFL,

1713
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:48,120
Speaker 1: which should serve him extremely well. I think in the

1714
01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:50,040
Speaker 1: months ahead and the months that lead up to the opener.

1715
01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:52,879
Speaker 1: Every time you see one of these quarterbacks get drafted,

1716
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 1: like the Jamis Winston's of the world or whoever you

1717
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 1: know that, Marcus Mariotas of the world, and all those

1718
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:02,719
Speaker 1: guys that have been even Derek Carr. Those kind of guys.

1719
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 1: The ones who are successful are the ones that have

1720
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:09,000
Speaker 1: the same head coach, the same coordinator through their first

1721
01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 1: couple of years. And that means, you know, they got

1722
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:12,720
Speaker 1: off to a good enough start that those guys all

1723
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 1: didn't get fired. Yeah, but it One of the common

1724
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 1: denominators for quarterbacks who struggle is the fact that they're

1725
01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 1: changing offensive systems, changing coaches, changing this guy, changing receivers changing,

1726
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 1: you know, offensive philosophies year after year after year, and

1727
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 1: a lot of it is has to do with the

1728
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:34,600
Speaker 1: fact that the guy's not successful enough early on to

1729
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 1: warrant the same coaching staff coming back. Josh was this

1730
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:41,439
Speaker 1: and everything came together right for him to have this,

1731
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:44,680
Speaker 1: So we'll see. This gives me great hope that his

1732
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 1: sophomore year is not going to be a sophomore slump.

1733
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 1: It's going to be a sophomore step forward. It's going

1734
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 1: to be an emergence. That's you know, that's his plan.

1735
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:55,679
Speaker 1: You know that another thing you said too, Murphy about

1736
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 1: you know, coming in and he's got work to do.

1737
01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:00,800
Speaker 1: He's got this rapport. It's not like he has to

1738
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 1: figure it out on himself. Right. The same coaches that

1739
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 1: saw him all last year, Brian Dable saying, hey, listen,

1740
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:08,640
Speaker 1: you know, think about this, think about this, and this

1741
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 1: is one of the things you need to take a

1742
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:12,160
Speaker 1: step forward and he can start working on that stuff now.

1743
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 1: And a new quarterback coach, all those but he was

1744
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:18,280
Speaker 1: he's not he's new to him, but he was in

1745
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:20,840
Speaker 1: the building, right, you know what I'm saying, Wasn't he

1746
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:23,760
Speaker 1: no Dorsey? Right? Oh? I'm sorry, Yeah, that's right. So

1747
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 1: that but as of May, I still think there's a

1748
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:30,280
Speaker 1: base here where these guys have seen him and say, listen,

1749
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 1: this is something you need to do work on. So

1750
01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:33,600
Speaker 1: now it's not like he has to go out and

1751
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:36,560
Speaker 1: figure I say, well, maybe I'll maybe I'll work on

1752
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 1: my quick release. No, no, no, here's what you need

1753
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:40,639
Speaker 1: to work on. Here's what we saw. So it's really

1754
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 1: a good base to go forward and make some improvement.

1755
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:45,519
Speaker 1: And he's got a quarterback room that's the same one

1756
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:49,599
Speaker 1: that he left last January December, right, so he knows

1757
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:52,400
Speaker 1: those two when everybody's in town and getting back in

1758
01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 1: that quarterback room, that it'll be a benefit. I think

1759
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:56,680
Speaker 1: a big benefit, right that the three of them know

1760
01:24:57,360 --> 01:24:59,439
Speaker 1: what they did last year. Where they're coming from. I

1761
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:02,960
Speaker 1: would I would be I'm dying to know. We'll never know,

1762
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 1: but I'm dying to know what this year's playbook. The

1763
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:09,880
Speaker 1: subtle differences they might be putting in for Josh Allen

1764
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:12,439
Speaker 1: in these early meetings right here in April, just kind

1765
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 1: of introduction, Hey, Josh, you know how we did this

1766
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:16,280
Speaker 1: last year, this is what we're gonna do this year,

1767
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:17,680
Speaker 1: or you know what we didn't do last year, we're

1768
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 1: gonna introduce this year. Here it is, and maybe your

1769
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 1: favorite game, the Dolphin game, plays into that. Josh, look

1770
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 1: how much success we had with a short passing game

1771
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:28,200
Speaker 1: and the timing passes against the Dolphins in the season finale.

1772
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 1: We're gonna do more of that this year. Dying to

1773
01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:33,040
Speaker 1: know what that dialogue is like, we'll never know. And

1774
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:35,040
Speaker 1: I don't know that there was even that much difference

1775
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 1: about the Miami game plan or the way they did it.

1776
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:39,519
Speaker 1: But what he said and what I think what more

1777
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 1: was was, Josh, here's the mindset I want you to have.

1778
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:44,720
Speaker 1: I know we saw it all last year and you

1779
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:46,720
Speaker 1: see it in all the highlights. He pushes the ball

1780
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:48,720
Speaker 1: down the field. You guys got him by don't want

1781
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:51,760
Speaker 1: to lose that, right, That's that's already there. He's got

1782
01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:54,280
Speaker 1: that in his pocket. But the thing is, give yourself

1783
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:56,439
Speaker 1: more chances to make throws like that by taking this

1784
01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 1: throw over here on third down or second down, even

1785
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 1: take the easy throw. He completed sixty five, just shy

1786
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:06,719
Speaker 1: of sixty five percent of his passes in Week seventeen

1787
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:09,519
Speaker 1: last year against the Dolphins, and the reason he said

1788
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 1: was he goes well, that was the plan. We just

1789
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:13,320
Speaker 1: wanted to take the easy completions and get it going.

1790
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:17,639
Speaker 1: We've said at a gazillion times on this show, because

1791
01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 1: we're neck deep in it. Josh Allen says, well, he's

1792
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:24,280
Speaker 1: got his spotty in his accuracy. Doesn't doesn't really, he's

1793
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 1: not an accurate thrower, and I don't. I don't buy it.

1794
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:28,880
Speaker 1: We see him all the time he throw. It goes

1795
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 1: where he's throwing, it goes right where where he wants

1796
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:34,160
Speaker 1: it to go. The different The thing that keeps him

1797
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:39,200
Speaker 1: from having a sixty five completion percent completion percentage, let

1798
01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 1: me spit that out. The thing that keeps him from

1799
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 1: completing that many of his passes like all these other

1800
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:46,439
Speaker 1: guys do, is because he takes the hard throw all

1801
01:26:46,479 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 1: the time. He pushes it down the field too much.

1802
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 1: And when they finally said, hey, hey, hey, he's up

1803
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:55,360
Speaker 1: take the easy one. When they did that, in one week,

1804
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:57,599
Speaker 1: he went from fifty three percent to sixty five percent.

1805
01:26:57,640 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's going to happen every week from

1806
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:01,800
Speaker 1: now on because he made that one decision, but all

1807
01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:04,840
Speaker 1: but because he made that one decision, it shows you

1808
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 1: that he can do it, you know, to be a

1809
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 1: good Twitter type poll as the season approaches. Much too

1810
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 1: early now, but guess let's guess what Josh Allen's complete percentage? Yeah, okay,

1811
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 1: you know, fifty seven percent over and under. You know

1812
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:21,880
Speaker 1: what I mean, that'd be really interesting. It'll say a

1813
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:23,920
Speaker 1: lot about Josh, It'll say a lot about the type

1814
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:26,639
Speaker 1: of offensive running. It'll say a lot about the targets

1815
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:29,120
Speaker 1: that he has. I mean, that was that was constant

1816
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 1: throughout last season as they struggled to find healthy, competent

1817
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:36,840
Speaker 1: receivers who knew where to line up. That was an issue, right,

1818
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:40,519
Speaker 1: And if that issue is gone, that will help the

1819
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:44,160
Speaker 1: complete a percentage to right. Yeah, you agree with me.

1820
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:47,639
Speaker 1: I agree with you, But much to my chagrin much

1821
01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:49,080
Speaker 1: as you hate, as much as I hate to say it,

1822
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:50,519
Speaker 1: I do agree with you. It's it's going to be

1823
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:55,880
Speaker 1: interesting because that's that's critical and going forward though, I

1824
01:27:56,680 --> 01:27:59,200
Speaker 1: like we said, you know, it's it's a very optimistic

1825
01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 1: six and tim six and ten franchise sitting here in April,

1826
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:05,479
Speaker 1: the happiest six and ten team in America for a reason.

1827
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 1: We've talked about that a lot. We're gonna talk more

1828
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 1: about the draft and the Bills draft strategy when we return,

1829
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:12,400
Speaker 1: do they move up, move down, under stay at number nine?

1830
01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 1: What do you think? Phone lines moment if you'd like

1831
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:16,800
Speaker 1: to discuss eight oh three oh five fifty or twell

1832
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Speaker 1: three one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty

1833
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:21,720
Speaker 1: or sending a tweet, we might read it off the

1834
01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:24,519
Speaker 1: tweet sheet. One Bills I presented by Kalida Health from

1835
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:34,320
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. And this is Buffalo Bills Radio one

1836
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:37,120
Speaker 1: Goals Live from One Bill's Drive. John Murphy, Steve Tasker.

1837
01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:39,519
Speaker 1: We're gonna get back to our question of the day

1838
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:42,160
Speaker 1: about the draft and draft strategy. We're nine days away

1839
01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:43,760
Speaker 1: from the drafts of the Bills. Move up, moved down?

1840
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:45,640
Speaker 1: Stay at number nine? What do you think we'll get

1841
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 1: back to that. We got a couple of minutes left

1842
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:50,360
Speaker 1: here and really the big NFL news overnight Steve Russell Wilson,

1843
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 1: and it happened late I think it was three am,

1844
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:55,559
Speaker 1: right around twelve midnight West Coast time. Russell Wilson agreed

1845
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 1: to a four year, one hundred forty million dollars deal

1846
01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:02,800
Speaker 1: with the Seattle Seahawks. What if I told you a

1847
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 1: couple of months ago that Russell Wilson would be the

1848
01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:10,320
Speaker 1: highest paid player in the NFL. What would you have said? Really? Right?

1849
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:13,320
Speaker 1: But he's averaging more than two million dollars more than

1850
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:15,800
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. He's got one hundred and forty million dollars

1851
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:20,280
Speaker 1: deal total guarantee in this contract, one hundred and seven

1852
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:25,120
Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed. Sixty five million just to sign your name.

1853
01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:27,640
Speaker 1: And for our listeners who who have never signed an

1854
01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:32,360
Speaker 1: NFL contract, I have. And once you sign that, not

1855
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:37,280
Speaker 1: that dotted line, you get a check for the first

1856
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:42,439
Speaker 1: sixty five million bones. What do you do with that?

1857
01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:45,439
Speaker 1: I don't want to touch that check with your federal

1858
01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:48,840
Speaker 1: and state withholding, you know. Right, So he probably took

1859
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:54,439
Speaker 1: home one fifty forty five million in New York state

1860
01:29:54,479 --> 01:29:57,400
Speaker 1: at least thirty five he took home forty probably forty

1861
01:29:57,439 --> 01:29:59,400
Speaker 1: six point five million. Yeah, what do you do with

1862
01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:01,240
Speaker 1: that check? Notice? How I did that public math? Right

1863
01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:04,760
Speaker 1: in my head? What do you do with that? I

1864
01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:06,760
Speaker 1: don't know what you do at checks like that. You

1865
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:09,559
Speaker 1: can't cash it. I know that you gotta put it somewhere,

1866
01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:11,600
Speaker 1: but in small bills? The can I have it in

1867
01:30:11,680 --> 01:30:15,559
Speaker 1: small unlmarked bills? That's uh, that's a great contract for him.

1868
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:17,880
Speaker 1: It's gonna stay that. He's probably gonna be the highest

1869
01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:21,519
Speaker 1: paid quarterback this season as we approach it, after this

1870
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:26,320
Speaker 1: next season, after this season, isn't it Mahomes? They had

1871
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:27,960
Speaker 1: to pick up the option on Mahomes? Right, I have

1872
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:29,479
Speaker 1: to decide what they're gonna do. Have to decide what

1873
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:31,040
Speaker 1: they're gonna do. And they're not going anywhere with him.

1874
01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:32,720
Speaker 1: But he'll be the probably the next guy in line

1875
01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:36,639
Speaker 1: who breaks the bank unless somebody jumps out. Maybe Goff,

1876
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:39,040
Speaker 1: Jared Goff would jump off the charts. That'll be his

1877
01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 1: time to come up as well. Uh, Carson Wentz is

1878
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:45,000
Speaker 1: gonna come up? Or is he already up? Did they

1879
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:47,920
Speaker 1: already sign him? Yeah? Yeah, he already signed. So all

1880
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:50,479
Speaker 1: these you know, it's it's just one guy after the other.

1881
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:52,840
Speaker 1: But that's uh, that's quite a deal. Good for him.

