1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Clay Travis with the Clay and Buck Show, wishing you 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: and your family a very merry Christmas and a happy 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: New Year. 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 2: Thank you for listening. This is the best of with 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 2: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. 6 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 3: We are very pleased to be joined by our friend 7 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 3: David Rutherford. He's a former Navy seal served a combat 8 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 3: tour in Afghanistan. He's also the host of the Dave 9 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 3: Rutherford Show on the Clay and Buck podcast network, which 10 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 3: is growing, growing, growing every month. It is a fantastic program. 11 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 3: Recommend you all go check it out. Dave, we call 12 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 3: you Rutt. So for anyone who's confused, mister Rutt, tell 13 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 3: us first off, your thoughts on this Veterans Day, speaking 14 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 3: for yourself and your fellow veterans out there, what's your 15 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 3: top level view? How's it going? 16 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 4: Oh, Bucks, Clay, thanks for having me on again. I 17 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 4: think for veterans right now there's a rebirth. There's a 18 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 4: revival taking place in Pete is doing. I mean, every 19 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 4: time I see Joe Kent post something, I want to 20 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 4: go get my kid on and you know, sign back up. 21 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 4: And I just think right now there's a revitalization and 22 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 4: the numbers are showing that people are wanting to go in, 23 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 4: they're wanting to serve. They believe that the President is 24 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 4: fired up to you know, make the American military the 25 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 4: mightiest force in the world again. And I think it's 26 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 4: a real positive moment for everyone. 27 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: When you see those enlistment numbers and Pete Hexth came 28 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: out at the Patriot Awards and he was talking about 29 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: them on Thursday night, and I know that on this 30 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: Veteran's Day, they're shining a bright light on it. Isn't 31 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: that the best actual indication of how the Secretary of 32 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: War as we now have it renamed, but the Secretary 33 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: of Defense for the last thirty or forty years. Isn't 34 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: that the ultimate judgment on him and on the trajectory 35 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: of the military. Do people want to join or not? 36 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean absolutely it is. I mean how you 37 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 4: went to that, I mean, I love that there was 38 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 4: this incredible gala, right, You saw the Marine Corps balls, 39 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 4: you saw Vice President Events speak at Evans speak at one. 40 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:22,119 Speaker 4: You know, the E five mafia represented at the highest levels. Yeah, 41 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 4: people are stoked and the numbers reflect that. You know, 42 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 4: I think it's it's you know, the other the other 43 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 4: great challenge is because we're not in a very substantial 44 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 4: kinetic environment right now, that it's difficult to tell, you know, 45 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 4: whether it'll last, because that's the real testament. Do people 46 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 4: stay in over when there's high levels of combat? But 47 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 4: right now I think young people, young American twenty four 48 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 4: year old men, are are revitalized with this idea that 49 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 4: I can go and serve in the military that my uncle, 50 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 4: that my father, that my grandfather, that my great grandfather 51 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 4: served in and I'm gonna get that genuine sense of 52 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 4: real patriotism and service. 53 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 3: Dave, take us back, if you would, to your decision 54 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 3: to join up, Just what it was like going through, 55 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 3: what was going through your head, what your feelings were 56 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 3: about at the motivations, your sense of what it would 57 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 3: mean to be in the Navy, and of course to 58 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 3: join the teams become a Navy seal. Like, just take 59 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 3: us back to that moment, because I think for a 60 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 3: lot of people who today maybe are considering once again. 61 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 3: You know, we have younger audience members who are listening 62 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 3: who might be thinking about it. We have college age 63 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 3: people listening who might be considering it. What was your 64 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 3: mindset like when you first decided I'm gonna throw my 65 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 3: hat in the ring. 66 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 4: That's a great question, Bock. You know, for me, I 67 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 4: was struggling to try and figure out what I wanted 68 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 4: to do with my life. You know, my athletic career 69 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 4: hadn't worked out the way I had hoped at college level, 70 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 4: and I was just in the position where it's like, 71 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 4: what is the meaning of my life going to represent? 