1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio had the best sports talk lineup in 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 2: It's game time. It is Manzi Milanios. Not the game 5 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: time that you're used to. But for the next four hours, 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 2: we are gonna have some fun. I've got some New 7 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: Year's resolutions. Plus we have to nail down what our 8 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 2: top NFL story is of twenty twenty five. 9 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 3: You confuse me for a hot second because I really 10 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 3: don't know what day it is. We're in that weird 11 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 3: limbo of time. So when you said game time, I 12 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 3: was like, is it Thursday? 13 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 4: Is there is? I was so thrown off. 14 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 2: I think the birthday boy Lebron James would. 15 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 3: Say, Tacco tuday eliscom n. 16 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: Not the only birthday boy today. Happy Birthday Tiger Woods. 17 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 2: Birthday Tiger the Big five oz for Tiger Woods, which 18 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: has me emotional even though he's a year older than me. 19 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 2: A lot of things to get to As the road 20 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: to Milan runs through Saint Louis, c Elia Mallin and 21 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 2: Alyssa lou and Amber Glenn compete at the twenty twenty 22 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: six priviagen Us Figure Skating Championships January seventh through the 23 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 2: eleventh be there as the twenty twenty six US Olympic 24 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: Figure Skating team is named live tickets at US Figure 25 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: Skating dot Org. Rams and Falcons felt like a throwaway game. 26 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: Entering it, it was anything but at the end playoff 27 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: implications as the Rams now in that sixth spot in 28 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 2: the NFC, the Falcons could have an effect on what 29 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: happens with the NFC South. Now if they keep on 30 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 2: winning and they win in the final week, could have 31 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: an effect on the Panthers and Buccaneers because they would 32 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 2: be a part of a tiebreaker if there was a 33 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 2: three way tie. But we're talking about the game within 34 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 2: the game, Manci and that are and that is a 35 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: play that was called incompletes on a punkin Nakua pass 36 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: and another play that was called incomplete on a pass 37 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 2: to two at Well that was considered possibly interference. And 38 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 2: that's where I want to start because last night Joe 39 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 2: buck Troy, the ESPN crew, many on social media felt 40 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: that in one of the final passes of the game, 41 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: throwing deep to two two at Well, that pass interference 42 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 2: should have been called. John Perry, the ESPN referee that 43 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 2: is in the booth with them said as much that 44 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: that is that is past interference. That is past interference 45 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 2: last night in Atlanta. And I know, Maazi, that Troy 46 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 2: Aikman and John Perry and all these people have more 47 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: qualifications when it comes to football. Oh is Russell York. 48 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Russell Yorke gave it to the wrong guy. 49 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 2: I know they have more qualifications than what I do. 50 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: But that wasn't pass interference last night in Atlanta. It 51 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: was not. So whether it is Russell York or John 52 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: Perry or Troy Aikman or Joe Bucker or whoever or 53 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: Uncle Buck, doesn't matter. It was not pass interference. 54 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 4: Listen, I. 55 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 3: I get sit here and say I agree with you, 56 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 3: but I don't. I thought it was past interference. I 57 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 3: thought he prevented him from catching the ball holding his 58 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 3: arm down. 59 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 4: Now do I care? 60 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 5: Not? 61 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 3: Really, I'm not a RAMS fan, you know what I mean. 62 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 3: I've seen the NFL miss more egregious calls. I've also 63 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 3: seen the NFL call pass interference on less than what 64 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 3: happened with two Tuo out. Well, I've seen both sides 65 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 3: of the coin. But at the same time, even though 66 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 3: I was like, that's past interference. In the middle of 67 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 3: the game. The boyfriend says, yeah, but you don't call 68 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 3: that right now, and I say, you're right, you're right, 69 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 3: you don't call that right now, because I would complain 70 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,839 Speaker 3: if somebody made a, you know, a game changing call 71 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 3: against my team at the very end of the game, 72 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 3: I would be upset. So I was like, you're right, 73 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 3: You're right, I would be upset. But that was past interference. 74 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 2: This is how it sounded last night in Atlanta, late 75 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: in the game between the Rams and Falcons. 76 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 6: Watch the left arm of that well and the grab here. 77 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: Not allowing his arm to. 78 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 5: Go up to make the catch. That's a misscall. And 79 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 5: that's a good point, Joe. I mean that first arm 80 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 5: it's hand fighting. But the second time he holds them 81 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 5: to the left arm down right when he's trying to 82 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 5: make the catch, that's a pass interference. 83 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 2: And I think that your boyfriend is one hundred percent 84 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 2: correct in this scenario. Here's what the Rams were doing. 85 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: So last night, whether people realize it or not, the 86 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 2: Rams did not have a lot to play for. It's 87 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 2: actually why I think they were down twenty one to nothing. 