1882
01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:55,479
Speaker 1: One hundred and seventy million dollars guaranteed a couple of

1883
01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:57,840
Speaker 1: interesting things that as I read more about this deal

1884
01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:00,880
Speaker 1: this morning, did you know that? Um? Well, he had

1885
01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:04,000
Speaker 1: a great year. Russell Wilson did m thirty five touchdown

1886
01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:07,720
Speaker 1: passes just seven interceptions, a career low passer raining of

1887
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:10,200
Speaker 1: one hundred ten point nine. He earned it, but he

1888
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:13,679
Speaker 1: only attempted four hundred and twenty seven passes, his fewests

1889
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:16,720
Speaker 1: in the last five years. The Seahawks were one of

1890
01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:21,400
Speaker 1: the league's most run heavy offenses. So he's productive, he wins,

1891
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:24,880
Speaker 1: he seems to be a pretty good leader. He does

1892
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:27,439
Speaker 1: almost everything you want a quarterback to do. But in

1893
01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:29,439
Speaker 1: an era when people say, well, you need to put

1894
01:31:29,479 --> 01:31:32,519
Speaker 1: the ball in the air, well, Seahawks don't. They really didn't.

1895
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:34,599
Speaker 1: One of the most run heavy offenses in the NFL

1896
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 1: with a very productive quarterback, so they're probably capable of

1897
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:40,439
Speaker 1: throwing it more, and yet they did not much last year.

1898
01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:42,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what that says other than, you know,

1899
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:45,920
Speaker 1: tap the brakes a little bit on. It's a passing league.

1900
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:47,559
Speaker 1: That's that's what might take from it. I think one

1901
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:49,040
Speaker 1: of the things too, you have to tip your hat

1902
01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:51,880
Speaker 1: to the Seahawks four is they they had that legion

1903
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 1: of boom defense when Russell Wilson was drafted. They came out,

1904
01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:57,479
Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl, got to another one, and you know,

1905
01:31:57,800 --> 01:32:01,519
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson throws that infamous reception on the slant route

1906
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:06,000
Speaker 1: and all the ripple effects from that. But the Seahawks

1907
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:10,360
Speaker 1: have stayed very competitive while switching from that legion of

1908
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:14,280
Speaker 1: Boom defensive kind of dominated team to a Russell Wilson

1909
01:32:14,439 --> 01:32:17,599
Speaker 1: led run oriented offense. And they're still winning. They're still

1910
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:20,439
Speaker 1: playing competitive football, getting to the playoffs and doing that

1911
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:24,200
Speaker 1: kind of thing. They're still a tough out and they're

1912
01:32:24,240 --> 01:32:26,759
Speaker 1: doing it now that they had to pay their quarterback

1913
01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:28,679
Speaker 1: because you know, they went to the Super Bowl twice

1914
01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:32,360
Speaker 1: with him on his rookie deal. Now they've managed to

1915
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:35,320
Speaker 1: stay competitive as they've evolved away from that and they're

1916
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:39,360
Speaker 1: I think Pete Carroll and they do a nice job

1917
01:32:39,479 --> 01:32:43,320
Speaker 1: staying competitive, evolving into a different team than they were,

1918
01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:45,040
Speaker 1: and they went to the Super Bowl. Still competitive, still

1919
01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:47,680
Speaker 1: winning games, still getting the playoffs, but you know, not

1920
01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:49,479
Speaker 1: the same. They don't look the same. One more thing

1921
01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:51,680
Speaker 1: about the Russell Wilson deal which strikes me a little bit,

1922
01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:55,080
Speaker 1: and it's more of a contractual thing. How he engineered

1923
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:57,680
Speaker 1: this to happen when it did April fifteenth. You know,

1924
01:32:57,760 --> 01:33:00,760
Speaker 1: he put a deadline and artificial for the deadline to

1925
01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:03,680
Speaker 1: be yesterday midnight today. Other than the fact that that's

1926
01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:06,599
Speaker 1: what Russell Wilson said, right his contract not expiring any

1927
01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:08,120
Speaker 1: and one more year to go. They could have done

1928
01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:11,360
Speaker 1: it at any time, including after the upcoming season, and

1929
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:14,640
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson forced the issue, got what he wanted a

1930
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:18,000
Speaker 1: deal done before midnight April fifteenth. He stated that he

1931
01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:23,000
Speaker 1: got it. In some ways, I think this indicates maybe

1932
01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:26,479
Speaker 1: is a sign of a different way for big money players,

1933
01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:28,840
Speaker 1: and there's not a lot of them, thankfully, but a

1934
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:31,760
Speaker 1: different way for big money quarterbacks to dictate not only

1935
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 1: do I want this amount, this is what I want

1936
01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:35,640
Speaker 1: to buy, or we're not doing a deal right. His

1937
01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:39,679
Speaker 1: statement was we're doing a deal by midnight April fifteenth,

1938
01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:41,880
Speaker 1: or we're not doing a deal, and he meant ever

1939
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:44,680
Speaker 1: doing a deal right. He forced the issue, which is

1940
01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:48,320
Speaker 1: a lot of authority in the hands of players. I think, yeah,

1941
01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:50,800
Speaker 1: there's not too many guys that can get that done.

1942
01:33:50,840 --> 01:33:54,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you've seen Antonio Brown and Leveon Bell. It

1943
01:33:54,240 --> 01:33:55,920
Speaker 1: took Levion Bell two and a half years to get

1944
01:33:55,960 --> 01:33:58,200
Speaker 1: free agent hits free agency, and it cost him money

1945
01:33:58,240 --> 01:33:59,719
Speaker 1: to do it. But he wanted to make the statement.

1946
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:02,240
Speaker 1: He wanted to be his own guy, and he did it.

1947
01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:05,720
Speaker 1: More and more we're seeing players just say, you know,

1948
01:34:05,880 --> 01:34:08,920
Speaker 1: because let's face, Russell Wilson was on his this is

1949
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:12,759
Speaker 1: his third contract, he already had a he's he's already

1950
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:15,040
Speaker 1: got a stack of cash in his pocket, just like

1951
01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:18,160
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown did. So the guys who have made a

1952
01:34:18,240 --> 01:34:21,040
Speaker 1: pile of money know that if they want to, you know,

1953
01:34:21,320 --> 01:34:24,560
Speaker 1: hit it big, they can make some demands and not

1954
01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:27,439
Speaker 1: worry about, you know, being that guy, not worry about

1955
01:34:27,479 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 1: being out of the league, or not worry about it

1956
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:31,880
Speaker 1: because they've already you know, hit the lottery, so to speak.

1957
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:35,880
Speaker 1: So to do it again. They can dictate the die.

1958
01:34:36,080 --> 01:34:37,760
Speaker 1: They can dictate and I think more and more the

1959
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:41,000
Speaker 1: players are deciding they'll do that. Not only do I

1960
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:44,000
Speaker 1: want this amount of money, I want it by here.

1961
01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:46,559
Speaker 1: By then that's a deadline. I mean, in many ways,

1962
01:34:47,160 --> 01:34:49,200
Speaker 1: it's kind of a follow up to what Antonio Brown

1963
01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:53,080
Speaker 1: did to the Steelers, right, a little different because Russell

1964
01:34:53,080 --> 01:34:56,120
Speaker 1: Wilson is the exact antithesis of everything that Antonio Brown

1965
01:34:56,200 --> 01:34:59,360
Speaker 1: made himself out to be. But he dictated Antonio Brown did, Yes,

1966
01:34:59,400 --> 01:35:01,200
Speaker 1: he did, he did. I don't know if it's a

1967
01:35:01,280 --> 01:35:05,080
Speaker 1: positive development. More power for players, and again a small

1968
01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:08,320
Speaker 1: amount of players, right, just a handful of He'll grow though,

1969
01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:10,960
Speaker 1: that'll grow larger. Why wouldn't you test it. Why wouldn't

1970
01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:13,320
Speaker 1: you say, hey, well maybe I can. Bell did and

1971
01:35:13,439 --> 01:35:15,760
Speaker 1: I think he lost the test, and he got he got,

1972
01:35:15,880 --> 01:35:17,559
Speaker 1: he got put in his place. Now he can say

1973
01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:19,479
Speaker 1: whatever he wants and spin it. But that thing cost

1974
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:25,280
Speaker 1: him eight digits, you know, eight digits that cost him.

1975
01:35:25,560 --> 01:35:28,320
Speaker 1: That's big. But he wanted to do it. And so

1976
01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:30,719
Speaker 1: at this point, it's still only guys like Russell Wilson,

1977
01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:34,160
Speaker 1: guys who are great leaders, community guys. Never had a

1978
01:35:34,200 --> 01:35:36,760
Speaker 1: problem with him. The teammates love him. He's played well,

1979
01:35:36,880 --> 01:35:39,840
Speaker 1: he's never caused a problem. He's not causing a stink.

1980
01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:43,360
Speaker 1: He just said, listen, here's my deadline. Here's what it means.

1981
01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:47,560
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding, right, And and but he's working with

1982
01:35:47,640 --> 01:35:50,560
Speaker 1: an organization like the Seahawks, who are like, you know what,

1983
01:35:50,680 --> 01:35:53,720
Speaker 1: we need this guy. The CAP's going up every year.

1984
01:35:54,080 --> 01:35:55,880
Speaker 1: Let's throw it out here, see what and let's work

1985
01:35:55,880 --> 01:35:57,080
Speaker 1: with him, and let's see if we can get out

1986
01:35:57,080 --> 01:35:58,560
Speaker 1: to a good point too. The cap goes up a

1987
01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:01,439
Speaker 1: lot every year, which changes everything. All right, we come back,

1988
01:36:01,479 --> 01:36:04,559
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk more about the draft. Our guest lineup

1989
01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:07,599
Speaker 1: has evaporated. Steve, what did you do you scare all

1990
01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:11,040
Speaker 1: these people off. What hap the words out? So when

1991
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:12,800
Speaker 1: we come back, more of Steve and I. You're stuck

1992
01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:14,200
Speaker 1: with us for the final hour of the show. But

1993
01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:16,479
Speaker 1: we got a lot to talk about, including the schedule

1994
01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:19,000
Speaker 1: which comes out to tomorrow night, but mostly about the

1995
01:36:19,120 --> 01:36:22,120
Speaker 1: draft and what the Bills draft strategy should be. Move up,

1996
01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:23,960
Speaker 1: move down, stay at number nine. What do you think

1997
01:36:24,160 --> 01:36:26,400
Speaker 1: we'll get back to your phone calls eight three five

1998
01:36:26,479 --> 01:36:29,160
Speaker 1: fifty and toll free one eight eight eight by fifty

1999
01:36:29,240 --> 01:36:32,320
Speaker 1: two five fifty. Also the Twitter poll when we return

2000
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:35,160
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio,

2001
01:36:41,240 --> 01:36:45,800
Speaker 1: Hello Bills Radio Network. Sports Days update comes from One

2002
01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:48,960
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. Tomorrow night, NFL schedule comes out. The league

2003
01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:51,320
Speaker 1: an out today that the official twenty nineteen schedule will

2004
01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:54,519
Speaker 1: be released tomorrow night, eight pm on the NFL Network.

2005
01:36:54,680 --> 01:36:57,000
Speaker 1: So it's two hundred and fifty six games over seventeen

2006
01:36:57,040 --> 01:36:59,720
Speaker 1: weeks starting September fifth. We know that the Packers in

2007
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:02,080
Speaker 1: Bear will kick off the twenty nine season, one of

2008
01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:06,160
Speaker 1: the storied rivalries in history, commemorating the NFL's one hundredth anniversary.

2009
01:37:06,280 --> 01:37:08,160
Speaker 1: The rest of the schedule to be revealed including the

2010
01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:11,280
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. Sixteen games slate tomorrow night at eight o'clock.

2011
01:37:11,600 --> 01:37:13,920
Speaker 1: Big news in the NFL early this morning, Seattle and

2012
01:37:14,040 --> 01:37:16,840
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson reached agreement on a four year, one hundred

2013
01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:20,240
Speaker 1: forty million dollar contract extension. It includes a sixty five

2014
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:23,240
Speaker 1: million dollars signing bonus that makes Russell Wilson the highest

2015
01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:26,679
Speaker 1: paid player in the NFL four years added to his contract.

2016
01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:30,040
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, thirty years old, now contractually obligated to the

2017
01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:33,800
Speaker 1: Seahawks through the twenty twenty three season. Carson Wentz says

2018
01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:36,759
Speaker 1: he's still not yet fully recovered from the stress fracture

2019
01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:39,799
Speaker 1: that cut short his twenty eighteen season. A stress fracture

2020
01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:42,799
Speaker 1: in his back. It happened in October, discovered in December

2021
01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:44,960
Speaker 1: through a scan. At the time, it was said the

2022
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:46,800
Speaker 1: injury would take about three months to heal. It's been

2023
01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:49,960
Speaker 1: four months, and Carson Wentz told reporters in Philadelphia yesterday

2024
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:52,559
Speaker 1: he is not quite there yet. Stanley Cup Hockey Tonight

2025
01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:56,280
Speaker 1: four series continue in the East. It is Game four

2026
01:37:56,439 --> 01:37:59,200
Speaker 1: with the Tampa Bay Lightning staring at elimination, down three

2027
01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:02,719
Speaker 1: games to none to eighth seed Columbus seven o'clock faceoff

2028
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:06,080
Speaker 1: tonight in Columbus the Islanders and Pittsburgh. The Honitors can

2029
01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:09,040
Speaker 1: out the Pittsburgh Penguins. Tonight. It is Game four of

2030
01:38:09,120 --> 01:38:11,080
Speaker 1: that series and the Islanders up three games to none.

