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Speaker 2: with people about it that they they entrenched themselves in

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00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 2: one side or the other side, right and it, and

428
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,640
Speaker 2: then decided that they were staying there no matter what evidence,

429
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 2: and no matter what the fuck they heard, you know.

430
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 2: And then and in the end of the day, you

431
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 2: really do yourself a disservice with this ship, you know,

432
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:17,360
Speaker 2: because now that that that different facts have come to light,

433
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 2: and now that things have been confirmed, and now that

434
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 2: things are shaken out a certain way, everybody's just like,

435
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 2: I'm only accepting the evidence that supports the ship I

436
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 2: already believe. And to be honest, it's somewhere in the

437
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 2: fucking middle, Like everybody on these extremes are tripping, it's

438
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 2: somewhere in the middle. Yes, it's funny, uh and and

439
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 2: it's good and it's and it's public funny fodder for

440
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 2: comedians and ship because that nigga does seem like he

441
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 2: lied or did something shady set up the hoax. Now,

442
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,719
Speaker 2: the Chicago PD basically framed a guilty man. He may

443
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 2: not be the gay tupot, but he might be the

444
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 2: gay OJ because that motherfuckers basically got framed by the

445
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 2: goddamn cops who really should have just shot to shut

446
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 2: the fuck up, did their investigation, went to court and

447
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,360
Speaker 2: then presented their evidence, and they probably would have won.

448
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 2: Now all that being said, because like I said, this

449
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 2: stow where in the middle. I'm still happy that they

450
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 2: didn't prosecute him because I don't think he should have

451
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 2: went to jail for this shit, because that seems very

452
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 2: fucking stupid. It just seems very stupid to see him

453
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 2: to jail with all the shit in the world going

454
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 2: on with these real problems. Y'all are only mad because

455
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 2: this dude put y'all on the spot, and y'all are

456
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 2: the racist police Department. He said, y'all were, That's all.

457
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 2: That's all, y'all just mad. Your CPD is, Like, what's

458
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 2: so funny is as much as we do, the CPD

459
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 2: ain't shit. So I mean, that's why I won't support

460
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 2: to them, right, But CPD ain't shit, which is also

461
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 2: why you don't do a hoax in their city. Like

462
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 2: it works both ways. It just depends on what the

463
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,880
Speaker 2: fuck you want to believe or which angle you want

464
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 2: to take on it. But to me, I see all

465
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 2: the angles and I'm like, this is just a mess

466
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 2: of agendas and it's kind of funny and I can

467
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 2: only and honestly the only reas I'm breathing and allowing

468
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 2: myself to really laugh at this shit now because he's

469
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 2: not going to prison, nothing's gonna happen to him. He's

470
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 2: paid that money, he did that fucking thing. They after

471
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 2: him to get some more money, which he may or

472
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 2: may not even fucking pay. They send him a bill.

473
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 2: Who knows if he's gonna pay that ship. Everybody act

474
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 2: like he motherfucking uh. You know, Jeff Bezo's rich and shit. Now,

475
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 2: who knows how much money he got, But yeah, it's

476
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 2: all that shit. Just to say, man, like, you're not

477
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 2: a hater for laughing at that ship anymore than you're

478
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 2: homophobic for laughing at that shit anymore than you know,

479
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 2: if for the people that have decided that they can't

480
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 2: laugh or whatever, you know, those people aren't wrong either,

481
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 2: you know, it's just it's just however you feel about it.

482
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 2: I just think people need to stop and consider the

483
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 2: fact that they're starting to treat this as if this

484
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 2: nigga was just conspiratorially set up by the powers that

485
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 2: be for no fucking reason. It just doesn't It just

486
00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 2: doesn't make sense. This whole idea of he someone sits

487
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 2: sets up a hate crime for him to call the cops,

488
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,479
Speaker 2: for the cops to leak out that he was involved

489
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 2: in the in the in the planet of the crime,

490
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 2: like what what like? Who won? Who benefited? Who's the

491
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 2: man from? OHI who set this in the motion to

492
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 2: get just Smolett? Of all people that like, why are

493
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 2: why not? Why are they setting up everybody this way?

494
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 2: I don't like it just seems like too much shit.

495
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 2: So you know, and I say all that as one

496
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 2: of the people that really did extend the benefit of

497
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 2: the doubt and say I will wait until I see

498
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 2: more information before making any decision. But yeah, the decision

499
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 2: to me is he set that ship up, and they

500
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 2: still a corrupt Uh, they still a corrupt police department.

501
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 2: And yet it is funny that now that he got

502
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 2: away with it, we can kind of laugh and.

503
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 4: They both can exist. Yeah, both of those things. People

504
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 4: that can like he is either one or the other. No,

505
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 4: they both can exist.

506
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 2: These agendas are too fucking strong man and white people

507
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 2: that are weighing in and wanting to see him punish,

508
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 2: fuck them too. For me, that no better, like a

509
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,919
Speaker 2: lot of the people that want to see him extremely

510
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 2: punish a to me, better than people that want to

511
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 2: see like folks that falsely accused soone of sexual assault

512
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 2: punish to the fullest extent of lown shit, because because

513
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 2: they really do the damage to the sexual assaut victims. No,

514
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 2: rapists do the damage. Rapists do the damage, Okay, you know,

515
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 2: And I'm kind of surprised because to me, another reason

516
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 2: I don't feel protective of dressing in this situation is

517
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,479
Speaker 2: because he was playing around with something that is serious,

518
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So while I don't want

519
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 2: to see him go to prison, I also don't really

520
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 2: I also don't understand how people are making this argument

521
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 2: of like we have to understand and respect this shit.

522
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 2: No we don't. That was really fucked up. What he

523
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 2: did that was really fucked up. And if you can't

524
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 2: at least understand that, then I mean, you just don't

525
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 2: play like that, you know, That's all it does. Like

526
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: I can't imagine what the fuck the point of that

527
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 2: was supposed to be. But that's a very serious fucking

528
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 2: thing to do, you know. So when people feel upset

529
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 2: about it, I get it. I just didn't want to

530
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 2: see him go to prison over it. But it is

531
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 2: upsetting because that real hate crimes are up in America

532
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 2: for real, Yes they are, you know, So we don't

533
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 2: need somebody with that level of platform fucking around with it.

534
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 2: It's not a game, it's not a joke, and it's

535
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 2: not something for attention or whatever, you know. But I

536
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 2: don't hold him to the point of and you messed

537
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 2: it up for everybody because, to be honest, the kind

538
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 2: of people that will say Jesse Smolett made it so

539
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 2: they don't believe hate crimes were never believing them in

540
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 2: the first place. So it's okay to just go what

541
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 2: he did was fucked up, what he did. If people

542
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 2: want to mock that, that's fine. It happened in public.

543
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 2: He's a public person. And also fuck the CPD, the

544
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 2: Chicago Police Department and heroes and this either that's fine.

545
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 2: All those things can exist the same time, as Karen said, anyway,

546
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 2: we had oh in the pole for the episodes. Do

547
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 2: you worry about your car being the client even when

548
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 2: you have the money? Yes, the scars are overdraft fees,

549
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 2: will never heal or nope, I know I got the money, Karen,

550
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 2: I guess.

551
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 4: Why I don't cross over to the white woman line.

552
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 4: I know I got the money, and I will look

553
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 4: at them like the bitch, what run it again?

554
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm still at the forty So that's

555
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 2: forty five percent of people that agree with you. I

556
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 2: feel like I'm still at the fifty four percent where

557
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 2: i feel like the scars will never heal. I'm always

558
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 2: waiting for the other shoe to drop, like the money's

559
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 2: not really in there, sir, it was all the prank.