72 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 4: And you know, my great great uncle was in Rose 73 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 4: Theodore Roosevelt's cabinet. You know, I had you know, it's 74 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 4: been several generations since anybody had served, but you know, 75 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 4: I that legacy and link I think was a driving 76 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 4: force as well as just my you know, I was 77 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 4: a gen x er. I was influenced by Rambo and 78 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 4: Commando and all the incredible movies that you know, showed 79 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 4: American military might and power at the highest levels, popped 80 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 4: on Navy seals, and that consumed me. I was like, 81 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 4: this is the this is the thing that's going to 82 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 4: put me on my way, help me figure out what 83 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 4: I'm made of if I'm if I can represent something 84 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 4: bigger than myself and and something that will give me 85 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 4: purpose and meaning. To figure out the longer term idea 86 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 4: of what I might ultimately become. So yeah, it was 87 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 4: a pow or full influence over me to go try 88 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 4: and become a part of you know, not only the 89 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 4: DD but the Navy and the seal teams and down 90 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 4: all the way to the guys that were next to 91 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 4: me that I served with. 92 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: We're talking to David Rutherford. Encourage you to go subscribe 93 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: to his podcast. It's a part of the Clay and 94 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: Buck podcast network. It's Veterans Day. You are a Navy 95 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: Seal and I don't know if we've ever asked you 96 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: this question, but when you were going through the process 97 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: of becoming a Navy Seal, what was the toughest thing 98 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: to you about the Navy seal process itself? It was 99 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: there a moment where you thought, I cannot push myself 100 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: any further. And we've got a lot of people out there, 101 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 1: a lot of young guys that listen to us and 102 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: maybe aspire to be a Navy seal one day. What 103 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: would you say they should know? What would you say 104 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: they should do? 105 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 4: I think the biggest thing is to recognize that you 106 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 4: have so much more in your res of of willpower 107 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 4: than you can even imagine. You know, in these programs, 108 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,799 Speaker 4: whether it's Buds or it's selection or the Q course 109 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 4: or Mars Socks or whatever, amazing selection process from all 110 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 4: the different soft units. Like you have to realize you 111 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 4: have what it takes. It's just a question of believing 112 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 4: in yourself. And then for me, the biggest thing is 113 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 4: I didn't want to let the guys down next to me. 114 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 4: That was the biggest motivator. Like I'm going to be honest, 115 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 4: I thought about, you know, quitting all the time. I mean, 116 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 4: the pain of just going through it, being wet, being sandy, 117 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 4: being miserable, having people scream at you, the whole thing. 118 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 4: But what it does for me is it just motivated 119 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 4: me to be better for the guys next to me, 120 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 4: and then they became the ultimate motivation. So you know, 121 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 4: I think when you're thinking about what it is first 122 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 4: and foremost the number one thing. And I just had 123 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 4: a call with a young man the other day who's 124 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 4: in college and you know, really thinking about it, And 125 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 4: the thing I say to most is is do the 126 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 4: deep dive understand what you're committing to understand. You know. 127 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 4: Bongino Stan put a great text out or tweet out 128 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 4: today where he said, you know, the ultimate thing is service, 129 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 4: serving the men and women that are next to you 130 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 4: in the line of fire, and and and that is 131 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 4: the thing that is the driving force ultimately. I you know, 132 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 4: I know guys that have eight hundred combat missions. I 133 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 4: know a couple of guys that five hundred, four hundred. 134 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 4: You know, multiple silver stars, five bronze stars with valors. 135 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 4: These are the ultimate heroes and you ask them why 136 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 4: did you serve? Why did you fight as hard. 137 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 5: As you did? 138 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 4: And the ultimate thing always comes down because of the 139 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 4: man that was next to me. And so you know, 140 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 4: that's the driving force. If you want to participate with 141 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 4: the with the very highest caliber of committed human beings 142 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 4: to you and your success, then these programs are are 143 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 4: right for you. 144 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 3: Dave, I wanted you to also weigh in on how 145 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 3: are we doing? You know, there was this whole period 146 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 3: during the gat era where a lot of people who 147 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 3: served and a lot of people who saw combat were 148 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 3: being brought back in and going through the transition back 149 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 3: into civilian life. That is less of a focus now 150 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 3: in the general public discussion that it was because you 151 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 3: point out we're not really an active combat zones. 