2031
01:38:11,120 --> 01:38:13,479
Speaker 1: That's a seven thirty face off out West. Game four

2032
01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:15,600
Speaker 1: is Saint Louis and Winnipeg. The Blues at home to

2033
01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:18,160
Speaker 1: play the Jets. Saint Louis leads that series two games

2034
01:38:18,200 --> 01:38:20,320
Speaker 1: to one. That's a nine thirty face off, And at

2035
01:38:20,360 --> 01:38:23,400
Speaker 1: ten thirty tonight, Game four of San Jose and Vegas.

2036
01:38:23,720 --> 01:38:25,960
Speaker 1: Vegas leads that series two games to one. That game

2037
01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:29,519
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas tonight coming up at ten thirty. Bisens

2038
01:38:29,560 --> 01:38:31,560
Speaker 1: have a double header schedule today. They're making up a

2039
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:34,360
Speaker 1: game that was postponed by rain in Pawtucket last night.

2040
01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:37,599
Speaker 1: Today they play a doubleheaders two seven eighteen games begins

2041
01:38:37,640 --> 01:38:40,760
Speaker 1: at four or five this afternoon. And Duke freshman Zion Williamson,

2042
01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:42,960
Speaker 1: player of the Year in Comics Basketball, made it official

2043
01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:48,760
Speaker 1: league yesterday, declaring his eligibility for the NFL Draft. And

2044
01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:51,080
Speaker 1: that's the update from One Bill's Drive, John Murphy and

2045
01:38:51,080 --> 01:38:53,680
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker in our One Buffalo Studio Hour three. You

2046
01:38:53,800 --> 01:38:56,120
Speaker 1: ready for one one more hour of this. We're on it.

2047
01:38:56,720 --> 01:38:59,120
Speaker 1: Everybody's jumping on board this because everybody loves to be

2048
01:38:59,200 --> 01:39:00,960
Speaker 1: a general manager in the NFL and they want to,

2049
01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:03,519
Speaker 1: you know, think of the problem is this, And here's

2050
01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:05,080
Speaker 1: what I want you to do before you call in,

2051
01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:08,960
Speaker 1: and you're all welcome to do that, think about your

2052
01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:11,720
Speaker 1: trade and why and you like it. If you're a

2053
01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:14,320
Speaker 1: Bills fan, I get it. It's you know, you listen

2054
01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:17,519
Speaker 1: to us because of that. If it sounds too good

2055
01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:19,640
Speaker 1: to be true. For if you're willing to make this

2056
01:39:19,840 --> 01:39:23,320
Speaker 1: trade as a Bill's general manager, think about why the

2057
01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:26,840
Speaker 1: other team would not, because that's really the question. It's

2058
01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:29,160
Speaker 1: finding a partner. And as good as it may look

2059
01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:31,400
Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills, it may not be good enough

2060
01:39:31,439 --> 01:39:33,479
Speaker 1: for the team that you're thinking about trading with, or

2061
01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:36,840
Speaker 1: up or down or sideways. And we've we've had some

2062
01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:42,080
Speaker 1: help with this this draft law, with this draft valuation

2063
01:39:42,439 --> 01:39:45,120
Speaker 1: of each pick graph that has put together and a

2064
01:39:45,160 --> 01:39:47,320
Speaker 1: lot of NFL teams used, if not all of them.

2065
01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:50,599
Speaker 1: It starts with a valuation of the first overall pick

2066
01:39:50,640 --> 01:39:53,800
Speaker 1: of the drafts were three thousand points. It drops significantly

2067
01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:56,680
Speaker 1: down through the draft until you get down to the

2068
01:39:56,840 --> 01:39:59,920
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty fourth pick, which is the last

2069
01:40:00,280 --> 01:40:02,240
Speaker 1: and that's worth one pick. Now, it doesn't go down

2070
01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:05,800
Speaker 1: point by point obviously, it drops in increments and you

2071
01:40:05,880 --> 01:40:08,920
Speaker 1: have to add other some picks, lower picks together to

2072
01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:11,640
Speaker 1: add to higher picks. So that's kind of where the

2073
01:40:11,800 --> 01:40:16,679
Speaker 1: draft room and draft trade process starts with, and that's

2074
01:40:17,439 --> 01:40:19,439
Speaker 1: where you have to start if you're a want to

2075
01:40:19,479 --> 01:40:21,479
Speaker 1: be general manager as well. For our show, and keep

2076
01:40:21,520 --> 01:40:25,719
Speaker 1: it in mind, the it's called the Jimmy Johnson Valuation chart.

2077
01:40:25,880 --> 01:40:28,600
Speaker 1: The model. It's not an absolute and teams, you know,

2078
01:40:28,840 --> 01:40:30,920
Speaker 1: go against it all the time, debat all the time,

2079
01:40:31,400 --> 01:40:34,160
Speaker 1: but it just gives you a guidelines for what kind

2080
01:40:34,200 --> 01:40:36,439
Speaker 1: of relative draft values are. Here's the thing that never

2081
01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:39,280
Speaker 1: gets put into this either, which I think I don't

2082
01:40:39,280 --> 01:40:41,439
Speaker 1: know why people don't do it more often, particularly given

2083
01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:43,560
Speaker 1: now in the age of free agency. You got this

2084
01:40:43,720 --> 01:40:48,120
Speaker 1: draft thing, you got Okay, so this pick and just

2085
01:40:48,360 --> 01:40:51,840
Speaker 1: as an example, you got a round three pick number

2086
01:40:51,960 --> 01:40:55,120
Speaker 1: seventy five or pick number seventy four goes to Buffalo.

2087
01:40:55,200 --> 01:40:58,679
Speaker 1: It's worth valued at two hundred and twenty points. Okay,

2088
01:40:58,880 --> 01:41:00,840
Speaker 1: So you got this pick at Buffalo that's worth two

2089
01:41:00,920 --> 01:41:03,120
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty points. So you want to throw in

2090
01:41:03,200 --> 01:41:05,640
Speaker 1: a couple of picks and get it, or throw that

2091
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:07,720
Speaker 1: pick in with some other What happens if you say, listen,

2092
01:41:07,720 --> 01:41:09,400
Speaker 1: I want to keep that two hundred and twenty point

2093
01:41:09,680 --> 01:41:14,360
Speaker 1: worth pick, and I'll throw in And I'm just saying it,

2094
01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:17,240
Speaker 1: like Zay Jones a young wide receiver, or you know

2095
01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:20,439
Speaker 1: what I mean, how do the other that value that

2096
01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:23,760
Speaker 1: intangible value that Zay Jones has to your team or

2097
01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:27,880
Speaker 1: to what his perceived value is by another team throws

2098
01:41:27,960 --> 01:41:31,800
Speaker 1: that valuation chart out the window? Sure, well, I don't

2099
01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:34,840
Speaker 1: know why that doesn't happen more often. Here's the thing.

2100
01:41:35,320 --> 01:41:38,960
Speaker 1: I think it'd be easier to trade players than numbers,

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01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:40,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, trade draft picks easier in

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01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:43,719
Speaker 1: that you would know exactly what you're getting in return,

2103
01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:47,360
Speaker 1: at least what his record was, his his what you know,

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01:41:47,479 --> 01:41:49,720
Speaker 1: the type of player he is, you who have seen him,

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01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:52,040
Speaker 1: whoever it is, for a year or more. And the

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01:41:52,120 --> 01:41:53,960
Speaker 1: draft pick you're looking at numbers, you know, well, what's

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01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:57,560
Speaker 1: that fourth round pick? What's our third round pickworth? You know, Theoretically,

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01:41:57,680 --> 01:41:59,760
Speaker 1: I think it'd be easier to trade actual bodies. I

2109
01:41:59,800 --> 01:42:01,880
Speaker 1: think it be I think I feel more comfortable trading

2110
01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:03,760
Speaker 1: bodies than they would. Maybe that's why it doesn't happen,

2111
01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:05,920
Speaker 1: because the team that's letting the guy go, no, it's like,

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01:42:06,120 --> 01:42:07,599
Speaker 1: I don't know, he's pretty you know what I mean.

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01:42:08,400 --> 01:42:10,800
Speaker 1: And the team that you're there's no secrets because you've

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01:42:10,840 --> 01:42:17,439
Speaker 1: seen the commodity in the exact situations that he's going

2115
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:19,720
Speaker 1: to be performing for your team. So you're saying, is

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01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:22,160
Speaker 1: that good enough or not? Does that tilt the scales

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01:42:22,280 --> 01:42:24,840
Speaker 1: or not? Can we use that guy or not? And

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01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:28,439
Speaker 1: that and I think there's the fact that there's less

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01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:33,640
Speaker 1: unknowns makes it less common. Yeah, you know. So the

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Speaker 1: central question today and it's our Twitter poll, and it's

2121
01:42:37,080 --> 01:42:40,240
Speaker 1: got pretty close. Actually, should the Bills their draft strategy

2122
01:42:40,479 --> 01:42:43,000
Speaker 1: coming up? What a week from Thursday, nine days away?

2123
01:42:43,160 --> 01:42:45,439
Speaker 1: What should their strategy be? On the Twitter poll? Should

2124
01:42:45,439 --> 01:42:48,360
Speaker 1: the Bills move up in the draft? Should they move

2125
01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:51,200
Speaker 1: down in the draft, or should they stay put at

2126
01:42:51,320 --> 01:42:53,760
Speaker 1: number nine? Overall? Last time we checked, we'd like to

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01:42:53,840 --> 01:42:56,599
Speaker 1: check again, it was fairly close. Forty nine percent said

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01:42:56,640 --> 01:42:59,439
Speaker 1: they should move down, but forty one percent say stand

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01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:02,360
Speaker 1: pat at number nine. Only ten percent say move up.

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01:43:02,400 --> 01:43:04,400
Speaker 1: Try to move up in the draft. I'm going to

2131
01:43:04,439 --> 01:43:06,400
Speaker 1: stand pat. I like where they're at. I like being

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01:43:06,479 --> 01:43:10,120
Speaker 1: in the top ten. I think you are almost certain

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01:43:10,400 --> 01:43:13,200
Speaker 1: to get a really good player somewhere in the top ten.

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01:43:13,560 --> 01:43:15,240
Speaker 1: And if you stand Pad at number nine, you'll get that,

2135
01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:17,439
Speaker 1: and you have nine other picks. But I understand why

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01:43:17,479 --> 01:43:19,240
Speaker 1: people might want to move down and even get more.

2137
01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:21,559
Speaker 1: You know, as my grandmother used to say, those Steve

2138
01:43:21,560 --> 01:43:26,840
Speaker 1: don't eat with both hands? What does that mean? It's

2139
01:43:26,920 --> 01:43:29,679
Speaker 1: it's a metaphor. Don't you know, eat with both hands?

2140
01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:33,080
Speaker 1: You know, eat like a normal person. Don't not that

2141
01:43:33,120 --> 01:43:36,080
Speaker 1: I would do that? Maybe I did, but you know

2142
01:43:36,120 --> 01:43:38,160
Speaker 1: what I mean? How do you eat a hamburger if

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01:43:38,160 --> 01:43:40,360
Speaker 1: you can't pick it up with both hands? Well, come on,

2144
01:43:40,680 --> 01:43:43,679
Speaker 1: you know I don't have a burger and one second

2145
01:43:43,680 --> 01:43:45,200
Speaker 1: burger in the other hand. I get you, I get

2146
01:43:45,200 --> 01:43:47,280
Speaker 1: you relaxed. You got burger in one hand and the

2147
01:43:47,320 --> 01:43:50,240
Speaker 1: fries and the other. You know, good point? All right,

2148
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:52,400
Speaker 1: you don't need to you don't need to be greedy, right,

2149
01:43:52,479 --> 01:43:54,240
Speaker 1: you got ten picks. Don't tell you. I would say

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01:43:54,240 --> 01:43:57,080
Speaker 1: that I'm disparaging. I would stay at number nine, and

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01:43:57,360 --> 01:44:00,880
Speaker 1: uh using my other picks too. I cannot wait it's

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01:44:01,320 --> 01:44:04,200
Speaker 1: I mean, let's face it, we're in Buffalo. We have

2153
01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:07,000
Speaker 1: a we have a different view of our sports teams

2154
01:44:07,040 --> 01:44:10,679
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo. Once you draft a guy high like Jack,

2155
01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:14,240
Speaker 1: it's not Jack Eichel first round draft, it's Jack. He's

2156
01:44:14,320 --> 01:44:15,960
Speaker 1: part of the family. He's part you. You sit him

2157
01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:18,000
Speaker 1: down at the table of Thanksgiving with you, right, I mean,

2158
01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:20,120
Speaker 1: he's like I never have right, I haven't either. But

2159
01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:23,080
Speaker 1: that's the kind of attitude we have about our guys, right,

2160
01:44:23,680 --> 01:44:26,960
Speaker 1: I've I've experienced it. People come up to me and

2161
01:44:27,040 --> 01:44:31,080
Speaker 1: they they they act like I'm I've been sitting around

2162
01:44:31,080 --> 01:44:35,160
Speaker 1: there at dinner table for twenty years. They know me. Um,

2163
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:38,200
Speaker 1: it's the same with these guys. And we're gonna get

2164
01:44:38,640 --> 01:44:42,360
Speaker 1: It's like it's like, you know, going to the delivery room.

