Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast asn't lost Mark to the desert yet.
Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to day two from Radio Row in
Speaker 2: Las Vegas of the Around the NFL Podcast presented by
Speaker 2: Draft Kings. Dan hansis here, of course, with the heroes
Speaker 2: Greg Rosenthal and Mark Sessler.
Speaker 3: I think we should start here.
Speaker 2: GREGI Mark, how you feeling, dog, because there were it
Speaker 2: was a little touch and go yesterday looking at.
Speaker 4: You, and I feel, you know, I typically feel terrible
Speaker 4: when that's happening, because it's like people are having to
Speaker 4: listen to someone's voice that is not Radio Row ready,
Speaker 4: and Greg is looking at me, and I understand, like,
Speaker 4: is this person gonna fall? So no, I would say
Speaker 4: I was at twelve percent yesterday. I'm in about forty
Speaker 4: thirty eight percent.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's great, that's great.
Speaker 2: In fact, we we took a car to get to
Speaker 2: Radio Row, and leads with the fact that he thinks
Speaker 2: that he might be on the way out and his
Speaker 2: illness is raging, and I could see the driver getting
Speaker 2: very uncomfortable in like a March twenty twenty kind of way.
Speaker 4: I like, you know, in this huge, vast Radio Row,
Speaker 4: like a lot of people were huddling together and talking
Speaker 4: and catching up.
Speaker 5: There's a seat over by the wall over there.
Speaker 4: I was just sitting over there, trying to respect everyone else.
Speaker 3: Is one does as one does.
Speaker 6: It wouldn't be your normal antisocial proclivities that are contributing.
Speaker 3: To I don't think you're sitting against that wall. No
Speaker 3: matter what.
Speaker 5: Well, in this case, it benefited multiple.
Speaker 7: I hope you remember this.
Speaker 6: You say you have no recollection of what happened yesterday.
Speaker 7: No, we we had to.
Speaker 3: That sounds like more than a.
Speaker 7: Out of there. And uh, it's got to be a big.
Speaker 3: Show, you know.
Speaker 2: So excited because this is this is the episode.
Speaker 3: Of the year for me.
Speaker 2: Guest wise and reviews are in the premiere, the pilot
Speaker 2: episode of Mark's Man Cave.
Speaker 3: People love it.
Speaker 2: They love the energy, they love the tone, they love
Speaker 2: the conversation. Coming up today, it's the Sauce Dog Spectacular.
Speaker 3: Sauce Dog.
Speaker 2: We have Sauce Gardner, New York Jets Superstar. We have
Speaker 2: Chris mad Dog Russo, icon of sports media, both on
Speaker 2: the show today.
Speaker 3: And if that's not if that's not enough, we got
Speaker 3: a pipe here.
Speaker 2: We got a pipe in person, which was an incredible
Speaker 2: surprise to me because it was off my radar. Nick Shook,
Speaker 2: who is so important to our show during the season,
Speaker 2: is here covering the forty nine ers, and he had
Speaker 2: an interesting bar experience that we're gonna get to later
Speaker 2: yesterday that really tied it to our show in a
Speaker 2: really neat way.
Speaker 3: So here we are. What a show again?
Speaker 2: This is the Sauce Dog Spectacular.
Speaker 3: With a little side of pipe.
Speaker 6: Well, I love anything with the side of pipe. And
Speaker 6: it's our previous show too. You know, we're we're diving in.
Speaker 6: No One I'd rather do it with than Shook and uh,
Speaker 6: no one I'd rather fawn over and tell the same
Speaker 6: sort of stories as we introduce how we grew up
Speaker 6: listening to him than Mad Dogs.
Speaker 7: But we can skip that part this time.
Speaker 5: Greg maybe is less into that aspect of it.
Speaker 7: I love Mad Dog. I don't want to hear that.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 4: It's like you could say some you know, someone who's
Speaker 4: a pessimist could say that we cater some of our
Speaker 4: guest appearances to our own personal interest. We've had two Browns,
Speaker 4: We're gonna have a jet, We're gonna have a Shook
Speaker 4: is everyone's interest, but Mad Dog our childhood hero. But
Speaker 4: you know what, you go do a podcast for twelve
Speaker 4: years and bring a guest on that you want to
Speaker 4: bring on?
Speaker 3: Is it whose show?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 3: It's our show?
Speaker 8: A bit?
Speaker 6: Well, can I get like a pro woman's tennis player
Speaker 6: on the show or something?
Speaker 2: Let's get I would say stephie Graff.
Speaker 7: He has been getting out in the mix more lately.
Speaker 2: See if we get Steph a little uh now already
Speaker 2: I'm in the whole little bit with the tennis corn
Speaker 2: of Coba.
Speaker 6: Can see if sell us in a big spot. Yes,
Speaker 6: let's go with the.
Speaker 2: Little Chrissy Evert Martina. And by the way, mad Dog
Speaker 2: he loves talking tennis too, So if you were to
Speaker 2: get a tennis question in there, why don't you do that, Craig.
Speaker 7: I'm sure that would be of interest to our listeners.
Speaker 4: When he died solo shows, he talked tennis for an
Speaker 4: hour on a ripley.
Speaker 5: He would love it, Craig.
Speaker 2: I think what what Greg was indirectly saying is he
Speaker 2: doesn't want you to tell the story about driving with
Speaker 2: your dad in the car listening to Mad Dog on
Speaker 2: Saturdays again.
Speaker 5: I think we've covered.
Speaker 2: But I would love it because mad Dog's in here
Speaker 2: like he's never heard it before, so right, all right,
Speaker 2: so let's get into it. I mean enough enough, because
Speaker 2: right now, as has been mentioned, it's time for the
Speaker 2: Sauce Dog Spectacular Part one. Toss Gardner of the New
Speaker 2: York Jets, All Pro, former Defensive Rookie of the Year,
Speaker 2: the best player on my favorite team in the world.
Speaker 3: This is cool. This is what it's cool to be here.
Speaker 3: What's up, Sauce? How are you?
Speaker 9: I'm great, man. I appreciate you all for having me.
Speaker 9: You know, it's a blessing to be here.
Speaker 3: And tell us, yeah, tell us what you're doing with
Speaker 3: Verizon now, it's.
Speaker 9: Always great to you know how my name of Verizon
Speaker 9: ain't mentioned in the same sentence. I'm a huge fan
Speaker 9: of them and I'll just enjoy working with them. Like
Speaker 9: I said, I'm here on behalf of Verizon, you know,
Speaker 9: the official Viagey Network go to the NFL, a network
Speaker 9: that the majority, if not all, of the NFL players,
Speaker 9: fans and coaches rely on. So, you know, it's a
Speaker 9: blessing to be here.
Speaker 6: How do you feel about this is the Sauce Dog
Speaker 6: Spectacular kind of being the opening act here for Mad
Speaker 6: Doc Russo coming on later in.
Speaker 9: The show's fire right there. I like that.
Speaker 7: Okay, I like that. I'm glad you're with it.
Speaker 5: You got a sound effect and everything.
Speaker 4: I think that I saw them looking in your eye
Speaker 4: with hit it sauce.
Speaker 2: Here's a theory to get into things. You know, this
Speaker 2: Chiefs team, your Jets, our Jets. We kind of beat
Speaker 2: them in Week four. If the officials didn't shenanigans.
Speaker 3: Let's be real.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you could say it, but I
Speaker 2: could say shenanigans by the transit of property. If the
Speaker 2: Chiefs went on Sunday, the Jets are the super Bowl champions.
Speaker 3: Yeah, your name.
Speaker 9: I guess Jets fans can possibly say that. But you know,
Speaker 9: reality is everything. So if it's not actually saying Jets
Speaker 9: super Bowl, then we ain't win it.
Speaker 6: What was it like going up against them at that
Speaker 6: point in the season and everything and what they kind
Speaker 6: of presented to you, Like, how is it different?
Speaker 9: It was great, you know, a competitive, a whole bunch
Speaker 9: of elite players on that team. You know, I still
Speaker 9: feel like we should have won that game. No, come on,
Speaker 9: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Did they get you on one of those penalties?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 9: Yeah they did?
Speaker 2: Oh come on, you're gonna analyze sauce in the fourth
Speaker 2: quarter of crunch Time, it.
Speaker 4: Was it makes me sick, it does What did you
Speaker 4: What did you learn about Patrick Mahomes in that game?
Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 3: You got lucky.
Speaker 9: Now I learned that he you know how to how
Speaker 9: do I put this when this crunch time? You know
Speaker 9: exactly what to do? You know the guys to rely on,
Speaker 9: you know, win and went not to do certain things.
Speaker 9: He's just a smart player.
Speaker 2: He made those big plays with his legs I remember
Speaker 2: in the game, and always an underrated part of his game.
Speaker 2: And we're gonna, I'm sure see more of that. So
Speaker 2: it's interesting two years ago and you talked to a
Speaker 2: million people and so probably don't remember, but like an
Speaker 2: hour after you were drafted, we had you on the
Speaker 2: show right here in Vegas, and I was giving you
Speaker 2: the sad sack Jet fan routine of like when's things
Speaker 2: one of the things is gonna get better? And you
Speaker 2: kind of cut me off, which I loved, and you're like,
Speaker 2: that's in the past, that's over, Like I don't care
Speaker 2: what happened before I got here. And of course then
Speaker 2: you and Garrett and us young Nucleus is coming together
Speaker 2: and you've made steps.
Speaker 3: Of course, still.
Speaker 2: There's been disappointment in the two years for the team,
Speaker 2: and the Rogers injury it was an all time blow
Speaker 2: for the franchise in terms of gut punch. Like I'm
Speaker 2: I'm usually an optimistic fan, but I'm worried about where
Speaker 2: things are and how things go moving forward. Could you
Speaker 2: do me the favor of spinning things and making me
Speaker 2: and Jets fans feel good about what's gonna happen this
Speaker 2: year and maybe this is the year things change.
Speaker 7: Make Dan happy, make him feel better or try.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you could.
Speaker 9: I mean, Aaron be Back defense, we're gonna do what
Speaker 9: we do, special teams, We're gonna do what we do.
Speaker 9: Like I said Aaron to b Back, would it be
Speaker 9: bring us new pieces in for the offense, and those
Speaker 9: new pieces gonna be great for the offense, great additions.
Speaker 9: We're gonna dominate.
Speaker 7: I feel it. I feel the confidence, all right, I
Speaker 7: felt it from day one and get there.
Speaker 6: Now you're working on a one game winning streak against
Speaker 6: the Patriots. I'm a Patriots fan, and so I remember
Speaker 6: the Jets Patriots game at the end of the season
Speaker 6: more than probably the average NFL fan who was not
Speaker 6: paying that close attention to that game, But at that
Speaker 6: point in the season, he kind of figured it was
Speaker 6: the end of Bill Belichick and so many things that
Speaker 6: happened for the first time in the Belichick era or
Speaker 6: a streaks ended. But the one thing he had left
Speaker 6: in life, the one thing he had left with the Patriots,
Speaker 6: was that winning streak against the Jets, and you took
Speaker 6: that away from him.
Speaker 7: How do you feel about doing that on his way out?
Speaker 3: Nice setup, Greg, Yeah, it feels great.