152 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:26,239 Speaker 1: The way we were before. 153 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 3: How are we doing and taking care of our veterans though, 154 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 3: because whether it's we have tunnel to towers for example, 155 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 3: a great sponsor here on the program, you know, there 156 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 3: are some veterans who have long term needs who still 157 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 3: need that assistance from whether it's psychological or physical wounds. 158 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 3: You know, is the VA getting the attention it needs 159 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 3: under this administration? You know, I'm wondering how we're doing 160 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 3: on that front. 161 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 4: I still believe there is an I measurable amount of 162 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 4: work to be done. Yeah, I see the director of 163 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 4: the VA going on all the shows, an he's saying 164 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 4: the right things, but there are still you know, thousands, 165 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 4: tens of thousands of people in the soft community alone 166 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 4: that took the braunt of those grote operational tempo, you know, 167 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 4: and it's not just the combat deployments, it's the endless 168 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 4: training cycles right then also have a really profound effect. 169 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 4: And that's why for me, I really kind of linked 170 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 4: myself to doctor Chris Free and the framework of operator syndrome, 171 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 4: you know, where I started a little nonprofit to really 172 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 4: try and figure out how to address the seventeen different 173 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 4: medical and behavioral health challenges that long term exposure to 174 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 4: high training tempos and high deployment cycles has an impact 175 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 4: on people. You know, you can't send a guy, you know, 176 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 4: doing fourteen fifteen deployments and not expect there to be 177 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 4: some long term damage. And that's why, you know, there 178 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 4: was actually just a new study from a Stanford doctor 179 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 4: that did a case study with two hundred special operations 180 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 4: guys that and he used the operator syndrome framework, and 181 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 4: that study they're validated the original paper and book written 182 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 4: by doctor Chris Free that this is a reality, right 183 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 4: that long term exposure causes metabolic destabilization, It causes behavioral 184 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 4: health challenges in different ways, yes, TTSD, but also survivors guilt, 185 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 4: extensive existential challenges, intimacy issues. Right then you have neurogenic 186 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 4: issues from blast wave exposure, you know, endocrin dysfunction, and 187 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 4: then the orthopedic injuries, the perpetual living and pain, and 188 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 4: so you know, I think there's still a lot of 189 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 4: work to be done. There's a lot of work to 190 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 4: be done at the administrative level to at least bring 191 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 4: in this Stanford doc and doctor. I would love to 192 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 4: see them be able to testify on Capitol Hill and 193 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 4: tell the people that are in charge of the funding 194 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 4: to harve out a little bit of funding to do 195 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 4: research on operators syndrome. I mean, we've seen the most 196 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 4: most substantial thing I think we've seen on the has 197 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 4: been on the state level. You saw a former governor 198 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 4: Perry work with the lawyer Hubbard was his name, and 199 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 4: they got fifty million dollars in funding to do research 200 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 4: on I've a gain in five VMO DMT, which is 201 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 4: the VETS program initiative that really helps guys run, get sober, 202 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 4: come off prescription drugs, and then the other to re 203 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 4: establish neuroelasticity and establish new brain patterning that can help 204 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 4: facilitate putting some of those demons to rest. So there's 205 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:50,719 Speaker 4: a lot of work to be done, a lot of 206 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 4: guys still struggling. And what I would really love is 207 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 4: that for the next kinetic war that could take place, 208 00:11:56,320 --> 00:12:01,719 Speaker 4: which right now could be anywhere, I hope that we 209 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 4: have a better plan in place to take care of 210 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 4: them as opposed to what the GAT guys, the Vietnam guys, 211 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 4: the Korean and then also world where two guys did 212 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 4: not receive. 213 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 3: David Rutherford, thank you for your service, our friend. We 214 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 3: appreciate you, appreciate what you did for the country and 215 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 3: also would recommend all of you listening go check out 216 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 3: the David Rutherford Show on the Clay and Buck Podcast Network. 217 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 3: Rut always appreciate you man, Thank you for giving us 218 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 3: your time today. 219 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 4: God bless you guys. Thank you Buck for your service too, Buddy, 220 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 4: take care much. 221 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 3: Thank you, Ma, Man you too. 222 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: While we're spending time with family this holiday season and 223 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: Buck is stuck in a sound booth recording his new book, 224 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: you can listen to us on the podcast. 