88 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 4: They could have. 89 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 3: Also, sorry, I forgot to say when you were saying 90 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 3: the things that they were playing for. They do have 91 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 3: an NFL pick that could have been top ten if 92 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 3: they would have actually beat the Falcons. Now it's moved up, 93 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 3: like I think, to the twelfth pick, but they were 94 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 3: also playing for that. 95 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 2: Sure that would have helped their cause with a win, 96 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 2: But to think that they had a chance to the 97 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: number one overall seed, they didn't. You don't know who 98 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 2: you're gonna play. You can't sit there and say five 99 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 2: or six when you're not necessarily sure on who's going 100 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: to be two or three with the matchup. The loss 101 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: would hurt them for sure, But in the grand scheme 102 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 2: of things, the prize for the Rams would have been 103 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 2: the number one overall seed. And since the Seahawks and 104 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 2: forty nine ers one on Sunday, there wasn't as much 105 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 2: urgency for the Rams in that game. And you know 106 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: how come I know this is because they were just 107 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 2: chucking the ball down the field. If they won it, great, 108 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: if they didn't win it great in that specific pass 109 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 2: in that specific instance to to two at well, if 110 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 2: you are trying, if you are playing in a game, Mancy, 111 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 2: with sixteen seconds left, and you're at the thirty five 112 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 2: yard line. What are you normally trying to do in 113 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: a three point game? Tye it, yes, kick a field goal. 114 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 2: By the way, great job, because I hate pop quizzes 115 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 2: and Moncy just passed with flying colors. You're trying to 116 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 2: kick a field goal. So what do the Rams do? 117 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 2: They chuck one down the field, which you know what 118 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 2: else it does takes up a lot of time. 119 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 4: It does. 120 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 2: So if you complete the pass and let's say two 121 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 2: to two at well catches the ball and is tackled 122 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 2: at the ten yard line. 123 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 4: How much time is left to that point. 124 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: Nine seconds was when the play ends up ending. So 125 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 2: now you have nine seconds to run down the field 126 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 2: if he catches it, and go and spike the ball 127 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 2: for a game winning kick to get everybody. And I'm 128 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 2: talking about all the linemen. I'm not talking about one. 129 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 2: I'm talking about getting five NFL linemen to sprint entirely 130 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: down the field and get there in time to be 131 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 2: able to spike the football. It's not going to happen. 132 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: What you would do in that situation is you would 133 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 2: look to something in the middle of the field, go 134 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 2: up and spike it again with sixteen seconds left, so 135 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 2: you have nine seconds and then try to throw onto 136 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 2: the sidelines, kick the field goal and call it good. 137 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 2: That's what it is. That's how you would to tie 138 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 2: the game. Now, when they only had nine seconds left, 139 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 2: they had to throw an out route to Pokin Nakula. 140 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 2: The Rams had no interest in all of this. And 141 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 2: to your boyfriend Shawn's point, you don't make that call 142 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 2: at that point in the game, especially when the Rams 143 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 2: know what they're doing. You're not going to just throw 144 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 2: it up and hope to get a pass interference call. 145 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 2: And that's why it shouldn't be past interference. So when 146 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 2: we hear something of like, oh, that's pass interference, it's 147 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 2: the same stupid thing as there's holding on every play 148 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 2: of an NFL game. Every single play you could call holding, 149 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 2: every single play you could call pass interference. We don't 150 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 2: need to ruin. We don't need to review pass interference. 151 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 2: That ruined the game for the three weeks that it 152 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 2: was in place. It truly did. It was three weeks, 153 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 2: and then heck it was week two because it happened 154 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: in the Seahawks Steelers game. The Seahawks completely got benefited 155 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 2: from a call against Pittsburgh, and everybody's like, you know what, 156 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 2: this kind of whack. We shouldn't be calling past interference anymore. 157 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: It lasted two weeks in the National Football League. We 158 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: don't need to make changes. It was not past the 159 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 2: interference last night, not only because of the jostling, not 160 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 2: only because to tow out Well, also using the city, 161 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 2: the contact fact, all of that. It's the situation. It's 162 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 2: the situation that was going on. The ref's knew what 163 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 2: the Rams are trying to do. The only way if 164 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 2: two two at Well would have been tackled in that 165 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: spot for the Rams to get a stoppage of the 166 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 2: clock would be if there was a penalty. And so 167 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: they were trying to gain the system and the refs 168 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: knew it, and the refs weren't gonna let him get 169 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 2: away with it. 170 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 3: So I, you know, again, agree with that you don't 171 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 3: make that call. I still think it was past interference. 172 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 3: But you know why they made that play. 173 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 4: You kind of you hit on it that. That's like 174 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 4: it didn't seem like they really cared. It seemed like they. 175 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 3: Came out a little bit like relaxed, and then Atlanta 176 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 3: came on to put on a show. 177 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 4: At home understandably so, and they try to catch up. 178 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 3: But the other storyline surrounding Matthew Stafford is the MVP. 179 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 3: So he needed to make that throw, whether they want 180 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 3: or not, because how many interceptions did he have? Because 181 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 3: he affected my championship team. Thank you so much, Matthew Stafford. 182 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 7: And so he was in that moment, was trying to 183 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 7: maybe everybody's like, no, no, no, let's show you what 184 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 7: Matthew Stafford can do without Pukinakua, because that was the 185 00:08:58,360 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 7: first thing that came out. 186 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 3: Oh, if Nagua doesn't have a good game, Matthew Stafford 187 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 3: doesn't either. And so at that moment, he's like, I 188 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 3: watch me throw this down to somebody else and we're 189 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 3: gonna catch it and it's gonna go right back up 190 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 3: to Oh okay, no, Matthew Stafford is not. 191 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 2: Do you think the Rams sabotaged it passed the pukakua 192 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: to strengthen his MVP case by throwing it the two 193 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 2: two out, Well. 194 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 3: I'm trying to that's reason as to why you made 195 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 3: such a stupid decision. 