560
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 2: Alisha says, I'm so bad. I have to check my

561
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: account balance in my app or my phone in line

562
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 2: to avoid stressing out, even though I just checked them

563
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 2: before I left the house. I literally hold my breath

564
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 2: till the transaction is approved. Yeah, shout out to phone

565
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 2: apps and especially that face unlocked thing, right, so I

566
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 2: can just turn them BBNT and like, let me say,

567
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: let me say, okay, whoo, all right, I should get

568
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 2: these groceries. Sugar Bab says, I'm with Alisha. I checked

569
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 2: my phone app obsessively, especially before major purchases, and even

570
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 2: when I know I got it. I think we suffer

571
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 2: from CCPTSD CCD PTSD, which is credit card decline PTSD. Yeah.

572
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 2: For me, I think it's really the overdraft fees. Yeah,

573
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 2: overdraft fees.

574
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like like, uh, I do check to be sure

575
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 4: I have it in there, but I am the type

576
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 4: of person to go, well, when you charge it, it

577
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 4: better not fucking declined, because I know I got that

578
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 4: got their money, so we're gonna have problems. Yeah.

579
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 2: I mean when I say overdraft threes, I'm talking about

580
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 2: that's the overdraft feed I got PTSD from those, not Yeah,

581
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 2: it's not just the decline, it's the extra level of

582
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 2: like checking my account seeing that red number instead of

583
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 2: that black and being like uh.

584
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, because you know, people fail to realize we

585
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 4: lived in an era of pre Obama where shit could

586
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 4: bounce forever, and they was like, look y'all, can't be

587
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 4: putting people's accounts in the negative hundreds and thousands.

588
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 2: Of dollars and shit like that. Come on, this is stupid.

589
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 4: People will never pay bills and shit like that, Like

590
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 4: you can't take people's whole paychecks.

591
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 2: That's fucking stupid, you know.

592
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 4: So from that, yes, I do understan and uh, it's

593
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 4: you looking like now I do something PTSD from.

594
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 2: That pit piece. Yes, shout out to Obama for changing

595
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 2: those laws.

596
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 4: Come on, people have a tendency that he didn't do nothing.

597
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 4: Kiss my black ass.

598
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 2: Yes he did. Anyway, I'm blaming Rod for this wood.

599
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 2: Would you believe my goddamn card said decline? While I

600
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 2: was listening to this podcast for thirty dollars staples, I

601
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 2: chuckled due musta thought I was crazy and reached from

602
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 2: my other car to Kevin moving. I was just thankful

603
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 2: that I know I had enough funds and I wasn't

604
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 2: living on the edge because those days were stressful. Not

605
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 2: that life couldn't couldn't life again, but I'm trying to

606
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 2: have fewer cc DPTSD days.

607
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, because now credit cards have adjusted because you can

608
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 4: actually have a balance on your credit card. But if

609
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 4: you are like late on payments, don't pack your payments

610
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 4: on time, even ef you got a balance, the credit

611
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 4: card company will decline. If you haven't paid, they'd be

612
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 4: like decline, You be like, but I got them under

613
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 4: the It was like a bitch, you ain't paid us,

614
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 4: so you wouldn't not make.

615
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 2: No more porches towards this balance t Smoke says, Listen,

616
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 2: when I tell y'all that random thought about paying car

617
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: repairs spoke to my entire soul. Man, I too would

618
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 2: have to negotiate what I had when I had a

619
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 2: luxury vehicle on what repairs I could do when a

620
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 2: light cut on It got so bad I almost thought

621
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 2: I'd just cover up all the dashboard lights just so

622
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: I wouldn't see them whenever come out. Whenever they came on,

623
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I would be ready to fight the mechanic

624
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 2: when they would come tell me the estimated costs for

625
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 2: the damn car. I would look at them like, who

626
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: the fuck you think you talking to? Do you uh trees?

627
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:31,959
Speaker 2: Did your trees have money growing off of them?

628
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 3: Or what?

629
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 2: I couldn't have been happier when that car died out

630
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 2: on me. I may have exaggerated a little bit and

631
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 2: telling my assurance company that there was smoke coming out

632
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 2: the hood, But who are any of us to judge?

633
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,479
Speaker 2: Who is me to judge? Baby? No judgment here. Now

634
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 2: I'm driving a magnificent Nissan, and whenever I go into

635
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 2: a dealership for service, I am more than happy to

636
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 2: let them provide all the services. Hell, when you go

637
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 2: from paying eighteen hundred dollars eighteen hundred dollars for repair

638
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 2: to five hundred to seven hundred, I almost want to

639
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 2: pay in advance. Lol. Y'all have a great one, Love

640
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 2: you both. Thank you.

641
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 4: T smoke, I'm on the repairs. Ain't no joking. Yeah,

642
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Speaker 4: it looks it's certain SHBV because you be like, how

643
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 4: much is the fuckucking on?

644
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 5: Change?

645
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 2: Get out of here? Right. We had episode eighteen seventy

646
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Speaker 2: three sinslest We We talked about the death of Nipsey Hustle,

647
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 2: among other things, Ja Cole speaking on cancel culture and

648
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: all that type of stuff. We had one comment Michelle

649
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 2: just says, happy birthday, Karen, thank you. That's the whole comment.

650
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 2: The poe was do you think you can afford a home?

651
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 2: And let's look at the answers. Yes, no, I already

652
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 2: have one. Karen, do you think you can afford home?

653
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 4: I'm mixed. No, you know, it's one of the things

654
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 4: where I go, but like this, when it comes to

655
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 4: home purchases, I'm just scared and I'm like, hey do

656
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 4: because for me, it's a cash twenty two Because people

657
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 4: talking about a home It's a whole lot of fucking

658
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 4: expenses that go into a home that people don't talk about.

659
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 4: It's a lot of upfront fees people don't talk about.

660
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 4: You know, black and brown people have intended to get

661
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 4: declined more from home loans. You know, if shit break,

662
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 4: I can call the I can call a property people

663
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 4: intend to can fix their shit, not the shit break.

664
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Speaker 4: Now I got to go cough up there, Like that

665
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 4: shit I think about when I pay in rent, I

666
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 4: pay in rent for y'all to repair shit. You know.

667
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 4: So these are costs that actually fall on new home

668
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 4: buyers that they don't Actually a lot of people aren't

669
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Speaker 4: actually prepared for.

670
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 2: You know, you're wiring go out, your plumbing, go out

671
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:39,439
Speaker 2: all that shit.

672
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 4: All that shit falls on you, plus whatever your mortgage is,

673
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,439
Speaker 4: you know, plus property taxes.

674
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 2: Plus insurance from the home.

675
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 4: So those are the things that I think of. I'm

676
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 4: just telling you how my mind takes when it comes

677
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 4: to home. So I'm like, can I fault one?

678
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 2: We probably can? But do I want one or not?

679
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 4: Know? Because I'm like, I don't feel like being attached

680
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,280
Speaker 4: to all these fees. It is, it's fucking unpredictable. Nobody

681
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 4: want anybody to tell us you buying it home. It's

682
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 4: unpredictable for me, it is, you know that, but that's

683
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 4: just my.

684
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 2: View of it. Yeah, I think we could afford a home,

685
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 2: but I don't necessarily want one. I like, I like

686
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 2: Ratton so and I know some people, you know, they're

687
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 2: like homes build equity and all that stuff, and I

688
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 2: feel people, but I ain't got no kids to pastor

689
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 2: home down too. So I kind of like the idea of, like,

690
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 2: if shit get too rough, I can be like, I

691
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 2: don't want to live here anymore, and I would like

692
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 2: to live in another place. And then you know, also

693
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 2: where you can afford more, you can move on up,

694
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 2: and like I want a better home. I want a

695
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 2: different type of home, apartment or whatever. So, uh, do

696
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 2: you think you could afford a home? Yes? Twenty No,

697
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 2: forty five percent, and I already have a home thirty

698
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 2: five percent. Doctor Dostak says, my rent is a three

699
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 2: digit number, a house stars and six digits. Hell no,

700
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 2: Alicia says, I second a broke when, oh, Brooklyn shoebas,

701
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 2: you forgot the choice. Oh fuck no, And at least

702
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 2: you said I second at Brooklyn shoe Babe, I don't know.