2165
01:44:42,439 --> 01:44:44,800
Speaker 1: We're gonna get new members of the family. A week

2166
01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:48,240
Speaker 1: from what tomorrow, a week from Wednesday, week from Thursday,

2167
01:44:48,280 --> 01:44:50,759
Speaker 1: we're gonna get a new member of the important members.

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01:44:51,320 --> 01:44:54,519
Speaker 1: These guys are gonna be like like Tremaine Edmunds and

2169
01:44:54,640 --> 01:44:59,080
Speaker 1: Josh Allen important, right, yeah, like Bruce Smith important hopefully

2170
01:44:59,640 --> 01:45:03,160
Speaker 1: sure Andre read important, these guys, and we're gonna get

2171
01:45:03,280 --> 01:45:05,880
Speaker 1: a chance to you know, Hey, come on it, let's

2172
01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:08,760
Speaker 1: see what you got right. It's so awesome, it is good,

2173
01:45:09,360 --> 01:45:11,479
Speaker 1: and we should throw a baby shower for these guys.

2174
01:45:11,600 --> 01:45:14,920
Speaker 1: I say, I like my metaphor much better than yours.

2175
01:45:15,479 --> 01:45:19,960
Speaker 1: Both you're talking about birth and baby showers. I don't

2176
01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:21,720
Speaker 1: know where you're going. It's true, though, I mean, it's

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01:45:21,800 --> 01:45:26,719
Speaker 1: really exciting in this town with this, with this club,

2178
01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:28,880
Speaker 1: and and and the Sabers as well. Man, you we're

2179
01:45:29,080 --> 01:45:30,960
Speaker 1: all about. I want to hear these guys because you know,

2180
01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:33,800
Speaker 1: we're living with him for a while. Yeah, and we

2181
01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:36,920
Speaker 1: talk about him, and yeah, we're talking about him, and

2182
01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:40,479
Speaker 1: you know we've got high hopes for him. It's it's

2183
01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:43,599
Speaker 1: it's an important day. Should the Bills move up, move down,

2184
01:45:43,720 --> 01:45:45,559
Speaker 1: or stay at right where they are at number nine?

2185
01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:46,880
Speaker 1: What do you think? Give us a call eight oh

2186
01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:50,200
Speaker 1: three five fifty toll free one eight eight five fifty

2187
01:45:50,280 --> 01:45:52,280
Speaker 1: two five fifty or on Twitter we'll read from the

2188
01:45:52,280 --> 01:45:55,760
Speaker 1: tweet sheet, including Jeffrey Ollman, who tweets in post free

2189
01:45:55,760 --> 01:45:58,679
Speaker 1: agency moves. The Bills do not need all ten picks

2190
01:45:58,800 --> 01:46:01,719
Speaker 1: moving down in the first skin. Help convert twenty nineteen

2191
01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:04,640
Speaker 1: picks to twenty twenty use later picks. And deals to

2192
01:46:04,720 --> 01:46:07,400
Speaker 1: get more in the top one hundred drafted talented but

2193
01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:10,240
Speaker 1: injured player running back Bryce Love to stash for a

2194
01:46:10,320 --> 01:46:13,800
Speaker 1: rehab season. All valid strategies, You're right, Jeffrey. All of

2195
01:46:13,840 --> 01:46:16,519
Speaker 1: that you could argue is a valid strategy. I can't

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01:46:16,680 --> 01:46:20,680
Speaker 1: disagree with much of that you see. Yeah, yes, I

2197
01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:23,519
Speaker 1: agree that they have made really good additions on this

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01:46:23,640 --> 01:46:27,080
Speaker 1: free agent market. However, not all of those guys that

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01:46:27,120 --> 01:46:29,240
Speaker 1: they signed in the free agent market are these top stellar,

2200
01:46:29,320 --> 01:46:31,320
Speaker 1: top flight guys. And there's going to be some of

2201
01:46:31,360 --> 01:46:34,400
Speaker 1: those guys that aren't good enough to make this team hopefully,

2202
01:46:35,240 --> 01:46:37,320
Speaker 1: because you want that competition to be that good. You

2203
01:46:37,360 --> 01:46:38,800
Speaker 1: want the rest of them to be that good, and

2204
01:46:38,840 --> 01:46:41,000
Speaker 1: there's too many of them. They signed some, so you

2205
01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:45,360
Speaker 1: gotta bolster your roster. Even though you feel like you've

2206
01:46:45,439 --> 01:46:48,320
Speaker 1: done some good things, you can't stop. You gotta get it.

2207
01:46:48,400 --> 01:46:50,439
Speaker 1: And I think the more picks you get, the better off,

2208
01:46:50,560 --> 01:46:53,800
Speaker 1: the better your chances are of changing your fortunes. From

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01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:56,160
Speaker 1: a team that went nine and seven back to the playoffs,

2210
01:46:56,360 --> 01:46:58,120
Speaker 1: took a step back to a six and ten team

2211
01:46:58,439 --> 01:47:01,840
Speaker 1: and this team that you know, Las Vegas. Nobody's betting

2212
01:47:01,880 --> 01:47:05,120
Speaker 1: on the Bills to win more than six games. That's

2213
01:47:05,160 --> 01:47:07,800
Speaker 1: the number over under six games. I mean, you've got

2214
01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:09,640
Speaker 1: to take a step forward. You gotta keep after it.

2215
01:47:10,120 --> 01:47:13,479
Speaker 1: And if this draft, and I'm listen, I'm not saying

2216
01:47:13,640 --> 01:47:15,760
Speaker 1: they're not going to be successful if they trade up

2217
01:47:15,760 --> 01:47:17,519
Speaker 1: and give away some of their mid round picks. I'm

2218
01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:19,960
Speaker 1: not saying they're going to be successful automatically. If they

2219
01:47:20,040 --> 01:47:22,040
Speaker 1: trade back. I'm not saying it's going to be a

2220
01:47:22,200 --> 01:47:25,000
Speaker 1: lost cause. If they stand pat I'm saying I want

2221
01:47:25,040 --> 01:47:27,240
Speaker 1: them to be nimble enough that if there's a guy

2222
01:47:27,320 --> 01:47:30,560
Speaker 1: they know, go get him. If there's not, take the

2223
01:47:30,640 --> 01:47:33,000
Speaker 1: best guy available and get as many of those guys

2224
01:47:33,040 --> 01:47:37,320
Speaker 1: as you can. So there's so many unknowns at this

2225
01:47:37,439 --> 01:47:39,240
Speaker 1: point of the season with his draft class, and with

2226
01:47:39,360 --> 01:47:41,000
Speaker 1: all of these guys you have to you know in

2227
01:47:41,160 --> 01:47:44,719
Speaker 1: generally generally speaking, no question, it's a deep draft class

2228
01:47:44,760 --> 01:47:46,400
Speaker 1: with some pretty quality players that you're going to be

2229
01:47:46,400 --> 01:47:48,720
Speaker 1: available through the first three, four or five rounds. So

2230
01:47:49,600 --> 01:47:50,920
Speaker 1: I think you want to give as many of those

2231
01:47:50,960 --> 01:47:54,559
Speaker 1: guys as you can. Jeffrey Orman makes a good point

2232
01:47:54,600 --> 01:47:56,760
Speaker 1: about use later picks and deals to get more in

2233
01:47:56,760 --> 01:47:59,439
Speaker 1: the top one hundred. The Bills have only three picks

2234
01:47:59,560 --> 01:48:01,479
Speaker 1: in the time one hundred top three rounds, in fact,

2235
01:48:01,560 --> 01:48:03,800
Speaker 1: three in the top seventy four picks, and they don't

2236
01:48:03,800 --> 01:48:06,000
Speaker 1: get another pick for like forty eight more selections. So

2237
01:48:06,080 --> 01:48:07,920
Speaker 1: another pick in the top one hundred would be good.

2238
01:48:08,240 --> 01:48:10,920
Speaker 1: It would be good, but it'll take some doing to

2239
01:48:11,000 --> 01:48:12,800
Speaker 1: get there. So if you want to move up into

2240
01:48:12,840 --> 01:48:15,400
Speaker 1: the top one hundred, again we've relied a lot on

2241
01:48:15,479 --> 01:48:18,320
Speaker 1: the Jimmy Johnson trade valuation model, But if you want

2242
01:48:18,360 --> 01:48:22,880
Speaker 1: to get in the top one hundred picks, you're gonna

2243
01:48:22,920 --> 01:48:25,400
Speaker 1: have to give up some assets here. If you give

2244
01:48:25,479 --> 01:48:30,479
Speaker 1: up your fourth rounder, which is worth a reading this right, Yeah,

2245
01:48:30,520 --> 01:48:33,600
Speaker 1: fourth rounder is worth seventy points and you need to

2246
01:48:33,680 --> 01:48:35,640
Speaker 1: give up well, both your fourth rounders. You'd have to

2247
01:48:35,680 --> 01:48:37,519
Speaker 1: give up to get in the top one hundred, and

2248
01:48:37,600 --> 01:48:39,400
Speaker 1: that is the bottom of the third round. So it's

2249
01:48:39,439 --> 01:48:41,639
Speaker 1: a steep price. Can be done, but a steep price.

2250
01:48:41,960 --> 01:48:44,519
Speaker 1: But I like that, you know, because the Bills as

2251
01:48:44,640 --> 01:48:47,960
Speaker 1: many picks as they have ten they're they're backloaded right

2252
01:48:47,960 --> 01:48:50,240
Speaker 1: there in the back end of the draft. Here's a

2253
01:48:50,320 --> 01:48:53,280
Speaker 1: tweet from Let's Go Bills. It is especially important this

2254
01:48:53,400 --> 01:48:55,120
Speaker 1: year to hint on the early in mid rounds. The

2255
01:48:55,200 --> 01:48:57,840
Speaker 1: expectations are that we will not have top ten picks

2256
01:48:57,880 --> 01:48:59,760
Speaker 1: for many years to come. We need to get it right.

2257
01:48:59,800 --> 01:49:01,760
Speaker 1: There no question they need to get it right. I mean,

2258
01:49:01,800 --> 01:49:03,479
Speaker 1: you need to do it right every year. But they've

2259
01:49:03,560 --> 01:49:07,120
Speaker 1: got assets here. Again, most of them backloaded into the

2260
01:49:07,200 --> 01:49:09,240
Speaker 1: fourth through seventh round, but there are assets here. I

2261
01:49:09,280 --> 01:49:11,200
Speaker 1: love the passion too, because everybody's got their opinion, and

2262
01:49:11,280 --> 01:49:13,000
Speaker 1: we got to tweet from father time. He says, what

2263
01:49:13,160 --> 01:49:15,600
Speaker 1: kind of fools would not want to trade up and

2264
01:49:15,720 --> 01:49:18,000
Speaker 1: get a chance at your first choice before someone else

2265
01:49:18,040 --> 01:49:21,320
Speaker 1: takes them? Wow, I don't believe this is how people think. Well, father, listen,

2266
01:49:21,560 --> 01:49:24,120
Speaker 1: that's the way this works, because that guy that you

2267
01:49:24,200 --> 01:49:27,680
Speaker 1: really want may turn out to be garbage, and the

2268
01:49:27,840 --> 01:49:29,840
Speaker 1: other guy might be pretty, and the other guy there's

2269
01:49:29,880 --> 01:49:34,519
Speaker 1: no reason. It's not think binary decisions bad. They're all

2270
01:49:34,600 --> 01:49:36,760
Speaker 1: pretty good. They're all really good. It's not like the

2271
01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:38,840
Speaker 1: guy you really want is going to be light years

2272
01:49:38,840 --> 01:49:40,960
Speaker 1: ahead of the guy that you could take two picks later.

2273
01:49:41,600 --> 01:49:43,600
Speaker 1: It's not like that. It's not like that guy's the

2274
01:49:43,680 --> 01:49:46,120
Speaker 1: only guy that's going to be good, and by trading him,

2275
01:49:46,120 --> 01:49:49,240
Speaker 1: you give yourself a chance you take away and this

2276
01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:52,720
Speaker 1: two chances later, on to get a guy even better

2277
01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:55,920
Speaker 1: than all of them, you know, theoretically, I mean it's

2278
01:49:55,920 --> 01:49:58,160
Speaker 1: probably not gonna happen. We all know that. But still

2279
01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:05,439
Speaker 1: so trading up costs a lot, and the cost you

2280
01:50:05,560 --> 01:50:11,040
Speaker 1: give is also certainly it's later round picks after you know,

2281
01:50:11,120 --> 01:50:13,360
Speaker 1: when nobody everybody else knows the same guys and all that,

2282
01:50:13,640 --> 01:50:17,840
Speaker 1: but it's also the potential of getting and let's face it.