196 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 4: I'm trying to give. 197 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 2: Reason here, and that's enhancing his MVP odds, which during 198 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 2: the game. 199 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 4: In the middle. That would have been a nice stup. 200 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 3: You would have been like, oh, there's Matthew Stafford getting 201 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 3: them back in the conversation would have shifted again. 202 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 4: But as I told you, honestly, like I don't even 203 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 4: care about all that. I care about the Pooka Akua catch, Dan, 204 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 4: that was a catch, for the sake of football. That 205 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 4: was a catch. 206 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 2: Moncey for some reason, thinks it's a catch when the 207 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 2: defender jostles the ball from the receiver so they don't 208 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 2: get it, so they don't have possession. 209 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 4: For hot second. 210 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 2: He did it, and then you got it again. But 211 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 2: then your other point was, but that's because the defender 212 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 2: was fighting, yes, was fighting him, Yes, so it should 213 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 2: be a catch. 214 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 8: It was not it after for a hot second he 215 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 8: didn't have it, but to like keep his legs in 216 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 8: bound to catch the ball start falling for the sake 217 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 8: of football, that's a catch. 218 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 2: It wasn't even close. There was there was a part. 219 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 2: There was a heck of an athletic feet by Poka 220 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 2: Nakua to make the catch with his body control, to 221 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 2: have his feet in to be able to catch the 222 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 2: ball with one hand, and I feel the defender helped 223 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 2: that as well, but no, absolutely not. 224 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 4: He had it looked like it hit his form, which 225 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:40,719 Speaker 4: is even more impressive than I thought. 226 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 2: The defender's hand on top of the football would allowed 227 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 2: it to at least stay in the grasp of Puka 228 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 2: for the second, and then when the hand was being 229 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 2: pulled down he lost control for that second and then 230 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 2: it was then gain control. But his feet were not 231 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 2: in bounds at that time, and that's why it was 232 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 2: incomplete out of bounds. No two feet down. 233 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 4: I don't even care. 234 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 3: I just like, for the sake of football. If I'm 235 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 3: fighting to catch a ball and I do that, you 236 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 3: better give me the catch. 237 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jason Stewart understands what you're saying. 238 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 6: Jason, When you keep saying for the second football, I 239 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 6: think I know what you mean by this. Like I 240 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 6: came up as an umpire. I did some umpiring, you know, 241 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 6: little league and high school and stuff. And if there 242 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 6: was a banger at first base, say there was a 243 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 6: great play in the hole it short and a banger 244 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 6: at first I'm not going to I'm gonna reward the 245 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 6: good play. 246 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 247 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 6: If I could go either way and you have an 248 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 6: amazing play there, I'm not going to be the kill 249 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 6: joy in that situation. I felt like the referees and 250 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 6: the people in New York, whoever's overseeing the replay or 251 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 6: the kill joy. It was an amazing catch that should 252 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 6: have been featured and celebrated ancality where he lost maybe 253 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 6: possession for a half second. Yes, you take away just 254 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 6: like the charger play that we brought up yesterday. Why 255 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 6: would you take away the joy of the stadium in 256 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 6: that moment at the end on a non consequential h 257 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 6: what was it hands to the face call? Yes, you 258 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 6: have to have more awareness if you're the referee crew 259 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 6: on the just the way the game is going, reward 260 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 6: the play down? 261 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 2: Now, it was called to catch on the field, so 262 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: it was replay that overturned it. Yes, so the issue 263 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 2: would be with replay in that scenario. 264 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, whoever does. 265 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 4: Yeah like slowing down anything. 266 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 3: You can make an argument for whatever side you want 267 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 3: to argue. I hate slowing it down. Stop slowing it down. 268 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Whatever you want to argue, 269 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 3: slowing it down helps either side. I Frame by frame, 270 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 3: Oh look we hear no possession next rame, Ana, I 271 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 3: think you guys are living in like a Bizarro football, Well, 272 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 3: I think you are. 273 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 2: You guys want pass interference on a play that doesn't 274 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 2: warrant it, and then you want a catch on a 275 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 2: play where he didn't have his feet in bounds and 276 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 2: he was catching the football. 277 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 6: I'm actually with you on the first one, Dan, and 278 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 6: you are. And yeah, so if if, if you want 279 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 6: the referees to be aware in that moment of what 280 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 6: the rams are trying to do, I also want the 281 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 6: referees to be aware in the moment of how great 282 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 6: a catch that was and reward the great catch as 283 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 6: opposed to be a killjoy. 284 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna see this one more time because you're 285 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 3: you're making it seem like that. It was so clearly 286 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 3: not a catch and it was like, no, he caught 287 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 3: it as he was fighting with somebody. 288 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 2: There is a camera view where the football isn't touching 289 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 2: anybody after he is trying. 