225 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 3: Play Don't Rub it In But That's right. 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A lot of different stories we 236 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 1: are following a bunch of people want to weigh in 237 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: variety of different topics relating to Veterans Day. Let's take 238 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: some of these calls, David and Louisiana. We were talking 239 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: about some of the things that veterans went through, and 240 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: you're saying Jonathan Plumb Martin, who was a famous diarist 241 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 1: who fought in the Revolutionary War with the Condinal Army. 242 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 1: I have not read it. I've seen it excerpted quite 243 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: a lot, because he is one of the foremost chroniclers 244 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 1: of what life was like for soldiers in those eras. 245 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: What did you come away with your biggest impression being David, Yeah, 246 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: I just. 247 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 6: Want to correct something. His name was Joseph Plum Martin 248 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 6: and his book is called. 249 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 5: A Private Yankee Doodle. 250 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: It is. 251 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 6: Uh, it's pretty easy to get. And uh, I'm a 252 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 6: I'm a twenty year veteran. I'm retired Navy. 253 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 4: Uh. 254 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 6: And I wanted to wish Buck a happy Veterans Day 255 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 6: and really enjoy your show. And before I just wanted 256 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 6: to say one thing. The last time I talked to 257 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 6: somebody at this number, it was the great Rush Limbaugh. 258 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 6: So it's a very I'm very excited to talk to 259 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 6: you guys because I think you are a great Uh. 260 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 6: It's a great way to keep on the Old Rush Show. 261 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 6: So thank you very much for what you guys do well. 262 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: Thank you for the call, thank you for your service. 263 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: And yes we're going to fire producer Greg for leading 264 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: me over the middle and writing the wrong person's name 265 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: down in the uh in the roster there, but it 266 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: is the plumb Martin UH. If you watch or read 267 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: anything relating to the Revolutionary War, that is a huge 268 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: part of the discussion. Are you inter did at all? 269 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 2: Buck? 270 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: I believe it debuts in the next few days, in 271 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: the new ken Burns Revolutionary War documentary. Have you seen 272 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: him doing a bunch of media lately on it. I'm 273 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: gonna be honest with you. I'm actually because I'm reading 274 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: the Rick Atkinson books right now, the trilogy. He's only 275 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: two volumes in. I'm somewhat interested to see what ken 276 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: Burns puts together. The Civil War documentary that he did 277 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: back in the nineties was and is a work of art. 278 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: And I know a lot of people have watched additional 279 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: ken Burns documentary since he is of the left. But 280 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: I the Central Park five documentary, I don't remember whether 281 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: he did that or not. I mean, Kit Burnsy did baseball, 282 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: he did the Civil War, which is really really well done. 283 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: The Civil War documentary is and it was a PBS 284 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: huge success story back in the day. I mean, he's 285 00:15:54,760 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: probably the most famous documentary historian in the maybe the world, 286 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: certainly the United States. Let's see David in Maryland. You 287 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: got a story for us about Veterans Day? 288 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 7: Hi, playing buck, Can you hear me? 289 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: Okay, we got youa mm hm ah. 290 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 7: Hey, I got an amazing story to tell you. I 291 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 7: was out in Hawaii for work about fifteen years ago, 292 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 7: and I took a day at the end of my 293 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 7: trip to go see the Pearl Harbor and I went 294 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 7: through all the exhibits and then I took the ship 295 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 7: over to the Arizona and went inside, and there was 296 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 7: an old gentleman there. It was in the center. If 297 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 7: you've ever been there, there's a center opening. He was 298 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 7: standing next to the center opening, and I couldn't really 299 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 7: hear him much because it was crowded. But later on 300 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 7: I walked over to listen to him, and it turned 301 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 7: out he was actually on the ship and he was 302 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 7: on the second He was on the second tallest crow's 303 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 7: nest and he got blown out and he woke up 304 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 7: in the water and so I stayed after. I didn't 305 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 7: even get on the ship back because I wanted to 306 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 7: talk to him. It was so amazing, And he said, 307 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 7: you want to know why I think it blow blew up? 308 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 7: And I said, of course I do. He said, well, 309 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 7: we just put a catapult on about a year before 310 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 7: to send off floatplanes to do some reconnaissance, and we 311 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 7: had to put the chargers somewhere. 