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Speaker 1: you an updated look at what's new with the horse shoes.

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Speaker 1: and welcome to the Coats Official Podcast. My name is

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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Gorman. Reminder, the Colts Official Podcast presented by Wynn Betton,

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Speaker 1: Miss Lara Overton joins me in studio and Hello. When

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Speaker 1: we were talking back in Graham Park back in the

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Speaker 1: in those salads hot summer days at Graham Park, we

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Speaker 1: did not see oh say salads, yeah, just I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're so sweating, cares like a wet salad, you know, small,

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Speaker 1: sweat salad terminology. It was unfamiliar with it. So I'm

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Speaker 1: already getting schooled here on burbage. But yes, please proceed,

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Speaker 1: because that feels like a year ago at this point,

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Speaker 1: so you're gonna have to remind me it does. We

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Speaker 1: and three after the Colts dropped that division game. A

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Speaker 1: tough one too, because it basically is throwing us a

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Speaker 1: this NFL season. But elo, we're kind of in a

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Speaker 1: But oh and three not the best place to go. Well,

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Speaker 1: certainly it isn't. But you also know that this is

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Speaker 1: not happening with the same consistency. So that's the problem.

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Speaker 1: Then the other thing is you talked about the turnovers

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Speaker 1: they produced, which is absolutely wonderful. All right, so you've

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Speaker 1: got I'm looking at the drive chart, you've got these

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Speaker 1: three turnovers. Here's the other problem. Though they only forced

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Speaker 1: one punt so when they didn't get the turnover, Tennessee

436
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 1: was scoring just about every other possession. So, look, turnovers

437
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Speaker 1: are hard and you can't count on getting three turnovers

438
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Speaker 1: a game. You gotta get those guys off the field,

439
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Speaker 1: and you got to force some punts. You know, they

440
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 1: had a fourteen play drive and eleven play drive and

441
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Speaker 1: so too much of allowing the offense to move methodically

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Speaker 1: down the field. Somebody has to make a play, and

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Speaker 1: the turnovers are plays like that, certainly, but again it

444
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Speaker 1: has to be sometimes it's a more routine stuff. Sometimes

445
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Speaker 1: it's making the tackle. Sometimes it's just being in the

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00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 1: right place and being able to make a tough pas

447
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Speaker 1: tougher than it was right so that they can get

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Speaker 1: off the field on third down. So it's it's a

449
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Speaker 1: lot of the little things. And you mentioned the pass

450
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Speaker 1: us as well. That's the last piece of this. They

451
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Speaker 1: have to get to the passer. I thought there were

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Speaker 1: some instances in the last really all games and all

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Speaker 1: three games really where the quarterback just had the luxury

454
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Speaker 1: of just sitting there and patting the ball and just

455
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 1: having all day. That is a recipe for disaster. Well,

456
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Speaker 1: we have to get off the snide at oh and

457
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Speaker 1: three and it starts hopefully this Sunday in Miami. So

458
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Speaker 1: with that to attack of Yoloa out with injury on

459
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Speaker 1: the ribs, in steps a possible Disney screenplay where Jacoby

460
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Speaker 1: Brissette comes in and tries to beat his old team.

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Speaker 1: My question to you is who has the advantage Jacoby

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Speaker 1: Brissette against the Colts defense or the Colts defense versus

463
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Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissette because of their history. So I actually like

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Speaker 1: this matchup for the Colts, and I'll tell you why.

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Speaker 1: It's because and when I look at Jacoby's numbers from

466
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Speaker 1: this past game, and also just knowing his tendency, Jacoby's

467
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Speaker 1: not gonna test you deep, right, He's gonna keep the

468
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Speaker 1: ball short, get it out of his hand, and get

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Speaker 1: it to the running back or the tight end, or

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Speaker 1: the short route, the receiver running the shorter route or

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Speaker 1: the quicker route. So he threw the He had twenty

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Speaker 1: five completions this past Sunday. He was under five yards

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Speaker 1: per attempt. That's very very low. So how do the

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Speaker 1: Colts play defense? They tend to stay back and keep

475
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Speaker 1: everything in front of him, not let you throw the

476
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Speaker 1: deep ball over their heads. Right, So if they can

477
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Speaker 1: get back to tackling and getting guys on the ground,

478
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Speaker 1: they're gonna is going to play into their hands. I

479
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Speaker 1: really think this plays into the Colt's hands given the

480
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Speaker 1: style of defense they play, so it's all set up

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Speaker 1: for him. And also, hey, you're having trouble rushing the

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Speaker 1: pastor congratulations, You're going against an offensive line that's had

483
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Speaker 1: more struggles than just about anybody in the NFL this year.

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Speaker 1: So this is a perfect scenario for this defense to

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Speaker 1: get going, and I think that is what is going

486
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Speaker 1: to enable them to win this game. Now, the Dolphins

487
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Speaker 1: have some playmakers on defense and they're going to have

488
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Speaker 1: to deal with that the Colts on offense. But I

489
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Speaker 1: think the defense is their biggest advantage here and I

490
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Speaker 1: think they have to truly exploit that. One of the

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Speaker 1: things that you know though about Jacoby Brissette is even

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Speaker 1: if you can get to him, he is so tough

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Speaker 1: to bring down. I mean, I remember doing some interviews

494
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Speaker 1: in some prep and there was one of the guys

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Speaker 1: on the Houston Texans defense that described Jacoby Brissette as

496
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Speaker 1: like a bucking bull that like he'll just throw people

497
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Speaker 1: off of him as you're trying to bring him down.