290 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 3: To pay And how long in real time do you 291 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 3: think that is? Like if we're slowing it down, it 292 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 3: seems like a lot. 293 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 2: But that that's how you right, that's a catch. He 294 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 2: has the ball, yes, but he doesn't complete the catch. 295 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 4: How he's bringing the ball in with his arm. 296 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 9: That is that is. 297 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 4: Finishing the move. 298 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 2: Keep watching, keep watching. 299 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 6: I am. 300 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 2: He's trying to. 301 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 4: He has his arm on his hand on his forearm, 302 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 4: and he's. 303 00:13:52,880 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 2: Still separated him from the football. So him, but he 304 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 2: didn't complete the catch because the catch wasn't completed, Isaac, Lohingkron, 305 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 2: watch the wait, Manzi's about to see the ball come 306 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 2: loose on this replay, and there is there, it goes, 307 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: there goes. He pulled his arm away. That's a good second. 308 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 4: But then it was still with him and when he fell, 309 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 4: he had the catch. 310 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: He had the ball, Isaac. 311 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 10: For first of all, Mancy, you need to start a 312 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 10: side hustle and work your way towards becoming an NFL referee, 313 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 10: because I want these Mancey explanations on the field as 314 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 10: an NFL referee. So I want you to repeat for me. 315 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 10: The play has been ruled a catch, even though he 316 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 10: bobbled it for a hot second first down that would 317 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 10: add so much more enjoyment. Now here he ended up 318 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 10: with the ball. Here's the problem. By the letter of 319 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 10: the law in the rule book, a catch is defined, 320 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 10: among other things, as firm grasp and control. 321 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 2: He had it. 322 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 10: Now there was a split second as he's coming down 323 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 10: where the ball was separated by like a millimeter from 324 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 10: his form, and that is not firm grasp and control. 325 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 10: By the letter of the law, It's not a catch, 326 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 10: even though it walks like a catch, it acts like 327 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 10: a catch, it talks like a catch. The other thing 328 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 10: to consider here is the ruling on the field of 329 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 10: that play initially after discussion was incomplete pass. If the 330 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 10: initial ruling on the field was completed catch, is that 331 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 10: enough to get it overturned because it has to be 332 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 10: clear and other. 333 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 2: I thought it was. I thought it was ruled complete. 334 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 3: I was. I was thrown off when you said that. 335 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 3: But I also wasn't paying attention that closely because I 336 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 3: was like, that's a catch. I thought it was ruled incomplete. 337 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 6: In the moment one of the line's crew said it 338 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 6: was a catch. Oh, I see, another one said it wasn't, and. 339 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 2: Then they confer, Yeah they did, So you are right, 340 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 2: and looking at the play by play, you're right. It 341 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 2: was ruled on the field incomplete. 342 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 10: So if the initial ruling a catch would have been 343 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 10: enough to be overturned being clear and obvious. 344 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 2: This is this is why the NFL uses the terms 345 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 2: upheld so because it doesn't give you a way, like 346 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 2: they'll overturn a call or a call will be upheld. 347 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 2: They don't say that there was inconclusive evidence of a 348 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 2: certain way. They'll just say it was upheld. There may 349 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 2: be evidence that confirms it for the original call, but 350 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 2: they but they won't tell you if it's confirmation or 351 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 2: if it's inconclusive. They will tell you if the call 352 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 2: is overturned, but the upheld portion of it, they won't 353 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 2: tell you on why the call didn't change. That's their 354 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 2: kind of sneaky way of keeping things under wraps. 355 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 3: Sure. 356 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 2: I just think the Rams in that scenario, if they 357 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 2: really then with with nine seconds left, you know, throw 358 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 2: another bomb like it doesn't right at. 359 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 3: That point, it's like making Allowing that to be a 360 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 3: catch was still not like a game winning moment for Rams. 361 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 4: They still had to do something else. I just again again, 362 00:16:58,960 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 4: it was a catch. 363 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 2: Hey, we made it interesting, b John Robinson and entertained us. 364 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford's entertain interceptions entertainment, entertainment. I thought they were 365 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 2: all right. 366 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: I think Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk 367 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at 368 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: foxsports radio dot Com and within the iHeartRadio app. 369 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 2: She's Monty Blago, So I'm Dan Byer. It's Fox Sports Radio. 370 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 2: Ever wanted to try an Olympic and Paralympic sport, Try fencing. 371 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 2: It's fast, safe and easy to start. 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Do you 381 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 2: think that occurred on the two to two at well 382 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 2: long incompletion at the end of last night's game between 383 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 2: the Falcons and Rams Manzi's on one side, I'm on 384 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 2: the other. Settle the debate, mic Oh, that was. 385 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 11: One hundred percent fast in appearance. 386 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 9: Well, by you, I mean he freaking grabbed his arm. 387 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 9: He couldn't bring his arm up there to make the catch. 388 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 11: He was having to do it one handed. There was 389 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 11: initially some mutual hand fighting, but then the. 390 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 9: Second dab of the arm by the defensive back, he 391 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 9: really did grab his arm and if he had not, 392 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 9: he would have made that catch. They would have been 393 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 9: lined up for a field goal or even maybe a touchdown. 394 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 9: So yeah, I agree with you. It was definitely a 395 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 9: past an appearance. 396 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 4: And what about that. 397 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 3: Pukin Akua catch. 