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Speaker 1: we have plenty of news to get to. We've only
Speaker 1: got forty five minutes of the show and we're gonna
Speaker 1: need every single one of them to hit what happened
Speaker 1: last night and the reaction or counter reaction to what
Speaker 1: happened as the Dallas Cowboys release Jalen Smith linebacker, Pro bowler,
Speaker 1: either fan favorite or fan not so favorite, depending on
Speaker 1: who you talk to. I mean it goes both ways.
Speaker 1: Jaylen Smith no longer a Dallas Cowboy. Rob Phillips, how
Speaker 1: did this thing go down? I actually thought this was
Speaker 1: going to happen in the offseason. I thought we'd be
Speaker 1: having this conversation in like I don't March February, March.
Speaker 1: I think this decision was complex, just like his time here.
Speaker 1: You know, you look at his entire career here and
Speaker 1: you can't lose side of what a great comeback story
Speaker 1: it was for him in twenty sixteen. I know he
Speaker 1: has his detractors, lots of them from the fan base
Speaker 1: and the media as well, but you can't lose sight
Speaker 1: of that. It's a complex story, the way he emerged
Speaker 1: as a starter and then by the end of it
Speaker 1: was only playing about half the snaps. The reason why
Speaker 1: they cut him, decided to release him, is partly about performance,
Speaker 1: and it's partly about money. You know, he was playing
Speaker 1: fifty six percent of the snaps the first four games
Speaker 1: of the season, and on top of that, they're willing
Speaker 1: to eat what seven million whatever it is for the
Speaker 1: rest of this season because you know, partly because there's
Speaker 1: that injury guarantee, and you remember he had, I think,
Speaker 1: risk surgery in the offseason if he were to have
Speaker 1: a major injury. He camp as physical next year. That's
Speaker 1: like nine million guaranteed next year. So his agent's amazing.
Speaker 1: They had a decision to weigh when you're playing, you know,
Speaker 1: the player that's playing that little snaps. I mean, it
Speaker 1: was it's a complex decision, and I really thought I
Speaker 1: didn't think he'd back next year, but I thought he'd
Speaker 1: play out this season. Didn't happen four games in, No,
Speaker 1: it did not. Jalen Smith had five years fifty point
Speaker 1: one million, or excuse me, fifty point seven million dollars
Speaker 1: left on his contract. His relief leaves behind sixteen point
Speaker 1: six million dollars of dead cap to the Cowboys. Nine
Speaker 1: point eight of that is going in twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: and that's also seven point two million dollars cash, and
Speaker 1: then twenty twenty two six point eight million dollars. So
Speaker 1: not only is it close to ten mill this year,
Speaker 1: it's close to seven mill next year of dead cap. Jesus,
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what Jalen Smith has coming his direction,
Speaker 1: which makes it, at least from an outsiders standpoint, look
Speaker 1: like something led to this decision. I mean the complex
Speaker 1: nature of it means that nothing is straightforward, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think overriding, it's it's the last you know, there's
Speaker 1: a drop in performance if from his twenty nineteen Pro Bowl.
Speaker 1: If there wasn't, we wouldn't be having this conversation. And
Speaker 1: Micah Parsons might not be here and I don't Neil
Speaker 1: might not be here. And I think, you know, he
Speaker 1: ran into a situation where he's not playing as much,
Speaker 1: and you know, they decide. I guess they felt comfortable
Speaker 1: enough with the depth going forward that they could make
Speaker 1: this decision, even if it meant eating some salary like
Speaker 1: you just mentioned, Kyle, a lot of salary here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what do you think it? No, you know what I'm
Speaker 1: wanting to hear from from Isaiah and missus stand back
Speaker 1: in Seattle. I said to him before, I said, before
Speaker 1: you even open your mouth, make sure you don't get
Speaker 1: that call from Seattle from your mama telling you to hey,
Speaker 1: watch yourself, it's happen so well, Mama standing back already, Daddy, Well, um,
Speaker 1: so a lot to talk about you guys. Yes, I'm
Speaker 1: not talking giants today. We're not talking a lot to
Speaker 1: happen here, Um, Jayleen Smith, First of all, I want
Speaker 1: to thank him for his time here, his contributions, because
Speaker 1: there's a lot of work that goes into being a player,
Speaker 1: and he made a lot of commitments to this team.
Speaker 1: He busted his about to get back. The organization obviously
Speaker 1: committed to him coming off that injury, and I feel
Speaker 1: like he gave it his all. I do feel like
Speaker 1: he gave it his Allum, Sometimes given it your all
Speaker 1: isn't enough, and that's the unfortunate thing about pro sports.
Speaker 1: And he found himself in a situation like Robie just said,
Speaker 1: where competition kind kind of came upon him right a little.
Speaker 1: Last year there was a heck of a year unfortunate
Speaker 1: in a bad way, and because of that, the team
Speaker 1: had to make alterations. The team brought in a new
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, team brought in some more depth, They brought
Speaker 1: in some veterans, they brought in some young guys, and
Speaker 1: they wanted to create this culture of competition, which we
Speaker 1: hit on yesterday. When you don't rise to that level
Speaker 1: of competition, then things happen in this league regardless of
Speaker 1: what I and I mentioned this as soon as Queen
Speaker 1: came on I told you guys from my time with Quinn,
Speaker 1: he doesn't give a dog on how much money you make.
Speaker 1: He don't care. You don't, You don't. There's no pecking
Speaker 1: order simply because of what your salary says that you make.
Speaker 1: You don't just you don't receive things simply because at
Speaker 1: playing time you have to earn it. And I think
Speaker 1: the Cowboys were still committed to him even up until
Speaker 1: I don't remember what the date was up until contract
Speaker 1: was guaranteed. There was March twenty first, Right March twenty first,
Speaker 1: they had a decision to make do we keep him
Speaker 1: on a roster or do we let him go, trade
Speaker 1: him whatever without any consequences. Well, they still at that
Speaker 1: March twenty first, obviously they felt good about him. And
Speaker 1: that's why it's surprising, you know, even even with the
Speaker 1: moves afterwards, with Parsons and all that. For sure, so
Speaker 1: at that date they obviously felt like he can make
Speaker 1: a contribution to this team, right enough. Seven however much
Speaker 1: money he was going to make this year right now
Speaker 1: at this point at seven point two, right but whatever
Speaker 1: it was for the for those four games including that,
Speaker 1: I don't know what the total is, Yeah, but they
Speaker 1: felt good enough about him to have him on a roster,
Speaker 1: and then something happened. Something happened. New guys showed up. Right,
Speaker 1: new decordinator who makes decisions shows up and said. Maybe
Speaker 1: he was like, that's not he's not a good fit
Speaker 1: for us. Maybe he's not making enough enough good plays.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's not making the right decisions. Maybe guys don't
Speaker 1: respect him. Maybe he's not just competing with these young
Speaker 1: guys and he's not receiving that will he doesn't. Some
Speaker 1: guys are used to being in the limelight, and when
Speaker 1: new guys show up and compete, they kind of backed down,
Speaker 1: or they feel as if they should be given something right,
Speaker 1: like they're entitled to something when they have to really
Speaker 1: earn their spot. I don't know. Maybe he said that
Speaker 1: one of the coaches moms had an Audie belly building.