Speaker 9: You know what I'm saying, I'll be lying if I
Speaker 9: said that's not what we wanted to do, and that's
Speaker 9: not what our thought process was going into that game.
Speaker 9: We knew it could be the end of that Patriots
Speaker 9: era or whatever, so he had to make sure we
Speaker 9: sent them on his way the right way.
Speaker 6: But he's like a future Hall of Famer. Couldn't you
Speaker 6: have just like given him that much, that one little bit?
Speaker 9: I mean, he already a future Hall of Famer. You're
Speaker 9: a great coach, you know, he's always he's done great things.
Speaker 9: He won multiple Super Bowls. He knows so much about
Speaker 9: the game of football. So it's like doing that would
Speaker 9: have just been an extra little cherry on the top.
Speaker 9: It was no point of.
Speaker 2: I'm the Belichick point. So this is I think before
Speaker 2: you were even born. But when Belichick spurned the Jets
Speaker 2: and went to the Pats in two thousand and then
Speaker 2: went on, you know, the greatest run ever for a
Speaker 2: head coach and a quarterback with Brady. I've been scratched
Speaker 2: my head and yelling on microphone in the past couple weeks.
Speaker 2: I cannot believe all these head coach openings, nobody went
Speaker 2: and got Belichick and gave him a second bite of
Speaker 2: the apple like Brady got in Tampa. Are you surprised
Speaker 2: that he's not going to be coaching this year? How
Speaker 2: sure were you that he was going to pop up
Speaker 2: somewhere else and you might see him on the field
Speaker 2: next year.
Speaker 9: I don't really know because I don't know what going
Speaker 9: to all of that. You know, when it come to
Speaker 9: job openings, you know what they talk about with the
Speaker 9: other teams. You know, I'm sure those teams know that
Speaker 9: he's a great coach. He's a Hall of Fame caliber coach,
Speaker 9: you know what I'm saying. So I don't know why
Speaker 9: he wasn't selected. You know, that's not my place. I
Speaker 9: don't really know. I just know he's he's a great
Speaker 9: coach and wos the best in the future then get
Speaker 9: a job.
Speaker 4: Well, maybe he will down the road on the Jets front,
Speaker 4: because I feel like he probably have learned a lot
Speaker 4: in your first two seasons. And you know, in college,
Speaker 4: everything's going great, but you hit a team that's hit
Speaker 4: you know, Aaron Rodgers goes down right away. It seemed
Speaker 4: like two years in a row, you've got this glowing
Speaker 4: Jets defense and an offense that just was struggling.
Speaker 10: There.
Speaker 4: You don't you don't know if you're number one quarterback
Speaker 4: two times in a row, and it's like, how do
Speaker 4: how do you because there are a lot of reports
Speaker 4: come on in York. How does the locker room stay
Speaker 4: unified when the defense is doing one thing and the
Speaker 4: offense can't find their way? What have you learned about
Speaker 4: how to like not have the team completely be a
Speaker 4: sinking ship.
Speaker 9: I mean, we brothers before anything. What I'm saying the football,
Speaker 9: that's that's the game. That's what we love to do.
Speaker 9: But you know, the bards and the relationships that you
Speaker 9: make when you're going when you're coming into this game,
Speaker 9: when you're leaving the game. That's that's what matters the most.
Speaker 9: So it's easy to maintain that bond. You know, you
Speaker 9: get guys that's on defense that's closer with guys on offense.
Speaker 9: So it's just it's just that easy, you know, to
Speaker 9: keep the locker room, you know, keep the keep the
Speaker 9: bond in the brotherhood.
Speaker 6: So you were named first team All Pro this year,
Speaker 6: again doing that back to years to start your career.
Speaker 6: That's only been happened, you know, that's only happened a
Speaker 6: handful of times at that position, like in the history
Speaker 6: of the NFL. Usually it's team players from winning teams
Speaker 6: too that get recognized.
Speaker 9: So I think I think I was the first one.
Speaker 7: You're the first corner corner you're on it.
Speaker 9: I'm like one or three. I just found that out. Uh, Michael,
Speaker 9: Michael Parsons, Laura Taylor and me.
Speaker 6: An incredible uh achievement to start your career. Also incredible
Speaker 6: dexterity to keep giving guys like you know, dap them
Speaker 6: up as they're walking while you're doing the interview.
Speaker 3: You're also the first person ever do that on.
Speaker 9: This is the certain places I don't I don't really
Speaker 9: get to see too much so when I see him.
Speaker 6: Yeah, one of my all time favorite bikes. I didn
Speaker 6: want to ask you about the All Press, Like, what
Speaker 6: do you think you did this year specifically, maybe different
Speaker 6: than your rookie year and that set you apart where
Speaker 6: you got the nod over some great players like well
Speaker 6: Jerry Steve didn't get it. He's in this game, Charvaris.
Speaker 3: We didn't get it.
Speaker 7: Daily Scops didn't get it. What did you do that
Speaker 7: put you?
Speaker 3: You ahead?
Speaker 9: Just dominating? You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Greg, different, No, that's simple.
Speaker 9: Different when you dominated, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7: But you gotta added things to your game from your first.
Speaker 9: No, it does I do. I'm still finding ways to
Speaker 9: get better, you know, still find ways to get better
Speaker 9: for sure.
Speaker 3: Hey, before we say goodbye.
Speaker 2: One of our favorite segments with guests, we really get
Speaker 2: to know them as a little game. We call eight
Speaker 2: o'clock to Delight. It's a speed round, first thing that
Speaker 2: comes to your mind, and then we'll say goodbye.
Speaker 3: Hit it.
Speaker 2: Eric the producer, Spring or Fall, m Fall, Jersey Shore
Speaker 2: or the Hamptons, Jersey, Tarantino or Sor I don't know
Speaker 2: who that is, jay z or Nas jay Z Capel
Speaker 2: or Kevin.
Speaker 3: Hart friend.
Speaker 9: Friends?
Speaker 3: Are we alone in the universe?
Speaker 9: Are we hello? Are we alone?
Speaker 8: Like?
Speaker 3: Are there alien in this?
Speaker 9: I don't know? No? No, yes, let me say yes,
Speaker 9: because I don't want an alien to pop up, you
Speaker 9: know what I mean? Sometimes you gotta believe in stuff
Speaker 9: so they don't, you know, come and chill the taser
Speaker 9: believe The Jets switch to the throwback jerseys full time.
Speaker 3: I mean, come on right.
Speaker 9: I like that, but I do think we should have
Speaker 9: got some new ones and never line.
Speaker 7: I like that.
Speaker 3: Where's your defensive Brookie of the Year award? Right now
Speaker 3: at home in my game room?
Speaker 2: Favorite ice cream flavor Strawberry. What's the movie or TV
Speaker 2: series you've reword watch the most? I don't rewatch TV
Speaker 2: series interesting?
Speaker 3: Have you ever seen a ghost? Yes, we'll get back
Speaker 3: to that.
Speaker 2: Minigoal for play a team. Do the Yankees have enough
Speaker 2: starting pitcher depth? I have my doubts.
Speaker 9: I haven't got to watch the Yankees, but I'm huge
Speaker 9: fans of them.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: Pineapp pineapples are pizza on pizza. Yeah your nag I
Speaker 2: had it before it and is good. But no, are
Speaker 2: people inherently decent?
Speaker 9: People? Inherent me?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: There are people good at their heart?
Speaker 9: Yes?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 2: And the final oh would you try? And would your time.
Speaker 3: Travel if you could? Is it backwards or.
Speaker 8: All?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: And finally, this one's from my dad, Keith, who's been
Speaker 2: a jet spent since the name of days.
Speaker 3: Who is the toughest receiver to cover in the NFL?
Speaker 2: Right, I don't know.
Speaker 9: I can't have some. I can't. It's not just one
Speaker 9: because you got them all down. I can't just quote one.
Speaker 9: I had the name multiple?
Speaker 7: Do I name one name?
Speaker 3: Multiple?
Speaker 9: You got tyree? The farm there a lot, Okay, you
Speaker 9: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: They don't have a chance that the great Sauce Gardner saus.
Speaker 3: I can't wait.
Speaker 2: Next year, We're not going to be able to do
Speaker 2: this because you're gonna be playing in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: But the year after that, or maybe a couple of
Speaker 2: years down the line, we'll do this again. Thank you
Speaker 2: very much for having us, and have a great super
Speaker 2: Bowl weekend.
Speaker 9: Thank you.
Speaker 3: All Right, there here goes a Sauce Gardner.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I already do use that particular carrier,
Speaker 2: phone carrier.
Speaker 4: But you would have been convinced I might sign up
Speaker 4: again after Yeah, I think well, he's made it clear
Speaker 4: that the vast majority of NFL players, coaches, and fans
Speaker 4: use it, so.
Speaker 6: Well, he's only he's not wrong. I do not have
Speaker 6: a second phone. I have my NFL official phones that
Speaker 6: we have no choice. He doesn't have a burner, A
Speaker 6: beautiful it's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 3: Hey, you don't got no burner? No, that's good.
Speaker 6: It always makes me suspicious to the peoples, like you
Speaker 6: don't have a second was like, what's going on in
Speaker 6: your second film?
Speaker 2: I think the same thing, but people look at us
Speaker 2: like we're crazy. Anyway, that was good with Sauce. I
Speaker 2: wouldn't say that I now feel better. The cell about
Speaker 2: why things are going to be okay really boiled down
Speaker 2: to really what the Jets party line is, which is, well,
Speaker 2: Aaron's back and maybe that will be enough.
Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 6: I think Sauce is like what more do I need
Speaker 6: to do? I don't think he's the one going to
Speaker 6: be making the like huge speech before.
Speaker 7: It's not his spot.
Speaker 6: Just why don't you guys be as excellent as me
Speaker 6: and then we can be somewhere right.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, you go get a couple of right tackles,
Speaker 2: get another receiver and then let's see if we can
Speaker 2: not fall apart in horrific fashion. All right, we are
Speaker 2: just getting warmed up. We're going to take a break
Speaker 2: and when we come back, friend of the show Extraordinariy
Speaker 2: will join us. Welcome back, so scheduled guest Nick Shook.
Speaker 2: But Nick has run into some issues with getting through
Speaker 2: the masses and into radio row, so we do have
Speaker 2: a fallback plan.
Speaker 3: Sitting to my right is Dave.
Speaker 2: Ealy, news Editor, Chief news Editor NFL Media. Luckless in love,
Speaker 2: but a good man with a good heart. Dave, Welcome
Speaker 2: back to around the.
Speaker 8: NFL and also bald. So I feel like I'm covering
Speaker 8: for Shock as well. I noticed you push the mic.
Speaker 3: Up higher I got here, so I appreciate that. So
Speaker 3: not quite Nick, but I feel like you can fill in.
Speaker 4: I was approaching from a distance in saw a bald
Speaker 4: and white and I thought, well, that must be Shook,
Speaker 4: and then I realized just seeing the dimensions, and I'm
Speaker 4: not a tall person, so it's no knock on you.
Speaker 4: That is absolutely not Nick Shook. But what is happening
Speaker 4: in your in your love life?
Speaker 3: Really?
Speaker 5: I I want an update.