398 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 4: Wasn't that a catch for the sake of the NFL? 399 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 4: In football? Wasn't that a catch? 400 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 11: Well? 401 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 9: Okay, that one there, it looked like it. Then the 402 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 9: last camera angle they showed, they did show the ball 403 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 9: move around. Now, it didn't touch the ground, but it 404 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 9: can't be moving. It had to have been secured since 405 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 9: he landed out of bound, it could not have moved. 406 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 9: If it had a moved, not moved it all and. 407 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 11: He landed on the ground, it would have been, you know, 408 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 11: a catch. But because as he kind. 409 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 9: Of twisted the ball did move around a little bit 410 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 9: that it got it wrong. But it was beautiful. It 411 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 9: should have counted, but it definitely was seemed it was 412 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 9: accurately deemed incomplete. 413 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 3: Well, on a serious note, what do you make of 414 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 3: the MVP uh for the NFL and the shift in 415 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 3: the middle of the game where Drake May now is 416 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 3: favored to win the MVP over Matthew Stafford. 417 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, I mean, I guess that if the 418 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 9: Rams had won that and maybe Stafford directed the game 419 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 9: winning drive, maybe it wouldn't have had that shift. I myself, 420 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 9: I get it. Drake May has been, you know, fantastic. 421 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 9: I think a lot of their improvement has to do 422 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 9: more with Mike Grabil even though you know, Drake May 423 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 9: has been fantastic. 424 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 11: I think Christian. 425 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 9: McCaffrey is being overlooked. And then just the nature of 426 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 9: the business for you know, whatever reason. We only talk 427 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 9: about quarterbacks with the MVP, and I know it's the 428 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 9: most important position, but Christian McCaffrey has been such a 429 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 9: weapon running the ball, catching the ball, keeping that offensive 430 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 9: float even when they didn't have their starting quarterback. They 431 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 9: don't have their starting wide receiver lots of times, and 432 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 9: he's been amazing. But he's gonna get overlooked, and it's 433 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 9: gonna wind up being Drake May or Matthew Stafford, but 434 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:25,719 Speaker 9: probably May. 435 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 2: Mike Jones joining us here on Fox Sports Radio covering 436 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 2: the NFL for the Athletic find him on ex at 437 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 2: by Mike Jones. She's Monty Belanios, I'm Dan Byer. Before 438 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 2: we look ahead to week eighteen, just something else from 439 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 2: week seventeen. You know, the Bills don't get the two 440 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 2: point conversion against Philadelphia, end up dropping that game in 441 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 2: what was a funky game all around for so many reasons. 442 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 2: But why is Buffalo so inconsistent? Why have they not 443 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 2: just I mean they're streaky is a nice way of 444 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 2: putting it. I guess inconsistent is the glass half empty 445 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 2: way of putting it. Well, what is going down with 446 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 2: going on with these up and down Bills? 447 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 9: Well, I think the the biggest problem is they are 448 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 9: so Josh Allen dependent. You know, everybody's going to have 449 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 9: an off game here and there. They don't have anybody 450 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 9: capable of kind of taking up the slack for him. Yes, 451 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 9: they have James Cook and you know, and he you know, 452 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 9: is a dynamic running back, but none of his wide 453 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 9: receivers can win one on one matchup. 454 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 11: There's nobody that. 455 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 9: Okay, Josh Allen just needs to be able to throw 456 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 9: up a jump ball and know that his guy's going 457 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 9: to snatch it out of the air like Matthew Stafford 458 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 9: does with Puka or with DeVante Adams. They don't have 459 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 9: anybody like that in Buffalo. And so when Josh Allen's 460 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 9: is a little bit off, then the whole team is off. 461 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 11: Then the whole offense, you know, is sputtering. 462 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 9: And you know, we saw him sometimes when he gets 463 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 9: in that mode, he tries to do too much and 464 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 9: then he gets himself into trouble and had that fumble 465 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 9: that really led to that one, uh, you know, the 466 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 9: the touchdowns for Philly. So that's the biggest problem with them. 467 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 9: And I, you know, I feel like one hand that 468 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 9: the path has opened up for him to maybe get 469 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 9: that Super Bowl with Patrick Mahomes out of the way 470 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,719 Speaker 9: and maybe Lamar Jackson out of the way. But at 471 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 9: the same time, they're so inconsistent everything around him that 472 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 9: I just don't know they have enough to win a 473 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 9: super Bowl. 474 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 3: Let's move on to that game in Baltimore between the 475 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 3: Ravens and the Steelers fighting for the division. 476 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 4: Is there a coach really on the hot seat and 477 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 4: who do you think as the edge? 478 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 9: You know, it's really hard to say whether or not 479 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 9: Mike Tomlin or John Harball is on the hot seat. 480 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,959 Speaker 9: Both of them really well respected. They've had a lot 481 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 9: of success, but then when they get to the postseason 482 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 9: that success has been it's been a long time, I think, 483 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 9: you know, it's been something like eighteen years for Tomlin 484 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 9: and maybe thirteen years for Harball. Would I be surprised 485 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 9: if one of those teams decided to mutually part ways 486 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 9: and the coach, you know, wanted to change the scenery? Know, 487 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 9: are either one of them deserving of being fired? I 488 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 9: don't think so when you look at their problems compared 489 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 9: to a lot of the other teams. I mean, take 490 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 9: Washington just right down the road from Baltimore. They would 491 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 9: love it if