Speaker 1: I really don't know, right, but something happened, something, something happened. Heck,
Speaker 1: what you just saying? What did you just say to
Speaker 1: that point to give somebody seven point two million dollars
Speaker 1: to go home, take your ball and go home, et
Speaker 1: phone home seven How often have you seen that? You
Speaker 1: don't see it a lot? Two million dollars I can
Speaker 1: eat that. Ye two point five three's a lot of money,
Speaker 1: all right, But we can eat that if it's not going,
Speaker 1: if he's not a good fit for this team, and
Speaker 1: he's not you know, you know, conducive to our environment.
Speaker 1: Seven million dollars we could have got two kJ rights
Speaker 1: for that m. That's a lot of money. And even
Speaker 1: with a surprise mid season release, it doesn't always happen
Speaker 1: to where they're just handing out cash. Look at Stefan Gilmore,
Speaker 1: which yes, we will talk about later. The Patriots released
Speaker 1: him yesterday as well, or will release him today. I
Speaker 1: guess I should say so. But there's no money guaranteed
Speaker 1: on that deal at all. I mean, there was a
Speaker 1: money esque move that needed to be made there from
Speaker 1: the Patriots standpoint here. That's that's what's confusing. Is is
Speaker 1: it just the sole factor of Hey, down the line,
Speaker 1: it could be more money. Let's try and nip this
Speaker 1: before it really gets any bigger. You know, I think
Speaker 1: when you look at Jalen Smith's career, and that's that's
Speaker 1: something that's going to take care of itself. The numbers,
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl, all of those things, you know, and
Speaker 1: the appreciation from the fans and what he'd done, and
Speaker 1: the negative stuff is going to be there as well.
Speaker 1: But you know, when you talk about the March deadline,
Speaker 1: I think at that point the Cowboys didn't know they
Speaker 1: were in limbo and they had to sign that at
Speaker 1: least to have the depth of what they had. Now
Speaker 1: people will say that this is a Micah move, but
Speaker 1: to me, I think it's a Ken O'Neill move. And
Speaker 1: the reason being is Neil has shown you that I
Speaker 1: can't take that off of the field, just even running
Speaker 1: passing all of those things, because then I'm tipping my
Speaker 1: hand on what my coverages are and what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: And for dan Quinn that wasn't gonna work. You saw
Speaker 1: them try certain things at the beginning of the game
Speaker 1: against Carolina and you saw our linebackers completely get blown
Speaker 1: out of the way. You can't do that with a
Speaker 1: guy that can't read and react because his physical limitations,
Speaker 1: because of his figures, physical limitations. I've never seen a
Speaker 1: guy to be sent home with seven million dollars excuse me,
Speaker 1: seven point two and on top of all of that,
Speaker 1: just the money that I want to go into what
Speaker 1: he paid to were number nine, All of that stuff.
Speaker 1: But this guy has literally tried many times in his
Speaker 1: career to reinvent renew his career because of all of
Speaker 1: the devastating things that happened to him coming into the league.
Speaker 1: But the truth of the matter is, you have guys
Speaker 1: now on your team that you that is no longer
Speaker 1: it's an excuse to keep them on the bench. You
Speaker 1: gotta find out what Jabril Cox has because he's showing
Speaker 1: you something in practice, So you gotta the guy has
Speaker 1: to be inserted, and you cannot take number forty two
Speaker 1: out just to keep number nine on the field, and
Speaker 1: those things, I think dan Quinn and I have to,
Speaker 1: you know, applaud him for making that decision because he
Speaker 1: did what was best for the team and the youth
Speaker 1: movement that they have and where they're going with these
Speaker 1: new guys. You know, you just gotta applaud the organization
Speaker 1: for doing him. It's the timing that's the weird part.
Speaker 1: But I completely agree with you all the way through. Again,
Speaker 1: I though I think it's they look at how much
Speaker 1: he's playing, and there is that you know the reports,
Speaker 1: and I think they're accurate. There is that injury guarantee
Speaker 1: for twenty two coming out there, and they that's a risk.
Speaker 1: That's a financial risk that they had to look at.
Speaker 1: I will say this, there's been no indication it was
Speaker 1: any kind of issue with him with the lack of
Speaker 1: playing time. Mean, you look at his his playing time
Speaker 1: last year. He played ninety eight percent of the defensive snaps,
Speaker 1: and you say what you want about his production after
Speaker 1: he missed that first season and rehab with Britt Brown
Speaker 1: all year in twenty sixteen to get back from that
Speaker 1: career threatening injury, he was always available. And I bet
Speaker 1: teammates are shocked because there's a lot of he was
Speaker 1: the guy that broken broke down the huddle before kickoff
Speaker 1: on Sunday against Carolina. I bet guys are shocked. So
Speaker 1: but look it, Isaiah hit it. You guys hit it.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's about competition, and I'll take it one
Speaker 1: step further. I think it's also Jayron Curse has stepped
Speaker 1: into this kind of hybrid safety linebacker role where they've
Speaker 1: got three safeties on the field, this big nickel role,
Speaker 1: and he's not coming off the field. You got Kean
Speaker 1: O'Neil probably coming off COVID this week, and you mentioned
Speaker 1: your Bill Cox. I'm interesting if maybe he plays a
Speaker 1: little bit more. I don't know if it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a lot more, but he's only gotten four snaps. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe they are wanting to take a look at him
Speaker 1: a little bit more, you know, and he's got that
Speaker 1: speed and coverage ability that they're using. Curse for that
Speaker 1: that Kean Neil can brain that kind of stuff. The
Speaker 1: weird thing is that I don't think that this is
Speaker 1: the last move that the Cowboys make. If you talk
Speaker 1: about who's on what on I are and the guy said,
Speaker 1: I mean, because you're gonna have to make some some
Speaker 1: moves because of that competition that's coming. You know. It's
Speaker 1: almost like we're still in training camp as the season
Speaker 1: is going on the way that guys are still competing
Speaker 1: against each other. So look, man, this is just a
Speaker 1: very interesting move. I'm sure it shocked the hell out
Speaker 1: of a lot of guys on this team, but I
Speaker 1: think it put a lot of other guys on notice.