Speaker 8: We've only got a couple of minutes here. Wow, so
Speaker 8: we're just diving right to do it. I know, I
Speaker 8: knew we were not going to taugh football. Well, ka,
Speaker 8: before we get to that, I just want to give
Speaker 8: a little background. So I ran into Ely yesterday last night.
Speaker 8: That's called the NFL House.
Speaker 2: They invite all NFL Network and NFL media and NFL
Speaker 2: New York Office employees and uk UH to a venue
Speaker 2: and it's it's a nice scene. There was there was bowling,
Speaker 2: there were there was booze food, all that good stuff.
Speaker 3: You know, zuzzer.
Speaker 2: We had We had a meeting with some iHeart people.
Speaker 2: I had a couple of Tito's. Then we go to
Speaker 2: this event. I meet up with Handsome Hank and you know,
Speaker 2: I have a couple more. Then Dave rolls over with
Speaker 2: his posse, Dave and the Dave posse, and you know,
Speaker 2: you know how Dave does. Dave starts going to Dave.
Speaker 2: Dave's gonna Dave. Dave's one hundred percent Dave. And that's
Speaker 2: what we love about Ely.
Speaker 7: Got to be Dave.
Speaker 2: You know, all of a sudden, we have a conversation
Speaker 2: that I didn't recall until this morning, and I get
Speaker 2: a text about all right, So when am I coming
Speaker 2: on the show, and I had I had.
Speaker 3: I had apparently agreed to have Dave.
Speaker 2: On today's show, and then I had to let him
Speaker 2: know the bad news that Nick Shook who just walked by.
Speaker 2: So you're about to get bumped again, uh la. Later
Speaker 2: in the night, I contacted chuk Or Shook contacted me
Speaker 2: and he took your spot. But because Nick was late,
Speaker 2: you are now here to talk about anything you want.
Speaker 8: I mean, I thank you for letting me talk after
Speaker 8: what felt like a two minute introduction to go back
Speaker 8: to what was just to let you know. But yeah,
Speaker 8: Dan did agree around ten o'clock last night to have
Speaker 8: me on. Had no idea what he was talking about.
Speaker 8: When I texted him this morning and it was great.
Speaker 8: I did say, like, I guess, promises from ten pm
Speaker 8: at open bars don't mean anything.
Speaker 11: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of apologized. I wasn't blackout drunk. I
Speaker 2: just didn't remember the conversation very well. It kind of
Speaker 2: came and went and didn't stick around.
Speaker 6: And it's like any scheduling with talk Talk with Dan
Speaker 6: just assume he'll never remember it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess, so whatever.
Speaker 8: Yeah, the floor's mind.
Speaker 3: The floor was yours because Shook's here now.
Speaker 2: But I just want to say we've been kicking around
Speaker 2: some ideas for off season shows, and the idea of
Speaker 2: you know, finding ilia Mate would be I'll be near
Speaker 2: the top of the list for like a spinoff summer show.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think we'll wait till then for that update.
Speaker 8: I don't love finding ilia Mate as like the name
Speaker 8: of the show, but I think maybe we could workshop that.
Speaker 6: But yeah, how are things going? Because you're going full
Speaker 6: full Dave that the shirt you guys have said.
Speaker 8: You guys have said full Dave so much, I'm not
Speaker 8: just quite sure what that means. Maybe i'll take that
Speaker 8: answer off the air mark. Things are going fine in
Speaker 8: the love life department. I'm still single, but you know what,
Speaker 8: it's a jury.
Speaker 6: Those are two different things, right, So there's the options.
Speaker 6: You could go like half day, you go three quarters Dave.
Speaker 6: You've chosen to go full.
Speaker 7: Day to.
Speaker 5: Love that.
Speaker 3: I think we've reached.
Speaker 2: The Yeah, so we Dave, we have we have to
Speaker 2: bump you, not unlike how your college sweetheart had to
Speaker 2: bump you from her long term life plans and can
Speaker 2: didn't dive on that fumble and fifty Yeah, so thank
Speaker 2: you for joining us a.
Speaker 7: Super Bowl prediction really fast.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so.
Speaker 2: All right, thanks, thank you Dave for there he goes
Speaker 2: Dave Elee.
Speaker 3: That was a good appearance.
Speaker 2: I thought, by Dave, we're just gonna keep rolling.
Speaker 3: I love that feel. One of his best was that?
Speaker 3: Was that the best Eely performance?
Speaker 5: I don't know, it was pristine, it was, you know, concise.
Speaker 2: Come on, Nick, and now another bal Dwhite rolls over,
Speaker 2: this one different than the last.
Speaker 7: Also bearded, different stature.
Speaker 3: Here you go sitting down.
Speaker 2: With us now is none other than man, you're trying
Speaker 2: to get this pipe. Oh we got this pipe? Nick
Speaker 2: Shook now sits down with us. Yeah, and apparently Eli's short.
Speaker 2: He gause, this thing's way down here.
Speaker 3: EALI taking some fire here. We love Dave.
Speaker 2: He's one hundred percent Dave Shooky. So here's a great story.
Speaker 3: Was Shook.
Speaker 2: So last night I'm coming back from the hotel after
Speaker 2: I had agreed to have Dave on the show, and
Speaker 2: Shook hits me up and says, I'm at the hotel
Speaker 2: bar and you're not gonna believe this, but what.
Speaker 10: The pipe was within five to ten feet? Yeah, we're
Speaker 10: a little wobbly here. Of the pipe God, the namesake
Speaker 10: himself was right there, and I was frozen in time.
Speaker 3: I was actually gonna go somewhere else. I saw him.
Speaker 10: I was like, I can't leave, and then I was
Speaker 10: trying to muster up the courage. Wait, who is this Jr.
Speaker 2: Smith?
Speaker 3: Jr.
Speaker 2: Smith, the former Calves Nicks enter, probably five other teams.
Speaker 3: Great, who you know?
Speaker 2: He is the He is the original pipe And to
Speaker 2: see so two pipes in the same bar, right next
Speaker 2: to each other, feels dangerous.
Speaker 3: I never talked to him. I chickened out. I blew it.
Speaker 10: Why Nick, I don't want to be that guy who's like, hey,
Speaker 10: can I get a picture?
Speaker 7: You might need to do that, but you can just
Speaker 7: strike up a conversation.
Speaker 10: Well, the problem is I would have walked up and
Speaker 10: been like I was in downtown Cleveland for Game seven
Speaker 10: and twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3: You're my second.
Speaker 10: Favorite Cavaliet, like I would have just exploded with adoration.
Speaker 3: Would have been bad. It's like, how come you to
Speaker 3: know what the score was the year after that? Yeah?
Speaker 2: No, that would have been a bad one. That's George
Speaker 2: Hill's fault anyway, So Chooky, you are our boots on
Speaker 2: the ground, and thank you, because it's great to have
Speaker 2: someone here that is covering the teams. You're covering the
Speaker 2: Niners for NFL dot Com. Check out everything that Chook's
Speaker 2: writing up over there. What is your like overall vibe
Speaker 2: about what's.
Speaker 10: Going on around the NFC champions Well, everybody likes to
Speaker 10: talk about the rematch, but that was four years ago,
Speaker 10: and the Niners have been pretty quick to point out
Speaker 10: that was four years ago.
Speaker 2: A lot of things are different.
Speaker 10: But one thing that those returning players who were on
Speaker 10: that team have repeatedly said, there's two One is talent
Speaker 10: won't win this game, and whoever executes will win this game,
Speaker 10: who plays better. And the other one is they're all
Speaker 10: bent on washing away that feeling of losing. And you
Speaker 10: even had a guy like Javon Hargrave, who lost the
Speaker 10: Super Bowl last year to the Chiefs, same thing.
Speaker 3: We don't want to feel the same way we did
Speaker 3: the last time we got to the end of this game.
Speaker 10: I mean.
Speaker 4: So, the one feeling I get from the Chiefs is
Speaker 4: that you know, they've been here so many times, so
Speaker 4: many of the same players, Like there's this calm and
Speaker 4: ease and a sense of like we're just gonna do
Speaker 4: this and we're not concerned or isn't fear like do
Speaker 4: the Niners have because they I'd been up the upper
Speaker 4: echelon too. Do you sense that they also go in
Speaker 4: with that kind of calmness and serenity or do they
Speaker 4: Is there a little more pressure on them?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 10: I think actually I feel like they're not operating with
Speaker 10: very much pressure. There is a professionalism, a bit of it.
Speaker 10: We've been here before. What it is is there's less
Speaker 10: of a circus. You're still getting those you know, off
Speaker 10: the wall questions and everything else, but it's not it
Speaker 10: like it was if you followed a team that had
Speaker 10: been there for the first time in many years, and
Speaker 10: they're all really just happy to be here. They know
Speaker 10: the task at hand and what they have to do,
Speaker 10: and they also know that the challenge is very great
Speaker 10: and that this is a team that you know in
Speaker 10: the chiefs that people have not beaten in the last
Speaker 10: few times that they've been in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6: I hesitate to get too deep into the psychology of
Speaker 6: the team, because, look, it's it's fifty three players. It's
Speaker 6: forty five players on game day, and it's just a.
Speaker 5: Couple you don't believe in momentum things like I'm just saying.
Speaker 6: Like, it's very hard We've found this over the years
Speaker 6: to figure out which team is gonna play well based on.
Speaker 7: How they act during the week.
Speaker 6: But I do think there is something the forty nine
Speaker 6: ers potentially that they got over the hump in the
Speaker 6: NFC and games they were expected to win in games
Speaker 6: they didn't play well. I don't know whether to take
Speaker 6: that as like, Okay, they got past that, and you're
Speaker 6: right now they're in the biggest.
Speaker 7: Moment of their life.
Speaker 6: They got to it, and it's somehow almost a release
Speaker 6: to get past it, or to be more focused on
Speaker 6: the fact but to keep hitting, which is that their
Speaker 6: last three big games, yeah, they played not They didn't
Speaker 6: play to their best abilities, certainly on defense but even
Speaker 6: offensively in two or parts of all three of those games,
Speaker 6: they weren't at their very best.
Speaker 10: Yeah, that could go two ways. You could either say, look,
Speaker 10: we haven't even played well. We're playing with house money.
Speaker 10: You know, imagine if we actually put together a good
Speaker 10: game and do what we're supposed to do for four quarters,
Speaker 10: we should be able to win against anybody. But on
Speaker 10: the flip side, you also have that fear in the
Speaker 10: back of your mind of what if we lay out
Speaker 10: another clunker and this time we can't come back, we
Speaker 10: can't overcome the hole that we've dug ourselves in the
Speaker 10: first half. And that's gonna be the big test, because
Speaker 10: they're facing a team that has plenty of experience and
Speaker 10: knows exactly how to win these games.
Speaker 3: And if you think about.
Speaker 10: The psychology all the way back to Super Bowl fifty four,
Speaker 10: they were in a great spot to win that game
Speaker 10: before it all fell apart.
Speaker 3: Sure, so they have to avoid that as well.
Speaker 6: It didn't used to be a thing that there was
Speaker 6: a ten point come back in the fourth quarter of
Speaker 6: a Super Bowl. The Patriots against the c X were
Speaker 6: actually the very first, and then it happened a ton since.