they could get to the playoffs and 492 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 9: win a game and then be done, or even make 493 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 9: the playoffs consistently, you know, you know, and have the 494 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 9: type of problems that Baltimore has. There's a lot of 495 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 9: teams in worst shape. The stability is something that you know, 496 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 9: once he's gone, you know, can you duplicate it? Is 497 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 9: it something like you're going to bring in somebody And 498 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 9: we saw when Bill Belichick left. 499 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 11: With Garrod Mayo. 500 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 9: It was disastrous, But maybe quickly you can have somebody 501 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 9: turning around, like we saw with Mike Brabil, but that's 502 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 9: a big gamble, so I don't know, they better be 503 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 9: very sure that they have a sound candidate to take 504 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 9: the place of one of those two coaches that are 505 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 9: going to wind up being Hall of Fame coaches. 506 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 2: One day, Mike Jones covers the NFL for the Athletic 507 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 2: joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. The crazy thing 508 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 2: about the Ravens thing to me, Mike, and I don't 509 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 2: know if this is what you've heard in your circles 510 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 2: throughout time, but there seemed to be an attack on 511 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 2: Harbaugh and maybe John Harbaugh is not long for the job. 512 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 2: And then there seemed to be this counter attack in 513 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 2: saying Lamar Jackson isn't is falling asleep in meetings, He's 514 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 2: wants practice in the afternoon, so he gets his way 515 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 2: that way. It felt like these stories were being put 516 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 2: out there in a very convenient manner. Were there rumblings? 517 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 2: Are there rumblings that there's a disconnect between John Harbaugh 518 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 2: and Lamar Jackson and Baltimore. 519 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 9: I hadn't heard that, none of the stuff that came 520 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 9: out until they are on the ropes and their season 521 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 9: is you know, Lamar is injured, and they don't know, 522 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 9: you know, if they're going to be able to make 523 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 9: the playoffs. And it's amazing because really, when you think 524 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 9: about Lamar Jackson's one of the most talented quarterbacks. 525 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 11: Of his generations. He's just not healthy. 526 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 9: And it's just quite interesting that now that he's having 527 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 9: it down year, can't stay healthy, that all of a 528 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 9: sudden there are these problems that are coming out that 529 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 9: had never been the case with them. I'm not saying 530 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 9: that's not true, but it's funny when you're winning, then 531 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 9: maybe he kind of looked the other way when there's 532 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 9: some transgressions, and now that he's not on the field, 533 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 9: they're frustrations. And it did seem like there was kind 534 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 9: of like this volley back and forth between camps, and 535 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 9: so it's going to be interesting to see where it 536 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 9: goes with that. Obviously there are two very huge instrumental 537 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 9: figures in that organization to their success. You know, is 538 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 9: it something where Baltimore feels like they can have not 539 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 9: as dramatic a drop off and may be able to, 540 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 9: you know, have other areas elevate to make up for 541 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 9: what you lose with Lamar Jackson. I don't know, but again, 542 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 9: he means a lot to that city. There are many 543 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 9: many teams that would line up and fork over a 544 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 9: lot of draft sticks if they heard that he was 545 00:25:58,359 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 9: on the market. 546 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 2: Jones joining us here on Fox Sports. Ready a last 547 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 2: one before we let you go. In less than a week, 548 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,239 Speaker 2: Black Monday comes a calling. If you could estimate how 549 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 2: many teams do you think could have vacancies after the 550 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 2: end of the regular season with their head coaching jobs? 551 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 9: Okay, well, we already know that the Giants and the Titans, 552 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 9: they're gonna have vacancy. 553 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 11: The Raiders might as well. 554 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 9: Okay, I wouldn't be surprised if Arizona is another one, 555 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 9: you know. 556 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 11: I know that they've had some injuries and the Kyler 557 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 11: Murray thing, you know. 558 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 9: But you know, so that's four right there. There's going 559 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 9: to be a surprise when somewhere. So I think five 560 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,479 Speaker 9: coaching vacancies feels about right. 561 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 2: Would Aaron Glenn be a surprise to you? 562 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 9: Supposedly he has supportive ownerships, and I think that for them, 563 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 9: they think about public perception. If they fired him after 564 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 9: just one year, then there's gonna be all these So 565 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 9: I think that they would probably be patient give him 566 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 9: at least one more year before they pulled the plug. 567 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 2: Okay, interesting, we shall see this Black Monday, now less 568 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 2: than a week away. Mike, We appreciate the time. Happy 569 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 2: new Year, love to talk football with you. You're welcome 570 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 2: back anytime. 571 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 11: Appreciate it all right, thanks for having me. Happy New 572 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 11: Year for you all. 573 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 2: Thanks Mike, Mike Jones the Athletic Find them at buy 574 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 2: Mike Jones on X. I think Monti thinks that's good news. 575 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 3: Yes, it looked bad. It was a scary moment. For 576 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 3: a second, I thought it was a non contact, but 577 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 3: then you saw his own team. It kind of did 578 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 3: get into him, and I think maybe he tried to 579 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 3: avoid it and then his knee just went away. It 580 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 3: wasn't supposed to, so I really thought it was going 581 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 3: to be like done for you know, not just four weeks. 