Speaker 1: Yeah it no bodies says the environment you want. You
Speaker 1: brought this up like a long time. When guys come
Speaker 1: off I are though, like recently, yeah, what do they do?
Speaker 1: There's now there's one open spot. I mean, Donovan Wilson's
Speaker 1: coming back to from injury. They gotta find snaps for him.
Speaker 1: It's uh, it looks like some depth fellas more depth
Speaker 1: than we've seen in a while, more depth than fifty
Speaker 1: three man roster can hold at some certain spots. I
Speaker 1: will say we just kind of a going along, going
Speaker 1: along with what Rob said. And I really liked the
Speaker 1: point that Heckma made a moment ago of talking about
Speaker 1: how what are you laughing about? Now? What's going on?
Speaker 1: I just went French for a second. Oh yeah, now
Speaker 1: I know what you're talking about. That that's an inside
Speaker 1: joke among this show. We had a couple of people
Speaker 1: reporting throughout the night last night saying, sources tell the
Speaker 1: cow Told or from the Cowboys tried unsuccessfully to trade
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith. Oh did everything they had asked him to do. Ultimately,
Speaker 1: the guys, like Heckno was saying, Kean O'Neil, Layton, Vander Esh,
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons, Drabill Cox and and their depth led to
Speaker 1: the decision, which is why we didn't really see that
Speaker 1: decision made in training camp, like you said, they were
Speaker 1: in limbo. I love that point. So why could you
Speaker 1: not trade this guy as straight up contract or is
Speaker 1: it more so the performance. How much money was he
Speaker 1: supposed to make this year including the four game Let's
Speaker 1: talk about how much he's already made in total. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I gotta look at his nobody's will, the seven millions
Speaker 1: guaranteed Chris being do you know what that is? This
Speaker 1: is the time. But anyways, nobody's gonna pay four million
Speaker 1: extension that he's signing. Nobody's gonna pay for him for
Speaker 1: his production. Okay, that's that's just let's just talk pure football.
Speaker 1: His contract. The Cowboys gave him a very nice contract
Speaker 1: that was a very Um, Jerry loved him. I'll say
Speaker 1: that Jerry loved him and gave him a very favorable contract,
Speaker 1: and it put this team, this organization in a bad position.
Speaker 1: Um when he did not put up that production, right,
Speaker 1: he didn't put it. When he doesn't put up that
Speaker 1: production in order, When you get paid like that, you're
Speaker 1: supposed to be a dominant force. You're supposed to be
Speaker 1: somebody that they circle on. Every time the often steps up,
Speaker 1: they circle you. You better know who it is due
Speaker 1: it is. He's a dog, right And I don't think
Speaker 1: aside from one year, I don't think Jayalen was ever
Speaker 1: that guy, right, so when you start calling another team,
Speaker 1: say hey, you want to pick up seven million dollars
Speaker 1: for him? No, you know, into that point, you know,
Speaker 1: it's just you know, kJ is my dog. But like
Speaker 1: kJ Right j R. He signed with with Las Vegas
Speaker 1: for three and a half million dollars. I can get
Speaker 1: a kJ Right for three and a half million. But
Speaker 1: you want me to pay seven million for him? Yeah? No,
Speaker 1: not above market value? Yeah not at this point in
Speaker 1: his career. And I think the only thing that I
Speaker 1: disagree with is that gave him. I feel like done,
Speaker 1: he earned it, and he signed a team friendly deal.
Speaker 1: Is the way that they said it was a team
Speaker 1: friendly deal when he signed it. So let's being fair
Speaker 1: to to Jalen Right. It came to a certain point
Speaker 1: where the speed just wasn't there. He couldn't move him, puppies,
Speaker 1: and you saw it. You know, they say the eye
Speaker 1: and the sky don't lie. And if it don't lie
Speaker 1: to us and we're seeing it, it don't lie to
Speaker 1: them back there when they're seeing it. It's like, damn,
Speaker 1: this is what we had designed. Dog. Where are you going?
Speaker 1: You know, So you can't continue to have credibility if
Speaker 1: you're a guy playing to that level, and you have
Speaker 1: a guy sitting over here on the bench that can
Speaker 1: give you more than that, and you're paying that guy
Speaker 1: twice what you would have paid the guy that you
Speaker 1: just mentioned, right, So that they put themselves in a
Speaker 1: conundrum that started in March. They had to cut bait,
Speaker 1: and I think they did what was necessary. You're right,
Speaker 1: that was an interesting stretch when he got that extension,
Speaker 1: and you're right, it wasn't like a monster extension. Lyle
Speaker 1: Collins got one two around the same time. It wasn't
Speaker 1: a monster extension. They were in the middle of negotiating
Speaker 1: with Zeke, trying to get him out of the hold out,
Speaker 1: and that was an interesting stretch of how much pies
Speaker 1: available and all that stuff. And he was coming off
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl appearance. But look, and he led the
Speaker 1: team and tackles the last two years. But clearly they
Speaker 1: felt like more competition was needed, and the snaps show it.
Speaker 1: He's playing fifty six percent of the snaps. He's playing
Speaker 1: half of what he normally does, and that's because other
Speaker 1: guys clearly they thought were playing better. I wonder if
Speaker 1: this move was made in March, there would have been
Speaker 1: a completely different mindset on the draft. Well, I mean
Speaker 1: to ross point I expected him to be gone then. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was looking at that date like there's no way,
Speaker 1: there's no way. We talked about there's no way they're
Speaker 1: gonna let him get and give him guarantee. First of all,
Speaker 1: bravo to his agent, dog On, I've never seen. I talked.
Speaker 1: I talked to Barry Church Raylier. We talked on the phone.
Speaker 1: We're like, bro, who is his agent? Because to get
Speaker 1: a guarantee, right, isn't he got a roster bonus? Pretty much?
Speaker 1: You got a roster guarantee when you're a starter. How
Speaker 1: do you get a roster guarantee as a starter right
Speaker 1: for a salary of that amount? Right? And then if
Speaker 1: I get injured, if I get injured at any point,
Speaker 1: my nine next year, my nine millions guaranteed. Bam, kudos signed.
Speaker 1: Everybody who's a free agent signed that dude because he
Speaker 1: took care of Jalen. Well, you know, look, man, some
Speaker 1: people played chess, some people play checkers, and when it
Speaker 1: came down to it, the cowboys are sitting there looking
Speaker 1: at it. It may have looked favorable back when he
Speaker 1: signed the deal, but when they were sitting around and
Speaker 1: the Cowboy Club and said, you know what, we're not
Speaker 1: gonna do this nine for US seven million dollars. As
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, kean On, Neil Curse and Michael
Speaker 1: Parsons make it where we don't have to do this,
Speaker 1: and so why would we keep that? And that's still
Speaker 1: is at nine on the cap for next year as well.