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Speaker 1: But of course, see Indianapolis Colts defense knows that certainly

499
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Speaker 1: better than anyone. When you do think about your preparation

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Speaker 1: for this game. One of the things though, before we

501
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Speaker 1: let you go, Stephen, and we could probably do a

502
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Speaker 1: whole podcast on this topic itself, but being that it

503
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 1: was a game time all the way up as late

504
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Speaker 1: as it possibly could be. From what we heard from

505
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Speaker 1: Frank Craik in terms of deeming Carson Wentz healthy enough

506
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Speaker 1: to start and play, you know, somewhat effectively, what is

507
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Speaker 1: the game plan this week going into Miami Because you're

508
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: banking on hopefully Carson continues to make steps forward. But man,

509
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Speaker 1: that last hit or one of the last hits that

510
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Speaker 1: he took in that fourth quarter, you could see how

511
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Speaker 1: aggravated it was when he got brought down, when he

512
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Speaker 1: got sacked by Tennessee, by the Tennessee defense, so he

513
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Speaker 1: kind of of course, I would expect that he irritated

514
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Speaker 1: that to some degree. You're going to try to maintain

515
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Speaker 1: some of the progress on that ankle and continue to improve.

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Speaker 1: But what's the plan right now behind Carson Wentz? Because

517
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Speaker 1: you've got to have somebody who is able to step

518
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Speaker 1: in given the fact that he is not playing. We

519
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: know he's not playing yet at one hundred percent, it

520
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: would be impossible to expect him to do that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think they have to have a more focused plan

522
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Speaker 1: I thought last week. I mean they I think they

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Speaker 1: had a plan at the because earlier in the week

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Speaker 1: they just didn't tell us, right, was a little coy

525
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,959
Speaker 1: about it, right as you would understand. But certainly it

526
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Speaker 1: was going to be Brett Hunley had Carson been unable

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Speaker 1: to start, that was the plan. Now what's interesting is

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Speaker 1: I guess we'll see. It's Tuesday as we're recording this,

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Speaker 1: I guess we'll see what happens with Sam Ellinger. He's

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a variable here. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: he's going to step in and you know, you know,

532
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: coming on a white horse and save anybody. But I

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Speaker 1: do think they may get him involved here. He can

534
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Speaker 1: start practicing, and if he's healthy, we'll see. But if

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Speaker 1: he's healthy, he can start practicing. If he looks good,

536
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Speaker 1: you can start to sort of factor him into the

537
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Speaker 1: picture as the coaching staff and determine whether he is

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Speaker 1: someone they want to maybe integrate as a backup. Because

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Speaker 1: I'm here to tell you. I really think had he

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Speaker 1: not gotten hurt, he might have been the number two

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Speaker 1: quarterback here in recent weeks. It's very possible. That is

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Speaker 1: not something that we can dismiss as a true possibility.

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00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: I know it's hypothetical, but that was certainly something that

544
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: was considered. So so we'll have to see. It will

545
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 1: first be determined on Ellinger's health and then secondly how

546
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Speaker 1: he performs now that he's coming back from that knee injury.

547
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Speaker 1: But he's going to be a factor. The other thing is, look,

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Speaker 1: I think that the good news is Carson Wentz is,

549
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Speaker 1: as Frank Wright explained, a little further ahead than he

550
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: was a week ago at this time, so that's positive,

551
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: and that gives him the potential to have a little

552
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Speaker 1: more practice time. So we'll see how it goes. The

553
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: next couple of days going to be really key for

554
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz and that training staff working on that ankle

555
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Speaker 1: as I'm sure they're doing right now. Go ahead, Stephen Bolder,

556
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: put us to bed or give us hope. Owen three

557
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: very rarely as an Owen three team made the playoffs,

558
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: but we're adding that seventeenth game this week. What's it

559
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: gonna take and what's your crystal ball outlook? Did they

560
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: have an opportunity still after losing the first division game

561
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Speaker 1: down in Tennessee to make a playoff run. Well, I

562
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: think it starts this week, certainly, and I actually like

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Speaker 1: the Colts in this game. I'm gonna take the Colts

564
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Speaker 1: in this game. I think it starts here, and it

565
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: really is going to depend on health. Can they get

566
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: everybody back to one hundred percent. But it's really hard

567
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: to do in the midst of a season. It's really

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Speaker 1: hard to do. And you know, I worry about Quintin

569
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: Nelson and that injury, and he's already playing hurt. You know,

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00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: it's gonna it's getting harder, is what I'm saying. So

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00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: you gotta get a win. They've gotta They're gonna have

572
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Speaker 1: to put some wins together. That's the thing. Now, this

573
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: is going to be saved of two and eighteen. You know,

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Speaker 1: the one in five start. I know, we hang on

