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Speaker 1: one source for drunk fast drinks Mother. Every day is

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Speaker 1: But since BIS started the song off everybody thought it

421
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 1: was BIS record, so promoters his booking bids like, you know, like, yeah,

422
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: he'll probably bring new dude with him. So I got

423
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 1: a song that they're playing on the Rappattack and on Alert,

424
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 1: but nobody's booking me. I'm home. Broke his hell, you know,

425
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 1: like I needed listen to my joint on the video

426
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 1: and then go walk their team blocks to go steal

427
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 1: Mrs pol Fish sticks because I ain't got nothing, you

428
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So that's how it was. And

429
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,679
Speaker 1: I'm begging fly Tie, you know rand Coach on records.

430
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: Can I do a song by myself? Can I just

431
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 1: do something with just me? He like, it's not time.

432
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 1: You need to let this record marinade for a while.

433
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 1: You do. Then finally, I guess he gets tired of

434
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: me getting on his nerves and I went in like

435
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: Morley was. I was like, yeah, um, my man just

436
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: gave me to see him this Bobby Bird joint and

437
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: I found these Bobby Bird I was about to say, okay,

438
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 1: that's to all the drums. I'm like, yeah, my man

439
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: just gave me to see a Bobby Bird joint and

440
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: I found these here crazy horns from off the Black

441
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: season soundtrack, you know, and you know we we put

442
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 1: the joint together and that was that. Yeah, oh I

443
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: get my notes. They don't want to make great. I

444
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 1: don't want to make great right now, you got me

445
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,360
Speaker 1: like the goose bumps and all that. This is real

446
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: ship man all right. So so not a juice crew

447
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 1: because we just you just touched on the juice crew

448
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 1: like me, right now, let's get even deeper. That's symphony session.

449
00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: How did that? Like? How did that go down? There

450
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: was um the night I did raw. I took G

451
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: after the studio with me and how did know rap?

452
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,360
Speaker 1: I just can't say just juico. I just met through

453
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: juic school because it was like the well shure I

454
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 1: believe you may have had demo, yeah, but it was

455
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 1: like we was the two Yeah, we were the two

456
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: lyrical dudes and the crew waiting to get our shine

457
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: because everybody else was popping accept us you did, so

458
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,239
Speaker 1: we're waiting to really get our shine. Ain't looking at

459
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: you like the two lyrical dudes? Is that's the way

460
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: y'all being looked at the time? Also that record correct

461
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: G and master as correct. Okay, So it's like you know,

462
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 1: when I had did raw, Molly brought the beat back

463
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: and me and G just did a little free style

464
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: off of it and Molly played it and a lot

465
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 1: of people was demanded like Yo played the Royal version

466
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: with Kane n G on it, you know, So Molly

467
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: was wait time out, Sorry you said it was just

468
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,679
Speaker 1: first you and G on symphony. Yeah, well, because like

469
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: basically we round the off off the beat together and

470
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: Molly played it after Roll came out, so people were

471
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: requesting it thinking it was a remix. Molly played it

472
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 1: for a while, but then he stashed it and was like, Yo,

473
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: look I need you and to do the same thing

474
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: but for my album. So it's really just be a

475
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: song with me and J. Then eventually, I guess when

476
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: Marley is making the track of something, Craig heard it

477
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: and I guess told Marty he wanted in, and Marlly

478
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: came to me and I was like, you know, well,

479
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: you know, uh, you know, I like that duck ller

480
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: ship and you know, yeah, Craig my due. Yeah, absolutely,

481
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: So then it was me, G and Craig. But then

482
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 1: the day we was filming the pictures for molly album cover,

483
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: after we got through, we went to morlly crib right

484
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: after the photo session, and he was like, you know,

485
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: this is my new artist, Master Ace, and um, you

486
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: know what we wanted. Yeah yeah, He's like, you want

487
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: to put him on the song. And I'm like, you know,

488
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 1: looking at Ace, you know, I mean, I love Ace,

489
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: but like Aces with these big glasses. Right, So me

490
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: and g like we're sitting there like he wasn't convinced, yo, Like, dude, nah,

491
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, let's let's say we're gonna get some

492
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: pizza and get the fun up out of that was

493
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: the plan. But I guess we took you long, and

494
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 1: a got a chance to start spitting. And when he

495
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: killed it, he said its verse. You know, I was like, yo,

496
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: Glass is kind of nice, man, like I'm kind of feeling.

497
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: So then then um, afterwards, um, Craig spit his verse,

498
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,239
Speaker 1: you know, and then g came over and you know,

499
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: we were that that g rap list. You know, Glasses

500
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: first made me a little bit done, un crazed, you know,

501
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: so it was like, you know, we was like, yeah, yeah,

502
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: we we were messing with dude. We we we we didn't due. Yeah,

503
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: let's do this. So we did it. And then but

504
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: then g rap went and he said like, I don't

505
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: know what it is. This is like, maybe you can

506
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: tell me. It's just like a queen's thing, because like

507
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: he had like about a hundred and fifty bars. Man,

508
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: this was yeah, you know, and dude ran the real

509
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: or no, I'm serious, I'm gonna he ran the real

510
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: or so I'm like, so I'm not going there, you know.

511
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, so you had to cut his rhyme. Um,

512
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 1: you know, just so I can even flip my verse

513
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: on what was the problem with you rock him? What?

514
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: What was it was? It was a you know, honestly

515
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: to this day, I would love to know, you know,

516
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I never I never had a

517
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: problem you know with Rock Kim And you know, me

518
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: and Eric B was like this. You know, when I

519
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: bought my first house, Eric B had a set of

520
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: keys um before I did because I was in l

521
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: A filming something. You know. So, I mean me and

522
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: Eric was cool. Um. I guess the type of thing

523
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: where people just wanted to know who was better, so

524
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: they would push to try to get to compare. You

525
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: got styles together, like because y'all go flaid back and lyrical.

526
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: I think it's really a lyrical thing. Like I think

527
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: Kane is lyrical. I think rides lyrical. But who's better?

528
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: You know that type of thing, you know, a competitive

529
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: thing you know which is which to me is hip hop?

530
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: You know, so you know I can understand and wanting

531
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: to see that. Do you do you do you when

532
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: you see like meat mal And and Drake going at it?

533
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: What do you say? What do you think of things

534
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: like that? I mean, I mean, it's my thing is

535
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: like this said. You keep it on record, it's hip hop.

536
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: You know, you take it off record now you turn

537
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: it into a contact sport. You know, Um, they can't

538
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: never have to slay somebody on the mic. Oh yeah, yeah,

539
00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: you have to slay King. Let's let's throw it out

540
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: there on the micro or of the mic the mic, baby,

541
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: come on, well, Sime of the context. I battled, you

542
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: know that was my thing battling. So I mean there's

543
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of rappers out battle. I mean, is

544
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: that your question? You asking me like like somebody know

545
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: I'm talking my own wax? Who did you slow? Oh

546
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: Na not? No, I never had you did? You did

547
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,479
Speaker 1: not have time for that? Nobody wanted me, I mean

548
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:35,479
Speaker 1: nobody wanted it. So now now now the slick rick thing.

549
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: Who broke this up? Was this APM D? Who was

550
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: it it was? I think it was was ep MD

551
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: or jermainely Free. It was one of them. They said,

552
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: slick of the bus thing, Yeah, the bus that y'all

553
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: have beef and slicker pull out a gunna trying to

554
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: shoot you. Is this truth? I would saying, yeah, my

555
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: arrows man, So I got I just gotta acted straight up.

556
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: It made me a little truth. But how did y'all listen?

557
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: This is a crazy thing. Listen right right now. If

558
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: a little um, you know, Curly had and uncle such

559
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: as such, half beef, we all know about it. But

560
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: back then we didn't have Instagram, we didn't have Twitter,

561
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: so it was an all word of mouth. So when

562
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: I'm hearing this and and I forget who called me,

563
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: and it was like, man, yeah, it's it's an EPND episode.

564
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: And it was like, yeah, you missed a whole bunch

565
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: of things like and I was like word, and I

566
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: had never I had never knew that. I had never

567
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: heard you go ask liquick, nobody that, nobody. Just keep

568
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: it clear. So back in the days, y'all have BEEP,

569
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: but it was not on the record. Yea, yeah it was.

570
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: It was some little mile stuff, you know, yeah, it

571
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: was more or less. I guess about the tour issue

572
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: about the tour, the l Nitro tour, you know that

573
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: was No, it's nothing because it's you know what was

574
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: the problem over? Who was the problem over? Like um

575
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: the problems over the same thing um that epm D

576
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: was talking about when when y'all had him here about

577
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: the order of the show. Oh yeah, because he was down. Yeah,

578
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: I see, I'll tell you something about king. I know

579
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: I'm telling the subject. But nikkas don't want to go

580
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: on at the kids side. Nikkas don't want to come

581
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: on at that ain't no half step, but I mean

582
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: they don't want to come on and all. Honestly, let's

583
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: just say this, yere slick Rick had an amazing show

584
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: and also he had the club bands, Mona, Lisa, Children's Stories.

585
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: He had an amazing show and E P m D.

586
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,479
Speaker 1: I mean it was like the energy they brought on

587
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: stage was phenomenal, you know what I'm saying. I mean,

588
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: like these dudes just had like crazy energy, you know

589
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: what I said For them to like not be doing

590
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: a lot of movement, you know, they had they both

591
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: the coming to town from school show. He's turning around,

592
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: You're hit You're doing all like, hey, you give him

593
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: a y'all. No, no, no, but I mean, you know,

594
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 1: I mean I came from a different perspective. I think

595
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: me and you had this conversation over in London before,

596
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: Like I was saying, like, um, I'll tell you that.

597
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: I like, you know, Dougie Fresh came to one of

598
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 1: my shows and you know, he saw me perform and

599
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: like we smashed it. This is at the World down

600
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: to downtown. Were just showing Douggie saw me smash it,

601
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,919
Speaker 1: And I'm asking him what you think? You know, doug

602
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: is you know he's you know, you know, I mean,

603
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: you're no revils, Like you know what you know? I thought,

604
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: did you hut up? And you know yeah, But I

605
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: mean now, but it's like after I know I just

606
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: rocked it, I'm in my mind, I'm like, you know,

607
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: old school ass nigga just hate it. That's that's that's

608
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: what's up. That that's what's up. But then he it's like, yo,

609
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 1: won't you come by the crib, you know, let me

610
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: show you something. So we go by, you know, his

611
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: crib and he pulled out these on and back. I

612
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: think might have been Beta Max. I'm not even sure

613
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: what he was rocking then, but videos of earth Wind

614
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: and Fire, Michael Jackson, Pink Floyd. You know, he's you know,

615
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: he's showed me what he studied and explaining how he

616
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: you know, transformed that into hip hop, you know, to

617
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: make him work at a hip hop show. And I'm like,

618
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: m So that next morning I woke up and brought

619
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: me uh James Brown video, Marvin Gaye uh, and Barby White.

620
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: Those are the first three up. I think this is

621
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: before VHS and you know, um yeah, and I start,

622
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: you know, um studying them and figuring out different things

623
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: to do on stage. So you see, my mindset wasn't

624
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: about how to make the dope hip hop show. My

625
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: mindset was about how to make a dope show and

626
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: make hip hop accepted. Um, I got I got another

627
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,919
Speaker 1: question to ask? Who's flat top? Would and eighty nine

628
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: come on? Come on board? Okay, okay, you know, let

629
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Speaker 1: me take you so how much used to pay your barber?

630
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Speaker 1: Because he had your ship? Right? Your ship was? It was?

631
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Speaker 1: It was? It was how you calling this spatness perfecto? Well,

632
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Speaker 1: you know it was like, you know, I had a barber.

633
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Speaker 1: But then also school was nice with the clippers too,

634
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Speaker 1: So before we go on stage, I can always get

635
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Speaker 1: you know, you know what I mean. Then you had

636
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Speaker 1: to you have a flattop back then come on, man,

637
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: I had a flattop, but she didn't come out. I

638
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: was like my she was not like hand my ship

639
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Speaker 1: go through. I think I invented the gun because my

640
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: barber was just so fun up. You had had a

641
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: gun too. I had that I had. I had a

642
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: qual mape over that everything. I was a very hip

643
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: hootka you know. So you think you put back it

644
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: down a little flats out. I think, um, I think

645
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: I may have made it popular by talking about it,

646
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: you know, because I mean it was something that, um

647
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 1: that I asked for from seeing Larry Blackman from Cameo.

648
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: So I wasn't the first to have it, you know,

649
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: and Kid from Kid and Play his joint was always

650
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: bad my ultimate, you know. But I think it was

651
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: just a matter of me always talking about it, you

652
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like really putting a brand to it,

653
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. No, but you were like

654
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: the hood. Uh let me, let me say this. You

655
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Speaker 1: were like the hood, like you represented the hood. Like

656
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Speaker 1: when you were doing it right, people from the Hood

657
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: followed what you did. So that's what I'm saying, like

658
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Speaker 1: that the Hood controls the world. So we didn't we

659
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: didn't see the flats out from Cameo. Do you think

660
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Speaker 1: you don't? You don't think you just for the generation

661
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: you're talking about, for that generation, Yeah, I didn't watch

662
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: Cameo on them. It's like not really like that. They

663
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Speaker 1: you y'all was my camp. I got you, you know.

664
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Speaker 1: So now, when was your experience like working with Cold

665
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Speaker 1: Chilling in those days? The Cold Chilling was like it

666
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: was damn there, like depth like Death Row or whatever.

667
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: Like you guys was like the first like hood label

668
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 1: that it was. It was ran by the Hood people.

669
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Speaker 1: So how was that experience? I mean it was beautiful.

670
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Deaf Jam without a doubt is

671
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Speaker 1: um you know, like probably the greatest hip hop label ever.

672
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: But Cold Chilling was unique because the artist was a crew,

673
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: you see what I'm saying. Definitely, I had a bunch

674
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: of pop artists. Cold Chilling had the Juice crew. The

675
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: artists were a crew. You see what I'm saying. And

676
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: it operated that way and with each one giving off.

677
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: You know, they're different, you know, forms of artistry. Dog

678
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,240
Speaker 1: like um. You know you had me on the lyrical

679
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: stuff and the smooth players stuff, had g rap on

680
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: the gangster stuff. This is on the comedies, Shante on

681
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 1: the sassy mouth disrespecting every prose. You know, Shan is

682
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 1: the wild child on the Wild Cowboy. You know. Yeah,

683
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,280
Speaker 1: it was like that Craig g you know, the baby

684
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Speaker 1: come up dude, you know, and only y'all was a

685
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: single artists and then became the Juice creup correct as

686
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: opposed to like Wu tang Wu tank was. Now we

687
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: were brought in as a like you know, as a

688
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 1: member of the Juice cool you know, because I mean

689
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: you know this was you know, the juice creul is

690
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: is you know, making a mistake. This is Mr the

691
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: Magic Thing. You know. It wasn't Shan or Shante thing.

692
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: It wasn't Molly or fly Ty thing. This is Mr

693
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: the Magic Thing. You know. So I mean I think

694
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: people like Shante Isn't will forever be you know, the

695
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: Queen of the Juice Crew, the one she is the

696
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: one who made it popular because she was wax school

697
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: as sister Fastine. Okay, yeah, but yeah, she's want to

698
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: put it on wax, you know what I'm saying, where

699
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: we all could eat and make money off of it.

700
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, like like really a

701
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: rapid like she would make the Juice Crew blood. So

702
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: Seant forever be the Queen of the Juice Crew. But

703
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,280
Speaker 1: prior to Seante and a lot of people don't notice,

704
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,960
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705
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: um Uh, Mellie mel waterbed keV. These are all members

706
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: of the Juice Crew that was before her. You know

707
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because this was Magic Crew, but David

708
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,280
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709
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: You know, Seante started a whole new chapter of the

710
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: Juice Crew as artists, hold on, let me let me

711
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Speaker 1: You got you got Madonna on this list? Yeah, I

777
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Speaker 1: got my dog God damn, yeah, you gotta go that.

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779
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Speaker 1: got pictures? Is that Madonna and Naomi camp For real?

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Speaker 1: What do the legs spread? Ari? You want to put

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Speaker 1: them on? I mean that's how I knew. Just tell

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Speaker 1: us what a job? How did you end up? What?

783
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Speaker 1: We know how it ended up? But you ended up

784
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Speaker 1: in her book. The photo shoot. Let's let's go. What

785
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Speaker 1: was the photo shoot? Like brother, that was Madonna and

786
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Speaker 1: Naomi Campbell? Got damn? I mean the photo shoot was fun,

787
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? God, oh my god, hold on,

788
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Speaker 1: hold on everybody see that for people on votes TV.

789
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Speaker 1: Hold on, I got one more somewhere. I think you're

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Speaker 1: done that post, Yes, can't come by now. The photo

791
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: shoot was live. I mean, you know it's like you know,

792
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: music playing food out and stuff. Now. That was for

793
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: her book, her book called sex. So it was for

794
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: her book. Yeah, oh Madonna, Yeah, it was a Madonna.

795
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: You're the first thing of the knockdown Madonna give me five.

796
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 1: Let me listen, okay, listen, No he got no no no.

797
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: Me and Madonna never had sex. We just took never, no, no, no.

798
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: We just took nude photos. That's what I think I remember. Yeah,

799
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Speaker 1: because you looked out a lot of things can't for

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Speaker 1: them too, not on the list. I mean, you know,

801
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: and I mean, don't get me wrong. Madonna. You know,

802
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: she's a beautiful young lady. And more importantly, she was

803
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 1: mad cool because you see the way we met, that's

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00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: what the whole because we met under different circumstances. You know,

805
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: this wasn't about sexy, you know, freaky stuff. You know,

806
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: like the way we met was uh me, Madonna calling

807
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 1: me bad was visiting hospitals. Yeah, so so you see

808
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: where this is going. So we visited in hospitals kids

809
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: like this, you know, sick in hospital, gonna take pictures

810
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Speaker 1: with him, to sign autographs, and you know, these hospitals

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Speaker 1: are like going you know, on the east side of

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Speaker 1: man hat and stuff like this. While we did, you know,

813
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Speaker 1: they knew who Madonna was. They knew who calling me

814
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Speaker 1: bad was. You know a lot of kids in hospital

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Speaker 1: they didn't really know exactly who I was, you know,

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Speaker 1: because this was like you know, you know, upper class

817
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Speaker 1: you know, white children, you know, and Madonna is sitting

818
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Speaker 1: there like, you know, big daddy can't say how the

819
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Speaker 1: big Daddy came. He's a famous rapper. Let me say, hey, no,

820
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Speaker 1: and I'm liken my ship. You know, you know, like

821
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Speaker 1: like yeah, that was one of the movements for me.

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Speaker 1: Do you think pop? Clearly this is just killing. Can

823
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Speaker 1: you see I didn't dispute dead Somber clearly his speakers

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Speaker 1: is one of my mama A lot of like that.

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Speaker 1: That's not me's idea. You please speaking. Let's keep it real, Kaine.

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Speaker 1: Did you smell its? Come on, we all smell it.

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Speaker 1: You didn't smell Let your hands right now. It's my diagrams.

828
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Speaker 1: Get two things? What they're doing with that? Let me

829
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Speaker 1: just tell you something. You listen, you got two of

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Speaker 1: the baddest woman arguably for two of the best of

831
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Speaker 1: the both worlds. I would have wore speed on to

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Speaker 1: my brother I'm gonna because he definitely got the speed

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Speaker 1: on Leopard Crypt and all that. That's my nigger. What

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Speaker 1: are you thinking, little Love the sneak? Don't you shot shot?

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Speaker 1: It's more like, you know you gotta wear with it

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Speaker 1: tell yourself game. They listen. We all looked up to

838
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 1: you in the hood and we was like, damn, like

839
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,720
Speaker 1: in all mine I don't know you said you didn't,

840
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: but in our minds just like, yeah, you could bow off,

841
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: you could rap and you can fuck which bite bitches.

842
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: This is this is who we don't In the one,

843
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: it was like, oh ship, but daddy came and just

844
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,919
Speaker 1: cut our eyebrows. So then we started kind of hops

845
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: again this person again. Literally, okay, let me tell you

846
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: how much how much your eric's that? Never again? What?

847
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 1: Never again? Whatever? Never again? Because how much old little

848
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: took my dog? Okay here, look look, because they told

849
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: me you don't drink champagne or you don't drink it,

850
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 1: but I just wanted to give you a bottle dog

851
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 1: harry On for me. Tell you tell you know, I

852
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: appreciate it because in my mind I thought it was

853
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: gonna drink champagne because I just be looking at what

854
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: was the ain't a half stepping when you're in the ring.

855
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: You're in the ring, and I'm just in my mind

856
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: when they fed the water it was champagne. Well I'm

857
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: meaning for the money in the record, I do drink champagne.

858
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: It's your shot. I prefer wine, but I did drink champage. Okay,

859
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: all right, cool, Well you know listen, can I just

860
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 1: gotta throw this out there, every guest that we ever

861
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: had did a shot of something, right, so you would

862
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: you would would you like to Joe walk shot one

863
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: shot or something? This is what I recommend. This is

864
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: called tanger but semi herbal. It's semi herbal. This is

865
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: no sugar, just in case I don't know it's the

866
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 1: right way to sell that. So I'm just saying, like

867
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: you know, some people, we worry about their sugar level.

868
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: This is it's a Chinese herb's we've been saying, and

869
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: a lot of something else. If you take come on,

870
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: come on, come on, you yes you do, Let's do it.

871
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: This is a big daddy came. He'd been hyping all

872
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: fucking week. Oh now we've been home, both been hype

873
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:25,919
Speaker 1: because you know, Kane, there's no outlet for us. You hold, hold,

874
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 1: you get the size of these fu shocklas. Come on,

875
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: we don't come on. We gotta gotta yeah. Yeah, there

876
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: we go. There we go, there we go, there we go. Okay, alright,

877
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: get one. So still Cane. You know when we me

878
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: and my partner we sat here and we said, you know,

879
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: we had had a radio show prior to that, but

880
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: on this radio show we were just playing around, just bullshit.

881
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: But we just sat sat back and said, there isn't

882
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 1: an outlet for our people are older statesmen, people who

883
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: put it in this work, people who did what they

884
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 1: had to do and to sit down and be saluted.

885
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 1: So we want you to know that this is what

886
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: we're doing tonight. Big Addie came. First off, you raised me.

887
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 1: In case you didn't know it or not, you raised me.

888
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,399
Speaker 1: I'm sure you raised half of these motherfucker's in their room.

889
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: And if you didn't raise these guys in your room,

890
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: their parents fuck to your music. And that's why they're

891
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 1: here right now. So you raised them in differently and definitely,

892
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: So I un directly, indirect indirectly, because I just want

893
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: to say, big Daddy came, You should be saluted every

894
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: day or the motherfucking yeah, you're a virgo. We're gonna

895
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: get into that later. It's a timer temp correct. That

896
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 1: day should be big Daddy came, fucking holiday. Just do

897
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 1: whatever the funk you want to do on that day.

898
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: She'd be able to piss on your boss feet and

899
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: just and just come to fucking work and just do

900
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: whatever the funk you gotta do. But I don't know

901
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: if you know this is how we do it oky,

902
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: This is out of this tiger bone, this is drink chance,

903
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: motherfucking ship. And this is how big Daddy came. Oh you,

904
00:52:55,880 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: it's not good at all they got, but it's smooth,

905
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 1: or it's smooth. Of course he would say, no can

906
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 1: I'm growing up, I'm following you. I'm a kid. How

907
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: do I become a smooth operator? You know? Lots of

908
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: times I talked to the youth about their career, and

909
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,720
Speaker 1: it's like I always try to tell casts, you know that,

910
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: you know, you got to give your fans you You

911
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: cannot follow the trend, you know, because trends come and go.

912
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 1: So when that trend is gone, you're gone because you

913
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 1: was a part of it. There was nothing special about you.

914
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: There was nothing special that made them. You know, try

915
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: to dissocial dissociate you from whatever the hell else what's

916
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: going on. You have to be somebody that you need,

917
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 1: give them something original, something when they would they gravitate

918
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: to what you do, what you represent? You know what

919
00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: I'm saying, That's something I've always thought was important and

920
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: in an artist, you know, I mean you you you

921
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 1: got to give them something special, you know, And I

922
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: mean all honestly, I feel like you've done that. You know,

923
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: I think I don't think you know that you will

924
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: cut out to be the smooth dude. You will cut

925
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: out to be what you are, and you wear it well,

926
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 1: wear it well. Thank you. You know what I'm saying.