703
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 2: I don't think I know. I can't. Yeah, so, but

704
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 2: and I'm sure that there's some programs and ways that

705
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 2: people you know, maybe not know about. And if you

706
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 2: can find people you trust, you know, then maybe it's

707
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 2: a completely different equation, I think for black people, just

708
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 2: you know, for a lot of us, it's like, man,

709
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 2: it's so rare to find people you feel like you

710
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 2: can trust, and you know, you're constantly reading all this

711
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 2: shit about, yeah, this person got screwed over black people

712
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 2: not getting this.

713
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 4: Right, and people down in their homes and shit like that,

714
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 4: and then.

715
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 2: Then the black people are the ones that get blamed for.

716
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 4: It, the housing market, housing bubble and shit like that.

717
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 4: You go, oh no, no, no, no no, because I

718
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 4: remember when that shit was happening. Used to healing the radio.

719
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,479
Speaker 4: I didn't know much about buying a house then, because

720
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 4: you know, I've done a little bit of research on it,

721
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 4: but I didn't know much about buying a house din

722
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 4: in the early twenties. And when you were here, you

723
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 4: could buy a house now, no money down and move in.

724
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 4: And I was like, I don't know much, but the

725
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 4: shit don't fucking work like that. You normally have to

726
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 4: put money down, sit has to be approved to take

727
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 4: sixteople have them many days like that.

728
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,439
Speaker 2: Shit don't side. Shit sound too good to be true.

729
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 2: There was shit busted.

730
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, that's why, because people are actually scamming.

731
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. We got comments on the last episode of the week,

732
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 2: which was it's so cold in the Epoch, Pinky says Hi.

733
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 2: Karen and Rod have two comments. Number one, Dean don

734
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,240
Speaker 2: the irritant Henry is dead. No matter how much Carol

735
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 2: is suffering now that Henry is dead, it's tiny in

736
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 2: comparison to how much viewers of suffering whilst Henry was

737
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 2: still alive. Bye Bye Henry. Okay, that's how you feel.

738
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: Number two. The actress that plays alf of Samantha Morton's

739
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 2: stars in a British TV series called Harlot's on Hulu

740
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 2: and the US. Y'all watched part of season one. The

741
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 2: series is about Margaret Wells, played by Samantha Morton, who

742
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 2: runs a brothel in eighteen century London. Karen, I think

743
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 2: you might really enjoy this series. Hollis is not what

744
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 2: one might assume. Yes, there's plenty of cleavage, a dominatrix

745
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 2: and baldy humor, but the show is also smart and feminist.

746
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 2: PS Samanon. Samantha Morton's nineteen year old daughter, stars in

747
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 2: a newly released serious Handah on Amazon. I saw the

748
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 2: first episode to find an interesting pinky.

749
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 4: I've a questioned, didn't you do a which smacking good?

750
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 4: Or am I losing it?

751
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 2: Look smacking good?

752
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 3: Good?

753
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get to it. Okay, I'm a professional over here.

754
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 6: I got it.

755
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 2: The poll for the episodes, do you think Ezekiel and

756
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 2: Carol are going to are done for good? Yes, it's over,

757
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 2: or no, they'll get back together one day. I think

758
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 2: they'll get back together. Fifty two percent of people agree

759
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 2: with you, so this is a very close poll. Forty

760
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 2: eight percent of people disagree. Eve. He says it ain't

761
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 2: over because on the Cold Code nights, she's gonna miss

762
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 2: the getting those jeriatric cakes, smashes the rings. They say,

763
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 2: it's so cold in a D. But the only D

764
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 2: Carroll is going to be thinking about is Zeke's. I

765
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 2: don't know, Eve, I feel like I feel like Carolyn.

766
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 2: I feel like the flame is gone. I think it's

767
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 2: over for them, and I think it's because Henry died.

768
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 2: I don't think they're ever going to get over it,

769
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 2: So deal with that shit, that's what you want it

770
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 2: the pole, I mean the episode that I did of

771
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 2: medium Talk forty one with Damon Young. We only got

772
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 2: one comment on it so far, although many of you

773
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 2: have commented on Twitter and stuff. But I appreciate when

774
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 2: y'all leave comments on social media. I appreciate when y'all

775
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 2: leave comments on the website. But it was from Phil

776
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 2: who says this talk wasn't as spicy as the last

777
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 2: one with Kwan. But well, now, technically that's not my

778
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 2: last medium talk. I think I've done a few since

779
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 2: Kwan Mills and even interviewed an author, but maybe that's

780
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 2: the last one, no, because I actually put those on

781
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 2: the main feed as well. So yeah, now, I did

782
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 2: also release a medium talk Going Greek, where I finally

783
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 2: put out the episode where I talked to two people

784
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 2: who had experiences pledging Greek fraternity sorority organizations college. And

785
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 2: we got some comments on that in Twitter and all

786
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 2: that stuff, but I don't have them here, but thank

787
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 2: you for the people who left comments on that. Glad

788
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 2: y'all enjoyed them. And yeah, since then, I've had reclaiming

789
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 2: our space with feminist to Jones where I interviewed her

790
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,720
Speaker 2: first step act, where I talked to Lewis L. Reid,

791
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 2: a national organizer for Cut fifty. So yeah, you know

792
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 2: it's been you know, I've done other people than just Kwan, Phil,

793
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 2: But anyway, this talk wasn't as spice as the last

794
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 2: one with Kwan, but you got a lot more food

795
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 2: on the plate this time around. Thank you. This book

796
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,479
Speaker 2: has been added to my kendle and we'll be read

797
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 2: right after I'm done with the Forever First latest book.

798
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 2: Thanks Phil. Yeah, and we had a shorter time, you know,

799
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 2: because we only got like a little of an hour

800
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,280
Speaker 2: to do this one. And I think with Kwime Mills,

801
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 2: I wanted to say, I mean, I was like, damn

802
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 2: this dude, he's still going I'm like, sure you okay,

803
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 2: we only schedule the hour, but he was feeling out

804
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 2: the team, so that nothing wrong with that, all right.

805
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 2: We got h skype messages, I think, let me check,

806
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 2: all right, we got one from Thursday. I haven't checked.

807
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 2: I haven't scanned these yet, so we'll all be hearing

808
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 2: it together for the first time. Yeah, seven or four, five, five, seven, zero,

809
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 2: one eighty six is the number and two minutes or less.

810
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 6: Hey, first of all, then away.

811
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Speaker 5: Secondly, I don't like to say I love you guys

812
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 5: love the show. Listening to the Walking dais recapt and

813
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 5: I would like to say that when it comes with you.

814
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 5: I like her way more than Henry. But some things

815
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 5: who are watching the show, I was one. But she

816
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 5: was trying to get bit By to zombie in a

817
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 5: way I wasn't sure if she was doing it, Like

818
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,320
Speaker 5: I kind of felt like she still might be with

819
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 5: the Whippers because if she got big on her arm

820
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 5: and coverage it up, she'd go inside and kill everybody.

821
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 2: But they're on the same note.

822
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 5: It's a matter of you know, is she going back

823
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 5: to like her parents and she'll always be one of

824
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 5: them as one of the guardians.

825
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: So at that point I was interested in, like, is

826
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 2: she ready with them or is she still some.

827
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 5: Kind of with her mom even though we know she

828
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 5: can't really go back, but she'd rather die, but as

829
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 5: dying still doing it as a benefit for the Walkers.

830
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 5: So that's just something I was thinking about. And like

831
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 5: I said, let you guys know, they show and I'm

832
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 5: in here with yeah, fucking.