312 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: Stick with us because we've got a heart out here. 313 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: If we'll keep him over, we'll bring him. That's one 314 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: of the places I'd like to go. 315 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 3: Pearl Harbor, Buck Sexton here, the entire Clay and Bucks 316 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 3: Show wish you and your family a warm Christmas season 317 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 3: and a joyful New year. 318 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 2: You're enjoying the best of program with Clay, Travis and 319 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 2: Buck Sex. 320 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 3: Come back in here to Clay en Buck. Do we 321 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 3: still have that caller who was telling us a really 322 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 3: interesting story? Did he stay through with us? 323 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 1: Yes, David, and Maryland is still there. 324 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 3: All right, David, So so you can go now we 325 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 3: have some time. It is Veterans Day and you were 326 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 3: telling a story that we all wanted to hear, So 327 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 3: you can just give us a little a quick recap. 328 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 3: Tell us where you are set the scene because some 329 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 3: listeners will have rejoined does and we'll let you take 330 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 3: this thing all the way, go for it. 331 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 7: Okay, sure, So I was the gentleman. I was talking 332 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 7: to the gentleman after the ship left and now we 333 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 7: were the only two in there, and he said, uh, 334 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 7: you know, want to know why I think the ship 335 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 7: blew up like it did. Was because we had just 336 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 7: put about nine months before we put a catapult on, 337 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 7: and we used to we would send off floatplanes with 338 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 7: special charges to go out to do reconnaissance. And he 339 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 7: said that the powder they used for that was very volatile. 340 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 7: We had no place to store it except in the magazine, 341 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 7: so we set it around the inside of the charges 342 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 7: for the regular guns, which wasn't as volatile. And he 343 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 7: thought that was he thought that would contributed to the explosion. 344 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,239 Speaker 7: And then and then it actually gets better claim up 345 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 7: because while we're standing there, just the two of us, 346 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 7: the next ship came up to drop people off, and 347 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 7: here comes everybody up and the very last group coming 348 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 7: up where was an older gentleman with two women on 349 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 7: either side. Women on either side of them helping him 350 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 7: up the grant and up the guy came and he 351 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 7: turned it. It was a Japanese guy and he had 352 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 7: an interpreter there, and he said he was on one 353 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 7: of the planes that had dropped the bombs on Pearl Harbor, 354 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 7: and the two just looked at each other and saluted 355 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 7: each other, and there wasn't a dry eye in the place. 356 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 7: It was unbelievable. He said he'd always wanted to be there. 357 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 7: This was the first time he could go. Wow Harbor. 358 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: Well, thank you for calling in and sharing that story 359 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: on Veterans Day. Buck, Have you ever been to Pearl Harbor? 360 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: Have not? No, have not been. I have never been either. 361 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 1: I would like to go. Let me give a super 362 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: endorsement here the World War Two Museum in New Orleans. 363 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: I've been to that of amazing, incredible. It's an incredible spot. 364 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: And the reason why it comes to mind here is 365 00:19:56,040 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: they put veterans. Veterans would come and stand in the 366 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: main lobby that fought in World War Two for years 367 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: and years, veterans from the New Orleans area, veterans traveling 368 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: and tell their stories to people who came to tour 369 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: the World War Two memorial. And there are so few 370 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:23,239 Speaker 1: World War Two veterans left among us now that I 371 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: am so grateful that they have done a phenomenal job 372 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: of chronicling so many of those stories so they aren't 373 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 1: lost to history. With just so many interviews that have 374 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 1: been done with so many of our brave World War 375 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: Two veterans. And if you get the opportunity, if you 376 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: go to New Orleans, I know it's a huge tourist town. 377 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: I know everybody gets out on Bourbon Street and gets 378 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 1: hurricanes and has a phenomenal time in that city. Please 379 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: take the time to go to the World War Two Museum. 