Speaker 2: I mean, if he h's Manny Sanders Jimmy g it's
Speaker 2: a whole different story in that game. And the question
Speaker 2: for me part of this matchup is we've all been
Speaker 2: impressed by the Chief's ability to just kind of turn
Speaker 2: it on and get to this point. But even you know,
Speaker 2: when you look at the game by game here, there's
Speaker 2: still not the old Chiefs in terms of offense. And
Speaker 2: I'm wondering San Francisco's defense has been pretty disappointing down
Speaker 2: the stretch. I've been able to get by even with
Speaker 2: the struggles. How do you like the game from a
Speaker 2: matchup standpoint, Let's like focusing in more on the secondary
Speaker 2: and the coverage against the Chiefs wide receivers, and of
Speaker 2: course there's Kelsey, but like the ability to keep MBS
Speaker 2: from making the play that he's made the last couple
Speaker 2: weeks to really open up and and give the Chiefs
Speaker 2: that extra dimension that they've lacked so so much this season.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think it's really important that you point out,
Speaker 10: which you just did, that this is not the Chiefs
Speaker 10: team that we came to know a few years ago.
Speaker 10: They're not the super explosive team that they used to be.
Speaker 10: I think about that one hallmark play from fifty four
Speaker 10: Jet Chip Wasp where Tyreek gets open and Mahomes has
Speaker 10: enough time to run that play and it's a game changer.
Speaker 2: That's not this team anymore. They don't do that anymore.
Speaker 10: Mahomes is best in zero to ten air yards and
Speaker 10: the short pass is getting the ball out. So it's
Speaker 10: gonna be hard to kind of compare the two different situations.
Speaker 10: But if I assign confidence points because you look at it.
Speaker 10: I mean, nobody really knows which way this game is
Speaker 10: going to go. It's not like there's a heavy favorite
Speaker 10: in either way. But if I assigned confidence points of
Speaker 10: it and try to make sense of it, I feel
Speaker 10: the best about the Chiefs defense. I feel okay at
Speaker 10: best about the Chiefs offense. I feel all right about
Speaker 10: the Niners offense, especially if they get their momentum rolling,
Speaker 10: which I know you don't believe in, Greg, but we're
Speaker 10: going to talk about it anyway. And then the Niners
Speaker 10: defense they're talking about day have effort issues this week,
Speaker 10: that's concerning. So that's the unit I have the least
Speaker 10: confidence in. So I do still kind of side with
Speaker 10: the Chiefs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about that the thing and how that
Speaker 2: just that word, it's a it's an ugly little word
Speaker 2: is being thrown around. And is there a reality here
Speaker 2: where that their defense collapses here and with Mahomes leveling
Speaker 2: up and all of a sudden, Kelsey goes eleven for
Speaker 2: one seventy four and two touchdowns and it's another red
Speaker 2: and yellow confetti day. I think that's certainly possibility if
Speaker 2: you just look at the trending nature of the two teams.
Speaker 4: There's another world where like that being told about your players,
Speaker 4: like maybe writes the ship and like, but again we
Speaker 4: don't know how that actually works behind the scenes. But
Speaker 4: I do like the fact that, like the Chiefs are
Speaker 4: a defense that has been consistent. They're playing their best,
Speaker 4: Like they've allowed the fewest yards after the catch of
Speaker 4: any team in the league. That matters with against the Niners,
Speaker 4: that matters against Deebo Samuel.
Speaker 5: And it's a team that has gotten to the quarterback.
Speaker 4: And if you can get it, you know, Carloftis and
Speaker 4: Jones into brock Perty's.
Speaker 5: Bee house, I think you've got a bee high b
Speaker 5: house whatever.
Speaker 3: It'd be like, No, you had it right the first time.
Speaker 3: It's a bee house.
Speaker 4: It's one of those things you make doesn't really make
Speaker 4: sense ether if you make him uncomfortable. I mean, like,
Speaker 4: I think that when brock Perty's made mistakes, that's that's
Speaker 4: been a big factory mahomes is when he's thrown multiple interceptions,
Speaker 4: he's overcome that, Yeah, and they still won the game.
Speaker 4: It's like that who is party is in a different
Speaker 4: world when the mistakes start to occur.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I hate Keisha just called me live on the show,
Speaker 6: and I just thought this could be a chance for
Speaker 6: Lakeisha Westling to just like join the program. Now you're
Speaker 6: live on the NFL. Uh the Around the NFL podcast, Keisha?
Speaker 3: Right now?
Speaker 6: Okay, okay, love you talk later.
Speaker 3: Who's winning the game? Al Keisha, give us a score.
Speaker 7: And you gotta get over that.
Speaker 3: I would say, I'm gonna.
Speaker 7: Okay, that's all the analysis we need.
Speaker 3: Jeeves, Man, there it is, See you next week.
Speaker 7: Doctor later.
Speaker 3: Was nice.
Speaker 6: I just just felt like that would be nice to
Speaker 6: get her out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, set back to the cess dog point sess what
Speaker 2: you're saying, good year, No, it's.
Speaker 5: What we're saying, if you can.
Speaker 4: Just because I found it interesting that you had brock
Speaker 4: Purty at number seven in your QB Index and down
Speaker 4: at number nine was Mahomes And that flips the script
Speaker 4: from what some people think how this will play.
Speaker 5: Out who these quarterbacks are.
Speaker 10: But really, I got one more season, I got one
Speaker 10: more shot comes out next one.
Speaker 6: Well here's the thing, though, like you said, you're only
Speaker 6: so confident in the in the chiefs offense, Like I'm
Speaker 6: really impressed with what they've done throughout the playoffs. I
Speaker 6: mean they were fantastic, and that's all that matters to
Speaker 6: me at this point. They were fantastic against the Bills,
Speaker 6: they were excellent I think overall against the Dolphins, and
Speaker 6: they did show some vulnerability against the Ravens in the
Speaker 6: back half of that game where the blitz really affected
Speaker 6: Mahomes in a negative way. But I did think that
Speaker 6: the game script was a big part of that. I mean,
Speaker 6: they were throwing way short of the sticks on third
Speaker 6: down with a lead and being extremely conservative, and so
Speaker 6: that that's actually one of my big questions of this game.
Speaker 6: It's weird to say, but like, how aggressive will Patrick
Speaker 6: Mahomes be? Because I tend to think Steve Wilks is
Speaker 6: gonna look at that and he's gonna take some chances.
Speaker 6: It's not like they're just gonna be sitting back there
Speaker 6: in a shell coverage or anything. They're gonna go for
Speaker 6: some situations where they leave their guys in one on
Speaker 6: one situations. And will we get a little more of
Speaker 6: an aggressive Patrick Mahomes instead of just the taking a
Speaker 6: profit Patrick.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think that's the only way that you get
Speaker 10: an early control of this game, because you cannot afford
Speaker 10: to do what the Ravens allowed themselves the position that
Speaker 10: they got into in that game, which is Andy Reid's
Speaker 10: opening script basically worked to near perfection. The Chiefs dominated
Speaker 10: time of possession, they got the stops on defense, they
Speaker 10: had control of that game before the Ravens were able
Speaker 10: to adjust and shut down that offense.
Speaker 3: So the fort Ninders have to take it to them.
Speaker 10: They have to do what the Ravens do in the
Speaker 10: second half early and then playoff the adjustments from there.
Speaker 10: But I think, you know, even back to your point, Mark,
Speaker 10: what you said about brock Perdy is incredibly important to
Speaker 10: the value of Christian McCaffrey to this game, and I
Speaker 10: think Isaiah Pacheco as well. I think the running game
Speaker 10: is gonna factor way more into this than we're probably
Speaker 10: talking about, because.
Speaker 3: Of course it's a quarterback driven league.
Speaker 10: But I think if McCaffrey ends up making the impact
Speaker 10: on the groundbreaking tackles, you know, picking up extra yards
Speaker 10: and that sort of thing, that'll keep this offensive float
Speaker 10: against the Chiefs defense. It's done a really good job
Speaker 10: of womiting opposing quarterbacks. So even if perty's not on,
Speaker 10: if you can rely on McCaffrey heavily, then they'll have
Speaker 10: a fighting chance or even more than a fighting chance.
Speaker 2: And the side, I mean, the idea of McCaffrey getting
Speaker 2: what twenty five, twenty seven, thirty touches, it's all it's
Speaker 2: in play because they you know, he's so incredible, and.
Speaker 3: I just I love watching that guy play.
Speaker 2: You know, no one hearns just a zero to three
Speaker 2: yard gain or a seven to twelve yard gain like him.
Speaker 2: And he's I think almost it's a little under the
Speaker 2: radar like hit. His ability to maybe just go off
Speaker 2: and have you know, like that Marcus Allen type Super
Speaker 2: Bowl game, like that's certainly something I'm thinking about when
Speaker 2: I'm trying to decide who's gonna win this game.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: One other thing, like kind of circling back to Mahomes,
Speaker 2: who's been so good as a scrambler, and he's healthy
Speaker 2: this year. There's another bad ankle that he had in
Speaker 2: the playoffs last year. You know, Ken the Niners this
Speaker 2: you know the last time these teams played, which again
Speaker 2: is ancient history, but they did a nice job for
Speaker 2: most of that game messing with Mahomes and then he
Speaker 2: got loose and they had that nice comeback obviously to win.
Speaker 2: That are they gonna be able to keep Mahomes in
Speaker 2: check because that is the part of his game. Because
Speaker 2: he can't beat you deep in as much anymore. He's
Speaker 2: still an assassin inside the short yardage. But it's those
Speaker 2: runs that are ripping the hearts out, Like how the
Speaker 2: Niners do they have the personality think to handle that.
Speaker 3: Keep them chan It's the runs, it's the extension of
Speaker 3: the plays.
Speaker 10: It's not even that he has to cross the line
Speaker 10: of scrimmage, but just buy more time to throw. I mean,
Speaker 10: I looked at that third and five that they converted
Speaker 10: against Baltimore early in that game, where Travis Kelsey essentially
Speaker 10: ran a route that was equivalent to when you take
Speaker 10: your kid to a diner and you get the kids
Speaker 10: menu and it's a piece of paper and they give
Speaker 10: him crams and he just starts scribbling like that was
Speaker 10: the route that he ran, and they pulled it off
Speaker 10: with an incredible complete That's the.
Speaker 3: Stuff you really have to worry about.
Speaker 10: If you're worried about him actually getting out and running,
Speaker 10: you're in deep trouble. They do have the personnel for that, obviously.
Speaker 10: Fred Warner is a great linebacker all around, and he's
Speaker 10: good in coverage and he's fast enough, but he's not
Speaker 10: necessarily the eraser of a mobile quarterback that you might
Speaker 10: expect him to.
Speaker 11: Be, or one You're not gonna put a spy on Mahomes, right,
Speaker 11: He's not that. Yeah, but if you can take away
Speaker 11: his scramble and you already know the personnel they don't
Speaker 11: really have that deep game, then maybe you're in business.
Speaker 3: It's just it's an interesting see how combat it.