927
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: Makes some lows to me, can't make some to me.

928
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 1: You'll you'll twin you over here. You listen, you you wait,

929
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: your twin, you come in. Look listen. I'm sure you

930
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:39,240
Speaker 1: was made up a big Daddy Kane record your average.

931
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 1: This is how you got it. This is my man twin.

932
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:45,439
Speaker 1: He had a pace accident, but he's good not fail.

933
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 1: Excuse me, sorry, damn big daddy kid. God, damn it,

934
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: some loved kid. But he got us. He got us

935
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: popping dog Verry on twin, He got us popping dog

936
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 1: Verry Honest. Yeah, he come to the glass. And that's

937
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,399
Speaker 1: about it. You want to get one if you're gonna

938
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 1: keep your move. It sounded about hold on, take a

939
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:07,720
Speaker 1: second shot, take a shot of advanced that. No, But seriously,

940
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: I don't know who, like who really like to go

941
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,439
Speaker 1: to movies and like really focus on scenes that deep.

942
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, when I was watching paydon Full,

943
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: I'm watching a lot of the people that had little

944
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: cameos and little spots in there, and I mean, like, yo,

945
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: that scene with you, Yo, I mean you made it

946
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 1: all up. Yeah, But the whole thing is that you

947
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 1: stayed focused and you made your presence felt. You know

948
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You didn't just fall back and just

949
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: be a part of the script. You made your presence felt.

950
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 1: You know, you came across from camera great man, like, yeah,

951
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: I do love to see more ship like that. Man. Now,

952
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: speaking to movies, you did the Posse movie, how was

953
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 1: that experience, because that was like that was that was

954
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 1: like when we knew we thought like Dan Kane never

955
00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: coming back because I was like, was also looking like

956
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: her coming back like the I mean, I'm gonna be

957
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 1: honest with you. It's like, you know, I enjoy doing it.

958
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: It was the type of work that I wanted to

959
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 1: do because I didn't want to be on the big

960
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: screen being a rapper or being a thug because I mean,

961
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: you know, you don't see me do that in a video,

962
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: you know. You know, it's like that's the music life.

963
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. If we act and then

964
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: let's act, saying, let me let me do something out

965
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 1: of yourself. Are like, yeah, so having to you know,

966
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: speaking you know, in a period voice and you know

967
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: ride horses. You know, I mean I thought that that

968
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 1: was beautiful and I mean I I enjoyed that opportunity

969
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: big on much respects to Mario Van people forgiving me shot.

970
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But I tell you one

971
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: thing though, that ship was a culture shock like never before.

972
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 1: What you mean by that, I mean the set, the

973
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: set life like you know, I mean, were you um

974
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 1: okay whoa queen? Yeah? Yeah, so just like Brooklyn. You know,

975
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,280
Speaker 1: what we see on day to day basis is cat, rat,

976
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 1: dog we come out of. That's wildlife for us. You

977
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You know, you see a cat

978
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: and a dog in the daytime, the nighttime, you see

979
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: the vest come out. That's what we see. You know

980
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I will mention to the roaches. That's

981
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:30,959
Speaker 1: really you know the extent of brother. I'm out there

982
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: nesting with tarantulas, scorpions. What y'a film is at Tucson, Arizona.

983
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: That's her movie and Tucson, Arizona. It's turrible. I get

984
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: my head cut off a fucking I die. I'm the

985
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 1: black guy back out blast like, yo, I'm timidus, I'm

986
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 1: out of the movie. IM sorry, I can't. Yeah, but

987
00:57:56,360 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: that's crazy with peckers snakes. Bro. Let me tell you something.

988
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: Somebody asked you one time, like, yeah, I dude calling

989
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 1: on my door every morning five am and my dumbass

990
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: getting to open it up there and somebody knocked. Real talk,

991
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 1: what pecker on schedule every morning? Real talk? No real talk.

992
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. Somebody asked me one time

993
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: about you know, like yo, why you never make like no, no, no,

994
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: no gangster ship man. And I was like, you know,

995
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 1: because I mean I used the films they took him out. No,

996
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 1: they took me to gangster records. I never you know,

997
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: I never did know, you know, gangster ship. You know.

998
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: I mean I spit hard. It was not no, no,

999
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 1: I hardcore but not gangster. But I mean, you know,

1000
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 1: I explained to myself, well, for one reason, there's um p,

1001
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: a girl that worked on the policy set that pull

1002
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,479
Speaker 1: my card real easy. And let anybody know, there ain't

1003
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: nothing that that should ain't true. Because when we was

1004
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: filming one day, we're coming off set. My dude, like

1005
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: the people they're over there, like telling us to go

1006
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: like this, to walk another way. They're whispering, and I can't.

1007
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: You know, I couldn't have said what they're saying. This

1008
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 1: is going on for a few minutes. Long story short,

1009
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: I couldn't take it. The more. I'm just like, yo,

1010
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 1: what they said, rattler. So I just took flight, like

1011
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: now now listen, I'm running, but I'm a man, feeling mother,

1012
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 1: but I'm a man. I got here's where they got funking.

1013
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 1: The pie girl caught up with me and grabbed my

1014
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 1: vesh like you know, savor, and I mean, you know

1015
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 1: my dude, you know yo, I mean I remember being

1016
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: at a party in Brooklyn where I took a chicken

1017
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 1: through hunter speaker while they're shooting inside of the club

1018
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: and I'm standing out. You know what I'm saying. I mean,

1019
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 1: you know the gun that that stuff don't bother me.

1020
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 1: You know a different thing. She grabbed my ris. I

1021
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: started punching that shut up down. You know, said she's

1022
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: showing me down. So I started punching shut out of

1023
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 1: her hand. You don't get it, because so yeah, I

1024
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 1: make the gangs and stuff for we got now because

1025
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: we heard stories that you've been were like like like

1026
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 1: Supreme Magnetic, the UM supporter, Weekends, Brain from Brooklyn, that's

1027
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 1: my dude. Yeah, So we always heard those stories, so

1028
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: we always automatically thought it was it was just you.

1029
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 1: That's not he's saying. That's not never at all have

1030
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 1: the videos. I was convinced, can't you can't take it?

1031
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 1: Take it back now. I'm a nice guy. I'm a

1032
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 1: nice guy. You know, I'm a nice guy. To drink

1033
01:00:55,040 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 1: red wine, fingerpop, my dada, let's make some drink Champs Army.

1034
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,960
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1035
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Speaker 1: and one of those companies that has been supporting us

1036
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1037
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1038
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1039
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Speaker 1: not gonna lie. That's hard. I think we're gonna blow

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Speaker 1: that picture up and put it right here in the store.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie put it in my house. I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna lie. I said, you know, we interviewing Kane,

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Speaker 1: Like fifty thousand just came through, and then it was

1084
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Speaker 1: like I was debating, and I was like, that's not Madonna.

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Speaker 1: But I thought you and Madonna had did a separate

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Speaker 1: photos shop. I didn't know Campbell's in it, not only Campbell?

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Speaker 1: So how did you not get hard in the photo

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Speaker 1: shoot like I would have got? You know, I'm just saying.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying you was it was he was already

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Speaker 1: Like I mean, you know, it's like, you know, at

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Speaker 1: a certain point in your life, you just get an

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Speaker 1: understanding about certain things and you just, I guess to

1093
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 1: look at life differently because she got leg straight over

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Speaker 1: the other one right now, all the professor ship like,

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Speaker 1: holy molily, I'm just keeping it real, okay, all right,

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Speaker 1: Well I'm gonna keep it real. I mean, it's like this.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm a Madonna fan. You know what I'm saying.

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01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 1: You know, borderline physical attraction, all them joints. You know.

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Speaker 1: I've been, you know, rocking and watching the videos on

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Speaker 1: Friday night videos, you know. And she's a very attractive

1101
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 1: young lady, you know. And you know your Naomi Campbell,

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01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 1: you know she's fine too. But I mean, you know,

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01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 1: at certain point in your life, after you don't did

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01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 1: so much, you know, and you know, you know, your

1105
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 1: mentality get a certain way. You know, sometimes you just

1106
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 1: come to the realization that you know, the best pussy

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Speaker 1: you ever had is the pussy you never had, And

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Speaker 1: it's so much more fun just thinking about it. That's

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Speaker 1: that's ship. He gave me another season just now that

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01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 1: it was so over my head and sharp d you

1111
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean, let me bring it down to you.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever in your life bag the fine check

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Speaker 1: that was? I mean, built amazing, got it back to

1114
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Speaker 1: the hotel Dodo bird? Yeah, whack. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: Just whack Dodo bird, you know, like giving you them

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Speaker 1: crazy psychotic looks or or can't do doggy style or

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01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 1: you know, just just just everything just going wrong. You

1118
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, You say, just don't ruin it. No, no, no,

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01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 1: What I'm trying to say is that. But it's more

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Speaker 1: exciting when you think I'm saying don't ruin it, but

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Speaker 1: by trying to bag it. Oh yeah yeah, okay, yeah,

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01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 1: exactly what's your illness? Groopie story? Can the abituate outside

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Speaker 1: your door with milk? For some reason, I just feel

1124
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 1: like chickens outside you're doing inside like Poony Tang. You

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Speaker 1: never seen that because Kane Cane he was that. I guess, my, my, my,

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Speaker 1: illest one would probably be um um uh, let me see,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, probably the LLL tour, the same one the

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Speaker 1: night to Dilick. Yeah, the Nitro tour. He gives out flowers, roses,

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01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 1: the pitches. He's cheating. You know, I'm saying, if you

1130
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 1: ain't giving out roads, you're coming after that business like

1131
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 1: let the no, no, no, that's that's for your game.

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01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 1: I mean that might have been what what what messed

1133
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 1: me up that night? Who knows? All right, just talk

1134
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 1: about the game. I mean no, because I mean it

1135
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 1: was like Russell Simmons actually introduced me to this check

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Speaker 1: and you know, she was claim came back to the

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Speaker 1: hotel and me and Russell and I think by some

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Speaker 1: Andre Horrel, I believe it just about a bar and

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Speaker 1: she came in and l L was over. They sign

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Speaker 1: and autographs and she went to L. No, I'm not

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01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 1: telling this story. Two listeners want to have to listen,

1142
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 1: and they all in this room. Don't worry about it.

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Speaker 1: Everybody unreleased it. Everybody. She went to L you know,

1144
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 1: not seeing them they're chopping it up or too late

1145
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 1: now and then they chopping it up and whatever, and

1146
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 1: like I see, like pitch her cheek or something like that,

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01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 1: and then she walked over to the bar to me.

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01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 1: Now my problem with that was my problem was that

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01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 1: it's like this here, you sposed to come meet me

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01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 1: at the room. So after L shot you down, you

1151
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 1: spoke to the elevator when you come to the bar.

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01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 1: That lets me know that you saw me all this

1153
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:25,440
Speaker 1: goddamn time. That's you know what I'm saying, and just

1154
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 1: just choosing in front of me, you know. Okay, So

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01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:30,720
Speaker 1: it's like all right, cool, So we get upstairs, you know,

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01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 1: we get a popping and you know, I'm into what

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01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:39,559
Speaker 1: I'm doing, and you know, I mean it turned into

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01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 1: you know, one of the type of things where you know,

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Speaker 1: I you know, I'm shorty to get my r kelly on,

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01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 1: you know, and let's go, let's go. I mean, it

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01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 1: just felt good you had to go. I got a

1162
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 1: pee right now. So I don't know how you done

1163
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 1: about it. I think it's the only it's blazed for

1164
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 1: the hardy just makes a noise. I'm sorry she liked it,

1165
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 1: you know. I mean it's like, you know, when I

1166
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 1: was young man, I did a whole bunch of wild stuff, man,

1167
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 1: crazy stuff. No, you know, I mean like I mean

1168
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,559
Speaker 1: disneyn situations where like several people, I had to go

1169
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 1: back and you know I had to it just felt

1170
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 1: just wanted to you, and I went back and I

1171
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 1: apologize for a lot of crazy stuff I did, you know,

1172
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 1: because you know, I'm I'm forty nine. Now I'm married,

1173
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:45,600
Speaker 1: you know, and I mean I love my life, I

1174
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 1: love my family, and you know, it's like, you know,

1175
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 1: I just look at things differently now that you know me.

1176
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 1: You know, back then, you know I was down. Yeah,

1177
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 1: I was a little bligger. You was the man in

1178
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 1: eighty eight. I was born in seventy seven. That means

1179
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 1: like roughly like I was nine, unch him. I was

1180
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 1: gonna rop with me day. Yeah, I've seen you said,

1181
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 1: damn he had the four finger, Wayne, the fourth finger?

1182
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 1: How do you fingerpot with four finger? Back? An expensive?

1183
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 1: It was something good finger pop and was like like

1184
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 1: in style back then, like niggers didn't even want to

1185
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 1: he wanted to dry home and finger pot. I'm just

1186
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 1: saying because I was like ten, I don't know how

1187
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 1: old you do what? I was probably like thirteen. I

1188
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,680
Speaker 1: don't know, Drane, how old were we? How old are we? Da?

1189
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 1: He was, You're only one year younger than me. Brother,

1190
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 1: you're like two years or forty two? Okay, two years? Okay? Cool?

1191
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 1: Oh I goddamn we little side track? What your butcher

1192
01:10:56,920 --> 01:11:00,280
Speaker 1: rockets calling me hold on? But was talking about finger happing,

1193
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 1: finger pop and still popping. Figure's a good poem. What

1194
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 1: no listen back in the day's composed to everything? Like

1195
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 1: I didn't have a new what you got? Who are

1196
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:15,919
Speaker 1: you going with this? What I'm saying back in the days?

1197
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 1: This is like ninety seven, Like he used to go

1198
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 1: to the club and just he wants to finger pop

1199
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 1: fitch Like I never really got like like I get

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01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 1: like in the moment, like I'm thinking about you write

1201
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:32,680
Speaker 1: with what Like he would fingerpop in public, they'd be

1202
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 1: like peace and he's just been showing the whole night.

1203
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:41,719
Speaker 1: It's when did he space? Like my god, like paulm

1204
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 1: staying away with me, I'm sorry a little finger pop

1205
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 1: it brings back so alright, damn I got notes. Can

1206
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 1: we go back to the Biggie Tupac coming out of

1207
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:57,680
Speaker 1: the stage with you, your relationship with POC and big like,

1208
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 1: can you talk about that, like let's go pop first? Yeah? Um,

1209
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 1: well I've known Parks since he danced for Digital. Like

1210
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 1: that's how we first met, UM when I brought Digital

1211
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 1: on the road, Yeah, my Chocolate City tour, UM, and

1212
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 1: we got cooled in. He told me that, you know,

1213
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 1: he coming out with his own stuff as a solo artist,

1214
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:23,640
Speaker 1: and he's he's let me. He told me, you know,

1215
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be like this Digital stuff. You know,

1216
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 1: I've got a whole different direction. He spit for me,

1217
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 1: and you know, dude, dude was nice. UM. So I've

1218
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 1: known him since then. UM. Biggie, on the other hand,

1219
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 1: I never really had a relationship with We've been around

1220
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 1: each other, I think maybe like twice, UM. But there

1221
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 1: were several phone calls that we had, UM. I guess,

1222
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:50,639
Speaker 1: like certain career decisions that he was making, and UM

1223
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 1: Mr C would call with him on the line, and

1224
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 1: you know, we chop it up and you know, you know,

1225
01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 1: he teld me what's going on. I guess he's asked

1226
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 1: me what I think, you know, my view on it

1227
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 1: or whatever. So I've that's really relationship over the phone.

1228
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 1: We never really kicked it, you know, but I've always

1229
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 1: respected both of them, admired them as artists, and you know,

1230
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 1: just looked at their depths and sad losses for hip

1231
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:22,639
Speaker 1: hop and the world during their when they were going

1232
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 1: you know the rivalry part. Did you speak to any

1233
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 1: of the park I spoke to I spoke to Pop,

1234
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 1: but it was brief and it was kind of interrupted,

1235
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 1: interrupted by more East Coast West coast drama because it

1236
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 1: was like a conversation we started on an airplane, and

1237
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 1: by time we got to death Row studio, you know,

1238
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:50,559
Speaker 1: somebody presented him with some more drama about was trying

1239
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 1: to sign you wasn't death Row trying? Yeah? Yeah, this

1240
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 1: was that time. This was that time. Yeah, this is

1241
01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:58,680
Speaker 1: that time. You know, we was talking about it, and

1242
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 1: I guess I was trying to, you know, may him

1243
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 1: understand you know what it was, and they seemed like

1244
01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:07,680
Speaker 1: I was getting through. But then you know, as soon

1245
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 1: as we got to the studio, here comes Cats talking

1246
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 1: about Yo Mob Deep and um Lauren Hill was just

1247
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 1: on on I think MTV TV answer something that they

1248
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 1: was trying to play you. They were saying something to

1249
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 1: such and you know, they filled it up right back

1250
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 1: up a camp and you in that studio and yeah, wow, damn,

1251
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 1: can you got someone's goddamn history? We we definitely need

1252
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 1: a big daddy came day. All right, it's a timber. Tim,

1253
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 1: let's do it and we do declaring it on Drake Chaps. Right,

1254
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 1: it's Tim with Tim. There's a big daddy came there.

1255
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 1: You just gotta cut your eyebrows. Come outside. If you

1256
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 1: can pull out the hot top, do it. Put out

1257
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 1: the hot top. Gr barber gotta be nice, though, your

1258
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 1: barber gotta be nice because you can't have it, can

1259
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:56,680
Speaker 1: I think I wat the flatsop right now on this

1260
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 1: all these kids are doing it. They ain't doing a

1261
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 1: a flat time, No, some of them are. I mean,

1262
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 1: they don't call it came over there. I guess who.

1263
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 1: I think it's a popular basketball player that they reference that.

1264
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:15,600
Speaker 1: You now, I forget who. But but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1265
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:23,640
Speaker 1: ok yeah, Okay. Kids ain't get yeah. I mean, you

1266
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:25,640
Speaker 1: know that's how we go coman. I mean, I have

1267
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 1: a picture in my house with my pops were one

1268
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 1: in the sixties, you know what I'm saying. And I thought,

1269
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 1: didn't Larry Blackman created it? You know what I mean?

1270
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 1: So this this is this is our engineer cocaine has

1271
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:43,559
Speaker 1: Just want to throw that out. Default in the eighties

1272
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 1: was cocaine heavy in the eighties, um in hip hop

1273
01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 1: and hip hop specifically Studio fifty four we heard um.

1274
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 1: I mean I remember it being like, you know, heavy

1275
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 1: around the hood like in the early eighties. Matter of fact,

1276
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:02,760
Speaker 1: late seventies. Early I remember was like fly back there

1277
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 1: exactly like it was. It was a luxury drug. But

1278
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 1: I mean, like the first time I was like really

1279
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 1: around it, around it. It was in the nineties, Like

1280
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 1: I had a party and somebody was doing it at

1281
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 1: the party. You know, that was the first time I

1282
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 1: was really around it, around it. You know how they

1283
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 1: was doing it. There's at the party just whatever Nickel,

1284
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 1: why I sniffed them? Um. Now, they asked could they

1285
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 1: use on one of the bedrooms because he was having

1286
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 1: mansion parties and shipping or something like that. But I mean, people,

1287
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 1: you know, I told him, you know, go ahead. But

1288
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 1: then you know what happened was they switched rooms and

1289
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 1: went into the wrong wrong room. So when I came

1290
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:47,599
Speaker 1: in there to tell him to leave out of this room,

1291
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 1: you know, I see they had they loots, you know,

1292
01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:51,559
Speaker 1: little on the dresser or whatever. You know. But I mean,

1293
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 1: but that was my first time like being around it

1294
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:56,800
Speaker 1: like that, you know. So what's the best time in

1295
01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 1: hip hops came? It was the most fun you ever had,

1296
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:03,719
Speaker 1: Like you I mean, honestly, I feel like the finger

1297
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 1: pop got to be what we're saying, Like, I'm gonna

1298
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 1: be honest, I think his fingers still smelling with st No.

1299
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 1: I mean honestly, I mean my best time in hip

1300
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 1: hop was probably um mid to late eighties, you know, um,

1301
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 1: because you had, like, you know, so many different artists

1302
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 1: when nobody really sounded the same. Nobody sounded the same.

1303
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 1: Nobody sounded at least they did try to, you know, yeah,

1304
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:35,639
Speaker 1: and there was a couple of copper casts, but they

1305
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:39,640
Speaker 1: just all got never working. And then when you go

1306
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 1: to a party, you know, the most stugged out dudes,

1307
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 1: you know, with dance when Gostets come on without a

1308
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 1: polls Top building. You know what I'm saying, Brooklyn's in

1309
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:52,880
Speaker 1: the house when those type of songs came on, he

1310
01:17:53,120 --> 01:18:06,680
Speaker 1: damn top Yeah, shout understood, cold man. We did that

1311
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:10,719
Speaker 1: on my album too with Milk d Yeah. I mean yeah,

1312
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:12,640
Speaker 1: it's it's like, you know, that's that's so It's like

1313
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 1: I just love that era of hip hop because it's like,

1314
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 1: you know, prior to that was um uh you know

1315
01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 1: the run dmc houdini, um Furious five, you know that

1316
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 1: guy era. But you know it's like, I don't think

1317
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 1: that that era um was like like as lyrical as

1318
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:38,080
Speaker 1: the late eighties. And don't get me wrong, Mellie mel Kumo,

1319
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:42,599
Speaker 1: d Grandmaster Cast, those were lyrical peace, But I mean

1320
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 1: it was like it wasn't where like radio and fans

1321
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:48,800
Speaker 1: like the hip hop fans that are, like it was

1322
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 1: really focused on the lyrics like that like they were

1323
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 1: in the late eighties, Like we're like, you know, you whack,

1324
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 1: We don't even want to listen to you. You know

1325
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But how did those guys have set

1326
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 1: you back then? That was an interesting and she just

1327
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:03,599
Speaker 1: broke up your name all the other legends who came

1328
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 1: before you, like uh, like right now we're dealing at

1329
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 1: the time that these young guys are the guys. They're

1330
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 1: all the guys. They are like they are the chosen

1331
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 1: ones for now. But they look they actually looked down

1332
01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:21,760
Speaker 1: on my generation, you know what I'm saying. So how

1333
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 1: was it for you when you was the guy? Was

1334
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 1: the people prior to you looking down on you guys

1335
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 1: in your opinion? Uh? Well, I mean, you know of

1336
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:38,759
Speaker 1: Millie Mel. Yeah, yeah, Millie Mele was um in the beginning,

1337
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:42,599
Speaker 1: but then we ended up becoming real cool ultimately. Mail

1338
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 1: just you see him again. But I mean, you know,

1339
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, with Mel, you gotta understand that

1340
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 1: and respect it because he feels like he kind of

1341
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:58,320
Speaker 1: pioneered it. And I mean, it's not about him feeling

1342
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:02,959
Speaker 1: that way he did, you know, I mean what Hollywood created,

1343
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:07,799
Speaker 1: Mellie Mel perfected. You know what I'm saying. If there

1344
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 1: if there wasn't a Mellie Mel, Me, you and everybody

1345
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:12,840
Speaker 1: else would have been on the mic. You know. You

1346
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:17,680
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Nellie Mel perfected him seeing he

1347
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:21,160
Speaker 1: made it what it is. You know what I'm saying.

1348
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 1: He is the architect of m seeing Mellie Mel, you

1349
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:27,280
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it's like, you know, you

1350
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 1: gotta understand for him to not really get his proper

1351
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 1: respect and if, of course he's gonna be better, So

1352
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 1: it's understandable. Melliel over here drink chance. That's a massive

1353
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 1: him and um, I think they hired Mellie Mel fum

1354
01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 1: before they style and it was it was it was

1355
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 1: crazy for me to like to see him. He going

1356
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 1: he's still you know the does he still do that

1357
01:20:57,400 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 1: and destroys it like and he'll take it through do

1358
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:04,679
Speaker 1: different generations. He was seeing other people recoring not forget

1359
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 1: that with them tight hants on He's still doing the

1360
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:10,599
Speaker 1: leg cross and stuff and drop down on the floor.