380 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: Take your kids. The last time I was in New 381 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: Orleans was the Super Bowl last year, and or I 382 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: guess early this year. I was really impressed at the 383 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: number of kids that were in town to go to 384 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: the game. Kind of a cool thing to get to 385 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: do as a kid, but that mom and dad were 386 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: taking them to as part of being down in town 387 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: for that game, that they were taking them also to 388 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, a lot of Chiefs, a lot of 389 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: Eagle fan bases. But when I was there, the number 390 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 1: of kids that I saw was very impressive. So if 391 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 1: you get the opportunity to go tour that museum, I 392 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: can't recommend it any higher at all. It truly is extraordinary. 393 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: Let's see Dan and Prescott Arizona said, you got to 394 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: have a lunch with General Omar Bradley. How did that happen? 395 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 5: Well, in seventy eight, our unit at Fort Bliss, which 396 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 5: is where General Bradley was stationed or retired. Our unit 397 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 5: was best on host and I was fortunate enough to 398 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 5: be best on post also, and General Bradley came and 399 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 5: visited our unit, and I was selected to have lunch 400 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 5: with him. And the two star general that pushed him 401 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 5: around instructed me that I could ask him anything except 402 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 5: his view on how General Patten died. And he was 403 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 5: very accommodating, he was very nice, he was still in uniform, 404 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 5: still a wonderful gentleman. But I did not ask him 405 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 5: how General Patton died, and I always wanted to. He 406 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 5: autographed his book for me, and I've seen several documentaries 407 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 5: on it, but never quite satisfied with the answer. 408 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: For the Cotton died in a car accident, right, Well, 409 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: that I'm assuming there must be a conspiracy theory associated 410 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: with that. I did not know that. But yes, I 411 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: didn't know that either. That's why I asked. I didn't 412 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 1: know there was anything. Is there is there a conspiracy 413 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: that why would Omar Bradley have not General Bradley have 414 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: not been a wanted you answer asking that question? Do 415 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 1: you have any idea? 416 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 5: Yes, after reading several books. The accident was such a 417 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 5: small accident. Nobody else was injured. There were just a 418 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 5: lot of things that don't add up. You could you 419 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 5: could ask Bill O'Reilly, he wrote The Killing Patten, and 420 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 5: we will. 421 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: Ask Bill O'Reilly. He scheduled to be on in the 422 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: next couple of days. 423 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 3: So what Thursday call got We got uncle Bill Thursday, 424 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 3: so we'll mark this one down for him. 425 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: What yeah, well, well we'll ask him about this. 426 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 3: Is there anything specific that you wanted us to dive 427 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 3: into with Uncle Bill? 428 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 5: I said, just the special around his view on how 429 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 5: Paton gotcha? 430 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: Sure? Sure, that's a good tease for Sharon, who's on 431 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: the road right now, and she says, Bill O'Reilly's going 432 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: to be on with us Thursday. You just listen to 433 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: one of his books out there. By the way, you 434 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,199 Speaker 1: should book Buck. I bought your book, so I have 435 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: spent the money for Buck's new book, which will be 436 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: out in February, which will arrive, I believe at my 437 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: house on publication day. You should also go buy balls, 438 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: especially if people don't have balls in your life, maybe 439 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 1: they can get it through the through the book. But Sharon, 440 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: you just read Bill O'Reilly's got a hugely successful series 441 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 1: on history, and you just read one of them. 442 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 8: Yes, I just drove from Western Montana and I'm heading 443 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 8: home to Indianapolis. I'm in Illinois right now, but I 444 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 8: spent two days on I ninety listening to Killing England 445 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 8: and it was fant past. I mean, I've read other 446 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 8: of his books, Killing Witches, and I can't remember anything 447 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 8: else right now, but anyway, it was a fantastic book. 448 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 8: And when you mentioned Valley Forge, I had to call 449 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 8: in because it was just insane. These guys didn't even 450 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 8: have shoes. They had to tie rags to their feet, 451 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 8: and the British would track them through the snow because 452 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 8: of the blood that they left behind. 453 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable, it really is. I mean, again, having just read, 454 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 1: thank you for the call, Sharon. Stay safe on the 455 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: road as you travel back to Indianapolis. Having just read 456 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: about Valley Ford. But nobody had shoes. I mean, think 457 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: about how cold it is wherever you are, and imagine 458 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: walking around in those rags and dealing clay. 459 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 3: It's it's honestly, you know, this is kind of this 460 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 3: is hitting home for you today. In South Florida. It's 461 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 3: fifty degrees here, my friend, I mean there are It's 462 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 3: just like. 463 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: This is the super Bowl falling apart in Florida, right. 