Speaker 1: So I mean, they're gonna pay for this move, but
Speaker 1: it was better for them just to go ahead and
Speaker 1: be rid of it, and you know, cut back, like
Speaker 1: I said, cut bait, go to another guy. Keana Neil
Speaker 1: makes what four men? I think it's less than that.
Speaker 1: I'm not entirely sure. I don't have it up in
Speaker 1: front of him. That's expensive boy. You know, for him,
Speaker 1: he's got a chance because he's vested. He's got a
Speaker 1: chance now to be a free agent immediately and try
Speaker 1: to find a spot somewhere else where he might get
Speaker 1: to play more. I don't know if that's going to
Speaker 1: happen this point in the season, but it's possible. There's
Speaker 1: a lot a lot of injuries at linebacker, and so
Speaker 1: it's he's gonna get that opportunity. I feel like he has.
Speaker 1: He hasn't done anything to ruin his reputation in the
Speaker 1: league other than just you know, just guys come with
Speaker 1: a reputation sometimes of being not good in the locker room,
Speaker 1: not being good off the field, and so that's not
Speaker 1: his reputation, and that's This is a guy that I
Speaker 1: gotta say this. This is a guy that does a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff in the Dallas community. He is a
Speaker 1: guy that goes to minority communities and take young kids
Speaker 1: and put them in these data camps and teach them
Speaker 1: how to code. He's a guy that gives money to
Speaker 1: minority businesses. I mean, you don't find a Jalen Jalen
Speaker 1: Smith in your community. And any team that does get
Speaker 1: this guy, they're gonna get a quality person in their
Speaker 1: locker room. So I mean, look, the production wasn't there,
Speaker 1: the play wasn't there, but just keeping it classic. Jalen
Speaker 1: Smith's a good dude as well. Said yeah, I'm glad
Speaker 1: you brought that up. I mean, you you remember back
Speaker 1: to last year he was the Walter Maten Band of
Speaker 1: the Year nominee from the Cowboys, and that's not an
Speaker 1: easy task. I mean, that is a high honor even
Speaker 1: to be nominated from a team, to be a part
Speaker 1: of that award process's at hey, But if being a
Speaker 1: good guy meant you had longevity in the NFL, rob P,
Speaker 1: you play for a lot of years, give you a bust.
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Speaker 1: We've got Chris in Indie on the line. What up, Chris?
Speaker 1: What's up? Guys? Love the show? Hey, I think you
Speaker 1: guys are missing something. Now last year, this last offseason,
Speaker 1: Jalen's contract was guaranteed for injury. He had risk surgery,
Speaker 1: so technically he couldn't pass his physical So the seven
Speaker 1: point two million was already guaranteed for the year, Isn't
Speaker 1: that correct? I can't remember if that's I thought it
Speaker 1: was because they just picked up the option. Right. Well, no,
Speaker 1: the contract was guaranteed for injury only, you know, if
Speaker 1: they didn't pick it up. But since he had risk
Speaker 1: surgery after the season, he couldn't pass the physicals, so
Speaker 1: the money was guaranteed. Regardless whether he got waived or not,
Speaker 1: the money was guaranteed. Okay, you might be right about that.
Speaker 1: He might be right about that. He is, Yeah, Chris
Speaker 1: Beam coming in hot saying yeah he is. Yeah, he's right,
Speaker 1: Chris and Chris Yeah, that's a good point. Then, I
Speaker 1: mean that kind of changes your thought process with this
Speaker 1: whole deal, right, because it was already guaranteed going into
Speaker 1: that decision making process, right Yeah. And that's why I
Speaker 1: mean I said what I was saying about offseason. I
Speaker 1: thought next year, they would do this in twenty twenty two,
Speaker 1: because then you're you're not you don't have to do
Speaker 1: that guarantee. It's kind of barring injury if you want
Speaker 1: to take the risk. And he's not playing as many
Speaker 1: snaps this year, so there's not there's probably less risk
Speaker 1: of getting hurt. But yeah, that's I mean, if they're
Speaker 1: not putting that, if they put in a situation where
Speaker 1: they had to do it, then yeah, kudos to them
Speaker 1: for going ahead and saying, look though, we still got
Speaker 1: to potentially upgrade the spot, and that's what they did,
Speaker 1: you know, drafting Parsons, adding guys, So they weren't happy
Speaker 1: with the death. Yeah, that brings up a whole nother
Speaker 1: wrinkle to it, because if he if that was already
Speaker 1: in you talk about how great as agent is, if
Speaker 1: he already had the risk surgery and it was gonna
Speaker 1: be guaranteed anyway, wasn't so much of a pickle as
Speaker 1: we think it is. But still, you know something about
Speaker 1: that March deadline, they still have to pick up his
Speaker 1: option from there, and so looks that's a great point.
Speaker 1: Chris appreciate that. Yeah, I'm glad glad he brought that up.
Speaker 1: But I think it does go back to kind of
Speaker 1: what Rob was just saying of even if that money
Speaker 1: is guaranteed from an earlier date that we didn't necessarily
Speaker 1: think about, it's still surprising that they do it. Week
Speaker 1: four of the NFL season week five of the NFL season,
Speaker 1: rather than waiting and just letting it ride out a
Speaker 1: little more. How does that change the chemistry of your
Speaker 1: team when a guy like that, when a guy like that,
Speaker 1: that's a that's a staple in your in your locker room,
Speaker 1: is cut after four games. Well, let me just let
Speaker 1: me start by saying this. We don't know what's going
Speaker 1: on in the locker room, right, so there might be
Speaker 1: other layers to this that we don't that we're unaware of.
Speaker 1: So let me let me preface it with that. But
Speaker 1: to your point, it puts everybody on notice. You already
Speaker 1: said that everybody's unnotice and that's something that we've talked
Speaker 1: about in here. It's Quinn. It's a quinteffect. It's a
Speaker 1: Quint effect, right, I think in past, in the past,
Speaker 1: if you're a cowboy or anybody else, no matter where
Speaker 1: you're at, if you're getting paid a certain amount, you're
Speaker 1: on a team, especially if your contracts guarantee, Yeah, what's
Speaker 1: the what's the benefit? What's the benefit of me letting
Speaker 1: you go? Even if even if you were reverted all
Speaker 1: the way back to just a specialist. For me, I'm
Speaker 1: already I gotta pay you anyway, So you're gonna do
Speaker 1: something to contribute to this team. Even if I don't
Speaker 1: have you on the field, I'm paying you seven millie
Speaker 1: or plus whatever he's already made, right, So to let
Speaker 1: him go, it lets everybody else know that you were
Speaker 1: not exempt, that you were not exempt. You understand that
Speaker 1: the owner of this organization has said that he is
Speaker 1: a cornerstone player for us. If we're willing to let
Speaker 1: go of our cornerstone player and he's already do the
Speaker 1: money and we're just gifting him money to go home,
Speaker 1: everybody can get it, but can man, everybody can get
Speaker 1: it well, even with the cornerstone talk. I mean again,
Speaker 1: I don't know if that was just Yea, it would talk,
Speaker 1: you know at the time, but you know the way
Speaker 1: that they responded. We're gonna give Quinn a lot of
Speaker 1: the credit for the competition part, but we have to
Speaker 1: give the front office credit for making the tough decisions.