833
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 2: Hey, I really did not like that, dude, wow. Uh,

834
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't think Lydia is still on the

835
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 2: side of her mom.

836
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 4: And shit, Henry had that like it really impacted her

837
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 4: because he's the only reason why she's there.

838
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think once you see her literally asking

839
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 2: Carol to kill her, so you realize she was trying

840
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 2: to die, it's no other thing that was happening there.

841
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 2: But I feel I know y'all are suspicious.

842
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 6: Y'all, Karen, I will have a response to one of

843
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 6: your random thoughts. What if somebody has hacks all the

844
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 6: good stuff that they want from his transcripts and attached

845
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 6: hers and all that, but the newspapers want to print

846
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 6: it because they're afraid it was looking biased.

847
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 2: M that's deep. I hope that's not true, Okay, right,

848
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: I don't think. So here's the thing. I think if

849
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 2: they if Trump was hacked and that shit leaked somewhere,

850
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 2: I feel like the media would absolutely cover it because

851
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 2: they can't help themselves with Trump. They honestly covered everything

852
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 2: related to Trump, even when, and to the point where

853
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 2: they even cover his lies with like some level of

854
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 2: like shock every time, like he's lying, you know, So

855
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 2: I think they would cover a leak. I just think

856
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 2: that people hacking shit are on Trumps side for the

857
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 2: most part. You know, it's Russia, it's Wiki leaks, and

858
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 2: there are people that really support the Republican agenda. Now,

859
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 2: one thing that you did make me think though when

860
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 2: you wrote it, when you called in, was I wonder

861
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 2: also if uh, like, if it was ransomed, like right right,

862
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 2: we had you, uh give us a million dollars or

863
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 2: will tell I feel like Trump would pay that? Oh oh,

864
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 2: I believe yeah. I think I think Hillary and some

865
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 2: other people might not because it's just one of those

866
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: things where you pay and then that becomes part of

867
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:14,439
Speaker 2: the scandal too. Like long people with longsighted memories are like, yeah,

868
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 2: but if I pay this, then I become the person

869
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 2: that negotiated with people to keep my secrets from being

870
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 2: out there. So it now it's just gonna look doubly

871
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 2: bad that I also gave them money and was blackmailed

872
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 2: into this. So I do think that maybe, you know,

873
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 2: if it were a blackmail scenario, and you know the

874
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 2: way that Trump, you know, has paid like the National

875
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 2: Inquirer to keep his business out the streets, I bet

876
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 2: he would pay hackers not to put his shit in

877
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: the streets. So, of course, all right, I think that's

878
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 2: it from this week for voicemails. Let's get to the emails.

879
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 2: The Blackouts is at gmail dot com as an email address.

880
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 2: Movie US and Bernie's US. This is by Audrey, who says, Hi,

881
00:45:58,360 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 2: Rod and Karen.

882
00:45:59,320 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 5: I like to know.

883
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,919
Speaker 2: So if you see the connection between US, the movie

884
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 2: and US, Bernie Sanders campaign slogan not me us US

885
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 2: from the movie are indicating people who are in the

886
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 2: bottom of society and less privileged people are ready to

887
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 2: fight back, be unified in order to take back what

888
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 2: they deserve. This seems to be aligned with Bernie Sanders

889
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 2: campaign keynote not me US US as a working class,

890
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 2: the poor people in the grassroots US who have been

891
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 2: oppressed by the upper middle class, the elites, and the capitalism.

892
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 2: You must get together, like the scene hands across America

893
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 2: from the movie, and fight for what we deserve. It's

894
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 2: time for a revolution, It's time to win. Is this

895
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 2: like Bernie's campaign manager? What is this?

896
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 4: I don't know, And no, Baby, I don't think this

897
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 4: is a connection whatsoever.

898
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 2: What I don't know.

899
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 4: Was not thinking about Bernie Sanders when he wrote this movie.

900
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 2: I don't know if Jordan Pill supports Bernie Sanders.

901
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 4: I do.

902
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 2: I mean, that's pretty obvious from what you've written. So

903
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 2: maybe that's why I think too much when I see

904
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 2: the word US. Yeah, this movie was made years ago,

905
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 2: and the name of it and everything was decided before

906
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 2: Bernie Sanders's latest campaign slogan about the word US. So

907
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 2: it absolutely is completely coincidental. And I think you extrapolated

908
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 2: that from what you wanted to extrapolate from that movie.

909
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 2: But most people are doing that right, most people are.

910
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 2: Thanks for reading the email. PS. We love your podcast.

911
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,479
Speaker 2: That's my husband, Rendy. He listens to your podcast religiously. PS.

912
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 2: I'm happy. I'm glad Henry is dead and Milwaukee and

913
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 2: dead best Audrey. Yeah, I think you know. When I

914
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 2: watched the movie US, it really made me think of

915
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton because none of you niggas listened to her,

916
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 2: and look what the fuck happened? Okay, And when I

917
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 2: saw when I saw La Peter's character Adelaide, I said,

918
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 2: I'm with her, and we should have just to a

919
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 2: woman to charge and we would have survived like her

920
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 2: family did. So uh, that's what I got from it.

921
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:11,959
Speaker 2: So long live Hillary Clinton. Let's see next email rolled

922
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 2: in Anglo affirmative action. This is from Alicia says, Hey, guys,

923
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 2: I know I'm late, but I just wanted to say

924
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 2: that I graduated from a PWI with a degree in

925
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 2: accounting and finance and gave birth to my second and

926
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 2: fifth year while gave birth my second and fifth year

927
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 2: while working thirty plus hours most of the time here

928
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 2: in retail.

929
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 3: Uh.

930
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 2: And it used to irk the shit out of me

931
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 2: when I would score higher than any of my white

932
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 2: classmates on exams and they actually had the fucking nerve

933
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 2: to be surprised and ask how man I mean? I mean,

934
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be real, I would ask how, I mean?

935
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 2: You sound like you you was out here living a life,

936
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 2: you was going through it and still kicking everybody's asking.

937
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 2: I would have to ask how okay because I wouldn't

938
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 2: also probably have a grade than you and be like,

939
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 2: how are you doing this?

940
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 4: And my hoigh will be where did you find the time?

941
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 4: Not how did you do it? It's like where did

942
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 4: you put this in?

943
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 2: Did you not sleep? I'd be like, you know, it's okay.

944
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 2: If you want to get a c okay, it's okay.

945
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 2: Won't nobody be mad? Baby? If you get a couple

946
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 2: more hours of sleep with semester, and that means you

947
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 2: gotta B plus instead of a minus. I understand also

948
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 2: years later, if I'm in my corporate job subconsciously feeling

949
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 2: like I don't belong here, so I don't ask for her,

950
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 2: I don't ask for too much. Don't take off too

951
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 2: much time even though the days are there. Try not

952
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 2: to leave work early for children appointments or things at

953
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 2: their schools like Thanksgiving lunch or field day, even though

954
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 2: my boss has said more than once that he doesn't

955
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 2: care as long as my work is done. I knew

956
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 2: this was a problem, but wasn't able to fully articulate

957
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,760
Speaker 2: this to myself until your rant on the whole college

958
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 2: admission scandal. Thanks for y'all, for everything y'all do and

959
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 2: make me aware. Now I can begin to work to

960
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,439
Speaker 2: fix the inadequacies within myself, so this will no longer

961
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 2: be an issue. Y'all are changing lives in the way

962
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 2: that you can't even fathom. Thank you, Alicia, Thank you baby.

963
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 4: And I'm just thinking about everything you just said, so

964
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 4: thank you. And that's one of the things about mother

965
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 4: and motherhood, you know, just put upon women.

966
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 2: You're supposed to do everything and be everything and be

967
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 2: excellent at everything.