1361
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 1: Hold that that's the Villa's thing, you know, Mel, Yeah, mil,

1362
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 1: you're not going to funk out. Yeah, but I mean

1363
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:23,719
Speaker 1: your mel you know, you know. But but like MOLDI

1364
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:25,840
Speaker 1: I guess Mold thing was pretty much more personal with

1365
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 1: him and ll So with me and then met you know,

1366
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 1: we broke bread and we was cool. And with me

1367
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:32,439
Speaker 1: and Grandmaster Cash, it was a type of thing where

1368
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 1: you know, I let Cass not that I'm a student

1369
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:38,200
Speaker 1: to him, that everything I do lyrically I owe to him,

1370
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 1: you know, I mean enough recognition. Actually, he's so incredible,

1371
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:47,760
Speaker 1: Like I mean when okay, yeah, and then go back

1372
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:49,720
Speaker 1: to one of the first questions you asked me Tony T.

1373
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:53,519
Speaker 1: When I was first started, my name was Tony T.

1374
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 1: Like I thought I was killing it. I had something

1375
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:58,120
Speaker 1: like when I'm the t O n y the t

1376
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:02,200
Speaker 1: e E your eyes can't see I know, the tricks,

1377
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:03,800
Speaker 1: and I know the trades, and I'm shop as a

1378
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 1: motherfucking raised and played. I thought I was killing it.

1379
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 1: And then my man played this joint for me, and

1380
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:13,799
Speaker 1: Cash is on there talking about Grand Master Cash, Captain

1381
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 1: of the four. Another nigga couldn't touch me. If he

1382
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:18,040
Speaker 1: had a rhyme store, even if he had a plant

1383
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 1: manufacturing violence, he couldn't make him no better than I

1384
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:24,280
Speaker 1: make mine. I'm like, you know what, I ripped my

1385
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:26,640
Speaker 1: whole note book up and started my life over your

1386
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 1: dick for real? Hold on, what's that I gotta be?

1387
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:33,080
Speaker 1: I'm out, I gotta I'm out for you right now.

1388
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 1: That's what I want to know. What the funk were

1389
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 1: y'all drinking in Brooklyn? Then y'all were spitting the cadence.

1390
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:46,680
Speaker 1: The y'all were spitting like I'm in Miami. And now

1391
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 1: when we reflect back, y'all was doing double time ahead

1392
01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:56,400
Speaker 1: of that being the trend um. Well, that really started

1393
01:22:56,520 --> 01:23:00,799
Speaker 1: hal with mo Yeah, okay, that really started in Hallow

1394
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:04,760
Speaker 1: with Moti with that I'm a super trooper but making money,

1395
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:07,560
Speaker 1: but that I forgot how to rhyme go. Yeah, that

1396
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:10,679
Speaker 1: really that death real fast started thinking little with Modi

1397
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:16,639
Speaker 1: in in Hallow. Um. But I mean, I mean it's

1398
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, in Brooklyn, I think that the

1399
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 1: whole cadence and everything that you hear from a lot

1400
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 1: of Brooklyn see speaking of myself, jay Z Biggie Fabulous.

1401
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 1: It's that it's that pep ship because it's like, you know,

1402
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:36,600
Speaker 1: just the way we we view stuff like um, like

1403
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 1: you like Master D having a party, you know, like

1404
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 1: you know Master D jamming. You know you're gonna get

1405
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 1: your you know, your V next sweater. You know, you

1406
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 1: know your double net V neck joint, your mock neck,

1407
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 1: the thorp under it, you know, some genes to the

1408
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:59,599
Speaker 1: permanent crease and your British and you know you're British

1409
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 1: walker us and like you know, that was that players

1410
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:03,840
Speaker 1: ship that we wore, like you know, like that's that's

1411
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 1: how we're coming to a party that's like a hip

1412
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:09,640
Speaker 1: hop party, you know what I'm saying. So it was

1413
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 1: like that type of thing where it's like, you know,

1414
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 1: we looked up to the dudes that's talking ship in

1415
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:16,680
Speaker 1: the barbershop or in the pool hall, the pimps on

1416
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 1: the corner, So that it was that type of slick

1417
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 1: lingo that we appreciate it and respect it, you know

1418
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like it was like that type of lingo,

1419
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 1: and I think that that's what really defined a lot

1420
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 1: of Brooklyn m season, made them a lot different than other,

1421
01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 1: you know, artists from different burrows. You know, now speak

1422
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 1: about that. I sent you a couple of players ball

1423
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 1: back then. What the were we doing in the players Ball?

1424
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:45,599
Speaker 1: I thought I was a pain for a week. Now

1425
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:48,479
Speaker 1: you're gonna tried to you don't tried to get me

1426
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:52,640
Speaker 1: to admit to being a gangster. So how do you

1427
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:56,479
Speaker 1: think this is gonna work out for you? I just good, no, good,

1428
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 1: Look we we did. We did see each other at

1429
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 1: the Players Balls Company and Georgia Company. Yeah. So like

1430
01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 1: I was, King just connected to all these worlds, like

1431
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 1: in the most respectful way, Like you're just connected to

1432
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 1: the l ship. I mean, you know, I mean it's like,

1433
01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 1: you know, I move around. I'm I guess what you

1434
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 1: can call a soul searcher. You know what I'm saying.

1435
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I can, I can, I can, I can

1436
01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:38,920
Speaker 1: vibe off for energy, man, you know what I'm saying.

1437
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:44,439
Speaker 1: And I love positive energy. I love positive you know,

1438
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:49,599
Speaker 1: positive energy might be in a room full of pimps

1439
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 1: with loud as suits on. But they in they're buying

1440
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 1: each other champagne, talking ship to each other, having a

1441
01:25:57,240 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 1: good time. You know, it might be that the situation,

1442
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:04,439
Speaker 1: I agree, it might be a function that a bunch

1443
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:08,800
Speaker 1: of women are having where they're talking about, um, how

1444
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:13,880
Speaker 1: women can become leaders and have high positions and jaws

1445
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 1: and it's a bunch of black women just talking about that,

1446
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:19,400
Speaker 1: trying to build something positive, you know. But I just

1447
01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:23,760
Speaker 1: I love positive energy, man, I love it. Man, I'm

1448
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:25,839
Speaker 1: not gonna know I know exactly what you mean because

1449
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:30,840
Speaker 1: I was never a pen but I took a liking

1450
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:34,040
Speaker 1: to Juju. I took a liking the Pimmican. I took

1451
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 1: a like in a bishop. I took like in the

1452
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:38,320
Speaker 1: all of them, and they took a liking to me.

1453
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:40,439
Speaker 1: So they would invite me to these events and I

1454
01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:43,519
Speaker 1: would come. So one day I just actually I just

1455
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:46,000
Speaker 1: actually tried to actually be in pump like. So I

1456
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:49,720
Speaker 1: actually had my gold come and I went to his

1457
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 1: white girl said this choose, said, how to choose you?

1458
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:56,040
Speaker 1: I said, oh, Ship, I didn't. I had no idea

1459
01:26:56,120 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 1: what to do. And then everybody on the nias. It's like,

1460
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 1: I don't know what the center to me, I'm like,

1461
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:05,640
Speaker 1: we're lax, I know, se Joes, I'm not what to

1462
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 1: do something, absolutely nothing to do. I have to see

1463
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:12,880
Speaker 1: your buck, you know, I would come on. I'm on

1464
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:16,679
Speaker 1: the road. I'm doing fifty nights. You know. But yeah,

1465
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:22,240
Speaker 1: so my my, my pimp career didn't last your career, Yeah,

1466
01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:23,640
Speaker 1: it didn't last a long time. I know because I

1467
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 1: used to go to the the players ball. They gave me

1468
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:28,200
Speaker 1: the cup. They gave me the players call you have

1469
01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:29,720
Speaker 1: to be a real player. They get a players called

1470
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:32,040
Speaker 1: did you have a players car with the gold? The

1471
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:37,680
Speaker 1: gold players call the green days? Let us look at that.

1472
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 1: Look I ain't gonna one. Before they went to get

1473
01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 1: my car back, I was like, yo, look I'm not

1474
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:46,320
Speaker 1: really here. But they accepted me, so I expected the

1475
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:49,160
Speaker 1: culture pim kan A lot of them dudes is cool dudes.

1476
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:54,280
Speaker 1: Juju juju ye juju real real good dude man him man,

1477
01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 1: good good game, game, good game. I don't think so.

1478
01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:02,519
Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's still down. I could

1479
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:04,679
Speaker 1: be wrong, but I think he's still there. But yeah,

1480
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:09,080
Speaker 1: I don't know even met Kenny Red from Yeah, A

1481
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:10,680
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of dudes. You know, they're real

1482
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:14,479
Speaker 1: good dudes, man, you know, I mean, you know Bishop,

1483
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 1: you know, that's that's my dude. You know, you got

1484
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 1: you know, funny as hell, you know. But I mean,

1485
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:21,360
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, yeah, it was a time in

1486
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:23,439
Speaker 1: my life where I had to really sit and reflect

1487
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 1: on something that he told me to. You know what

1488
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:27,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So, I mean it's like, you know, I

1489
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:30,760
Speaker 1: have the utmost respect for Bishop. So yeah, yeah, so

1490
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 1: but it was nothing like Kane pimpin or nothing. Okay,

1491
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:47,800
Speaker 1: I'll move on, I got, I got, Okay, no a

1492
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:49,880
Speaker 1: right back in the days. This is before you met

1493
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 1: your wife, right, I heard just mastered the female cop

1494
01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:57,200
Speaker 1: at a concert? Is that true? Look in your limo?

1495
01:28:57,960 --> 01:28:59,760
Speaker 1: That's That's what I'm saying. This is, this is, this is.

1496
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:04,639
Speaker 1: This is people the internet that you was in a concert.

1497
01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:08,800
Speaker 1: Female pulled you over and you pulled over. That's a lie.

1498
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:13,160
Speaker 1: That's never happening. It was at an autograph sign and

1499
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:24,439
Speaker 1: that's awesome. Oh my god. Yo. So do you look

1500
01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:27,599
Speaker 1: at you do you look at your life? And like

1501
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:30,240
Speaker 1: my Louis e p is is I want to title

1502
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:32,800
Speaker 1: it my life though, do you ever look at your

1503
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:34,719
Speaker 1: life and be like, yo, my life like the ship

1504
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 1: that you accomplished, like coming from nowhere and just say

1505
01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 1: ship I did. It's just it's just dope. Yeah, I mean,

1506
01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:45,799
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm happy. I mean, to be honest

1507
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:53,880
Speaker 1: with you, Um it's the final chapter. H that makes

1508
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:57,160
Speaker 1: me happy, you know, because I mean it's like, you know,

1509
01:29:57,200 --> 01:29:59,280
Speaker 1: when I was younger, I did a lot of crazy

1510
01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:04,880
Speaker 1: stuff and it was fun, you know for the moment,

1511
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:08,880
Speaker 1: you know, but then after while, you know, like how

1512
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:10,599
Speaker 1: we're saying the thing about it, you know, the best

1513
01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:12,439
Speaker 1: is the best? You know I never had, you know

1514
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:15,519
Speaker 1: how we're saying that. I mean, it's like, you know,

1515
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:17,320
Speaker 1: it was fun for the moment, did they get boring?

1516
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:20,720
Speaker 1: But now you know what I'm saying being able to

1517
01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:25,240
Speaker 1: wake up. You know, I gotta four year old to

1518
01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:29,880
Speaker 1: be having me on the floor playing with um um

1519
01:30:30,160 --> 01:30:34,439
Speaker 1: Transformer dolls and transforming steal cake my four year old

1520
01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:41,680
Speaker 1: joints they got transformed. Still it was dry. I not

1521
01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:45,519
Speaker 1: I'm on the four club playing with Transformers with my

1522
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:49,400
Speaker 1: four year old and Avengers characters and you know, doing

1523
01:30:49,439 --> 01:30:52,960
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and you know, you know, my wife

1524
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:56,479
Speaker 1: talking to me about dinner and showing me stuff online

1525
01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:58,160
Speaker 1: that she want to order for the house and all

1526
01:30:58,280 --> 01:31:01,240
Speaker 1: this stuff. I mean, you know, it's like that's the

1527
01:31:01,240 --> 01:31:03,960
Speaker 1: thing that you know what I mean that you want

1528
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:07,519
Speaker 1: to that's that's that's that's that's that's how what I wanted.

1529
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:09,360
Speaker 1: That's how I want to live. You know, you know

1530
01:31:09,720 --> 01:31:12,280
Speaker 1: these final days out, I want to live them out

1531
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:14,920
Speaker 1: like that. I did that. Well, let's say a final

1532
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:17,840
Speaker 1: days came because you're gonna live forever. That's what you

1533
01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:21,040
Speaker 1: were particular drink champs and that's well, I mean, I

1534
01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:22,760
Speaker 1: want to set on the song I may die one

1535
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:25,840
Speaker 1: day with my runs main like so yeah, I know,

1536
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:28,280
Speaker 1: I know I'm here eternally. I'm just saying that. You know,

1537
01:31:28,479 --> 01:31:30,680
Speaker 1: I'm just saying this, said Flesh. You know, if I

1538
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:34,080
Speaker 1: have a long he said, Flesh, you know questions, huh,

1539
01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:39,640
Speaker 1: you go to Costcos executive number. I'll come up. I

1540
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:46,560
Speaker 1: love you got Costcos Costcos. You understood what I'm saying. Dyslexic.

1541
01:31:48,240 --> 01:31:56,320
Speaker 1: Are there any big daddy can regrets? I didn't sun

1542
01:31:56,439 --> 01:32:04,640
Speaker 1: my daughter. I don't know exactly, I don't know, but

1543
01:32:04,760 --> 01:32:06,680
Speaker 1: I know, I mean, you know, I mean, you know,

1544
01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:13,880
Speaker 1: it's like this said, it's like the equation. You know

1545
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:15,519
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I mean, I mean, it's it's like

1546
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:18,479
Speaker 1: you know when you looking at that, what the answer is,

1547
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:23,760
Speaker 1: you know, that's what's important, And what the answer is

1548
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:28,080
Speaker 1: is what my life is now and whatever it took

1549
01:32:28,120 --> 01:32:33,599
Speaker 1: to get it where it is now. Having regrets might

1550
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:37,000
Speaker 1: change all to something and I may not have the

1551
01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:39,760
Speaker 1: family I have. So no, I'm not gonna you know,

1552
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:43,040
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna, you know, say that I afric regress

1553
01:32:43,439 --> 01:32:45,759
Speaker 1: when you was at the top, because like very people

1554
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:48,760
Speaker 1: can see, like I've had success in hip hop, I've

1555
01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:50,640
Speaker 1: never had the type of success that you had, like

1556
01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:53,120
Speaker 1: being the only guy at that top of that that

1557
01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:56,240
Speaker 1: badman and then you have people who follow like a

1558
01:32:56,320 --> 01:32:59,559
Speaker 1: big jail or nas or whatever. But I've always been

1559
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:02,760
Speaker 1: like a step behind you. Guys, Like, was it over

1560
01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:05,519
Speaker 1: overwhelming when you were just out there and everybody ever

1561
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:08,040
Speaker 1: could imagine how much your people was ringing because it

1562
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:11,479
Speaker 1: probably wasn't phones back then? Was the overwhelming where you

1563
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:15,200
Speaker 1: were just like damn, like you you you asked for it,

1564
01:33:15,439 --> 01:33:17,679
Speaker 1: you got it, and then you were just like damn,

1565
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:20,080
Speaker 1: was it ever like that or not? I mean, because

1566
01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:23,040
Speaker 1: you I mean, I'm I'm I'm a private person. You know.

1567
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:25,679
Speaker 1: It's like with me, I like to come around people,

1568
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:30,400
Speaker 1: spread love and then go to the comfort of my home,

1569
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:34,040
Speaker 1: right you know, like you know you've been like that

1570
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 1: since then. Yes, I mean, like you know, I go

1571
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:40,000
Speaker 1: around the way, shot out on you know, on on

1572
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:43,200
Speaker 1: on Lewis and Van Buren, or go hole to my

1573
01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:46,960
Speaker 1: peeple Script and Brevoid projects, you know, other people over

1574
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:51,640
Speaker 1: in Brookline, or can hang out, you know, buy like

1575
01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:54,080
Speaker 1: a half a gallon of Hennessey, you know, you know,

1576
01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:57,880
Speaker 1: get them maybe like about two hours of we'd you know,

1577
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:00,200
Speaker 1: and let them, you know, do what they do. Said.

1578
01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:02,200
Speaker 1: I did share with them, you know, cast that wanted

1579
01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:04,000
Speaker 1: to float a little you know, we get a little

1580
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:07,599
Speaker 1: ssfer go and spit something whatever, you know. And I mean,

1581
01:34:07,640 --> 01:34:09,200
Speaker 1: you know, I might have you know, a little ship,

1582
01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:12,280
Speaker 1: you know. But it's like, you know, I'm just watching

1583
01:34:12,280 --> 01:34:14,120
Speaker 1: them enjoy theirselfs, you know what I'm saying, because he's

1584
01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:16,160
Speaker 1: his brothers that I respect, and they're still in the

1585
01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:17,920
Speaker 1: hood trying to you know, come up. I want to

1586
01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:19,560
Speaker 1: inspire them, you know what I'm saying. You know, to

1587
01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:21,679
Speaker 1: stay focused, you know what I'm saying, keep tracing chasing

1588
01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:25,080
Speaker 1: that dream and when I take my ass home and

1589
01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:27,760
Speaker 1: then yeah, then I break open my filth of in me.

1590
01:34:28,200 --> 01:34:31,000
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And you know, I sit

1591
01:34:31,080 --> 01:34:33,439
Speaker 1: back and I listened to my motherfucking oldest Redding or

1592
01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:35,800
Speaker 1: David Ruffling, you know the stuff I was. I'm not

1593
01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:37,519
Speaker 1: out there rocking some hip hop with them. I can't

1594
01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:40,080
Speaker 1: come home. I'm thoughts and David Ruffin and just Redden

1595
01:34:40,160 --> 01:34:41,880
Speaker 1: and some of smooth stuff and just laid back and

1596
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:44,639
Speaker 1: I'm showing that I'm good. Now this is my life,

1597
01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:50,439
Speaker 1: you know. Now you got a record with tupop correct. Yeah,

1598
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:54,320
Speaker 1: well there was one with me, Pock and Hammer, and

1599
01:34:54,360 --> 01:34:56,320
Speaker 1: then there's just one with just me and Pocket and

1600
01:34:56,360 --> 01:35:01,759
Speaker 1: the one your pockets called Wherever You Are? And Hammer

1601
01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:04,840
Speaker 1: was too late player, too late. Yeah, he was the

1602
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:10,519
Speaker 1: junior joint. Too late. Yeah, so that's crazy. So alright,

1603
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:14,920
Speaker 1: that pop, right, that pop that you knew back then

1604
01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:17,120
Speaker 1: because you just said earlier, he was like your new pop.

1605
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:20,840
Speaker 1: Those records of pre Death Row pop, those all those

1606
01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:23,439
Speaker 1: songs all happened that same night. I'm telling you about

1607
01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:27,479
Speaker 1: the differences that same night as Hammer was signed the

1608
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:30,120
Speaker 1: Death Row too. Yeah, this is all that same night

1609
01:35:33,120 --> 01:35:36,680
Speaker 1: to underground Pop I'm gonna turn into the death row

1610
01:35:36,720 --> 01:35:40,240
Speaker 1: Pop that you not because you gotta understand, it's like

1611
01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:44,640
Speaker 1: Pop spit for me, and when he spent for me,

1612
01:35:44,680 --> 01:35:47,960
Speaker 1: I saw that he had lyrics and I saw where

1613
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:50,519
Speaker 1: he was going with it, the resolutionary side of para.

1614
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:54,360
Speaker 1: I saw that, you know what I'm saying. But I mean,

1615
01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:57,040
Speaker 1: you know, it's like I didn't know exactly where he

1616
01:35:57,120 --> 01:35:59,439
Speaker 1: was going to go with it, you know what I mean.

1617
01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:01,240
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, she spent for me, and then

1618
01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:04,519
Speaker 1: you know, like you know, three hours later, you know,

1619
01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:06,360
Speaker 1: you know, he was on you know, stage doing a

1620
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:10,880
Speaker 1: Humpty dance with with with um und So I'm like,

1621
01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:16,559
Speaker 1: I don't really know where he gonna go because underground,

1622
01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:23,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, like he kicking some programs you um, like,

1623
01:36:23,439 --> 01:36:26,400
Speaker 1: for example, like my dads in Scoop and Scrap. To

1624
01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:29,639
Speaker 1: try to imagine school or Scrap doing the same thing

1625
01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:32,880
Speaker 1: I did would be a difficult site because they've already

1626
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:38,320
Speaker 1: been seen at school and Scrap, You understand you're saying.

1627
01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:41,880
Speaker 1: So it's like I didn't know how to public would

1628
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:44,840
Speaker 1: perceive it, you know what I'm saying, Right, And that

1629
01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:48,240
Speaker 1: day when you going Big and Pop both on your stage.

1630
01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:53,640
Speaker 1: Isn't scoop on the stage too? But but did you

1631
01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:55,920
Speaker 1: know those those two guys were turned into the people

1632
01:36:55,960 --> 01:37:03,719
Speaker 1: they turned into or you did? Um? Well, at that point,

1633
01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:07,080
Speaker 1: Park was already on his way. You know, Big was

1634
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:10,639
Speaker 1: an up and coming Yeah, because it was what happened

1635
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:16,880
Speaker 1: was C called me and said yo, which is really

1636
01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:19,599
Speaker 1: how we all like in Miami, how we heard this

1637
01:37:19,640 --> 01:37:22,080
Speaker 1: freestyle He put on a mixtape and we all heard

1638
01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:24,280
Speaker 1: around the well. I mean the reason why anybody heard

1639
01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:27,120
Speaker 1: is because Mr C, because he was smart enough to

1640
01:37:27,200 --> 01:37:33,800
Speaker 1: record to show that he was fest is a super

1641
01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:37,920
Speaker 1: fest every night were on stage with Patti LaBelle jeval

1642
01:37:37,960 --> 01:37:43,080
Speaker 1: LeVert MC light um silk. I mean, it's a lot

1643
01:37:43,080 --> 01:37:44,760
Speaker 1: of me I think, B B D a lot of

1644
01:37:44,760 --> 01:37:48,479
Speaker 1: major artists every night. But that particular night she decided

1645
01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:51,479
Speaker 1: to record. That's crazy. He hadn't recorded none of the

1646
01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:55,559
Speaker 1: mothers he recorded that night, you know, so the rest

1647
01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:57,360
Speaker 1: of the world heard it thanks to Mr CE. A

1648
01:37:57,400 --> 01:38:05,400
Speaker 1: matter of fact, let's get Mr C something at that.

1649
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:09,920
Speaker 1: But he called me and was like, yo, big one

1650
01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:14,479
Speaker 1: to come, and you know he was wandering the farm,

1651
01:38:14,600 --> 01:38:17,519
Speaker 1: you know. Uh no, A matter of fact, all he said,

1652
01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:20,120
Speaker 1: was Big One to come. That's all he wanted. He

1653
01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:23,000
Speaker 1: said Big One to come, and I was like, all right, cool.

1654
01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:26,559
Speaker 1: Then he hit me back and said, yo, um, did

1655
01:38:26,680 --> 01:38:29,519
Speaker 1: we have a record though, Yeah, he may have had

1656
01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:33,880
Speaker 1: part party and bullshit. Yeah, But then he hit me

1657
01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:37,920
Speaker 1: back and said, yo, um, Tupac is in town filming

1658
01:38:38,640 --> 01:38:42,559
Speaker 1: a basketball movie. But I don't think he knew the nathing.