Speaker 1: And if they're willing to make those tough decisions and say, look,
Speaker 1: we don't care about all of these other things, it
Speaker 1: has to show up production wise on the and if
Speaker 1: that wands, then we need to go in a different direction.
Speaker 1: We talk about the depth that we didn't have last
Speaker 1: year in conjunction with what we have right now. And
Speaker 1: it's a nighting day situation. And I think you can't
Speaker 1: make those situations. You can't make those decisions last year
Speaker 1: because your hands were tied behind your back. You had nothing.
Speaker 1: Who was behind him, Louke Gifford or someone like that.
Speaker 1: So Joe Thomas who's now on the Texans, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was about it. This is what happens too when you
Speaker 1: bring in a defensive coordinator. I'm not saying this is
Speaker 1: all dan Quinn, but he comes in and he's got
Speaker 1: a fresh set of eyes and what he wants. And
Speaker 1: you know, he brought into a safety and a safety
Speaker 1: turn linebacker that he thought I played with them or
Speaker 1: I coached them. They're gonna help transform this defense that
Speaker 1: is that carries a lot of weight, you know, And
Speaker 1: that's that's a big reason why you're looking at the
Speaker 1: snap disparity from from from last year. And it's also
Speaker 1: Micah Parsons a guy you just can't take off the field,
Speaker 1: you know. Now, I'm curious now with this decision, does
Speaker 1: that change his role at all going forward? Or you
Speaker 1: still just look at it like, you know, based on
Speaker 1: matchups wherever Mica needs to play, will play him there,
Speaker 1: and for whatever's best for that particular week. I would
Speaker 1: agree with just that. You know, you stay with Mica
Speaker 1: in his role of he does everything all right. You know,
Speaker 1: he's a sinner, he's a corner, he's the safety, he's
Speaker 1: all of those things. But it just shows the talent.
Speaker 1: I just believe that backside of the backfield tight ends.
Speaker 1: And you look at our matchups going forward. I just
Speaker 1: look at what we're doing this Sunday versus the Giants. Man,
Speaker 1: they have a back that's going to be out of
Speaker 1: the backfield. And I don't think that we wanted to
Speaker 1: see Jayles Smith in open air with him and y'all laugh,
Speaker 1: and I appreciate that. Let's go to Sam in Atlanta. Sam,
Speaker 1: what's going on? You're on talking Cowboys? Hey, what's going on? Man? Hey?
Speaker 1: What I'm say? Yeah? Yeah, I UM. I just wanted
Speaker 1: to time in a little bit. I know there's not
Speaker 1: a whole lot I can say to Heaven and said,
Speaker 1: but I was a little shock. I wasn't surprised at
Speaker 1: the mood because everybody's been talking about, you know, Jaylen
Speaker 1: and his speed and I was one of the biggest
Speaker 1: fans of his, you know, because of the injury and everything.
Speaker 1: But I wanted to just touch a couple of things,
Speaker 1: and then I get off. You were talking about, you know,
Speaker 1: how it puts everybody on notice, and two names in
Speaker 1: particular that came up to my mind when you said that,
Speaker 1: And I want y'all to just kind of dive into
Speaker 1: First of all, Lyell Collins. I don't know what his
Speaker 1: contract situation is, but you know the fact that still
Speaker 1: has come on so much, and Lyle did such a
Speaker 1: you know, a stupid thing and what he did, and
Speaker 1: the other ones being um Tank Lawn. I mean, everybody's
Speaker 1: talking about, yeah, thank great, you know, and run and
Speaker 1: all of this and that. But now we see that
Speaker 1: we played better without both of those guys. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna hang up, but I would y'all just talk about
Speaker 1: that a little bit. So two people are even more
Speaker 1: people that may be on notice, appreciate the call. Thanks
Speaker 1: so much, Sam, Sam might be the bravest man in
Speaker 1: Cowboys Nation. Sam and the old statement. But I mean
Speaker 1: it's a question that needs to be asked, right, are
Speaker 1: they playing better? Are they they're finding ways to get by?
Speaker 1: I think, are they're going to be even better when
Speaker 1: both guys get back. Yeah, you can talk, or you
Speaker 1: can factor in their salary and do a both way.
Speaker 1: You can say it's both ways. We don't know what's
Speaker 1: gonna happen when they come back, but you're right at
Speaker 1: the moment, that's what it looks like. Are they better
Speaker 1: when they both guys get back? I think so? Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean everybody should think so, right. No, I mean, like,
Speaker 1: Terry Steele has done a hell of a job, but
Speaker 1: I do not now he's not lyo Colin. We come
Speaker 1: a long way with Taryn Steele in the last three weeks.
Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, what were we suppose everybody's saying dialogue, Yeah,
Speaker 1: get rid of him, you know, Like I just feel
Speaker 1: as though, you know, Terrence Steele has done a great job,
Speaker 1: but when lall comes off of that suspension, he going
Speaker 1: right back over there to the right side and do
Speaker 1: his job. You know. But the other thing about Tank
Speaker 1: Lawrence is I think it's so easy to look at
Speaker 1: this organization and say, look at the production of guys
Speaker 1: once they get paid, and starting from the Cowboys, I
Speaker 1: look everywhere, but here specifically, guys get paid and production
Speaker 1: goes down and putting guys on notice is one thing,
Speaker 1: but asking guys to look, man, this is what you have,
Speaker 1: be who you are. But if you don't have the
Speaker 1: guys next to you to help you, and you're getting
Speaker 1: double and triple teamed every time because you're the only
Speaker 1: thing that they have to look at, then that changes. Tank.
Speaker 1: Tank can't be tanked when he's taking on a triple team. Well, now,
Speaker 1: when you line up, when you're line up Michael Parsons,
Speaker 1: Chauncey Golston and Tank Lawrence on the same side of
Speaker 1: the ball, who the hell are you gonna throw team?
Speaker 1: Who are you going to double team? That is a nightmare.
Speaker 1: And especially when you have hunters up front and not
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys that are pretending to be hunters. Also,
Speaker 1: not to mention Osa Odigi Zooa on the other side
Speaker 1: with Randy Gregory, maybe Neville Gallimore when he comes back.