Speaker 4: It seems like Mahomes also because it's it's plays breaking down,
Speaker 4: it's out of pocket stuff, and he knows exactly when
Speaker 4: to go and where to go, and he leads the
Speaker 4: league in first downs on the ground. And like you
Speaker 4: think of other quarterbacks that Josh Allens is being like
Speaker 4: more dangerous on Tara Firma, But it is Mahomes that,
Speaker 4: like in these huge moments last year and this year,
Speaker 4: have done it with his feet when in the most
Speaker 4: critical third down moments and big yardish moments.
Speaker 2: I thought of it, by the way, not not beehive,
Speaker 2: it's kitchen.
Speaker 4: It's the I'm using beehive because he's back in this
Speaker 4: area where all these like enemies and things that can
Speaker 4: sting you were.
Speaker 2: Moving a horns nest and war the bolts are flying.
Speaker 5: I mean, creating a new term.
Speaker 3: I didn't know the kitchen.
Speaker 7: It just came to me.
Speaker 4: I mean obviously I went down a path that was
Speaker 4: you know, needed a little honeycomb.
Speaker 3: I like that. That's a little workshop.
Speaker 6: It feels like a sweet I do remember, you know
Speaker 6: when my cousin hit that beehive when we were back
Speaker 6: in the forest just looking looking back there when I
Speaker 6: was ten years old, and he didn't know he was
Speaker 6: swatting a beehive and it's not what you wanted to do.
Speaker 2: And he got he got stung by He.
Speaker 3: Don't give me a yeah.
Speaker 2: I wanted to say that's yes.
Speaker 6: But it really happened. And he got talking about twenty
Speaker 6: seven times. I got like two or three. My other
Speaker 6: cousin got three.
Speaker 3: Can run outside the funeral home and dan ackro after you.
Speaker 7: We just sprinted back.
Speaker 3: I has no idea what we're talking about.
Speaker 4: Escapes again, just two beast things. Twenty six for the cousin.
Speaker 7: Well, he's the one that hit it.
Speaker 6: So like you know, my running ability was a big
Speaker 6: factor that that game pushed back. And yeah, I do
Speaker 6: think the coach, the coaches with the willingness to stick
Speaker 6: with the run is a big deal. The most memorable,
Speaker 6: one of the most memorable moments of that AFC Championship
Speaker 6: game to me was when the Chiefs got to the
Speaker 6: six yard line in the second quarter and they just
Speaker 6: ran two inside runs in a row, a four yard
Speaker 6: run for Pacheco to the two and then a two
Speaker 6: yard run for a touchdown. It I was like, when
Speaker 6: was the last time we've ever seen the Chiefs do that?
Speaker 6: The second run was against ten men in the box. Yeah,
Speaker 6: there's like, oh, you can't ruin the books against eight.
Speaker 6: It's like you can if you're if you want to,
Speaker 6: if you're a good running team.
Speaker 7: They did it.
Speaker 6: And I think both of these teams, when you look
Speaker 6: at the opposing off defense, is that's the vulnerability. So
Speaker 6: Shanahan might have some regrets of how he handled his
Speaker 6: play calling in the Falcons Patriots Super Bowl. Reid's been
Speaker 6: knocked plenty for not sticking with it, and so I
Speaker 6: think that's just one issue, like who can just be
Speaker 6: comfortable and stay with it because we know these quarterbacks
Speaker 6: they just refuse to get sacked.
Speaker 7: So it's tempting to just throw the ball all the time.
Speaker 7: But I think that's the way you attacked it.
Speaker 10: I mean that even marks a change from last year's
Speaker 10: Super Bowl when the Chiefs got down on the goal
Speaker 10: line and they ran the same play in opposite directions
Speaker 10: and one of them was the wrong formation and still worked,
Speaker 10: and they scored two touchdowns that way. Like they didn't
Speaker 10: do that this time around. They trusted the run game.
Speaker 10: It's a bit of a throwback. That's them adjusting to
Speaker 10: the fact that they know they might not have the
Speaker 10: personnel to pull off what they were able to pull off.
Speaker 3: In previous years.
Speaker 4: One weird like they did play a year ago in
Speaker 4: the regular season and there's some connected tissue and some
Speaker 4: of it does not connect. But Chiefs forty four, forty
Speaker 4: nine Ers twenty three. The Chiefs ripped off six touchdowns
Speaker 4: on seven drives and it was close, but then the
Speaker 4: Chiefs went nuts at the end in the game. And
Speaker 4: that game, in the final three minutes is when brock
Speaker 4: perty entered to throw his first NFL passes are again.
Speaker 7: I like that that was kind of peak.
Speaker 3: Did you know it was also Christian McCaffrey's first game
Speaker 3: as a Niner.
Speaker 2: And did you know that Damn Darnold is the first
Speaker 2: quarterback in the class of twenty eighteen to make the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl.
Speaker 10: Okay, but now is that a backhanded shot at Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 3: Well, I saw that yesterday.
Speaker 5: Ye ain't here the probo MVP.
Speaker 3: Sammy look confident? Does he look ready to go in
Speaker 3: if if h Brock fails? Sam he looks content? He
Speaker 3: was like Teddy Bridgewater on the sideline for the lines.
Speaker 3: He's like, don't put me and.
Speaker 2: I'm good cool, I'm just happy to be here.
Speaker 3: Chook. Here we go.
Speaker 2: It's time for the Game of the Week, presented by DraftKings, and.
Speaker 7: I you know what should we choose?
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. It's it's up.
Speaker 2: There is no Pro Bowl game per se, but the
Speaker 2: kick Tac toe is pretty elite. Yeah, but we're gonna
Speaker 2: go with Super Bowl fifty eight.
Speaker 3: What do you think? Give us your pick?
Speaker 6: I thought I was Niners favored by two moneyline minus that.
Speaker 2: Movement a little bit out of the tic tac zone
Speaker 2: as they say, Oh, look.
Speaker 10: I talked about confidence points earlier, and that's really what
Speaker 10: I tried.
Speaker 3: To use to come to a conclusion on this. And
Speaker 3: I don't like to be the guy who's like they'd
Speaker 3: been here a million times. So they're definitely gonna be better,
Speaker 3: and that.
Speaker 10: Means you're gonna be But I'm kind of be that
Speaker 10: guy because look, the Chiefs offense was terrible for most
Speaker 10: of the season. They we had glimpses, and they weren't
Speaker 10: good until the playoffs. Like you said, Greg, that's all
Speaker 10: that matters. I feel confident enough in them that if
Speaker 10: they find themselves in a situation where it's twenty to
Speaker 10: twenty three, they're trailing by three, it's the fourth quarter,
Speaker 10: and Patrick Mahomes as the ball and he authors a
Speaker 10: couple of signature moments and they score a go ahead
Speaker 10: touchdown and it's Isaiah Pacheco running it in from seven
Speaker 10: or eight yards out, and it's twenty seven to twenty three.
Speaker 3: Chiefs. Over the nights, they do it again.
Speaker 7: They get it.
Speaker 3: I'm struggling with my pick.
Speaker 2: We're gonna make the rest of the heroes are gonna
Speaker 2: pick on Friday's program, And uh, you just gave me
Speaker 2: a lot.
Speaker 3: To think about.
Speaker 2: SHUCKI shoogy what you got going on the rest of
Speaker 2: this weekend?
Speaker 3: Soup? You got friends coming in? Anybody, Yeah, we're gonna have.
Speaker 10: Friends coming in, But we uh, we got some more
Speaker 10: coverage to finish up today.
Speaker 2: We got some stuff is up Tomorrow.
Speaker 10: We're gonna go head over to the Madden Bowl and
Speaker 10: watch the top two Madden competitors who are also best
Speaker 10: friends face off for the final championship game of their
Speaker 10: competitive series.
Speaker 2: Baby best friends. Yeah, this is like when the Mega
Speaker 2: Powers exploded.
Speaker 3: Macho ma.
Speaker 7: They're not NFL players anymore, the Madden Ball.
Speaker 10: Oh no, no, no, no, it's all like highly competitive
Speaker 10: esports kids. Greggie, come on, stupid good I've played them
Speaker 10: and they have destroyed me.
Speaker 6: I mean, I you know you don't need to come
Speaker 6: after me for my Madden bona fides. I covered the
Speaker 6: Madden Bowl in two thousand and eight for Patriots Giants,
Speaker 6: and it's just like it was the other guy at
Speaker 6: a bar. Yeah, it wasn't that big of a party
Speaker 6: and you got to sat down and do segments with
Speaker 6: I did a segment with Marshall Lynch. Wally played Madden
Speaker 6: in the Madden Bowl. So don't come at me with
Speaker 6: my Madden Bowl bona fides.
Speaker 2: Apparently you've you've put me in my place, and you're
Speaker 2: going to be at the Madden party as well.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm to stop by there on Friday, stop by
Speaker 10: you know weapons.
Speaker 2: If Killer Mike gets out of jail, we're gonna be
Speaker 2: able to Yeah.
Speaker 7: He's not he's out, never was in jail, just arrested.
Speaker 3: But the pr Greg Rosenthal, I'm just I like.
Speaker 6: To be factual. I like to double the double source
Speaker 6: my facts.
Speaker 7: Maybe you've gotten a little loose.
Speaker 2: With your Was he in jail?
Speaker 3: No, yes he was, he was the aimed.
Speaker 2: That's actually jail.
Speaker 3: Are you in jail in the back of the police car?
Speaker 5: On prison, you're tangling with the law though he was
Speaker 5: a cow.
Speaker 10: Words matter else, words matter, No, that's it. Words matter,
Speaker 10: And I'm happy to be here, happy to sit down.
Speaker 2: This is great.
Speaker 3: We've done it remotely all year. I love being in person.
Speaker 2: Yes, I was texting with the boys earlier that you're
Speaker 2: such an important part of our show every season on
Speaker 2: the Flagship Sunday program. So to be able to reunite
Speaker 2: in person and see the pipe up close by the way,
Speaker 2: you don't have.
Speaker 5: To cover Falcons bucks this time. You got a real game.
Speaker 3: The game of the week, not the f tier game.
Speaker 3: Eightier eightier baby, because there's only one left.
Speaker 2: Chokie back into the the huddled masses.
Speaker 3: You go, I'm gonna go fight my way out here.
Speaker 3: It took me allow to get down here.
Speaker 9: All right.
Speaker 2: And uh and don't you know, don't let Eely because
Speaker 2: Eely was throwing you under the bus a little bit.
Speaker 2: He said, oh he turned the wrong way, and let
Speaker 2: him know that.
Speaker 3: Lost.
Speaker 2: I was right outside.
Speaker 3: Had to walk all it down and around and upstairs.
Speaker 2: So just so you know next time you see him
Speaker 2: that sometimes you know he's he's not looking out for
Speaker 2: your best interest. So maybe if you have to say
Speaker 2: something face to face, this is the time for that.
Speaker 10: Is you know that that's a bald on bald betrayal.
Speaker 10: And I'm gonna have a long that's a hard thought
Speaker 10: think about that. Yeah, all right, very nice, Thank you,
Speaker 10: Nick Schuck. We'll take a break and we'll be back.
Speaker 3: With the Mad Dog.
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Speaker 7: Wow. Wow, wow, you saw that at me? There's thirty
Speaker 7: years ago. Oh my, I think that's a deep cut.