1659
01:38:42,600 --> 01:38:45,360
Speaker 1: He said he's from his basketball and he wanted to

1660
01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:49,760
Speaker 1: bring him with him, and you know, me with the

1661
01:38:51,080 --> 01:38:59,080
Speaker 1: my battle mind state, I'm like, yeah, friendly because you

1662
01:38:59,120 --> 01:39:02,000
Speaker 1: want to battle that well. I mean it was like,

1663
01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:06,880
Speaker 1: you know, possible, Yeah, Park was There's nothing personal. I'm

1664
01:39:06,880 --> 01:39:09,679
Speaker 1: not love them just this was this was the brother

1665
01:39:09,720 --> 01:39:11,320
Speaker 1: that came to me in the beginning of his career,

1666
01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:13,920
Speaker 1: so I had nothing but love for him. But this

1667
01:39:14,080 --> 01:39:16,840
Speaker 1: is hip hop, you know what I'm saying. So I'm like,

1668
01:39:16,880 --> 01:39:20,160
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, yeah, bring on them, bring You're gonna

1669
01:39:20,160 --> 01:39:22,519
Speaker 1: burn them down. So that was, you know, where my

1670
01:39:22,600 --> 01:39:24,800
Speaker 1: mind state was. So when they got there, you know,

1671
01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:27,160
Speaker 1: they just came to really this and I told him,

1672
01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:31,720
Speaker 1: you know, yo, you know you wanna get on. So

1673
01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:35,080
Speaker 1: that's really what my mind state was, you know. And

1674
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:36,600
Speaker 1: I mean who would have known that it would have

1675
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:40,479
Speaker 1: turned into what it turned into, you know, because when

1676
01:39:40,479 --> 01:39:44,160
Speaker 1: you seen that beef transpired because you you knowing the

1677
01:39:44,320 --> 01:39:46,840
Speaker 1: night that you just had this is at the Guarden. Correct,

1678
01:39:46,840 --> 01:39:50,240
Speaker 1: the Bubbs was at the Garden, So you know that

1679
01:39:50,240 --> 01:39:51,920
Speaker 1: that night they just had you just had to both

1680
01:39:52,479 --> 01:39:58,280
Speaker 1: on stage with you actually and then you hear about

1681
01:39:58,320 --> 01:40:00,439
Speaker 1: this this beef you ever thought of would have went

1682
01:40:00,520 --> 01:40:05,320
Speaker 1: this far? I mean, you know it's like and then

1683
01:40:05,439 --> 01:40:09,120
Speaker 1: and here two part question, I'm sorry, do you ever

1684
01:40:09,160 --> 01:40:11,160
Speaker 1: think it went this fall? And then not only that,

1685
01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:14,920
Speaker 1: did you ever try to interjeck like just try to like, well,

1686
01:40:14,960 --> 01:40:17,040
Speaker 1: I told you I tried to interject on on the

1687
01:40:17,080 --> 01:40:21,400
Speaker 1: plane from who we're going from Vegas to try to

1688
01:40:21,439 --> 01:40:26,519
Speaker 1: explain that I got interrupted with Yeah. But I mean

1689
01:40:26,640 --> 01:40:29,840
Speaker 1: it's like I didn't think it would go this far.

1690
01:40:30,600 --> 01:40:35,200
Speaker 1: I mean I was surprised, you know, because I mean

1691
01:40:35,320 --> 01:40:39,160
Speaker 1: it's like record you understand it. Here's what I'm from. Nobody, Okay,

1692
01:40:40,360 --> 01:40:45,520
Speaker 1: I'm aware of you know, artists battle in their parties,

1693
01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:47,800
Speaker 1: going against each other, and they got to ride on

1694
01:40:48,160 --> 01:40:51,400
Speaker 1: the same train home. You know what I'm saying. This

1695
01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:53,280
Speaker 1: is type of shift I've seen, you know, what I'm saying,

1696
01:40:53,560 --> 01:40:57,519
Speaker 1: I mean, cold crushed, battling, fantastic on busy being Kumo

1697
01:40:57,600 --> 01:41:00,479
Speaker 1: D L L and Kumo D You know what I'm saying.

1698
01:41:00,520 --> 01:41:04,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen mc shannon caress One. You've seen

1699
01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:06,559
Speaker 1: them battle in it and then again. No, no no, no, no no,

1700
01:41:06,720 --> 01:41:09,160
Speaker 1: I mean I know I'm talking about that's that's something separate.

1701
01:41:09,439 --> 01:41:12,160
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that all these battles I've seen where

1702
01:41:12,680 --> 01:41:17,160
Speaker 1: it was just battling m seeing you know. I mean

1703
01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:21,439
Speaker 1: like me and mc shann on the same label, and

1704
01:41:21,520 --> 01:41:25,120
Speaker 1: him and carress One battle in each other and Carross One.

1705
01:41:25,240 --> 01:41:27,760
Speaker 1: MS Melody helped me move out of my mother's crib

1706
01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:30,160
Speaker 1: when I first moved up to my parents into my

1707
01:41:30,160 --> 01:41:32,800
Speaker 1: old spot. Carross One and MS Melody helped me move out.

1708
01:41:33,240 --> 01:41:35,919
Speaker 1: Wasn't you you made an appearance in the self Destruction

1709
01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:41,040
Speaker 1: video which is which is karros one, Miss Melody? I mean,

1710
01:41:41,080 --> 01:41:44,479
Speaker 1: I was supposed to be on the song, but apparently

1711
01:41:44,479 --> 01:41:47,559
Speaker 1: I was lied to, you know, yeah, somebody told me

1712
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:50,519
Speaker 1: that because I guess the data is according was a

1713
01:41:50,600 --> 01:41:52,280
Speaker 1: data I had to show or something like that. I

1714
01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:54,640
Speaker 1: can't remember, and they told me that that was the

1715
01:41:54,760 --> 01:42:00,639
Speaker 1: only day that I've heard record vocals. M damn. Yeah.

1716
01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:02,880
Speaker 1: And then but I found out way later that you

1717
01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:05,679
Speaker 1: know that I think maybe Chuck D and somebody else

1718
01:42:05,680 --> 01:42:08,120
Speaker 1: have recorded their focus on another day, but they told me, oh,

1719
01:42:08,200 --> 01:42:12,360
Speaker 1: now they've recording everything that day. So I just, you know,

1720
01:42:12,360 --> 01:42:13,880
Speaker 1: I just assumed that I was ship. I ain't gonna

1721
01:42:13,880 --> 01:42:15,160
Speaker 1: be to make it, so you know, it is what

1722
01:42:15,280 --> 01:42:17,000
Speaker 1: it is. But I would have loved have been on

1723
01:42:17,000 --> 01:42:28,160
Speaker 1: that song. Yeah that's a selfless drunction. Jeez, Louise father

1724
01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:30,960
Speaker 1: che Yeah. But you know, but back what we're saying,

1725
01:42:31,080 --> 01:42:34,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like you know, with all I saw,

1726
01:42:34,360 --> 01:42:36,160
Speaker 1: you know, in my lifetime when it came to m

1727
01:42:36,200 --> 01:42:38,000
Speaker 1: C and then as you know with me, you know,

1728
01:42:38,840 --> 01:42:40,559
Speaker 1: I mean, this is something I've been doing since nine

1729
01:42:40,880 --> 01:42:45,120
Speaker 1: eight two, just going to different peoplehoods, battling them. Um,

1730
01:42:45,240 --> 01:42:47,840
Speaker 1: you know who your best MC over here, you know,

1731
01:42:48,560 --> 01:42:52,040
Speaker 1: year around, Yeah, let me holler at him. You know,

1732
01:42:53,200 --> 01:42:55,320
Speaker 1: this is what I've been doing since nineteen two until

1733
01:42:55,360 --> 01:42:57,160
Speaker 1: I got to deal, you know what I'm saying. So

1734
01:42:57,240 --> 01:43:00,320
Speaker 1: it's like this is an understanding that I have, like,

1735
01:43:00,360 --> 01:43:02,000
Speaker 1: you know, this is hip hop, this is what we do.

1736
01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:07,000
Speaker 1: So too, Biggie and Pop to see what they went through.

1737
01:43:07,040 --> 01:43:10,679
Speaker 1: I'm like, because they gotta be crazy from you coming

1738
01:43:10,680 --> 01:43:14,280
Speaker 1: from a battle state and seeing and then but you

1739
01:43:14,280 --> 01:43:17,599
Speaker 1: had to feel different from hearing um Tupacs hit him up.

1740
01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:22,439
Speaker 1: That was a different type of this rap. This rap correct.

1741
01:43:23,080 --> 01:43:27,760
Speaker 1: It had to be to you too, because I'm born

1742
01:43:27,760 --> 01:43:32,519
Speaker 1: in seventy seven, so like your generation is like just

1743
01:43:32,680 --> 01:43:36,720
Speaker 1: right before minds right. So I've heard the battle ship,

1744
01:43:37,080 --> 01:43:40,680
Speaker 1: but it was never like when Tupac took it there

1745
01:43:40,680 --> 01:43:43,160
Speaker 1: would hit him up, like hit him up, was like

1746
01:43:44,320 --> 01:43:47,800
Speaker 1: this was something like he went on his wife. He went,

1747
01:43:48,520 --> 01:43:50,920
Speaker 1: it's just everything that he said. It was just like

1748
01:43:50,960 --> 01:43:54,720
Speaker 1: there's no coming back from this were you never seen

1749
01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:58,479
Speaker 1: I'm not this record is worse than I'm not gonna

1750
01:43:58,520 --> 01:44:03,920
Speaker 1: say that there's no coming back because if you understand

1751
01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:08,120
Speaker 1: the all the war, it's always a way back, you

1752
01:44:08,160 --> 01:44:10,840
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I mean, I don't know, you

1753
01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:13,960
Speaker 1: know what biggie mentality was like back then, but if

1754
01:44:13,960 --> 01:44:16,439
Speaker 1: you understand the all the war, there's always a way back,

1755
01:44:17,600 --> 01:44:22,799
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, Ali be George Forman when nobody

1756
01:44:22,800 --> 01:44:26,120
Speaker 1: else could fact, you know what I'm saying. But I

1757
01:44:26,160 --> 01:44:29,360
Speaker 1: think Mike Tyson, I think he meant there's no way

1758
01:44:29,360 --> 01:44:33,639
Speaker 1: back after for pop ye Cross. Yeah, you're talking about

1759
01:44:33,880 --> 01:44:36,840
Speaker 1: pot cross the line. Yeah, and there's no way there's

1760
01:44:36,880 --> 01:44:44,519
Speaker 1: no squash because, like I mean, I've been till then,

1761
01:44:45,080 --> 01:44:47,400
Speaker 1: we didn't hear this record like that, we heard this record.

1762
01:44:47,400 --> 01:44:51,400
Speaker 1: It's like yo, your girl, like yeah, we didn't hear

1763
01:44:51,520 --> 01:44:54,800
Speaker 1: like motherfucker you know. Then I mean it's like this,

1764
01:44:55,600 --> 01:44:59,960
Speaker 1: then understand me. Funk it. Y'all just can't be friend

1765
01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:03,000
Speaker 1: is no more. Y'all just can't be friends no more.

1766
01:45:03,200 --> 01:45:05,320
Speaker 1: But now your your question is this. You know what

1767
01:45:05,360 --> 01:45:12,599
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You're ready to take it there or you

1768
01:45:12,640 --> 01:45:17,439
Speaker 1: want to reply? The choice is yours. You know. Now,

1769
01:45:17,560 --> 01:45:20,120
Speaker 1: if you take it there, then the battle is over.

1770
01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:23,479
Speaker 1: There's some street ship. Now it's a context if if

1771
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:25,679
Speaker 1: you're ready take it there, the battles over there. Saying

1772
01:45:25,720 --> 01:45:28,160
Speaker 1: if y'all was battling and then y'all start fighting, then't

1773
01:45:28,240 --> 01:45:30,400
Speaker 1: that's it? The battles over They gotta keep it on

1774
01:45:30,479 --> 01:45:33,400
Speaker 1: the streets back then. I mean, it's like you see it.

1775
01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:36,519
Speaker 1: If you feel like somebody violated your family, you know,

1776
01:45:36,920 --> 01:45:39,160
Speaker 1: disrespect your family away, you know what I say, and

1777
01:45:39,200 --> 01:45:41,920
Speaker 1: you're ready to take it there, then I mean, what's

1778
01:45:41,920 --> 01:45:43,680
Speaker 1: the purpose of batting. Just just go ahead and go

1779
01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:47,320
Speaker 1: where you got to go with this, you know, if

1780
01:45:47,360 --> 01:45:50,880
Speaker 1: that's what you choose, or if you choose to respond

1781
01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:58,320
Speaker 1: and violated him directly, you know. I mean, it's it's

1782
01:45:58,320 --> 01:46:01,240
Speaker 1: it's it's it's you know, that's versus yours. I mean,

1783
01:46:01,280 --> 01:46:04,800
Speaker 1: it's like I can't really speak on it or say,

1784
01:46:05,000 --> 01:46:08,120
Speaker 1: you know, what it should have been, because it's like,

1785
01:46:08,360 --> 01:46:10,080
Speaker 1: you know, this is what Park said about Big, this

1786
01:46:10,160 --> 01:46:13,240
Speaker 1: is not what Park said about me. There was obviously

1787
01:46:13,240 --> 01:46:16,000
Speaker 1: more things that played with that beef, like we don't

1788
01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:18,840
Speaker 1: really yet. I mean, here's my thing, is this man?

1789
01:46:19,000 --> 01:46:21,559
Speaker 1: You know? Besides all that, at the end of the day,

1790
01:46:23,479 --> 01:46:29,599
Speaker 1: had Puff and Shug sat down and had a meeting

1791
01:46:30,479 --> 01:46:35,839
Speaker 1: on some don king Bob aram ship, they could have said, listen,

1792
01:46:36,960 --> 01:46:39,360
Speaker 1: we're gonna charge Whoop the Woolf for pay per view,

1793
01:46:41,400 --> 01:46:49,160
Speaker 1: and we're gonna let them go three songs a piece.

1794
01:46:49,840 --> 01:46:51,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it real with come give me a second.

1795
01:46:52,120 --> 01:46:54,880
Speaker 1: We're gonna let them go three songs a piece. Then

1796
01:46:54,960 --> 01:46:59,439
Speaker 1: after the third song, we'll let them go two rounds

1797
01:46:59,479 --> 01:47:10,160
Speaker 1: of battle rap, and we're gonna have people judge calling

1798
01:47:10,200 --> 01:47:15,040
Speaker 1: the judge, and we'll control the hundred or one nine hundred,

1799
01:47:15,120 --> 01:47:19,280
Speaker 1: whatever number to get money off of that, and they

1800
01:47:19,320 --> 01:47:21,200
Speaker 1: both could have got I mean on for them, could

1801
01:47:21,200 --> 01:47:25,800
Speaker 1: have got filthy or for the meaning pop Big sugar Puff.

1802
01:47:26,600 --> 01:47:29,080
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's the way that ship

1803
01:47:29,120 --> 01:47:31,719
Speaker 1: should have been done. I mean, you know what I'm saying,

1804
01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:35,280
Speaker 1: turn into some real hip hop should make it, you

1805
01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:37,200
Speaker 1: know something you can make money off some real boutanies.

1806
01:47:37,320 --> 01:47:39,720
Speaker 1: That's how I should have been done in my good right,

1807
01:47:40,360 --> 01:47:44,040
Speaker 1: Like the mc shan Caress like day was going on

1808
01:47:44,120 --> 01:47:47,160
Speaker 1: toy at one point that was brought about because of

1809
01:47:47,160 --> 01:47:50,000
Speaker 1: the Sprint commercial. You know what I'm saying. But I mean,

1810
01:47:50,280 --> 01:47:52,760
Speaker 1: just this could have been turned into something that could

1811
01:47:52,800 --> 01:47:55,559
Speaker 1: have kept a hip hop but civilized, and maybe both

1812
01:47:55,600 --> 01:47:59,240
Speaker 1: of them would be with us. But all through respect,

1813
01:48:00,840 --> 01:48:03,439
Speaker 1: Shan kind of still is a little bit mad of

1814
01:48:03,600 --> 01:48:06,560
Speaker 1: Caress right now, and Carrots sit on our show that

1815
01:48:06,640 --> 01:48:10,080
Speaker 1: it was semi serious, That's what I'm saying, but like

1816
01:48:10,160 --> 01:48:14,640
Speaker 1: right now, we're serious. I still see Shan like mc

1817
01:48:14,760 --> 01:48:17,960
Speaker 1: shann't pick him up. Queyne's bridge fine this, but I

1818
01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:21,160
Speaker 1: still see Shannon like every now and then every thwee clicks,

1819
01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:26,479
Speaker 1: I see it's still a sham dissing caress like, he's

1820
01:48:26,479 --> 01:48:29,920
Speaker 1: still like, man, I'm still here to diss each other.

1821
01:48:29,960 --> 01:48:32,960
Speaker 1: And that's the big difference. They're still here to diss

1822
01:48:33,000 --> 01:48:36,960
Speaker 1: each other. And that's the big difference. I'm But what

1823
01:48:36,960 --> 01:48:39,919
Speaker 1: I'm saying is does it doesn't commit the same damage

1824
01:48:40,360 --> 01:48:44,679
Speaker 1: because when you got sharing still like you know every

1825
01:48:44,720 --> 01:48:48,800
Speaker 1: you know he's he's still has a personal care rass.

1826
01:48:49,720 --> 01:48:52,920
Speaker 1: I mean that's really on the individual, you know what

1827
01:48:52,920 --> 01:48:56,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I mean, if you're gonna lose sleeping night

1828
01:48:56,120 --> 01:49:00,280
Speaker 1: over losing the battle, that's on you. You know, that's

1829
01:49:00,320 --> 01:49:04,320
Speaker 1: on you because I mean, um, because you're supposed to

1830
01:49:04,320 --> 01:49:09,160
Speaker 1: get dunked on and keep it moving. Yeah, every day

1831
01:49:11,000 --> 01:49:14,880
Speaker 1: everything is better than losing your life. Yeah. So now

1832
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:18,000
Speaker 1: let me tell you something King Well, I mean honestly, yes,

1833
01:49:18,080 --> 01:49:21,280
Speaker 1: I can say if if if, if you're in it

1834
01:49:22,760 --> 01:49:27,000
Speaker 1: for the culture, right, you know what I'm saying. You're

1835
01:49:27,080 --> 01:49:30,920
Speaker 1: battling him, see it, hm, and you want to be

1836
01:49:30,960 --> 01:49:33,320
Speaker 1: the best battle to see. If you lose a battle,

1837
01:49:34,320 --> 01:49:36,439
Speaker 1: then don't take it as a loss. Take it as

1838
01:49:36,439 --> 01:49:40,080
Speaker 1: a lesson, and then it's not a loss. There's a lesson.

1839
01:49:40,479 --> 01:49:42,080
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Figure out what you did

1840
01:49:42,080 --> 01:49:46,640
Speaker 1: wrong like a boxer, you know, because I mean I

1841
01:49:46,760 --> 01:49:50,839
Speaker 1: remember people asking me about the whole jay Z Nas

1842
01:49:51,000 --> 01:49:55,680
Speaker 1: thing speaking to King and who are you going with that?

1843
01:49:56,560 --> 01:50:02,040
Speaker 1: I said, no way, And I was wrong, no way

1844
01:50:02,080 --> 01:50:05,599
Speaker 1: about who were what? I thought that there was no

1845
01:50:05,680 --> 01:50:10,519
Speaker 1: way that nas could could couldn't win that. I thought

1846
01:50:10,520 --> 01:50:12,920
Speaker 1: there was no for the simple fact that you funked

1847
01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:17,080
Speaker 1: up game. I'm saying, I think the moment it makes

1848
01:50:17,479 --> 01:50:19,559
Speaker 1: no because here's here's the thing. Yeah, I need to

1849
01:50:19,560 --> 01:50:24,600
Speaker 1: hear your theory. I knew the jay Z was more sardcasting,

1850
01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:30,559
Speaker 1: and when I met Naws, I didn't really see no

1851
01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:33,840
Speaker 1: sense of humor, you know what I'm saying. It was

1852
01:50:33,880 --> 01:50:37,240
Speaker 1: the first time you met nas Um tell me John

1853
01:50:37,240 --> 01:50:40,840
Speaker 1: Blade Studio, No ump, John Blade Video, No no, No,

1854
01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:52,639
Speaker 1: Unique Studio, Unique Studio, Seventh Street Studio. Yeah, yeah, okay,

1855
01:50:52,680 --> 01:50:56,200
Speaker 1: well the first time I met you, Oh yeah, you

1856
01:50:56,280 --> 01:51:01,960
Speaker 1: get to that later, come on, let's yeah, it was

1857
01:51:02,040 --> 01:51:06,040
Speaker 1: on that on Unique Studios, Unique Studio, and we was

1858
01:51:06,200 --> 01:51:09,200
Speaker 1: chopping it up, and I mean, I didn't see a

1859
01:51:09,320 --> 01:51:12,120
Speaker 1: sense of humor and him, you know what I'm saying.

1860
01:51:12,200 --> 01:51:14,320
Speaker 1: But if you'd have met his brother Jungle, you were

1861
01:51:14,479 --> 01:51:17,360
Speaker 1: new that's the funniest thing in the world. Well, see

1862
01:51:17,360 --> 01:51:20,519
Speaker 1: you you you more inside? So I just said. So

1863
01:51:20,600 --> 01:51:23,120
Speaker 1: it's like I'm sitting there like knowing jay z sense

1864
01:51:23,160 --> 01:51:27,439
Speaker 1: of humor. I'm like, you know someone that you know this,

1865
01:51:27,920 --> 01:51:30,880
Speaker 1: don't have fun, don't play around because see, in my mind,

1866
01:51:31,400 --> 01:51:35,479
Speaker 1: I guess I was I was seeing another battle playing out. Okay,

1867
01:51:35,760 --> 01:51:43,000
Speaker 1: so someone else had a sense of humorous Because look,

1868
01:51:44,160 --> 01:51:49,280
Speaker 1: when people they hear me like on on an Eminem record, right,

1869
01:51:49,479 --> 01:51:51,040
Speaker 1: this is the first time I'm ever gonna say this.

1870
01:51:51,040 --> 01:51:53,160
Speaker 1: This is the I did two or three interviews where

1871
01:51:53,200 --> 01:51:55,920
Speaker 1: people asked me you even call you even called me,

1872
01:51:55,960 --> 01:52:03,720
Speaker 1: get you a foul guy? Gets that's gay? The answers gay.

1873
01:52:03,880 --> 01:52:09,280
Speaker 1: So look, so when I heard Eminem uh against jay Z,

1874
01:52:09,680 --> 01:52:15,840
Speaker 1: I've never looked at it like m destroyed. I just

1875
01:52:15,920 --> 01:52:20,360
Speaker 1: did because I actually kind of related to jay Z's

1876
01:52:20,640 --> 01:52:23,680
Speaker 1: versus more than I did Eminem. And that's not I

1877
01:52:23,720 --> 01:52:25,880
Speaker 1: love him in it. It's just I don't even knowing

1878
01:52:25,960 --> 01:52:31,599
Speaker 1: the Biblical because it was it's really residuals. I don't

1879
01:52:31,640 --> 01:52:34,400
Speaker 1: know that, right, but I know like awkward and boxed

1880
01:52:34,479 --> 01:52:39,800
Speaker 1: lefty in the door, like I know that, right, So

1881
01:52:39,880 --> 01:52:44,120
Speaker 1: people think that I'm crazy when I say that. I

1882
01:52:44,360 --> 01:52:47,679
Speaker 1: look at that record as if it's a great record,

1883
01:52:47,920 --> 01:52:52,840
Speaker 1: right you even know or that Jay you're talking about,

1884
01:52:53,000 --> 01:52:56,320
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't feel like Jay got body right.

1885
01:52:56,960 --> 01:53:04,720
Speaker 1: But on either and to take over NAS on one

1886
01:53:04,800 --> 01:53:11,000
Speaker 1: Man one if you get here, just take over to

1887
01:53:11,120 --> 01:53:15,400
Speaker 1: ether now super ugly. I don't even want to count

1888
01:53:15,439 --> 01:53:18,639
Speaker 1: that because it was an emotional record. You can tell

1889
01:53:20,520 --> 01:53:23,040
Speaker 1: like Jay is one of our best mcs. We can't

1890
01:53:23,040 --> 01:53:25,120
Speaker 1: even we shouldn't even judge him, we shouldn't even rate

1891
01:53:25,240 --> 01:53:27,880
Speaker 1: him or for that, let's just do with those two things.

1892
01:53:28,280 --> 01:53:30,840
Speaker 1: Nas definitely one and James my man Nas my man.

1893
01:53:31,360 --> 01:53:34,200
Speaker 1: But now I think yeah, but because of what you said,

1894
01:53:34,680 --> 01:53:37,360
Speaker 1: it's because of I felt like he took it too serious,

1895
01:53:37,360 --> 01:53:39,200
Speaker 1: like you feel like a battle front? Who take it?

