1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: It's that time time, time, Luck and Load Michael Verie 2 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: Show is on the air. 3 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 2: It's interesting to me in the course of my life 4 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 2: different things that I notice, how we deal with the 5 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 2: concept of accountability and consequences and how they are extolled 6 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 2: or forgotten in that common conversation and in the popular culture. 7 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: It's really interesting phenomenon to me because we have a 8 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: tendency to ignore the idea. Do whatever you want, damn 9 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: the consequence. Do what makes you feel good, do what 10 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: gives you gratification. I think gratification it's a better word 11 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: than happiness. Happiness is a silly word. Nobody's walking around 12 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 2: and we're happy. We're all happy all the time. Test happy, 13 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: you'd get bored being happy? 14 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: You would. 15 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 2: Jordan Peterson has really done some important work on this subject. 16 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: He's not the first, but he's the first to take 17 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: it to such a big audience. And the idea that 18 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 2: he has that he has really popularized is that the 19 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 2: pursuit of happiness per se is a fool's errand you 20 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 2: never actually achieve happiness. Many people are watching pop culture 21 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: and they think the Kardashians are happy, or Diddy Epstein 22 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: is happy, or Lizo or whoever else, and then they're 23 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: shocked to find out that person isn't happy in this 24 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: since that they believe they would be happy, this euphoria 25 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: overcoming you at all times in warm sensation, and believe 26 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 2: it or not, even though that person is their hero, 27 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 2: that person is they would sell off their kidney to 28 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: get to go to a concert, to just be part 29 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: of a screaming, teeming, massive people cheering that that person 30 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: is singing the song they've already heard of them, but 31 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: in the same. 32 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: Zip code as them. 33 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: They're also delighted to learn that those people are usually 34 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 2: miserable because they have been on a journey to the 35 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: destination of happiness, and as it turns out, happiness is 36 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: not never land. So that makes him feel good because 37 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 2: I may not be happy, but it turns out that 38 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: person is supposed to be happy. He's supposed to be happy, 39 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: and he's not happy, So that makes me feel better 40 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 2: because I thought he was just sitting over here just 41 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 2: being happy all the time. But what Jordan Peterson has 42 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 2: done I think groundbreaking work in terms of taking it 43 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: to the masses. As I say, it's not the first 44 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 2: to come up with this, I understand this the idea 45 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 2: that happiness is not the pursuit of man should not 46 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 2: be the pursuit of man. It's a throwaway term. It's 47 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 2: a simplicity term that has become a catch all. In economics, 48 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 2: we use the term utility. It gives some people utility 49 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: to do this or that. Doesn't mean they're smiling necessarily. 50 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 2: If you hate pedophiles and you get to be the 51 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 2: executioner of pedophiles, it doesn't make you happy to be 52 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 2: the executioner, but it gives you utility. And Rick Warren 53 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: in twenty twelve, I think it was wrote The Purpose 54 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 2: Driven Life, which I actually think it was an important 55 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 2: book at the time, the idea of finding purpose in 56 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: your life and what you do, living purposefully, intentionally, knowing 57 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: why you're here and what you're doing. And I've come 58 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: to learn that this is why some people, I'm going 59 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: to use that term, are very happy doing a job 60 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 2: when they don't need to work anymore. 