Speaker 2: Yes, and of course that is the voice of the
Speaker 2: great Chris mad Dog Russo. I stumbled upon on YouTube
Speaker 2: a clip of all the different stings from the old
Speaker 2: place of work, and I was looking for the one
Speaker 2: specific one that starts with Beware of the Dog, which
Speaker 2: didn't get as much run.
Speaker 7: You're right, it was a little bit like probably didn't
Speaker 7: like that one.
Speaker 3: We were were yeah, of.
Speaker 2: Course, we were just talking about you went to see
Speaker 2: you two, and I was talking about I'm a big fan,
Speaker 2: and they're playing some deep cuts. That would be the
Speaker 2: deep cut of the w FA.
Speaker 7: You have to be a pretty big fan to know
Speaker 7: the Beware the Dog was brought it out jingle that
Speaker 7: is again that has to be at least twenty twenty
Speaker 7: five years old.
Speaker 6: Oh that you found And I haven't seen Mark's face
Speaker 6: glow like that all week. You really cured mark sickness
Speaker 6: just by playing yea, yeah, i'ven't been feeling well Mark
Speaker 6: Mark line, but I.
Speaker 4: Would say that you know, it brings me the max
Speaker 4: to a childhood innocence.
Speaker 7: It's wonderful. So thank you, very good. Good to be
Speaker 7: with you guys again. So good and I'm.
Speaker 2: Doing We're doing great, Chris, because like and everyone now
Speaker 2: was talking about the Russo third act and everything we've
Speaker 2: been even the there was the first act better well, no, well,
Speaker 2: the there is a nostalgia factor. But I think we're all,
Speaker 2: as fans of yours, just so pumped up to see this.
Speaker 2: And I'm curious. I'm curious from a like a fame standpoint,
Speaker 2: because you know the you know the business better than anyone,
Speaker 2: like terrestrial radio. Back in the day w f AN,
Speaker 2: everyone was listening to you and the dog, and I'm
Speaker 2: sure you were gonna go out in public with that people.
Speaker 2: But now you're on this national platform, like are you
Speaker 2: more famous? You get recognized more now than you did
Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety.
Speaker 7: I know, I yes, I try not to make too
Speaker 7: big a deal about it, but you do notice it.
Speaker 7: From a first take standpoint, there's much more notoriety. I
Speaker 7: do a lot of things on first take that have
Speaker 7: been doing forever on the radio, and nobody's say anything
Speaker 7: forever on the radio, And I'm as an example, you know,
Speaker 7: the example would be play a shut up and play
Speaker 7: the game shut up and play. I said that a
Speaker 7: million times, really Steve really my and then I've said
Speaker 7: that a thousand times. There is a lot of them.
Speaker 7: You know my old sayings, you know my rants, you
Speaker 7: know the pauses, you know I used to I probably
Speaker 7: put the pregnant pause in there. There's a lot of
Speaker 7: little examples which I've always I'm using now that I've
Speaker 7: always used and now people, wow, look at that. I've
Speaker 7: never heard of somebody do that before. Donut since nineteen
Speaker 7: eighty nine. Right of course, now they've picked up on it.
Speaker 7: Saw's resort, you get noticed a loumit bore.
Speaker 2: Chris mad Dog rus So headlines the Mad Dog Sports
Speaker 2: Radio channel and Sirius XM, and hosts the channel's anchor program,
Speaker 2: Mad Dog Unleashed weekdays three pm Eastern, two pm Central
Speaker 2: noon Pacific. You can also see him on an MLB
Speaker 2: network's High Heat. And of course, as you just said
Speaker 2: ESPN's first take, I think when I kind of watched
Speaker 2: the arc of the Russo career, which is now like,
Speaker 2: let's be honest, you want to talk about like Mount
Speaker 2: rushmore like in terms of longevity and you are at
Speaker 2: a high level. I think what surprises people? And I think, Mark,
Speaker 2: what makes Chris have the successes.
Speaker 3: You're so real. That is who you are people people are.
Speaker 2: It's authentic, and the authenticity especially in not to take
Speaker 2: any shots, it's like that genre. There's so much of
Speaker 2: it is at play acting and you're saying things you
Speaker 2: maybe don't believe. But I know when when you're you're
Speaker 2: faced up on the camera like Bono on the Zoo
Speaker 2: TV tour, like you are being yourself, I think that
Speaker 2: really matters. And like when we talk about the announcers
Speaker 2: like Romo when he had his big rise and Olsen
Speaker 2: who gets a lot of pop outs because they authentically
Speaker 2: love the game, and you hear that as well. You
Speaker 2: can't fake that.
Speaker 7: Stuff now one hundred percent. The gummies is a perfect example.
Speaker 7: I say that gummies and that's not embellishing it. The
Speaker 7: gummies are real and you say that people. It's relatable
Speaker 7: to people. And I think that is probably the key
Speaker 7: to this little run here is the fact that I
Speaker 7: say things that the average person wishes he could say
Speaker 7: or do, and I say it for them, and I
Speaker 7: say things that they're uncharacteristically they don't then necessarily listen to.
Speaker 10: Now.
Speaker 7: I said that on F A N and I said
Speaker 7: that on Sirius for one hundred years now, I say
Speaker 7: eight on the TV. It gets virus viral, it gets
Speaker 7: the clips and if you get involved with ESPN, you
Speaker 7: get in that machine and they churn it out so
Speaker 7: they you can't miss it. But not Gummys before first day, No, no,
Speaker 7: definitely not. You have to be contract I don't care
Speaker 7: any you have to be sharp to be you can't.
Speaker 2: Work at NFL network. And I love he's a great kid.
Speaker 2: The Mali expression or whoever else you're with us, whether
Speaker 2: Steven a Smith are just.
Speaker 7: Like they look at me really Christmas. But you're gonna say, now,
Speaker 7: I've gotten in jubble a couple of times. But they
Speaker 7: for the most part allow you to do what you
Speaker 7: want to do. And you know, the other key to
Speaker 7: the whole thing relatedbile relatability is one passions the other thing,
Speaker 7: you know, I still enjoy it. You know, I still
Speaker 7: love watching the game, and I watched the games regardless
Speaker 7: of working or not. I would still watch the games.
Speaker 7: That's a big factory.
Speaker 4: Like before we get into this game, there was an
Speaker 4: incredible rant that you had a couple of weeks ago
Speaker 4: coming out of the Chiefs RAVENSFC title lost for Baltimore,
Speaker 4: where you know, like Greg is part of what you'd
Speaker 4: call the Lamar me and a lot of people see
Speaker 4: him as like the MVP, and I see that. I
Speaker 4: grew up a Browns fan, so I have some issues
Speaker 4: with the Ravens to begin with. But that experience in
Speaker 4: that playoff game with Lamar Jackson, you seemed irked by
Speaker 4: what happened there, and I thought you spoke from the heart,
Speaker 4: and it's like, I think you connected with me in
Speaker 4: my own I rate anger about the whole thing and
Speaker 4: how the season ended up for the Ravens.
Speaker 7: Let's go that's funny too. I thought you were gonna
Speaker 7: say Campbell because I did that thing with the field
Speaker 7: goals with him, which got a lot.
Speaker 2: Of you're right.
Speaker 3: See.
Speaker 7: The thing that bother me about Lamar is, remember I work.
Speaker 7: When you work on an ESPN, they oh love Lamar.
Speaker 7: He's the greatest thing in the world. And he had
Speaker 7: won two playoff games. So I will go the exact
Speaker 7: contrast to that, because I want to say, oh no, no,
Speaker 7: let's not put him in. When Shannon Sharp said, you know,
Speaker 7: he wins this Super Bowl, he's going to be one
Speaker 7: of the all time greats. Shannon take it easy. First off,
Speaker 7: he hasn't won the two games yet. And you know
Speaker 7: he has one Super Bowl? Does it make it one
Speaker 7: of the he has quarterbacks of all time? And then
Speaker 7: he lays an egg. He no, Listen, they had a
Speaker 7: lot of issues in that game. He wasn't all of it.
Speaker 7: They flowers fumbled, they were on discipline, the charger the
Speaker 7: chief scored first possession, so it wasn't all him. But
Speaker 7: he didn't do anything in the game to rescue his
Speaker 7: team from their demise. And that's what a great quarterback
Speaker 7: has to do. A great quarterback has to recognize. All right, now,
Speaker 7: they pay me forty million. We were down seventeen to ten.
Speaker 7: We haven't played well. I got to do a job here.
Speaker 7: I got to get this team down the field, get
Speaker 7: some first downs, stabilized the stabilize everything. And he didn't
Speaker 7: do that. And he hasn't been able to do that
Speaker 7: in the big game. And that is the reason why
Speaker 7: when people put him on this unbelievable level, I get
Speaker 7: turned off on it. You know, think about it. He's
Speaker 7: not better than Burrow, He's not better than Josh Allen,
Speaker 7: He's not better than Mahomes. He's probably not better than
Speaker 7: Matthew Stafford. Right Stafford's this year, but Stafford was great.
Speaker 7: And then Stafford against against the Lions was tremendous. He
Speaker 7: was heroic in the game. How he won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 7: If I asked you right now, the biggest game of
Speaker 7: your life, if you want Matthew Stafford or you want Lamar,
Speaker 7: you're taking Matthew Stafford. You have to seventy yards against
Speaker 7: the Lion. You have to.
Speaker 6: This is a tough one because I love me some
Speaker 6: Stafford and thought he was a top three m VP
Speaker 6: pick this year and wasn't getting a lot of love.
Speaker 6: When I rewatched that Lamar game, I realized just how
Speaker 6: poorly he played, Like watching the coaches film and seeing
Speaker 6: it again and taking the emotion out of it. That
Speaker 6: my reaction to the game was partly what what you
Speaker 6: guys just said, which is there was a lot going on,
Speaker 6: and there was, of course that was true, but it
Speaker 6: was also his worst game of the year. He was
Speaker 6: even more of a disaster. I thought, you watch worse
Speaker 6: than I thought. I thought he was even worse than
Speaker 6: I thought. And I'm a huge fan, and that's a
Speaker 6: tough spot for him because that's just how the playoffs are.
Speaker 6: But I also just think he's a two time MVP
Speaker 6: as a twenty six year Part of the reason everyone
Speaker 6: loves him is because there's never been anyone like him.
Speaker 6: He's the greatest running quarterback in the history of the league.
Speaker 6: And he's gonna have to adjust his game because he's.
Speaker 7: No longer that guy. If he was that guy still,
Speaker 7: he would have.
Speaker 6: Scored on that on that play in the divisional round
Speaker 6: where he got free a little bit, you might have
Speaker 6: had a bigger run when he caught his own catch. Like,
Speaker 6: he doesn't have the exposit, so he's gonna have to
Speaker 6: just But he's twenty six years old, and I just
Speaker 6: get sick of these great players in the middle of
Speaker 6: their career having this same art like conversation over and over,
Speaker 6: and then they inevitably do win the title and they
Speaker 6: do play better until because it's not inevitable, but it's.
Speaker 7: The same players over.
Speaker 6: Like we had it with Lebron, we have it with
Speaker 6: Dirk Nowitzki, we have it with a million You had
Speaker 6: it with pulpri like you have it with a billion
Speaker 6: different people who eventually get over. People thought Matthew Stafford
Speaker 6: was one of the most overrated quarterbacks. And it's like
Speaker 6: and it's like they don't talk about him like that
Speaker 6: so much when it's actually happening.