1896
01:53:39,920 --> 01:53:42,280
Speaker 1: I feel like Jay took it too serious like no, no,

1897
01:53:42,400 --> 01:53:45,439
Speaker 1: I mean no, you you could be right, because I

1898
01:53:45,479 --> 01:53:49,360
Speaker 1: don't think that JA expected what NAS did on either.

1899
01:53:50,800 --> 01:53:55,320
Speaker 1: Do you think that Jay underperformed or NAS overperformed? So

1900
01:53:55,400 --> 01:54:00,840
Speaker 1: when you thought to what you thought in terms of

1901
01:54:00,960 --> 01:54:04,360
Speaker 1: humor and all that stuff that Jay z bodied gnaws

1902
01:54:04,360 --> 01:54:09,719
Speaker 1: on Takeover, It's just that the response that NAS had

1903
01:54:09,920 --> 01:54:12,920
Speaker 1: on Ether. I didn't see coming in a million years.

1904
01:54:13,080 --> 01:54:15,240
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie to you. And he took a

1905
01:54:15,240 --> 01:54:18,800
Speaker 1: long time to remember game he didn't just a small now,

1906
01:54:19,000 --> 01:54:22,040
Speaker 1: y'all days a personally do a record. You gotta do

1907
01:54:22,040 --> 01:54:25,080
Speaker 1: it next week he took. He took a little top.

1908
01:54:25,760 --> 01:54:28,360
Speaker 1: I don't even remember, like the window looks like it

1909
01:54:28,439 --> 01:54:31,840
Speaker 1: was a big Yeah, it was, yeah killed I'm a queens.

1910
01:54:34,640 --> 01:54:39,800
Speaker 1: Oh god, damn it. I mean he killed Ether. I

1911
01:54:39,880 --> 01:54:44,480
Speaker 1: never like, would have never expected that from Naws. Like

1912
01:54:45,120 --> 01:54:50,440
Speaker 1: years later I had remember, I had a conversation with

1913
01:54:50,600 --> 01:54:53,880
Speaker 1: Nas and that was the first time I really saw

1914
01:54:54,000 --> 01:54:58,000
Speaker 1: like his sense of humor. Oh no, now it's a

1915
01:54:58,000 --> 01:55:02,440
Speaker 1: funny naer. Yeah, all of earning niggas from Vernon, it's

1916
01:55:03,760 --> 01:55:06,800
Speaker 1: niggas is funny niggas. I but I'm saying, when I

1917
01:55:06,840 --> 01:55:11,280
Speaker 1: first met I'm studio, it's quiet, yeah, quiet, like he

1918
01:55:11,320 --> 01:55:13,880
Speaker 1: was really sitting there talking through me and taking it in.

1919
01:55:14,280 --> 01:55:16,640
Speaker 1: But no, of course you would let you came. Of course,

1920
01:55:16,680 --> 01:55:18,720
Speaker 1: nobody want to be funny in front of you. Can't

1921
01:55:18,720 --> 01:55:27,400
Speaker 1: come on, can't come on. Listen in the line. When

1922
01:55:27,680 --> 01:55:29,840
Speaker 1: when people meet you, they hug you, and I mean

1923
01:55:29,920 --> 01:55:32,160
Speaker 1: they get your five But in the mind. Even if

1924
01:55:32,200 --> 01:55:34,560
Speaker 1: they don't do it, they're going like this, it's facts.

1925
01:55:35,080 --> 01:55:37,600
Speaker 1: They're going back this man. Let me tell you something, Man,

1926
01:55:39,040 --> 01:55:41,760
Speaker 1: you really laid it out for us to play it out.

1927
01:55:42,840 --> 01:55:46,760
Speaker 1: You was the guy in front of you know, Masses

1928
01:55:47,760 --> 01:56:03,320
Speaker 1: finging Pop mcdonna. You know again figure pop. If your yo,

1929
01:56:03,600 --> 01:56:06,320
Speaker 1: you got, you had, you had, you had, you know

1930
01:56:06,880 --> 01:56:12,280
Speaker 1: these these tremendous records you toward. You did everything. And

1931
01:56:12,360 --> 01:56:14,200
Speaker 1: the thing about Drink Chance, we don't want you to

1932
01:56:14,280 --> 01:56:17,120
Speaker 1: ever feel like your life is over or your life

1933
01:56:17,320 --> 01:56:21,360
Speaker 1: has ever been misplaced. He had drink Chance. We want

1934
01:56:21,400 --> 01:56:23,960
Speaker 1: to pick up these other young boys. They got these

1935
01:56:24,040 --> 01:56:26,840
Speaker 1: other outlets where they can go on and they could

1936
01:56:26,840 --> 01:56:29,240
Speaker 1: play their music. And that's not where the hell drink

1937
01:56:29,320 --> 01:56:31,960
Speaker 1: Champs and drink Champs. We want to salute all legends

1938
01:56:33,400 --> 01:56:37,440
Speaker 1: that and no no on, yo, my dude, listen, I

1939
01:56:37,480 --> 01:56:41,920
Speaker 1: got thick eyebrows right now because I was cutting my eyebrows.

1940
01:56:42,760 --> 01:56:45,360
Speaker 1: I was I had three cuts in my eyebrows trying

1941
01:56:45,400 --> 01:56:50,320
Speaker 1: to wild out. You know that, jay Z Larry, you

1942
01:56:50,400 --> 01:56:53,800
Speaker 1: know I see the same thing happened to Kame. Three

1943
01:56:53,920 --> 01:56:59,600
Speaker 1: cuts in your yo, Yo, Look nook my studs already

1944
01:56:59,640 --> 01:57:01,760
Speaker 1: think any way. But I was like, I was a

1945
01:57:01,840 --> 01:57:04,360
Speaker 1: young nigga, like eleven years old and I cut my

1946
01:57:04,520 --> 01:57:08,880
Speaker 1: three Do you know how influential you was whatever you did.

1947
01:57:09,960 --> 01:57:12,560
Speaker 1: But that's just the reason why Jay has to always

1948
01:57:12,600 --> 01:57:17,640
Speaker 1: salute you, because he actually like, whatever you did, you

1949
01:57:17,760 --> 01:57:20,360
Speaker 1: came out of the road. We wanted a road. You

1950
01:57:20,480 --> 01:57:22,880
Speaker 1: had a four finger ring, We wanted the ring. You

1951
01:57:22,960 --> 01:57:25,720
Speaker 1: had a rope chain, We wanted a rope change. I

1952
01:57:25,840 --> 01:57:29,280
Speaker 1: was just being wanted sent honest, that's love. I appreciate.

1953
01:57:29,480 --> 01:57:31,480
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Like you you was. You was the

1954
01:57:33,120 --> 01:57:37,480
Speaker 1: what's that ship? Called that trading setter? Whatever you did,

1955
01:57:37,680 --> 01:57:40,760
Speaker 1: we followed like, how did That's what? That's what you?

1956
01:57:41,480 --> 01:57:44,480
Speaker 1: You know? You you you have to be man, You

1957
01:57:44,640 --> 01:57:47,080
Speaker 1: have to be that. You know what I'm saying. You

1958
01:57:47,360 --> 01:57:53,480
Speaker 1: have to create, you know, your own lane. You have

1959
01:57:53,720 --> 01:57:57,840
Speaker 1: to create that. Otherwise, you know, you just another piece

1960
01:57:57,920 --> 01:58:01,960
Speaker 1: on the table. Man. You have to create your own lane.

1961
01:58:02,320 --> 01:58:06,720
Speaker 1: What makes you? You need you know? And I mean,

1962
01:58:07,720 --> 01:58:09,680
Speaker 1: don't get it funked up big on me. I mean

1963
01:58:09,960 --> 01:58:15,840
Speaker 1: I think that you are a very unique artist yourself, man,

1964
01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:19,840
Speaker 1: because it's like, no, no cares about you today. But

1965
01:58:20,920 --> 01:58:22,520
Speaker 1: I'm ann switch to subject cause I see you trying

1966
01:58:22,520 --> 01:58:26,120
Speaker 1: to switch. I'm good at my game. Let me tell

1967
01:58:26,160 --> 01:58:28,880
Speaker 1: you something, King. One of the things that I want

1968
01:58:28,880 --> 01:58:32,080
Speaker 1: to do right, and it's with all this transitioning of

1969
01:58:32,320 --> 01:58:37,560
Speaker 1: how the coaches moving. What I thought of was, you know,

1970
01:58:37,640 --> 01:58:40,480
Speaker 1: I watched the n w A movie. I watched all

1971
01:58:40,520 --> 01:58:43,720
Speaker 1: these other people movie right now. It's in the two

1972
01:58:43,800 --> 01:58:47,000
Speaker 1: Things One we gotta tell the Big Daddy King started

1973
01:58:47,440 --> 01:58:52,200
Speaker 1: what's it called buyout biopick. We gotta get a big

1974
01:58:52,280 --> 01:58:56,880
Speaker 1: Daddy King biopick. And not only that, but this is

1975
01:58:57,400 --> 01:59:01,240
Speaker 1: also idea that I had. I wanted to do the

1976
01:59:01,320 --> 01:59:07,120
Speaker 1: Clarence thirteen X movie. And as I'm looking at you,

1977
01:59:07,960 --> 01:59:11,280
Speaker 1: I think you would play the Fall? Now? Could you?

1978
01:59:11,440 --> 01:59:13,320
Speaker 1: Could you? Could you think you can pull off playing

1979
01:59:13,360 --> 01:59:15,640
Speaker 1: the Fall of Clarence thirteen X and more? I mean

1980
01:59:15,960 --> 01:59:18,920
Speaker 1: why not? I don't see the why not neither? Why not?

1981
01:59:19,160 --> 01:59:22,240
Speaker 1: I don't I don't see or not. I only see Yes?

1982
01:59:25,280 --> 01:59:28,240
Speaker 1: Would that be your ultimate role as an actor? I mean, hey, brother,

1983
01:59:28,600 --> 01:59:37,120
Speaker 1: you call your people, I call mine. Let's got that?

1984
01:59:38,240 --> 01:59:40,800
Speaker 1: Is that a movie that needs to be necessary because

1985
01:59:40,840 --> 01:59:44,400
Speaker 1: you grew up? You know, um father Ciship. I think

1986
01:59:44,520 --> 01:59:47,720
Speaker 1: that I think that it would be beautiful I mean,

1987
01:59:47,760 --> 01:59:50,760
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, the state of the world today,

1988
01:59:51,680 --> 01:59:57,400
Speaker 1: anything that has a positive view, you know what I'm saying,

1989
01:59:59,080 --> 02:00:05,960
Speaker 1: Anything that would be uplifting to black people in this time,

1990
02:00:06,800 --> 02:00:08,920
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I have to say

1991
02:00:09,040 --> 02:00:11,280
Speaker 1: black people, you know what I'm saying. I have to

1992
02:00:11,480 --> 02:00:15,080
Speaker 1: you know, be that specific because I mean, you know,

1993
02:00:15,280 --> 02:00:20,600
Speaker 1: this is an error where not only you know, are

1994
02:00:20,680 --> 02:00:25,920
Speaker 1: we going through so much with police brutality and you know, um,

1995
02:00:26,840 --> 02:00:30,680
Speaker 1: you know, just that whole lack of masculinity, you know.

1996
02:00:30,880 --> 02:00:33,760
Speaker 1: I mean not only that, it's the type of thing

1997
02:00:33,920 --> 02:00:38,400
Speaker 1: where we're going against each other just to be famous

1998
02:00:38,520 --> 02:00:43,680
Speaker 1: on social media. You know what I'm saying. It's the

1999
02:00:43,760 --> 02:00:46,040
Speaker 1: type of thing we're right now. We we we were

2000
02:00:46,040 --> 02:00:50,080
Speaker 1: in a situation where you know, one black people go

2001
02:00:50,120 --> 02:00:55,360
Speaker 1: against another just to be able to say, you know,

2002
02:00:55,720 --> 02:01:01,920
Speaker 1: just just something important or just be recognized on social media,

2003
02:01:02,720 --> 02:01:04,920
Speaker 1: you know. And I mean it's like, you know, it's

2004
02:01:05,000 --> 02:01:08,080
Speaker 1: it's it's just sad because it's it's not unified, it's

2005
02:01:08,120 --> 02:01:10,920
Speaker 1: not uplift. But you remember your days like they were

2006
02:01:11,000 --> 02:01:14,200
Speaker 1: structure like five percent, people like I remember, like people

2007
02:01:14,360 --> 02:01:17,400
Speaker 1: like you know, coming out like and if they knew

2008
02:01:17,480 --> 02:01:20,200
Speaker 1: my mother. The guards would check me. The guards will

2009
02:01:20,240 --> 02:01:22,360
Speaker 1: be like, yo, you don't have that, no more like

2010
02:01:22,440 --> 02:01:24,560
Speaker 1: if you don't even have that, I don't even have

2011
02:01:24,680 --> 02:01:27,240
Speaker 1: that in the industry. Meaning, but that's deeper than your days.

2012
02:01:28,160 --> 02:01:29,600
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that you go back to

2013
02:01:29,680 --> 02:01:32,280
Speaker 1: the seventies. You know what, it's go back to the

2014
02:01:32,400 --> 02:01:35,880
Speaker 1: seventies with black panthers and so on. You know, I mean,

2015
02:01:36,040 --> 02:01:39,360
Speaker 1: so's it's not like it was just you know, a thing,

2016
02:01:39,520 --> 02:01:41,640
Speaker 1: you know with the five percent. It's this is something

2017
02:01:41,680 --> 02:01:45,000
Speaker 1: that's that's that's deep. That went on a matter of fact,

2018
02:01:45,040 --> 02:01:47,440
Speaker 1: even prior to that, you know what I'm saying, like like,

2019
02:01:48,000 --> 02:01:49,040
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if you know, you know,

2020
02:01:49,600 --> 02:01:51,360
Speaker 1: you know, you got your grandparents are still with us.

2021
02:01:51,360 --> 02:01:53,520
Speaker 1: But I mean they don't tell you. You know. It's like, yeah,

2022
02:01:54,160 --> 02:01:56,640
Speaker 1: you know, they see a child over here fucking up

2023
02:01:58,560 --> 02:02:02,600
Speaker 1: a village, a village, you know, you know, ain't you

2024
02:02:02,920 --> 02:02:05,960
Speaker 1: such boy? What you doing? They whooped gas and they're

2025
02:02:05,960 --> 02:02:08,120
Speaker 1: gonna tell your parents. But but but but you know,

2026
02:02:08,400 --> 02:02:10,320
Speaker 1: that's when I see what's happening in the rap game.

2027
02:02:10,680 --> 02:02:18,240
Speaker 1: In the rap game, Oh you you guys helped us

2028
02:02:19,040 --> 02:02:23,800
Speaker 1: and we it's our false it's my generations for we

2029
02:02:23,960 --> 02:02:26,400
Speaker 1: didn't give a funk about helping the next guys. And

2030
02:02:26,480 --> 02:02:29,800
Speaker 1: I'm not saying me in particular because generation everybody who

2031
02:02:30,040 --> 02:02:34,000
Speaker 1: who I could help? Nah? Okay, yeah, because you be

2032
02:02:34,160 --> 02:02:38,240
Speaker 1: be careful how you choose your words, because um nah,

2033
02:02:38,800 --> 02:02:44,080
Speaker 1: I don't think that this really started until the New Millennium.

2034
02:02:44,520 --> 02:02:48,040
Speaker 1: I don't think this started with your ever. I think

2035
02:02:48,120 --> 02:02:51,520
Speaker 1: this started with the New Millennium. You know what. That's

2036
02:02:51,560 --> 02:02:54,120
Speaker 1: when this ship started to New Millennium when they didn't

2037
02:02:54,160 --> 02:02:56,840
Speaker 1: they respect the elders. You're saying, well, I think what

2038
02:02:57,000 --> 02:03:00,080
Speaker 1: basically happened is like you know, when we end to

2039
02:03:00,600 --> 02:03:06,440
Speaker 1: into this new century. Um, it wasn't a type of

2040
02:03:06,520 --> 02:03:09,280
Speaker 1: thing where cats that you know used to promote Stephanie

2041
02:03:09,320 --> 02:03:11,960
Speaker 1: Mills in the gap band all them or in control

2042
02:03:12,040 --> 02:03:14,120
Speaker 1: of rap where they confused. I don't know what the

2043
02:03:14,240 --> 02:03:18,040
Speaker 1: hell they're doing now we actually have people in control

2044
02:03:18,120 --> 02:03:24,200
Speaker 1: of rap that group. They understand it probably was a

2045
02:03:24,280 --> 02:03:28,120
Speaker 1: rapper himself that didn't make it. You know what I'm saying.

2046
02:03:29,040 --> 02:03:33,320
Speaker 1: They meant that someone that said I don't like grimy,

2047
02:03:34,480 --> 02:03:37,880
Speaker 1: I don't like nothing. Why did I nigger get a deal?

2048
02:03:39,600 --> 02:03:43,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put some real artists, I know on and

2049
02:03:43,160 --> 02:03:47,080
Speaker 1: you see they have this here mentality, you know what

2050
02:03:47,120 --> 02:03:51,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And it's like, you know what what started happening,

2051
02:03:51,360 --> 02:03:55,800
Speaker 1: And it's like, you know, people bringing in their camp,

2052
02:03:57,320 --> 02:04:01,920
Speaker 1: their people, their friends may get them stars regardless of

2053
02:04:02,040 --> 02:04:07,000
Speaker 1: skills exactly. So now therefore skills is going out the window.

2054
02:04:08,840 --> 02:04:14,840
Speaker 1: And then from um label standpoint, you know the stuff

2055
02:04:14,880 --> 02:04:18,040
Speaker 1: that we all went through. Hey, well you know um

2056
02:04:20,480 --> 02:04:26,720
Speaker 1: my ship on double platform, we need to discuss these contracts.

2057
02:04:28,320 --> 02:04:32,800
Speaker 1: They start changing that, creating these one off deals or whatever,

2058
02:04:33,040 --> 02:04:35,400
Speaker 1: you know, and all this and stuff with artists and

2059
02:04:35,520 --> 02:04:38,160
Speaker 1: three six deals. Well that came later, you know what

2060
02:04:38,240 --> 02:04:42,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying, after the sales started to you know, um,

2061
02:04:43,360 --> 02:04:46,560
Speaker 1: you know, go to key and the sales started to

2062
02:04:46,640 --> 02:04:48,520
Speaker 1: decrease in yeah, okay, yeah, we're gonna need a little

2063
02:04:48,520 --> 02:04:50,200
Speaker 1: bit of your show money. We're gonna need a little

2064
02:04:50,200 --> 02:04:53,720
Speaker 1: bit of merchant, you know. And you know it's like,

2065
02:04:53,920 --> 02:04:56,320
Speaker 1: you know, here we are in a whole different state

2066
02:04:56,640 --> 02:04:59,240
Speaker 1: of hip hop where you know, these artists are getting

2067
02:04:59,320 --> 02:05:03,280
Speaker 1: terrib rble deals. But you know it's like what she

2068
02:05:03,360 --> 02:05:10,040
Speaker 1: was asking earlier about the older generation, It's like, yeah,

2069
02:05:11,600 --> 02:05:15,280
Speaker 1: Mel might have been Funky and whatever happened with Moe

2070
02:05:15,440 --> 02:05:19,520
Speaker 1: and l. But I tell you this, Mel did sit

2071
02:05:19,600 --> 02:05:22,760
Speaker 1: and tell me about his career. Mel did sit and

2072
02:05:22,840 --> 02:05:25,600
Speaker 1: tell me the ends and out of his business when

2073
02:05:25,680 --> 02:05:28,600
Speaker 1: I got into it. When I wrote the Lucy's rap song,

2074
02:05:30,280 --> 02:05:34,200
Speaker 1: um Man, Rick James sat down with me and gave

2075
02:05:34,280 --> 02:05:40,320
Speaker 1: me a whole spill on the industry James. Rick James

2076
02:05:40,440 --> 02:05:48,880
Speaker 1: sat and gave me a whole spill. And I came

2077
02:05:48,920 --> 02:05:51,280
Speaker 1: to this meeting on some arrogant ship, on some old

2078
02:05:51,360 --> 02:05:55,680
Speaker 1: you know fun Rick, you said, Rick, not because it

2079
02:05:55,800 --> 02:05:58,200
Speaker 1: was with my man. He was always bragging me about

2080
02:05:58,440 --> 02:06:01,440
Speaker 1: you know. You know how while it was a regular

2081
02:06:02,120 --> 02:06:04,880
Speaker 1: and exactly you know, I was in I'll do my

2082
02:06:04,960 --> 02:06:06,720
Speaker 1: thing thing, you know, so I was like, you know,

2083
02:06:07,000 --> 02:06:10,600
Speaker 1: I get asked. You know, fun Rick was stiff this time.

2084
02:06:11,640 --> 02:06:13,600
Speaker 1: I didn't see him do it, but I didn't see coke.

2085
02:06:13,800 --> 02:06:18,720
Speaker 1: It was Okay, that's another I'll tell you. I'll get

2086
02:06:19,120 --> 02:06:20,960
Speaker 1: I'll get to that as soon as I finished, because

2087
02:06:21,000 --> 02:06:23,600
Speaker 1: that's a hell of a story. But anyway, I mean,

2088
02:06:23,680 --> 02:06:25,680
Speaker 1: it's like Vick James was giving me game. I mean,

2089
02:06:25,720 --> 02:06:28,800
Speaker 1: there's so many Baby White giving me games. There were

2090
02:06:28,840 --> 02:06:31,160
Speaker 1: so many artists that was giving me game. You see

2091
02:06:31,160 --> 02:06:36,920
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Jelil from Houdini, giving me serious game.

2092
02:06:37,360 --> 02:06:39,160
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And I mean, like, this

2093
02:06:39,280 --> 02:06:40,720
Speaker 1: is the type of stuff I tried to do with

2094
02:06:40,880 --> 02:06:43,120
Speaker 1: jay Z. Like I told you earlier about Mr C

2095
02:06:43,320 --> 02:06:46,680
Speaker 1: calling me um with Big on the line, I'm telling

2096
02:06:46,760 --> 02:06:49,800
Speaker 1: Big how I would handle this situation, what I think

2097
02:06:49,880 --> 02:06:51,600
Speaker 1: he should do. You know what I'm saying. And this

2098
02:06:51,680 --> 02:06:55,080
Speaker 1: is the new generation. You know what I'm saying. Did

2099
02:06:55,160 --> 02:06:58,040
Speaker 1: you ever disappoint you at some point? Like you know

2100
02:06:58,320 --> 02:07:01,800
Speaker 1: you guys connected, he was there for him. I can't

2101
02:07:02,280 --> 02:07:04,280
Speaker 1: be honest with you. I can't really say that because

2102
02:07:04,360 --> 02:07:07,600
Speaker 1: it's like I've always known Jay the way he is.

2103
02:07:08,320 --> 02:07:10,840
Speaker 1: I know the type the person he is, So there's

2104
02:07:10,880 --> 02:07:13,720
Speaker 1: no way he can disappoint me, you know, because I

2105
02:07:13,760 --> 02:07:16,600
Speaker 1: mean I know, I know him. I know, Yeah, I

2106
02:07:17,360 --> 02:07:20,280
Speaker 1: know what to expect from Jay, and I'm happy for

2107
02:07:20,440 --> 02:07:24,040
Speaker 1: him and I wish him continue success, you know, um.