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Speaker 1: to that as hope. As a fan, you latch onto

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Speaker 1: that one in five. We made the playoffs to one

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Speaker 1: in ten games, nine out of ten. Except here's the point,

578
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Speaker 1: or here's some heart that no one talks about. That

579
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: was so hard Okay, that was so so hard. So

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Speaker 1: it's they caught lightning in a bottle. That's what it's

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00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: gonna take. That is what it's gonna take. There is hope,

582
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: but it's it's a tough tough thing to do in

583
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Speaker 1: this league, especially when you're this hurt, and so it's

584
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: gonna take some fortune, some good fortune, and it's going

585
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: to take just an unbelievable run and stacking wins together,

586
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Speaker 1: one on top of the other. That's what they gotta

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Speaker 1: do right now, all right, I get down to Miami

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Speaker 1: on Saturday morning. Radio crews traveling down since you know

589
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Speaker 1: the territory, where should we head for dinner on Saturday

590
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Speaker 1: night to get a good meal before we're working our

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Speaker 1: tushes off on Sunday. So are you guys staying and

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Speaker 1: I think you're probably staying in the Fort Lauderdale area.

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Speaker 1: Then well, so radio crew is traveling commercially, so we're

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Speaker 1: actually staying relatively near the airport, so we're not kind

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Speaker 1: of I don't think we're too far from a lot

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Speaker 1: of decent options from my understanding of looking at the

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00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: old Google maps. So if you're near the Miami airport, yes,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you where I'll tell you where it's. It's

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00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: kind of so everybody thinks South Beach, right and there's

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Speaker 1: nothing everybody, that's what I thought, But but there's actually

601
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Speaker 1: so downtown and the Brickle District is in Miami is

602
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Speaker 1: kind of like the hot spot nowadays. So I don't

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Speaker 1: even know all the new spots because it's changed so much.

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Speaker 1: But I just know. I'm just telling you that the

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00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: US that's kind of the business district, but now it's

606
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Speaker 1: like condo central. So get all the rich folks down there,

607
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: so right, so the good spots are where they live, right,

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Speaker 1: So so go check out the Brickle District. It's it's

609
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: not far from the airport. Probably a ten fifteen dollars

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Speaker 1: uber ride boom. You're there. I love check it out.

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00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: And if you if you're looking at in that area

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Speaker 1: and find you know, what's the hot new restaurant, I

613
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: get yarantee you won't go wrong. I prefer the Latin,

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Speaker 1: the Latin foods. Yeah, being of Caribbean descent, that's my alley,

615
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: so you know, but that's just me. Hey, that's just

616
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: you and a lot of people. Give me some Cuban

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Speaker 1: food while I'm down there and I'm happy, Stephen Holder.

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Speaker 1: Follow that's it at at Holder Stephen on Twitter. You

619
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Speaker 1: can also follow him and read his great work on

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Speaker 1: the Athletic Man. Appreciate the time. We'll see you down

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Speaker 1: in Miami and let's get off this snide and you

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00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: know you start writing some more positive articles because this

623
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Speaker 1: team's winning. All right, let's do it. Let's do it.

624
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what people think. The media wants the

625
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: team to lose. Now a lot easier covering to winning team. Yeah,

626
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: for sure. It makes your job easier. Don't forget that.

627
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: For fans. It makes there these guys job a lot

628
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: easier when the team's winning. Steven, I appreciate the help.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you down there and we'll talk to you

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Speaker 1: before the end of the season again. All right, see

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Speaker 1: you guys, all right, thank you, Stephen Holder again at

632
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: Holder Stephen on Twitter, follow him and also on the Athletic.

633
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Speaker 1: Now it's time to bring in some sort of a legend.

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Speaker 1: You know, we haven't had this guy in a long time,

635
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: the one Indiana legend. I know that definitely from Muncy.

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Speaker 1: He is the Colts dot Com junior writer. He's been

637
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Speaker 1: here a while. His name, his name is Andy Walker.

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Speaker 1: How are you Andy? Been a minute? Oh, it has

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Speaker 1: been a minute, and thanks for all that, Jeff Boy,

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00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: what a treat to talk to you and Lara and

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Speaker 1: be back on this podcast again. Colts junior writer Andy

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Speaker 1: Walker joining us right now or coach dot com he

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Speaker 1: can find all his work. He moved up to Muncy,

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Speaker 1: still covering the team from Afar. But Andy, Boy, I

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Speaker 1: gotta say, when we were talking in preseason, we talked

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Speaker 1: earlier with Stephen Holder and Lara myself, we did not

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Speaker 1: see O three on the schedule with Jacobe Brissette awaiting

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Speaker 1: the Colts to try and get their first win in

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Speaker 1: Miami up to this point, How confused or how surprised

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Speaker 1: are you at the Colt start? It's it's been different.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, you bring in Carson Wentz

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Speaker 1: and you can clearly see these first three weeks, you know,

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Speaker 1: other than I kind of cancel it last week just

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Speaker 1: because the ankles and all that. But you can clearly

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Speaker 1: see the talent and you can see when it works.