968
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 4: And that's a lot of pressure because I feel like this,

969
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 4: jobs come and fucking go all the time, but your

970
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 4: family would.

971
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 2: Always be there. Yeah, all right, you got it.

972
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 4: No jobs come and go all the time, but your

973
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 4: family will always be there. And use your time, take

974
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 4: your time off, don't let them sit there. Take your

975
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 4: time off, Go to the PTA meet and go to

976
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 4: the to the field trips.

977
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 2: Go go, go, go, go go, because at the end of.

978
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 4: The day, you know, as much as jobs care, jobs

979
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 4: aren't people you know and when and if your salary here,

980
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 4: whatever their budget is, they will let you go and

981
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 4: not think twice. And we're not giving a fuck about

982
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 4: you not spending time with your kids and not be

983
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 4: seeing your loved ones. Honey, that will not be on

984
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 4: the top of their agenda all day. It's Donaldson sense

985
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 4: to them. So I'm glad that you're to the point

986
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 4: to where you realize that it's a farce.

987
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 2: This work work, work, work, work, work, work, work.

988
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 4: Yourself to death because family is consistent, the jobs are not.

989
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, I would also throw out there, like

990
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 2: obviously in my first part, we talked about how we're

991
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 2: talking about like obviously, like you were doing a lot

992
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 2: and I'm still able to achieve I know what you mean.

993
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 2: Your white classmates are looking at like, how is your

994
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 2: black ass doing better than me? And you have all

995
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 2: these things going on, and I'm white and I'm smartering

996
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 2: you and I you know, we made light of it,

997
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 2: but I do understand what you meant. Right the second

998
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 2: part of it. There's a lot of us as much

999
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:05,240
Speaker 2: ourselves down, and the world is demanding that we switch

1000
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 2: ourselves down. It's telling you to shrink yourself down all

1001
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 2: the time. It's not really overt. At some point it

1002
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 2: becomes subconscious, it becomes ingrain ding you. The same way

1003
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:19,919
Speaker 2: that I talked about the idea that toxic masculinity being

1004
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 2: the thing that killed Nipsey Hustle and a lot of

1005
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 2: black men. A lot of people don't like hearing that.

1006
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 2: A lot of people bristle, They get defensive and just

1007
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 2: the notion of those two words put together. But the

1008
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 2: point is we're living it. If we won't acknowledge it,

1009
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 2: then we're just in denial about it. And so the

1010
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 2: same thing that tells me that a black life is

1011
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 2: not that valuable and killing another black person, a black

1012
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 2: human being is not a big deal. And then the

1013
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 2: further marginalize that human being is the less of their

1014
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 2: life that matters. Right, So they're gay and black, it's

1015
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 2: even less of a matter to me. If they're trans

1016
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 2: in black, it's even less to Me's if their child

1017
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 2: and they're black, it's less to me. If they're a

1018
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 2: woman and they're black, it's less than me. And that

1019
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 2: is not some shit we came up with on our own,

1020
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 2: Like you don't just wake up one day and go,

1021
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:13,240
Speaker 2: I don't care about anyone's life, including my own. Society

1022
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 2: tells your life ain't worth shit. The schools you go

1023
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 2: to will be less, lea less funded, the equipment and

1024
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 2: the buses you get on and all that stuff less.

1025
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 2: The education you get will be less. The clothing, the

1026
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 2: places you live in the town, the type of transportation,

1027
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 2: everything about you will be told less. You are less, less,

1028
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 2: less than what else is out there in this world.

1029
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 2: You are less than whiteness. Your family is less than

1030
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 2: white families, and white people believe the shit about us

1031
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 2: as well, right, you know, So we live in a

1032
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 2: world where we're constantly told we're less, and then we

1033
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 2: want to say it has no effect on us, but

1034
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 2: it does. It affects our lives every day. But it

1035
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 2: also affects our brains. It starts to get inside of

1036
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 2: us and we start to think that shit and that's

1037
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 2: just that's about you know, blackness and death and all

1038
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 2: the stuff. Well, that's also true of the mentality we

1039
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 2: have at our jobs. How many people are like I

1040
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 2: would ask for a raise, but I'm a woman. You know,

1041
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 2: I'm doing this extra work. I should get a bit

1042
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,879
Speaker 2: higher position. I'm definitely due for a promotion, but I'm

1043
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 2: a black person, and I'm scared that. You know, I'm

1044
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 2: gonna ask for what I deserve and they gonna think

1045
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 2: I'm ungrateful, or I'm not a good employee, or they're

1046
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 2: gonna point out all my flaws. Meanwhile, you probably watch

1047
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 2: your white coworkers come in and do shit all the

1048
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 2: time and go, wow, I can't believe they had the

1049
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 2: audacity to do that. They just didn't grow up like us.

1050
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 2: They didn't get they didn't grow up and have their

1051
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 2: parents tell them, don't dream, just get a good job.

1052
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 2: That's that's the dream. That's the dream, is the job.

1053
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 2: Don't try to be an artist, be get you know,

1054
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 2: get you a degree and then get you a steady

1055
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 2: government job or something like that, and that means you

1056
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 2: made it. Even our dreams are the floor for a

1057
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 2: lot of people, come on, you know. And so yeah,

1058
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 2: you walk into these offices and you already doing yourself

1059
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 2: to disservice because you don't have to be told no

1060
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 2: when you told yourself no, so you don't have to

1061
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 2: walk in that office. In here, you're not getting a

1062
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 2: raise because you never will walk in that office to

1063
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 2: ask for a raise, you know. And I say this

1064
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 2: out of personal experience. I don't say this shit because

1065
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 2: I didn't live it, you know, I'm saying this shit

1066
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:30,240
Speaker 2: because you know, of being in there in a cubicle,

1067
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 2: going this is not enough money. I don't know how

1068
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 2: the fuck I'm supposed to get bound this. But at

1069
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 2: the same time, I'm just happy to have a job,

1070
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 2: you know. I'm just I'm fortunate to even be working.

1071
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 2: I know so many black men that are you know, uh,

1072
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 2: you know, supposed to be a statistic at this age.

1073
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 2: You know, I'm supposed to be dead in jail HIV positive.

1074
00:55:56,320 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 2: You know, like like there's a bunch of demarcations totistically

1075
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,399
Speaker 2: that they's like, this is what black life goes through,

1076
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 2: and this is what black life is supposed to be.

1077
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,479
Speaker 2: And so all that to say, like we get told

1078
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 2: no subconsciously so much we start telling ourselves no as well.

1079
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 2: And I'm so glad and I'm proud of you and

1080
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 2: anyone listening to my voice you could do it too.

1081
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 2: I'm proud of y'all for stepping up and doing something.

1082
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 2: It seems so small, it's it's not revolutionary. But you

1083
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 2: gotta understand, this shit is killing you. To never take

1084
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 2: a vacation on the day that you earn and work

1085
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 2: yourself to death is killing you mentally inside, emotionally inside

1086
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 2: all this shit. You know, I hope people can get

1087
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 2: fed and be happy other places or whatever. Like, whatever

1088
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 2: steps you can take, whether it's start to look for

1089
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 2: that job that's gonna help you know, that's gonna be

1090
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 2: a put you in a better position. Sometimes just changing

1091
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 2: the job, even for the honeymoon period of the year

1092
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 2: or two that you're there and you're like everyone likes

1093
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 2: me and I like everyone, even that sometimes is the

1094
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 2: relief you need. You know, not to mention you might

1095
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 2: get into a bigger salary all that stuff, but Yeah,

1096
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,760
Speaker 2: all that to say, like, if you taking those steps,

1097
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 2: I'm proud of you. If you just if it's just

1098
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 2: submitted some vacation and you ain't gonna do shit but

1099
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 2: sit around your house for a week and fuck them.