2108
02:07:24,680 --> 02:07:26,640
Speaker 1: But I mean yeah, it's like, you know, and I

2109
02:07:26,720 --> 02:07:31,240
Speaker 1: don't know what um Uh, jay Z and Tupac and

2110
02:07:31,320 --> 02:07:34,200
Speaker 1: these cats and Biggie what they did for any other

2111
02:07:34,320 --> 02:07:36,480
Speaker 1: upcoming generation. But I mean, you know, it's like you

2112
02:07:36,560 --> 02:07:39,840
Speaker 1: know um. I mean, I mean I've heard stories about

2113
02:07:39,880 --> 02:07:43,000
Speaker 1: with Jay and Kanye, Dame Dash and Kanye whatever you

2114
02:07:43,080 --> 02:07:47,560
Speaker 1: know I call and with ludicrous you know, and eminem

2115
02:07:47,640 --> 02:07:50,720
Speaker 1: always you know shouts you know, out at the sense

2116
02:07:50,760 --> 02:07:53,960
Speaker 1: as myself, Rock cam Um several others. So I mean,

2117
02:07:54,120 --> 02:07:57,600
Speaker 1: it's like it was passed on. But then you know,

2118
02:07:57,680 --> 02:08:01,920
Speaker 1: there came a point where Day kept a support. There

2119
02:08:02,000 --> 02:08:05,160
Speaker 1: was a separation not created through the artists, created through

2120
02:08:05,160 --> 02:08:07,880
Speaker 1: the industry of course, you know what I'm saying. Through

2121
02:08:07,880 --> 02:08:11,720
Speaker 1: the later expiration Days will put on. Why why do

2122
02:08:11,800 --> 02:08:13,320
Speaker 1: you think it's like that in a hip hoply like

2123
02:08:13,400 --> 02:08:16,840
Speaker 1: to me, to me, I want to prove like the

2124
02:08:16,960 --> 02:08:19,640
Speaker 1: point that like I could have won the championship, I

2125
02:08:19,680 --> 02:08:22,200
Speaker 1: could have been a Shaquille on Nil like you know,

2126
02:08:22,400 --> 02:08:26,480
Speaker 1: I've I've been platinum of you know, had gold albums

2127
02:08:26,520 --> 02:08:28,560
Speaker 1: and now I want to turn it to media. So

2128
02:08:29,160 --> 02:08:31,960
Speaker 1: I would have shown people that, you know, you could

2129
02:08:32,000 --> 02:08:34,440
Speaker 1: be cool growing old. I'm forty years old, just turned

2130
02:08:34,520 --> 02:08:39,120
Speaker 1: forty years old. Why is it that people want to

2131
02:08:39,160 --> 02:08:43,000
Speaker 1: give hip hop and aspiration day why? Well, I think

2132
02:08:43,200 --> 02:08:45,200
Speaker 1: one of the reasons. I think one of the reasons

2133
02:08:45,360 --> 02:08:51,560
Speaker 1: is that if the youth of today connect with your generation,

2134
02:08:52,080 --> 02:08:54,000
Speaker 1: because you have to me, you know, so if you

2135
02:08:55,160 --> 02:09:02,600
Speaker 1: didn't really have to say of course. But if they

2136
02:09:02,760 --> 02:09:07,680
Speaker 1: connect with you, then comes you schooling them on what

2137
02:09:07,880 --> 02:09:10,560
Speaker 1: real hip hop is and might make them want to

2138
02:09:10,640 --> 02:09:14,240
Speaker 1: think for themselves, because right now they're not thinking for

2139
02:09:14,320 --> 02:09:18,160
Speaker 1: themselves because they'd be a brainwash. What they're hearing on

2140
02:09:18,240 --> 02:09:21,880
Speaker 1: the radio. Yeah, well not just they're they're told this

2141
02:09:22,040 --> 02:09:23,680
Speaker 1: is what we need, we need you to do this.

2142
02:09:23,880 --> 02:09:30,600
Speaker 1: We need to just sound like we need social media radio. Yeah,

2143
02:09:35,480 --> 02:09:37,000
Speaker 1: you know, k you know what about you know what

2144
02:09:37,000 --> 02:09:39,040
Speaker 1: I'm talking about? No, I mean no, no, for real,

2145
02:09:39,120 --> 02:09:42,240
Speaker 1: that's that's what they tell you. No, listen, we're looking

2146
02:09:42,280 --> 02:09:44,840
Speaker 1: for something more like a you know, can you do this?

2147
02:09:45,440 --> 02:09:48,800
Speaker 1: All right? Well, going down the bridles on us, get

2148
02:09:48,840 --> 02:09:50,720
Speaker 1: your address and come on the funk with me, and

2149
02:09:50,760 --> 02:09:52,320
Speaker 1: we were gonna make this his song happen for you.

2150
02:09:52,600 --> 02:09:57,520
Speaker 1: And that's what's happening. It's a dude guy right now.

2151
02:09:57,720 --> 02:10:00,360
Speaker 1: You can see the guy his a wedding dre that song.

2152
02:10:00,840 --> 02:10:03,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's from Florida too, He's that's what I heard.

2153
02:10:03,920 --> 02:10:06,880
Speaker 1: That's what I heard. God bless your negs in Florida.

2154
02:10:10,840 --> 02:10:13,120
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold all right, let's take one break. I

2155
02:10:13,160 --> 02:10:16,040
Speaker 1: gotta take one more Pistons's follow you on bread and

2156
02:10:16,200 --> 02:10:18,000
Speaker 1: we spoking smoke. Gets me here real quick, cause I

2157
02:10:18,000 --> 02:10:20,440
Speaker 1: know you gotta asked. All right, cool, get to me

2158
02:10:20,520 --> 02:10:25,440
Speaker 1: in real quick. Cane over there. Okay, can you ain't

2159
02:10:25,520 --> 02:10:30,720
Speaker 1: drink the whole bottom by yourself? He's showing up. I'm

2160
02:10:30,720 --> 02:10:34,480
Speaker 1: definitely gonna take a glass. I thought you said we

2161
02:10:34,680 --> 02:10:39,040
Speaker 1: was drinking drinking? Is he going to here? Gonna what

2162
02:10:39,160 --> 02:10:42,680
Speaker 1: taver with us afterwards? What? I'm sure you're good. You

2163
02:10:42,760 --> 02:10:46,000
Speaker 1: got a flight? Okay, I got an early flight too.

2164
02:10:46,000 --> 02:10:50,440
Speaker 1: It's okay, you've been doing it. Yeah, he just has

2165
02:10:50,520 --> 02:10:54,640
Speaker 1: to fly this time of year. You just gonna fly

2166
02:10:54,840 --> 02:10:57,880
Speaker 1: for the reason I used to hit your moms back. Yeah,

2167
02:10:58,000 --> 02:11:02,720
Speaker 1: get your mouths up, were calling. I'm about seventeen ship segments.

2168
02:11:02,720 --> 02:11:08,960
Speaker 1: Shot myself. Man, if you got great so Vegas, then

2169
02:11:09,040 --> 02:11:12,160
Speaker 1: back and then l A and back into up. I'm

2170
02:11:12,200 --> 02:11:16,120
Speaker 1: plating them one kid again. My team sucks now, American

2171
02:11:16,160 --> 02:11:18,920
Speaker 1: Airlines suck them, man, That's what I'm That's what I'm

2172
02:11:18,920 --> 02:11:22,160
Speaker 1: going too. But seventeen segments to make executive platform. I'm

2173
02:11:22,160 --> 02:11:25,600
Speaker 1: planning just regular platform. I'm planning the pro but I'm

2174
02:11:25,640 --> 02:11:27,280
Speaker 1: trying to get that exactly. How do you feel about

2175
02:11:27,280 --> 02:11:29,280
Speaker 1: what's going on with him right now? Where you separated

2176
02:11:29,280 --> 02:11:34,600
Speaker 1: the ship and people out one they said, don't fly,

2177
02:11:35,600 --> 02:11:40,160
Speaker 1: But I thought Tyler Perry American what I thought he

2178
02:11:40,720 --> 02:11:43,360
Speaker 1: saw it? I thought he had something to do with that. Yeah,

2179
02:11:44,640 --> 02:11:47,920
Speaker 1: one more shot, because you know we're here with came

2180
02:11:48,040 --> 02:11:51,520
Speaker 1: man and let me just tell you something, man, can

2181
02:11:51,560 --> 02:11:56,560
Speaker 1: you are very much appreciated. Absolutely, you are very much.

2182
02:11:58,480 --> 02:12:01,280
Speaker 1: When we started this program, we we just wanted to

2183
02:12:01,880 --> 02:12:05,320
Speaker 1: We figured, you know, these guys they come out, they

2184
02:12:05,360 --> 02:12:08,280
Speaker 1: have one hit Wonders and they you know, they have

2185
02:12:08,400 --> 02:12:11,920
Speaker 1: a luxtrious two or three years, and we want to

2186
02:12:12,000 --> 02:12:14,480
Speaker 1: respect them too. We don't we don't have nothing against them,

2187
02:12:15,440 --> 02:12:17,480
Speaker 1: but we want to respect the aur legends who got

2188
02:12:18,240 --> 02:12:27,640
Speaker 1: you know, ten fifty years in his career. Because we

2189
02:12:27,800 --> 02:12:30,760
Speaker 1: noticed that every other genre in music, when you have

2190
02:12:30,920 --> 02:12:35,440
Speaker 1: that longevity, you're saluted. But in hip hop you have

2191
02:12:35,600 --> 02:12:38,680
Speaker 1: that longevity and they call you old or they call

2192
02:12:38,760 --> 02:12:43,360
Speaker 1: you wash stuff, though they call you man. I want

2193
02:12:43,400 --> 02:12:45,960
Speaker 1: to stop using the world relevant because the world relevant

2194
02:12:46,040 --> 02:12:48,520
Speaker 1: is only relevant to people who use that world relevancee

2195
02:12:48,680 --> 02:12:51,400
Speaker 1: relevant to see relevant. You know what I'm saying you

2196
02:12:51,520 --> 02:12:55,320
Speaker 1: got big Daddy Kane fans who will probably never listen

2197
02:12:55,440 --> 02:12:59,440
Speaker 1: to these new guys, right, and then vice versa, it

2198
02:12:59,560 --> 02:13:02,000
Speaker 1: doesn't mean it doesn't take away from you to take

2199
02:13:02,040 --> 02:13:06,920
Speaker 1: away from them. The thing is, if you had this

2200
02:13:07,920 --> 02:13:12,360
Speaker 1: career where you lived over ten years and twelve and

2201
02:13:12,520 --> 02:13:15,360
Speaker 1: thirteen years and here, this is where we want to

2202
02:13:15,360 --> 02:13:17,200
Speaker 1: salute you. This is where we want to pick our

2203
02:13:17,280 --> 02:13:21,040
Speaker 1: people up, from you to Chuck D the care arrest

2204
02:13:21,160 --> 02:13:26,040
Speaker 1: one to to a d MX, to uh whoever. We

2205
02:13:26,200 --> 02:13:27,920
Speaker 1: want to sit here and we want to let our

2206
02:13:28,000 --> 02:13:31,880
Speaker 1: legends know that you have a place in hip hop

2207
02:13:32,760 --> 02:13:36,040
Speaker 1: and you will forever be remembered for what you did

2208
02:13:36,680 --> 02:13:39,920
Speaker 1: for hip and you are hip hop and that's what

2209
02:13:40,160 --> 02:13:42,880
Speaker 1: this is about. We are honored that these people will

2210
02:13:42,920 --> 02:13:45,640
Speaker 1: come and listen to us, But even if the people

2211
02:13:45,680 --> 02:13:47,840
Speaker 1: ain't come and listen to us, we'll be honored to

2212
02:13:47,920 --> 02:13:50,720
Speaker 1: do this and sit before listen. I'm glad to be

2213
02:13:50,760 --> 02:13:59,240
Speaker 1: a part of it. Man, sit before that. Look, I'm

2214
02:13:59,280 --> 02:14:02,000
Speaker 1: gonna pop that last battle. Look. Look, look we got

2215
02:14:02,080 --> 02:14:04,960
Speaker 1: to have a drink with me. I have a drink

2216
02:14:05,000 --> 02:14:07,440
Speaker 1: with you. I already separated my cops. Look that's my

2217
02:14:07,560 --> 02:14:09,800
Speaker 1: rare wine cup. Right there. I'm gonna have a drink.

2218
02:14:10,680 --> 02:14:12,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do one more shot. They're don't get about it.

2219
02:14:14,000 --> 02:14:16,480
Speaker 1: Oh I look at that can. Okay, I ain't gonna lock.

2220
02:14:17,080 --> 02:14:19,400
Speaker 1: Oh look but can? Did you did you have a

2221
02:14:19,520 --> 02:14:23,600
Speaker 1: glass of rose in two thousand? In seventeen? This is

2222
02:14:23,640 --> 02:14:26,840
Speaker 1: the new ship. This is the kids drinking. Ok you

2223
02:14:26,920 --> 02:14:28,640
Speaker 1: got I have a drink with you. You have a

2224
02:14:28,720 --> 02:14:31,000
Speaker 1: drink with me, and we got we got a gift

2225
02:14:31,080 --> 02:14:34,960
Speaker 1: for you from eight and nine. Thank you? He got mad?

2226
02:14:35,040 --> 02:14:38,520
Speaker 1: Guess he got mad? Guess? Yeah, I want, I want,

2227
02:14:38,560 --> 02:14:41,160
Speaker 1: I want to turn you onto something else to man okay,

2228
02:14:41,640 --> 02:14:44,720
Speaker 1: like like like you you enter the champagne. No, I'm

2229
02:14:44,760 --> 02:14:50,320
Speaker 1: in a champagne. Yea, there's a champagne called Billa card someone. Okay,

2230
02:14:50,320 --> 02:14:52,560
Speaker 1: I've devin never heard of that. You're very rich, cam

2231
02:14:52,720 --> 02:14:58,240
Speaker 1: Sorry continue that's it sounded rich? Better call sound harm

2232
02:14:58,680 --> 02:15:02,280
Speaker 1: what I have? Mom? Listen to say it again? Thing

2233
02:15:02,680 --> 02:15:08,120
Speaker 1: the loo across someone you listen, no real talk. You

2234
02:15:08,240 --> 02:15:11,000
Speaker 1: need to try that to call some more. Um no,

2235
02:15:11,120 --> 02:15:13,320
Speaker 1: because I mean like you have missed with like the

2236
02:15:13,400 --> 02:15:17,280
Speaker 1: wove a click yeah yeah, like and how it don't

2237
02:15:17,400 --> 02:15:21,880
Speaker 1: really have that? You know that that that master see

2238
02:15:22,000 --> 02:15:25,640
Speaker 1: no spell. Look you used to finish. I learned this

2239
02:15:25,720 --> 02:15:30,000
Speaker 1: in parish ship. Look at that? Can't I can't look

2240
02:15:30,040 --> 02:15:31,960
Speaker 1: at that? And you know what you gotta do. You

2241
02:15:32,040 --> 02:15:38,400
Speaker 1: gotta twist. So come on, give me, give me a cane, cup,

2242
02:15:38,440 --> 02:15:40,040
Speaker 1: Give me a cup. I'm gonna take one of yours.

2243
02:15:40,080 --> 02:15:41,760
Speaker 1: You gotta take. You gotta take something. This is what

2244
02:15:41,840 --> 02:15:47,320
Speaker 1: the kids look, didn't you. Yep, that's that's that's make

2245
02:15:47,400 --> 02:15:50,480
Speaker 1: sure that's not something that was water. That's what we

2246
02:15:50,560 --> 02:15:54,720
Speaker 1: wanted first. First, you gotta look if you want, you

2247
02:15:54,760 --> 02:15:58,600
Speaker 1: gotta need to cool. Alright, cool, good cane. The cane

2248
02:15:58,680 --> 02:16:01,760
Speaker 1: chooses cup, said King. God, damn, I look at that, King,

2249
02:16:01,840 --> 02:16:07,480
Speaker 1: Look at look how pouring at it. Okay, okay, okay,

2250
02:16:08,600 --> 02:16:12,040
Speaker 1: you're okay. Now you told you to drink. I boared

2251
02:16:12,080 --> 02:16:15,520
Speaker 1: you and I'm gonna drink you poured me. This is

2252
02:16:15,600 --> 02:16:19,000
Speaker 1: too big, Daddy, King, for all your accolades, for everything

2253
02:16:19,040 --> 02:16:22,400
Speaker 1: you did for hip hop, for everything you contributed to

2254
02:16:22,560 --> 02:16:25,520
Speaker 1: hip hop, for every time you had a bad day

2255
02:16:25,560 --> 02:16:27,240
Speaker 1: in hip hop, for every time you had a good

2256
02:16:27,360 --> 02:16:29,680
Speaker 1: day in hip hop, every time you had a medium

2257
02:16:29,760 --> 02:16:31,440
Speaker 1: day in hip hop, We want you to know that

2258
02:16:31,520 --> 02:16:34,040
Speaker 1: you will always be welcome and drink chats. Any time

2259
02:16:34,080 --> 02:16:37,000
Speaker 1: you want to introduce anything that you're doing in life,

2260
02:16:37,280 --> 02:16:44,760
Speaker 1: we are here for you. Me and DJA. We got

2261
02:16:44,840 --> 02:16:46,760
Speaker 1: a couple a couple of questions before we get out

2262
02:16:46,800 --> 02:16:50,000
Speaker 1: of here because my brother, Weird Thoughts reminded me of something.

2263
02:16:50,280 --> 02:16:53,880
Speaker 1: Weird Thoughts one of my favorite tracks that you were

2264
02:16:54,000 --> 02:16:59,400
Speaker 1: part of collectively, Burne Hollywood Burn Chuck d Ice. Qu

2265
02:17:00,200 --> 02:17:03,000
Speaker 1: Uh huh? How did this come about? What was? Just

2266
02:17:03,160 --> 02:17:07,840
Speaker 1: give me? Huck had a concept, he said, what it was,

2267
02:17:09,920 --> 02:17:14,520
Speaker 1: That's what I'd be down. I said, yeah, and we

2268
02:17:14,680 --> 02:17:16,760
Speaker 1: made it, made it happen, and I mean, you know,

2269
02:17:16,879 --> 02:17:20,880
Speaker 1: it was like he had a visual because I mean

2270
02:17:20,959 --> 02:17:22,840
Speaker 1: it was like, even though he had already explained to

2271
02:17:22,959 --> 02:17:26,440
Speaker 1: me what it was about, when it was time to

2272
02:17:26,520 --> 02:17:30,439
Speaker 1: do it, he explained again and win the deep detail

2273
02:17:30,680 --> 02:17:34,800
Speaker 1: and using references and all that year. You know, I

2274
02:17:34,840 --> 02:17:36,760
Speaker 1: don't know if you know Chuck, but you know Chuck

2275
02:17:36,879 --> 02:17:39,560
Speaker 1: Chuck Chuck Yell, you know, so you know, he long winded,

2276
02:17:40,560 --> 02:17:43,680
Speaker 1: you know, and he went to deep, deep, deep, deep

2277
02:17:44,000 --> 02:17:46,640
Speaker 1: deep details. But I mean it was the type of

2278
02:17:46,680 --> 02:17:49,320
Speaker 1: thing was like, bro, I'm happy to be on the song,

2279
02:17:49,440 --> 02:17:53,840
Speaker 1: but that's the first time you had worked with Q. Yeah. Yeah,

2280
02:17:55,240 --> 02:17:57,840
Speaker 1: like I admit Cube, you know Cube was always cool,

2281
02:17:58,920 --> 02:18:03,680
Speaker 1: you know, but working together. Yeah. So and in the way,

2282
02:18:03,720 --> 02:18:06,160
Speaker 1: one more, Paul, where you at ball drinking sports? He had?

2283
02:18:06,200 --> 02:18:09,120
Speaker 1: He has another question. I didn't have a question as

2284
02:18:09,280 --> 02:18:11,360
Speaker 1: as a fan. How was it when he did one

2285
02:18:11,400 --> 02:18:14,120
Speaker 1: time a time at the man took off his hat,

2286
02:18:21,560 --> 02:18:24,119
Speaker 1: keep your hat on, Keep your hat on? When when

2287
02:18:24,160 --> 02:18:26,600
Speaker 1: you did the lean on me? Because that was on

2288
02:18:26,760 --> 02:18:30,160
Speaker 1: with Morgan Freeman and Robert Gallus passed the way a

2289
02:18:30,200 --> 02:18:32,039
Speaker 1: couple of days ago. You meet him like, how did

2290
02:18:32,360 --> 02:18:34,040
Speaker 1: how did you get on the song? How did you

2291
02:18:34,120 --> 02:18:37,720
Speaker 1: get the actual soundtrack? We want the song because of

2292
02:18:37,840 --> 02:18:41,760
Speaker 1: Bennie Medina. Um, you know, I guess let me just

2293
02:18:42,280 --> 02:18:45,000
Speaker 1: throw out Benny. The name came up a couple of

2294
02:18:45,080 --> 02:18:46,960
Speaker 1: times on this podcast. I just want to throw it

2295
02:18:47,040 --> 02:18:51,320
Speaker 1: out there. Bennie Medina's name came up with Mariah Carey

2296
02:18:51,520 --> 02:18:56,879
Speaker 1: and Jay Long. Continue Latino. He's talking about Big Nicks

2297
02:18:57,000 --> 02:18:59,400
Speaker 1: right now. Sorry, yeah, you know Bennie mcginna. You know

2298
02:18:59,560 --> 02:19:03,200
Speaker 1: he was, um, you know, because Kine so smooth, he said,

2299
02:19:03,240 --> 02:19:07,039
Speaker 1: like the owner Bodega. We gotta relax. He's a big

2300
02:19:08,280 --> 02:19:10,640
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Yeah, Well, I mean, this is when he

2301
02:19:10,760 --> 02:19:12,880
Speaker 1: was at Warner Brothers and um, you know, he was

2302
02:19:13,000 --> 02:19:18,240
Speaker 1: responsible for The Holy and on the soundtrack. And it

2303
02:19:18,400 --> 02:19:21,640
Speaker 1: was so funny because it was like, you know, uh,

2304
02:19:21,720 --> 02:19:23,360
Speaker 1: he told me about the song, and I had a

2305
02:19:23,440 --> 02:19:26,560
Speaker 1: copy of the film and I did watch the film,

2306
02:19:27,280 --> 02:19:30,800
Speaker 1: but didn't write the song because I was going through

2307
02:19:30,920 --> 02:19:34,000
Speaker 1: some other you know, some some other you know, you know,

2308
02:19:34,120 --> 02:19:37,320
Speaker 1: contract exputes, you know, um with Coach Chilling and and

2309
02:19:37,760 --> 02:19:40,320
Speaker 1: so I just was like, you know, you know, after song,

2310
02:19:40,440 --> 02:19:42,960
Speaker 1: I ain't. But then Bennie he was like asked me.

2311
02:19:43,200 --> 02:19:44,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I'm on it. I'm on I'm on it.

2312
02:19:45,240 --> 02:19:47,320
Speaker 1: Then one day Bennie hit me and was like, Yo,

2313
02:19:47,600 --> 02:19:50,800
Speaker 1: how are we coming with the song? And I'm like yeah,

2314
02:19:50,800 --> 02:19:53,200
Speaker 1: we were good, and he said, you know, can we

2315
02:19:53,280 --> 02:19:59,080
Speaker 1: do it today? UM like, um, well I try And

2316
02:19:59,200 --> 02:20:01,560
Speaker 1: he said, okay, we'll it. I'm in New York, you

2317
02:20:01,640 --> 02:20:03,120
Speaker 1: can you can I send a car to pick you

2318
02:20:03,200 --> 02:20:07,040
Speaker 1: up and bring you the Molley House and oh you know,

2319
02:20:07,520 --> 02:20:09,520
Speaker 1: so I was like, oh, yeah, maybe it happen. Yeah,

2320
02:20:09,520 --> 02:20:12,120
Speaker 1: you go, Like I said, I saw the movie, but

2321
02:20:12,200 --> 02:20:15,480
Speaker 1: I didn't write this song. So in the time that

2322
02:20:16,080 --> 02:20:18,320
Speaker 1: he made the call for the car and for the

2323
02:20:18,360 --> 02:20:21,000
Speaker 1: Mega to my crib and Queens and for me to

2324
02:20:21,040 --> 02:20:24,080
Speaker 1: get the Queens up to Spring Valley. That's the time

2325
02:20:24,160 --> 02:20:30,720
Speaker 1: I used to actually right lean on me. Yeah, don't you.