2283
01:50:17,920 --> 01:50:20,080
Speaker 1: You can say what you want, but this is the truth.

2284
01:50:20,240 --> 01:50:21,840
Speaker 1: You can get it, Kyle Williams. You can get a

2285
01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:24,559
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, you can get one of those. You can

2286
01:50:24,600 --> 01:50:28,960
Speaker 1: get a guy who could be an All Pro player

2287
01:50:29,680 --> 01:50:31,360
Speaker 1: after everybody's picked, and you can get him as a

2288
01:50:31,439 --> 01:50:35,120
Speaker 1: rookie free agent. I mean, that's where that's why this

2289
01:50:35,360 --> 01:50:38,080
Speaker 1: draft is a crapshoot. Those are the outliers again we

2290
01:50:39,560 --> 01:50:41,679
Speaker 1: and that goes what I said earlier in the show,

2291
01:50:42,080 --> 01:50:43,960
Speaker 1: and I was talking to Jeff in the other room,

2292
01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:47,280
Speaker 1: our producer about it. Luck is undervalued. Luck is a

2293
01:50:47,360 --> 01:50:52,000
Speaker 1: factor injuries, especially coaching. Development is a factor too into

2294
01:50:52,160 --> 01:50:54,640
Speaker 1: wherever a guy's picked, into his development. Let's second few

2295
01:50:54,720 --> 01:50:56,680
Speaker 1: phone calls here. Do the bills should they move up

2296
01:50:56,680 --> 01:50:58,960
Speaker 1: and move down to stay at number nine, Emmanuel from

2297
01:50:59,000 --> 01:51:02,080
Speaker 1: a Hawaii on the line. Hello Emmanuel, welcome to the show. Hey,

2298
01:51:02,840 --> 01:51:05,120
Speaker 1: good morning, John and Steve. All Right, So I was

2299
01:51:05,200 --> 01:51:07,840
Speaker 1: thinking that I was thinking that the Bills probably need

2300
01:51:07,960 --> 01:51:10,920
Speaker 1: to move up. I was thinking the Bills having made

2301
01:51:11,080 --> 01:51:14,519
Speaker 1: acquisition that would improve the defense this year. I was

2302
01:51:14,600 --> 01:51:17,919
Speaker 1: thinking about Devin White from LSU as the best linebacker

2303
01:51:17,960 --> 01:51:20,080
Speaker 1: in the draft, that they can get him, you know,

2304
01:51:20,160 --> 01:51:23,400
Speaker 1: with Lorenzo getting older, and they can move Tremaine to

2305
01:51:23,680 --> 01:51:27,960
Speaker 1: outside linebacker. Yeah, interesting, Emanuel. Others have suggested that we

2306
01:51:28,080 --> 01:51:31,679
Speaker 1: actually ran that by Great Cosell on our show last Friday,

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Speaker 1: and he had a good response. I thought, which kind

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01:51:33,360 --> 01:51:36,680
Speaker 1: of I was open minded about that scenario. But I'm

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01:51:36,760 --> 01:51:39,080
Speaker 1: less open minded now because, as co Sell said, you've

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Speaker 1: invested one full year in getting Tremine Edmonds ready to

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01:51:42,800 --> 01:51:45,360
Speaker 1: play mental linebacker spot. Now you just want to walk

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01:51:45,400 --> 01:51:47,240
Speaker 1: away from that. He was pretty good, and he got

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01:51:47,320 --> 01:51:49,439
Speaker 1: better last year too. Are you ready to walk away

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01:51:49,479 --> 01:51:52,680
Speaker 1: from that year of investment in Tremine Edmonds ignoring some

2315
01:51:52,760 --> 01:51:55,720
Speaker 1: other needs that you might have. Is that what you're saying? What?

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01:51:55,880 --> 01:51:58,479
Speaker 1: I think that he made some strides, but I don't

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01:51:58,520 --> 01:52:02,800
Speaker 1: think it's his natural position. He made he made he

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01:52:03,000 --> 01:52:05,599
Speaker 1: was so hesitant at the inside linebacker, he may need

2319
01:52:05,680 --> 01:52:08,479
Speaker 1: to do less thinking and that can speed up his

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01:52:08,600 --> 01:52:10,760
Speaker 1: game on the field. I think that White, as all

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01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:14,320
Speaker 1: the prognosticators said, is a difference maker and he will

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01:52:14,479 --> 01:52:16,920
Speaker 1: change the level of the defense in terms of making

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01:52:16,960 --> 01:52:20,439
Speaker 1: the players around him better. Alano being on the virtue

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01:52:20,479 --> 01:52:22,920
Speaker 1: being a pro bowled player that can potentially have one

2325
01:52:22,960 --> 01:52:26,080
Speaker 1: of the best linebacking corps in the league. And you know,

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01:52:26,840 --> 01:52:29,040
Speaker 1: I don't really see an acquisition that made a difference

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01:52:29,080 --> 01:52:31,599
Speaker 1: on defense. And our historical evidence shows us that if

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01:52:31,640 --> 01:52:35,640
Speaker 1: you don't make changes to a unit, than a decrease

2329
01:52:36,000 --> 01:52:38,920
Speaker 1: or they'll get worse rather than better. So I think

2330
01:52:38,920 --> 01:52:41,000
Speaker 1: they need to actually pay more attention to the defense.

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01:52:41,040 --> 01:52:44,840
Speaker 1: And it's interesting way, it's all good points, it's all valid,

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01:52:45,040 --> 01:52:48,360
Speaker 1: and it's it's well thought. We've had other callers as

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01:52:48,400 --> 01:52:52,840
Speaker 1: well to bring up Tremaine Edmonds because he doesn't look

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01:52:52,880 --> 01:52:56,320
Speaker 1: like a natural inside linebacker. Those guys are usually the beefy, stocky,

2335
01:52:57,200 --> 01:52:59,479
Speaker 1: compact guys that run and hit and do all of that.

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01:53:00,040 --> 01:53:03,880
Speaker 1: Tremaine is a big, strong, long athlete, and he's an

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01:53:03,880 --> 01:53:06,680
Speaker 1: a lead athlete even athletically in the NFL. That's hard

2338
01:53:06,720 --> 01:53:09,519
Speaker 1: to do. His length makes him a difference maker in there,

2339
01:53:09,600 --> 01:53:11,840
Speaker 1: no question, and it's and it doesn't seem like it

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01:53:11,880 --> 01:53:15,200
Speaker 1: would be his natural position, but that's where uh he

2341
01:53:15,360 --> 01:53:17,760
Speaker 1: was projected even as a as a player last year.

2342
01:53:18,160 --> 01:53:21,320
Speaker 1: So maybe you can say that they've thought about moving

2343
01:53:21,439 --> 01:53:23,280
Speaker 1: him or making him in the outside. That we've heard

2344
01:53:23,360 --> 01:53:25,120
Speaker 1: calls like that before. A lot of people think that.

2345
01:53:25,800 --> 01:53:27,840
Speaker 1: I don't know that the Bills are in that mindset though.

2346
01:53:27,920 --> 01:53:30,200
Speaker 1: I think they love the progress he made last year,

2347
01:53:30,520 --> 01:53:34,080
Speaker 1: and I think they love the his top end as

2348
01:53:34,120 --> 01:53:37,200
Speaker 1: an inside linebacker. And I think don't forget I know

2349
01:53:37,360 --> 01:53:39,599
Speaker 1: that it's as a league that where you know, he's

2350
01:53:39,600 --> 01:53:41,760
Speaker 1: still got to stop the run, which may not be

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01:53:41,920 --> 01:53:44,120
Speaker 1: his forte when they when they do that, but I'll

2352
01:53:44,160 --> 01:53:47,960
Speaker 1: tell you what, the guy's length and his athleticism do

2353
01:53:48,120 --> 01:53:51,760
Speaker 1: some damage in the back end in passing. I think

2354
01:53:51,800 --> 01:53:54,080
Speaker 1: they like that about his game. So and that's and

2355
01:53:54,160 --> 01:53:56,680
Speaker 1: it's a throwing league, so I think they may like that.

2356
01:53:56,800 --> 01:53:59,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're thinking about moving him. We

2357
01:53:59,200 --> 01:54:02,479
Speaker 1: haven't heard one whisper about that. The place we've heard

2358
01:54:02,479 --> 01:54:04,680
Speaker 1: that out of the phone lines, right, I've never heard

2359
01:54:04,720 --> 01:54:07,040
Speaker 1: a whisper about that in this building, about maybe Tremaine

2360
01:54:07,120 --> 01:54:09,280
Speaker 1: Edmonds will be better outside. Maybe they will. I may

2361
01:54:09,400 --> 01:54:10,960
Speaker 1: do that right away. I don't know when they start

2362
01:54:11,040 --> 01:54:14,920
Speaker 1: lining up this next couple of weeks. But they're certainly

2363
01:54:15,120 --> 01:54:17,679
Speaker 1: not giving us any inkling of that at this point,

2364
01:54:17,800 --> 01:54:21,200
Speaker 1: or we haven't heard that from even from other sources.

2365
01:54:21,280 --> 01:54:24,040
Speaker 1: So and by the way, he is an every down linebacker,

2366
01:54:24,120 --> 01:54:26,200
Speaker 1: which is important, you know what I mean. True, he's

2367
01:54:26,200 --> 01:54:27,960
Speaker 1: not the kind of middle linebacker has to come off

2368
01:54:28,000 --> 01:54:29,920
Speaker 1: the field on third downs. He's an every down guy

2369
01:54:30,240 --> 01:54:33,040
Speaker 1: because he's so athletic. Yeah, I think there's value in that,

2370
01:54:33,120 --> 01:54:35,160
Speaker 1: I really do. All Right, we're gonna take a break.

2371
01:54:35,200 --> 01:54:37,920
Speaker 1: We're gonna we gotta hear from Brandon Bean, who spoke

2372
01:54:37,960 --> 01:54:39,760
Speaker 1: to the media yesterday. A lot of good thoughts about

2373
01:54:39,760 --> 01:54:41,360
Speaker 1: the draft from Brandon Bean, and we'll do some of

2374
01:54:41,400 --> 01:54:43,080
Speaker 1: that when we come back. You can keep the phone

2375
01:54:43,080 --> 01:54:44,960
Speaker 1: calls coming in. We'll talk with you as well. Come

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Speaker 1: on back, One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive and

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01:54:46,920 --> 01:55:01,000
Speaker 1: this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to the show.

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01:55:01,080 --> 01:55:04,280
Speaker 1: John Murphy's Steve Tasker, One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive.

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01:55:05,280 --> 01:55:07,280
Speaker 1: Just sorting through some of my notes from today's show.

2380
01:55:07,320 --> 01:55:10,920
Speaker 1: Here's here's our list of guests from today's show. It

2381
01:55:11,440 --> 01:55:15,280
Speaker 1: was a short list. It's you and me, that Dowey.

2382
01:55:16,040 --> 01:55:18,960
Speaker 1: We're just we're just a good show. Though. I had

2383
01:55:18,960 --> 01:55:21,480
Speaker 1: a lot of feedback from people calling in and about

2384
01:55:21,840 --> 01:55:23,440
Speaker 1: you know, what the Bills should do in this draft.

2385
01:55:23,480 --> 01:55:25,880
Speaker 1: It's it's gonna be fun, fun little eight or nine

2386
01:55:25,960 --> 01:55:28,560
Speaker 1: days we have least coming up to. Yeah, we talked

2387
01:55:28,560 --> 01:55:30,640
Speaker 1: about this trade up, trade down? What do you do? Right?

2388
01:55:31,000 --> 01:55:34,080
Speaker 1: And uh, Brandon met Actually he was the inspiration for

2389
01:55:34,200 --> 01:55:36,960
Speaker 1: this wonderful Twitter poll we've had today. Brandon meeting the

2390
01:55:36,960 --> 01:55:39,600
Speaker 1: Bills generalmanager yesterday because he was asked, you know, last

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01:55:39,640 --> 01:55:42,880
Speaker 1: year the Bills traded up twice right into round one. Uh,

2392
01:55:42,960 --> 01:55:44,640
Speaker 1: and he was asked to comment on what a general

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01:55:44,720 --> 01:55:46,480
Speaker 1: manager has to think about when you trade up or

2394
01:55:46,560 --> 01:55:48,920
Speaker 1: trade down in the draft. Here's what Bills GM Brandon

2395
01:55:49,000 --> 01:55:50,800
Speaker 1: being said about trading up or trading down. Here's what

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01:55:50,880 --> 01:55:54,120
Speaker 1: he said yesterday. Let's first talk about going down. If

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01:55:54,160 --> 01:55:57,040
Speaker 1: you're you know, if you're sitting in a position and

2398
01:55:57,760 --> 01:56:00,240
Speaker 1: you got one guy sitting on the board when you're up,

2399
01:56:00,320 --> 01:56:02,200
Speaker 1: you're getting close to the clock, and that you really

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01:56:02,320 --> 01:56:04,960
Speaker 1: like and you you value that and he fits wherever

2401
01:56:05,040 --> 01:56:07,520
Speaker 1: you're what round, first round, second round, whatever you're at.