1100
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 2: I'm just not coming into work. I need some time

1101
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 2: for me. I'm just go see movies and play video

1102
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 2: games fucking sleep all day. Yeah, even if it's that,

1103
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 2: that's fine. You don't need a grand plan. You just

1104
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 2: need to start standing up for yourself. You know, when

1105
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 2: you when you look at that fucking you know, your

1106
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 2: take home salary and what the industry standards are, and

1107
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 2: you go, I'm not close to this. What the fuck

1108
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 2: is the problem? Walk in that office and talk to them,

1109
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 2: you know, have I like to talk to y'all. They

1110
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 2: love talking to your ass. They love putting a meeting

1111
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 2: on the schedule that you don't want to see all

1112
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 2: the time. So I don't know, man, I feel like,

1113
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 2: you know, it's good to see people step into the

1114
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 2: fullness of being like that. And Alicia, I wish you luck.

1115
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 2: And you know, because you never gonna like carry say,

1116
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 2: you never getting those like pta meetings back, But there'll

1117
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 2: be another meeting at the job, there'll be another job,

1118
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 2: but you only got one family.

1119
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, and your children get older too, and it might not.

1120
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 4: And the thing is, it means something to you, but

1121
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 4: it means people. It means more to the children that

1122
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 4: parents aren't there than parents realize, you know, because your

1123
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 4: priorities are different. For parents is like, I want to

1124
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 4: be sure you're fed. I want to be sure you're

1125
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 4: taking care of roof of your head and you're taking

1126
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 4: care of which is great. But for children, children are like, hey,

1127
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 4: I'm at this thing Parents' day. You know, Mama, you

1128
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 4: wouldn't there.

1129
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 2: I got to work.

1130
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 4: They understand that, but they were rather you to take

1131
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 4: that time.

1132
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 2: Off, right how especially if you have a job where

1133
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 2: they actually because this is why I say limiting yourself.

1134
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 2: It sounds like you have a job where they would

1135
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 2: support you doing this, and you won't let yourself do

1136
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 2: it correct, you know, And that's what it really means

1137
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 2: when those white people look at you and say, how

1138
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 2: are you doing this? That's how you are doing it.

1139
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 2: You never will allow on yourself anything, you know what

1140
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Everything like even when the birth of your

1141
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 2: kids is still kind of for them, right, Like even

1142
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 2: having those kids and taking care of them is kind

1143
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 2: of something something you're doing to pro like it's for you,

1144
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 2: but it's also for those kids. That's a lifelong obligation

1145
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 2: you just created for yourself. So when are you doing

1146
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 2: things for yourself? You know, getting educated is a gift

1147
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 2: for yourself later in the future, but it's also working

1148
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 2: and an obligation. Like, when were you doing things for yourself?

1149
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 2: You weren't and so hopefully you can do that now.

1150
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's a process to change your mind like

1151
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 4: like like like the the re configuration of your mind

1152
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 4: is very hard, particularly brown people and modulize people.

1153
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 2: You know that you have to work twice as good

1154
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 2: to get half as far.

1155
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 4: A lot of us have ate that hook line of

1156
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 4: sinker and really work ourselves to death based off based

1157
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 4: off of that statement.

1158
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 2: And you just feel there's there's a mental like guilt

1159
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 2: a lot of people feel when they don't Like when

1160
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 2: I'm sick, I know I'm sick, and I shouldn't go

1161
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 2: to work. Get everybody else sick. I don't feel good,

1162
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be on my best, but I should

1163
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 2: go to work. I should just go to work. Americans are, like,

1164
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 2: are the hardest working people. But I and I know

1165
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 2: it sound funny because everybody is fat, lazy Americans, But

1166
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 2: technically we are like the hardest working, most overworked country

1167
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 2: of the developed nations, which is a load of term,

1168
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 2: but of a lot of these first world nations, developed nations.

1169
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 2: How you define that? Fucking bullshit? Because we actually don't

1170
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 2: take vacation, We actually do have forty hour work weeks.

1171
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 2: Much of our healthcare is applied to our employment. Like

1172
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,439
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff that that you know allows people

1173
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 2: to even live is about work because of capitalism and whatnot,

1174
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 2: And so you have to deal with that kind of shit.

1175
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 2: And now we've turned ourselves into this country where a

1176
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 2: lot of the rhetoric around how people should be treated

1177
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 2: is about their value when it comes to money and work. Right,

1178
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 2: So now you have people that when they're poor, what

1179
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 2: do we say they deserve to be poor because they're lazy.

1180
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 2: So now you're like, am I lazy?

1181
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 4: Right? When you have a whole subsection of the working poor?

1182
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 2: Right, I'm working two jobs and I can't get by.

1183
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:15,919
Speaker 2: I must just be too lazy, right, working two jobs?

1184
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 2: Sometimes people three jobs, right, So I must just be

1185
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 2: too lazy. And for those of you that are fortunate

1186
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 2: enough to have jobs that can meet your knees. You

1187
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 2: look at it as fortune. You don't look at something

1188
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 2: you earned. You go, I'm just lucky to have this job.

1189
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 2: I definitely don't need to take no vacation. I definitely

1190
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 2: need to come in when I'm sick. I definitely don't

1191
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 2: need to go see my kids basketball game. I definitely

1192
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 2: can't ask to get off early. You know, and I've

1193
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 2: worked for those asshole bosses that make you feel bad

1194
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 2: for that shit. You know, Hey, can I come in

1195
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 2: early on Thursday and leave a little early on leave

1196
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 2: a little early so that I can go see my

1197
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 2: kids basketball game? I mean, I guess what we can do.

1198
01:01:56,080 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 2: It's not affecting any fucking thing for you. Why, just

1199
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 2: because you have a little bit of power you turn

1200
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 2: into a fucking asshole. You know what you're supposed to say,

1201
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 2: no problem, if your work is done, I don't mind

1202
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 2: f you know, like that's all it should be. But

1203
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 2: instead we end up dealing with bullshit and now it's

1204
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 2: in your head. All right. We got two more emails.

1205
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 2: Trey says, Happy birthday, Careen, thank you, thank you for

1206
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 2: being the all around awesome person. You are, and thank

1207
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 2: you for helping me be a better black man in

1208
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 2: the world through listening to you and Rod's opinions on

1209
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 2: your great podcast. And also more importantly, thank you for

1210
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 2: the last They really are helping me stay sane in

1211
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:35,959
Speaker 2: this decade of the Trump administration. We are in Come on. Also, Karen,

1212
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 2: thank you for saying your triggonometry ass on Monday's Afternoons episode.

1213
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 2: I was driving home from work at bust out Lavin

1214
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 2: so hard still laugh and think about it. Mah ha.

1215
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 2: Thanks again and having have birthday careen Trace. And lastly,

1216
01:02:54,360 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 2: this is from Shanna who says Nipsey Hustle, Hikaring and Rod,

1217
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 2: something I really appreciate, really appreciate about both of you

1218
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 2: and the podcast are these moments where there's just a

1219
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 2: genuine honesty and vulnerability. I found Rod's commentary about Nipsey

1220
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 2: Hustle to be one of those moments. I have also

1221
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 2: been really troubled about this whole situation, in part because

1222
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 2: I think the conspiracy theories and reactions to it means

1223
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 2: that we aren't really grieving as a community. I think

1224
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 2: sometimes we rather do anything but that, so I appreciate

1225
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 2: being able to share a moment with y'all virtually just

1226
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 2: to be sad for him in his community and us.