2326
02:20:33,040 --> 02:20:37,320
Speaker 1: Actually another soundtrack that for me is instrumental is the

2327
02:20:37,480 --> 02:20:40,600
Speaker 1: Juice soundtrack that you're not for respective And that's another

2328
02:20:40,680 --> 02:20:50,040
Speaker 1: funny story because I mean Hank Shockley was yeah, bumps, Yeah,

2329
02:20:50,040 --> 02:20:53,040
Speaker 1: Ain't Shockley wanted me to do this song. But it

2330
02:20:53,200 --> 02:20:55,840
Speaker 1: was like, at that point in time, I think I

2331
02:20:56,080 --> 02:20:58,800
Speaker 1: was really focusing on my film career, trying to get

2332
02:20:58,879 --> 02:21:03,000
Speaker 1: that jump started. So my mind was really there, you know,

2333
02:21:03,959 --> 02:21:07,960
Speaker 1: and he was driving me crazy about the song, and

2334
02:21:08,080 --> 02:21:12,240
Speaker 1: he was like, Yo, can you do it when you

2335
02:21:12,360 --> 02:21:16,680
Speaker 1: get back to New York. When I say that, I

2336
02:21:16,760 --> 02:21:18,760
Speaker 1: mean like he meant that day I got back to YO,

2337
02:21:20,080 --> 02:21:22,880
Speaker 1: and I mean, you know, I arrived in New York

2338
02:21:25,760 --> 02:21:29,560
Speaker 1: Leading airport, come to my crib. Hank Shocking parked in

2339
02:21:29,640 --> 02:21:34,320
Speaker 1: my drive way, sleep sleep waiting for me. How demand,

2340
02:21:35,360 --> 02:21:37,240
Speaker 1: So you know, we kind of come to the studio

2341
02:21:37,400 --> 02:21:40,959
Speaker 1: that night and you know, right, the joint put together,

2342
02:21:42,000 --> 02:21:45,119
Speaker 1: but you know we made that happen incredible to be honest,

2343
02:21:45,600 --> 02:21:48,200
Speaker 1: As I'm drinking his word wine, I immediately want to

2344
02:21:48,240 --> 02:21:53,480
Speaker 1: eat Pussy. I know you're a different makes me want

2345
02:21:54,520 --> 02:22:01,120
Speaker 1: like I've never had alcohol. JAS say that red one

2346
02:22:01,879 --> 02:22:07,080
Speaker 1: brings the best I knew. It made me want to

2347
02:22:07,120 --> 02:22:13,400
Speaker 1: listen to oldest Redden. But if Pussy's your choice, definitely,

2348
02:22:13,680 --> 02:22:15,960
Speaker 1: it's just like it's got weird for me. Did you

2349
02:22:16,040 --> 02:22:17,920
Speaker 1: finish my drink? I want to know what it makes

2350
02:22:17,959 --> 02:22:26,720
Speaker 1: you feel like? No, not listen, No, no, no, I've

2351
02:22:26,800 --> 02:22:30,240
Speaker 1: done that. I mean, yeah, yeah, but so so the

2352
02:22:30,360 --> 02:22:33,680
Speaker 1: red wine. Now, what's this? This is a this this

2353
02:22:33,840 --> 02:22:38,000
Speaker 1: Orange Shift Orange Swift machete. It's it's a cab blend.

2354
02:22:38,520 --> 02:22:42,279
Speaker 1: It's there. I like the way. I'm not a hundred

2355
02:22:42,280 --> 02:22:45,280
Speaker 1: per cent sure. I think it's from correct. I believe

2356
02:22:45,320 --> 02:22:50,440
Speaker 1: it's cab and Um Sara. I think it's cabin Sara Blake.

2357
02:22:51,360 --> 02:22:54,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. I believe it's a cab Kevin and Sara.

2358
02:22:56,160 --> 02:23:00,240
Speaker 1: But you know, uh, Rang Swift. They make some great wines.

2359
02:23:00,280 --> 02:23:06,840
Speaker 1: They have the machete, they have the abstract Palermo Italy. Okay,

2360
02:23:06,920 --> 02:23:11,600
Speaker 1: well that's that's that's the only cabinet that Orange Swift made.

2361
02:23:12,320 --> 02:23:15,360
Speaker 1: All the rest of the cat blends. They make some

2362
02:23:15,480 --> 02:23:19,240
Speaker 1: great wines and if you go to um their their

2363
02:23:19,320 --> 02:23:25,200
Speaker 1: spot in Napa, it's like stuff. You know, it's like

2364
02:23:25,280 --> 02:23:28,199
Speaker 1: you when you and it's not like the other spot.

2365
02:23:28,240 --> 02:23:31,280
Speaker 1: They it's like the club. They got music blasting and

2366
02:23:31,560 --> 02:23:34,039
Speaker 1: you know, chicks in their drunk the ship not coppers

2367
02:23:35,560 --> 02:23:42,080
Speaker 1: in Nappa alright, but it's not. Yeah, it's with you know,

2368
02:23:42,560 --> 02:23:45,600
Speaker 1: because their things on the strip, Okay, right on the

2369
02:23:45,680 --> 02:23:49,800
Speaker 1: strip and yeah yeah, I mean Orange Swift has has

2370
02:23:49,840 --> 02:23:52,640
Speaker 1: a great selection. I've never seen this. This is machete

2371
02:23:52,920 --> 02:23:55,760
Speaker 1: and they have the bottom. Yeah, but I mean it's

2372
02:23:55,920 --> 02:23:57,880
Speaker 1: they have a bump. It's all the same one. But

2373
02:23:58,000 --> 02:24:01,240
Speaker 1: they use different photos. There's a lot of different photos

2374
02:24:01,280 --> 02:24:04,560
Speaker 1: of different different positions. Let's make noise for king. Get

2375
02:24:04,600 --> 02:24:14,199
Speaker 1: the classes were there ordered nineteen forty two to kill correct,

2376
02:24:16,280 --> 02:24:18,720
Speaker 1: but we have never haked somebody or the red wine.

2377
02:24:18,920 --> 02:24:22,200
Speaker 1: And that's that's very classy that you can't. I mean,

2378
02:24:22,240 --> 02:24:25,520
Speaker 1: I'm just made. How did you become a classy Brooklyn nigger?

2379
02:24:28,600 --> 02:24:33,800
Speaker 1: I was born and I mean no, let me, I'm

2380
02:24:33,800 --> 02:24:39,000
Speaker 1: gonna tell you real study. I mean growing up, you know,

2381
02:24:39,160 --> 02:24:44,440
Speaker 1: I mean watching my pops and keeping my my pops

2382
02:24:44,600 --> 02:24:48,920
Speaker 1: is from a small town called Bowman, in South Carolina.

2383
02:24:49,760 --> 02:24:52,680
Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, you know from his younger

2384
02:24:53,040 --> 02:24:55,800
Speaker 1: you know age he grew up in New York, and

2385
02:24:56,200 --> 02:24:59,039
Speaker 1: I mean it's like, yo, when I was a kid

2386
02:24:59,120 --> 02:25:04,000
Speaker 1: in the seventies, I see this dude like line his

2387
02:25:04,160 --> 02:25:09,000
Speaker 1: shoes up snakeskin gate or line him up like he

2388
02:25:09,080 --> 02:25:12,560
Speaker 1: might line about six pairs of shoes and then put

2389
02:25:12,680 --> 02:25:15,640
Speaker 1: on a suit and then just go stand in front

2390
02:25:15,680 --> 02:25:18,960
Speaker 1: of each pair suit. It's moving down, just just dancing

2391
02:25:18,959 --> 02:25:21,480
Speaker 1: his way down in front of each pier to see

2392
02:25:21,520 --> 02:25:24,920
Speaker 1: which which pier mattered the suit. Like this type of

2393
02:25:24,959 --> 02:25:27,440
Speaker 1: ship I just see him do as a child, you

2394
02:25:27,480 --> 02:25:30,080
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I mean, I mean I've seen

2395
02:25:30,280 --> 02:25:33,280
Speaker 1: my pops go out in a two piece suit to

2396
02:25:34,160 --> 02:25:37,879
Speaker 1: drive off and had a flat tire and he had

2397
02:25:37,920 --> 02:25:39,600
Speaker 1: to change the tire and he changed it in the

2398
02:25:39,680 --> 02:25:42,600
Speaker 1: suit and got grease on the suit, and you know

2399
02:25:42,920 --> 02:25:49,840
Speaker 1: he stood then stared at the tire like a came upstairs,

2400
02:25:50,320 --> 02:25:53,440
Speaker 1: took a shower, and threw on a three piece suit

2401
02:25:53,840 --> 02:25:58,400
Speaker 1: like just to shoulder to tire like motherfucker. I you

2402
02:25:58,480 --> 02:26:01,480
Speaker 1: know I got more pieces. What I'm saying, I can

2403
02:26:01,520 --> 02:26:05,840
Speaker 1: put more ship on this. You ain't stop nothing, you know, yeah,

2404
02:26:06,000 --> 02:26:08,039
Speaker 1: and when I'm sing went back out south the three

2405
02:26:08,120 --> 02:26:11,320
Speaker 1: piece and stood in front of that same tire and

2406
02:26:11,520 --> 02:26:13,879
Speaker 1: stared out of the kid for about another two minutes

2407
02:26:14,360 --> 02:26:15,960
Speaker 1: and then got in the car and jove like. So

2408
02:26:16,280 --> 02:26:19,160
Speaker 1: it's like this type of stuff. It's like when I

2409
02:26:19,240 --> 02:26:23,000
Speaker 1: got in the hip hop um, you know, like I said,

2410
02:26:23,160 --> 02:26:26,040
Speaker 1: the Battle rapping, But once I heard Kas, I was like, oh,

2411
02:26:26,160 --> 02:26:28,640
Speaker 1: let dude, Grammars and cast amazing. So lyrically I wanted

2412
02:26:28,640 --> 02:26:31,440
Speaker 1: to be Cash, but image wise, I wanted to be

2413
02:26:31,520 --> 02:26:33,400
Speaker 1: my pops because I was just I just thought he

2414
02:26:33,520 --> 02:26:36,880
Speaker 1: was just that that dude. You know. So who's your

2415
02:26:36,959 --> 02:26:41,320
Speaker 1: favorite rapper from that era? If you if you could

2416
02:26:41,360 --> 02:26:43,560
Speaker 1: say there was one Cash? I mean when you mean

2417
02:26:43,640 --> 02:26:47,320
Speaker 1: from me growing up as a kid? Yea Cash? Yeah.

2418
02:26:47,320 --> 02:26:49,120
Speaker 1: I knew he was gonna say that. So who's your

2419
02:26:49,160 --> 02:26:55,440
Speaker 1: favorite rapper from from from the Middle era? Uh? You

2420
02:26:55,480 --> 02:27:00,560
Speaker 1: mean like Eli, No, No after after you guys like

2421
02:27:00,640 --> 02:27:07,080
Speaker 1: the Naso the Night, the Nights. Oh man, It's like

2422
02:27:09,879 --> 02:27:13,400
Speaker 1: I would I'd have to say it this way. I

2423
02:27:13,560 --> 02:27:20,760
Speaker 1: have to say that lyrically. Lyrically, my favorite was nas

2424
02:27:22,520 --> 02:27:30,040
Speaker 1: but my favorite MC was Biggie. It's like I like

2425
02:27:30,680 --> 02:27:35,080
Speaker 1: big Um because I just thought it was big. Thing

2426
02:27:35,200 --> 02:27:38,440
Speaker 1: was amazing, But lyrically I would have to go with

2427
02:27:38,560 --> 02:27:46,920
Speaker 1: Nash because you understand, it's like in my era. You know,

2428
02:27:47,080 --> 02:27:52,320
Speaker 1: I'm I come from where you know they put no no,

2429
02:27:52,480 --> 02:27:57,520
Speaker 1: no no no, like you know where you're coming to

2430
02:27:57,640 --> 02:28:02,200
Speaker 1: club and you fucking everything before well both for y'all,

2431
02:28:02,560 --> 02:28:12,760
Speaker 1: y'all sucking everything before include Hills because of cocaine before

2432
02:28:12,760 --> 02:28:15,880
Speaker 1: any include you because you because you caramels, so you

2433
02:28:15,920 --> 02:28:21,119
Speaker 1: can choose your side. You decide you life skin. You're

2434
02:28:21,120 --> 02:28:26,760
Speaker 1: not going caramel my life camel. It's like you to

2435
02:28:26,840 --> 02:28:30,480
Speaker 1: choose the side. You know it night skills popping the

2436
02:28:30,600 --> 02:28:38,879
Speaker 1: night dog skins popping them. You know, I'll come from

2437
02:28:39,000 --> 02:28:41,840
Speaker 1: ever where you know. You know y'all y'all getting actually

2438
02:28:41,879 --> 02:28:45,360
Speaker 1: just because y'all light skin. And it was like you

2439
02:28:45,440 --> 02:28:48,800
Speaker 1: know where your Westley's life stop that ship again when

2440
02:28:49,120 --> 02:28:50,840
Speaker 1: it was like me, but you see it was it

2441
02:28:50,959 --> 02:28:53,080
Speaker 1: was something like again like how he was talking about

2442
02:28:53,120 --> 02:28:55,360
Speaker 1: the flat top. It's something I had to talk about,

2443
02:28:55,400 --> 02:28:58,560
Speaker 1: something had to brand. I had to brand being dog skin.

2444
02:28:59,800 --> 02:29:02,560
Speaker 1: You what I'm saying, browner than Bobby, So want you

2445
02:29:02,560 --> 02:29:04,720
Speaker 1: to be my tender vhone. I only keep on, you know,

2446
02:29:04,840 --> 02:29:08,120
Speaker 1: saying dark skin and ship to make dark skins sex.

2447
02:29:08,360 --> 02:29:11,440
Speaker 1: Was that I go to work librics right there? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

2448
02:29:11,680 --> 02:29:14,240
Speaker 1: I get the job done. I had to keep you know,

2449
02:29:14,680 --> 02:29:17,640
Speaker 1: saying dark skin ship you know what that was when

2450
02:29:17,720 --> 02:29:21,560
Speaker 1: Niggas was like Kane is gone but he was. She

2451
02:29:21,720 --> 02:29:25,640
Speaker 1: was in there with just yeah, yeah, I'm not man like,

2452
02:29:27,200 --> 02:29:32,040
Speaker 1: I'm a young think. I'm like, no, that that's for you.

2453
02:29:32,200 --> 02:29:34,440
Speaker 1: You were making a lot of money back there at

2454
02:29:34,520 --> 02:29:39,440
Speaker 1: that point. You got the job done. Absolutely, I mean

2455
02:29:39,480 --> 02:29:43,520
Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely, it was. It was fun like because do

2456
02:29:43,640 --> 02:29:46,000
Speaker 1: you think because I feel like you was like the

2457
02:29:46,080 --> 02:29:50,840
Speaker 1: first person to have like commercial success where people no

2458
02:29:51,440 --> 02:29:56,960
Speaker 1: no for you though llo and who didn'y Okay, okay,

2459
02:29:57,240 --> 02:30:00,400
Speaker 1: I understand that, but both of those Okay, l L

2460
02:30:00,720 --> 02:30:04,920
Speaker 1: was like skinned for people purposes and then Hudini was

2461
02:30:04,959 --> 02:30:07,560
Speaker 1: a group. So you was like the first dark skin

2462
02:30:08,640 --> 02:30:14,360
Speaker 1: Brooklyn guy. Yeah, okay, look at that. Yeah, that looked

2463
02:30:14,400 --> 02:30:18,360
Speaker 1: at like the king of hip hop and it's just like, yeah,

2464
02:30:18,640 --> 02:30:21,320
Speaker 1: I mean not to see that. She, like I said,

2465
02:30:21,480 --> 02:30:24,520
Speaker 1: that was something that I had to create, the whole

2466
02:30:24,560 --> 02:30:30,040
Speaker 1: dog skin thing. So now going back to Biggie, he

2467
02:30:30,200 --> 02:30:32,080
Speaker 1: took it to the next level. And see that's what

2468
02:30:32,240 --> 02:30:34,520
Speaker 1: this thing is all. You know what I'm saying, It's

2469
02:30:34,560 --> 02:30:37,320
Speaker 1: all about you know what I'm saying. What you know? No, no, no,

2470
02:30:37,560 --> 02:30:39,560
Speaker 1: it's like you know, like you know, okay, you learn

2471
02:30:39,640 --> 02:30:41,440
Speaker 1: this from here, okay, and then you take it to

2472
02:30:41,480 --> 02:30:44,720
Speaker 1: the next level. You learn from your predecessors and you

2473
02:30:44,760 --> 02:30:46,840
Speaker 1: take it to the next level because like you know,

2474
02:30:46,920 --> 02:30:49,199
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I made this dark skinned thing sexy.

2475
02:30:49,959 --> 02:30:58,120
Speaker 1: But my man Big said, however, yeah blacks, Ever, however

2476
02:30:58,920 --> 02:31:01,280
Speaker 1: I stay because it was like, yo, I lotch You know,

2477
02:31:01,560 --> 02:31:06,000
Speaker 1: I was in Birmingham, Alabama at a club and seeing

2478
02:31:06,160 --> 02:31:12,520
Speaker 1: this crispy, fat black dude at the bar, chilling with

2479
02:31:12,680 --> 02:31:19,360
Speaker 1: a cougie sweater on fasach shaped shades and to even

2480
02:31:20,080 --> 02:31:23,160
Speaker 1: just put the stamp on, the food stamp on he

2481
02:31:23,480 --> 02:31:29,200
Speaker 1: at the board doing the Biggie bop. You know, I'm

2482
02:31:29,280 --> 02:31:32,160
Speaker 1: just and chicks is digging him. So it was like,

2483
02:31:33,000 --> 02:31:41,000
Speaker 1: be made fat dude sex symbols the fat dude the same. Yeah,

2484
02:31:41,440 --> 02:31:45,200
Speaker 1: but Big perfective. First you took it to the next level.

2485
02:31:46,520 --> 02:31:49,440
Speaker 1: And yeah and pun that's another dude that was But

2486
02:31:49,520 --> 02:31:51,160
Speaker 1: you know, all that time you talk, that's my first

2487
02:31:51,200 --> 02:31:56,000
Speaker 1: time meeting him. You know. I was talking to Chris

2488
02:31:56,080 --> 02:32:01,960
Speaker 1: about that because no rivers my sons. I was telling

2489
02:32:02,080 --> 02:32:07,720
Speaker 1: him like, um that uh. When I when I met him,

2490
02:32:08,080 --> 02:32:10,240
Speaker 1: like he was just being funny. He was like, oh

2491
02:32:10,320 --> 02:32:12,440
Speaker 1: ship man, yo, big daddy, can't you bring the kids?

2492
02:32:14,840 --> 02:32:16,560
Speaker 1: That ship had me crying and left because it was

2493
02:32:16,640 --> 02:32:20,600
Speaker 1: like and honest, it was it was video John Blade

2494
02:32:20,680 --> 02:32:24,240
Speaker 1: video because it was like I've always been a pun fact.

2495
02:32:24,320 --> 02:32:30,760
Speaker 1: When I first heard him, I was like, finally, finally,

2496
02:32:31,720 --> 02:32:36,160
Speaker 1: somebody give him my man g wrap his props, you know,

2497
02:32:36,200 --> 02:32:38,200
Speaker 1: because I could I could hear the g rapp and

2498
02:32:41,080 --> 02:32:44,800
Speaker 1: then to see his videos and see that, like, yo,

2499
02:32:45,680 --> 02:32:48,880
Speaker 1: I don't want my ship just not like it was

2500
02:32:49,160 --> 02:32:52,080
Speaker 1: entertained and it was fun. I'm like, oh, he's gone,

2501
02:32:52,560 --> 02:32:56,440
Speaker 1: he's gone punk. When I saw like when I saw videos,

2502
02:32:56,480 --> 02:32:58,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh he's gone. Forget him. I'm like, yeah,

2503
02:32:58,560 --> 02:33:00,520
Speaker 1: he's he's he's mad. It goes back to the humor

2504
02:33:00,640 --> 02:33:06,480
Speaker 1: thing you were saying. But he was, yeah, Beach, You're

2505
02:33:06,520 --> 02:33:08,800
Speaker 1: the first thing I ever met you. When I walked

2506
02:33:08,920 --> 02:33:14,280
Speaker 1: up and I'm I'm such a super fan and I

2507
02:33:14,360 --> 02:33:17,880
Speaker 1: woke up to King and Kane says to me, you know,

2508
02:33:17,959 --> 02:33:24,240
Speaker 1: I didn't like you, sir, thinking said to me, I'll

2509
02:33:24,280 --> 02:33:27,680
Speaker 1: never get it, said You'll didn't like you until in Rum,

2510
02:33:28,000 --> 02:33:31,040
Speaker 1: but I didn't wait for the until so I was like, damn,

2511
02:33:33,200 --> 02:33:42,000
Speaker 1: this is my from okay, and then you said, you

2512
02:33:42,120 --> 02:33:44,920
Speaker 1: know the album because mind you world Board came out

2513
02:33:45,320 --> 02:33:47,520
Speaker 1: and he said, I didn't understand you in the world report.

2514
02:33:48,000 --> 02:33:50,800
Speaker 1: But then and then and then n R E album

2515
02:33:50,879 --> 02:33:52,840
Speaker 1: came out and he was like, then I went back

2516
02:33:52,879 --> 02:33:56,080
Speaker 1: and I revisited everything, and now I understand who you are.

2517
02:33:56,920 --> 02:33:58,920
Speaker 1: But then you know what my reaction was because I

2518
02:33:59,080 --> 02:34:01,520
Speaker 1: was just like, so offend because you're like, mom, you're

2519
02:34:01,600 --> 02:34:04,400
Speaker 1: like my favorite rapper. So I'm like, and t J

2520
02:34:04,560 --> 02:34:06,440
Speaker 1: Swan is the man and the Juice School. You don't

2521
02:34:06,440 --> 02:34:14,120
Speaker 1: remember telling you that, you know? He was like this

2522
02:34:14,280 --> 02:34:18,200
Speaker 1: think is good exact word. He was like, he's good,

2523
02:34:18,680 --> 02:34:21,959
Speaker 1: he's good. You know you remember t J Swan? Oh ya,

2524
02:34:22,240 --> 02:34:24,680
Speaker 1: what happened to t J Swan? No, no, no, we're not.

2525
02:34:24,840 --> 02:34:31,400
Speaker 1: We're not leaving this conversation. I can. First of all,

2526
02:34:32,120 --> 02:34:36,400
Speaker 1: let me pay something to m. It's amazing that you

2527
02:34:36,440 --> 02:34:43,440
Speaker 1: remember that, but I'm not gonna understand what I'm saying.

2528
02:34:43,760 --> 02:34:45,520
Speaker 1: I knew you, you know, because it's like this, yere,

2529
02:34:45,560 --> 02:34:48,680
Speaker 1: you understand. It's like with me because of the wh

2530
02:34:48,800 --> 02:34:54,360
Speaker 1: my ears a trained, I'm always listening like lyrically first,

2531
02:34:55,600 --> 02:35:00,160
Speaker 1: and it's like when when when I'm I'm sitting there,

2532
02:35:00,200 --> 02:35:04,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, Yo, this dude got some ship with him.

2533
02:35:05,240 --> 02:35:07,680
Speaker 1: And then I'm watching the way people respond to you,

2534
02:35:07,800 --> 02:35:10,680
Speaker 1: and I'm like and it's like and I'm I'm like, yo,

2535
02:35:12,240 --> 02:35:15,440
Speaker 1: this is dope. This is dope, because you see, you

2536
02:35:15,520 --> 02:35:19,680
Speaker 1: gotta understand. It's like the element that you created was

2537
02:35:19,800 --> 02:35:25,720
Speaker 1: something that was so fucking needed. A special education resource froom, nondert, No,

2538
02:35:26,000 --> 02:35:28,840
Speaker 1: we understand me. We have special education special but we

2539
02:35:29,000 --> 02:35:32,280
Speaker 1: have resource frooms. Understand me. What you did was something

2540
02:35:32,360 --> 02:35:35,400
Speaker 1: that was so fucking needed because it's like this here,

2541
02:35:35,840 --> 02:35:40,880
Speaker 1: how tough can you be? How tough can you be?

2542
02:35:42,360 --> 02:35:46,000
Speaker 1: At some point? If you that goddamn tough, then you

2543
02:35:46,120 --> 02:35:51,280
Speaker 1: shouldn't be listening to music. Music is relaxing, Music is fun,

2544
02:35:52,920 --> 02:35:56,600
Speaker 1: and you made it with the most thugged out tough

2545
02:35:56,800 --> 02:36:07,600
Speaker 1: nigga could enjoy yourself. And look, that's the reason why

2546
02:36:07,800 --> 02:36:10,680
Speaker 1: when I did my history right, one of my favorite

2547
02:36:10,800 --> 02:36:15,680
Speaker 1: artists was bis Monkey, not lyrics wise, not music content,

2548
02:36:15,840 --> 02:36:22,480
Speaker 1: but as far as having fun like this said, what

2549
02:36:22,560 --> 02:36:25,640
Speaker 1: are he said, He'll he'll stick a nose up his nose.