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01:56:09,000 --> 01:56:12,480
Speaker 1: If you trade down, you're now you're basically saying you

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01:56:12,600 --> 01:56:14,640
Speaker 1: almost better trade down to another round because if you

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01:56:14,760 --> 01:56:18,040
Speaker 1: trade four or five back, the odds of one guy

2405
01:56:18,200 --> 01:56:21,600
Speaker 1: sticking out there is not very good. Now, if you

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01:56:22,440 --> 01:56:26,760
Speaker 1: have five to seven guys and somebody wants you to

2407
01:56:26,840 --> 01:56:32,280
Speaker 1: move back, you know, six to ten, although it's close,

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01:56:32,480 --> 01:56:34,640
Speaker 1: you still could. You know, there's a chance all those

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01:56:34,680 --> 01:56:36,680
Speaker 1: guys get gone. You've probably got a good shot to

2410
01:56:36,760 --> 01:56:38,960
Speaker 1: get one of those guys if you have similar grades.

2411
01:56:39,040 --> 01:56:43,480
Speaker 1: So it's really goes back to following your board. That's

2412
01:56:43,520 --> 01:56:46,760
Speaker 1: why it's so important draft day if you if you

2413
01:56:46,840 --> 01:56:49,720
Speaker 1: get your board right, should be a lot simpler. It's

2414
01:56:49,760 --> 01:56:51,640
Speaker 1: just like shawing out there on game day. If they've

2415
01:56:51,680 --> 01:56:53,960
Speaker 1: practiced everything and they've done it and it run and

2416
01:56:54,040 --> 01:56:57,240
Speaker 1: it works well in practice, it probably has a good

2417
01:56:57,320 --> 01:57:01,120
Speaker 1: chance to work on game day. So same thing trading

2418
01:57:01,280 --> 01:57:04,200
Speaker 1: up if you have you know, if you're down at

2419
01:57:04,240 --> 01:57:07,040
Speaker 1: this level in the draft. Let's just say you were

2420
01:57:07,120 --> 01:57:12,960
Speaker 1: at twenty five and you have a guy in the

2421
01:57:13,120 --> 01:57:16,320
Speaker 1: top tier of your draft board. You think he is

2422
01:57:16,800 --> 01:57:19,360
Speaker 1: in the you know, the first round I divide into

2423
01:57:19,440 --> 01:57:22,840
Speaker 1: three top, medal and bottom. If if you have a

2424
01:57:22,880 --> 01:57:26,000
Speaker 1: guy in the top tier and he's by himself up there,

2425
01:57:27,120 --> 01:57:29,760
Speaker 1: then and you think he is really an impact, you're

2426
01:57:29,800 --> 01:57:33,400
Speaker 1: talking about a rare player at his position, that might

2427
01:57:33,480 --> 01:57:37,960
Speaker 1: be the time to do it. But you also have

2428
01:57:38,040 --> 01:57:40,400
Speaker 1: to consider what is the cost? You know, is there

2429
01:57:40,400 --> 01:57:42,520
Speaker 1: a team willing to do it? And then what is

2430
01:57:42,560 --> 01:57:45,640
Speaker 1: the cost? Is the cost too much to where it's

2431
01:57:45,680 --> 01:57:48,160
Speaker 1: going to really jeopardize the rest of your draft or

2432
01:57:48,240 --> 01:57:52,920
Speaker 1: potentially future drafts. Brandon being talking about trading up, trading

2433
01:57:52,960 --> 01:57:54,600
Speaker 1: down to spend our topic all day, We should have

2434
01:57:54,680 --> 01:57:56,520
Speaker 1: used that SoundBite earlier in this I can do it.

2435
01:57:56,560 --> 01:57:59,200
Speaker 1: I can go another three hours now. Basically, Oh, here's

2436
01:57:59,240 --> 01:58:02,360
Speaker 1: a couple of things. Number one, it's pretty darn obvious

2437
01:58:02,600 --> 01:58:05,280
Speaker 1: how much he's thought this through. Right. Did you get

2438
01:58:05,320 --> 01:58:07,200
Speaker 1: that from that answer? I did. He has stopped it

2439
01:58:07,280 --> 01:58:09,720
Speaker 1: through what the cost is if you trade up, and

2440
01:58:09,880 --> 01:58:13,440
Speaker 1: what the risks are of trading down. And I love

2441
01:58:13,560 --> 01:58:16,080
Speaker 1: his point about moving down, which everybody says moved down,

2442
01:58:16,160 --> 01:58:19,600
Speaker 1: moved down, Well, it depends on how far are you

2443
01:58:19,640 --> 01:58:22,200
Speaker 1: gonna move down and how many players can you live with?

2444
01:58:23,240 --> 01:58:25,560
Speaker 1: With your early pick, your premium pick. Right, That's what

2445
01:58:25,640 --> 01:58:27,480
Speaker 1: he said, If there's only one guy that you really want,

2446
01:58:27,960 --> 01:58:31,040
Speaker 1: don't move down three spots because he's not likely to

2447
01:58:31,160 --> 01:58:33,720
Speaker 1: be there, which goes to your point Steve Tasker, about

2448
01:58:34,480 --> 01:58:38,000
Speaker 1: nobody really has this thing wired, right. Teams draft well,

2449
01:58:38,200 --> 01:58:40,320
Speaker 1: think it true and scout players, but it's not like

2450
01:58:40,360 --> 01:58:42,400
Speaker 1: you can say, well, we know this guy is really good,

2451
01:58:42,440 --> 01:58:44,440
Speaker 1: but these next three teams don't know that. You know

2452
01:58:44,520 --> 01:58:47,200
Speaker 1: what the reality is, they probably like him too. And

2453
01:58:47,320 --> 01:58:50,280
Speaker 1: I think acknowledging that is pretty smart. And Brandon Bean

2454
01:58:50,320 --> 01:58:53,200
Speaker 1: said that when he talked about trading down. Yeah, I

2455
01:58:53,320 --> 01:58:55,760
Speaker 1: think what it comes down to as well is getting

2456
01:58:56,440 --> 01:59:00,240
Speaker 1: value for every pick, maybe expanding that value for every pick.

2457
01:59:00,280 --> 01:59:02,480
Speaker 1: If you do want to trade down, make sure you

2458
01:59:02,560 --> 01:59:04,440
Speaker 1: got a chance to get somebody who's going to be

2459
01:59:04,480 --> 01:59:06,600
Speaker 1: a good player with the picks you get back in return.

2460
01:59:06,720 --> 01:59:09,480
Speaker 1: And for trading down, you've got to get other picks

2461
01:59:10,040 --> 01:59:13,160
Speaker 1: of a great enough value to maximize them. And I

2462
01:59:13,280 --> 01:59:16,440
Speaker 1: think the thing that gets lost in this that really

2463
01:59:16,560 --> 01:59:19,560
Speaker 1: gets you is that the fact that if you do trade,

2464
01:59:19,600 --> 01:59:22,120
Speaker 1: say the Bills do take what we had a caller today,

2465
01:59:22,200 --> 01:59:24,720
Speaker 1: some of you missed it, said, listen, the Bills at

2466
01:59:24,800 --> 01:59:28,480
Speaker 1: top ten could trade with Oakland. Oakland has three first

2467
01:59:28,560 --> 01:59:32,200
Speaker 1: round draft picks, number four, twenty four, and twenty seven.

2468
01:59:32,240 --> 01:59:36,040
Speaker 1: If the Bills traded their number nine pick, the valuation

2469
01:59:36,120 --> 01:59:38,800
Speaker 1: on the grab would be both those twenty four and

2470
01:59:38,880 --> 01:59:41,080
Speaker 1: twenty seven picks of their raiders, So the Bills could

2471
01:59:41,120 --> 01:59:43,680
Speaker 1: have two first round draft picks for the one they

2472
01:59:43,760 --> 01:59:46,560
Speaker 1: have just later in the round. Then, of course, you

2473
01:59:46,720 --> 01:59:49,680
Speaker 1: always talk about trading back up to get a guy,

2474
01:59:50,880 --> 01:59:54,840
Speaker 1: get just maximizing the picks. And once you do get

2475
01:59:54,920 --> 01:59:56,760
Speaker 1: int the spot where you've got a guy you want,

2476
01:59:56,920 --> 01:59:58,800
Speaker 1: if it's the right guy. I mean, that's what we're all.

2477
01:59:58,920 --> 02:00:02,640
Speaker 1: That's what the whole exercise is about. And there is

2478
02:00:02,640 --> 02:00:05,040
Speaker 1: a million ways to get there. We do have some

2479
02:00:05,240 --> 02:00:07,400
Speaker 1: unknowns every year. And the only thing you really knows,

2480
02:00:07,400 --> 02:00:09,080
Speaker 1: what I said earlier this show too, is the names

2481
02:00:09,080 --> 02:00:11,720
Speaker 1: of these guys. That's yeah, you got you know their names.

2482
02:00:12,040 --> 02:00:13,600
Speaker 1: You don't know how good they're gonna be. Some I'm

2483
02:00:13,600 --> 02:00:15,960
Speaker 1: gonna have a better up, you know, you think, and

2484
02:00:16,080 --> 02:00:17,760
Speaker 1: you've seen them on film and you know they've got

2485
02:00:17,840 --> 02:00:20,080
Speaker 1: these attributes that will fit into your system and you

2486
02:00:20,320 --> 02:00:21,840
Speaker 1: and you weed those guys out. So you got this

2487
02:00:21,880 --> 02:00:25,720
Speaker 1: little pile of guys, this little list of names that

2488
02:00:25,880 --> 02:00:27,680
Speaker 1: you think, all right, those are the kind of guys

2489
02:00:27,760 --> 02:00:29,839
Speaker 1: we want. This is the list of guy's whatever positions

2490
02:00:29,880 --> 02:00:33,000
Speaker 1: they are, where they are, so however far we have

2491
02:00:33,120 --> 02:00:35,320
Speaker 1: to move back and get more assets too to still

2492
02:00:35,400 --> 02:00:38,480
Speaker 1: get them. That's what you got to do. Part of

2493
02:00:38,520 --> 02:00:40,920
Speaker 1: this too, this calculation is knowing what other teams are

2494
02:00:40,960 --> 02:00:43,960
Speaker 1: going to do and expecting at least making an educated

2495
02:00:44,000 --> 02:00:46,200
Speaker 1: guess on what other teams in the draft will do.

2496
02:00:46,320 --> 02:00:48,680
Speaker 1: And that's why Brandon Bean, he talked about it last year,

2497
02:00:48,680 --> 02:00:51,320
Speaker 1: and he talked about it again yesterday. The Bills personnel

2498
02:00:51,360 --> 02:00:54,520
Speaker 1: department will early next week do mock drafts, their own

2499
02:00:54,600 --> 02:00:56,880
Speaker 1: mock drafts, and they'll we'll let him talk about it.

2500
02:00:56,960 --> 02:00:59,240
Speaker 1: He talks about why it's important, why it worked last

2501
02:00:59,320 --> 02:01:01,560
Speaker 1: year for him, and how important it is to sort

2502
02:01:01,600 --> 02:01:03,120
Speaker 1: of mock out what the rest of the teams in

2503
02:01:03,200 --> 02:01:05,720
Speaker 1: the draft will do. Here's what Brandon Bean said yesterday.

2504
02:01:08,000 --> 02:01:11,160
Speaker 1: I think you just try and let the board fall.

2505
02:01:11,240 --> 02:01:14,400
Speaker 1: We give every scout, you know, each team I make

2506
02:01:14,440 --> 02:01:18,120
Speaker 1: a scout. You're the GM of the Giants, the Raiders, whoever,

2507
02:01:18,800 --> 02:01:22,520
Speaker 1: and we give them our pro guys go through what

2508
02:01:22,760 --> 02:01:26,360
Speaker 1: each team's needs are, what we see their needs are.

2509
02:01:27,000 --> 02:01:29,840
Speaker 1: And obviously you're not necessarily supposed to draft for need,

2510
02:01:29,880 --> 02:01:33,680
Speaker 1: but teams still do it, and at that point you

2511
02:01:33,760 --> 02:01:37,520
Speaker 1: start looking and see where need and skill level fits.