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Speaker 1: You know what it's supposed to look like. But you know,

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Speaker 1: when you're usually dependable, offensive lines had its struggles and

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Speaker 1: then the defense has been so you know, the defense

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Speaker 1: has been really good, I think the last couple weeks,

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Speaker 1: especially at getting the turnovers, but on those other drives

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Speaker 1: they've just been killers. You have to get more three

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Speaker 1: and outs and not maybe depend on the big place

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Speaker 1: so much. So there's there's many things to correct, clearly

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Speaker 1: your own three UM. But you know, I don't think

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Speaker 1: there's you know, it's a long season. There's there's no

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Speaker 1: reason to to give up now. Uh And and this team,

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Speaker 1: you know it won't UM And I think you know,

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Speaker 1: and roll your eyes if you want, keep just going

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Speaker 1: one day at a time, keep drilling at it. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, the injuries are gonna you know, hopefully some

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Speaker 1: of these injured guys will start working their way back,

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Speaker 1: get a little bit better, you know, every day, and

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Speaker 1: I think this thing will turn around. But it's just

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Speaker 1: kind of been weird so far. Some of the some

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Speaker 1: of the places you look at for strength have kids

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Speaker 1: struggled at times. And then the whole situation Klarawick Carson

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Speaker 1: has been a little bit weird just with the injuries

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Speaker 1: and all that. So you know, you look for him

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Speaker 1: to bounce back. You look for these guys to bounce

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Speaker 1: back and hopefully starting you know against this Dolphins team,

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Speaker 1: you can start to see signs of that. Andrew, we

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Speaker 1: were talking earlier, We referenced a couple of times the

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Speaker 1: fact that you've been in a similar situation, gotten off

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Speaker 1: to the slow start in previous seasons, looking back to

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen and that rally that they made late in

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Speaker 1: the season. You covered that team, and a lot of

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Speaker 1: people are kind of clinging to that as a bit

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Speaker 1: of a glimmer of hope in that you know, Frank

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Speaker 1: Reich has been able to rally his troops and you've

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Speaker 1: seen a locker room be galvanized through the type of

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Speaker 1: adversity that they've had earlier in this season. Is it

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Speaker 1: realistic to think that there are things that you took

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Speaker 1: from twenty eighteen that you can apply now. Is that

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Speaker 1: Is there any sort of a silver lining that you

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Speaker 1: do have a lot of guys in this locker room

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Speaker 1: carried over from being in that position, who can bring

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Speaker 1: this group together and put them in a situation that

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Speaker 1: you're playing your best football when you get into October

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Speaker 1: and November and making that type of push through the

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Speaker 1: end of the season. I think the one major kind

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Speaker 1: of advantage you have when you talk about all the

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Speaker 1: carryover from twenty eighteen and the one in five start

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Speaker 1: and coming back from that is you have a lot

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Speaker 1: of guys now that we're a lot younger than that,

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Speaker 1: are now veteran leaders, superstars, you know, Darius Leonard, Quinton Nelson,

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Speaker 1: guys like that that can that can tell the younger guys, hey, look,

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Speaker 1: you know we've gotten off to a bad start. That's clear.

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Speaker 1: We haven't gone off to the start we wanted to.

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Speaker 1: But there is a precedent here. We don't want to

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Speaker 1: have to do this, but we can. We've done it

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Speaker 1: before and we'll try to do it again. So I

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Speaker 1: think that's that's kind of the one kind of silver lining.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how much you have to go to

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Speaker 1: that well, because that twenteen season, you know, it's clearly

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Speaker 1: different than this year. There's different circumstances and all that,

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Speaker 1: and you had Andrew Luck working his way back, and

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Speaker 1: those games were so close. Those first you know, six

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Speaker 1: games were so close, and you start off one in

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Speaker 1: five and you could kind of see the wheels turning

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Speaker 1: a little bit. This time it's a little bit different,

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Speaker 1: and I think while you can draw from it, I

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Speaker 1: think you kind of separate yourself from it and just

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Speaker 1: try to try to really drill at what's been the

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Speaker 1: issues so far this season. Let's get those fixed and

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Speaker 1: let's move forward. Well, Andrew, you were one who had

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Speaker 1: a very special pregame tradition with Jacoby Brissette. He would

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Speaker 1: always fake a handoff to during the warmups for the

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Speaker 1: Cults going up against Jacoby Brissette. They know him incredibly well.

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Speaker 1: We talked with Stephen Holer about this as well. Based

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Speaker 1: on what you've seen Jacoby in a new location and

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Speaker 1: playing for his hometown franchise in Miami with the Dolphins. Now,

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Speaker 1: what are going to be the keys from what you

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Speaker 1: know in covering Jacoby, what you know of this defense,

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Speaker 1: in containing Jacoby Brissette getting a victory, and this defense

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Speaker 1: putting together the type of effort that they talked about

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Speaker 1: so much over the course of training camp, being this

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Speaker 1: incredibly physical, aggressive type of defense. Well, first off, what

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Speaker 1: you might call a quote unquote pregame tradition, I call

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Speaker 1: getting the team ready for the game. I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean it was like you won a contest every

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Speaker 1: week and went down there and you got thrown a

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Speaker 1: football from the coach, quarterback Jacoby Brissette, how's that happening?