582 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 3: So best case scenario, speaking of. 583 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 2: Don Philip Rivers done with the Colts, Riley Leonard's going 584 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 2: to get this start. What a run it was, truly 585 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 2: was we fan. We gave Philip Rivers quite the send 586 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 2: off last week, and he gave us bonus time. He 587 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 2: gave us one more go around, and it's all we 588 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 2: can ask not being Greedy. No, right, Yeah, we got 589 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 2: what we wanted. We got more than two. We got three. 590 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 2: We're just not going to get four. Jason Stewart, Yeah no. 591 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 6: And Ryan Berschinger put together a nice sendoff package, put 592 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 6: a lot of work into it. It ended up being 593 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 6: a little premature, But I do also want to think 594 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 6: that maybe he was listening to that segment and he said, 595 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 6: I need I'm not done. I'm not done. I'm not 596 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 6: going to end it with a pick six, I think 597 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 6: is what Bush added in the highlight package. 598 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 2: The Colts had a two to three percent chance of 599 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 2: making the playoffs entering their game against Jacksonville, and then 600 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 2: when the Texans went on Saturday, before they even took 601 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 2: the field, they were eliminated. So the catch for the 602 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 2: Colts was, you want to get a look at Riley Leonard, 603 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 2: but you've now prepped all week with Philip Rivers as 604 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 2: your starter. I'm happy when we gave Philip his sendoff. 605 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 2: I wouldn't have wanted to be I'd rather be early 606 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 2: rather than late on it. But I think we did 607 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 2: well with the cult signal caller and he added value, 608 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 2: and I know the game meant something to Jacksonville. So 609 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 2: there was something to it, but he added value into 610 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 2: what could have been a meaningless game and really made 611 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks pretty exciting. Like there's this 612 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 2: I feel everything in the NFL could be jaded by 613 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 2: your fantasy team, by your bets, by your rivalries, whatever 614 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 2: the case is. But he just brought good, wholesome fun 615 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 2: to the rodeo. 616 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 6: Our boss, Scott Shapiro, it seems like he goes to 617 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 6: a fantasy camp every year, right, is it the Twins? Yes, 618 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 6: And like the Philip Rivers thing was all of us 619 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 6: being able to see somebody in real time, like do 620 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 6: a fantasy camp, like just on TV, doing fantasy camp 621 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 6: at the highest level. It was pretty amazing. 622 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 2: It was a lot of fun. In Isaac's case yesterday, 623 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 2: something I agree with. I think this helps his Hall 624 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 2: of Fame candidacy. But the Riley Leonard era will at 625 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 2: least last one week as a starter. 626 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 4: Y Colt, you know that decision. 627 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 3: I know was in the slim hopes of still making 628 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 3: the playoffs, but I feel like that decision was really 629 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 3: big for the fans. Like you had such a good 630 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 3: start to the season and everything just kind of slipped 631 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 3: away from your fingers. 632 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 4: At least they that you know what I'm saying. 633 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 3: I know you brought him in because you thought there 634 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 3: was a fighting chance, but I have to believe that 635 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 3: you also brought him in to give something for the 636 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 3: fans in the final games of the season. You know 637 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like, because then you're gonna show up 638 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 3: and watch just your team get crushed. Like, at least 639 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 3: you get to watch Philip Rivers and maybe see some something. 640 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 2: The funny thing, I was here on Sunday when the 641 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 2: Colts were at the end of the game against the 642 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 2: Jaguars and then needed to throw up a hail Mary. 643 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 2: People around here were going nuts. They're like, you can't 644 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 2: even throw a hail Mary. Yeah, New Swash. He couldn't 645 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 2: five years ago. They took him out of the game 646 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 2: five years ago when he was in the league and 647 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 2: had Jacobe Brissett, I believe come in and end up 648 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 2: handling those duties. But Rivers couldn't do it then, couldn't 649 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 2: do it this past weekend, but nobody cares. 650 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio had the best sports talk lineup in 651 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports radio 652 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. 653 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 2: She's Monty Belano. So I'm Dan Byer. It is Fox 654 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 2: Sports Radio. Got some good nominee. We'll do it throughout 655 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 2: the show today over the next four hours. What's the 656 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 2: top story from the NFL in twenty twenty five. There's 657 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 2: a lot, Yeah, there are There's a lot because it 658 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 2: goes back to last year in the playoffs. 659 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 4: Right if you really think about it. 660 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, what happened through the draft, what happened in free agency? 661 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 2: A lot to get to. For over forty years, tirek 662 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 2: has been helping customers find the right tires for how, 663 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 2: what and where they drive. 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I should 677 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 2: be safe. You were not safe on ninety two point 678 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 2: nine in the game, and the Falcons radio network is 679 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 2: that was our tiract play of the day. Maybe it 680 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 2: should have been the non pass interference call but instead 681 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 2: being John's run or the incomplete mast hook in the 682 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 2: court too catch it. It was amazing. It was one 683 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 2: of those catches that you see with top and wide 684 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 2: receivers that you say, maybe maybe he made it. That 685 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 2: was one that was like, no way, he may have 686 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 2: caught the football, but no way did he actually keep 687 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 2: his feet and bounds or vice versa. And then it 688 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 2: was both, but you just had the bobble which made 689 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 2: it incomplete. Oh what could have been Rams Now the 690 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 2: sixth seed in the NFC playoff picture be awesome. When 691 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 2: you look at the twenty twenty five NFL calendar year, 692 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 2: of these last twelve months, a couple of stories pop out, 693 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 2: and what we're gonna do is we're gonna go over 694 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 2: these stories. One going to rise above the other two. 695 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 2: They're going to make it to our final, which is 696 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 2: going to be at the end of our show. So 697 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 2: we'll debate what we think of the three biggest stories. 