1227
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 2: I don't. I did want to add something I think

1228
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 2: folks miss when they're talking about homophobia. I believe in

1229
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 2: black people. My emotional well being depends on it. So

1230
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 2: as a queer person, when I hear someone like Nipsey,

1231
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 2: who believes in black folks with the same passion that

1232
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 2: I do, suggests that people like me are somehow standing

1233
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 2: in the way of black freedom, it hurts. I live

1234
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 2: in a community, Newarton, New Jersey, and I work hard

1235
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 2: to make sure that the impact that I have on

1236
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 2: my community is a positive one. Every privilege that I'm

1237
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 2: giving is one that I try to share as much

1238
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 2: as possible. And then when folks say that queerness is

1239
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 2: somehow holding us back, I feel like they're saying the

1240
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 2: freedom that I do my small part to help us

1241
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 2: work towards is it something I deserve? Absolutely? Like that,

1242
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 2: Like that's the catch twenty two of all. Like I've

1243
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 2: seen people like dismiss his homophobic comments on some like

1244
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 2: it's not even homophobia, or he explained that, or you know,

1245
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 2: stop bringing up all this shit. He's dead, And I'm

1246
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 2: like no, you know, and I felt the same way

1247
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 2: when it was Erica Garner, Sandra Bland. What you do matters,

1248
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 2: you know, and what you say matters, And if anything,

1249
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 2: take that lesson away because you're still alive. If you

1250
01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 2: can hear this and get upset about hearing it, you're

1251
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 2: still alive, so you can change. Look at the impact

1252
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 2: his words have on a community, community that gets split

1253
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 2: in his death, not on some hater shit, but it

1254
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 2: just got split because it's like he didn't love me.

1255
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 2: You know, he loved a certain type of blackness, but

1256
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 2: he could not find it in him to truly love

1257
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 2: all of us, to truly respect all of us. You know,

1258
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 2: the same thing's gonna happen when fair Coon Dods. By

1259
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 2: the way, mm hmm. It's not just like a lot

1260
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 2: of people like to pick that white people coming in

1261
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 2: at him, but it's a lot of black people that

1262
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 2: have felt ostracized by him. Yes, you know, it's not

1263
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 2: to say that his work in the community doesn't matter,

1264
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 2: but it's to say that people who are critical of

1265
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 2: that work will have their day to talk when he passes,

1266
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 2: and a lot of people are gonna go not now,

1267
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 2: it's not the time when the fuck is at the time, right, And.

1268
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 4: When people say that that kills me because you don't

1269
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 4: want me to talk about it before, you don't want

1270
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 4: me to talk about during. Then afterwards you're gonna be like,

1271
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 4: the shit don't matter with Then when do we talk

1272
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 4: about like gun debates. Everybody somebody gets shot, people come up,

1273
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 4: you know, start talking about gun debates and bringing up

1274
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 4: you know, their views and shit like that, and people

1275
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 4: want to shut shit down and let people moan, Okay,

1276
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 4: you did, won't talk about it before the kids got shot.

1277
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 4: Now the kid is shot. I won't talk about it now,

1278
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 4: you women shut down?

1279
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 2: So let it on. When when it's quote unquote old news.

1280
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 4: And nobody's giving a fuck about it anymore, you're not

1281
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 4: gonna care about my opinion, right, And so.

1282
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 2: Just to go back to what he said, because it

1283
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 2: matters here. And I know we're talking as if everybody's

1284
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 2: already seen and heard this shit because we talked about

1285
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 2: it before. But yeah, he had a picture of him

1286
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 2: and a bunch of young black men in suits, little

1287
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 2: black boys, and it was for I think it was

1288
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:50,960
Speaker 2: for like what was it for some some sort of

1289
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 2: organization that he was supporting, and it's cashing underneath it said,

1290
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 2: demonstration speaks louder than conversation. They gonna feed us every

1291
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 2: image of our men and boys, but this one no

1292
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 2: hyper violent, no homosexual, no abandoners, just strong black men

1293
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 2: and young men. Respect to my big homie at Big

1294
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 2: Gui for leading with love and intelligence. God is with us.

1295
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 2: Who can go against us? And the thing is one,

1296
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 2: you don't know that any of those kids aren't gay,

1297
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 2: so I don't even know how you can be like,

1298
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 2: no homosexual. And two, you just equated gay homosexuality with

1299
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 2: abandoning the community and being hyper violent, Like you just

1300
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 2: put that in the middle of those two things because

1301
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 2: you consider that to be negative. There's no way that

1302
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 2: you don't consider that negative. So going on the breakfast

1303
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 2: club later and being like, you know, I got gay friends,

1304
01:07:57,520 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 2: and I don't mean it that way. You mean, it's

1305
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 2: just no other way to me. Now within the community

1306
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 2: and with every community. It's not just a black community,

1307
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 2: but we're talking about black people right now. Within the community,

1308
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 2: gay people have had to get used to this shit, right,

1309
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 2: you know, they've just gotten used to it. It's not

1310
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 2: that it's okay, it's just this is just another slight

1311
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:21,679
Speaker 2: that you have to fucking endure every day, where it's like, Okay,

1312
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 2: Nipsey Hustle is now one of those guys on the

1313
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:27,560
Speaker 2: list that doesn't really fuck with me, you know, that

1314
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 2: think something's wrong with me for being gay. That has

1315
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 2: a problem with me essentially for the way that my

1316
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 2: life is, the way that I the way that I

1317
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 2: was set up from get go. He has a problem

1318
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 2: with that, you know. And this is in you trying

1319
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 2: to say that this is what black people need to see,

1320
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,680
Speaker 2: they need to see no gay people. They don't need

1321
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:56,720
Speaker 2: to see gay black men, why, you know. And so

1322
01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 2: those comments become the focal point of these discussion sometimes

1323
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 2: because this may be the last time we really even

1324
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 2: get to talk about it, you know. And then often

1325
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:10,760
Speaker 2: people project project this like it's the wrong time. But

1326
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 2: it's like, you didn't want to listen when he was alive.

1327
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 2: Now you're going fine eulogizing this guy. You don't want

1328
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:19,640
Speaker 2: to be part of his narrative when he dies. And

1329
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 2: then after he's dead, y'all gonna be like, why are

1330
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 2: you talking about a dead man? It's just nothing. Once

1331
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:25,600
Speaker 2: he's buried, y'all say, why are you talking about damn it,

1332
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 2: there's never gonna be a time. So now that's why

1333
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 2: we have to talk about these things. I don't care

1334
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:33,719
Speaker 2: if it makes people uncomfortable, We'll have an uncomfortable show.

1335
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:37,719
Speaker 2: I'm not afraid of being uncomfortable to talk about the truth,

1336
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:40,639
Speaker 2: because when ant Nynska Leah died, I damnse I ain't

1337
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 2: had nobody right in talking about something. It's not the

1338
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 2: time when you have your faves and the people you like.

1339
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 2: All of a sudden it changes the rules. And again,

1340
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 2: I'm sorry that that that kind of shit makes you

1341
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 2: feel that way. I'm sorry that that me as a

1342
01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 2: straight black man, I have not I may not truck

1343
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 2: any sentiments. I may not agree with his sentiments, but

1344
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 2: I know that there's a huge contingent of just straight

1345
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 2: black men that really do feel this way. They have

1346
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 2: hang ups about homosexuality and weakness and what it is

1347
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:17,680
Speaker 2: to be a man, and consistently spew that shit out

1348
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 2: as if it's just some normal shit to say. And

1349
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 2: it does injure our brothers and sisters and non binary

1350
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:27,599
Speaker 2: folks around us all the time, you know, and many

1351
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:29,639
Speaker 2: times it's like you can't say shit to us because

1352
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 2: we're gonna take it as a offense to us.

1353
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 4: You know.