464 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 3: You got iguana's falling out of the trees. You got 465 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 3: everyone walking around in ski parka is because the only 466 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 3: clothing they have that's warm, that's cold weather, is when 467 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 3: they go skiing. It's it's pandemonium out here in the fifties, 468 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 3: my friend, So Valley Forge, no shoes, I know what 469 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 3: it was like. I know it was like for those guys. 470 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 3: I'm walking around here, I have to put socks on 471 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 3: in my sandals. Down here in Miami, it's madness. 472 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: It is. It is Miami's version of Valley Forge. People 473 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: think I'm joking about that. But the iguanas freeze in 474 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: the trees and fall out iguana popsicles when it gets 475 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: cold there. 476 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 3: They're not dead, They're just they their heartbeat slows down 477 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 3: so much, or their system slows down so much that 478 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 3: they essentially pass out. And they fall out of trees. 479 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 3: And by the way, they are pretty big. 480 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: If you can get imagine or killed by an iguana 481 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,959 Speaker 1: falling out of the tree, that'd be a tough way 482 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,959 Speaker 1: to get that's ever happened, But I just can't tell 483 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: you when you see one and it's lying there and 484 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: it's all because this happens. They're they're considerable. 485 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 3: They will whip you with their tail too, so when 486 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 3: they wake up, you don't want to be and they 487 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 3: have a little sharp teeth. 488 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 1: This is why it's feeling all amazing that they just 489 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: go to like they just freeze like that and and 490 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 1: truly fall out of the trees and for. 491 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 3: You know, you know they're they were they're escaped pets. 492 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 3: They're an invasive species. Oh yeah here in South Florida. 493 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 3: They are absolutely not native. They came from South America. 494 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 3: They are not native to Miami. But man have they 495 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 3: taken to this habitat. And unfortunately they're really rough on 496 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 3: foundations for buildings. 497 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: They burrow and they dig, so they can be a pest. 498 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: They can be dangerous to. 499 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 3: Building structures, sort of like the boa constrictors and pythons 500 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 3: that they have here now. Also pets that were released 501 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 3: the pets that I like, though, we have parrots that 502 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 3: have been released, and the parrots are fun, they're nice. 503 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 3: They're not native either. There are very few of these 504 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 3: species that people associate with. Alligators and crocodiles. The only 505 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 3: place in the world where they coexist in the same 506 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 3: ecosystem is and they are native to South Florida Manates 507 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 3: obviously there, you know. And then the sharks, which we've 508 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 3: talked about a lot, but a lot of the things 509 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 3: you think of as Florida animals, they're pets that people 510 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 3: brought here. 511 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: Bruce in Hastings, Minnesota, you got to call for us 512 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: about the World War Two museum. 513 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I. 514 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 9: Just hopped in my truck, turned it on, heard you 515 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 9: guys talking about that, and just to let you know, 516 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 9: they are still collecting stories. They my dad's World War 517 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 9: two bet he turns one hundred on Saturday. 518 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: Oh, that's awesome. Congratulate him for us. Sorry to cut 519 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: you off, but congratulate him for one hundred on us. 520 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: And so they're still collecting the stories. 521 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 522 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 9: He was shot down over Tokyo in the b twenty 523 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 9: nine and Pow in Japan for the last several months 524 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 9: of the war, so they're still collecting stories. It's on 525 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 9: my bucket list to get down there and see the 526 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 9: place myself. 527 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 3: So who, thank you so much? Grab by way real quick, Bruce, 528 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 3: any tips? And I mean, when it's fifty degrees in Minnesota, 529 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 3: you guys, do you sleep shirtless outside on your lawn like? 530 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 3: Cause that doesn't bother you at all? Right, that's like 531 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 3: a ball me day in Minnesota pretty much. 532 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 9: I was up at my cabin this weekend. It was 533 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 9: about nineteen and I was sweating, So you know, there 534 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 9: we go. 535 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, he admitt Man, he's at Minnesota. People they would out, 536 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 3: they would outlast us. Florida people are sauty. 