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Speaker 1: Dearest John, It's been a fortnight since I felt your

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Speaker 2: Dear Sam, such it has since we started the Okay

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Speaker 2: story Tom podcast.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and I have a message for you, a delicious

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Speaker 4: Sincerely Sam.

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Speaker 2: But before that, thine, divine two minute outbreak must happen,

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Speaker 2: I bid thee farewell.

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Speaker 4: See you in two minutes.

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Speaker 2: My mother in law has been controlling our lives for

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Speaker 2: so long I can't take it anymore.

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Speaker 2: Grandpa, that's too dame back. This will be a lot,

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Speaker 2: Mother in law is a super controlling, manipulative, and self

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Speaker 2: Here is a snapshot of a few issues we've had

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Speaker 2: r slash Okay storytime subreddit. So when husband graduated from college,

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Speaker 1: We were married.

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Speaker 2: She then texted her son my husband. Their exchange is

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Speaker 4: I would like to see the baby.

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Speaker 2: When this happened, my family had only seen the baby once.

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Speaker 4: Over eight times. She drove, like that is sixteen hours

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Speaker 2: Well, it was born before Thanksgiving. This is coming up

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Speaker 2: Husband, Good morning. Yeah, we're limiting visits to one person

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Speaker 1: It's just unbelievable to me.

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Speaker 4: Girl, Who are you? Oscar the Grouch? Mmm?

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Speaker 2: Living in the trash?

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Speaker 2: This is just unbelievable to me. We already knew we

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Speaker 2: How many times has she been over? She can't compromise

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Speaker 2: oh brother, I feel like I got away with mine.

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Speaker 4: Don't know if you're gonna get away with yours.

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Speaker 2: We have other obligations on Sunday, and we work on Monday,

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Speaker 2: so the alternative times you gave me will not work.

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Speaker 2: As far as the baby's gifts, it's just some first

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Speaker 4: So meeting after.

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Speaker 1: Christmas defeats the purpose and takes away the fun.

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Speaker 4: I don't know a name. I wasn't raised this way.

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Speaker 2: You weren't raised this way, and we've certainly brought several

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Speaker 2: control that's being imposed on us. Oh my god, go

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Speaker 2: write the Magna carta or whatever. This is your four

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Speaker 4: You wench, just skill heads up and if you're so

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Speaker 4: probably wouldn't care. But you bring this, have you wait

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Speaker 2: I feel defeated, hurt, and angry. I seriously don't understand

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Speaker 2: I digress. You've been digressing the whole time, lady. Moving forward,

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Speaker 2: we will quietly wait for an invitation to see you

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Speaker 2: So please make sure we are not wrongfully accused of

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Speaker 2: Okay, I wasn't coming down to hang out or interrupt

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Speaker 4: Actually did happen?

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Speaker 4: Or one baby? And it was it was three guys?

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Speaker 2: Uh. I could not stay, nor did I ask to stay.

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Speaker 2: I was doing a drop off. That's it, a drop off.

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Speaker 4: I don't know GJ was mentioned early. I was right

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Speaker 4: My call was a courtesy call that I was going

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Speaker 4: how you put it, that's just ft up. You've made

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Speaker 2: Mind you, without any intention of staying, quick in, quick

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Speaker 5: Records are made to be broken. Records are made to

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Speaker 2: She's breaking a record.

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Speaker 4: Typists like hands have like blisters on them. I got

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Speaker 2: Stop and for the record, feel free to visit our

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Speaker 4: Ooh you had one that it got older and had

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Speaker 4: never do this to you.

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Speaker 5: Uh gj is Grand Junction.

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Speaker 4: That's what I love, The Grand Junction. Manjunction in Colorado.

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Speaker 2: After this, they had texted and arranged to come see

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Speaker 2: the VID and she flipped again because he didn't tell

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Speaker 2: told me that you have the VID. I'm so sorry

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Speaker 2: I don't want to make you any more angry than

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Speaker 2: I did not leave this unsaid. It feels like you've

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: Mind you, this is just two weeks later.

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Speaker 4: This is not too years later. This is not ten

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Speaker 2: This is fourteen days in the future.

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Speaker 4: But in baby years as like eternity. I don't know, dude,

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Speaker 4: You've missed so much hate. My brother is taller than

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Speaker 4: But point guard, he's probably gonna be center. Really, I'm

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna be the shortest in the family that big. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh, it feels like you cut me out of your

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Speaker 2: That's no secret. I'm a good mom, I've always been

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Speaker 2: Of course, I'm angry and hurt. I set a boundary

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Speaker 2: But I'm not going to argue and justify my parenting

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Speaker 4: Let's go.

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Speaker 2: It just got worse from there when who was in

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Speaker 2: it just got worse from there. When op was in

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Speaker 2: I received more information, and then you send a message

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Speaker 2: me to look like a horrible person. I've not cut

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Speaker 2: you out, but I'm definitely distant because I'm sick of

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Speaker 2: the manipulation when you don't.

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Speaker 4: Get your way. You are a great mom.

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Speaker 2: But you need to step back and respect the boundaries

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Speaker 2: I'm setting and allow me to be a parent. I

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Speaker 2: I often think about how all of this could have

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Speaker 4: Dude, this guy, this is textbook how to respond to anyone.

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Speaker 4: I bet this guy's emails or is no issues at work.

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Speaker 4: This is so clear communication Grade A, grade E a number.

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Speaker 2: One song extent A for absolutely stunning mother in law.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for taking the time to give me a

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Speaker 4: I don't feel like it's so condescending. It's like, I'm

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Speaker 4: sorry you feel that way. Yeah, it's like a version

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Speaker 4: of that. Thanks for your snapshot of your emotional window.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I appreciate the fact you communicated in a candid

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Speaker 2: I would never speak to you again because I'm just like,

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Speaker 2: you're so difficult.

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Speaker 4: I don't care. You're just upset someone told you to know.

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Speaker 2: Truly, all of this, all all of these paragraphs have

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Speaker 2: next week, it's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Husband replies.

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Speaker 2: All this revolves around me holding everyone accountable to the

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Speaker 2: same boundaries with the baby. But I'm not going to

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Speaker 2: put it up for discussion. Enough damage has been done

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Speaker 2: and that'll just.

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Speaker 4: Make it worse.

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Speaker 2: During all this, they have not tried to see the

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Speaker 2: arranged to see her. Mother in law has turned husband's

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Speaker 2: he hasn't seen them in six years. They're also going

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Speaker 4: What a bunch of winners they are.

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Speaker 2: It's now been twelve weeks since this started and the

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Speaker 2: Father in law came down at one point try to

445
00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,520
Speaker 2: work things out and ended up just placing blame on

446
00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:21,440
Speaker 2: husband and telling him he needed to call mother in

447
00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,720
Speaker 2: law and work things out. Since mother in law won't.

448
00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,120
Speaker 2: Husband has tried to open the door a few times

449
00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,600
Speaker 2: to move forward, but all mother in law cares about

450
00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,440
Speaker 2: is telling her side of the story and trying to

451
00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,600
Speaker 2: control how we parent our child. I know she is

452
00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,679
Speaker 2: completely gas lighting us and making a second guess. All

453
00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,120
Speaker 2: of this started because we had plans one day when

454
00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,840
Speaker 2: she wanted to come over. We do have an update here.

455
00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,119
Speaker 4: Please go low contact with this lady.

456
00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's she's it's yeah, she's not getting the point.

457
00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,800
Speaker 4: She isn't and she's not respecting any of her boundaries.

458
00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's just feeling like, well that was mean? Can

459
00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:53,880
Speaker 2: I be mean back? And it's like, I'm not even

460
00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,960
Speaker 2: being mean, I'm just telling you what happened.

461
00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:58,960
Speaker 4: It just it just drains me when I have to

462
00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,520
Speaker 4: deal with people like this. Update.

463
00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,919
Speaker 2: We had not heard from his mom since this until tonight.

464
00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,960
Speaker 2: Dear Husband's aunt and uncle are coming into town from out.

465
00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:07,879
Speaker 4: Of state in a few weeks.

466
00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,199
Speaker 2: His aunt texted the other day to let him know,

467
00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,680
Speaker 2: so we were thinking we could meet them for breakfast

468
00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,359
Speaker 2: and they could meet my baby. Tonight, Husband receives a

469
00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,840
Speaker 2: group text from his mom letting him and his brothers

470
00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,720
Speaker 2: know that they are having lunch one of the days

471
00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,560
Speaker 2: at their house, which is an hour and a half

472
00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,720
Speaker 2: away from where we live. This is the first time

473
00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,240
Speaker 2: husband has received any communication since January twenty seven. His

474
00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,840
Speaker 2: mother has caused problems on numerous occasions over the past

475
00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,560
Speaker 2: seven years we have been together. This most recent situation

476
00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,439
Speaker 2: was my tipping point and I've had enough. I wouldn't

477
00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,520
Speaker 2: let anyone else treat me the way I've allowed his

478
00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,760
Speaker 2: family to treat me. I also don't want my daughter

479
00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,960
Speaker 2: exposed to that. His family is all super passive, aggressive,

480
00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,719
Speaker 2: and I know they will make sideways comments if I go.

481
00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,080
Speaker 2: Anytime we have been at their house, they are all

482
00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,760
Speaker 2: talking crap about someone. That's just the type of people

483
00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,480
Speaker 2: they are. They're just rude and mean. His mother will

484
00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,680
Speaker 2: also try to play the victim in this whole situation,

485
00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,680
Speaker 2: like she's constant done in all of the text messages,

486
00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:09,720
Speaker 2: which I she has told everyone that we will cut

487
00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,800
Speaker 2: her out and are keeping my baby from her, which

488
00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,919
Speaker 2: is not true. We had plans back in February for

489
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,400
Speaker 2: them to see her and they blew it off. We're

490
00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,240
Speaker 2: not going to reach out and beg people to be

491
00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,600
Speaker 2: in my baby's life. If they want to see her,

492
00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,240
Speaker 2: they can reach out. If they cared about her at all,

493
00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,480
Speaker 2: or if she were a priority to them, they would

494
00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,479
Speaker 2: be involved in her life. It is pretty simple. All

495
00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,360
Speaker 2: we ask is that they give us a heads up

496
00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,320
Speaker 2: so we can plan to limit the number of people

497
00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,600
Speaker 2: the baby is around at one time, and to make

498
00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,000
Speaker 2: sure we don't have any other plans. As mentioned in

499
00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,600
Speaker 2: my other posts, his brother lives across the street from

500
00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,399
Speaker 2: us and hasn't seen her since she was a week old.

501
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,800
Speaker 2: Even though his parents live an hour and a half away.

502
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,440
Speaker 2: They have come to town on several different occasions that

503
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,440
Speaker 2: we know of, and haven't tried to see her. The

504
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 2: reason we know that is because they posted pictures on Facebook.

505
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:55,560
Speaker 4: What they want is for.

506
00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,120
Speaker 2: Husband to apologize to his mom, even though we did

507
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,480
Speaker 2: nothing wrong. Unless we bow to her and let her

508
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 2: control our lives, there will always be problems, especially when

509
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,479
Speaker 2: she doesn't get her way. All we have asked for

510
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,679
Speaker 2: is an apology from her so we can move forward.

511
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,520
Speaker 2: But all she cares about is being right? Wonder why,

512
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:13,959
Speaker 2: oh my god, one of these feels like she's been

513
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,920
Speaker 2: slighted now she needs justice, when really all she should

514
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,400
Speaker 2: care about is that you're her family and you have

515
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,000
Speaker 2: a new baby, and she should just respect your boundaries.

516
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,680
Speaker 4: His parents, she can't because it's crazy.

517
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 2: I do not want to go and sit in a

518
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 2: house where it's been made perfectly clear how they really

519
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 2: feel about me and my family.

520
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 4: I also don't want my four month.

521
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 2: Old passed around between at least ten different people, most

522
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 2: of whom she has never met. Well, you know, when

523
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 2: you're four months old, you haven't met most people, so

524
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 2: it was jokeing.

525
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 4: I digress the.

526
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 2: Few that she has met she had. Don't give me

527
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:51,160
Speaker 2: your fake stand up comedy laugh? Right, guy here, did

528
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 2: you know that wasn't real?

529
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 1: Was it?

530
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,919
Speaker 4: Will never know? You're so good at that. I'm a

531
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 4: good actor. He actually should get into acting. He's a

532
00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 4: pretty good laughing.

533
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 2: My baby gets super over stimulated really easily. She's also

534
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,159
Speaker 2: in that stranger danger phase where she starts crying around

535
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 2: people she doesn't know. His mom is super domineering, and

536
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,639
Speaker 2: I know the instant I walk in the door, she

537
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 2: will take my baby from me. I also know that

538
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,200
Speaker 2: if I say something, I'll be attacked. His mother has

539
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,680
Speaker 2: made these past four months absolutely miserable. It's not only

540
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 2: worn on me, but on husband as well. His whole

541
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,639
Speaker 2: family has turned against him and has wanted nothing to

542
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,199
Speaker 2: do with us until now, and it's only so she

543
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,119
Speaker 2: can put on a show for her sister. I am

544
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 2: super uncomfortable going to his parents' house with my baby,

545
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 2: and the thought of going is causing me a ton

546
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,920
Speaker 2: of anxiety and giving me panic attacks. I've struggled a

547
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 2: bit with postpardon impression and post part of anxiety since

548
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 2: having my baby four months ago, and this whole situation

549
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,680
Speaker 2: has not helped. I of course want to see husband's

550
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,159
Speaker 2: aunt and uncle and want them to meet my baby,

551
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 2: but I feel like the best situation to do this

552
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 2: is to meet them for breakfast.

553
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 4: Am I in the wrong for not wanting to go?

554
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 2: I feel like it's a lose lose situation. Up a date,

555
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 2: the number two since last April.

556
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 4: Here is the date.

557
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 2: I went against my better judgment and went to a

558
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 2: husband's parents' house last April to see his aunts and

559
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,959
Speaker 2: uncle who were in town, and it went as expected.

560
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,679
Speaker 2: I took the advice I got from a lot of

561
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 2: you and wore my baby, who was four months old

562
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 2: at that point. What maybe like it's like you wore

563
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 2: like you wore them like it was like a baby,

564
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 2: like a papoose of some kind, some kind of baby satchel.

565
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 4: Maybe what they did, or like.

566
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 2: They wore them out so that they'd be like napping.

567
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe, dude, this is a really bad time to

568
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 4: have a typo ope. I'm gonna be personally.

569
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: I like that.

570
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 2: It's she's wearing the baby so that no one can

571
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 2: take the baby away because it's.

572
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 4: A I can't even imagine that. I don't want to. Yeah,

573
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 4: like a harness. You've never seen people walking around with

574
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 4: a baby on them, I'll do. My dad love doing

575
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 4: that with my little brother. Yeah, and he got so

576
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 4: mad whenever they were like too big to do that

577
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 4: because he's like a giant. Okay, you guys have got

578
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 4: more yoked. He really did. You guys ever play plants

579
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 4: for zombies? Knew that one, and that's like super big

580
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,159
Speaker 4: baby born. Yeah, it's super big and he has a

581
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 4: baby on the back of him. That's what my dad

582
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 4: looked like. He was like a big bar like zombie

583
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 4: with a little guy on top throwing stone. He's like, right, yep, yep,

584
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 4: that was my dad.

585
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 2: During the actual visit, things were awkward and uncomfortable, but

586
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,199
Speaker 2: not horrible. I did let my mother in law and

587
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 2: father in law both hold my baby when we were alone.

588
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,880
Speaker 2: I was really pressured into it by husband's aunt, but whatever.

589
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 4: I allowed it.

590
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 2: Before we left, they asked if they could get some pictures.

591
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 2: Husband said sure, but I was going to still wear

592
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 2: my baby and not let everyone pass her around. Okay,

593
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,919
Speaker 2: so it was my theory. After we went home is

594
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 2: when things got ridiculous. Found out from my brother in

595
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 2: law that my mother in law was telling everyone that

596
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 2: I didn't let her hold my baby, which was a lie.

597
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 2: They also cut me out of the pictures they took

598
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 2: fast forward. We didn't talk to his parents again until September.

599
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 2: There was still attempts on mother in law's part. She

600
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,199
Speaker 2: kept sending stuff in the mail and texting husband. He

601
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,199
Speaker 2: kept telling her that we would move forward once we

602
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 2: received an apology.

603
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 4: Mmm, good luck with that.

604
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 2: Come September, brother in law reached out and said he

605
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 2: wanted to come over to talk with us about the

606
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 2: whole situation and he did. All he was doing was

607
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 2: being her flying monkey. He came with all the texts

608
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 2: printed out between dear husband and mother in law and

609
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 2: a husband and father in law and me and both

610
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 2: of them. It wasn't many since I wasn't having much contact.

611
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 2: He also came with screenshots of my Facebook mother in

612
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 2: law had deleted husband, myself, and my entire family from Facebook.

613
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 4: I just had to pause.

614
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 2: Really quickly to like, just again, if someone is this difficult,

615
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 2: just don't bother. I don't care if they're your mother

616
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,640
Speaker 2: in law, and you shouldn't either. This is a person

617
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 2: who is gonna do nothing but just drag going here.

618
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 4: I don't know my thought process. They are dragon, this

619
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 4: is an energy vampire. Family's family. It's hard to deal

620
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 4: with certain family members. It's these like this one is

621
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 4: the hardest.

622
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 2: Seems like final boss, dude. If it's me, I'm like, yeah,

623
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 2: no talkie until apology and then we'll see.

624
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's tough. It's tough situation. I hopefully will never

625
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 4: be in this, hopefully.

626
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 2: Shortly after she blocked my whole family, I did the

627
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 2: same thing to the rest of my in laws because

628
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 2: it was hurtful seeing all the posts they were making

629
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 2: brother in law through a fit and claim that I

630
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 2: restricted them all from Facebook, and I told him no,

631
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 2: I actually deleted you all. He kept calling me a

632
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 2: liar until I showed him my Facebook. And don't understand

633
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 2: why it was okay for mother in law to do it,

634
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 2: but I was out of line when I did it,

635
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 2: because mother in law can't do anything wrong. Brother in

636
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 2: law did apologize for not being there for us and

637
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 2: not being a part of the baby's life for the

638
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 2: past eleven months. He said he didn't know how to

639
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 2: handle the situation whatever. At one point he told husband

640
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 2: that he was acting just like his biological father, who

641
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 2: was an abusive and violent man, which really hurt my husband,

642
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 2: which happened to a brother in law he done. Long

643
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 2: story short, We just told brother in law that all

644
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 2: we wanted was an apology. He said mother in law

645
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 2: didn't even know what she needed to apologize for, which

646
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 2: we said, yeah, that's a problem, and first of all,

647
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 2: that's probably just a lie. Yep, she is exactly what

648
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 2: she would need to apologize for.

649
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 4: Because she's not gonna do it. I'm on your side now,

650
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 4: I'm off this boat. We are putting the anchor down

651
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 4: we're done. I'm swimming away.

652
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing is left to be said until we receive

653
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 2: an apology. A few hours after brother in law left,

654
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 2: husband and I got a group text from mother in

655
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: law saying, after talking to brother in law, I now

656
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 2: know what I'm supposed to apologize for. It was total bs.

657
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 2: After that, Husband texted back and set up a time

658
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 2: for us to go to their house and talk everything through.

659
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 2: After a lot of thought, I decided not to go,

660
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 2: and Husband went by himself. He was there for about

661
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 2: five hours. From what he said, his mom was super

662
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 2: apologetic and was crying disrepeatedly saying how sorry she was.

663
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Speaker 2: There were a few things he mentioned that she said

664
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 2: that were red flags to me, and I instantly had

665
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 2: this gut feeling that he was just manipulated, such as

666
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 2: still shifting the blame to me. And boy was I right? Unfortunately, Yeah,

667
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 2: because all those are just faked tears, gaslighting, and manipulating

668
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 2: my child.

669
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 4: Eh, your mom is so sorry.

670
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

671
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 4: I would be having a conversation with hubby pretty soon.

672
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 4: Where's the line? Yeah, this is a line. I don't

673
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 4: know what their home life is like. Maybe dear husband

674
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 4: is handling this very well. I'll be asking where's the

675
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 4: line with this all? I don't want this to be

676
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 4: the heavy vibes to be seeming through underneath the door

677
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 4: cracks of her home. We gotta get it out, yes please.

678
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 2: I agreed to let mother in law and father in

679
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 2: law come to our house during the baby's nap so

680
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 2: the four of us could talk. A few weeks after that,

681
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 2: I spent time writing up what I wanted to say

682
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 2: so I could cover everything I needed to. As typical

683
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 2: of anytime I brought up something she did or said,

684
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 2: she deflected, played victim and shifted the blame back onto me.

685
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 2: She was rude, mean and aggressive towards me.

686
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 4: And really quick pause, because not every a.

687
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 2: Person with stic personality disorder is like a crazy, toxic monster.

688
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 2: It's just like a behavioral pattern that can manifest those

689
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 2: kind of behaviors. We just wanted to say before anyone

690
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 2: thinks I'm just like a hater of all people who are,

691
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 2: it's not the case. It's actually really misunderstood in a

692
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 2: lot of ways. The silver lining was that husband was

693
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 2: there to witness all of it. At the end of

694
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 2: the talk, I threw my hands up and she said

695
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 2: she wasn't going to apologize when she didn't do anything wrong.

696
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 2: There it is there it is, she didn't do anything wrong.

697
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 2: My father in law spoke up and said we can

698
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 2: agree to disagree, and we decided to try to take

699
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 2: a step forward and start light communication with them again.

700
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 2: The people pleaser in me will be the end of me.

701
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 2: This conversation happened in October and I left not feeling

702
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 2: any real resolve, but again hoped things would at least

703
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 2: be civil for the baby and husband. It wasn't even

704
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 2: three weeks later when the bs started up again. Mother

705
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 2: in law started using brother in law even more as

706
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 2: her flying monkey, and he was calling quite a bit,

707
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 2: trying to manipulate and guilt trip my husband. Mother in

708
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 2: law's behaviors did change, but they became more passive, aggressive,

709
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 2: and happened behind the scenes more often when it came

710
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 2: to them seeing the baby. Since Halloween of twenty twenty two,

711
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 2: they have seen her four times, all of which I

712
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 2: initiated and invited them to a trunk or treat a

713
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 2: few days before Christmas, swimming at the end of January,

714
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 2: and an Easter egg drop in April. They never want

715
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 2: anything to do with her unless it's convenient for them,

716
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 2: or they can use the baby to make themselves look good.

717
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 2: Mother in law is one of those social media gramdmas.

718
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 2: They have asked a few times in between to see her,

719
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 2: but it was always for events that were not appropriate

720
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 2: for a child, things that we weren't comfortable with, or

721
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 2: last minute asks. For example, they asked us to bring

722
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 2: the baby to a hunting banquet so they could show

723
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 2: her off.

724
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 4: What. Okay, now I know where you live and I

725
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 4: have seen this happen before, this whole situation.

726
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 5: You want to give us like a like a little

727
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 5: They're definitely.

728
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,959
Speaker 4: From Georgia, South Carolina, Virginia or Kentucky.

729
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 5: What is a hunting banquet?

730
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 4: Hunting banquet, I'm just gonna put it out there. Never

731
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 4: heard of it, but it's probably like where all these

732
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 4: guys get together and they're like, hey, we're gonna auction

733
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 4: off some you know, pupius and some like hunting stands

734
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 4: and some feeding baby and it's like, you know, hey,

735
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 4: this is like what that looks like. I'm not sure

736
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 4: how high tech this is or like if it's just

737
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 4: more than deer and coyotes and stuff, if it's like

738
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 4: lions and stuff like, but if it's like exata hunting

739
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 4: is yeah, that's I don't like that. But if it's a.

740
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 2: Wag, the only time you should hunt a line is

741
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 2: if it's hunting you.

742
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 4: You have no other choice.

743
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 2: But that's my Yeah, they wanted to show her off

744
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 2: or they called us a few hours before asking to

745
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 2: come over, even though we've told them before we need

746
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 2: more notice than There's also been some passive aggressive behavior

747
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,719
Speaker 2: towards me. When we went swimming, I invited them and

748
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 2: they just watched. She started asking me about it, how

749
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 2: often we go and if dear husband comes. Husband told

750
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 2: her that he doesn't go, and that it's something baby

751
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 2: and I do together when he is working. Then after swimming,

752
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 2: she made this huge deal about how she brought me

753
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 2: a pool pass. I thought that was super nice of

754
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 2: her because I know they are pricey. But the next

755
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 2: time I went and tried to use it, I wasn't

756
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 2: allowed to because she put it in husband's name. In

757
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 2: my opinion, that was deliberate. The final straw for me

758
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 2: was the egg drop on top of mother in law

759
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 2: and father in law, husband's grandma and grandpa, aunt and

760
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 2: uncle who live out of town came. That was fine,

761
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 2: but we knew mother in law had been talking poorly

762
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 2: about me beforehand, because husband's aunt attacked me verbally at

763
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 2: the egg drop in front of my baby, mother in

764
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 2: law and grandmother in law about things she wouldn't have

765
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 2: known unless mother in law had said something, right, because

766
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 2: of course she's gossiping and spreading bs all around.

767
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 4: Don't you hate it when your parents drop some hot

768
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 4: gossip about you just for some clout at family dinner.

769
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 2: Where it is the husband bear is the husband right now,

770
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 2: he should be right up on her. Of course, mother

771
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 2: in law and grandmother in law didn't step in or

772
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 2: say anything while she was verbally attacking me. We had

773
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 2: been invited to mother in law's house on Easter Day,

774
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 2: but chose not to go based on past experiences. It's

775
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 2: also hard with baby's nap schedule and they live an

776
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 2: hour and a half away. However, dear husband told mother

777
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: in law we weren't coming because he needed a day

778
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 2: to relax since he's working so much and going to school.

779
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 2: That's why I invited them to the egg drop. Anyway,

780
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 2: Husband's aunt starts an argument with me in the middle

781
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 2: of the egg drop about how I am letting my

782
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 2: baby control me. And that I should be controlling her,

783
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: and how rules are meant to be broken all over

784
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 2: the fact that my baby takes a nap.

785
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 4: You should not be on your baby's schedule. You should

786
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 4: not let your baby tell you when it's ready to eat.

787
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 4: Don't let your baby make you leave the room just

788
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 4: because you got to change it. Be in control of

789
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 4: your baby.

790
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 2: Let me mention she was sixteen months old at this time.

791
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 2: Then she starts in on me about how I'm to

792
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 2: blame for us not attending Easter. The next day, husband

793
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 2: said that he heard my mom voice and realized something

794
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 2: was going on, so he stepped in and shut it down.

795
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 2: On top of that, I was once again cropped out

796
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 2: of the Easter pictures with my baby.

797
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 4: It was at that point that I decided to go

798
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 4: no contact.

799
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 2: I've been so stressed out that I've been getting sick,

800
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 2: having headaches, and losing a lot of weight. I of

801
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 2: course let husband know that I didn't expect him to

802
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 2: go no contact as well, but I needed him to

803
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 2: support my decision. Well, today he went no contact. You

804
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 2: can see his post here. Oh I am so proud

805
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: of him. He is struggling with this decision as to

806
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 2: be expected, but we both finally took the step and

807
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 2: are putting ourselves first. That is a hard thing to

808
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 2: do as a people pleaser. And here is the husband's post. Everybody,

809
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 2: he is the husband's post.

810
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 4: I would like to hear from this guy. Seems like

811
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 4: a good I would like to work with this guy.

812
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 2: What I want to know is why, Like why anyone

813
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 2: was given a chance to even go at op when

814
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 2: they know going in there essentially going into enemy territory?

815
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 2: Like why was the husband and the wife not the

816
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 2: unit that they should have been. You should have been

817
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 2: running defense that whole time.

818
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 4: You know it's the chronic PP bro. You got chronic Pepe.

819
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 4: You know he's got CPP. You got CPPE chronic people

820
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 4: pleasing you have it? Please call call our.

821
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 2: Number one eight hundred CPP. Oh okay, so here's the

822
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 2: husband's post. Unfortunately, things have not gotten better since that post.

823
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: And I just sent the email below and blocked my

824
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 2: mom on everything. I'm just looking for some reassurance from

825
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 2: you all. With it being such a major decision. This

826
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 2: no contact is particularly hard because I know it ultimately

827
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,720
Speaker 2: means no contact with my entire side of the family.

828
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 2: And by the way, uh, you don't have to go

829
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 2: no contact with this side of the family. All you

830
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,759
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831
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834
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Speaker 4: Basically until your ears fall off.

835
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: And uh.

836
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 4: Here's the email from my husband.

837
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 2: Oh boy, dear mom, I am writing to you today

838
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 2: to talk about our relationship. It has been a long

839
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,760
Speaker 2: and difficult journey, but I have come to a decision

840
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 2: that I feel is necessary for myself and my family.

841
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 2: We have decided to go no contact with you for now.

842
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 2: This decision isn't a niche reaction to one big event,

843
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 2: but is a very difficult one that has been carefully

844
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 2: considered after a lot of small actions that have slowly

845
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 2: chipped away until this finally struck chre. I want to

846
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 2: emphasize that this decision was not made lightly and it

847
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 2: was not meant to hurt you or punish you in

848
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 2: any way. Rather, it is a decision that we have

849
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 2: made to protect ourselves from further emotional pain and distress.

850
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 2: Over the years, I have struggled to maintain a relationship

851
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 2: with you. Due to the hurtful and damaging behaviors that

852
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: have repeatedly surfaced. I've tried to communicate my concerns to you,

853
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 2: but unfortunately it seems that my words have fallen on

854
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 2: deaf ears. As a result, I have come to the

855
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 2: realization that I need to prioritize my own mental health

856
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 2: and the well being of my family. I hope you

857
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 2: can understand that this decision is necessary for our own

858
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 2: healing and growth. I want to express my gratitude for

859
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 2: the positive experiences and support you have provided me with

860
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 2: in the past. I genuinely appreciate those moments. However, for

861
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 2: the sake of our own well being and personal growth,

862
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 2: we have decided to take some time apart. I hope

863
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 2: that in time you can find a way to rebuild

864
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:19,960
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865
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't either.

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00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 3: thing on the ar slash okay, storytime subured it.

881
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 1: So.

882
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 3: My parents live a bit away from each other. My

883
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 3: father had taken us suddenly, so we were all at

884
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 3: his place when I started to feel itchy. I told

885
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 3: him about it and we went to the doctor.

886
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: I had lice.

887
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 3: Uh not sure how. The only time I share anything

888
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 3: for the head is at home. The doctor checked my

889
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 3: brother and sister's heads. My sister only had a few,

890
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 3: but my brother, well, he.

891
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:25,439
Speaker 1: Had a lot.

892
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 3: The doctor gave us the script for the shampoo and

893
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 3: comb and said to my father, you need to take

894
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 3: special care of her hair, as it is longer and

895
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 3: thicker than your other two children's hair. My father nodded,

896
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 3: and off we went. I was hopeful to have this

897
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 3: resolved quickly, as I had lice before. Each time was

898
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 3: with my mother, whom would just use the comb but afterwards,

899
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 3: But sometime nitpicked my hair so she could get all

900
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 3: the little buggers off me and I would always be

901
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 3: lice free in three days or less with her method.

902
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 3: My father got on his cell phone as he was

903
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 3: driving dangerous, I know, and called my mom. He had

904
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 3: her on speakerphone so we could all hear. She picked up,

905
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,919
Speaker 3: and as she was starting to say hello, my father

906
00:37:59,000 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 3: snapped the.

907
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: Can'ts have light? Why did you give the kids lice?

908
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 4: Oh? Why did you do that?

909
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 3: I heard my mother say, I told you to check

910
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 3: their hats. That my brother's name has a strange habit

911
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 3: of giving them, and he likes to shove his hats

912
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 3: on his sister's heads. More so my name, since she

913
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 3: hates people messing with her head or hair. However, she

914
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 3: does quite well with nitpicking, said my mother in a

915
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 3: calm voice. Nitpicking, asked my father. My mother told him

916
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 3: about the methods that worked best with each of us

917
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 3: and how to do it, even saying she could send

918
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 3: video demos if.

919
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: He was too confused.

920
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 4: That's nice, My father dismissed this little SOPs.

921
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 3: I got this he said before he hung up, not

922
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 3: even saying goodbye. He drove us home after we picked

923
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 3: up the shampoo. For some odd reason, he didn't give

924
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,240
Speaker 3: it to me and my siblings.

925
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 4: So he's giving you false hope.

926
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: That's crazy, that's even We'll get.

927
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 4: The shampoo just to make you feel like you have

928
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 4: some hope.

929
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 3: The next day, our stepmother took us out and said,

930
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 3: I'm not comfortable going out with lice. I don't want

931
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,919
Speaker 3: to infect others. To my stepmother, she smiled, your father

932
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 3: told me all about that. We've got it covered. We're

933
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 3: going swimming today.

934
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: Florine will kill the lice, heels, everything, Just stay underwater

935
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: for a long time. Oh and we got a nice

936
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 1: surprise for you. Let's go, she said with a smile.

937
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 4: Oh no, all right, dude, this is smart.

938
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 3: So we got lunch at a restaurant in town. Stepmom

939
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 3: was trying to make me feel better, but kind of

940
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 3: hard to do when she ordered me her favorite food,

941
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 3: which I refused to eat. She takes us to the pool.

942
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 3: I was ready to go in, but she grabbed me.

943
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: Not you, not yet. You get a spa day first.

944
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 4: This sounds like a pretty good day.

945
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, she sounds like terrifying.

946
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 5: What's something that you do with lice? Deep at like

947
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 5: mayo in your hair? That's what it is.

948
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 4: You put peanut butter in there too. Really, sometimes you

949
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 4: put like some sort of soap.

950
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: I never had lace, so I don't read.

951
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 4: I've never had apple vinegar. You also put some mustard

952
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 4: in there sometimes to do it, put like coca cola

953
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 4: or some mountain dews.

954
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 5: I can't tell if you're being serious or not. Now

955
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 5: I thought you were just going on some South stuff.

956
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 3: Dude, don't worry about them. Others we watched them. I

957
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 3: looked back worried. But my siblings don't worry about them.

958
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 3: Others will watch them, said my stepmother as she took

959
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 3: me to a nearby hair salon. We entered, and I

960
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 3: was feeling super anxious. I'm really picky about my hair

961
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 3: and only like it when I go to the places

962
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 3: my mother takes me to.

963
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: As the last place.

964
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 3: My father got my haircut at camp made me look

965
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 3: like someone cut my hair in the dark. We are

966
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 3: your one o'clock appointments, said my stepmom. The woman looked

967
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 3: at me and said, hu, but her hair, said the

968
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 3: woman at the desk. My step mom was quick.

969
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 1: We have the money.

970
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 3: My husband called and already ordered the haircut. Our little

971
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 3: girl is looking forward to it, said my step mom.

972
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 3: I looked at her confused, but I asked surprised. The

973
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 3: woman behind the desk side and took me to the back.

974
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 3: She washed my hair and kept apologizing to me. I

975
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 3: had no idea why that was until we got to

976
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 3: the chair and she started to lop off my hair. No,

977
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 3: I was staring surprised. Remember to shave it as close

978
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 3: as you can to the skin. It has to be

979
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 3: really short. Her hair is so thick, no one will notice.

980
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 3: My stepmother called from the waiting area. I'm ready to

981
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 3: cry at this moment, as my hair is disappearing right

982
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 3: before my eyes. People are I'm muttering. I had no

983
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 3: idea what they were saying, but in my mind at

984
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 3: the time, I thought they were talking about how horrible

985
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 3: I looked with short hair. After a while, since they

986
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 3: had to cut my hair first, then buzz since my

987
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 3: hair was so long n wavy, I now had a

988
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 3: hair cut shorter than my brother's. This is like, that's

989
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 3: that's abuse. These parents should never be allowed to be

990
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 3: around you ever.

991
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: Again. I go back to my.

992
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 3: Stepmom, who was paying the woman who asked, what did

993
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 3: she do wrong for her to get this, she asked,

994
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 3: before giving me a lollipop.

995
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: Nothing.

996
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 3: Thought she would feel cooler this way, as summer's coming,

997
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 3: said my stepmother. She then took me back to the

998
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 3: pool and told me to soak my head to end

999
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 3: any leftover lice. We swam for a bit more before

1000
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 3: heading home. We all showered, each of us now allowed

1001
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 3: to use lice, getting rid of shampoo, and then had

1002
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 3: our hair combed.

1003
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: However, my father looked at my hair. There's stale, some

1004
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,439
Speaker 1: air left. Her hair is too thick.

1005
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 3: I am not able to deal with this people. This

1006
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 3: guy should not be a parent, he said, before he

1007
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 3: got a razor and shaved off the stubble on my head. Well,

1008
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 3: I had no more lice, but I had no more

1009
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 3: hair either. I was upset by this and hid in

1010
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 3: my room for the rest of the visit, refusing to

1011
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 3: come out except to eat or go to the bathroom.

1012
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 3: If I was this person's mother, I would literally go

1013
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 3: to court. I would go to court to never allow

1014
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 3: this man to ever be around my child again. Our

1015
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 3: dad dropped us off out my mom's a week later,

1016
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 3: when she wasn't home. He wasn't stupid. You knew what

1017
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 3: she would do if she saw my head. Well, my

1018
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 3: mom got home and noticed we were already there a

1019
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 3: few hours early. She was happy to see us until

1020
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 3: she saw my head. I can still hear her screens.

1021
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,959
Speaker 3: She called my father over. He arrived about twenty minutes later.

1022
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 3: What did you do to our daughter's hair? That's right,

1023
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 3: she snapped, pointing to me, as I was hiding my

1024
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 3: head under a blanket so not to show my hairless head.

1025
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 3: She had lice. I fixed it. She shouldn't have thick

1026
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 3: air to begin with.

1027
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: What do you mean she shouldn't have thick air? What

1028
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: what do you mean she shouldn't have thick air?

1029
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 4: Dude, as her hair? Just get the papers together. You

1030
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 4: don't have to worry about a thick air anymore. Like literally, yeah,

1031
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 4: we don't worry about it.

1032
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: You have thick hair. I have thick air, so our

1033
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: kid is gonna have thick air. You shaved her bald,

1034
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: yet did nitpicking with the other two? She hissed, No,

1035
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 1: just to comb we still got lice.

1036
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 3: Shy my sister, No, you don't, and why should I

1037
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 3: kids shouldn't even have lice, so she shouldn't have thick air.

1038
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: Kids shouldn't have lice. You shouldn't have kids.

1039
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 4: Bing bang boom bot boom bob sam.

1040
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 1: Snap, my father. My mother rolled her eyes.

1041
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 3: You shaved your daughter's head because you were too lazy

1042
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 3: to do your job as a father. Do you know

1043
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 3: why your daughter's hair was so long, snap, my mother,

1044
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,479
Speaker 3: Because you think she looks hute that way, Snap, my father.

1045
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 3: My mother turned to me, tell your father why you

1046
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 3: were growing your hair, she said, more, trying not to

1047
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 3: sound harsh with me. I peeked my head out. I

1048
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 3: wanted to look like my favorite princess for a punzel. No,

1049
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 3: my father gaveed it me.

1050
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: You told her to say that she likes her hair

1051
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: like this, then why is she hid? Snap, my mother.

1052
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 3: This went on for about an hour until my father

1053
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 3: left in a huff, telling everyone that I wanted to

1054
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 3: be bald.

1055
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,919
Speaker 4: Yep, that she really wanted guys.

1056
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 3: I was crying at this point as I felt so misunderstood.

1057
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 3: My mother gave me a stuffed animal and told me

1058
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 3: to relax in my room. After an hour or so,

1059
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,760
Speaker 3: my mom showed up with a poorly made yarn wig honey.

1060
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 3: I called up some friends who are currently making you

1061
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 3: hair hat so you can at least pretend.

1062
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 4: You have hair.

1063
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 3: I know how much you like your hair. Now listen,

1064
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 3: I might still be mad at him, but don't worry.

1065
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 1: Hair grows. You will have your hair back in no time.

1066
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 2: Ah.

1067
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 3: Yeah that her father's by the way. You know what

1068
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 3: doesn't listening to full episodes with stories just like this.

1069
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 3: Just go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or iHeartRadio and search up. Okay,

1070
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 3: story time, but there is a little bit left to

1071
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 3: the story. Literally do If I was his mother, I

1072
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 3: would go to court to make sure that he lost custody.

1073
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, but how much to go bald?

1074
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 3: How much would I go to go bald? No, I

1075
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 3: don't think it capends what it's for, doubt I guess so.

1076
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: But I don't think I.

1077
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 4: Get money in your pocket? How much? I don't know

1078
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 4: ten grand all right, twenty.

1079
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't really do things.

1080
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 4: Fifty to fifty grand me, I don't know.

1081
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: I'd have to think about it.

1082
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 5: I want to.

1083
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 3: If it was just to cut my hair, I'd do it,

1084
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 3: but like, like, if it was to cut my hair short,

1085
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 3: I do that, But like I don't know about.

1086
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 5: No like you're going full on Viva vendetta. Natalie Portman

1087
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 5: shaved head.

1088
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 4: I'm a dude, Like, what's what's three point five percent

1089
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 4: of the Houselifornia plus seven k plus ten k? I

1090
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 4: don't know that's what i'd.

1091
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 2: Do with that?

1092
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: Finish this story off?

1093
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 5: But you ever read lice, Riley? Because I have not

1094
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 5: I near your siblings.

1095
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 4: No, okay, I feel my mother would behead us if

1096
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 4: we ever did that. She she does not like throw up.

1097
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 4: I don't even want to ask her what she'd do

1098
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 4: if we ever got lies.

1099
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, licens is like not very common

1100
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 5: out here.

1101
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1102
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 5: Maybe it is, yeah, it is.

1103
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1104
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: I've never all the time at my school growing up.

1105
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 5: Really, I've never met anyone who has had lice.

1106
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: My mom was like, don't share hats, don't share brushes

1107
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: for what?

1108
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 4: And you know a lot of people exactly.

1109
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 3: I start asking, But we have more to the story.

1110
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 3: I spent that summer wearing lots of funny hats. You

1111
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 3: tried to shave me balled a few more times after that,

1112
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 3: but my mom had told my siblings to not let

1113
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 3: him or my stepmom get near me with any hair

1114
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,720
Speaker 3: cutting places or devices. And whenever my father tries something

1115
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 3: we won't like, my mother reminds him. His mistakes will

1116
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 3: take months to correct. And if you ask about the

1117
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 3: time with my mom, she will growl about how she's

1118
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 3: still mad at him. Why is he around you? I literally,

1119
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 3: why is he around you still? Why was he allowed

1120
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 3: to be around you? No clue, but that's the end

1121
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 3: of that story.

1122
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,959
Speaker 1: My mother in law causes chaos every holiday. This year,

1123
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: I put my foot down. You gotta put your foot down.

1124
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: Stop the chaos. Stop it. We refuse to spend all

1125
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: of Christmas Day with my mother in law and forget

1126
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: about my family like she wanted. So every year, on

1127
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: Christmas Eve, my husband, twenty nine year old male, and

1128
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 1: I twenty six year old female, spend time with my

1129
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: husband's family. This year, my husband and mother in law

1130
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: got sick food poisoning from work. They work for the

1131
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,720
Speaker 1: same company, but in different departments. Therefore we were unable

1132
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: to attend. By the way, this comes from anonymous TN

1133
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: and if you want to submit your own stories, just

1134
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 1: go to the our slush okay storage tub so good

1135
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: would go. On Christmas Day, we wanted to spend time

1136
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: with my family. I haven't always had a good relationship

1137
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: with my side, but my little brother had passed away

1138
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, and since then my father and

1139
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: stepmother are more like my mom thought help and got clee.

1140
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 1: All of us have been working on our relationship. On

1141
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: Christmas Day, my mother in law wanted all of us, her,

1142
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 1: my husband, myself, and our children to go two towns

1143
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: over to her other son's house to celebrate. I let

1144
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: her know that we had plans with my family for weeks,

1145
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: but we would only be gone for two hours at

1146
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 1: the most since my husband had to work later that night.

1147
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: We also wanted to spend time at home so the

1148
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,280
Speaker 1: kids could enjoy their gifts. I asked her to stop

1149
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: by our house when she got back into town so

1150
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: that we could be together if she felt like it.

1151
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 1: She absolutely flipped out and twisted my words around. She

1152
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,720
Speaker 1: said that I was choosing others over her and claimed

1153
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: that I said she wasn't good enough to be with them.

1154
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: Mind you, I never said any of that. DC's are

1155
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: children every week, sometimes a couple of times a week.

1156
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: All day on Christmas, she blew up my phone, pusting

1157
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: at me and putting words in my mouth. This isn't

1158
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: the first time she's used us as the old scapegoat.

1159
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: I'm tired of the bs. It's like she wants to

1160
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: be in control of everything, and if things don't go

1161
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: exactly how she wants, he throws a fit. My husband

1162
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: normal handles her, but this time I had just had enough.

1163
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: I had told her that she was putting words in

1164
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: my mouth and I wasn't going to put my energy

1165
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: into her. My husband muted her contact on our phone

1166
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 1: so we weren't constantly getting texts and calls from her.

1167
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,439
Speaker 1: US not responding apparently made her a hundred times more mad,

1168
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,879
Speaker 1: because she blew up both of our phones all day

1169
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: and night. I finally sent her a text telling her

1170
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: I was done. I told her that she could be

1171
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 1: mad and I didn't care anymore, and I was tired

1172
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: of every holiday being full of drama. I obviously didn't

1173
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: start this, and she won't use us to take her

1174
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: anger out on anymore. Every holiday, my mother in law

1175
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: blames someone for ruining her day, her birthday, Easter, Halloween, Thanksgiving,

1176
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: for the July. On Thanksgiving, she was mad. Her other

1177
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: son left early so that they could visit with his

1178
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,240
Speaker 1: wife's family too. On her birthday, we had a surprise

1179
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: planned where my husband and children were going to surprise

1180
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 1: her with her favorite ice cream cake and heartfelt guard. Well,

1181
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,479
Speaker 1: my husband and kids were on their way to her house,

1182
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 1: she texted me saying that nobody can cares about her

1183
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 1: and that she knew nobody would even put in any

1184
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 1: effort to make her have a good day. When my

1185
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: son was one years old, before the VID really hit

1186
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: and before testing for it was common, my son and

1187
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: I were so sick. We had a fever and the

1188
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: poor baby had to change clothes twice before we even

1189
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 1: got out the door to go to the Christmas Eve celebration.

1190
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: We're late that time due to that, and she's a

1191
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: fit about us being late. Over the summer, she started

1192
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: a huge fight with our other daughter in law, my

1193
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,479
Speaker 1: sister in law, because she had been staying there while

1194
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: she was looking for a job, but slowly started moving

1195
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,959
Speaker 1: all of her belongings into their home and using brother

1196
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 1: in laws of eagle at all hours without asking. Sister

1197
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: in law had enough. Brother in law was in another

1198
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: town training for a new job, and brother in law

1199
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 1: told her that she needed to leave. She then claim

1200
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: that they were all supposed to start living together. The

1201
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: day after that, she told us that she had gotten

1202
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: into a four car pile up wreck because she was

1203
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: so upset over sister in law and of course this

1204
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: is all this is your fault. When I tried to

1205
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: get to her to check on her, she said that

1206
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: it wasn't that bad and that she was able to

1207
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: drive away.

1208
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 3: Sorry, you drove hopefully like you first got everyone's insurance.

1209
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, taking to see if everyone's okay. But we saw

1210
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: no marks on the vehicle when we saw her two

1211
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:13,760
Speaker 1: days later.

1212
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 3: Oh so, so she might be lying. She's definitely lying. Yeah,

1213
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 3: you don't get to a three car pile up crazy. Also,

1214
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 3: it's not a pile up if you were able to

1215
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 3: drive away.

1216
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,720
Speaker 1: I feel like this behavior is nothing new at this point,

1217
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: and we do have an update, got more info on

1218
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: and just no mother in law. I've posted here once

1219
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: before about my husband twenty nine male and me twenty

1220
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: six female, refusing to spend all of Christmas Day with

1221
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 1: my mother in law and forgetting about my family like

1222
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: she wanted. I want to thank everyone who commented on

1223
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: the first post, because y'all really helps me realize just

1224
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,240
Speaker 1: how toxic she truly is my mother in law. Forty

1225
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: eight female is no stranger to drama. It seems to

1226
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: follow her everywhere. We live in a small town and

1227
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: we were recently told that she's been telling people that

1228
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: she's in such bad health and that the only reason

1229
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: she's still working is because she pays all of our bills,

1230
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: which is laughable. The last time we were twenty dollars

1231
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: short on a bill, we reached out to her and

1232
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: she told us to figure it out because she was

1233
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: broke that we did. The person who told us this

1234
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: is very credible and has known mother in law for

1235
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 1: a couple of decades. And if I'm honest, my husband

1236
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: and I had just sent her roughly fifty dollars a

1237
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: month ago because she called crying about being out of

1238
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 1: gas in another town and needing to eat. She also

1239
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 1: lives with her elderly mother and pays no bills there,

1240
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: but she does have an online shopping problem. She also

1241
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: dumpster dives. She's found a lot of brand new things

1242
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,240
Speaker 1: and helped people with those things. Though I'm not hating

1243
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 1: O well, but she started bringing things with no value

1244
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: to her mother's house and piling them up outside. When

1245
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: her mom and sister told her that she needed to

1246
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: stop and get rid of it. She slowly started bringing

1247
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 1: stuff to our house and putting it on our porches.

1248
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 1: At first, I would go through just to make sure

1249
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 1: that there was nothing we could use, But it got

1250
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: to the point where I was so overwhelmed with stuff

1251
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: that my husband had to tell her to stop bringing

1252
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: things here unless we approved them first. When she was

1253
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 1: told to stop bringing it to our house, we were

1254
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: suddenly the bad guys and called ungrateful. He even called

1255
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 1: my husband and brother in law a self absorbed people

1256
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,720
Speaker 1: because we didn't want trash at our houses. She also

1257
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,280
Speaker 1: constantly tries to bring me into her fights with people

1258
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: I don't even know. He uses me as a scare tactic, saying, oh,

1259
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: pe is my daughter in law. She'll beat your butt.

1260
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: What girl?

1261
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 2: What?

1262
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 3: That's actually really funny. It's like not using like my

1263
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 3: two sons will beat your butt. It's like my daughter

1264
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 3: in law's gotta beat you up. Okay, can really pow

1265
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 3: for something? Apparently, He's like, yeah, I work out every week,

1266
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 3: but she keeps using me as a you know, yeah,

1267
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 3: as her defense. Right, Yeah, I'm not going to jail

1268
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 3: just because she wants me to fight her battles for

1269
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 3: her life with her was exhausting.

1270
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: It disrupted my peace. Another thing she's constantly done is

1271
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 1: blow up my phone if I don't answer the first time.

1272
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,320
Speaker 1: I have kids. I'm not the type to sit on

1273
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: my phone all day long. It gives me such anxiety

1274
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: every time my phone rang, because even if I did

1275
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: answer the first time, she was all always witching about something.

1276
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 4: Always.

1277
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: She was a single mom to two boys, my husband

1278
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 1: and brother in law. It's like she wants her sons

1279
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: and their wives to only focus on her and not

1280
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: see their own family. Weird. She's always taken care of

1281
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: by her mother and father. They paid for her life

1282
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 1: and for anything her children needed. They stopped and she

1283
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: was in her late thirties. Since husband and I have

1284
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: been married, and since brother in law has been grown,

1285
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: she's constantly made comments like I can't wait to not

1286
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: have to work anymore and for y'all to pay for

1287
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 1: my life since I was a single mom. It infuriates

1288
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: my husband because his grandparents monetarily took care of all

1289
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 1: of them, and if he were to help anyone, it

1290
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,760
Speaker 1: would be his grandmother. We haven't talked to her since

1291
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 1: Christmas Day. Since then, She's been telling people that she

1292
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: bought all of our children's Christmas presents, she pays all

1293
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: of our bills, and she cares for our children more

1294
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: than we do. It's all lies. Besides, I'm a stay

1295
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: at home mom. The last time she kept our children

1296
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 1: alone was when I had our youngest baby and was

1297
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 1: in the hospital one night. We win no contact and

1298
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: explained to the children that we needed a break from Nana.

1299
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 1: Children understood. Heck, my children, all under ten, seem to

1300
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 1: be more mature than her. We blocked her number. We

1301
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 1: do have a messenger account, we never use. It was

1302
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: created to talk to my stepdad, who lives states away,

1303
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: when his phone is broken. She's been sending links to

1304
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 1: videos and trying to talk to my husband as if

1305
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: she never did anything wrong. I mentioned this in my

1306
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: first post, but I'll put it here as well. The

1307
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: reason I stayed in contact with her for so long

1308
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 1: was because anytime we stopped talking to her in the past,

1309
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 1: she would cry and say that something was really wrong

1310
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 1: with her health, or claim that she relapsed or almost relapsed.

1311
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: My husband and I are both in recovery and have

1312
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 1: been clean for many years now, so I didn't want

1313
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 1: to be the reason that someone else lost their sobriety.

1314
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 1: I now know that she is in control of her

1315
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: own behavior, and I'm done. But what should we do

1316
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 1: about her lying to everyone in town? Should we just

1317
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: stay silent and let her lie, or should we somehow

1318
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: address it?

1319
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 3: Edit?

1320
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 1: I wanted to add that she had pressured me for

1321
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: months to become a cam girl or start an OnlyFans

1322
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: who I dance? That's so not insane, not the typical

1323
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 1: dynamic that you see between a mother in law. What

1324
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 1: I danced in my past, but that lifestyle is no

1325
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: longer something I'm involved in. I'm sober and turned my

1326
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: life around completely many years. I'm not doubting anyone who

1327
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 1: does that kind of work, but it's no longer for me.

1328
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 1: She knows how bad my mental health was back then

1329
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: and how I spiraled into substances during that time, So

1330
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: it makes me feel like she had malicious intentions by

1331
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 1: pushing me to do that at work. Again, the question remains,

1332
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: what should we do about her lying to everyone in town?

1333
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, you just post like start doing like

1334
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 3: the lost dog posters.

1335
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,280
Speaker 1: But just like, do not trust this woman?

1336
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 6: Right?

1337
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: She's a liar? He say this woman does not pay

1338
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,760
Speaker 1: for me at all, So if she tells you anything,

1339
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: she's lied a lie. I don't know, man, this and

1340
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: just ignore her. Go the contact. She's exhausting. Yeah, I

1341
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 1: feel like with just any lies from people, you kind

1342
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: of just have to deal with it. Yeah, because it's

1343
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 1: either like you try and defend yourself and then you

1344
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: kind of often get painted as the bad guy for

1345
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 1: trying to defend yourself or you just kind of like

1346
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, whatever. Yeah, you just have to trust

1347
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 1: that if there was anyone else in town that's being

1348
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,840
Speaker 1: lied to and they're close enough to you that you

1349
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 1: guys can talk about it.

1350
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 3: I like whenever you're alone with these people, because honestly,

1351
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 3: if you don't have a close enough relationship, like who

1352
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 3: cares what they think exactly?

1353
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: And there is another update update number two. Well, I'm

1354
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,760
Speaker 1: back to update you all on my crazy toxic, dumpster diving,

1355
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: trash dumping self absorbed person I call mother in law.

1356
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,919
Speaker 1: I last updated about a week ago, but of course

1357
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: more has happened context. We went no contact to my

1358
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: mother in law after all of this crazy stuff. In

1359
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 1: the previous updates, we blocked her number and hadn't spoken

1360
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 1: since until yesterday. Yesterday, while my husband was asleep, I

1361
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: heard his phone going off. It was the Facebook messenger

1362
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: ring tone. We don't use Facebook. We created this messenger

1363
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: account to talk to my stepdad until his phone was fixed,

1364
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 1: and of course it was mother. I rejected the call.

1365
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,280
Speaker 1: She started texting, trying to tell on me to my husband,

1366
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 1: as if he doesn't know what's going on. She said,

1367
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: I was calling to talk to the kids. OHPI has

1368
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: blocked me. She really did, and I can prove it.

1369
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: She's been awful to me. She has disrespected me. You

1370
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: can't keep the kids from me. I chuggled and went

1371
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: about my night. When husband woke up, he replied, I

1372
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: know you're blocked. I'm the one that did that. You

1373
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: were never disrespected, but you completely disrespected my wife when

1374
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: she was only trying to include everyone. And yes, I

1375
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 1: can keep our children from you for conduct. Our car

1376
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: recently broke down. It's twenty years old and we've been

1377
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: looking for a new one. My father found a car

1378
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: for us, bought it and surprised us with it. My stepmother,

1379
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 1: husband and mother in law all work at the same company.

1380
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: Husband is in a completely different department, but stepmother and

1381
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: mother in law work in the same department. Mother in

1382
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: law overheard a conversation between stepmother and a coworker about

1383
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: the car and how she and my father couldn't wait

1384
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 1: to gift us the car. Mother in law mentioned to

1385
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: stepmother that she wanted to put one hundred dollars towards

1386
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 1: it and surprise us too. Stepmother knows all about mother

1387
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: in law and told her no because she would hold

1388
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 1: it over our heads. She responded, I have been disfected

1389
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: the humanity. This is very insightful, son. Guess I won't

1390
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: be buying you the car I found for you also

1391
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: be bringing the kids Christmas presents to your house when

1392
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 1: the snow is gone. I don't care if you like

1393
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 1: it or not. By this time, we already had the car.

1394
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: Step Mother knew mother in law would ruin the surprise

1395
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: unless they got it to us asap. Husband responded, you

1396
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: mean the car father in law and stepmother in law

1397
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 1: gifted us. It's in the driveway. That's exactly why they

1398
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: told you that you could be involved. Hold everything over

1399
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: my head, and if I want you at my home,

1400
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 1: you'll be invited or not invited. Do not show up

1401
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: to my home. We don't want to see you. I'm done, mom.

1402
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: Yes that is peir and strong.

1403
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 4: Wow.

1404
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't want to see you.

1405
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 3: Don't want to see you around here, man, There is

1406
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 3: no simpler way to say that. No two ways around

1407
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 3: that manyeah, no sugarcoat in it, just like I don't

1408
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 3: like you.

1409
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. She responded four more times, but neither of us

1410
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: bothered to read or reply. So lovely friends of just

1411
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: no mother in law? If she shows up? Do I

1412
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 1: call the police? Is that considered trespassing? She does have

1413
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 1: a key to my home. Husband forgot his house key

1414
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 1: in her car when he took it to get the

1415
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 1: oil changed about two months ago, and she never gave

1416
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: it back. We will be having the lucks changed, but

1417
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: nobody will come out here to do it until the

1418
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: snow is caught. We live in the South and just

1419
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 1: got a crab ton of snow. I'm so tired of

1420
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 1: the bs surrounding this woman. Child also telling people that

1421
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 1: our son cries for her, He in fact does not.

1422
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 1: He knows that we're taking a break from Nana and why,

1423
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: as do my other children. A few days ago, when

1424
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 1: I told him stepmother was coming over, he thought I

1425
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 1: meant mother in law. They call her a variation of

1426
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 1: Nana too. He got upset and so that he doesn't

1427
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 1: want to see her because she was awful to me

1428
00:59:56,320 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: and made me cry. Oh, oh my gosh, is so sweet.

1429
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 1: Mother in law also told people in her department at

1430
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: work that we have demanded she buy us a car

1431
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: and give us money. Thankfully most of those people, no

1432
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,959
Speaker 1: husband and stepmother was able to put that rumor into rest.

1433
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 1: She's been spreading crazy rumors all over our little town

1434
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 1: and there is another updates. Oh my goodness, just no

1435
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 1: mother in law decided to show up. Well, I'm back

1436
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 1: to update you all in my crazy, toxic, dumpster diving,

1437
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 1: trash dumming, self absorbed person I call mother in law again. Hello,

1438
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: my lovely friends of reddits. Sorry I've not updated it

1439
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 1: in a while. My last post was locked and I

1440
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 1: wasn't able to update you all there. I'm still figuring

1441
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 1: out how Reddit works. But onto the mother in law drama.

1442
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 1: On Tuesday last week, husband was brought into the office

1443
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 1: at his job. The head manager explained that they've been

1444
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 1: getting complaints that mother in law has been pestering other coworkers.

1445
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 1: She harassed an eighteen year old in her department, and

1446
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 1: the girl recorded it, along with another incident of mother

1447
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: in law talking badly about us. Mother in law has

1448
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 1: also been bashing husband and me, so management wanted to

1449
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 1: know what was going on, since husband isn't one to

1450
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 1: engage in drama or bring his personal life to work.

1451
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: Husband briefly explained what was happening. He was told that

1452
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 1: workers only get a few chances and mother in law

1453
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 1: may be terminated. One of the concerns brought to their

1454
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 1: attention was mother in law saying that she was going

1455
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 1: to come to our home when she knew that husband

1456
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 1: was asleep and knock my butt out as soon as

1457
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 1: I opened the door. Oh wow, he's starting violence now.

1458
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 1: So concerning call the police, Yes, absolutely, but since husband

1459
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 1: hadn't started this or brought it to work, he was fine.

1460
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 1: He told them to do what they needed to do

1461
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 1: and thanked them for letting him know what she had

1462
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 1: been saying. Fast forward to Friday, at three pm. I

1463
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 1: was getting our youngest baby girl out of the bath

1464
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 1: when I heard noise outside of my porch. At first

1465
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 1: I thought it could be a package being delivered, but

1466
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,479
Speaker 1: the noise persistent. Our baby is under a year old,

1467
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 1: so I couldn't just leave her unattended. I put her

1468
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 1: in her crib and then I heard a knock at

1469
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 1: the door. It was mother in law. Our oldest son

1470
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 1: saw it was her, hid under a blanket and said, Mommy,

1471
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 1: tell her to leave. I asked him to go to

1472
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 1: my bedroom, where a husband was sleeping. He works nice,

1473
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 1: and I took a deep breath opened the door, giving

1474
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 1: her plenty of time to try and hit me if

1475
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 1: she desired. She in fact didn't hit me or even

1476
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 1: try mother in law. I brought the kids Christmas presents.

1477
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 1: Husband had some deliveries sent to mom's house so the

1478
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 1: kids wouldn't see them. Me. Okay, Mother in law scotted, well,

1479
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 1: aren't you going to let them come outside and get

1480
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 1: them and then let them see me me. No, I'm

1481
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 1: going to get my husband. Maybe he will want to

1482
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 1: deal with you. I'm not going to. She rolled her eyes.

1483
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 1: I shut and locked the door behind me. I woke

1484
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 1: my husband up and told him the situation. He was,

1485
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 1: of course pissed off. It was a nice day, so

1486
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 1: we had the windows open. I'm sure she heard him,

1487
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 1: because the next thing I heard was her slinging gravel

1488
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 1: with her tires and speeding out of there. She then

1489
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 1: sent brother in law a long rant about how we

1490
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 1: won't let her see the kids. She also claimed that

1491
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 1: she's certain I'm pregnant, but that we just don't want

1492
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 1: her to know, and that's why we haven't started talking

1493
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 1: to her, as if the status of my womb is

1494
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 1: any of her business. I'm not pregnant. Brother in law

1495
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 1: decided to go no contact with her. She's still talking

1496
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 1: crap about him and his wife behind their backs, and

1497
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: her talking about me was his last straw. Of course,

1498
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 1: him deciding to go to North Carolina is also my fault,

1499
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 1: as if I control him and his decision making. Also,

1500
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 1: we got our locks changed after my last post. As

1501
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 1: soon as the roads were clear enough to get to town.

1502
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 1: Husband went to our local hardware store and got everything

1503
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 1: we needed to change each store. Last night, when husband

1504
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 1: was at work, his manager came to him and told

1505
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 1: him that mother in law had given him money to

1506
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 1: give to the husband. The manager handed the husband twenty dollars,

1507
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 1: so he took that money and bought his friend and

1508
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 1: coworker a few groceries. Since he's been struggling, Lady mother

1509
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 1: in law keeps finding new ways to text husband, it's weird.

1510
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 1: She just sends him links to random tiktoks, calls herself

1511
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 1: a talker, and tells everyone she goes to TikTok University. Okay,

1512
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 1: from what we hear, she claims she won't give up

1513
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 1: her stance since she's in the right, she will see

1514
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 1: our kids. She knows the husband needs her, and I'm

1515
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 1: keeping husband away and controlling him, so I'm keeping my

1516
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 1: eyes on her from a distance. Brother in law and

1517
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 1: husband believe that she has relapsed on substances based on

1518
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 1: some of the things that she said to brother in

1519
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Speaker 1: law before he went to North Caroline that which is crazy,

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Speaker 1: sober and insane on substances. There's also a couple more things,

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Speaker 1: but I have to ask if husband wants me to

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Speaker 1: talk about it since he doesn't really involve edits ad

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Speaker 1: A husband doesn't mind if I tell you all the

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Speaker 1: other So husband's had a doctor's appointment. An hour before

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Speaker 1: his appointment, the office called us informing us that his

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Speaker 1: insurance had suddenly lapsed and that we needed to give

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Speaker 1: them a call. By the way, which you guys do

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Speaker 1: is check out more episodes with full stories just like

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Speaker 1: this one. Just go to iHeartRadio, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, whatever

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Speaker 1: Doctor's orders, you gotta do. Keep the doctor away. We

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Speaker 1: called the insurance company. Without getting into specifics. Mother in

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Speaker 1: law is the reason that insurance lapsed and we had

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Speaker 1: to pay nearly seven hundred dollars for my husband to

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Speaker 1: see his doctor and get the medication that he has

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01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 1: to have every day. I feel like that twenty dollars

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01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 1: was her way of trying to get in our good

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01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 1: graces after we had to pay this seven dollars. My

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01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 1: husband texted her that day letting her know just how

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01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 1: effed up this was. But twenty dollars doesn't even compare

1541
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 1: to seven hundred dollars, mother in law. That's what we're saying.

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01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 1: That's nothing. That's nothing compared to that am nothing. Oh

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Speaker 1: my goodness. But that is the end of that story.

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Speaker 1: Today we're gonna jump into the next one.

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Speaker 4: Hey, it's John here og host of the show.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get back to these juicy stories.

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Speaker 3: My mother in law went back on her word, so

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01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 3: we're keeping her out of our wedding class like mother

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01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:45,479
Speaker 3: in law's always going back on their word.

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Speaker 1: I bet you she's gonna show up to the wedding

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01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 1: in white.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to share the story because when I told

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01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 3: it in full to some friends, they got a big

1555
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 3: laugh and a cautionary tale. And we have made a

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01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 3: tentative decision that some are seeing as too tough for

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01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 3: our reasoning. By the way, this comes from Brady and

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Speaker 3: storytime separate it. I want some objective opinions to try

1561
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 3: to support my future husband in making a choice. When

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01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 3: I started dating my fiance, he warned me his mom

1563
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 3: was crazy is words not mine, But early on she

1564
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 3: seemed pretty normal, if a bit immature. At time when

1565
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 3: we decided to move in together, she offered to rent

1566
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 3: us her house while she moved in with her kind

1567
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 3: of long term boyfriend. We thought it might work out

1568
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 3: better than finding an apartment. I was a little hesitant,

1569
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 3: so we all sat down to discuss our concerns making

1570
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 3: the space, our own rules for Poppins, covering utilities and maintenance,

1571
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 3: and what would happen if she sold the house. We

1572
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 3: put together a simple contract, signed it, and moved in.

1573
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 3: At first things were fine, but after a few months

1574
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 3: she started dropping by unannounced and randomly storing things in

1575
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 3: the housing garage. We could deal with it since it

1576
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 3: was her house. Then utility bills started arriving with final

1577
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 3: notice warnings, even though we'd agreed she'd handle them. We

1578
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 3: ended up paying hundreds to get them up to date.

1579
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 3: To keep the peace, we slowly started talking about getting

1580
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 3: out of her house and finding a different rental not

1581
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 3: owned by family. Then, out of nowhere, she told us

1582
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 3: she'd be listening the house in two weeks. We were

1583
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 3: shocked because part of our agreement was that the place

1584
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 3: was effectively ours for at least a year. My fiance

1585
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 3: told her she wasn't keeping her word, but she shrugged,

1586
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 3: saying that paper we signed doesn't mean anything.

1587
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 1: I got rid of it anyways.

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01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 3: The paper we signed doesn't mean anything. What Usually when

1589
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 3: you sign a piece of paper, it means an old deal,

1590
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 3: It means a big lot. As they argued, I started

1591
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 3: searching for rentals. We both agreed it was time to

1592
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 3: move out and hopefully salvage some relationship with her. You

1593
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 3: kept coming over and told us to make everything back

1594
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 3: to how it was when she lived there, even though

1595
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 3: a lot of our changes were improvements that could help

1596
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 3: her sell. A realtor came by, took some photos just

1597
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 3: on her phone, and a couple of days later we

1598
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 3: got approved for a new place and began packing out

1599
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 3: of nowhere. She texted my fiance saying you can stay,

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01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 3: but rent's going out one hundred dollars. When he called,

1601
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 3: she admitted her realtor suggesting renting instead of selling for

1602
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 3: various reasons, but it would take money to get it

1603
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 3: up to par, to list it for rent to anyone

1604
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 3: but us, and have other expenses as well. My fiance refused,

1605
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 3: which made her furious. You blamed it all on me,

1606
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 3: calling me a witch, controlling, brainwashing, and telling him to

1607
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 3: leave me while he's still the chance. He snapped and

1608
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 3: defended me, saying she was just jealous that I'm already

1609
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 3: everything she wants to be. At twenty four, we moved

1610
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 3: up our movent date to be out in three days.

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01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 3: Over the last days, we've got every trace of us

1612
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 3: out of there, including all the renter friendly changes and

1613
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 3: upgrades like better bathroom hardware. Yes, I even uninstalled faucets

1614
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 3: out of pettiness, good though we didn't need them at

1615
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 3: the new place.

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01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 1: Aside from a little paint that.

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01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 3: We had approved with her before doing, it looked exactly

1618
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 3: like it did when she lived there. The realtor returned

1619
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:47,639
Speaker 3: with the photographer and told her the house would likely

1620
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 3: sit on the market longer and get lower offers because

1621
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:52,679
Speaker 3: it didn't look as good as it had with our updates.

1622
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:56,719
Speaker 3: Caulled again, yelling that we sabotaged her, demanding we redo

1623
01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 3: everything we'd undone at her request and claiming we owed

1624
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:03,719
Speaker 3: her the rest of the year's utilities in rent. Since

1625
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 3: she discarded the contract, we technically didn't know her anything,

1626
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:09,919
Speaker 3: so my fiance said no and hung up. You eventually

1627
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 3: sold the house for less than asking, using a mix

1628
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,440
Speaker 3: of photos with our upgrades in them and the professional

1629
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 3: listing photos. We barely spoke to her since, and he

1630
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:20,680
Speaker 3: has brought up the idea of not involving her in

1631
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:22,640
Speaker 3: traditional mother of the groom roles.

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01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 4: In our wedding.

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01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 3: I think that's probably smart. We're not getting married in

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01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:27,560
Speaker 3: a church and have some other things that are non traditional,

1635
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 3: but I'm close with my dad and keeping those traditions

1636
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 3: like a father daughter dance. He was going to have

1637
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 3: a dance with his mom and to have her walk

1638
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 3: down the aisle with him when he entered. Now he's

1639
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 3: thinking about having his dad and brother best man walk

1640
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 3: down with him instead. My mom and dad will be

1641
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:44,719
Speaker 3: walking with me instead of a dance with his mom.

1642
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 3: He's thinking of doing one with my mom or doing

1643
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 3: something unique with his dad and or brother. We're still planning.

1644
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:52,879
Speaker 3: His parents have been divorced for almost his whole life,

1645
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 3: so his dad has chosen to not share an opinion

1646
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 3: on this and just go with whatever we decide. The

1647
01:09:57,479 --> 01:09:59,799
Speaker 3: way I see it, it's his mom and his decision.

1648
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 3: I'm okay with either choice he makes, and will put

1649
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 3: aside all of our differences for the sake of our

1650
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 3: day and the memories he could have with her if

1651
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:09,959
Speaker 3: he decides that he wants those. But if he decides

1652
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 3: that she should be a guest instead, no skin off

1653
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 3: my nose, Honestly, either way, My mom and maid of

1654
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 3: honor know the entire situation and plan on running mother

1655
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:20,600
Speaker 3: in law interference on the day to make sure that

1656
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 3: both me and my fiance don't have to stress out

1657
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 3: about her behavior. If at some point in the night

1658
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 3: she's gone. It likely means she's acted up to the

1659
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 3: point they punted her out, and so be it. We

1660
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 3: trust their judgment and the days about our future. My

1661
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 3: family is looking at this, like his dad is. She's

1662
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 3: a grown but woman, and whatever my fiance decides are

1663
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:41,679
Speaker 3: the consequences of her action, they will support. A couple

1664
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 3: of his family members and some of our friends say

1665
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:46,639
Speaker 3: we would be way too arched to not involve her,

1666
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 3: and it will just be the nail in the coffin

1667
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 3: on the relationship with her, when right now it is salvagible.

1668
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 1: I mean, but it is salvageable.

1669
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 3: I feel like I feel like some elements of are salvagible,

1670
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 3: but it seems like she's I don't know, she's just

1671
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 3: making a whole issue about everything.

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01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:01,639
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 1: It's like the kind of thing where it's like, even

1674
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 1: if you did put in work to try to fix it,

1675
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 1: there's just going to be more problems that pupa. I

1676
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 1: feel like, I feel like inviting her to the wedding

1677
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 1: would be nice.

1678
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 3: But doesn't have to be involved in Yeah, especially if

1679
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 3: she's just not comfortable with that. My fiance is struggling

1680
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:17,719
Speaker 3: because at the end of the day, she is his mom,

1681
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 3: but not only did she go after me fiercely. It's

1682
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:22,639
Speaker 3: not the first time they've had it out. I didn't

1683
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 3: provide all of the background, but just a small glimpse.

1684
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 3: He was paying a lot of her bills when he

1685
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 3: was roughly sixteen to twenty. Wow, not because she couldn't

1686
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 3: work or anything, but because she was going out and

1687
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 3: partying or regularly and would get let go for not

1688
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:37,760
Speaker 3: showing up or just calling him sick all the time

1689
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 3: and losing a big chunk of pay thanks to partying.

1690
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 3: She's gotten better now, but they still have some issues.

1691
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 3: So would we be the ales if we didn't include

1692
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 3: her in a traditional way? And there is an update?

1693
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:49,640
Speaker 1: But what do you think? I think No? I think no,

1694
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 1: she's making a big deal out of this stuff and

1695
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 1: just like causing too any problems. Is she's still gonna

1696
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 1: be involved. She's still gonna be at the wedding. Yeah,

1697
01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 1: that is not going to be a Yeah.

1698
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:02,759
Speaker 3: Update in about my mother in law drama after renting

1699
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:05,679
Speaker 3: from her and how my fiance was considering not involving

1700
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 3: her in traditional mother of the groom roles in our

1701
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 3: upcoming wedding, Well, things escalated quickly my fiance decided to

1702
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 3: invite his mother over for dinner at our new place,

1703
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 3: to be honest with her about his reservations and set

1704
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:20,640
Speaker 3: clear ground rules on what their relationship would look like

1705
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:22,559
Speaker 3: if she wanted to be involved in the wedding and

1706
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 3: our future, which actually I think that's honestly a great

1707
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 3: way to go about it. It's like, yeah, it's like, hey,

1708
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 3: we were thinking about not having you in this wedding

1709
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:30,679
Speaker 3: because of how.

1710
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 1: You've treated us.

1711
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have an opportunity, dude, you know, maybe changed

1712
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 3: your minds.

1713
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:37,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, just being very honest, like, hey, this is actually

1714
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 1: your fault, so if you want to fix it, then

1715
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 1: fix it.

1716
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:42,839
Speaker 3: He and I prepped dinner together, and when she arrived,

1717
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 3: we chatted briefly. We had agreed that I would let

1718
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 3: them start the conversation alone, so while the dish was

1719
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 3: finishing in the oven, I left them and went into

1720
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 3: my office. It only took a few minutes before I

1721
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:54,680
Speaker 3: heard voices getting raised, but I kept myself out of

1722
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:57,640
Speaker 3: it until everything went quiet. About five minutes later, my

1723
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 3: fiance very calmly came up to me. I could tell

1724
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 3: he was fuming inside, but he just said, she's not

1725
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:05,080
Speaker 3: coming and I'm not changing my mind.

1726
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean they had the conversation, he gave

1727
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 1: her the chance. Yeah, he was.

1728
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 3: Gone, and he and I ate dinner while watching her

1729
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 3: comfort show. Not much was said about it until we

1730
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 3: were getting ready for bed. He told me, I wasn't sure.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to tell you how everything went down, but

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01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 3: I think I want you to know if you're okay

1733
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 3: with hearing it, because it's not very nice. I didn't

1734
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 3: want him to bottle it up, and I have pretty

1735
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 3: thick skin, so I agree. As we got into bed,

1736
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 3: he gave me a recap of the conversation to sum

1737
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 3: it up and save a blow by blow. She had

1738
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 3: always hoped he would end things with me before we

1739
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 3: got engaged. When that didn't happen, she held a hope

1740
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 3: that he would leave me at the altar. She thinks

1741
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 3: I'm a skunk with an A and the disappearing act

1742
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 3: were high school sweethearts, and I make more than him,

1743
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 3: and that he should be with someone more like her,

1744
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 3: as in mother in law, as in his mother.

1745
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 1: Oh no, oh no. When he told her she.

1746
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 3: Couldn't speak about me that way and that he didn't

1747
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 3: want her in the wedding or now, even at the wedding,

1748
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 3: he said he would have regretted the marriage a little

1749
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:00,760
Speaker 3: less if she were there, it would still be the

1750
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:03,839
Speaker 3: biggest regret of his life. He responded that his biggest

1751
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:06,800
Speaker 3: regret was sacrificing so much of his own life to

1752
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 3: support his grown mother, declaim that was his responsibility because

1753
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 3: she could have terminated him.

1754
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 1: Wow, his mother. Wow, Yeah, you've had the conversation.

1755
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:15,559
Speaker 4: You've tried.

1756
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know what you guys could try and

1757
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 3: do listen to fall episodes of stories just like this.

1758
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 3: Just go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts or iHeartRadio and.

1759
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 1: Search a book the story time. But keep it lest

1760
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:28,800
Speaker 1: do that. Let's do that. Oh man, I'm glad that

1761
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 1: he like made the decision put his foot down. You know,

1762
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 1: she pushed him too far and it's just like, no,

1763
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 1: you don't need to be there, You don't need to

1764
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:37,639
Speaker 1: be there at all.

1765
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like when you've had like I think

1766
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 3: it's always important to have those conversations and have, you know,

1767
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 3: talk it out before you go no contact if you can.

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01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:47,680
Speaker 1: And you did. You have the conversation, you laid down

1769
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:50,799
Speaker 1: the ground rolls and exactly you didn't want to follow them. Exactly.

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01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 3: He then headed towards my office, saying she would beat

1771
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 3: some sense into my butt if he wouldn't, and that

1772
01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:58,880
Speaker 3: was his final straw. He told her to leave and

1773
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:01,680
Speaker 3: not contact either of us again. So we will be

1774
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:04,799
Speaker 3: having a very non traditional ceremony, and he's even considering

1775
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:07,439
Speaker 3: some incognito security to make sure she doesn't try to

1776
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 3: show up. He's content with his decision and is seeing

1777
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:12,400
Speaker 3: a therapist to help with some of these complex feelings.

1778
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 1: And that is the end of that story. But that

1779
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:15,479
Speaker 1: is I think that is.

1780
01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 4: The way to go.

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01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, good for him, gone therapy, taking

1782
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 1: care of him, therapy nice.

1783
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 3: But that is the end of that story and the

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Speaker 3: end of this episode. So if you love us, make

1785
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:28,600
Speaker 3: sure to subscribe.

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Speaker 1: We love you, and seein tomorrow.