Speaker 1: I agree, there's gonna be a lot of single team
Speaker 1: schemes go or a single person schemes going up against
Speaker 1: the Marcus Lawrence. That was just and I point that
Speaker 1: out because that was one of the blitzes that Dan
Speaker 1: Quinn bought from the right side last week versus the Panthers,
Speaker 1: and you could tell if the Panthers were like, oh
Speaker 1: s shakerbobs, who are we? Who are we going to stop?
Speaker 1: Because Michael Parsons was lined up over the guard. He's
Speaker 1: lined up standing up over the guard, Chauncey's over the tackle,
Speaker 1: and then you have Randy Gregory on the outside. I
Speaker 1: do that's a night man. He's mugging the a gap.
Speaker 1: That's what he's doing. Micah, Yeah, no doubt. All right,
Speaker 1: let's go to that's my favorite football termugging the gap. Man.
Speaker 1: Appreciate Sam and Atlanta for the call. Let's go to
Speaker 1: Fred in DC. What up? Fred? You're on talking Cowboys?
Speaker 1: What's up, gentleman? Um? So we were talking about the
Speaker 1: Jayalen stuff. I was thinking back in March and you
Speaker 1: and you kind of made this point as I've been
Speaker 1: on hold, is that you didn't have Kano, you didn't
Speaker 1: have Micah, you didn't have Debrille. All you had was
Speaker 1: Jalen and Lde and injured Gifford and Joe Thomas maybe,
Speaker 1: but then he left, so you really had nothing and
Speaker 1: you had to start. But then other guy mentioned the
Speaker 1: injury settlement, which I didn't realize was the case. But
Speaker 1: you know, with all these things, I don't think there
Speaker 1: was actually a choice about having Jailed on the team.
Speaker 1: But I was actually proud that once they realized that
Speaker 1: there was no more utility or advantage to having him
Speaker 1: on the team to let him go. And so that's
Speaker 1: that to me, that signifies the shift of mindset that
Speaker 1: we've been waiting on for so long, like this would
Speaker 1: never happened in Jason, and I'm just happy that somebody,
Speaker 1: you know, that people in the room or finally helping
Speaker 1: make the decisions as opposed to just you know, being
Speaker 1: put or whatever. So that was on the point I
Speaker 1: wanted to debate. I appreciate it. That's a great point
Speaker 1: because they hadn't drafted two linebackers yet. And that's why
Speaker 1: previous caller I got a double check that because I
Speaker 1: that at that point that's a good thought. It's like,
Speaker 1: from a death perspective, let's just go ahead and keep
Speaker 1: him on the roster for twenty twenty one. Yes, it's guaranteed.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if it was what the physical being
Speaker 1: able to pass situation was by late March. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure because Zeke was the same thing Zeke was healthy,
Speaker 1: but it was like, if he's on the roster and
Speaker 1: March whatever, his salaries fully guaranteed it was the same thing.
Speaker 1: But I'm not sure where Jalen was exactly with his
Speaker 1: injury at that point. We'll see either way, they protected
Speaker 1: themselves depth wise at the time. Yeah, and they didn't
Speaker 1: have that that mindset of going into the draft saying
Speaker 1: we heard, yeah, we're gonna draft two linebackers. We're gonna
Speaker 1: draft Michael Parsons first and then have jbial Cox slide
Speaker 1: to us the way that he was able to. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that's kind of what I was mentioning earlier is if
Speaker 1: you had made this move in March, do you go
Speaker 1: into the draft with the mindset of, oh, Michael Parsons
Speaker 1: is our guy, then do you trade or do you
Speaker 1: draft him right at ten and not risk going down
Speaker 1: to twelve? Or do you not draft Chauncey Golston because
Speaker 1: I was the pick you got for the Eagles from
Speaker 1: moving from ten to twelve. So there's a couple domino
Speaker 1: effect things that could have happened, but I think overall,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys did what they needed to to protect their
Speaker 1: depth at that level. One last caller here and then
Speaker 1: we'll take our second break. Josh from Maryland. You're on
Speaker 1: talking Cowboys. Hey, what's alright? Alright, long time. It's the
Speaker 1: first time called appreciate question. Um yeah, I think that
Speaker 1: that's another nine. Put too much on a fine light
Speaker 1: little Jameson because he was real fine for the whole season.
Speaker 1: That sounded funny here one time Sunday. So we oh,
Speaker 1: I think we lost Josh. Say what you just said again? Okay,
Speaker 1: can hear me? Filo? Sorry, I'm on the back room.
Speaker 1: You're good, okay. Yeah, So I was saying that number nine.
Speaker 1: I think that put another spotlight on him and he
Speaker 1: didn't mean because, um, he stopped doing the swike this year,
Speaker 1: and in this Chast game he made one tackle and
Speaker 1: that one tackle he made he brought that swipe back out.
Speaker 1: But I've seen some reports saying that he might a
Speaker 1: guy who cut about two weeks ago. Um, but he
Speaker 1: on Neil had the COVID situation because he really was
Speaker 1: to get too many half percentages snacks. It only bumped
Speaker 1: up to fifty because ke On nil then out. So
Speaker 1: appreciate you filers taking call. Hope to get to you
Speaker 1: next time. Oh good, Josh Man, give me a craft
Speaker 1: cake please in Maryland. Yeah, the old game, you hear me? Yea.
Speaker 1: They don't know about that obe all that stuff. So
Speaker 1: to that horrible state and we got I appreciate it, Josh.
Speaker 1: He brings up a point that a lot of Cowboys
Speaker 1: fans would like to mention. Then the swipe one last time.
Speaker 1: I don't think this cut had anything to do with
Speaker 1: the swipe. Get that out of the way. But hey,
Speaker 1: let me ask somebody if you do something, if you
Speaker 1: do something and you say, baby, are you're okay and
Speaker 1: your wife go okay, I'm okay, what does that mean?
Speaker 1: Not okay? Okay? So I'm not mad. I'm just disappointed,
Speaker 1: you know right, somebody wasn't say it about that swipe. Okay,
Speaker 1: he got his last okay. Jerry was in was up
Speaker 1: there in his suite and he already said he said, now, Chili,
Speaker 1: here we go. If you swipe one more goddamn time,
Speaker 1: oh you're out of here. And that was it. He
Speaker 1: saw tech all crap, here you go. He brought that
Speaker 1: arm back. That's it, get back if you hit if
Speaker 1: one more Aaron, that is not a cowbit. Yes, he's
Speaker 1: not a cowbit. Did he just wipe Stephen? Did he
Speaker 1: just swipe it clean? Michael, Rob, You and I are
Speaker 1: gonna be doing the show tomorrow just by ourselves. I
Speaker 1: don't know if any of us are. Chris Aaron's Hey
Speaker 1: do it again? All right, let's take our second break
Speaker 1: special thanks to all the callers today. When we come
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Speaker 1: on Talking Cowboys. After our two days suspension, UM, okay,
Speaker 1: so we don't. It's got some men to do, so
Speaker 1: we don't actually have a suspension. NFL dot Com has
Speaker 1: reported that the Patriots planned to release cornerback Stefine Gilmore
Speaker 1: from New England. Gilmore and all pro cornerback it has
Speaker 1: been in New England for how long six years, seven years,
Speaker 1: pretty high amount of time in New England. It looks
Speaker 1: like that time's coming to a close as of this afternoon.