Speaker 7: And understand there is an arc to his career.
Speaker 6: And he's a twenty six year old who I believe,
Speaker 6: because he's in that organization, is going to get chance
Speaker 6: after chance after chance, and one of those it's gonna.
Speaker 7: Turn out different.
Speaker 6: Maybe he won't even play that well in it, like
Speaker 6: Peyton Manning didn't play that well in his when in
Speaker 6: Super Bowl in two thousand.
Speaker 7: Never brings that up. They're going to take it to me.
Speaker 6: You you measure quarterbacks by sixteen game samples. I think
Speaker 6: that's the best way.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I got to measure them in what
Speaker 7: they're do in a big game. That's all. Now the
Speaker 7: problem that Lamar has. You know, Mahomes is not going anywhere,
Speaker 7: nor is Josh Allen nors Burrow, Yes, and he's not
Speaker 7: as good as those speak guys. Stroud too is now,
Speaker 7: Rodge another one, good job, Strouds another one, and Herbert
Speaker 7: you know with hardball there he's gonna he's good.
Speaker 2: Say Aaron Rodgers to make the Jets go, I will
Speaker 2: say that good for you.
Speaker 3: I'll put the Jets.
Speaker 7: So you can make an argument that the beginning of
Speaker 7: next year in the AFC, you could take five or
Speaker 7: six quarterbacks ahead of them. You could take the Big
Speaker 7: three Big three, no issues, and then Rogers is four.
Speaker 7: And what's the well Alan Burrow and Mahomes. He's not
Speaker 7: as good as Josh.
Speaker 6: Allen, No way, Burrow's got to stay on the field
Speaker 6: if Lamar Jackson missed half of his career.
Speaker 7: So here's the thing about Borrow four seasons Burrow, Burrow
Speaker 7: beat Mahome on the road.
Speaker 3: Yep, that to me.
Speaker 6: But Burrow was another example like people like that first
Speaker 6: playoff run Burrow had, he didn't play that well.
Speaker 7: He actually struck.
Speaker 6: That was his worst three game stretch of the year
Speaker 6: was the AFC playoffs, and he made the Super Bowl.
Speaker 7: So it's it's a team got a little unfair.
Speaker 2: You're right, because we Burrow doesn't carry that around because
Speaker 2: the team the field goal kicker went nuts and they
Speaker 2: had the Super Bowl.
Speaker 7: Like he played so won a championship game, a championship
Speaker 7: in college too.
Speaker 3: I think that.
Speaker 7: Carries into it a little bit as well. And I
Speaker 7: know he had an l SHU. He had a great team,
Speaker 7: but he was great in college and hey, dony Be,
Speaker 7: any one against Saban and Tua in Alabama scored forty
Speaker 7: five points. I think that comes into the you know,
Speaker 7: the feeling when you think of Burrow is maybe he
Speaker 7: is played quite as well and you look at it
Speaker 7: down deep as the record with Deicate, but you think
Speaker 7: he's played great because he's had big games.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 3: It's kind of funny.
Speaker 2: It's like that thing where you're watching the TV inside
Speaker 2: the TV, inside the TV. It's when Greg and I
Speaker 2: both in during that conversation, go that's fair, that's fair,
Speaker 2: and it's.
Speaker 7: Like, Chris, that's I say that. I say a lot
Speaker 7: of those wacky things.
Speaker 3: So we listened to you so many years that that's
Speaker 3: just ingrained in my head.
Speaker 2: Oh that's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 7: I do say that. Oh, let's be honest. Mike used
Speaker 7: to say let's be honest all the time. I say
Speaker 7: that too, too, But I do like, uh, I'm going
Speaker 7: to take Kansas City in this game because I'm going
Speaker 7: to take my homes and read over Shanahan and Purty.
Speaker 7: I'm the kicker. That kicker is a good kicker. Talk
Speaker 7: we were talking about yesterday stinks and I close game. Berk.
Speaker 7: He know miskicks this, but is it? He's incredible and
Speaker 7: bad weather two and fifteen minus fifty degree weather. He
Speaker 7: goes out there and mixed kicks. I like him. I
Speaker 7: think the Chiefs want a.
Speaker 3: Close game, all right.
Speaker 2: Before we let you go, Chris, we always need to
Speaker 2: dig in on what what's Chris washing?
Speaker 9: What?
Speaker 2: There's more the rue so especially you know the gumpanies
Speaker 2: get popped? Uh, Mark, you had you had heard something
Speaker 2: around Chris. You guys share a passion for something.
Speaker 4: Well, Dan and I along had a you know, debate
Speaker 4: and ongoing debate about.
Speaker 5: The JFK assassination.
Speaker 4: Oh geezu all right, and you know we're with our
Speaker 4: heart radio and we know that Rob Reiner.
Speaker 7: Did at the JF I had and I had him on.
Speaker 5: Well, that's just kind of wondering.
Speaker 4: There's also this thing floating out there where they have
Speaker 4: duo pictures of Rock Party with various pictures of Lee
Speaker 4: Harvey Oswald, like there are places where they do so.
Speaker 5: I was just sort of wondering with the whole Some.
Speaker 2: People think Rock Party is a patsy, so you know there, well,
Speaker 2: there you go, where are you with the whole.
Speaker 5: JFK and Oswald's.
Speaker 7: Birthday is the same as mine ten eighteen.
Speaker 5: Really, yes, but where are you with the whole?
Speaker 7: Where are you on the I mean the Rhiner podcast
Speaker 7: is excellent. I haven't heard the last two yet. There
Speaker 7: is no doubt in my mind if anybody thinks for
Speaker 7: one second that that Lee Harvey Oswood, there is evidence
Speaker 7: that he may have not even killed that cop. I
Speaker 7: tip it outside that that movie theater, there's evidence you
Speaker 7: did you know that they found two wallets and the
Speaker 7: police both said they were Lee Hovey Oswold's who you
Speaker 7: found two wallets? They found one at the scene at
Speaker 7: the at the thing at the at the movie theater,
Speaker 7: and they found one in the in the depository. I mean,
Speaker 7: come on to watach. This was with a lot of
Speaker 7: money and he was he was a CIA operative.
Speaker 4: Well, there's a picture of him so called in a
Speaker 4: CIA file down in like Well, there's another one overseas
Speaker 4: and it's basically like the double of Mike Ditka that
Speaker 4: they're trying to tell us a Lee Harmis was a mustachioed,
Speaker 4: heavy set man, and that they're passing.
Speaker 5: It off as Lee Harvey's dad.
Speaker 7: I need to remember again, if anybody says, I don't
Speaker 7: believe Oswald did it by himself, if you have to
Speaker 7: answer me, this was one question. Okay, why did Jack
Speaker 7: Ruby kill him? Doctor? We didn't kill him because he
Speaker 7: was trying to prevent dismay for the Jacqueline Kennedy and
Speaker 7: the Kennedy's. I feel bad for him.
Speaker 3: The Ruby situation is that that's fair. That's fair.
Speaker 2: I have to say my stance has been and Mark
Speaker 2: hates it, and you do as well. I'm sure now
Speaker 2: that someone and I don't know where Greg stands on this,
Speaker 2: but we're gonna hear from Greg on the two. But
Speaker 2: there's something destabilizing to us as Americans, to society to
Speaker 2: think someone so inconsequential as Oswald can change the world
Speaker 2: with it with a shot from the depository. So in
Speaker 2: your nature is to say, well, no, that couldn't be it.
Speaker 2: It has to be a larger conspiracy because the president's
Speaker 2: president of the United States. This is one of the
Speaker 2: most powerful men in the world and a special person.
Speaker 3: I named my son after John Kennedy.
Speaker 10: Jack.
Speaker 3: But I understand there's there's like this, is.
Speaker 7: There someone in the GRESSI hall, I think there were
Speaker 7: you know Ryaner thinks there's about three or four shooters.
Speaker 7: You know the Warren Commission nineteen seventy six. You know
Speaker 7: who ran that Warren Commission, Alan Dulles. He was in
Speaker 7: charge of all the information they received. You know, Alan
Speaker 7: Dallas is the guy that Kennedy fired for the Bay
Speaker 7: of Pigs. Now, how the hell is Alan Donald of war?
Speaker 7: I mean, how is he the guy that is doing
Speaker 7: the Warren Commission who in nineteen sixty four said that
Speaker 7: Leavis was an only show. There's too much smoke there
Speaker 7: to think they did it by himselves. Okay, well I
Speaker 7: have you disagreed? Go ahead, and Greg No, I don't.
Speaker 5: I thinks Lamar Jackson did not do in Yeah.
Speaker 6: I don't have a take on this because I'm uninformed
Speaker 6: regrettably in general about this topic. But I do have
Speaker 6: a It's not a conspiracy. It's something that I've done
Speaker 6: some reporting on myself. Dan likes to think of himself
Speaker 6: as the ATN media insider. If I am, and I
Speaker 6: have sources in this very building that tells me Chris
Speaker 6: mad Dog Russo was involved in what we'll call an
Speaker 6: incident yesterday.
Speaker 7: Coming into the building. I was where he was very upset.
Speaker 6: I was that they were trying to take the tags
Speaker 6: off of his job backpack.
Speaker 7: Did you hear about this? And I want to hear
Speaker 7: what happened here?
Speaker 9: Was?
Speaker 7: Can you confirm this? What red that brown bag right
Speaker 7: dare that you see is a bag that I've had
Speaker 7: for a long time. The little those little tags there
Speaker 7: at the top, there's yellow and green tags. I've had
Speaker 7: that bag for twenty five years, and so a lot
Speaker 7: maybe twenty years. A lot of the tags I had
Speaker 7: on that bag were from events that I had been
Speaker 7: that why the World Series, super Bowl, so they had
Speaker 7: a little sentimental value. Yeah, I bought the bag Monday.
Speaker 7: Nobody says it work. I come in Tuesday and the
Speaker 7: guys there at the X ray machine, well we gotta
Speaker 7: take the tags off. I said, what you got to
Speaker 7: Why you gotta take the tags off? Well, we gotta
Speaker 7: take them off. Were assigned to him. So why didn't
Speaker 7: you take him off yesterday? If you would have told
Speaker 7: me that, I would have left the bag here today
Speaker 7: and not bought the bag. Well we got so they
Speaker 7: grabbed scissors and they start cutting cutting the tags.
Speaker 3: Shot.
Speaker 7: So I was upset and I gave them and I
Speaker 7: never do this. I gave them one of those don't
Speaker 7: you watch first take deals? Who gave I.
Speaker 3: Hate that you had them on a don't you know
Speaker 3: who I am?
Speaker 7: And answer was not thoughts. Result, I got my bag.
Speaker 7: I got my bag, TEGs cut matter ifact have all
Speaker 7: the tags and the compartment there. I was gonna use
Speaker 7: it yesterday as a what I'm mad about segment, but
Speaker 7: I didn't get around to it. But I was annoyed,
Speaker 7: and I noticed in the last two days they didn't
Speaker 7: have anybody cutting with the scissor. There was nobody there
Speaker 7: doing that on Wednesday and Thursday. Yet there were Tuesday,
Speaker 7: which I can't understand. So my little pigs and I've
Speaker 7: had on that don't be big for twenty years, fifteen
Speaker 7: or eighteen of them, World Series, NBA Finals, US Open.