1354
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 2: I know black men that lock up when they hear

1355
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:40,599
Speaker 2: like any critique of black straight maleness. They just lock up, like, well,

1356
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:42,600
Speaker 2: why you gotta be coming? They mean like that, like

1357
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:45,680
Speaker 2: they can't take anything, you know. I don't know if

1358
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 2: it's because we were considered to be like the baby

1359
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 2: most protected people when we were kids, and we decided

1360
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:55,760
Speaker 2: the black man needs to be the most protected one

1361
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 2: in our community. I don't know if it's just the

1362
01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 2: oppression Olympics and we've been under attack so many years

1363
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:05,639
Speaker 2: from the exception and therefore in denial of our own

1364
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 2: privileges within our community. I don't know. I don't know

1365
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 2: what the exact phrasing and words would be for it,

1366
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 2: but I just know that it's not good. It's and

1367
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:19,680
Speaker 2: it's really it's hindering everybody that we don't want to

1368
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 2: get our shit together philosophically. I'm not even talking about

1369
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 2: something like because black men ain't shit. You never see

1370
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 2: me get on here and be like they don't have

1371
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:30,599
Speaker 2: no jobs, they ain't take care of their kids, don't.

1372
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 2: I'm not talking of Republican shit. I'm just saying as

1373
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 2: a community and maybe it's some hippie shit emotionally, but

1374
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:38,600
Speaker 2: as a fucking community, like, we can be better and

1375
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 2: more complete human beings and it'll help everyone around us.

1376
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 2: Everybody benefits from this, Everyone will benefit from us letting

1377
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 2: some of this shit go. We don't it never served us,

1378
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 2: and it or if it did serve us, we've also

1379
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:54,599
Speaker 2: been injured by it, and it won't and it will

1380
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 2: not continue to serve us. All Right. I'm not one

1381
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 2: who subscribes to cancel culture in the way that other

1382
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 2: LGBTQ people do, although I get it sometimes, but damn

1383
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 2: many core people of color works are hard to contribute

1384
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 2: to this global movement for black liberation. I just wish

1385
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 2: people understood how much it hurts to be told that

1386
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 2: you don't belong and that your work doesn't matter. And listen,

1387
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:16,559
Speaker 2: I've seen people shit on the entire Black Lives Matter

1388
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:20,840
Speaker 2: movement because once they found out the organization of Black

1389
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 2: Lives Matter was headed by three black queer women, and

1390
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 2: once they found out like deray Mondckesson, who's not part

1391
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:28,719
Speaker 2: of that organization but still consider part of that movement,

1392
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:31,640
Speaker 2: once they found out he was gay, they were like, like,

1393
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 2: it's just it's just ridiculous the shit you see people say,

1394
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 2: and it's very common. I have a circle of people

1395
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:41,640
Speaker 2: around me for the most part, and I've curated my

1396
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:44,759
Speaker 2: life enough to where I don't really have to engage

1397
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 2: these type of people. I don't really see these people.

1398
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:48,600
Speaker 2: I don't even kick it where they kick it. But

1399
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 2: in general, though, it's a very common sentiment to be

1400
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 2: like it's some type of gay conspiracy. When it first

1401
01:12:57,360 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 2: started with the Justice Small relationship, how many people were like, Uh,

1402
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 2: he just need to decide if he gonna be gay

1403
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 2: or black dog. You are operating at the time that

1404
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 2: you thought someone hate crimed him and called him racist

1405
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 2: slurs and homophobic slurs, and you decided that he needed

1406
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:19,560
Speaker 2: to pick one. Like that is so fucking crazy to me,

1407
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 2: But it's not uncommon. You're absolutely right. You know, I

1408
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 2: would not fuck with these people, But you know, what

1409
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 2: do you do when that's your community and they claiming

1410
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:31,639
Speaker 2: to do it under the guys of Black Unity as well,

1411
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 2: all them hotel dudes with thousands of followers on YouTube

1412
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 2: and shit, they speak this homophobic, anti woman, anti queer shit,

1413
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 2: and then they're like, but I'm doing it under the

1414
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:45,559
Speaker 2: guys of Black Unity. And black liberation and black power.

1415
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 1: Right.

1416
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:49,560
Speaker 2: They do it all the time. You know, many of

1417
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 2: our religious leaders in the black community homophobic, misogynistic as fuck,

1418
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 2: and they say it's out of unity for black people,

1419
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:02,679
Speaker 2: unity in which the rest of you none straight, non

1420
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 2: male motherfuckers shut the fuck up, sit the fuck down,

1421
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 2: and let me do my thing. That's it. So yeah,

1422
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 2: I definitely understand how that can hurt anyway, just wanted

1423
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 2: to say that I firm the way you both model

1424
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 2: a genuine and honest approach to the things that are

1425
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:19,360
Speaker 2: really hard to make sense of and cope with. It

1426
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:21,640
Speaker 2: creates an amazing space for those of us who want

1427
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 2: to do the same. Best Shanna, thank you, thank you.

1428
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1429
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:27,679
Speaker 2: And that's the thing, man, I can only be honest,

1430
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 2: I think, or at least that's my attempt every time

1431
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 2: we get on here. I don't want to do a

1432
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:36,760
Speaker 2: show that's just pandering and telling people some shit I

1433
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 2: don't really believe, so that I can, you know, get

1434
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 2: get props or whatever. And then also at the same time,

1435
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:48,600
Speaker 2: maybe it's delibra in me, but I don't always know.

1436
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 2: I don't have a hot one way to feel, a

1437
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 2: one way not to feel everything. I said today about

1438
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 2: NIFC I felt Tuesday when we talked about it and everything,

1439
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 2: and and and and even with that, I still feel

1440
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 2: like a sadness for the community and the loss of

1441
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 2: they experience, and for the fact that this dude, while

1442
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 2: not not perfect in every way, which no one is obviously,

1443
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 2: but he like he had some aspirational type of ship

1444
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:24,640
Speaker 2: to him where maybe maybe he has the potential to

1445
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 2: see something more than that, maybe just so maybe, but

1446
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 2: we'll never know, mm hmm. Now we'll never know, you know,

1447
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 2: because somebody couldn't take being called a snitch and had

1448
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 2: to kill him in order to prove something, to throw

1449
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 2: your life away in his to prove what what was

1450
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:47,720
Speaker 2: proven by that? All right, that's it for today's episode.

1451
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 2: We'll be back later on in the week. Thank you

1452
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 2: so much for listening. And I know Wednesday will be

1453
01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 2: doing the show early, so it'll be a noon start time, yes,

1454
01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 2: And I think Vice uh from HBO Vice will be

1455
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 2: in here and they'll be talking about Game of Thrones

1456
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 2: and interviewing us and stuff. Once again, just like the

1457
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 2: last time, don't know if this shit'll be on TV,

1458
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 2: don't just don't even know if it will actually matter y'all.

1459
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 2: We'll see when we get it here Wednesday. But if

1460
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 2: you guys want to want to want to spend your

1461
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 2: lunch time with us on Wednesday seeing what seeing a

1462
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 2: live show filmed by Vice, there you go. And oh

1463
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:33,600
Speaker 2: and I did want to mention one more thing. The

1464
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 2: dem thrones hashtag got talked about in Essence magazine, the

1465
01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 2: actual paper magazine, and it said them thrones is over with.

1466
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 2: It's been replaced by thrones, y'all. I'm still using them

1467
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 2: thrones when I'm live tweeting the show, and we're still

1468
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 2: using them thrones we talk about on the Blackout TEP.

1469
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 2: I'm not telling people what to do with they ship,

1470
01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:59,600
Speaker 2: but uh, it's still them thrones over here. So I

1471
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 2: when I looked after the whole tobacco, I saw that

1472
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 2: them throws and throngs, y'all, neither one of them was

1473
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 2: really trending at number one like it used to be

1474
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 2: on Sunday Night. So you know, I don't know if

1475
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 2: those days are ever coming back, but yeah, I'm still

1476
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 2: sticking with them throws. So you know, good luck to

1477
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 2: all of y'all out there, And I hope I can't

1478
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:26,639
Speaker 2: wait to see next Sunday when the Throns is back, y'all.

1479
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 2: I'm so I can't wait. All right, y'all, until next time,

1480
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 2: I love you,