Speaker 1: It is supposed to be coming down the transaction wire
Speaker 1: sometime this afternoon. But that means the cornerbacks on the
Speaker 1: market and there is an extra roster spot. I don't
Speaker 1: know if the cap has the room for it, but
Speaker 1: you can make it work, right, Isaac, We created cap room. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys remember a while back there structure how much?
Speaker 1: How much room do we have? Is about ten? Oh?
Speaker 1: They created a dozen million? Yeah, we got we have enough.
Speaker 1: We haven't He was due I think five eight if
Speaker 1: I remember correctly this year, I think it was like seven,
Speaker 1: like seven, and then I think his pro rad of
Speaker 1: salary for the year would be something like nine to
Speaker 1: ten million. Okay, well, either way, we have enough, right, okay, um,
Speaker 1: would you basically do let's let's play let's play a
Speaker 1: game of what if? Okay, let's play it. What if
Speaker 1: we had an opportunity with the season that we're having
Speaker 1: with the cornerback play, that we're having, the secondary, the
Speaker 1: whole defense, right, but we have a guy with Trayvon
Speaker 1: Diggs that that that my guy Hick him absolutely lest
Speaker 1: we all love. And he's playing really well ball, really
Speaker 1: really good ball. Um playing the best cornerback ball in
Speaker 1: the league right now. And imagine, just imagine he's a
Speaker 1: second year of player. Correct, Imagine if we have the
Speaker 1: opportunity to pair him up with one of the two
Speaker 1: leagues considered considered by the league to be shut down
Speaker 1: corners Jalen Ramsey Stephanie Gilmore. Those are the only two
Speaker 1: that coming among when you talk about shutdown like I
Speaker 1: go where you go, I'm with you, I'm in your
Speaker 1: back pocket. Okay, imagine if we had an opportunity to
Speaker 1: add that to what we have going on right now.
Speaker 1: Who not only is a proven leader, he's also a
Speaker 1: super Bowl champion, and he's a number one corner that
Speaker 1: needs to ball out one year to go out and
Speaker 1: get the big boy contract that he wants. Oh and
Speaker 1: by the way, Dallas happens to be the biggest market,
Speaker 1: the largest marketed team in the world. A lot of
Speaker 1: opportunity there, a lot of opportunity there. I would say,
Speaker 1: why not. Jerry has alluded to him running out it
Speaker 1: kind of his time is kind of going right, kind
Speaker 1: of he feels that he's getting older, and I feel
Speaker 1: like he really want He obviously wants to go get
Speaker 1: that thing. He know, we know, we all know that's
Speaker 1: what he wants more than anything. It's a super Bowl.
Speaker 1: When he feels as if he's that close, this close,
Speaker 1: right four games in, he already feels we have a
Speaker 1: legitimate shot to go after this thing this year. Not
Speaker 1: just Cowboys Nation hype. This is like legitimate. We have
Speaker 1: a solid roster, we're playing well. Why would you not
Speaker 1: add another chess piece that would even more make you
Speaker 1: more dominant on that side of the ball. You have
Speaker 1: no question marks on offense, you had no you had
Speaker 1: question marks and on defense before the season started? Why
Speaker 1: not secure that secure it were? It doesn't matter what
Speaker 1: side you go to. You gotta do with Diggs or
Speaker 1: you gotta deal with Gilmour. It really doesn't matter. It
Speaker 1: really doesn't matter. And we're going to face teams that
Speaker 1: we need two guys that could shut down some people,
Speaker 1: because we saw in Week one you did a good
Speaker 1: job against one, but there's another dude on the other
Speaker 1: side named Antonio Brown that kicked our butt right every
Speaker 1: team that we face going into the playoffs and all
Speaker 1: that jazz down the road, We're going to need some
Speaker 1: other guys other than just Diggs, and if you have
Speaker 1: opportunity to secure him secure the back. That's my opinion.
Speaker 1: I love what you just said, and I think Stephan
Speaker 1: Gilmore and Jalen ramsay you're absolutely correct. Those are guys
Speaker 1: that you have to mention in the same breath when
Speaker 1: you talk about shutdown corners. When I look at our team,
Speaker 1: I see Dan Quinn as the man that maybe did
Speaker 1: what Mike McCarthy did in his year off in changing
Speaker 1: everything that he did. Dan Quinn was a cover three
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. That's what I'm gonna play because I don't
Speaker 1: believe that your guys can beat the guys that I have.
Speaker 1: He's changed that, he's changing his coverages up all the time,
Speaker 1: going zone, going man, all of those things. Stephan Gilmore
Speaker 1: to me, is a nomad corner. He's like, we're turning
Speaker 1: Trayvon Digs into it. He'm traveling with the main guy.
Speaker 1: What system? You know. I think he could play in
Speaker 1: any every system because of Belichick, right, but I think
Speaker 1: thirty one at the age of thirty one right now,
Speaker 1: with the injury history, that he's the injury that he's
Speaker 1: coming off of which is a quad. We don't know
Speaker 1: when he would be back. And obviously, whenever he did
Speaker 1: get an opportunity to come back off of our healthy
Speaker 1: then obviously you could use that. But look at what
Speaker 1: you have right now, and I think that if you
Speaker 1: look at the health and where this team is, we
Speaker 1: could use Stephan Gilmore, a guy of his caliber, but
Speaker 1: I think the money and his age isn't right to
Speaker 1: fit what we have right now. One year and look
Speaker 1: even for one year, if we went down that road,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be mad. I wouldn't be sitting over. I'd
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, let's get let's get it on. But
Speaker 1: I think, from from an internal standpoint, there are other
Speaker 1: things that we could do to make this team better.