Speaker 7: You know they put the tag out and go through
Speaker 7: the X machine with a little baked the little take
Speaker 7: on it. All of them are gone. So that's football.
Speaker 7: I me, Greg, good job on your part. This isn't exclusive.
Speaker 7: I was good. You know that you did not.
Speaker 2: I got scooped on that one. I didn't want to
Speaker 2: tell them that's good, good job. Well, and that guy
Speaker 2: has been fired now, so I wonder what he does next.
Speaker 7: I hope he wasn't. And that's somebody said, Chris, really,
Speaker 7: you're making a big deal about your stupid tags. And
Speaker 7: it only was five minutes. Greg caught the bad five minutes.
Speaker 7: I deserve it. I have to give him the credit.
Speaker 3: For digging it up. There. You got job, Greg, You're
Speaker 3: a muckrakers? What you are?
Speaker 7: I was not there?
Speaker 5: Per journalism?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 7: You guys have been doing this show a long time?
Speaker 7: How long?
Speaker 3: This is season eleven?
Speaker 7: This is you want what once a week during the season,
Speaker 7: or once have you had the game? Or five days
Speaker 7: a week?
Speaker 3: We do what? Five shows a week?
Speaker 6: Five shows a week during the season, five shows other
Speaker 6: digital Sunday nights, you know, after the games, we got
Speaker 6: a show Monday night after after the primetime games, we
Speaker 6: have a show and then a couple.
Speaker 2: And if you want an NFL Plus subscription, we can
Speaker 2: get that to you. Two shows a week.
Speaker 7: You'll work Sunday night and Monday night and then two
Speaker 7: other shows doing a week Tuesday Thursday. How about when
Speaker 7: it is a Saturday game at the end of the year,
Speaker 7: you work those ninety two Detroit Dallas on New Year's
Speaker 7: on New year's eve, did you me?
Speaker 2: Those are those are tough and we got you got
Speaker 2: young kids and everything. These holidays. They keep on building
Speaker 2: out the schedule. A lot of mouths to feed for
Speaker 2: the NFL.
Speaker 5: Season though, two four shows a week during the.
Speaker 7: Office crank good for you? How many How long is
Speaker 7: each show getting longer?
Speaker 3: Sixty to eighty minutes. That's a hell of a job.
Speaker 7: That's a good effort.
Speaker 2: Thank you, and it does sincerely mean a lot coming
Speaker 2: from you.
Speaker 3: That's true. I mean the tag incident that that the
Speaker 3: button your reputation. We're now restoring it right now.
Speaker 2: All right again, check out mad Dog on Serious and
Speaker 2: everywhere else where. He is blown up. He's a superstar
Speaker 2: and we're happy to have you every year. It's a
Speaker 2: great you guys do a great job. What do you
Speaker 2: like in the game.
Speaker 5: We have to we have to announce it tomorrow.
Speaker 7: Matter.
Speaker 3: I can't say I picked I picked the.
Speaker 4: Chiefs Niners before the year and picked the Niners to
Speaker 4: win off a pick six in the final two minutes.
Speaker 5: And so that's where I'm going.
Speaker 7: He's saying, I gotta forgetting it. I have the Chiefs
Speaker 7: twenty three to seventeen. All right, you Madcot. Thank you.
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back, and I mean mad Dog is
Speaker 2: the best, also the best if you are a football fan,
Speaker 2: if you love the game, in the history of the game.
Speaker 2: Just looking over my right shoulder and there he is
Speaker 2: Doug Williams Super Bowl twenty two MVP, the first black
Speaker 2: quarterback to win a Super Bowl. Unbelievable story to him.
Speaker 2: Just it's everywhere, it's all around us.
Speaker 4: It's almost like if you lived in a land with
Speaker 4: only hot people, hot people aren't hot anymore because like
Speaker 4: everywhere you turn there's like an NFL icon walking by
Speaker 4: about and then then a second, then a third, and
Speaker 4: it's like it's almost over so insative oversensatory explosion.
Speaker 6: I was almost nine years old for that Super Bowl,
Speaker 6: and that's the first one I really remember when it happened.
Speaker 6: And that actually is a good example. And I think
Speaker 6: I thought I thought it at the time too, like
Speaker 6: blowouts can be entertaining, because I remember when that was
Speaker 6: happening and thinking like this is crazy, this is great.
Speaker 7: Touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, and it was just like this this
Speaker 7: fire show.
Speaker 3: It's a good and surprise.
Speaker 2: It's a good topic because I remember I was seven
Speaker 2: and I was not young enough to be plugged in.
Speaker 2: But I remember running through the living room with my
Speaker 2: cousin Matt, and my uncle Bob and my dad were
Speaker 2: watching the game and the Broncos were up ten nothing yeah,
Speaker 2: and then we and then we came back in from
Speaker 2: outside or whatever we were, and all of a sudden.
Speaker 3: It was like thirty five to ten.
Speaker 2: Well it was I think I saw at thirty five
Speaker 2: in the second order that broke back.
Speaker 7: That's what it was. Where that blow that quarter was
Speaker 7: so exhibited.
Speaker 4: In a room like Timmy Smith, the running back who
Speaker 4: had been a non factor coming over. But I will
Speaker 4: tell you one thing, I watched that game in horror
Speaker 4: because it was two weeks before that the Broncos in
Speaker 4: the drive, the drive, No, the fumble was the fumble,
Speaker 4: and so it was like I'm watching the Broncos get
Speaker 4: the doors blown off, thinking like, wait a minute, right,
Speaker 4: the Cleveland Browns could have taken this team.
Speaker 2: So anyways, anyway, and then the first one I remember
Speaker 2: truly watching was Bengals Niners, and I'll always remember like
Speaker 2: thinking was really cool that I was watching.
Speaker 3: With my dad.
Speaker 2: And then the the start of the Bud Bowl. That
Speaker 2: was the first Bud Ball commercials, which I was, like
Speaker 2: as invested in the bud ball as I was him
Speaker 2: Crumbrise broken leg, which was right. They almost pulled it
Speaker 2: off Cincinnati. Anyway, mad Dog was an excellent guest. You
Speaker 2: knew he was going to be Greg. I got to say,
Speaker 2: that was incredible reporting, and it is on brand.
Speaker 3: You took the risk to bring.
Speaker 2: It up, you know know how it's gonna go because
Speaker 2: that was a moment and he was acknowledging Chris, So
Speaker 2: that was kind of diva behavior. He's fired up, but
Speaker 2: it was something that had to be uncovered. That's the
Speaker 2: that's the job of a true journal So I respect that.
Speaker 6: He doesn't strike me as a guy who takes things
Speaker 6: like too personally, you know what I mean, Like he's
Speaker 6: gotta he's gotta fire back, he's gonna have.
Speaker 7: Fun with it.
Speaker 4: I was watching his you know, facial expression as Greg
Speaker 4: was telling that story and didn't seem to like too disturbed.
Speaker 4: It could be his last appearance on the show, and
Speaker 4: that would be I Greg.
Speaker 3: We'll find out next year. This is an incredible sauce
Speaker 3: dog spectacular.
Speaker 2: I mean, I wouldn't say they both had the same
Speaker 2: level of energy.
Speaker 3: Between Sauce and Chris russeo.
Speaker 2: But different vibes, different vibes, different people places in their lives,
Speaker 2: but both Titans and their respective genres.
Speaker 3: All right, And by the way, what do you sstog?
Speaker 3: What are we doing? What are we doing this business?
Speaker 3: You picked.
Speaker 2: The super Bowl before the season?
Speaker 5: I picked it correctly.
Speaker 3: Why are why are.
Speaker 2: We hearing that as a comment made off the cuff
Speaker 2: in the middle of that interview. I would have loved
Speaker 2: to lead with that all week. That's that's that's branding, baby.
Speaker 5: I mean two things. I was alerted to it.
Speaker 4: I didn't even remember I picked that, And then people
Speaker 4: were saying, like, you know, use it as a explosive
Speaker 4: secret weapon at some point.
Speaker 6: I could be wrong, but I think we did talk
Speaker 6: about this on the show last week.
Speaker 3: So I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't believe.
Speaker 7: Harry briefly that you mentioned perhaps, but I mean, that's
Speaker 7: a job, a job.
Speaker 5: I also didn't know that I did.
Speaker 4: And you know when you make those picks back in August,
Speaker 4: and so I don't cling onto them, I know, like
Speaker 4: I don't. I'm not on You're on a pic show, Greg,
Speaker 4: and like to me, it's like I made it in August.
Speaker 5: It happened early in the morning.
Speaker 6: So I'm still holding out hope for my Eagles Chargers
Speaker 6: banger I have.
Speaker 3: I had Jets, which you know v nine ers.
Speaker 2: And but again, by the transitive properties of the conversation
Speaker 2: with Sauce today, it really is kind of Jets Niners
Speaker 2: because Sauce.
Speaker 5: Didn't even really buy into your theory.
Speaker 3: But he said, you have to get Sauce to buy
Speaker 3: into a lot of theories.
Speaker 7: What did we say.
Speaker 6: He said, reality is like important or something like that.
Speaker 6: He's into reality.
Speaker 7: That's like fair.
Speaker 4: It was also notable that he didn't know who Martin
Speaker 4: Scorsese or Quentin Tarantino were.
Speaker 3: But uh, he's much younger than us, he is.
Speaker 5: I think that's from the different world.
Speaker 2: All right, So, so good job by you on the prediction,
Speaker 2: and we're going to have our You got to stick
Speaker 2: the landing though of course. Now now we need to
Speaker 2: know who you will pick to win the Super Bowl
Speaker 2: and we'll we'll share those picks on tomorrow's show. We're
Speaker 2: also going to have more fun guests, so just make
Speaker 2: sure you check out our Friday show, our last show before.
Speaker 3: The super Bowl.
Speaker 2: And and Mark, we've been concerned about your health. Of
Speaker 2: the last couple of days, it's come up in front
Speaker 2: of guests. They seem to be alarmed when they realized
Speaker 2: how close a sick person is to them. Greg and
Speaker 2: I are on some level alarmed. I know you's a
Speaker 2: big weekend. Yeah, but you are going and this is
Speaker 2: an amazing thing. You're going to NFL Honors tonight.
Speaker 5: I do not believe I will be going to that.
Speaker 7: I don't.
Speaker 3: I think they're going to suit it in Buddha tonight.
Speaker 4: Like the person I was planning to go with is
Speaker 4: also you know, in dire strait. So we will see
Speaker 4: how any of that. Well, I'll let you know. Maybe
Speaker 4: it's early in the.
Speaker 6: Day, but if I go, if you go, I go
Speaker 6: on that early it starts in like two or three hours.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it seems like a long shot. If I go, oh,
Speaker 4: I will file a report.
Speaker 2: That's what we're looking for. All right, thank you everybody
Speaker 2: for listening. Like we said, we'll be back Friday, and
Speaker 2: then the weekend and then.
Speaker 3: The big game.
Speaker 2: We're getting closer day by day until then, you know
Speaker 2: what you gotta do.
Speaker 3: Heat the call