698 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 2: But here's a couple I want to throw out there. 699 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 2: How about the Micah Parsons soaka, oh all of it? Yeah, absolutely, 700 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 2: a lot of Jaguars turnaround from dou ball to possibly 701 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 2: the number one overall seed. How about this twenty twenty 702 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 2: four quarterback draft class where it is just a mix 703 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 2: of who's in, who's out, who's on top, who's not, 704 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 2: who's the best, give me the worst. So you've got 705 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, Jade and Daniels, Drake May, Bonix nine nine nine, 706 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 2: Michael Pennox, Oh yeah, oh that's interesting. 707 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, because everything has kind of flipped upside down a 708 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 3: little bit. 709 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 2: I think that's Jason's process on it. So, you know, 710 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 2: I ping pong ball. 711 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 6: I care more about how things are covered than actually 712 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 6: just the actual sport, So I pay attention to this stuff. 713 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 6: If you took a poll among insiders or people that 714 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 6: covered the sport, they would have said Jaden Daniels would 715 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 6: have been the first overall pick. If they redrafted it, 716 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 6: say back in August, Jaden Daniels and then maybe Caleb 717 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 6: Williams now is Drake May at the top. Everyone knew 718 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 6: that you take Drake May at the top. He's the MVP, 719 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 6: of course, and Jayden Daniels is far down the list. 720 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 4: Almost an afterthought at this point. 721 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 2: It is funny when I think of Drake May, because 722 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,240 Speaker 2: all I think about was the story on how Bears 723 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 2: GM Ryan Poles was so dead set on taking Caleb Williams, 724 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:39,720 Speaker 2: which was fine because many people just were going along 725 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 2: for the ride that Caleb Williams should be the number 726 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,399 Speaker 2: one overall pick. And that's totally fine. Now, as an NFLGM, 727 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 2: I think you have to be different than everybody else 728 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 2: and be more open minded. No, he was like us, 729 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 2: he was putting, he was putting bad. Drake May plays 730 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 2: in films being like, yeah, this guy, this kid just 731 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 2: isn't it, He's not it all in a way to 732 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 2: make sure that they would draft Kleb william so he 733 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 2: didn't have to tear down other quarterbacks to do that. 734 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 2: Just take Caleb Williams, just say you like his stuff more, 735 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 2: and that's where you're going with But the rankings have changed. 736 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 2: Caleb Williams not a great rookie year. Now with Ben Johnson, 737 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 2: he may be right on the heels of one Drake 738 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 2: May and. 739 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 6: Then bo Nicks is just a he's just leading the 740 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 6: top AFC team right now. 741 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 2: He's the bo Nicks experience. It truly is. And nine 742 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 2: is nine, you know, That's all you can say about that. 743 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 3: And then the Falcons moving up, didn't they move up 744 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 3: to get Michael Pennock junior after giving Kirk Cousins a contract, 745 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 3: And now, yeah, a guy who has a history of injuries. 746 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 4: Oh he's hurt. 747 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 2: Yes, surprise, surprise, surprise. The Parsons thing to me is, 748 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 2: I think it's bigger than the other three because of 749 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 2: the negotiations in the spring, the standoff in the summer, 750 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 2: the eventual trade, and then what that trade did is 751 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 2: it forced the Cowboys to make other trades because Jerry 752 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 2: Jones felt that he needed to do something, would talk 753 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 2: about his ammunition and then gave some of it away 754 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 2: to bring in a guy like Quinn Williams. And then 755 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 2: Parsons ends up blowing out his knee likely signifying any 756 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 2: chance that Green Bay has to win the Super Bowl 757 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 2: in Super Bowl sixty. So you'd take the whole Micah 758 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 2: Parsons experience, that's the one that rises to the top 759 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 2: to me. I agree. 760 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 4: Is he still doing this podcast? 761 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 2: Do you have surgery today or yesterday? 762 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 4: But I feel like I hadn't seen it throughout the 763 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 4: season as he's been a packer. 764 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 6: I don't think he's doing his regular thing. 765 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 2: No, it's on hiatus. Oh that's interesting, Chris Isaac. Of 766 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 2: those three Jaggs turn around, Michael Parsons draft class, which 767 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 2: one do you think rises to the top. 768 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 10: Micah Parsons of those three, Yeah, Michah Parsons I think 769 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 10: flipped the entire calculus of how we view that division. 770 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 10: Although I will say we've come an extremely long way 771 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 10: from Week one Vikings and bears of that JJ McCarthy 772 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 10: come from behind victory and how Caleb looked and like 773 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:47,240 Speaker 10: it's a complete reverse. 774 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, loots from there. I'd give it a nine out 775 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 2: of ten for the performance in the fourth quarter for 776 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy. The other thing with Parsons, honestly, I think 777 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 2: we all just thought he was going to get paid, 778 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 2: that Jerry would give in, and then he didn't in 779 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:01,919 Speaker 2: the team that he sent him to in the deal 780 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 2: that he got all of that all right, So Michael 781 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 2: Parsons is going to advance to the next round. End 782 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 2: of the show, we'll see who that story will be 783 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 2: up again. She's Monze Belanios. I'm Dan Byer. What did 784 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,760 Speaker 2: you miss from week seventeen? Chargers fans, close your ears. 785 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:16,359 Speaker 2: That's next.