537 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: That you You as a New Yorker, you dealt with 538 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: cold winners quite a lot because New York City, the 539 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: wind is brutal through so many of those buildings and 540 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: everything else. You're now down in Miami. When we were 541 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: in Fort Wayne, Indiana, we stepped off the plane. It 542 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: was a little chilly in Fort Wayne. You were ready 543 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: to just head straight back to Miami. You're like, it's 544 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: fifty four degrees. I don't know a lot of people living. 545 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 3: I wanted to light a little a little fire and 546 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 3: just keep my hands, you know, over it outside because 547 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 3: it was so cold in Indiana. I think it was 548 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 3: in like the high fifties. I don't know how you 549 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 3: guys deal with this stuff really really tough. So you 550 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 3: know we're working on it. Though we're working on it. Well, 551 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 3: take some more called clay. Who U did you have 552 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 3: if your grandparents generation military service on that side. 553 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and my uncle is actually eighty four. He's dealing 554 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: right now with cancer. I'm glad you mentioned this. He 555 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: listens and tries to watch as he can. But he 556 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: was in Vietnam and sou and worked on While in Vietnam, 557 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: he was in charge of helicopter maintenance repair and one 558 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: of the crazy things I think I mentioned this before 559 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: on the show, but one way they ensured that everybody 560 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: who would build the helicopters was as as steadfast in 561 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: their uh in their rehabilitation and then their fixing of 562 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,719 Speaker 1: the helicopters was every time they fixed one, they had 563 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: to be the first guys to go up in it. 564 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: So for anybody that has been in a helicopter, they 565 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: would bring him in say hey, there they need maintenance, 566 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: they need to be fixed, and then you go right 567 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: up in it, so the way that you knew that 568 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,239 Speaker 1: you were working on it and making sure that it 569 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: was as good as anybody could be. So he flew 570 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: all over Vietnam my helicopters. 571 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 3: My mother's father, so my maternal grandfather who's passed away 572 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 3: years ago. But he was an officer on the USS Batan, 573 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 3: which is one of those converted converted aircraft carriers. It 574 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 3: was essentially they did this quick fix to these ships 575 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 3: to make them into I think they're called cr not crvs. 576 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 3: I forget there's some some designation for them. But yeah, 577 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 3: he was He initially was a pilot and did some 578 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 3: did some training pilot training. But I just remember reading 579 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 3: about how I think we lost was it fifteen thousand 580 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 3: or thirty thousand people to flight accidents in the Pacific theater? 581 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 3: Not shot down, never found him, just the plane crashed 582 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 3: in the ocean, and that was that going between theaters 583 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 3: of conflict now, you know, like transport essentially, I think 584 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 3: it was something like either fifteen or thirty thousand, some 585 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 3: astonishing with training accidents and astonishing the high numbers. So yeah, 586 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 3: there's a lot of ways that people are taking risks 587 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 3: when they serve you're. 588 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 2: Listening to the best of Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. 589 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We're going 590 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: to continue to take your calls, but on the mic 591 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: right now, if you can hear it bouncing around a 592 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: little bit, is a super cute baby boy who is 593 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: a chunk in his veterans day gear. 594 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 3: Can I just say, Baby Speed wants to say, with 595 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 3: his American flag attire, thank you to all of our veterans. 596 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 3: He's very thankful and very proud. 597 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,479 Speaker 1: Including his grandpa who is and all of their family, 598 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: which are longtime military family. 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He's he's a 609 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 3: big I don't think we got a I don't think 610 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 3: we got a quarterback here. I think we got Somebody's 611 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 3: gonna be tackling people. 612 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: He's gonna be in the oh. You can hear him. 613 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: He's starting to he's making his first he is making 614 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: his debut on the air. He's going to be in 615 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: the trenches, creating running back holes. 616 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 3: Say something, Say mama, you got mama. No, okay, another time. 617 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 3: He's a little shy right now. Apparently we're back. 618 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: Final Hour. Next