2512
02:01:37,920 --> 02:01:40,320
Speaker 1: So it's nice when you still feel a need and

2513
02:01:40,400 --> 02:01:43,400
Speaker 1: so they go down and sometimes guys will pick it

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02:01:43,720 --> 02:01:46,400
Speaker 1: the way a lot of the mocks have it. Sometimes

2515
02:01:46,480 --> 02:01:49,320
Speaker 1: guys will do it how they have it in their

2516
02:01:49,480 --> 02:01:53,120
Speaker 1: in their mind if they're picking a you know, wide

2517
02:01:53,120 --> 02:01:57,400
Speaker 1: receiver or whatever for X team, and so it naturally,

2518
02:01:57,760 --> 02:02:01,640
Speaker 1: if you do it enough times, it naturally will present

2519
02:02:01,840 --> 02:02:05,520
Speaker 1: different scenarios. And sometimes there's the maybe get scenario that

2520
02:02:05,560 --> 02:02:09,160
Speaker 1: you didn't think about at nine. It's probably gonna be

2521
02:02:09,200 --> 02:02:13,040
Speaker 1: less scenarios than what we were dealing with last year

2522
02:02:13,400 --> 02:02:17,640
Speaker 1: at or we at twelve and twenty two when we started, so,

2523
02:02:18,720 --> 02:02:22,400
Speaker 1: but there'll still be, you know, a lot of variations,

2524
02:02:22,440 --> 02:02:27,160
Speaker 1: and the goal is to hopefully you practice a scenario

2525
02:02:27,320 --> 02:02:30,680
Speaker 1: that actually presents itself, which makes it real easy. We'll

2526
02:02:30,720 --> 02:02:34,000
Speaker 1: have some discussion on and I'll make the whoever the

2527
02:02:34,200 --> 02:02:38,400
Speaker 1: GM of that team, you know, explain why their pick was.

2528
02:02:38,480 --> 02:02:40,840
Speaker 1: If it's something that's way out of the ordinary and

2529
02:02:40,880 --> 02:02:43,680
Speaker 1: then I'll also put somebody in charge of the Bills,

2530
02:02:43,920 --> 02:02:46,800
Speaker 1: not me, and when they get to that pick, they'll

2531
02:02:46,840 --> 02:02:50,240
Speaker 1: have to explain, you know, what they're thinking, well, especially

2532
02:02:50,240 --> 02:02:53,440
Speaker 1: if it's something that wasn't obvious on the board, putting

2533
02:02:53,480 --> 02:02:56,120
Speaker 1: interesting stuff. The Bills personnel department with their own bacraft,

2534
02:02:56,160 --> 02:02:57,920
Speaker 1: you know what, I wasn't there. We were in here.

2535
02:02:58,000 --> 02:02:59,960
Speaker 1: It's like trying to keep track of a monopoly game.

2536
02:03:00,040 --> 02:03:01,680
Speaker 1: But I wonder what they what do they come out

2537
02:03:01,720 --> 02:03:03,320
Speaker 1: of that with? Like you think at the end they

2538
02:03:03,360 --> 02:03:05,840
Speaker 1: have one mocked draft that they kind of work with.

2539
02:03:06,000 --> 02:03:09,640
Speaker 1: That's they're operating mock draft. No, I think they have

2540
02:03:09,680 --> 02:03:11,680
Speaker 1: all these options. Yeah, I think they go through this

2541
02:03:11,800 --> 02:03:14,280
Speaker 1: thing about twenty five times. But at the end, as

2542
02:03:14,320 --> 02:03:18,480
Speaker 1: they approach next Thursday, do they have one major census?

2543
02:03:18,720 --> 02:03:20,320
Speaker 1: This is how we think it's gonna go. I want

2544
02:03:20,320 --> 02:03:21,560
Speaker 1: to I don't know what they answer. I don't know.

2545
02:03:21,560 --> 02:03:24,840
Speaker 1: I don't either, because I know this as well, much

2546
02:03:24,920 --> 02:03:27,760
Speaker 1: more so that I think in that I ever realized before,

2547
02:03:27,880 --> 02:03:31,280
Speaker 1: and perhaps it's changed to this. I perceive that a

2548
02:03:31,320 --> 02:03:33,680
Speaker 1: lot of these gems, there's a lot of open conversations

2549
02:03:33,720 --> 02:03:37,200
Speaker 1: at the top of these draft rooms between teams all

2550
02:03:37,320 --> 02:03:40,120
Speaker 1: in words like, hey, if we like this guy that

2551
02:03:40,200 --> 02:03:42,360
Speaker 1: we're looking for, and if he falls, we want to

2552
02:03:42,400 --> 02:03:44,040
Speaker 1: talk to you before you make your pick. Will you

2553
02:03:44,120 --> 02:03:47,120
Speaker 1: please give us when this happens. We're gonna call you

2554
02:03:47,200 --> 02:03:49,480
Speaker 1: if the guy falls, and please take our call. You

2555
02:03:49,560 --> 02:03:52,400
Speaker 1: don't be ready, And guys say, I will listen, but

2556
02:03:52,480 --> 02:03:54,240
Speaker 1: if our guy falls, we're probably not going to make

2557
02:03:54,280 --> 02:03:56,600
Speaker 1: any moves anyway. But there, you know, they'll have all

2558
02:03:56,600 --> 02:04:00,840
Speaker 1: these kind of conversations and they'll also say, listen, we've

2559
02:04:00,880 --> 02:04:03,040
Speaker 1: been contact by some other teams as well that are

2560
02:04:03,160 --> 02:04:05,480
Speaker 1: ahead of you, that also want to make a call

2561
02:04:05,560 --> 02:04:07,080
Speaker 1: to us, So they've got to take some call. When

2562
02:04:07,080 --> 02:04:08,960
Speaker 1: you're on the clock in the top ten, you're taking

2563
02:04:09,040 --> 02:04:13,360
Speaker 1: some calls, right, You're taking some phone calls from people

2564
02:04:13,400 --> 02:04:14,960
Speaker 1: who want to get your spot. So you've got to

2565
02:04:15,000 --> 02:04:17,080
Speaker 1: sort through all of that and what it means and

2566
02:04:17,160 --> 02:04:19,280
Speaker 1: how it's going to affect all these plans that you've

2567
02:04:19,360 --> 02:04:24,040
Speaker 1: made subsequent because now it's like, oh, now, what you

2568
02:04:24,120 --> 02:04:26,920
Speaker 1: know you got to all the work you've done for

2569
02:04:27,080 --> 02:04:30,440
Speaker 1: months is gonna be good. But you've got to rehearse

2570
02:04:30,800 --> 02:04:33,640
Speaker 1: at least some kind of semblance of what may happen

2571
02:04:33,840 --> 02:04:36,680
Speaker 1: if the guys just behind you trade ahead of you,

2572
02:04:37,600 --> 02:04:40,400
Speaker 1: and how that changes it and how what offers you're

2573
02:04:40,440 --> 02:04:43,680
Speaker 1: going to get. It's it's amazing, it's it's a it's

2574
02:04:43,680 --> 02:04:46,560
Speaker 1: a great murph. We gotta put together a board game

2575
02:04:47,840 --> 02:04:49,520
Speaker 1: where you do this. You know, what you're really got

2576
02:04:49,600 --> 02:04:51,360
Speaker 1: to do is get a camera in the draft room,

2577
02:04:51,800 --> 02:04:55,080
Speaker 1: sound up, full record everything. That'd be the greatest football

2578
02:04:55,160 --> 02:04:58,360
Speaker 1: show of the offseason, right in the draft room with whoever.

2579
02:04:58,640 --> 02:05:01,040
Speaker 1: It was a pretty good access. It's a pretty good

2580
02:05:01,040 --> 02:05:03,200
Speaker 1: movie when Kevin Costner did it, and you'd have to

2581
02:05:03,280 --> 02:05:05,000
Speaker 1: hold on to it for a couple of years like that,

2582
02:05:05,200 --> 02:05:07,400
Speaker 1: would you like that? Well, you know, it was insightful.

2583
02:05:07,560 --> 02:05:09,400
Speaker 1: It's a little bit dramatized on the other's face it,

2584
02:05:09,520 --> 02:05:11,680
Speaker 1: but you'd have to hold on to it for a

2585
02:05:11,720 --> 02:05:13,560
Speaker 1: couple of years. So none of the names were pertinent,

2586
02:05:13,640 --> 02:05:16,560
Speaker 1: you know, and what they thought and all out right, right,

2587
02:05:16,960 --> 02:05:18,600
Speaker 1: it'd be pretty fun in a couple of years when

2588
02:05:18,600 --> 02:05:21,520
Speaker 1: you got to look back. Yeah, all right, Hey, NFL

2589
02:05:21,560 --> 02:05:23,600
Speaker 1: True or false? Brought to you by Yancy's Fancy New

2590
02:05:23,680 --> 02:05:26,880
Speaker 1: York's Artistan Cheese, Yancy Fancy, Here we go. You're ready?

2591
02:05:27,280 --> 02:05:29,680
Speaker 1: I am, I am, yes, yes, we're talking about Carson Wentz,

2592
02:05:29,760 --> 02:05:32,640
Speaker 1: he said. He told reporters in Philadelphia yesterday he is

2593
02:05:32,720 --> 02:05:35,640
Speaker 1: not yet full of recovered from the stress fracture diagnosed

2594
02:05:35,720 --> 02:05:38,480
Speaker 1: last December. A stress fracture in his back cut short

2595
02:05:38,560 --> 02:05:42,120
Speaker 1: his season. Wentz as said he's been cleared for some

2596
02:05:42,240 --> 02:05:44,720
Speaker 1: football activity and has not moved off his goal of

2597
02:05:44,800 --> 02:05:48,120
Speaker 1: taking part in OTA's when they begin in May. Miss

2598
02:05:48,200 --> 02:05:51,040
Speaker 1: the final three games last season once the fracture was discovered.

2599
02:05:51,400 --> 02:05:54,800
Speaker 1: Carson wentz latest injury update is troubling for the Eagles,

2600
02:05:54,880 --> 02:05:58,920
Speaker 1: true or false. Hell, yeah, it's troubling. That's absolutely true.

2601
02:05:58,960 --> 02:06:02,040
Speaker 1: Of course it is. He's their guy, right and the

2602
02:06:02,120 --> 02:06:04,680
Speaker 1: guy who backed him up is gone. Now. Yeah, absolutely,

2603
02:06:04,760 --> 02:06:07,000
Speaker 1: that's troubling for the Eagles. I'd be worried a little bit,

2604
02:06:07,400 --> 02:06:11,120
Speaker 1: and even though we're only in April, I would be worried. True, Yes, absolutely.

2605
02:06:11,600 --> 02:06:14,280
Speaker 1: I don't think they're worried because they probably had a

2606
02:06:14,360 --> 02:06:17,120
Speaker 1: timeline on this before they even thought about letting Nick

2607
02:06:17,160 --> 02:06:18,960
Speaker 1: Foles gone. They know what this is supposed to do

2608
02:06:19,000 --> 02:06:20,720
Speaker 1: when it's supposed to get back. I had a stress

2609
02:06:20,760 --> 02:06:23,920
Speaker 1: fracture in college in my spine. He'll be all right,

2610
02:06:24,320 --> 02:06:26,600
Speaker 1: So I don't think I don't think they're concerned all. Certainly,

2611
02:06:26,680 --> 02:06:29,160
Speaker 1: every quarter, every injury to your starting quarterback is a

2612
02:06:29,240 --> 02:06:33,880
Speaker 1: level of concern above elevated above some schmuck special teams guy,

2613
02:06:34,200 --> 02:06:37,160
Speaker 1: their security blanket is gone. Their security blanket is gone.

2614
02:06:37,200 --> 02:06:41,360
Speaker 1: But I don't think this injury is serious enough for

2615
02:06:41,440 --> 02:06:43,600
Speaker 1: them to have any more concern though you normally would

2616
02:06:43,640 --> 02:06:45,960
Speaker 1: with your starting quarterback, and he's probably on the exact

2617
02:06:46,040 --> 02:06:48,680
Speaker 1: timeline that they they're anticipating, so I don't think it's

2618
02:06:48,920 --> 02:06:51,520
Speaker 1: any extra worry. Now I'm looking to see who they're back,

2619
02:06:51,680 --> 02:06:54,160
Speaker 1: who's their backup quarterback, you know, the Eagles, It don't matter.

2620
02:06:55,080 --> 02:06:57,720
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be Nick Foles, you know. Let me

2621
02:06:57,800 --> 02:06:59,880
Speaker 1: look it up, all right, because I do think it's

2622
02:07:00,040 --> 02:07:02,600
Speaker 1: big and yeah, it's an injury that he suffered with

2623
02:07:02,720 --> 02:07:04,520
Speaker 1: last year, took him out of the lineup last year.

2624
02:07:05,400 --> 02:07:09,200
Speaker 1: Their backup quarterback is Nate Sutfield. So you feel pretty

2625
02:07:09,240 --> 02:07:14,520
Speaker 1: good about Nate Sunfield, okay, NFL True or false? Part two.

2626
02:07:14,840 --> 02:07:18,080
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is the next quarterback to reset the quarterback

2627
02:07:18,160 --> 02:07:21,800
Speaker 1: market after the Russell Wilson deal. True false. I think

2628
02:07:21,840 --> 02:07:23,680
Speaker 1: it is a pretty easy slam dunck. What do you think.