61 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: You know. 62 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: The Walmart reader kind of went away. I loved the 63 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 2: Walmart read. I loved the Walmart Reader because so many 64 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 2: of the Walmart readers didn't need to work. They didn't 65 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 2: turn the money down because that's what they used to 66 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: buy a cup of coffee while they were there. They 67 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 2: arrived early, they stayed late, they stayed afterwards. They took 68 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 2: their penny off and hung around, or kept their penny on. 69 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 2: They loved to greet people. What a brilliant idea. You 70 00:04:53,640 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 2: take this cold, soulless warehouse full of junk that people 71 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 2: are coming into to grab, most of which they could 72 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 2: do without, and you put a human face on it, 73 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: A real human face. Not a kid on a phone, 74 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 2: not not somebody disinterested, not somebody checking sports scores or 75 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 2: texting their buddies or taking Peter picks, A real human 76 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 2: being in comfortable shoes, welcoming people into your cold, soulless warehouse. 77 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: It was a brilliant a strike, a stroke of brilliance. 78 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: It was a brilliant move. I love everything about it. 79 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 2: But what it spoke to in me, which I didn't 80 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: understand too many years later, was the idea of having purpose. 81 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 2: I've known so many people over the years who cannot 82 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 2: wait to retire, and the moment they retire, they have 83 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 2: the world out of the tail, and within a couple of 84 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 2: days they realize they've lost their purpose. Even if work 85 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 2: was not their purpose, because they're pulling a paycheck, punch 86 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: in a clock. They they they've lost their routine, and 87 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,239 Speaker 2: in that routine was comfort. You may not like your job, 88 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 2: per se, the actual job, but we put some We 89 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 2: put some dressing on it. 90 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: Right. We put a Briton. On the way to your. 91 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 2: Job, you may stop and get a kalachi, and you 92 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 2: really like talking to the people there at lunch. You 93 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 2: might enjoy walking across the street and talking on the 94 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 2: way home. You might come up LATERUS was just officially 95 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 2: endorsed by IRS Agency the Michael Barry Show. 96 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: I'd rather not have that endorsement. 97 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 2: I received a mean and it's two stick figures. They're 98 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 2: both sitting on stools, and one is gesturing like he's talking, 99 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 2: the other one is sitting kind of resigned, like he 100 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 2: is listening. And the title of it is being taught 101 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 2: to avoid talking about politics and religion has led to 102 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 2: a lack of understanding of politics and religion. What we 103 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 2: should have been taught was how to have a civil 104 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 2: conversation about a difficult topic. I'll read that again, being 105 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 2: taught to avoid talking about politics and religion. Think about 106 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: how many times in your life you've been told I 107 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 2: know two things. You don't talk about politics and religion. 108 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 2: Why the two of the most important things related to 109 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 2: the human condition. What else is there? Being taught to 110 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 2: avoid talking about politics and religion has led to a 111 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: lack of understanding of politics and religion. If we're uncomfortable 112 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 2: talking about those things, talking is how we express ourselves, 113 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: which forces us to structure our arguments. When people are 114 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 2: uncomfortable talking about something, it often means that they can't 115 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 2: quite process it. They can't figure out where to put it, 116 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 2: They can't figure out what they feel about it. They 117 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 2: can't begin to to explain what their problem with it is, 118 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 2: what their opposition to it is, why it gives them 119 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 2: such discomfort. You should be able to explain those things, 120 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 2: and if you cannot explain those things, there's a good 121 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 2: reason for it. If a conversation about that subject makes 122 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 2: you uncomfortable, that's a sign. Being taught to avoid talking 123 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 2: about politics and religion has led to a lack of 124 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 2: understanding of politics and religion. What we should have been 125 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 2: taught was how to have a civil conversation about a 126 00:09:52,600 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 2: difficult topic. When we don't talk about things them underground, 127 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 2: you could put under politics and religion. 128 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: You could put race. 129 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: Because people are very uncomfortable talking about race. And my 130 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 2: belief is that you should be able to talk about 131 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 2: race the way you talk about everything else. And that 132 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 2: is the reason you should have picked up on this already. 133 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 2: That is the reason why I inject race into things 134 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 2: in a very whimsical way, because it's not taboo. It 135 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 2: shouldn't scare you, it shouldn't frighten you. It shouldn't be 136 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 2: something that when you hear you immediately look around both 137 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 2: ways and who's going to lose their job, who's going 138 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 2: to get in trouble, who's going to be boycotted? And 139 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 2: that's what people do. In fact, some of you do that. 140 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 2: I've actually witnessed. 141 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: It with my own eyes. 142 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 2: In the middle of a conversation, I will say, for 143 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 2: no good reason, when they're just saying, so, this guy 144 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 2: walks into the restaurant, was he black? 145 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: Why would you ask that? 146 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 2: Why does that upset you? If I had said is 147 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 2: he tall? You wouldn't have panicked. If I'd said is 148 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 2: he right handed? You wouldn't have panicked. If I'd said 149 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 2: was he wearing a coat? I'm asking you to give 150 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 2: me details about the person in the story that's how 151 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: we tell a story. We set the time, the place, 152 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 2: the who, what, where, We described the person to paint 153 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 2: a picture. If you read Himmingway talking about the guy 154 00:11:56,120 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 2: in the bar, as your narrator is walking into the bar, 155 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 2: he will describe not just that the man is wearing glasses, 156 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 2: but that they're pin snaze or however you pronounce it, glasses, 157 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 2: And he may give you the color. He'll tell you 158 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 2: whether they create an oval effect on the eye. He 159 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 2: doesn't just tell you the guy's wearing a hat. He'll 160 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 2: tell you how the hat's sitting on his head. 161 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 1: He doesn't just. 162 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 2: Tell you that the guy's white. He'll tell you whether 163 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 2: he's sunburned or whether he looks like he's worked on 164 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 2: a marina doc his entire life. He doesn't just tell 165 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 2: you what kind of clothes. He tells you how those 166 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: clothes are hanging. Do they look like thrift store clothes 167 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 2: or designer clothes? Are they well worn from that day 168 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 2: or did he pick them up off the floor. So 169 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: why is race a subject that is simply a descriptor 170 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 2: that makes people so uncomfortable? Well, there are people who 171 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 2: have taught you or scared you into believing that that's 172 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 2: a thing you have to pretend doesn't exist, which is 173 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 2: really stupid. If I walk into a group of black 174 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 2: guys and they say, Mike be was up and then 175 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: I leave and somebody who doesn't know me comes out 176 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 2: of the bathroom and they go, who were you all 177 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 2: talking to? They wouldn't say a human being, Okay, well 178 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 2: I saw four people walk in, which one were you 179 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 2: all talking to the person who was wearing a shirt? Okay, 180 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 2: there were four people wearing a shirt. They would say, 181 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 2: you know that white boy, you saw him. That's not 182 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 2: a bad thing. That doesn't offend me because it's true. 183 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 2: And that's how they separate me from the Asian guy, 184 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:05,599 Speaker 2: the Hispanic guy, and the caveman that walks within with 185 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 2: me who might have also been a white man, but 186 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: we're really not sure. Because some of those early civilizations, 187 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: you get say, you know, I want to ask you people, 188 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 2: do yourself a favor right now and rock somebody's world. 189 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 2: You know, In conversation with people, I find that we 190 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 2: devote a lot of energy to consuming content, and we 191 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 2: devote a lot of energy to the internal conversation within 192 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 2: our own head of where we stand on issues and 193 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 2: who we're going to support and who we're against and 194 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 2: how much we're against them important, no doubt, important should 195 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 2: be the and. 196 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: Sadly a lot of people don't do it. 197 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 2: But we are getting diminishing returns at some point because 198 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 2: we are consuming what would appear to be the same 199 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 2: swirl of information from the same echo chamber day in 200 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 2: and day out, which leads to a sense of frustration 201 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 2: that nothing's being done, just not. But part of that 202 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 2: becomes if it's what I talk about sixteen hours a day, 203 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 2: all day, every day, and all I ever think about, 204 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 2: then even one day of talking about it is interminable, 205 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 2: because it's all I'm talking about. You have to have 206 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 2: some level of balance to make it. Soldiers in war 207 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 2: don't fight the war in the minute the battle is over, 208 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 2: repaired to their tents and talk about the war. They 209 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 2: make music, They write letters home, They compose poetry. They 210 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 2: look at a picture of their girl and pine for 211 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 2: her in the town they lived in. They sent a 212 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 2: letter to their mom and tell her how much they 213 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 2: loved her. They might play cards and drink some whiskey. 214 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 2: It's not because the battle's not real and people aren't dying. 215 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 2: It must be one or we will lose. No, it's 216 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 2: because of the understanding that that is so all consuming 217 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 2: that it has to be turned off and recharged, and 218 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 2: you have to have a diversion from that engagement and 219 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 2: a lot of our And you know why you don't 220 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 2: have a diversion because the radio and the website and 221 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 2: the TV station can't afford for you to have a diversion. 222 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: They need to. 223 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 2: Keep you plugged in the whole time. They need to 224 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 2: keep you so plugged in that you're worn down. This 225 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 2: trickle battery is catching on fire and not good. It's overheating, 226 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: burning everything down. So what do you do? What do 227 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 2: you do to find meaning in your day? What do 228 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 2: you do that at the end of it you say 229 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 2: I did that? Ah yeah, Because watching television news, reading 230 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 2: the websites of the headlines, that does not leave you 231 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 2: with a feeling of fulfillment, satisfaction, completion, and accomplishment. It 232 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 2: may be necessary, but it does not do that. So 233 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 2: let me challenge you to find one thing today that 234 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 2: will leave you with that feeling. Example, there's a business 235 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 2: that you support, maybe a restaurant, may not. Maybe a 236 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 2: little distribution company, maybe a tire company or an oil 237 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 2: change company. Or a muffler shop, but it's locally owned 238 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 2: and the owner is there on site and you like 239 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 2: the service they provide or the product they build for 240 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 2: the few who still do Or maybe it's dun fence company, 241 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 2: or maybe it's the people who cut your grass, or 242 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 2: maybe it's the people who painted your home or the 243 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 2: guy who takes care of your car. But it could 244 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 2: be a burger joint, could be a beer joint. It 245 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 2: could be most any small business you can imagine. The 246 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 2: point is not the product of the service. The point 247 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:28,239 Speaker 2: is that their biggest challenge is getting enough people in 248 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 2: to serve and enough good employees to keep the business afloat. 249 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 2: And it's so much harder than you think. You would 250 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 2: be shocked what a difference you could make if you 251 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 2: go in and spend a dollar. Secondly, if you ask 252 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 2: the owners, Hey, what can I do to help you? 253 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: Guys? 254 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 2: I want to spread the word. You guys are wonderful. 255 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 2: I wish more people knew about you. You got a 256 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 2: Facebook page, put up a post, simple quick post. I 257 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 2: had a great experience at this restaurant. I encourage you 258 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 2: to try it out. Now go the extra mile and 259 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 2: you'll get a lot more bang. 260 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: For your buck. 261 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 2: Give the address, the cross street, the phone number, and 262 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 2: who to ask for Because if somebody has, the more 263 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 2: layers you put into getting someone to do what you 264 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 2: want them to do, the less likely you will accomplish 265 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 2: getting them to do what you want them to do. 266 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 2: If someone sends me, hey, you ought to watch this movie. 267 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 2: If when I'm flipping through movie ideas, that movie comes 268 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 2: up on the screen and I can hit play, than 269 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 2: I will. But I'm not going to go do the 270 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 2: research on all the movies that are just the name 271 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 2: of a movie. 272 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: Why would I? 273 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 2: But if you tell what the movie's about might catch 274 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 2: my interest. If you tell what the movie is about 275 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 2: and put a link to it, you're increasing the chances. 276 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 2: I see salesmen do this. I see people do this 277 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 2: all day every day. Hey, would you this is a 278 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 2: great one. Hey, would you mind calling my dad in 279 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 2: having him on the show, because this is his interesting 280 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 2: thing that he did in his life, and I think 281 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 2: you would be fascinated by it. Why not include his 282 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 2: phone number and his name so. 283 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: I can go look it up. Because people are lazy 284 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: or thoughtless. 285 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 2: If your life depended on that business that you've decided 286 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 2: to show favor to today, then you would do more 287 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 2: than just post or tell one person, ay, I was 288 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 2: so and so Bob's down the corner is pretty good. 289 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 2: You would drive them there yourself, just like we do 290 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 2: for elections. That's how candidates win election. I'll tell you this, 291 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 2: if you've ever been involved with a campaign, it ain't 292 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 2: going to war, not even one one million of it. 293 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 2: But there is after the election a certain serotonin drop. 294 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 2: There is almost a sadness, a sense of loss, because 295 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 2: campaigns are all consuming, they're exciting, you're engaged in a battle. 296 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: Can't tell you. 297 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 2: How many warriors have told me that they come back 298 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 2: when a campaign is over, people who've been in it, 299 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 2: Especially if you win. There's a sense of exhaustion because 300 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 2: now the race is running. But there's almost a sadness 301 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 2: because when you're in the middle of a campaign, you 302 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 2: wake up thinking about it and go to sleep thinking 303 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 2: about it. Your mind doesn't stray. You are so locked in, 304 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 2: you feel so alive. What if you were to take 305 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 2: that mentality today and say, you know what I'm going 306 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 2: to do. I've got a grandson, I'm eighty two years old. 307 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 2: I might not be here in a year or five 308 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 2: when my grandson is older. I don't want him to 309 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 2: know how much his papau loved him, or his memo 310 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 2: loved him. I'm going to sit down now, while he's 311 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 2: in school. I'm gonna write him a letter that I'm 312 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 2: going to present to him, and I'm going to ask 313 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 2: his mom if I can pick him up at three 314 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 2: and I'm going to take him fishing, and I'm going 315 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 2: to have the food ready and the whole deal. 316 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: Or I'm going to take him to the arcade, or I'm. 317 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 2: Going to take him to the BMX bit whatever he 318 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 2: would love, and go make him memory. 319 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 1: You will never regret that you did that, all right. 320 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 2: Nine presidents never graduated from college, the last one and 321 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 2: the only one of the twentieth century. 322 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: Can you guess who it was? You can guess. 323 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 2: Think of the most common president, by which I mean 324 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 2: breeding schooling. 325 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: He was a clerk. 326 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 2: In fact, he was a very very corrupt clerk in 327 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 2: Missouri who I think it was a Pendergast family who 328 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 2: ran a machine there and he was the cog in 329 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 2: the wheel that made it happen. 330 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: Harry S. Truman S stands for nothing. Yeah, it's like 331 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: in the word T, like iced T the E and 332 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: the A are silent, same thing as no middle name. 333 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 2: So you're nine presidents who never graduated from college. George Washington, 334 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 2: Andrew Jackson, Martin Van Buren, Zachary Taylor, Millard Fillmore, Abraham 335 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 2: Lincoln you could practice law without a college degree at 336 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 2: the time, Andrew Johnson, the accidental president when Lincoln was assassinated. 337 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 2: And last, but not at least, Grover Cleveland. And then, 338 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 2: of course, Harry has Truman. All right, very quickly, ramon 339 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 2: to make a point. There are a handful of first 340 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 2: ladies in American history that are extremely well known, and 341 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 2: the rest are not partially known. I don't know much 342 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 2: about him. You either know the first lady and something 343 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 2: about her, or you don't know her name at all. 344 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 2: I looked this up this weekend, so I'm kind of 345 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 2: interested to share, like a little nerd. 346 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: All Right, so here we go. 347 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 2: I'll give you the president, and very quickly, you spout 348 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 2: the first lady's name. 349 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: Are you ready? We'll go in order? 350 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 2: George Washington, Martha Washington is correct, John Adams, Abigail Adams 351 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 2: is correct. Thomas Jefferson, Martha, thank you didn't know. James Madison, 352 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 2: Dolly Madison, that's correct. James Monroe, Elizabeth. You wouldn't know that. 353 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 2: John Quincy Adams, Louisa. You wouldn't know. Andrew Jackson. A 354 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 2: lot of people know this one because they were married, well, 355 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 2: they were both separately married, and it became a huge 356 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 2: scandal and they smeared him with that. Rachel Emily Jackson. Oh, 357 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 2: you're just guessing old names. Martin van Buren Hannah. But 358 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 2: her full name, just so you know, was Hannah Hose 359 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 2: h o E s Hannah Hose van Buren. 360 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 1: Those Hose girls, you know, that's what they were known as. 361 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 2: William Henry Harrison, Anna Tutthill Sims Harrison, John Tyler, Letitia 362 00:25:55,680 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 2: James K. Polk, Sarah Zachary Taylor, Margaret Millard Fillmore, another 363 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 2: Abigail Franklin, Pierce, Jane James Buchanan never married. You know 364 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 2: what that means if you're president from eighteen fifty seven 365 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 2: eighteen sixty one. 366 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 1: And you never married. 367 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 2: Abraham Lincoln, Mary Todd Lincoln is correct. Andrew Johnston Eliza, 368 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 2: you wouldn't know that. 369 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 1: Ulysses S. 370 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 2: Grant, Julia Rutherford b. Hayes Be's Burchard. By the way, Lucretia. 371 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 2: Oh no, sorry, not Lucretia. Lucy. 372 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: Lucy. 373 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 2: James Garfield's been shot down. His widow was Lucretia. His 374 00:26:51,080 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 2: successor Chester, Arthur Ellen, Grover Cleveland, Francis Benjamin Harrison, Caroline 375 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 2: Grover Cleveland, I like old name. Francis William McKinley, Ida. 376 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 2: Don't name women Ida anymore? 377 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 1: Teddy Roosevelt. Do you know Teddy Roosevelt's what his name? 378 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 2: Edith Kermit, Caro Roosevelt, William H. Have Helen Woodrow Wilson Ellen, 379 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 2: not Helen Ellen. Calvin Coolidge, what a perfect name for 380 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 2: his wife, Grace, because he was a Methodist minister, Grace 381 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 2: good Hugh Coolidge. 382 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: Did that sound like a minister's wife, Grace? It's only 383 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: an English novel. Herbert Hoover. 384 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 2: His wife's name was Loulou Franklin D. 385 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: Roosevelt. 386 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 2: See there's one of those that you know. The wife's 387 00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 2: name Eleanor is correct. 388 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: Harry S. 389 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 2: Truman. I think not as many, but a lot of 390 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 2: people will know Harry Truman's wife's name, Bess b E 391 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 2: S S. 392 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: Dwight D. 393 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 2: Eisenhower. From here people will know I think most Maybe 394 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 2: you know what state Dwight Eisenhower was born in. 395 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: John F. Kennedy. 396 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 2: The Lovely Jackline Bouvier Kennedy And Then she Doesn't Ruin 397 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 2: It by Marionette Lyndon B. Johnson, particularly known in Texas. 398 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 2: What a great cause. Flowers on the Highway that might 399 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 2: seem silly, but that's lasting to this day and I 400 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 2: love it, by the way, Lady Bird, Dick Nixon, Pat 401 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 2: Gerald Ford, Betty famous for Jimmy Carter, Rosalind's Ronald Reagan 402 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 2: of course, Nancy Barbara Bush, Oh sorry, George Bush. 403 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: Barbara Bush most noted for what was her cause? Literacy? 404 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 2: Bill Clinton, Oh that tastes in my mouth. 405 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: George W. 406 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 2: Bush, Laura Bush, Barack Obama, Michelle Obama, Donald J. Trump, 407 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 2: The most Beautiful, the first Stage of Millennia. And Joe Biden, 408 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 2: Doctor Joe Biden,