Speaker 1: And I'm saying from AD tackle, we no and I'm
Speaker 1: saying the depth we have at d tackle, We've had
Speaker 1: guys that are coming back that we hope are going
Speaker 1: to be healthy. But again that's the great unknown in
Speaker 1: a lot of areas. Again, Stephan Gilmore is one of
Speaker 1: the players that I love in this league because he's
Speaker 1: a straight up certified dog. There's no question you don't
Speaker 1: need to co sign that. All I'm saying is for
Speaker 1: where he is right now in his career and what
Speaker 1: we have we need it. Yeah, no, and that that
Speaker 1: those are all great points. I mean Gilmore still banged up,
Speaker 1: like you said, I mean he's on pup for a reason,
Speaker 1: he's physically unable to perform. But he does bring in
Speaker 1: that resume that could take Trey von Dix to the
Speaker 1: next level. But do you really want that messing up
Speaker 1: a group because right now your defense has a bit
Speaker 1: of a group. Jerry was asked about, you know, would
Speaker 1: you have been in on another veteran cornerback who signed
Speaker 1: with Tampa Bay and he talked about progress stopping. So
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean every case is different, and
Speaker 1: I get again this is not official, but the NFL
Speaker 1: media is saying this is going to happen. Officially, New
Speaker 1: England's gonna do this. I think thirty one team's antennas
Speaker 1: are up because of the quality of player, and is
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Money's the reason why he's not
Speaker 1: going to be there anymore. He wants more money. He
Speaker 1: wasn't willing to restructure his contracts. So, like you said,
Speaker 1: like what does he want to do? Does he want
Speaker 1: to take a kind of bet on myself deal to
Speaker 1: come back healthy, very serious injury. I mean it's a
Speaker 1: quad deal and he's out at least through week six,
Speaker 1: I guess. So there's that, and then there's gonna be
Speaker 1: a lot of teams interested in So I mean it's
Speaker 1: there's there's money and injuries or the fact that's your
Speaker 1: Tampa on the phone right now. Oh, everybody's everybody, everybody
Speaker 1: is one of them. How many cornerbacks do you get
Speaker 1: to put your hands on that are of his calibernut?
Speaker 1: I mean it's hardly, ever, hardly ever. Again, he knows
Speaker 1: that he needs a prove it year. Nobody's gonna give him.
Speaker 1: He knows he can't get the contract that he wants
Speaker 1: right now coming off of an injury unless he proves
Speaker 1: it first correct. He doesn't want to prove it with
Speaker 1: a team that's crap. He wants to prove of what
Speaker 1: a team that's doing well and he wasn't doing in
Speaker 1: a highly touted market, highly exposed market, Dallas Cowboys, the
Speaker 1: greatest market there is in football right Dallas Cowboy is
Speaker 1: a very competitive team right now, probably the most energy
Speaker 1: on defense right now, playing well for a great defensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: Another great corner. I don't have to come in and
Speaker 1: be that guy because there's another guy that's already balling out,
Speaker 1: So I don't. All the spotlight won't be on me, right,
Speaker 1: so he can come into a good situation. We know
Speaker 1: he's a team player because he's coming from freaking Belichick.
Speaker 1: He knows how to play all dusiness. He can travel
Speaker 1: if we need him to. If Diggs goes down, guess what,
Speaker 1: we still have a number one. There's too many positives.
Speaker 1: We have the money, we create a cap space. You're
Speaker 1: in a position. If I'm Jerry Jones, secure the freaking bag.
Speaker 1: Secure the bag. You have the best training staff in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Do your homework, do whatever you gotta do.
Speaker 1: Check him out, doctor Cooper, all of them cats. Check
Speaker 1: him out, get him in the building. He's a team player,
Speaker 1: he's a leader. He's the one of the best cornerbacks,
Speaker 1: one of the best two cornerbacks in the league when healthy.
Speaker 1: That's we can say that about anybody, right Why not? No,
Speaker 1: I ain't he can mentor Trademond Diggs right now is
Speaker 1: the veteran at the corner position. Yeah, come on now, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know again, we signed up for this youth movement,
Speaker 1: and here we are. And I also and I also
Speaker 1: feel I agree with you with that. I mean, what
Speaker 1: do you have to lose nothing? You got a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl to win, So make that move. Now you strike
Speaker 1: when the iron's hot. That is the m of the league.
Speaker 1: And you talk about and I can see this clearly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was a traveling corner in New England. That don't
Speaker 1: mean he has to do it when he's here, right,
Speaker 1: he doesn't have to do it when he's here. And
Speaker 1: we see that the other weaknesses and teams are gonna
Speaker 1: just completely stop throwing to Trayvons guy, They're just gonna stop,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna try and start exposing the other side. Well,
Speaker 1: I think right now, Anthony Brown and the guy that
Speaker 1: we're talking about, it's not even the one A, one
Speaker 1: B situation. So I mean, everybody's shaking the head. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you just imagine this, imagine this right, because we're
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna face this right. Kansas City's coming up
Speaker 1: on the docket. Down the road. Okay, some weeks down
Speaker 1: the road. You come up, you're at Patrick Mahomes, you
Speaker 1: come up to the line of scrimmage, you look at
Speaker 1: one side, you're like Digs. You On the other side,
Speaker 1: you see Gilmore, you're look in the middle, you see
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons and you got d law in Gregory. Well
Speaker 1: what is going on? Yeah? What is going on right now?
Speaker 1: Coming hey and and Diggs and get more. Don't I
Speaker 1: don't care who comes over here. Come on, come on,
Speaker 1: come come on, I don't care. I don't have the
Speaker 1: w I don't have to worry about who's going to
Speaker 1: what's side? We got you? No. I love that, I
Speaker 1: really do. I love that. But you know, man, it's
Speaker 1: it's not as three o'clock hits. I'm like, what you want?
Speaker 1: I got a million more than what you want right now.
Speaker 1: I want to get him do it? Yea yeah. But
Speaker 1: that's the thing, though, is it's never that straight never
Speaker 1: that straightforward. I agree completely with everybody's thought process here,
Speaker 1: but it's gonna be a complex deal, just how we
Speaker 1: saw from the other side. Finally, don't stop it. That's
Speaker 1: a lot, bigger, a lot things just empty the wall.
Speaker 1: You got it? What are you saving it for? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh goodness, I mean in the market deal too. I
Speaker 1: mean you you mentioned it with you wants to go
Speaker 1: to a bigger market. That's why you went to New
Speaker 1: England from Buffalo. And I would imagine at his age,
Speaker 1: he's I mean, he's won Super Bowls. He's just trying
Speaker 1: to play for a super This is a group of
Speaker 1: Cowboys earn a group of teams that earned that category
Speaker 1: after four games. But I will look again, though he's
Speaker 1: been out since December. What did I say? Did you
Speaker 1: hear that? Did you hear what he just said? Did
Speaker 1: I say it? What? Did I passed out for a sec?
Speaker 1: Said I actually say it? Did he black out? Did
Speaker 1: he say it? He said it? Well, that's it for
Speaker 1: us on talk. Oh no, we got in there. We'll
Speaker 1: see you tomorrow, nine am Central Time for heck Ma Harrison,
Speaker 1: Isaiah stand back, Rob Phillips, Chris Beam in the backup,
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