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Speaker 1: Are you going to be a Miami catching his pregame

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Speaker 1: pass this time? I mean, I mean Jacoby personally had

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Speaker 1: me come down tick me off every week. It ticked

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Speaker 1: me off to see it. I swear kidding you. Literally,

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Speaker 1: you assaulted me on the field game in Houston because

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Speaker 1: you had so much fire in your eyes, because because

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Speaker 1: the quarterback of the team wanted to involve me, and

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Speaker 1: well that bring a kid from the stands down there,

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Speaker 1: not a grown man catching an outlet pass from the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I hated seeing you, very very ably by the way,

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Speaker 1: and very athletic looking. But you know, how did that even?

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Speaker 1: I know, like I accident, I promise you. When when

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Speaker 1: Andrew was starting, uh you know Andrew luck first name

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Speaker 1: basis with the two Andrews. But when he when Andrew

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Speaker 1: was starting and Jacoby was the backup, you know, I'd

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Speaker 1: be down on the field before the game doing whatever,

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Speaker 1: you know, pregame hits and and all that I get,

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Speaker 1: looking for autographs from the cold players. Well, no, he

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Speaker 1: was carrying our pregame live stream, is what he was

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Speaker 1: doing for me A lot of time. I'm teasing Andy,

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Speaker 1: I know you're a hard worker. But yeah, yeah, but

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Speaker 1: so Jacoby would be down there just warm it up,

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Speaker 1: and I happened to be in the corner back corner

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Speaker 1: of the end zone. Happened and he out of nowhere.

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Speaker 1: I see him coming at me with the ball one

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Speaker 1: time during center quarterback exchanges, and it just from there,

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Speaker 1: it just kind of evolved. And then there was one

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Speaker 1: game a couple of years ago where it was kind

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Speaker 1: of a tense situation on the field before the game,

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Speaker 1: and you know, you want to kind of, as a

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Speaker 1: team employee, you want to kind of, you know, remove

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Speaker 1: yourself and just kind of I'll just let the team,

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Speaker 1: you know, figure things out for this pregame. I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna do this little this, little yeah this. I turned

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Speaker 1: my head and I hear hi, hi, and I turned

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Speaker 1: around and Jacoby's just signal at me as hard as

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Speaker 1: he can to get over for this pregame tradition. So

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Speaker 1: obviously it was clearly important to him to be able

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Speaker 1: to do that. Did we win the game when he

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Speaker 1: first started this tradition, because if he didn't, we could

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Speaker 1: we should have just stopped it after one I mean,

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Speaker 1: rumor as the culture unbeaten in games in which dumb pass. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So so anyway, so that's how that happened. With Jacobe

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Speaker 1: as a quarterback. The the best comparison I can make

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Speaker 1: is kind of prime Big Ben in terms of the

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Speaker 1: way that he can He's he's a bigger guy, he's

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Speaker 1: a bigger quarterback, but somehow he's nimble enough to get

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Speaker 1: out of these precarious situations sure sacks, kind of scramble

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Speaker 1: out and just make something happen. We saw him perfectly

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Speaker 1: on Sunday. I mean you saw it forced overtime. I

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Speaker 1: mean that was unbelievable on the road. That is Jacoby

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Speaker 1: to a t. That is his game. And he can

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Speaker 1: make all the throws and all that, of course, but

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Speaker 1: that's that's his game. And so if you're the Colts,

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Speaker 1: you see Ryan Tannehill, who's kind of similarly built and

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Speaker 1: kind of you know, athletic like Jacoby. You let him

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Speaker 1: get out a couple of times, you know, last week,

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Speaker 1: So you can't let that happen. Now, Jacoby's not going

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Speaker 1: to be running for twenty twenty five yards at a time,

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Speaker 1: but you know, he's a guy that can make things

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Speaker 1: happen where when things break down. So if you're the

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Speaker 1: defense you just got. You gotta stay disciplined. If you're

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Speaker 1: in the back end, you got to drape those fevers

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Speaker 1: even longer than maybe you think you do. If things

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Speaker 1: are breaking down, if you hear the crowd start to react,

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Speaker 1: you gotta stick to your guy. Because Jacoby's looking for him.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna be stumbling bumbling around, He's gonna be rolling out,

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Speaker 1: and he's gonna be looking for his guy. You gotta

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Speaker 1: you gotta stick to your guy, maybe a little bit

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Speaker 1: longer than maybe you would normally. So he's a guy

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Speaker 1: that I built a lot, a lot of respectful not

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Speaker 1: just because he included me in his pregame warm up,

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Speaker 1: but because just the way he approaches things. I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, you hear Chris Ballad, Frank Reich, all those

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Speaker 1: guys gush about his leadership and what he brought in

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Speaker 1: that in those terms, but he you know, his toughness

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Speaker 1: and U you know, all that stuff, it all comes

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Speaker 1: into play and it's something the culture definitely. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he showed it last week. You're gonna have to contend

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Speaker 1: with that this week. Mandy Walker, he is a Colch

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Speaker 1: junior writer on colch dot com, giving us the latest

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Speaker 1: and greatest on this team. Nick Serriani now the headman