2629
02:07:23,720 --> 02:07:25,720
Speaker 1: I think it's true. I ask no question. He is

2630
02:07:25,760 --> 02:07:28,080
Speaker 1: gonna He may, like I said, there may be a

2631
02:07:28,120 --> 02:07:30,160
Speaker 1: couple of names ahead of him. But Patrick Mahomes is

2632
02:07:30,200 --> 02:07:31,960
Speaker 1: going to reset the market when he takes it when

2633
02:07:32,040 --> 02:07:34,000
Speaker 1: his contract comes up, and I think the Chiefs will

2634
02:07:34,040 --> 02:07:36,160
Speaker 1: jump high to get him. So yeah, I'd say true.

2635
02:07:36,160 --> 02:07:38,400
Speaker 1: When Patrick Mahomes is there, he's going to reset the market.

2636
02:07:38,760 --> 02:07:41,040
Speaker 1: Maybe it's the one that Russell Wilson just reset, but

2637
02:07:41,120 --> 02:07:44,800
Speaker 1: whoever resets it after Russell Wilson reset it, Patrick Mahomes

2638
02:07:44,840 --> 02:07:47,000
Speaker 1: is going to reset it after that guy. Okay, I

2639
02:07:47,080 --> 02:07:50,080
Speaker 1: think that's a no brainer. Absolutely true. Finally, NFL true

2640
02:07:50,120 --> 02:07:53,240
Speaker 1: or false? The Chargers, the Giants, and the Patriots should

2641
02:07:53,240 --> 02:08:00,720
Speaker 1: all take first round quarterbacks? True or false? Chargers, Patriots, Giants, Giants.

2642
02:08:01,440 --> 02:08:04,720
Speaker 1: I don't know. No, I say false. I don't they could,

2643
02:08:04,800 --> 02:08:08,280
Speaker 1: but I don't think it's a neither requirement. Isn't None

2644
02:08:08,320 --> 02:08:10,560
Speaker 1: of those teams have any reason to believe the quarterback

2645
02:08:10,640 --> 02:08:14,840
Speaker 1: they have is going to not finish the season physically. Giants, Right,

2646
02:08:15,240 --> 02:08:18,920
Speaker 1: You're right, Eli Manning. He missed one game in his

2647
02:08:19,120 --> 02:08:23,120
Speaker 1: entire career and they benched him. He's not going anywhere.

2648
02:08:23,320 --> 02:08:26,080
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, I mean, where's he gonna go? And Philip

2649
02:08:26,200 --> 02:08:29,040
Speaker 1: Rivers same thing. So no, it's not imperative they take

2650
02:08:29,080 --> 02:08:32,560
Speaker 1: a first round quarterback if one falls to them. Who's

2651
02:08:32,600 --> 02:08:34,520
Speaker 1: worthy of a first round picked shut But I don't

2652
02:08:34,560 --> 02:08:37,400
Speaker 1: think they need to do it. No, I say false.

2653
02:08:37,480 --> 02:08:39,880
Speaker 1: I say false too. Although, and the reason this came

2654
02:08:39,960 --> 02:08:42,440
Speaker 1: up is because Charlie Casserley, who we were talking about

2655
02:08:42,440 --> 02:08:44,720
Speaker 1: earlier in the show as his mock draft up on

2656
02:08:44,960 --> 02:08:47,520
Speaker 1: NFL dot Com. He's got Kyler Murray going to Arizona.

2657
02:08:47,560 --> 02:08:50,919
Speaker 1: He's got the Giants going thirteenth overall to Dwayne Haskins,

2658
02:08:51,120 --> 02:08:53,600
Speaker 1: the quarterback from Ohio State, And I don't know if

2659
02:08:53,600 --> 02:08:56,160
Speaker 1: it's a shocker. But later in the first round, Charlie

2660
02:08:56,240 --> 02:09:02,480
Speaker 1: Casserley hasum the duke quarterback David Jones going Daniel Jones,

2661
02:09:02,520 --> 02:09:05,600
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, going to the Chargers Los Angeles Chargers with

2662
02:09:05,720 --> 02:09:07,680
Speaker 1: an eye on Philips Rivers future. Look, I don't think

2663
02:09:08,200 --> 02:09:10,920
Speaker 1: I don't think Daniel Jones merits a first round selection,

2664
02:09:11,000 --> 02:09:12,800
Speaker 1: So they might want a quarterback, but I don't think

2665
02:09:12,840 --> 02:09:14,240
Speaker 1: they have to get them there. So I'm going false

2666
02:09:14,320 --> 02:09:16,520
Speaker 1: on this too. I think the Cardinals are likely to

2667
02:09:16,560 --> 02:09:19,240
Speaker 1: take a quarterback and the Giants. But I think I

2668
02:09:19,240 --> 02:09:21,280
Speaker 1: don't think the Chargers are in that boat. I don't

2669
02:09:21,280 --> 02:09:23,120
Speaker 1: think so either. All Right, there you go, NFL two

2670
02:09:23,200 --> 02:09:27,480
Speaker 1: or false sponsored done delivered brought to you by Yancey's,

2671
02:09:27,520 --> 02:09:30,440
Speaker 1: Fancy New York's Artists and Geez Stephen. I coming back

2672
02:09:30,480 --> 02:09:32,360
Speaker 1: with more One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive and

2673
02:09:32,400 --> 02:09:49,320
Speaker 1: this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. As the show comes to

2674
02:09:49,440 --> 02:09:52,040
Speaker 1: an end, we determine what we've learned from today's show.

2675
02:09:52,080 --> 02:09:55,280
Speaker 1: It is presented by Advanced Alarm providing Western New York's

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02:09:55,320 --> 02:09:59,000
Speaker 1: homes and businesses with the fineness and security and Home Theater,

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02:09:59,080 --> 02:10:01,960
Speaker 1: the preferred alarm theater provider of the Buffalo Bills. We

2678
02:10:02,080 --> 02:10:05,600
Speaker 1: had an interesting, really a first class Twitter poll today

2679
02:10:05,720 --> 02:10:08,680
Speaker 1: that deals with draft strategy. The draft nine days away.

2680
02:10:09,080 --> 02:10:11,920
Speaker 1: Bills at number nine, top ten pick. They have some

2681
02:10:12,000 --> 02:10:15,240
Speaker 1: options here. Some people think they should move use those options,

2682
02:10:15,320 --> 02:10:17,200
Speaker 1: move around. What do you think? Our Twitter poll question

2683
02:10:17,280 --> 02:10:20,920
Speaker 1: today is should the Bills move up, move down, or

2684
02:10:21,000 --> 02:10:23,640
Speaker 1: stay put in this year's NFL draft? They got really

2685
02:10:23,680 --> 02:10:26,800
Speaker 1: close it wound up. Forty eight percent of our respondents

2686
02:10:26,840 --> 02:10:29,520
Speaker 1: said they should move down, maybe get some extra picks.

2687
02:10:29,600 --> 02:10:32,560
Speaker 1: Forty eight percent. That's pretty that's pretty that's pretty darn close.

2688
02:10:33,000 --> 02:10:37,680
Speaker 1: Forty two percent say stand packt at number nine and

2689
02:10:38,240 --> 02:10:41,320
Speaker 1: only ten percent say try to move up. That got closer.

2690
02:10:41,360 --> 02:10:43,800
Speaker 1: It started out much more lopsided. Steven. We had a

2691
02:10:43,920 --> 02:10:48,200
Speaker 1: fairly representative sample of a respondents on the Twitter poll anyway,

2692
02:10:48,520 --> 02:10:51,680
Speaker 1: a thirteen hundred respondents, and it was pretty close. Stand

2693
02:10:51,720 --> 02:10:54,240
Speaker 1: pat move up, and again I would I would think

2694
02:10:54,520 --> 02:10:56,400
Speaker 1: standing pad at nine is the way to go. But

2695
02:10:56,600 --> 02:10:58,320
Speaker 1: I'm up for anything. Yeah, I'm up for any. It's

2696
02:10:58,320 --> 02:11:00,480
Speaker 1: getting to the point where people kind of think, alike,

2697
02:11:00,560 --> 02:11:04,560
Speaker 1: there's two philosophies they know too now as they get

2698
02:11:04,560 --> 02:11:05,920
Speaker 1: close to the draft and they hear more and more

2699
02:11:05,960 --> 02:11:09,440
Speaker 1: about the draft prospects and the way this draft class

2700
02:11:09,600 --> 02:11:12,360
Speaker 1: is shaping up, that there's a lot of really good

2701
02:11:12,400 --> 02:11:14,280
Speaker 1: players and you don't really need to jump up to

2702
02:11:14,400 --> 02:11:16,800
Speaker 1: get one, particularly where the Bills sit at number nine.

2703
02:11:16,840 --> 02:11:18,640
Speaker 1: So I think a lot of people realize that, but

2704
02:11:18,720 --> 02:11:21,080
Speaker 1: there's always that, you know, obviously, ten percent of the

2705
02:11:21,080 --> 02:11:23,840
Speaker 1: people who think, you know, go get a guy who's

2706
02:11:23,960 --> 02:11:26,440
Speaker 1: an absolute can't miss, you know, and I get it.

2707
02:11:27,160 --> 02:11:28,600
Speaker 1: There's the way it is, and then I will get

2708
02:11:28,640 --> 02:11:30,840
Speaker 1: it right. And and there may be more than one.

2709
02:11:30,920 --> 02:11:33,520
Speaker 1: There may be a Nick Bozer or quinnin Williams, but

2710
02:11:33,640 --> 02:11:35,640
Speaker 1: it is gonna it would be so expensive to move

2711
02:11:35,720 --> 02:11:38,880
Speaker 1: up that in today's climate in the NFL, you wouldn't

2712
02:11:38,880 --> 02:11:41,240
Speaker 1: be able to draft anybody else. Hey, tomorrow, we can

2713
02:11:41,320 --> 02:11:43,800
Speaker 1: anticipate the release of the schedule. The schedule comes out

2714
02:11:43,840 --> 02:11:46,600
Speaker 1: tomorrow night. I don't want to pre empt tomorrow's Twitter poll,

2715
02:11:46,600 --> 02:11:47,960
Speaker 1: but let me just run this by you. If you

2716
02:11:48,040 --> 02:11:51,040
Speaker 1: could pick one game on the Bill's twenty nineteen schedule,

2717
02:11:51,120 --> 02:11:52,880
Speaker 1: one game you really want to see, what would it be.

2718
02:11:52,960 --> 02:11:55,840
Speaker 1: I've got mine where who? When? Where? Who? I've got

2719
02:11:55,960 --> 02:11:59,280
Speaker 1: Bills at Cleveland, Right, that's at Cleveland. Yeah, Bill's at

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Speaker 1: Cleveland on the first week of the season. That would

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Speaker 1: be my favorite start of the season. What do you

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Speaker 1: think I go for that? Yeah? Wait, primetime game maybe yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe yeah. I'd be up for that either way either way.

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Speaker 1: I'd go one. You're gonna be there either way probably,

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Speaker 1: so yeah, I uh yeah, I can go for that.

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Speaker 1: I go for that. They go they got Denver, Baltimore,

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Speaker 1: Philly Eagles, then anybody that's the first first eight ten games. Um, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I could go for that, right, It's just opening weekend

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Speaker 1: at Cleveland, Buffalo, Cleveland. Let's go, let's go. We'll find

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Speaker 1: out tomorrow and I we'll have more on Matt. I

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Speaker 1: can go for that. We got a big show tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: maybe filling a couple of guess I smell the Twitter

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Speaker 1: poll tomorrow that I've already I've already told us what

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Speaker 1: we're doing. Kind of uh, schedule talk tomorrow, more draft

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Speaker 1: talk tomorrow. We'll get a few guests on the show.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we'll talk to some folks here at one Bill's

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Speaker 1: Drive as well. So come on back tomorrow twelve noon

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Speaker 1: as we bring you another show that'll do it. Am

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Speaker 1: I early here, I'm about a minute earlier. Keep yeah.

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Speaker 1: By the way, for any of those who are interested.

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Speaker 1: One minute, we have to pump the fact that Peyton

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Speaker 1: Manning's gonna have thirty episodes. What does that all about?

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Speaker 1: Hundred years in the NFL. Peyton mannings the executive producer,

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Speaker 1: thirty episodes of him going to different places, thirty different

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Speaker 1: places that are important in the hundred year history of

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Speaker 1: the National Football League. And he's gonna he's gonna do

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Speaker 1: one point one of them where he's gonna break down

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Speaker 1: film of Super Bowl three with Joe Namath while they're

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Speaker 1: playing a game of pool. If they think him the

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Speaker 1: color man on he has not taken a job yet,

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Speaker 1: and this is like a step towards it, right, he's

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Speaker 1: going to be the guy. He's not gonna do it

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Speaker 1: until he lies out. This is what I heard. Okay, yeah, alright,

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Speaker 1: you go now. We're on time. Production assistance today. George Blast,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Colton, Thomas Homilder, Kelly Rude, j j Teredo, Kevin Cargis,

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Speaker 1: James Robelo, Producer Jay Harris. We're back tomorrow with schedule

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Speaker 1: talk and more draft talk. Joined this at noon One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio