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Speaker 1: The big day is coming gone. Not that big day.

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Speaker 1: Not talking about the election. I'm talking about the NFL

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Speaker 1: trade deadline. Trade deadlines are basically comfort food. Comfort food

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Speaker 1: for the sports media, when you think about it, kind

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Speaker 1: of tasty, but empty calories rarely live up to the hype.

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Speaker 1: It's one of those where you eat and then you go,

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Speaker 1: I didn't get full. You think you're full, and then

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Speaker 1: you realize there was nothing there. And the NFL was

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Speaker 1: no exception yesterday. No big names got dealt Packers didn't

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Speaker 1: get a wide receiver. JJ Watts still with the texts,

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Speaker 1: and Stephan Gilmore still is a Patriot even though his

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Speaker 1: house is on the market, and thanks in part two

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Speaker 1: complicated salary cap issues, teams just couldn't pull the trigger

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Speaker 1: on anything. NFL rosters are basically set, although you're going

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Speaker 1: to have some players cut today. Some name players be

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Speaker 1: cut today. It's a mad dash to the finish. You

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Speaker 1: also have the looming cloud of COVID hovering overhead, and

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Speaker 1: then every season really is a war of attrition when

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Speaker 1: you think about it. This year it could come down

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Speaker 1: to who has the most healthy bodies. Trade deadline was

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Speaker 1: a dud, but the rest of the regular season should

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Speaker 1: be exciting. It should also be very strange as well.

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Speaker 1: People talk about green Bay some members of the media, Hey,

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Speaker 1: green Bay's got to get a wide receiver. They didn't

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Speaker 1: get one in the draft. I didn't think they were

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Speaker 1: going to get one yesterday. Will Fuller is not going

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Speaker 1: to change the course of the Packers season. Will Fuller

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Speaker 1: cost you a lot. He's injured and he drops the ball.

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Speaker 1: Other than that, had a ton of talent, but he's

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Speaker 1: just not a great wide receiver, not a consistent one.

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Speaker 1: And that's not the problem with the green Bay Packers.

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Speaker 1: The problem is you allow four point seven yards per carry.

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Speaker 1: That's the problem. If you were going to add anything

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Speaker 1: for Aaron Rodgers this year, add defense, because defense is

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Speaker 1: the reason why you got blown out by San Francisco

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Speaker 1: last year. Russell Wilson would love some defense. These guys

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Speaker 1: who are putting up these big numbers, No man, it's

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Speaker 1: a high wire act every single week. The Chiefs added

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Speaker 1: enough defense there. We saw that they have enough playmakers

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Speaker 1: on defense. But and they've got a great offense. Steelers

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Speaker 1: got a great defense. Ravens that's a very good defense.

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Speaker 1: Tampa's got a really good defense. These are the teams

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Speaker 1: that are probably going to be competing for the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl because with the offense, they still have a defensive presence.

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Speaker 1: I know I'm old school, but I still leave you

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Speaker 1: have to have some kind of defense. They're formidable defense,

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Speaker 1: a defense that can stop a drive when it needs to,

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Speaker 1: when they can come up with a big play, they

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Speaker 1: can turn the ball over. I don't care how much

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Speaker 1: offense you have. At some point in the regular season

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Speaker 1: or the postseason and or the postseason, it'll come down

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Speaker 1: to a defensive play, a defensive stop. It does every year.

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Speaker 1: That comes down to a big defensive play, whether you

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Speaker 1: You can talk offense. Green Bay is fine with their

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Speaker 1: wide receivers. I know they have issues with their running backs,

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Speaker 1: but that's because of COVID. But if you're going to

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Speaker 1: give Aaron Rodgers something. I would have given him some

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Speaker 1: some point in the postseason. Yes, point all right. I

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Speaker 1: you guys as a room. Do gms and team presidents

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Speaker 1: overvalue draft picks and undervalue getting players that can help

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Speaker 1: them now? And is that more of a you always

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Speaker 1: look towards the futures type thing with draft picks, or

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Speaker 1: could trade a second round pick for Stefan Gilmore or

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Speaker 1: or a second round pick for Will full or J. J. Watt.

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Speaker 1: How does that not help my team this year? That

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Speaker 1: second round pick cannot help my team this year? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but Stefan Gilmore is unhappy with his contract, so you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get a guy who's unhappy with his contract unless

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Speaker 1: you're going to take care of that contract. Will Fuller

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Speaker 1: is expensive and is injury prone, so he doesn't help you.

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Speaker 1: But I do think that we always love the we

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Speaker 1: can't give up a second or third round draft pick.

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Speaker 1: If you're really good at drafting, then I understand why

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Speaker 1: you would not want to give up a second or

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Speaker 1: third round draft pick. But a lot of these teams,

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Speaker 1: aren't they stockpile draft picks. They're not good at drafting. Yeah, mclub,

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Speaker 1: Well that's why he stockpile draft picks because you could

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Speaker 1: have more, missus. If you're not great at drafting, you

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Speaker 1: need more draft picks. But I mean, if you want

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Speaker 1: to win super Bowls, then you collect draft picks. If

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Speaker 1: you want to be the Washington football team, you collect

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Speaker 1: free agents. But I would if I'm let's say Green

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Speaker 1: Bay or Seattle and I could get stuff on Gilmore

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Speaker 1: for the second half of the season, I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to give you a new contract until the end of

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Speaker 1: the year, I would almost treat him the way the

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Speaker 1: Patriots did Darrell Reeves. Hey, I'm just gonna use you.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna use us. Now he did get paid, but

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Speaker 1: I would just say, let's come in and see how

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Speaker 1: there if we win the Super Bowl, whatever it might be.

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Speaker 1: But Stefan Gilmore, I believe, is thirty. How much more

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Speaker 1: do I can I get out of him at that price?

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Speaker 1: And he's a very good player, But I can go

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Speaker 1: away from him. You know, he can take away one receiver,

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Speaker 1: Like I can go away from the best defensive back

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Speaker 1: in the game. I can't go away from Aaron Donald now,

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Speaker 1: So there's certain defensive players that you say he's worth it.

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Speaker 1: Stefan Gilmore is a wonderful player, But how much am

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Speaker 1: I going to have to pay? It's like the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: You know, we roughed up the Texans for what they

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Speaker 1: But also they didn't want to pay him twenty two

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Speaker 1: m Gilmour listed his house that was a big middle

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Speaker 1: finger to the team. Like that is that a big issue?

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Speaker 1: Like does a GM say, well, I don't want that

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Speaker 1: completely miserable, Like what if one of the Dan Nets

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Speaker 1: listed their house and like it was like, Oh, I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at it's on other show, blah blah blah. Maybe

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Speaker 1: it'd be crazy, like all of us would be like,

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Speaker 1: you're a jerk, what are you doing? Has anybody listed

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Speaker 1: their house? Paul's moved five times since we've done the show? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what do you mean listed the house seven houses since

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Speaker 1: we've been here. Got one of my houses has to

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Speaker 1: be listed. I don't know. Paul can't quit me, Paul

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Speaker 1: won't leave me. Yes, mclub I read, But yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think it's all like unhappy money guys are like the

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Speaker 1: like remember Levy on Bell and Pittsburgh tell like that

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Speaker 1: gutted the whole season. Yes, do I want Stephan Gilmore?

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Speaker 1: Not knowing how he's going to be and how much

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Speaker 1: I understand it. I just think that the trade deadline

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Speaker 1: deadline should have been later in the year because this

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Speaker 1: the healthiest team basically limped to the finish line, and

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Speaker 1: everybody's got injuries. Later in the season, maybe you can

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Speaker 1: get more for somebody. Maybe somebody's willing to give you

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Speaker 1: the New England Patriots are you know, sellers. But right

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Speaker 1: now they're still in the mix. Here. Did you see this?

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Speaker 1: There was an article in The Athletic and it was

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Speaker 1: just anonymous sources talking about what the Patriots are doing.

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Speaker 1: A former head coach said, Bill never would put anything

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Speaker 1: Something is weird. Now, I don't know what that's in

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Speaker 1: reference to, but talking about how Bill said he sold

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Speaker 1: out to win three Super Bowls. Oh so those comments, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what he's putting out there. Yeah. Yeah, Belichick said,

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Speaker 1: is natural that we have a decline. Now I sold

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Speaker 1: always wondered if they just decided to tank this year,

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Speaker 1: you get a compensatory pick. Cam's fool's gold. Anyway, people

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Speaker 1: to their backup. My hunch's Belichick would rather tear it

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Speaker 1: few years at nine and seven. I was really surprised

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Speaker 1: that Belichi. I blame this on selling out to win

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Now, go back to the first go

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Speaker 1: they came back. Bill at his age, how long is

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Speaker 1: he going to stay? And you know, how long is

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Speaker 1: he up for the challenge of this Because this goes

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Speaker 1: back to you don't have a franchise quarterback right now,

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Speaker 1: that's where you start. Now. Granted you know Tom is

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Speaker 1: not your future, wouldn't have been your future, but you

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Speaker 1: would be in a better position with Tom Brady than

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Speaker 1: you would be with Cam Newton. But you drafted poorly.

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Speaker 1: As much as Bill wants to say, we sold out

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Speaker 1: to win, Okay, then why are you sound defensive? Hey,

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Speaker 1: look at what we did. You know, we went to

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Speaker 1: we won three, we went to another one, we went

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Speaker 1: to an AVAC title game. I get that. I mean

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Speaker 1: that's wonderful. Now those things that he's doing are unprecedented,

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Speaker 1: But he did not draft well. If they drafted better

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Speaker 1: just at running back and wide receiver, they don't even

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Speaker 1: Are the Patriots different in that division? Are they different

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Speaker 1: there if he had skilled position players. So that's on Belichick.

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Speaker 1: How are you? What is your favorite color? In the

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Speaker 1: Peacock's the NBC peacock? Do you have a favorite color? Well,

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Speaker 1: from tomorrow. So in the mood, in the mood, could

425
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Speaker 1: see how you doing. I'm good. I'm good. But there

426
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,120
Speaker 1: is a study. There's studies that have been done on

427
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 1: the color that you like and what it says about

428
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 1: you your personality. Really, yes, it's interesting. I didn't like

429
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,159
Speaker 1: the color orange until I went to Syracuse. Now I

430
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 1: have like orange everything you name it. So curious to

431
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 1: see what the study says that means about me. But

432
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: you're a Michigan guy, though you live in ann Arbor.

433
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 1: I just live here. I don't. I don't. I don't

434
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 1: root for the Wolverines. You don't, no, no, no, no no.

435
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 1: You're a one school person, and my school is Syracuse.

436
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lumb there and your kids go to it

437
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,679
Speaker 1: for them either Syracuse. No, of course I do. When

438
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 1: I'm not doing I do their games once every blue Moon.

439
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 1: I'll do their last game against Notre Dame. I won't

440
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: root for them during the game. You can separate church

441
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 1: and state. I mean, I've been doing this for thirty years.

442
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 1: So I will root for them and every sport whenever

443
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 1: they're playing. Our friend Scott van Pealth has a great line.

444
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: I borrow it way too often. Everyone's from somewhere that's

445
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 1: where I'm from. I think there's a thirty year track

446
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,959
Speaker 1: record that says I'm fair from talking about Syracuse, but

447
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 1: when I'm not on the air, you bet I'm rooting

448
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 1: for him. I brought this up to Rich Eisen, who

449
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 1: is a Michigan guy, but he's not a resident of

450
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 1: ann Arbor, and I said, you know what would hurt

451
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 1: more losing to Michigan State or losing to Ohio State.

452
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,640
Speaker 1: And he said losing to Ohio State. And I said, no,

453
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: that's not the right answer, because Ohio State is just

454
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,439
Speaker 1: a neighbor Michigan State. You have to deal with Michigan

455
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: State every day, the guy down the street who went

456
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 1: to East Lansing. And you're not expected to lose at

457
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: home to Michigan State. You're expected to lose to Ohio State. Wrong. Yeah,

458
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,120
Speaker 1: I think if you asked the people who live near

459
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 1: where I live, who have been true blue Michigan fans

460
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 1: for years, a Michigan State loss disappoints them in football.

461
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 1: An Ohio State loss devastates them, ruins their year, the

462
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 1: up North school, up North, all that stuff. Don't put

463
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 1: the M in Michigan whenever Michigan does it. Even Urban

464
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 1: Meyer's wife doesn't put the M in her last name

465
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 1: in her Twitter handle. You know, it's just that that's

466
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 1: just the way people are about it. They truly, truly

467
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 1: are ither forget Dan. I had I forget what event

468
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 1: I was doing. I had to go somewhere where I

469
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 1: could drive, So I went to the Michigan House a

470
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: game in person on Saturday before I went to wherever

471
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: I had to go to for Sunday Night football. And

472
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: I drove from Michigan south through Ohio with Michigan plates.

473
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 1: I got into Ohio, people were flipping me off, like, dude,

474
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 1: go out and see that, go go go cues. I

475
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with this. It really is visceral.

476
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 1: So they lost to Michigan State. Really did hurt Michigan

477
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: fans because they thought, Okay, he building something good year.

478
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 1: Michigan State looked so bad in week one, new coach,

479
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 1: and that was just like a punch to the gut

480
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: for them, knowing what probably is inevitable down the line

481
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: in mid December when they played the buck Eyes, what

482
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: is what is inevitable with his contract there? Do you

483
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:43,360
Speaker 1: think Jim Harball is there next season? I do, I do, Dan,

484
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make a blanket statement and then maybe I'll

485
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: dive into the specifics. I think there's gonna be very

486
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 1: little movement in college football, college athletics, colleges in general,

487
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 1: colleges and universities. The budgets are devastated. They are crushed

488
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: by all everything that related to COVID nineteen. So let's

489
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 1: start there. Pay and buyouts is going to be a problem.

490
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: List you have one person who wants to write the check,

491
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: which often happens. But I also think schools are gonna

492
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: have a really tough time from a moral standpoint. We

493
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 1: don't say that often in college athletics, but this whole

494
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: year is so different. I think we as fans, as broadcasters,

495
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: we're getting into football just like we normally. Dude, what's

496
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 1: wrong with Belichick? Why aren't they doing this? We're not

497
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,959
Speaker 1: putting enough of an asterisk on this season. This season

498
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 1: is so odd, it's such a unicorn. I'd really pump

499
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 1: the brakes on making big changes after this year because

500
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,159
Speaker 1: it's really hard to judge what anybody's doing given the

501
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 1: build up. In the execution of the year. We're talking

502
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 1: to Mike Tarico, Football Night in America and the Voice

503
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: of Notre Dame Football with Clemson coming to town on

504
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 1: Saturday Night on NBC assessed Notre Dame at the beginning

505
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: of the year to where they are now in facing

506
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 1: this Clemson team with a backup quarterback. It was like

507
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. This was one big pregame show leading

508
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: up to the big game. The entire season was lead

509
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: up to Clemson. That you're measuring stick and Brian Kelly

510
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: came off a four and eight season four years ago

511
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 1: and has had three double digit win seasons. It's now

512
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 1: five years ago, three double digit win seasons, and now

513
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 1: they start six and up. They are better. I've seen

514
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: them every year and seeing NFL teams on a regular basis,

515
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: you can tell talent, even though I by no means

516
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: an Italian evaluator, they're better. They've got better players, they've

517
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: got depth, they've got talent. The two games against Georgia

518
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 1: the last two years tell me Notre Dame can play

519
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: on the field with elite talent. They're getting really good players.

520
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: Clemson's the ultimate measuring stick in the sport along with Alabama.

521
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 1: This is a chance for them to see themselves against that.

522
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: What's happened during the year. They're not throwing it as

523
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: well as I thought as I think they thought they would.

524
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: Their defense is probably a little bit better than they

525
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: thought they would have. If they can play a possession

526
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: ability to run the ball score in the twenties type

527
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: of game, they'll have a good opportunity to beat Clemson

528
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 1: with DJ Louie and Lay the quarterback replacing Trevor Lawrence.

529
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 1: How long did it take you to get DJ's name? Oh,

530
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: it came right to me, although I must say I

531
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: have been practicing at home, Like last night, we're watching

532
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 1: a lecture results like one thirty. Do you want to

533
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: have another glass of wine? Yeah? You know it's good.

534
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 1: Chuck and Savannah and Lester, they're gonna be going till

535
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: three am. We'll hang with him here. Uh do you

536
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 1: want another glass of wine? And I said, yeah, sure.

537
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: It's become like Aloha for everything in the house right now. Hey,

538
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: would you like to pick up your shirts at the

539
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 1: cleaner school? Young? Yeah, I gotta do it. I think

540
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: they should just come up with DJ and then you

541
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: like like Dju people calling him Dju. His number five

542
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: is a big guy. He looks like a JaMarcus Russell

543
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: cam Newton physical stature kind of Guy's super talented too.

544
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: For a true freshman. He played great against Diversity against BC.

545
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: His nickname is Big Cinco. He's got a chain that

546
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: says big Cinco. I love that nick name. I'm like, dude,

547
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: I hope you are good to make it to the

548
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: NFL because that nickname will last forever. So not calling

549
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: or calling games without fans, you know, the college game.

550
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: The college games DAN have been different than the NFL games.

551
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: It did. The one NFL game in New Orleans, there

552
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: were just family and friends, like five hundred folks. When

553
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: the game's going on, you're hearing the piped in audio.

554
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: You can get into the game, not in the same

555
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: way you would when it's a big crowd. The college

556
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: games with ten twelve thousand people and the band feels

557
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: not all that bad. So the college games haven't been

558
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: as difficult. I'm just thankful that we've been able to

559
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: do the games in person in South Bend. I mean,

560
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: I can't imagine calling the games off TV. I did

561
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: for the hockey playoffs, and it was a challenge. It's

562
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: so hard to feel like you're doing the job the

563
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: right way, not seeing the field or picking up stuff

564
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: that's not just on that camera in front of you.

565
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: But it's been okay. Look, work is for all of us,

566
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: any of us who are lucky enough to be still

567
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: working right now. Work is twice as hard and half

568
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: as fun. But we're still, you know, maybe ten times

569
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: more thankful that we're getting a chance to do it

570
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: because a lot of people aren't in this really tough time.

571
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: Isn't it strange that the PAC twelve starts this weekend

572
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: like it's all it's such an afterthought. We can normally

573
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: name how many marquee guys out of the PAC twelve.

574
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: It just feels like they're just gonna put their head down,

575
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: plow forward, get some revenue here, and then come up

576
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: for air at the end of the season because nobody's

577
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: gonna qualify, you know, for the final four. Yeah. I

578
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: think the Big ten of the PAC twelve felt like

579
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: they had to jump in because once the ACC Big

580
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: twelve and SEC got started and the college football Playoff

581
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: was going to happen, The college football playoffs a lot

582
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: of money. These universities and the athletic department side need

583
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: that money, need every dollar they can get, So if

584
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: they didn't jump in, they weren't going to get some

585
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: of that cash. So I feel like they jump in

586
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: here at this point. It is odd. I feel odd

587
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: for the I look at the rankings and I see

588
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: Ohio State two and oh, And there they are there,

589
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: two and O and Clemson's like seven. Oh, there's an

590
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: argon in the rankings O and oh. But what are

591
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: we doing here? This whole season is the biggest exam

592
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: ample of how ridiculously screwed up college football is. At

593
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: that level, they need some common sense, some guardrails to

594
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: make everybody play the same kind of sport. What they've

595
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: done as the sport continues to get more fractured and

596
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: fractured is insanity. He really is. And I think Wisconsin

597
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: I got an update here from a source. I think

598
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: Wisconsin is in some serious trouble. I think the entire

599
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: season could be. They may have to forfeit this season.

600
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: And you know, do they come back and play those

601
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: two or three games because the other teams on their

602
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: when their COVID outbreak is better, because those teams need

603
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: the game so they can play six games in case

604
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: there's anohing. You know, folks, folks in the other leagues

605
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: have been going the whole time. Had told me when

606
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: they were going to start back in late August early September,

607
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: and we don't know if we're going to play all

608
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: ten or eleven games that were scheduled for We hope too,

609
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: but we're not sure. And the NFL is still in

610
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: the same boat. No, I think it's amazing we've gotten

611
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: to November. Full credit Dan to the docks, the infection

612
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: control officers. The NFL teams have the players too. They sacrifice.

613
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: So we turn on our TV's on Saturday and Sunday.

614
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: It's cool for us, it's cool to work. But people

615
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: are sacrificing, not going out and not hanging out, not

616
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: doing the things in their normal lives, so they're not

617
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: the person to infect their team. And I just tip

618
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: my cap and say thank you to the athletes who

619
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: are making that sacrifice along the way as well. Yeah,

620
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: I just worry. I remember when the season started and

621
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: had somebody tell me, wait until schools are out of

622
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: any kind of championship run, wait till the players in

623
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: the NFL are out of a playoff picture. That's when

624
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: you have to start worrying. Weeks twelve, thirteen fourteen, that's

625
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: what you know, this big concern of you know, we

626
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: could have another outbreak in the NFL. Well, I'll flip

627
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: that to the college side for a second. Most of

628
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: the schools have moved their calendars up. I know my

629
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: two kids who are in college will be coming home

630
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: from their fall semester wherever they're doing it here in

631
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks. But back end of the

632
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: football season might be easier for the teams to control

633
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,479
Speaker 1: any outbreaks because they're gonna be less people on campus

634
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: to interact with, which has been part of the source

635
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: of some of the outbreaks for school. So that's the

636
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: other side of it. But you're right, you're one in ten.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that same feeling. I think there's a respect for

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Speaker 1: opponents and teammates and a desire not to be the

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Speaker 1: guy or the people who, because of your negligence, brings

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Speaker 1: down an entire organization. Safe travels there, Mike. Always great

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Speaker 1: to talk to you. You two mission man. Glad to

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Speaker 1: be teammates. And I hope, I hope the election stuff

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Speaker 1: gets counted, because I think we might do the Clemson

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Speaker 1: gale on Saturday. It's third and five incomplete. Before fourth down,

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Speaker 1: here's Chuck Todd with an update on Milwaukee County. You know,

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Speaker 1: I mean it could be a strange week. It could happen, Mike,

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Speaker 1: it could happen. Looking forward to a great weekend. Thank you, buddy, Mike,

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Speaker 1: Jerico The big event weekend across NBC Sports headlined by

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Speaker 1: by Breedy, Brady and Breeze Sunday Night Football and number

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Speaker 1: one Clemson Number four Notre Dame Saturday in primetime on NBC.

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Speaker 1: or stream us live on the Peacock app. Talk to

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Speaker 1: a source yesterday, and I was trying to find out

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Speaker 1: a little bit more about what's going to happen with Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: I was told last week that the game against Purdue

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Speaker 1: this week was going to be in serious jeopardy, and

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Speaker 1: it turned out they had to cancel it. And then

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Speaker 1: I said, where does Wisconsin stand? And my source said,

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Speaker 1: if they can't play six games, there's a good chance

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Speaker 1: with State spiking COVID cases, they shut down Camp Randall,

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Speaker 1: a possible field hospital. My source goes on to say

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Speaker 1: they won't have a full roster when they play Michigan,

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Speaker 1: but we'll have both quarterbacks returning. But that's just a

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Speaker 1: possibility here given the COVID cases in Wisconsin. But my

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Speaker 1: source says if they can't play six games, there's a

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Speaker 1: good chance with the state spiking, they shut down Camp Randall,

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Speaker 1: a possible field hospital, and then they've gotten Michigan coming up.

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Speaker 1: They'll get their quarterbacks back, but I don't know what

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Speaker 1: their roster is going to look like by the time

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Speaker 1: they get to that point. Yes, boy, yeah, Wisconsin's got Michigan,

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Speaker 1: Northwestern Minnesota, Indiana in the next four weeks. After not

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Speaker 1: playing this weekend, Ian rappaport with a tweet Bill Belichick

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Speaker 1: ask if the team entertained offers for Stephon Gilmore, and

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Speaker 1: Bill said, not that I'm aware of. For all the

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Speaker 1: talk about Gilmore, it was very quiet. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to be trading for somebody who wants a new contract.

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Speaker 1: I will trade for him for the second half of

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Speaker 1: the season, and but I don't want to be negotiating

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Speaker 1: a contract. But I'm going to guess they would want

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Speaker 1: at least a first round pick for Stefan Gilmore. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for listening to the Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure

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Speaker 1: to catch us live every weekday morning nine to noon

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Speaker 1: Eastern or six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio.

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00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: Find your local station for The Dan Patrick Show at

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Speaker 1: or stream us live on the Peacock Act. It's bringing

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Speaker 1: Chris collins Where Sunday night football analyst, Pro Football Focus,

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Speaker 1: majority owner the Chris Collinsworth Podcast. He'll be with Alan

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Speaker 1: Michaels on the call Sunday night, Tom Brady, and Drew Brees.

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Speaker 1: It's a big event weekend on NBC. Also the Breeders

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Speaker 1: Cup Classic on Friday and Saturday, Clemson Notre Dame in

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Speaker 1: primetime Saturday night, NASCAR Cup Series Championship on Sunday afternoon.

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Speaker 1: How's morale, Chris? Well? Up? Brother? You started going through

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin and Michigan. I thought I was listening to the

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Speaker 1: election again. Now, Sarah, do you do what I do?

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Speaker 1: Do you sit up and like every election night? I

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00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: used to love doing this, even though it's during the

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00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 1: season and you're a little worn out anyway, and the

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Speaker 1: whole thing, But I would love sitting up and watching

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Speaker 1: the whole election night coverage and a little bit of

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Speaker 1: atory of it and everything, and now it's like election month,

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Speaker 1: election week. You know, I don't even know what you

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Speaker 1: call it anymore. I did not stay up to watch

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Speaker 1: it because I think that it's probably going to be

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Speaker 1: a few days before this is even called. So I

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Speaker 1: just thought, no matter what has said tonight or last night,

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Speaker 1: there's no finality to it. I'd rather just wait, let

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Speaker 1: it all spill out, and then sort of slice and

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Speaker 1: dice and consume it after that. Yeah, I got to

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Speaker 1: say hi to Bobby night there. I'm missing Bobby. He

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Speaker 1: used to come to all the events around town. I

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Speaker 1: got a chance to see him and talk to him

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Speaker 1: a lot. And one of my all time favorites. So

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Speaker 1: that's that's some collection you got going on that desk

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Speaker 1: right there. Oh yeah, yeah, I got yeah. I just

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Speaker 1: collect everything. What's the greatest piece, the best piece of

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Speaker 1: sports memorabil you you have? You know which one I

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Speaker 1: kind of like the most is I've got everybody's autograph

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Speaker 1: on the nineteen eight the Olympic hockey team on a picture,

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Speaker 1: you know, the picture of them going crazy at the

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Speaker 1: end of the game. And I always wanted to put it,

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Speaker 1: I need to get out to do a thing where

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Speaker 1: you know the call of the game and just push

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Speaker 1: a button to walk by the picture and push a button.

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Speaker 1: Do you believe in miracle? How does Tom Brady incorporate

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Speaker 1: Antonio Brown or Bruce Arians do this on such short notice.

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Speaker 1: I think he's a perfect fit for this team right now.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm assuming Antonio Brown is still Antonio Brown. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just gonna say this, so I'm just

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Speaker 1: gonna talk football for a minute, because the one thing

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Speaker 1: in watching the tape here of Tampa is that they

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Speaker 1: really miss having that inside threat. You know how many

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Speaker 1: times have we seen Tom Brady with James White or whatever,

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Speaker 1: just one on one you go up on the lineback

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Speaker 1: or you make a break to the left, you make

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Speaker 1: a break to the right, get him the ball, beautifully

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Speaker 1: accurate throne pass. And they really don't have that right now.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's not Ronald Jones's game, it's not Leonards

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Speaker 1: Fournette's game. Coming out of the backfield. They're a good

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00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: power running team. This is one of those old school

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Speaker 1: offenses in Tampa, and it's starting to come together. It

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00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: looks like Tom Brady in New England. Now, I mean,

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00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: they don't run a ton of zone stuff. They run

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Speaker 1: more power, blocking, downhill, physical and every week that I

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Speaker 1: watched them, it looks a little bit better than it

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Speaker 1: did the week before. Of course, the play action off

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Speaker 1: of that, but now they even have Mike Evans in

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Speaker 1: the slot with no Chris Godwin. Even Mike Evans is

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00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: starting to come down and playing in the slot. Gronk

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00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: is looking better than he was looking a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: So all these pieces are coming together. I just think

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00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: what they're still missing is that middle of the field

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00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: threat against man to man coverage, just that quick change

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Speaker 1: of direction, a kind of guy. And you know who's

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Speaker 1: better at that than Antonio Brown, or at least he

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Speaker 1: was better at that than anybody else. I also was

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Speaker 1: looking at the offensive line, and I did have questions

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Speaker 1: about that offensive line, But they've been together for the

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Speaker 1: most part this entire season, and if you look at

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Speaker 1: all the injuries to all the other offensive lines around

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Speaker 1: the NFL, I mean, it's kind of remarkable that I

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Speaker 1: think they've only missed a few plays together. And Brady,

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Speaker 1: it feels like understands, or they understand Brady. Just give

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Speaker 1: me this amount of time and we're fine. Like that.

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Speaker 1: That's almost like the blocking scheme. What have you seen?

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Speaker 1: They're better than that, they really are, because they're they're

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Speaker 1: physical running the ball. Remember the old play. I bet

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Speaker 1: you I've drawn up this play for Patriots games a

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Speaker 1: thousand times. The guard pulls out, they have a deep

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Speaker 1: play action pass, and then you hit Gronk over the middle, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's sort of their bread and butter. Well,

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00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,919
Speaker 1: they're getting back to that now, and they're getting back

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Speaker 1: to that now because they can run the ball effectively.

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Speaker 1: So you're starting to see these guards pulling. I'm starting

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00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: to see some old counter trays from the Washington Rest day.

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Speaker 1: It's a very old school. They jumbo a lot, They'll

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00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,720
Speaker 1: they'll put in Joe hag is the sixth offensive lineman.

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Speaker 1: But when you start pounding the ball and running the

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Speaker 1: ball with Tom Brady as your quarterback, now you get

784
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Speaker 1: back to that play action. The guard pulls, linebacker jumps

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Speaker 1: up to try and fill the gap. Here comes Gronkin behind,

786
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,919
Speaker 1: here comes Evans. And we have yet to see this

787
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Speaker 1: offense complete. We have yet to see all the receivers

788
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Speaker 1: on the field. It's been a really tough year for Rock.

789
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: He's not blocking like he used to block because he's

790
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: got that bad right shoulder. He's just getting creative, turning

791
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: his shoulder, trying to make blocks and do different things.

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00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 1: But I think as you as you project this team forward,

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00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: if they can get healthy again and if this offensive

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00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,919
Speaker 1: line stays together, I think they could be pretty darn good.

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Speaker 1: But you know more about Tampa or New or a

796
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: little bit more about Tampa at this point, only because

797
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: we were getting ready to do Tampa in Vegas and

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00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 1: then we got covided out of that one when Trent

799
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Speaker 1: Brown got sick that they we didn't know if we

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00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: were going to do the game, and so then they

801
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 1: were telling Fred Goodelli, it's like, it's your guy's call.

802
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: You can stay on that game, but if it gets canceled,

803
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 1: we'll give you another game. But you might be calling

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00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 1: Carolina from the booth in Las Vegas. I was like,

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Speaker 1: what with like a day's notice, you know? And I

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00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, that doesn't seem very smart. So then

807
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: it got down to, well, were you gonna move the truck? Right?

808
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: So we're in Vegas, so yeah, we'll take the We'll

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00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: take the game in New England that was I think

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00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 1: it was San Francisco that week, but we couldn't get

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Speaker 1: the truck there, so then it ended up the next

812
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 1: closest place was Arizona. Seattle at Arizona ended up being

813
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: a fantastic game, So once again the luck of the

814
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: Irish came through. He's Chris Collinsworth. He'll be on the

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Speaker 1: call Sunday Night Football and of course majority owner Pro

816
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Speaker 1: Football Focus, the Chris Collinsworth Podcast. Would you trade for

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Speaker 1: a veteran this time of the year If you were

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Speaker 1: Green Bay and let's say you could get stuff on

819
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Speaker 1: Gilmour and it was going to cost you a first

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Speaker 1: underdraft pick, No, I wouldn't take step On because the

821
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Speaker 1: reason they're trading him, I think, is that he got hurt.

822
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Speaker 1: You know, he had something with his knee or whatever.

823
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Speaker 1: The old buyer beware right this time of year, you

824
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Speaker 1: have to know why is that guy up on the

825
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: trading block? And Belichick too well, and the one thing

826
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Speaker 1: you know about Belichick is that he will trade them

827
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Speaker 1: a year or two early. So if you're right on

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Speaker 1: the brink and you think you're one player away, maybe

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind doing that deal with Belichick, because there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of gms and coaches out there. They don't

831
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Speaker 1: have the ten year plan anymore. Right, They're on the

832
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: brink of losing their jobs. And I always thought that

833
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: was one of the weaknesses of the design of having

834
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Speaker 1: gms and coaches make all the decisions about the organization,

835
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Speaker 1: is when these guys start getting on the bubble or

836
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Speaker 1: start struggling. Well, of course I'm gonna trade tomorrow's draft

837
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Speaker 1: choices for today because I gotta keep my job first

838
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Speaker 1: and foremost. So you always have to watch that a

839
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Speaker 1: little bit as well as some of these deals come down.

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Speaker 1: What about JJ one? Does he have value in the

841
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: open market? Of course? Yeah, of course. Well how about

842
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Speaker 1: a first round draft pick for JJ one? If you're like,

843
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: throw out it, you know, anybody who needs help like

844
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 1: green Bay, can't stop the run like would green Bay,

845
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Speaker 1: and you give a late first round draft pick for

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Speaker 1: JJ one, that's a really interesting question. I think the

847
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: ordinary thought would be no, just because he's a little

848
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: older and had as the history of injuries. Second round pick.

849
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 1: Possibly if you thought you were really really right there

850
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: on the brink of something, you know, I listen, I

851
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: played until I was thirty and it felt like I

852
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: got the twenty nine and I was feeling good. I'm

853
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: still going out dancing and having fun in the clubs

854
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: and doing all that. I got the thirty, and I

855
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: became an old man. Everything fell apart on it. Everything,

856
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was. Now, these guys probably

857
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 1: know how to train and take care of their bodies

858
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 1: better than I did. Wait, wait, wait, they were dancing

859
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: in the club. Well, yeah, I had my Yeah, my

860
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 1: fiance was with me at that time. If you want

861
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 1: to be that specific with it, yeah, but yeah, that's

862
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: how we used to get loose. Man, when after a game,

863
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: I swear after a game this we did it all

864
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: the time, you know, because you get to lack of acid.

865
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: You get you know, you go from man, I feel

866
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 1: great leaving the stadium. Let's go out. We're gonna go partying.

867
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: And then you go sit on the count And I

868
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: used to watch, you know, you guys do your highlights

869
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: and do all that kind of stuff, and then you

870
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: get up an hour later and you can't move right.

871
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: You're like, ah, you know, you feel like that. So

872
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 1: then what do you do. You go out and you

873
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: have a cocktail, you start dancing a little bit and

874
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: everything gets loose again. You do you hold a grudge

875
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: against anybody you played against? Hold a grudge against anybody

876
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: I played again? Only the only guy who really drove

877
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: me crazy but cheap shots. Did anybody take a shot

878
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 1: that you just never let go of that? Frank Minnifield

879
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: called his shot on me and said he was so.

880
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: I had a big game against Cleveland. I had about

881
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty yards the first game we played him.

882
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: Frank Minifield said he was going to knock me out

883
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: of the second game in the newspaper. Right in the

884
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 1: newspaper say he's gonna knock me out. I'm like, oh okay,

885
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 1: I said, I'm from the first play, I'm going to

886
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: down and taking a fifteen yard penalty. I am shopping

887
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: this guy's legs. I'm clipping him. I'm gonna roll up.

888
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take his ankle in my hands. I'm gonna

889
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: try and snap it. I'm gonna do anything I can

890
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: to kill this guy. I come back and get the

891
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and Boomer audibles to a quick screen

892
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 1: to me, like a wide receiver screen to me out there,

893
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: I was like all right, but I'm gonna get your

894
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 1: ass next. You got one playoff here. So I come

895
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: up and he throws his quick screen, and it's the

896
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: last thing I remember. It's the last thing I remember.

897
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: Minifield comes up and I don't know what he hits

898
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 1: me with. I you remember in wrestling he has a

899
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: foreign object. I think he had a foreign object. And

900
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 1: I'm out. I am out and I so I'm sitting

901
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: there and so they finally like wake me up, and

902
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: I get up, and I can remember running off the

903
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 1: field and I got to the bench and I'm standing

904
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: over and I'm on the bench and all of a sudden,

905
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: I come to whatever. I knew this was the first

906
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: play of the game. And I come to and I

907
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: look up at the scoreboard and it was like thirteen

908
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: twenty whatever, and I go, oh, good, good, good good.

909
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: I didn't miss anything. Second quarter so I stand up

910
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: and I fall down my apparently I had fallen back

911
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: over my ankle and my knee. So I'm completely gone.

912
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what quarter it is. I can't walk,

913
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: and I still want to go get after Frank Meadiford's

914
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 1: task because he said he was gonna hurt me, which

915
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: he did, so, Yes, I do holder drudge about that.

916
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:43,919
Speaker 1: It was his number thirty seven? What was his number one?

917
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 1: Thirty one? I think that might be it thirty one

918
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: had players? Yeah, yeah, yeah, but but you never did

919
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: he Was it a cheap shot when you saw it?

920
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: Or was it just a great tackle by him? It

921
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:02,439
Speaker 1: was a foreign objectly convinced he's not that tough a guy.

922
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: I've seen him one hundred times. I tell him, you're

923
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 1: you're not that tough a guy. What did you have

924
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: in your hand? He picked up one of the batteries,

925
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: you know, whatever they were throwing at something in there.

926
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: You got a good handle on the Steelers. Um, yeah,

927
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 1: I watched a good bit of that. I you know

928
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:24,439
Speaker 1: what impressed me most about the Steelers is that they

929
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: had that game against Tennessee. And I don't know if

930
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: you watched that one or not, but that was a

931
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 1: blood bath. I mean they were trying to kill each

932
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: other out there, right, so much so that we came

933
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: back and on their PFF show they had to be

934
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: picking the games and all, so I said, I tell

935
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: you what, I am not picking either the Steelers or Tennessee.

936
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: The week after this game, teams simply cannot put together

937
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: back to back physical games like what that game was.

938
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: And I was right about Tennessee. Tennessee came back and

939
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:02,439
Speaker 1: they got beat by Cincinnati. Pittsburgh goes into Baltimore and it's,

940
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: if anything, bloodier than the one that they had in

941
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 1: Tennessee and just went toe to toe for the entire

942
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: four quarters. I can't tell you how impressed I am

943
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 1: with the Pittsburgh Steelers putting two of those games back

944
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 1: to back together to stay undefeated. And they're not even

945
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: close shit on their offense. I mean, I still think

946
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: offensively they're going to get better, and if they do,

947
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,919
Speaker 1: with the way they're playing defense right now, they're gonna

948
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: be tough. But also I remember that betters would tell

949
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: me whoever played Seattle the week after they played Seattle

950
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: always bet against that team when they faced the Legion

951
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: of Boom, that they weren't like that. Yeah, they were

952
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: going to get beat up. I like that. You know,

953
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman's on the podcast that I do. I wasn't

954
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: going to even do it. I wasn't even gonna do

955
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: a podcast, and they said so he said, well, I

956
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: get you. Richard Sherman as a guest and I is

957
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: my way of getting out of the podcast I said,

958
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 1: you get me Richard sher And every week to do

959
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 1: the podcasts. I'll do one. They got Richard Sherman's I'm

960
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: doing a podcast every week. I don't know how, but

961
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 1: he is truly one of the most interesting guys to

962
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: talk to weekend and week out. He's not afraid. He

963
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,479
Speaker 1: talks about whatever he wants to talk about. It's really

964
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: been fun. Yeah, I saw that you were doing that

965
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: along with Pro Football Focus and then Football Night in America.

966
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 1: You're busy. My life sucks. It's fantastic. Gun Now it's great.

967
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: I mean I'm really you know, what if you're if

968
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna watch football day, the idea of talking about

969
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 1: football isn't that bad a job, right? I mean it's

970
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: actually I'm taking a break right now from my film

971
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: study to come in here and talk. So I was

972
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 1: thrilled to get a chance to take a break and

973
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 1: come see Bobby Knight. But are you okay with being criticized.

974
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 1: I'm criticized all the time. I know it's still not easy.

975
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: You know, you can read Chris you're great, and then

976
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,919
Speaker 1: there's one guy saying whatever, and that you know, one

977
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: out of ten will stay with you. Every every single

978
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: week I say something that somebody considers to be the

979
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: dumbest thing they ever heard. They're like, every week, I mean,

980
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: do I go, Do I go looking for it? I don't.

981
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: Generally my kids send it to me right that they

982
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: cannot wait for whatever I screw up. I've got one.

983
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: I had one. I can't even say it because it's

984
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: like it's like so foul right that I can't even

985
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 1: I would feel uncomfortable saying it. But it's also hilarious

986
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: because it was totally innocent on my part, And by

987
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 1: the time that I got home, my kids had made

988
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: a video of what I said and put it on

989
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: a loop and it just like just ran all like

990
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh please, Megan, stop please, And you have

991
00:52:56,200 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 1: no idea. I mean half the time I leave the stadium,

992
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,959
Speaker 1: I have absolutely no idea what stupid thing I've said

993
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 1: this week? And then you go on like social media

994
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 1: and you look at it like, you know, you cover

995
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 1: your eyes and you start flipping because you don't know

996
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: what it is. You don't know what it is that

997
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: you did this week. But everywhere you can set them

998
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: good to visit with you. My best to Holly and

999
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 1: we'll be watching Sunday night. Thank you man, anytime give

1000
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: me a call. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick

1001
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday

1002
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 1: morning nine until noon eastern six to nine Pacific on

1003
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, and you can find us on the

1004
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live on the

1005
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 1: Peacock app. The IT Team with an explosive report. If

1006
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: you were watching on Peacock during the commercial break, Paulie

1007
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: is going to recap an IT Team report, and now

1008
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: we go to the newsroom for an I Team investigation.

1009
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,240
Speaker 1: The motto of our news team is we don't break

1010
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,919
Speaker 1: news for we sprain it. Let's go to the news.

1011
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 1: Polled Dan, We're all aware there's a very famous female

1012
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 1: chef named Giada de Laurentis. She's on Cooking Channelda, very famous,

1013
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: world famous, well known, very talented, very smart, very easy

1014
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: on the eyes. She posted yesterday on social media and

1015
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: she's got a couple of million followers from Giadda de

1016
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: lorentzis quote curious, what kind of recipes and tips do

1017
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: you want to see for Thanksgiving? This year? Men used

1018
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 1: for smaller gatherings question mark easier. She's asking her fan

1019
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: base to respond, and now you would think people who

1020
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: are foodies would respond people who cook meals. No, no, no.

1021
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 1: Dan Todd Fritz responded to Giadda de Larentis and said, quote,

1022
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: would love your unique recipe, advice for a delicious green

1023
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,320
Speaker 1: being cast roll, and how to make a great unique stuffing.

1024
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 1: My mother in law makes very good cast roll, but

1025
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: curious how you do it. Thank you, Giada from Todd

1026
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: Fritz of The Dan Patrick Show. And if this was

1027
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 1: a male chef, you would not have reached out correctly. Okay,

1028
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: I do have a little crush on Giada, but that's

1029
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: besides of what I do want to know how to

1030
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: mix the group. Has Gianda reached out to you? Does not?

1031
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: Just yet? I'm not going to be insulted because I'm

1032
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 1: gonna give her like a three day window. What Thanksgiving

1033
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: still a few weeks away. What if Gianna reaches out

1034
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: and gives you a step by step great castro green

1035
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: bean casserole with a great unique stuffing you don't cook.

1036
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 1: I would print it out, a hand it to my

1037
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: wife and say can I pick up a couple of

1038
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: the ingredients while you. If Gianna does not respond to you,

1039
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: I want you to make us a great green being

1040
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: casserole with a unique stuffing. There's a very good chest.

1041
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 1: She's probably not going to respond to me personally. And

1042
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: then even if she does, it to probably be the

1043
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: assistant to the assistant to the intern to the assistant.

1044
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 1: So this was your opening to flirt with Gianna. You

1045
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: do do you out there? She was asking a ques

1046
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: But wait, she's not being phony. She genuinely wants her

1047
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: followers and people that like her to tsk her questions.

1048
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 1: I asked her a question, todd, people who cook might

1049
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 1: reach out to her. You just said your mother in

1050
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 1: law makes a great version of this dish, right, because

1051
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: I didn't want her to take it the wrong way

1052
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:01,839
Speaker 1: that I was like being foe in her. But why

1053
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: don't you just have your mother in law make the dish?

1054
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: She does and she will, but Jadika might maybe makes

1055
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: a super fantastic one. Guess when I thought that this

1056
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: was the be all end all that my mother in

1057
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: law makes, Giada's would probably at least a match that

1058
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: were you flirting with her. I don't know if flirting

1059
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: was the word, because I did say mother in lawnch

1060
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: means I'm married and I'm taking it. I am curious

1061
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 1: if she would respond. You could tell she must have

1062
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 1: been terribly disappointed to hear that you were taken not available.

1063
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: Let's put it this way. Have I checked many many

1064
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 1: times on my phone to see if she's responded. How

1065
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: do you get to the point where you find out

1066
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 1: that Giada is open to suggestions about I follow on

1067
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: Twitter and it popped up between something from Albert Breer

1068
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 1: and something for the Broncos, and I'm like, well, she's

1069
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: asking you a question. You know I'm gonna answer this question.

1070
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 1: See what happens. But your mother in law makes this dish.

1071
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: She makes a very good one, and she's coming up

1072
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:56,399
Speaker 1: in a few weeks. God bless I. We're looking forward

1073
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: to the Green being Castle, but I wanted to I

1074
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 1: still want to save if Giada will respond on with

1075
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 1: with her ideas for Thanksgiving treats, well, Katy Perry did

1076
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,720
Speaker 1: tweet to the show a couple of years ago. It's possible.

1077
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 1: It has to be your attitude in life. Yes, uh, yes,

1078
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 1: the last time she's ever recognized us, by the way

1079
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: the show exists, Yeah, it's okay. Take the one time,

1080
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: it was it one and done a one timer? Yes?

1081
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 1: Does the IT team have full green light to reach

1082
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 1: out to Gia. Yes you do, Yes, you do, as

1083
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: if we hadn't already. Yes, yes, of course if you

1084
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: want to see something very entertaining. Who Todd Fritz follows

1085
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: on social Media's fine, it'll be like a Pete family

1086
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 1: and then eighteen local weathercaster women. Well, nobody knows local

1087
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 1: news like Todd does. He doesn't know the local news.

1088
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: He knows those who deliver the local news. Shout out

1089
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 1: to Jen Burnstein and Rachel Frank and Kene Male not

1090
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: NBC thirty. I'm not shy about it. My wife knows

1091
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: about I make comments which is inappropriate. Then shows my

1092
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: being instituted secure. Todd watches the local news with the

1093
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: sound down. I do all good. Have the pictures with

1094
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: the weather. I could see the cloud with the rain covering.

1095
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: I don't need to hear her say to rain too.

1096
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 1: I see it on the five day foot. Yeah, that's

1097
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: a great I Team report. Paulie, well done. Thanks for

1098
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to

1099
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday morning nine to noon Eastern

1100
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: or six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find

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00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: your local station for the Dan Patrick Show at Fox

1102
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 1: Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day

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00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app by searching f s R, or

1104
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: stream us live on the Peacock app. Mark Stein covers

1105
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: the NBA for The New York Times. He's been covering

1106
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 1: the NBA since nineteen ninety four, and I wanted to

1107
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: have him on because he gave me, well, the headline

1108
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: writers the New York Times gave me the headline the

1109
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 1: NBA's five hundred million dollars hope for the holidays, as

1110
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: we're not sure when the season is going to start,

1111
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 1: and Mark kind enough to join us. So what's at

1112
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 1: stake here? What's in play for this decision? And when

1113
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 1: do you think this decision happens? Mark? I think we're

1114
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: gonna get it this week, and I think we're gonna

1115
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: get the pre Christmas start. There are obviously, naturally a

1116
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 1: few teams that don't want to start that quick, with

1117
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: the Lakers at the top of the list, But because

1118
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: the NBA has been trying to convince the players that

1119
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 1: at least five hundred million is at stake if the

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00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 1: start isn't closer to Christmas and I think they're succeeding

1121
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 1: in that effort. You know, that revenue that's at stake

1122
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: is what's going to drive this thing and what's going

1123
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: to get the season started way sooner than any of

1124
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: a spot when we were in the bubble. In the bubble,

1125
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: people were saying it could be February, it could be March.

1126
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 1: But I think we will find out this week that

1127
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: is it is starting Christmas week. But if I look

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00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 1: at the rank and file, I don't know does this

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00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: come down to a vote? Mark? How did they decide

1130
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 1: if they're going to play December twenty second or they're

1131
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: going to play January thirteen. Theoretically it comes down to

1132
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: a vote, but as we saw before the restart, if

1133
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: form holds, the union will just have player reps vote.

1134
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: That's the way they did it when they decided to

1135
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: restart the season. Unless the union unexpectedly breaks form, it's

1136
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 1: going to be a vote of thirty player reps as

1137
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 1: opposed to four hundred and fifty players. So basically player

1138
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: rep union officials and player reps. They're spending this week,

1139
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 1: you know, talking to players, kind of giving them a

1140
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 1: chance to voice their opposition. But more and more I

1141
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: hear that. I think players understand that with this kind

1142
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: of money on the line, how much money they would

1143
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 1: lose waiting until January, it would be a shock if

1144
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 1: it's not Christmas week. So I think I think we're

1145
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 1: going to get the it's going to be crazy NBA

1146
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 1: Draft on November eighteenth. Free agency is going to be

1147
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 1: forty eight to seventy two hours. It'll start that quick

1148
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 1: after the draft, and by December one, teams are going

1149
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 1: to be in training camp. What if Lebron says I

1150
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 1: don't want to play the first month, that would be

1151
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 1: that would be Look, if anybody has the juice to

1152
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 1: pull that off, it's him. I don't want to jump

1153
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 1: in his head and try to predict it. I mean,

1154
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 1: you know, he I think if you really study it.

1155
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 1: He voiced opposition initially to I'm not playing when if

1156
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 1: there's no fans, and he changed his position on that.

1157
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 1: He initially was, you know it in late August after

1158
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 1: the Bucks staged their walk out of a playoff game.

1159
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 1: You know, Lebron, he said it the other night on

1160
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 1: HBO he gave serious thoughts to ending his bubble time

1161
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 1: right there and changed his mind then, And you know,

1162
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: with time. Will he say, you know what I'm gonna

1163
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:03,479
Speaker 1: play on Christmas? Only he knows, but that alone will

1164
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 1: not I don't think Lebron alone could stop this season

1165
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 1: from starting on Christmas. I just feel like there's too

1166
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 1: much momentum behind it. Now. Are we looking at regionalized bubbles?

1167
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 1: Are we done with bubbles completely for this upcoming So

1168
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna see it's gonna be everything you just talked

1169
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 1: about the NFL. I think the NBA is gonna be

1170
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 1: dealing with the same thing. They Nobody wants to do

1171
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 1: bubbles again. Teams want to play in their home markets.

1172
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 1: So I think what we're going to see again nothing

1173
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 1: is nothing is firm yet, but I think what we're

1174
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 1: going to see is teams in their home markets and

1175
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 1: the coronavirus will start to infiltrate the NBA like Baseball

1176
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 1: had to deal with, like the NFL is dealing with now,

1177
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 1: like so many top teams in international soccer dealing with.

1178
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think there's any way around it

1179
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 1: if teams want to play in their markets, But the

1180
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 1: appetite for doing the bubble again is pretty close to zero.

1181
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 1: James Harden available to see you on the market, No,

1182
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 1: not yet. Teams are monitoring for sure. Teams are curious

1183
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 1: because you know, all indications were that the two candidates

1184
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 1: that James Harden would have supported the most would have

1185
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 1: been either Ty Lou who went to the Clippers, or

1186
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 1: John Lucas, who's been on Mike d'antoni's staff the past

1187
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 1: four seasons and is really popular in that Houston locker room. Obviously,

1188
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 1: neither of those guys got the job in Houston. I

1189
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 1: think Houston made a good choice and very difficult circumstances.

1190
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 1: Stephen Silas is as highly regarded as an assistant coach

1191
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 1: can be in this league. He's been at it for

1192
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:47,919
Speaker 1: two decades, well regarded for his offensive mind and everywhere.

1193
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 1: He's been just incredibly well liked. Just one of the

1194
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 1: most well liked people in the NBA. So to walk

1195
01:03:55,920 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 1: into that situation, which I mean there's tension, Mike D'Antoni

1196
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 1: walked away, Darryl Moorey walked away, the Rockets have little

1197
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 1: flexibility to change their team. They have a new GM

1198
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 1: and rafel Stone and now Stephen Silas have to walk

1199
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 1: in there and get James Harden on board. That's not

1200
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 1: going to be easy. But go ahead, if you follow him.

1201
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 1: He's he's proven an ability to do that wherever he's been.

1202
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 1: I'll let you go with this. It feels like people

1203
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 1: are sleeping on the Golden State Warriors. That Steph coming back,

1204
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 1: Clay coming back, you still have Draymond, You got a

1205
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 1: high draft pick here? Or am I missing out on

1206
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 1: something because when we talk about title contenders, Yeah, I

1207
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 1: would have thought Golden State would be right there with

1208
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 1: the Lakers. Look, people don't want to say it, but

1209
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 1: I'll say it. I mean the Lakers, Hey, they took advantage,

1210
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 1: but the league was down this year. I mean it was,

1211
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 1: it did. It was a it was it was a

1212
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 1: factor in there. I mean, they obviously have the best

1213
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 1: duo in the league Lebron and Anthony Davis. They are

1214
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 1: the number one duo in the league and no one

1215
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 1: can touch that. But the supporting cast with Spotty Yeah,

1216
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 1: and the competition level just wasn't It wasn't at the

1217
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 1: level that we've seen over the past five years. That

1218
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 1: helped him. I look, the Warriors need size and athleticism,

1219
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 1: they do they. I mean, you gotta have that to

1220
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 1: counter Anthony Davis. But you know, I'll take my chances

1221
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 1: with Steph Curry, Klay Thompson coming off so much rest

1222
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 1: Draymond Green coming back. Let's see what they can do

1223
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 1: with Wiggins. They've got some trade assets to upgrade the roster.

1224
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 1: I totally agree with you. Is there a hot draft

1225
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 1: pick because it feels like nobody wants to be drafting

1226
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 1: up high. No, I mean the reality is this draft,

1227
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 1: there is there. You know, there is not a difference maker.

1228
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 1: And look, it's gonna be way too soon to know.

1229
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 1: These kids come in so young now that there are

1230
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 1: always surprises, you know. You know, Donovan Mitchell's the classic

1231
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 1: case of a few years ago. You know, he's you know,

1232
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 1: he's nowhere near the number one pick, and look at

1233
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 1: the difference maker he became. I mean, so there there,

1234
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 1: there's always the potential for surprise. But yeah, at the

1235
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 1: top of this draft there's a lot of uncertainty. And

1236
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 1: you know, Minnesota and Golden State they hold the top

1237
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 1: two picks, and no one will be surprised if either

1238
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 1: one trades out of it. Who's my guy? Denny Avidia

1239
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 1: Avida Denny Adia from Israel. Yeah, I hate to say

1240
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 1: I'm falling, I'm falling in like with him. I don't

1241
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 1: want to fall in love, but um, he's a lot

1242
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 1: of fun. Maybe this is Luca don Chick spill over Mark,

1243
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 1: but no, no, no, no no, don't do that to

1244
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 1: the kid. That's too much. Don't put that, don't put

1245
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 1: that on him. He looks good, he looks he's an

1246
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 1: interesting player, interesting player. The thing, when you and I

1247
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 1: were young, this league was teaming with wing players, and

1248
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 1: every NBA team had him, and now they don't. And

1249
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:57,440
Speaker 1: so that's why I think Avdia is an you know,

1250
01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:00,040
Speaker 1: he's he's a guy who's going to be able to

1251
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 1: play multiple positions, and he does have he does have

1252
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 1: great potential, and he's he will not go lower than

1253
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 1: six or seven. I mean, he's probably gonna go in

1254
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 1: that three to six range. But the Donchez comparisons don't

1255
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 1: help him because he's not going to have that kind

1256
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 1: of impact right off the bat. That's just too much

1257
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 1: to ask. And LaMelo ball, is he still hanging in?

1258
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 1: There's the number one pick. I would love to tell

1259
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 1: you I'm smart enough to tell you who will be

1260
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 1: the number one pick on November eighteenth, but I am not.

1261
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 1: All right, I am not That's fine, but I don't know.

1262
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 1: The only thing I've heard is that he's not good

1263
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 1: in interviews. I don't pay much stock into that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the much bigger concern is, you know, he's shooting. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is a you know, shot creators and wings who

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Speaker 1: can play multiple positions. That's what teams wants, you know,

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Speaker 1: guys who can make an impact with the ball. And

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Speaker 1: certainly you'll Mellow has the potential to run a team.

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Speaker 1: Flashy passing, he's got all that buys, but and he

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Speaker 1: shoot it. I mean, why the hell is that? His

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Speaker 1: dad's this basketball self proclaimed basketball genius, but he's got

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Speaker 1: two kids that can't shoot. I mean the same thing.

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Speaker 1: You know, Look my whole my whole family's from Israel.

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Speaker 1: I mean, i'm, i'm, I'm, I'm right there with you

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Speaker 1: in the Avidya fan club. Why is he a sub

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Speaker 1: sixty percent free throw shooter? Why is shooting so hard?

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Speaker 1: It shouldn't be that should be the first thing your master,

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Speaker 1: But it you know, we continue to see, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's there is such a premium on shooting. I mean,

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Speaker 1: look at what Look at where Duncan Robinson came from

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Speaker 1: to where he ended up now because he is an

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Speaker 1: elite shooter. I would be practicing that more than anything. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thank you, Mark. We appreciate your time. As always sounds good, guys,

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