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Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, upstep Marcus Brady. But Frank has his hands

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Speaker 1: on that playbook. Have you noticed a difference this year

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Speaker 1: with coordinate interchange? You know, I don't know, you know,

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Speaker 1: with Frank calling plays. What the vibe I got from

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Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni end game was he was more of the

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Speaker 1: manager of Hey, Frank, third downs coming up, here's some possibilities,

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Speaker 1: or hey Frank, fourth, fourth and two, here's here's some

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Speaker 1: things that might work here, you know, and and of

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Speaker 1: course you know he's going to suggest plays, and he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be involved, you know, talking Marcus Brady and formerly

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Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni, they're going to be involved, of course, and

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Speaker 1: building the game plan and building the script and building

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Speaker 1: the best plays and all that. But in game, Frank

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Speaker 1: to me still seems totally in control of play to play,

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Speaker 1: kind of figuring that out, um, whereas Marcus Brady or

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Speaker 1: formerly a Nick Sirianni, is more of helping Frank manage

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Speaker 1: the other stuff, thinking ahead, personnel things like that. So

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Speaker 1: I haven't noticed much of a change in that regard. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, one thing I did like from last week

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Speaker 1: against the Titans. That that I hope to see more

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Speaker 1: of personally, just because I think it can be very effective.

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Speaker 1: I think you saw the two running backs on the field,

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Speaker 1: Taylor and Hines a lot more at the same time,

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Speaker 1: and I think that can be a really good thing.

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Speaker 1: You know, don't overdo it, but I think that can

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Speaker 1: be a really good formation to utilize in some some

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Speaker 1: specific situations where if you're a defense, what do you

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Speaker 1: I mean, what are you two there? You got two

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Speaker 1: guys in that in that instance averaging you know, six

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Speaker 1: yards to carry. You got Hines, who's a great path catcher.

855
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: So I like the creativity. I hope to see it

856
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 1: expand a little bit more, get those tight ends involved

857
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: a little bit more. I like seeing Moalley Cox last week. Yeah,

858
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 1: mo mo mo all day yep. So I think, um,

859
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: I think things are very similar in my eyes to

860
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: what I've seen. But but but definitely Marcus Brady is

861
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: making his mark in terms of helping kind of manage

862
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: the you know, the looking ahead to the third down

863
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: or looking down to fourth down, or you know, short

864
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: situations trying to help manage that. For Frank I Gotta

865
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: we talked to Stephen Holder from the Athletic earlier, and

866
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: I ask you the same thing, who, like, in your eyes,

867
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: through three games or maybe starting in training camp, what

868
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: did you think this Colts offense is? When you say

869
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: Colts offense is fill in the blank? What are they run?

870
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: First team? Even balanced? Fifty fifty? Ride the horse and

871
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor? The passing games goes through Pittman, who knows, like,

872
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: what is this Colts offense? To opposing defensive coordinators? Well,

873
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: I would have thought at first it was running the

874
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: damn ball, like from you know that that phrase that

875
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 1: came up, you know, very popular a couple of years ago,

876
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: and that hasn't really I thought last week he saw

877
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,919
Speaker 1: signs of it. But with Carson Wentz again last week,

878
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: just such an abnormal type situation when your quarterback's dealing

879
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: with what he's dealing with and you're still putting him

880
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: out there and he's doing the best he can. You know,

881
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,959
Speaker 1: it's just kind of a different feel. But I still

882
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: think the Colts that's what they want their identity to be.

883
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 1: And if you're opposing defensive coordinator, I think that's what

884
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: you get ready for. Now. I think we're still you

885
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: know when you have a Michael Pittman and as Zach

886
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: Pascal and you hope to see I think another point

887
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: Paris Campbell. Get him going, maybe get him involved, and

888
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:17,240
Speaker 1: maybe some more backfield stuff, some motion stuff, some crossing routes,

889
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: some things. Get him the ball a little bit more.

890
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: I think once you start seeing that, those things start

891
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: working together a little bit more, a couple more games

892
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: under your belt. Hopefully Carson's health improves a little bit

893
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: with the ankles, I think once you start seeing that,

894
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: and the offensive line settling down with Eric Fisher now back,

895
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: hopefully Brain Smith. You don't know his stats, but hopefully

896
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: he can start to get back soon. I think things

897
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 1: will start to settle down a little bit more, and

898
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: you'll see things open up a little bit more. You

899
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: just reference the offensive line or of course, you know,

900
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: run the damn ball, which was really I think gained

901
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: popularity primarily because it was Quenton Nelson who really drove that,

902
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: you know campaign when he came in with the hats

903
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: and then had him for I think anyone and everyone

904
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,479
Speaker 1: in the locker room. He was, you know, disseminating those

905
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: two get you did not well, I purchased I purchased one.

906
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: I can send you the link. I didn't get one,

907
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 1: but I did go out they do you have a

908
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: large noggin, Amby, I have an abnormally large noggin. You know,

909
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: this brain has to go somewhere, and that's you know,

910
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: that's just the way I was made with this huge head. Jeffrey,

911
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: what you wear? Oh, I'm a I'm a pea brain man.

912
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,879
Speaker 1: It's like seven and a quarter or seven and from

913
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 1: yar from Michigan. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Andy Walker

914
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: up in Muncy. I mean, Lara, I love talking to

915
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: him and we could talk about I know, I know that.

916
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: I just I don't know whether I want to push

917
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 1: the button and hang up on him because I know

918
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: he's going to strike at me before this interview is over.

919
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to interrupt, Lara. Oh my goodness, No, Jeffrey,

920
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: ha'sl This podcast is all about it. It takes some

921
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: you know, so many little twists and turns. But Andrew

922
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: you mentioned, you know, Eric Fisher is back. He is

923
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: still getting It seems to be a lot of that

924
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: conditioning getting back into quote unquote, you know game playing shape.

925
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 1: The help of the Achilles appears to be there that

926
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 1: appears to be very strong, but it's a whole lot

927
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,720
Speaker 1: different between practice and getting yourself back into one hundred

928
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: percent playing to game speed. Now you have this compounding

929
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: injury situation with Quenton Nelson. You mentioned Braden Smith, Ryan

930
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: Kelly playing with through that elbow he has, you know,

931
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 1: the sleeve on that. It appears that Mark Glinsky is

932
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: your only one hundred percent, one hundred percent healthy offensive lineman.

933
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 1: If he's even one hundred percent healthy. We don't know

934
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 1: what Glow could be battling. That has yet to be

935
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 1: on earthed. But where is your concern level with this

936
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: offensive line being incredibly battered at this point and then

937
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: trying to protect a quarterback on two sprained ankles. Well,

938
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 1: I gotta give him a lot of credit because that

939
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: first week was a struggle. I mean everyone saw it

940
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: and Carson Wentz was run around everywhere, couldn't seem to

941
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: get anything off the ground. The running game struggled. But

942
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: I really thought, and I'll give Eric Fisher. I mean

943
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: the fact that Eric Fisher's playing football, let alone practicing

944
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 1: or I mean it's amazing that he's he's even playing.

945
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: So a lot of credit goes to him and the

946
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 1: medical staff and everybody involved for him even be able

947
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 1: to play. But I think things have stabilized a little

948
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: bit now. Again to your point, there are you know,

949
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: when Quint Nelson leaves the game, and when Ryan Kelly's

950
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: dealing with what he's dealing with, and when brain Smith

951
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,439
Speaker 1: has missed a couple of games. Of course that's caused

952
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: for concern. I mean, this is the number top whatever

953
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: you want to say, top two three offensive line in

954
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 1: the NFL. When they're all there and accounted for. So

955
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,760
Speaker 1: if you don't have those elements, many of those elements

956
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 1: or some of them are questionable or might not play.

957
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: Of course that's a concern. But I do have to

958
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: give you know, I have to give these guys some credit,

959
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 1: you know, Read and Davenport and those guys that came

960
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: in the last couple of weeks. And I think again

961
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: hasn't been perfect, but I think it's stabilized enough to

962
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 1: where you can start moving forward and hopefully, you know,

963
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: hopefully whatever's nagging these guys will will start to correct

964
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,919
Speaker 1: itself and you can you can start to go from there.

965
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: So it's not the concern it was after week one

966
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: to me personally, I feel like things have stabilized a

967
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: little bit. Now it has to get much better, and

968
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: it doesn't get any easier. You know, every weekend, week out.

969
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 1: You've got all kinds of stars you're playing on up front.

970
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: But you know, I feel like things have stabilized enough

971
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 1: to where if brain Smith has to miss another game,

972
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: if Quintin Nelson, you know, we'll figure out what's going.

973
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: You know, it will take a lot for him not

974
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: to play. We all know that, Um, but if yeah,

975
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 1: if you basically you feel like Quentin won have to

976
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 1: be missing a limb to not play, like with yeah,

977
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, So if if it's that bad and

978
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: Quintin Elson has to miss time or anything like that,

979
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 1: I feel like the Colts have stabilized things enough to

980
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 1: where whoever you put in will do a good enough job.

981
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 1: You know, the Carson Witz thing. Put any offensive line

982
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: out there, it's gonna look different, you know, with his

983
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: ankles and all that. Put Put whatever Hall of Fame

984
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: offensive lining one out there. When Carson's what he's dealing with,

985
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 1: it's gonna look different. But hopefully Carson can start to

986
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: stabilize and this offensive line can continue to kind of

987
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 1: move that trajectory up a little bit and you can

988
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 1: get some of those guys back. I like your positive vibe.

989
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 1: Andy Walker right there. Follow him on Twitter at a

990
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: Walker coats, and follow him on colts dot com. You

991
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: can see the latest of what Andrew is writing Ball

992
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: State grad up there. He's proud of that. He's also

993
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 1: a Reds fan and he loves the Beatles. Andy. We're

994
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: gonna let you go here, but I do have a

995
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: little bit of a bone to pick with you, and

996
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this on a public level because it

997
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: drives me nuts, and quite frankly, I don't like you

998
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: very much when you do this. So let me set

999
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: the scenario. Elo Home Games. I'm up there on the

1000
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 1: big screen, you know, given the announcements and three things

1001
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: to watch for. I'm live. I got the producer in

1002
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: my ear, I got sixty four thousand people looking at me.

1003
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 1: Every stinking time. My phone blows up as soon as

1004
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: I start the head because it's old Andy boy upstairs

1005
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,720
Speaker 1: in the press box, speed dialing me over and over

1006
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: and over again. Of course, at that time, I don't

1007
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 1: think turn your phone off, because you go to some

1008
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: notes that you know, if you're in a you know

1009
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: you're a professional. I am a professional. You were unflappable.

1010
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: I know I'm not unflappable, because this thing's gonna from

1011
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: the best I thought you learned from, like Payton Manning

1012
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: going into a box with like seventy thousand rowdy Patriots

1013
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 1: fans trying to rattle him on down and stuff. I'm

1014
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: not the sheriff, but I will say this. I'm putting

1015
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 1: it on in a public forum right now. If he

1016
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 1: does it again, I'm gonna have him bounced out of

1017
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: that stage. Oh wow, Lah, Lara, I gotta tell you

1018
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: there's no better feelings than doing that to Jeffrey. When

1019
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 1: he does his life it's on a video board and

1020
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: he doesn't he doesn't react to it. But I know, Lara,

1021
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 1: I did this to him one time. One time when

1022
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: he was doing a Facebook live. I did this to him,

1023
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: and I called him during a Facebook live and I'm like, hey,

1024
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 1: what an answer? Haha. And after that he does it

1025
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 1: every stinking week. I forget about every stinking week, and

1026
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, so like I say, credential could

1027
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: be taken away next home game or a walker, Hey,

1028
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: Jeffrey wins. I heard dark Waters too, is in the works.

1029
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 1: You please, so done us a details on Dark Waters too?

1030
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: Is that a Netflix Colts official podcast presented by wind Bet,

1031
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: proud sports book partner of your Indianapolis Colts. Betting is

1032
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 1: a team sport bet together at win Bet and I'll

1033
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 1: bet you on this one. You're gonna get bounced from

1034
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: Lucas Oil if you keep up your Shenanigans. But Andy,

1035
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: we like you. We appreciate the time. Make sure you

1036
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 1: follow him on Twitter at a Walker Colts and you

1037
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: can find what he's writing about this football team on

1038
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: Colts dot Com. Appreciate the time. And Andrew, all right, thanks,

1039
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 1: that's it Andrew Walker Ello. We're going down to Miami. Alla,

1040
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: going down to Miami. I've never been to Miami. Oh stop,

1041
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: a new venue for me now covering a game. They're

1042
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: never been to Miami and then run there. No, no,

1043
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 1: So this is gonna be a new new experience, new adventure.

1044
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: I'm excited looking forward to South Beach. If you're twenty three,

1045
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 1: it's the place. No, I mean, I think we'll take

1046
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: a hold on it. I'm gonna take a hold of suggestion.

1047
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 1: I'm just saying South Beaches, you know, love hate relationship.

1048
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 1: If you're like me, fifty is also not going anywhere near.

1049
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 1: This is also a business tros. You know, like we

1050
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: lock in, but I do like to go and try.

1051
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 1: We're getting there early. We do have the majority of

1052
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: the day on Saturday to be able to enjoy, so

1053
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: we'd like to go out, get a little bit of

1054
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: a run in. Maybe Lounge of the Pool had a

1055
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: lovely dinner because you know, I do love some fresh seafood.

1056
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 1: I like that. You know Holder dropped the Cuban food.

1057
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,879
Speaker 1: That's something we don't get a ton of in Central India.

1058
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 1: I think there's a Versaide down there. Check out the

1059
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 1: name Versaide for Cuban Cuban food because it's amazing. If

1060
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: memory serves verse side down in Miami, I love it.

1061
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: I love it. Do you think do you think, um,

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Speaker 1: Matt Taylor and Coachmancher, you're gonna be up for that?

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Speaker 1: Do you think I'm gonna be rolling solo out to

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Speaker 1: find something like where's a steak and potato place? Or

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Speaker 1: or a grilled cheese or a slice of pizza. I

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Speaker 1: think that's what you get with those guys. But no,

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Speaker 1: there is some splash down there in South beach. Hey,

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Speaker 1: have fun down there. Appreciate it everything you do. Follow

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Speaker 1: Lara Overton at Lara Overton on Twitter, and of course

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Speaker 1: you can find her all over the Colts dot com

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Speaker 1: website and apps and every TV and radio. She's everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Keep up the great work. You make my job a

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Speaker 1: lot easier, lady, Hey, you make Matja have a lot

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Speaker 1: more fun. Good commination. Don't forget a big thanks to

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Speaker 1: on Lara Overton week in and week out. This is

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Speaker 1: the Colts Official Podcast. A big thanks to Stephen Holder

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Speaker 1: and Andrew Walker for today's show. We got to get

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Speaker 1: off to snide. It starts this week on the road

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Speaker 1: for the second of a three game road swing. The

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Speaker 1: following week after that is Baltimore on Monday night. But llo,

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Speaker 1: let's get it going this week. Colts fans, you want

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Speaker 1: talk to you next week and hopefully with a couple

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Speaker 1: of sun tans,