2550
02:36:26,200 --> 02:36:28,880
Speaker 1: Let's stick us fingure up his nose and put it

2551
02:36:28,959 --> 02:36:34,879
Speaker 1: on the basketball and the kid like that you wrote

2552
02:36:34,920 --> 02:36:42,640
Speaker 1: that letter. That's when that's when you know, I ain't

2553
02:36:42,640 --> 02:36:44,320
Speaker 1: know where I'm gonna deal with that. So when I'm

2554
02:36:44,400 --> 02:36:49,720
Speaker 1: righting him, I'll make sure I mentioned my asses everybody know.

2555
02:36:50,000 --> 02:36:53,360
Speaker 1: But that's the craziest thing was I had realten did

2556
02:36:53,440 --> 02:36:56,560
Speaker 1: my research, and I was like, I said, you know what,

2557
02:36:56,840 --> 02:37:01,560
Speaker 1: nobody has fun like bis Mark anymore like in this,

2558
02:37:01,920 --> 02:37:04,120
Speaker 1: in this, in this, in this day and time, and

2559
02:37:04,200 --> 02:37:06,720
Speaker 1: nobody don't have fun like I'm probably the only MC

2560
02:37:07,480 --> 02:37:11,760
Speaker 1: that inventeds what Bismarck represented like he just had fun

2561
02:37:13,879 --> 02:37:16,240
Speaker 1: and anybody laughed at him and they tried to make

2562
02:37:16,280 --> 02:37:18,480
Speaker 1: fun of him. And I don't give a funk if

2563
02:37:18,520 --> 02:37:20,000
Speaker 1: you laugh at me and try to make fun of me.

2564
02:37:20,200 --> 02:37:22,880
Speaker 1: I'm representing the hip hop And then but you you

2565
02:37:23,120 --> 02:37:26,640
Speaker 1: you you you you you you really bridge the gap

2566
02:37:27,160 --> 02:37:30,360
Speaker 1: and you you did something special. Thank you, I mean,

2567
02:37:30,400 --> 02:37:34,480
Speaker 1: because it's it's it's it's like, yo, you're having fun,

2568
02:37:34,800 --> 02:37:37,760
Speaker 1: You're got a dance track, you're sitting there. What what what? What? What?

2569
02:37:37,959 --> 02:37:42,320
Speaker 1: What the chicken? What? What? What? What? But but you

2570
02:37:42,600 --> 02:37:45,440
Speaker 1: and you're spitting gangster stuff. But it's it's in a

2571
02:37:45,600 --> 02:37:51,959
Speaker 1: party type flow. Goddamn like you you you you were

2572
02:37:52,040 --> 02:37:55,200
Speaker 1: gating a whole new lane. You're making the toughest making

2573
02:37:56,000 --> 02:38:01,200
Speaker 1: whatever you're taking it right now, change the subject before

2574
02:38:01,240 --> 02:38:05,440
Speaker 1: everybody stop capting. Wonder what I'm doing? Ok right there, God,

2575
02:38:05,879 --> 02:38:08,640
Speaker 1: it's okay. Have you ever looked at rap and you

2576
02:38:08,959 --> 02:38:12,680
Speaker 1: you was disappointed at one point? Like like, I mean,

2577
02:38:13,160 --> 02:38:16,760
Speaker 1: maybe it's the error right now or where because at

2578
02:38:16,800 --> 02:38:18,320
Speaker 1: the end of the day came. We can't take it

2579
02:38:18,360 --> 02:38:21,440
Speaker 1: away from the fact that you're you're you're, if not

2580
02:38:21,760 --> 02:38:25,800
Speaker 1: the king, you're one of the kings. So there's a

2581
02:38:25,840 --> 02:38:28,560
Speaker 1: lot of people who can't have opinions or nowadays hip

2582
02:38:28,640 --> 02:38:32,400
Speaker 1: hop or middle hip hop or or later hip hop,

2583
02:38:33,040 --> 02:38:36,680
Speaker 1: but you're, fortunately it's one of them people that can

2584
02:38:36,720 --> 02:38:40,640
Speaker 1: have an opinion on any version of hip hop. Have

2585
02:38:40,840 --> 02:38:43,720
Speaker 1: you ever looked at hip hop? Was just like damn

2586
02:38:44,320 --> 02:38:50,560
Speaker 1: was ashamed at one point? Yeah? What what point was that? Um?

2587
02:38:53,560 --> 02:38:59,720
Speaker 1: Right now? Right about what I mean, It's like, let

2588
02:38:59,760 --> 02:39:04,280
Speaker 1: me just say this, I think that there are so

2589
02:39:04,560 --> 02:39:15,640
Speaker 1: many talented artists out there right now, um J Cole, Logic, Logic, Kendrickson,

2590
02:39:17,640 --> 02:39:23,920
Speaker 1: Um Rhapsody, Rhapsity Car. There's so many um um m, mom.

2591
02:39:25,480 --> 02:39:30,640
Speaker 1: Really know she's not news. I mean, you know, she's

2592
02:39:30,680 --> 02:39:33,880
Speaker 1: still shining. But I mean, as far as the new generation,

2593
02:39:34,040 --> 02:39:36,440
Speaker 1: there's so many out there's there's there's a lot out here.

2594
02:39:38,640 --> 02:39:44,400
Speaker 1: What's this calm calm, John Connor, No West what's a

2595
02:39:44,440 --> 02:39:51,400
Speaker 1: little Joey badass west Side Gun? But you see, here's

2596
02:39:51,480 --> 02:39:55,640
Speaker 1: my thing. There's a lot of other artists that's out

2597
02:39:55,760 --> 02:40:01,800
Speaker 1: here that's shining. And I mean, and I wish them

2598
02:40:01,920 --> 02:40:09,240
Speaker 1: continue to success. Right. I don't wanna hear that um

2599
02:40:10,920 --> 02:40:16,320
Speaker 1: little Yati or little what's it a little? I don't

2600
02:40:16,320 --> 02:40:20,640
Speaker 1: want to hear they broke and you know they fucked up.

2601
02:40:21,720 --> 02:40:25,080
Speaker 1: I want to, you know, know that they're safe and

2602
02:40:25,200 --> 02:40:28,840
Speaker 1: they still making money. I mean, I ain't gonna lie

2603
02:40:28,879 --> 02:40:31,600
Speaker 1: to you. There was a time, you know, the late nineties,

2604
02:40:32,040 --> 02:40:35,520
Speaker 1: you know, thanks to motherfucker's like you, that ship got

2605
02:40:35,560 --> 02:40:38,240
Speaker 1: sucked up for me, you know what. I'm sadcuse was shining.

2606
02:40:39,080 --> 02:40:42,160
Speaker 1: So you fell out some hard times, yeah, but you

2607
02:40:42,240 --> 02:40:45,680
Speaker 1: know it came back around and everything is good. And

2608
02:40:45,920 --> 02:40:49,320
Speaker 1: you know, if that came knowledge of you know, you

2609
02:40:49,400 --> 02:40:52,120
Speaker 1: don't know where you want to put your money and

2610
02:40:52,560 --> 02:40:56,080
Speaker 1: the right thing, you know what I'm saying. So it's

2611
02:40:56,200 --> 02:40:58,640
Speaker 1: like with the young casts today. I want to know

2612
02:40:58,760 --> 02:41:01,080
Speaker 1: that they're going to shine and that, you know, even

2613
02:41:01,120 --> 02:41:04,320
Speaker 1: if they career don't last as long as you know,

2614
02:41:04,560 --> 02:41:08,760
Speaker 1: as mine or as yours or whoever, that they can

2615
02:41:08,840 --> 02:41:12,359
Speaker 1: still be, you know, make money and do something lucrative.

2616
02:41:12,959 --> 02:41:14,960
Speaker 1: You know, I don't want to hear the stories about

2617
02:41:15,040 --> 02:41:18,120
Speaker 1: them going bro or where they now he's you know,

2618
02:41:18,200 --> 02:41:20,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it. I want to see

2619
02:41:20,120 --> 02:41:23,720
Speaker 1: them shine. So I wish there was that bridge where

2620
02:41:23,760 --> 02:41:26,800
Speaker 1: we could connect with them, you know, because I don't

2621
02:41:26,800 --> 02:41:32,840
Speaker 1: want your spot light. Look, I love going into a

2622
02:41:32,920 --> 02:41:37,320
Speaker 1: supermarket and someone big day. He came right, well, I

2623
02:41:37,400 --> 02:41:39,760
Speaker 1: drew up off your music man, you said, hey, good

2624
02:41:39,760 --> 02:41:42,200
Speaker 1: to me. I love that ship. I wouldn't want you

2625
02:41:42,320 --> 02:41:47,720
Speaker 1: in the supermarket screen trying to now I can't get

2626
02:41:47,800 --> 02:41:52,280
Speaker 1: the shot I need to. I gotta leave now. I

2627
02:41:52,440 --> 02:41:54,640
Speaker 1: like the piece of similarity that I have. I enjoy it.

2628
02:41:55,760 --> 02:41:58,600
Speaker 1: So my life is good. I don't want your spot

2629
02:41:59,200 --> 02:42:01,800
Speaker 1: I don't want to make that return to the top.

2630
02:42:02,520 --> 02:42:04,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I'd love to make it, you know, another album.

2631
02:42:04,959 --> 02:42:07,800
Speaker 1: You know that's something that they were. The people would appreciate,

2632
02:42:07,959 --> 02:42:09,600
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, that would be cool. But I

2633
02:42:09,680 --> 02:42:13,640
Speaker 1: don't need to be who I was in I did

2634
02:42:13,720 --> 02:42:16,680
Speaker 1: that and it was fun. I was ain't coming home

2635
02:42:16,720 --> 02:42:22,680
Speaker 1: to my family now beautiful, that's what I like. But

2636
02:42:23,879 --> 02:42:27,040
Speaker 1: what I did back then was amazing, and I'd love

2637
02:42:27,120 --> 02:42:29,120
Speaker 1: to tell you how I did it, give you the

2638
02:42:29,160 --> 02:42:31,720
Speaker 1: blueprint so you can do it and walk that walk.

2639
02:42:32,360 --> 02:42:36,480
Speaker 1: M I'm not your enemy. I'm your friend. This is

2640
02:42:36,560 --> 02:42:40,039
Speaker 1: my message to the younger generation. Regardless of what any

2641
02:42:40,080 --> 02:42:42,600
Speaker 1: mighty tell me. I'm not your enemy. I'm your friend.

2642
02:42:42,920 --> 02:42:44,920
Speaker 1: I sit and chop it up with you. I'll tell

2643
02:42:44,959 --> 02:42:48,480
Speaker 1: you what's really good, how to be what you need

2644
02:42:48,560 --> 02:42:51,040
Speaker 1: to be, how to separate yourself from the bullshit and

2645
02:42:51,240 --> 02:42:54,920
Speaker 1: establish yourself as a start. You know what I'm saying.

2646
02:42:55,480 --> 02:42:59,280
Speaker 1: And you don't have to put me on nothing. You

2647
02:42:59,280 --> 02:43:01,160
Speaker 1: don't have to put me on one single track. You

2648
02:43:01,160 --> 02:43:04,320
Speaker 1: don't owe me nothing. I don't want nothing from you.

2649
02:43:04,879 --> 02:43:11,440
Speaker 1: Was that I was value, wasn't Jake? Yeah? Yeah? He

2650
02:43:11,879 --> 02:43:17,960
Speaker 1: always old, dirty bastard, positive k shy him and everybody else.

2651
02:43:18,080 --> 02:43:24,840
Speaker 1: I fun wouldn't throughout my career. Real nigga king with

2652
02:43:25,040 --> 02:43:31,840
Speaker 1: King stands for again. Oh King, Nobody, nobody King agiatic,

2653
02:43:32,360 --> 02:43:43,720
Speaker 1: nobody tell you something better? Uh? Things you did? I

2654
02:43:43,760 --> 02:43:52,160
Speaker 1: remember running around? Uh uh. I was born in seventy seven,

2655
02:43:52,640 --> 02:43:54,200
Speaker 1: but I used to run with a dude name hit

2656
02:43:54,280 --> 02:43:59,600
Speaker 1: Hard Talk hare Tad had eight nine. We had a

2657
02:44:00,000 --> 02:44:04,720
Speaker 1: at Jetta with the white convertible top and the white

2658
02:44:04,840 --> 02:44:10,320
Speaker 1: cream seats in there, and motherfucking the vanilla pine trees.

2659
02:44:10,520 --> 02:44:17,080
Speaker 1: You know, the ship, the air freshen Us, And that's

2660
02:44:17,160 --> 02:44:20,480
Speaker 1: all we would do. They just run around from a

2661
02:44:20,640 --> 02:44:24,240
Speaker 1: d eight eight ninety. Let's just run around. Listen to

2662
02:44:24,320 --> 02:44:26,959
Speaker 1: your music. And the fact that I could come here

2663
02:44:27,600 --> 02:44:31,920
Speaker 1: with you tonight and honor you and salute you and

2664
02:44:32,040 --> 02:44:35,720
Speaker 1: tell you face to face, man and man that you're

2665
02:44:35,760 --> 02:44:43,040
Speaker 1: the man, your guy that helped raise probably ninety five

2666
02:44:43,560 --> 02:44:45,360
Speaker 1: of people in this building because they got people like

2667
02:44:45,440 --> 02:44:47,840
Speaker 1: Twin and they you see that stermoid twin. Look at

2668
02:44:47,879 --> 02:44:52,800
Speaker 1: the difference, can see that stermoid twin. That's another twin

2669
02:44:53,200 --> 02:44:57,720
Speaker 1: And you helped raise us. And there's nothing more that

2670
02:44:57,840 --> 02:45:00,440
Speaker 1: we want to do is to continue to port you.

2671
02:45:01,080 --> 02:45:04,200
Speaker 1: And when you're going toll you hit me and here

2672
02:45:04,320 --> 02:45:06,800
Speaker 1: fin up, let us talk about it, let us blow

2673
02:45:06,879 --> 02:45:11,840
Speaker 1: it up, because there's there's there's a lack in our society.

2674
02:45:11,920 --> 02:45:14,680
Speaker 1: And when I say society, I mean hip hop, meaning

2675
02:45:15,000 --> 02:45:18,640
Speaker 1: that when a person gets of age, they want to

2676
02:45:18,640 --> 02:45:21,680
Speaker 1: treat them like milk and have an expiration day. And

2677
02:45:21,800 --> 02:45:25,119
Speaker 1: I gotta be the opposite of that. I gotta use

2678
02:45:25,240 --> 02:45:31,879
Speaker 1: my power like Eminem use his power recently to refute racists,

2679
02:45:32,879 --> 02:45:36,640
Speaker 1: and he used his white privilege to fight racism. I

2680
02:45:36,720 --> 02:45:41,279
Speaker 1: gotta use my quote unquote privileges to still be relevant

2681
02:45:41,320 --> 02:45:45,120
Speaker 1: to show people why I'm relevant, because there's people before me,

2682
02:45:45,959 --> 02:45:48,320
Speaker 1: and there's people who pave the way that I respect,

2683
02:45:49,200 --> 02:45:51,840
Speaker 1: and then I'm that will always be about me. To me,

2684
02:45:53,120 --> 02:45:54,840
Speaker 1: I don't give a funk what I do. I could

2685
02:45:54,879 --> 02:45:56,920
Speaker 1: never be Big Dad he can. I don't give a

2686
02:45:56,959 --> 02:45:58,840
Speaker 1: funk what I do. I could never be slicked right.

2687
02:45:58,920 --> 02:46:00,280
Speaker 1: I don't give a funk what I do. Can never

2688
02:46:00,360 --> 02:46:02,160
Speaker 1: be Rock Him, I could never be Ep m D.

2689
02:46:02,640 --> 02:46:07,080
Speaker 1: You guys are what help pave the way for me.

2690
02:46:07,879 --> 02:46:11,080
Speaker 1: So as long as I got this platform, you motherfucker's

2691
02:46:11,080 --> 02:46:16,040
Speaker 1: will always be above me in that saturation because we

2692
02:46:16,240 --> 02:46:20,240
Speaker 1: love you and we're gonna continue to motherfucking represent all

2693
02:46:20,400 --> 02:46:29,040
Speaker 1: legends right here right, I don't I don't give a

2694
02:46:29,160 --> 02:46:31,640
Speaker 1: funny about ratings for now. We don't give a fun

2695
02:46:32,000 --> 02:46:34,160
Speaker 1: This is what we me and this motherfucker right here

2696
02:46:34,240 --> 02:46:37,440
Speaker 1: shout out to do you see his bed is very destructive.

2697
02:46:39,000 --> 02:46:42,320
Speaker 1: What the funk he wants to do over him just

2698
02:46:42,440 --> 02:46:46,320
Speaker 1: for men? Offer them just for men were trying to

2699
02:46:46,360 --> 02:46:49,240
Speaker 1: get just for men ads. He don't give a funk.

2700
02:46:49,360 --> 02:46:51,080
Speaker 1: He's just like, I'm just gonna be who I am.

2701
02:46:51,879 --> 02:46:54,680
Speaker 1: And that's you know what. I was just in d C.

2702
02:46:55,760 --> 02:47:00,240
Speaker 1: Last week for Donnie Simpson, for the fan of sight

2703
02:47:00,879 --> 02:47:06,360
Speaker 1: the Betes. Yeah, you gotta go to Eddie LeVert. Ruth

2704
02:47:07,720 --> 02:47:09,600
Speaker 1: told me that I need to get get me some

2705
02:47:09,760 --> 02:47:17,640
Speaker 1: just from that. You seventy who nine got to be

2706
02:47:17,720 --> 02:47:23,720
Speaker 1: like by seven p fool of nobody. He should he

2707
02:47:23,800 --> 02:47:27,040
Speaker 1: should slick died and slick to the fry six of

2708
02:47:27,120 --> 02:47:30,360
Speaker 1: the side. I mean, I mean listen before you no, no, no,

2709
02:47:30,520 --> 02:47:34,280
Speaker 1: it's like that. Keep in mind, I mean who had

2710
02:47:34,560 --> 02:47:38,560
Speaker 1: a shop up here line and bed than Gerald LeVert

2711
02:47:39,360 --> 02:47:44,039
Speaker 1: had that Beijing. I think Joel LeVert was just Joe.

2712
02:47:44,200 --> 02:47:46,840
Speaker 1: Wasn't that old Joe? You know Joe was young when

2713
02:47:46,879 --> 02:47:49,040
Speaker 1: he passed. Hey, Joel, wasn't that old. I think that

2714
02:47:49,200 --> 02:47:54,600
Speaker 1: was just a bother nothing. Beijian didn't existed, Yeah, ain't

2715
02:47:54,640 --> 02:47:56,840
Speaker 1: didn't existence. I feel like, I feel like I can't

2716
02:47:56,840 --> 02:47:59,240
Speaker 1: got a Bobby Brown story before you get out of here.

2717
02:47:59,720 --> 02:48:03,600
Speaker 1: You of body Brown story. Bobby Brown. I mean, I

2718
02:48:03,720 --> 02:48:07,440
Speaker 1: got a whole bunch of Bobby brother. You know, you

2719
02:48:07,480 --> 02:48:12,680
Speaker 1: know that we're here for Body Brown. Give us, give

2720
02:48:12,720 --> 02:48:18,080
Speaker 1: us the best one. Give us that was. I mean, nah,

2721
02:48:19,600 --> 02:48:29,600
Speaker 1: stop doing this, you don't do that. I'll give you

2722
02:48:30,959 --> 02:48:35,360
Speaker 1: my most mature Bobby Brown, stuffy I've never heard of.

2723
02:48:37,360 --> 02:48:47,480
Speaker 1: You haven't anybody Brown stories. Wendy Wendy Williams party and

2724
02:48:47,840 --> 02:48:51,600
Speaker 1: we were performing. This was the year that Trey songs

2725
02:48:51,680 --> 02:48:55,280
Speaker 1: that just came out, and me and Bobby was performing

2726
02:48:55,320 --> 02:49:00,320
Speaker 1: for Wendy Williams party. And you know, Pridate, we're over

2727
02:49:00,320 --> 02:49:04,400
Speaker 1: in the v I p just kicking it and I

2728
02:49:04,560 --> 02:49:08,560
Speaker 1: had like a great mint and I had it, you know,

2729
02:49:08,720 --> 02:49:12,480
Speaker 1: sitting up on this thing behind me, and some dude

2730
02:49:12,800 --> 02:49:16,000
Speaker 1: came and sat up on the thing on my men

2731
02:49:17,800 --> 02:49:21,640
Speaker 1: and he just they're just chilling. But I didn't see him.

2732
02:49:21,800 --> 02:49:23,360
Speaker 1: You know, I'm you know doing what I do. I

2733
02:49:23,400 --> 02:49:29,519
Speaker 1: didn't even see him, Bobby saw him, and Bobby just snaps.

2734
02:49:31,840 --> 02:49:35,280
Speaker 1: So I come over there like yo, you know, he like, YO,

2735
02:49:35,480 --> 02:49:39,680
Speaker 1: motherfuck up on your music. And dude, it's like, you know,

2736
02:49:40,000 --> 02:49:42,640
Speaker 1: I apologize, I'm not. I'm like, you know, no, no, no,

2737
02:49:42,800 --> 02:49:45,040
Speaker 1: no worries, no worries, don't want about it. And I

2738
02:49:45,200 --> 02:49:48,440
Speaker 1: moved it, push a little further back up in the

2739
02:49:48,600 --> 02:49:52,800
Speaker 1: corner and love not like that. And Bobby just like, Yo,

2740
02:49:54,440 --> 02:49:58,720
Speaker 1: the funk happened to you? Man, You're cool with that.

2741
02:49:58,879 --> 02:50:05,840
Speaker 1: You You're just gonna let that it bron like Bobby Man,

2742
02:50:07,560 --> 02:50:13,039
Speaker 1: we've grown man now. Man, you know I don't feel

2743
02:50:13,040 --> 02:50:16,640
Speaker 1: like fighting in the club over men coat. You don't

2744
02:50:16,680 --> 02:50:25,240
Speaker 1: want to let it up, all right? Neg? Yeah? He

2745
02:50:25,360 --> 02:50:28,400
Speaker 1: was like I neg. You know, it's like I don't

2746
02:50:28,440 --> 02:50:30,760
Speaker 1: know how if you know, Bobby, if you're right with them,

2747
02:50:31,240 --> 02:50:35,120
Speaker 1: Bobby wild boy Man, wild boy, wild boys, give home

2748
02:50:35,200 --> 02:50:39,000
Speaker 1: me the beats, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Bobby's raiding

2749
02:50:39,040 --> 02:50:43,080
Speaker 1: at his hands over my coat, his coat, my coat,

2750
02:50:43,440 --> 02:50:45,880
Speaker 1: Bobby reading his hands go. And it's like that's what

2751
02:50:46,040 --> 02:50:49,840
Speaker 1: I like, I always be because it's like we've always

2752
02:50:49,879 --> 02:50:53,840
Speaker 1: had so many good times and I am automot normally

2753
02:50:54,240 --> 02:50:56,840
Speaker 1: wild ass ridiculous times, but I mean this is just

2754
02:50:56,879 --> 02:51:01,360
Speaker 1: one of movies like, yeah, I ain't fighting this motherfucker.

2755
02:51:02,959 --> 02:51:05,600
Speaker 1: Let's be cool. Before we get about the hip cane.

2756
02:51:06,040 --> 02:51:08,080
Speaker 1: What's the one thing you missed about hip hop that

2757
02:51:08,200 --> 02:51:12,120
Speaker 1: you wish hip hop still just had? The one thing

2758
02:51:12,200 --> 02:51:20,440
Speaker 1: I missed about hip hop is variety. I really missed that.

2759
02:51:21,640 --> 02:51:26,920
Speaker 1: I really miss you know, you know, just people just

2760
02:51:27,640 --> 02:51:31,000
Speaker 1: vibing out on so many different things for so many

2761
02:51:31,120 --> 02:51:37,040
Speaker 1: different reasons, you know, because I mean you had, you know,

2762
02:51:37,160 --> 02:51:42,880
Speaker 1: your audience that was fascinated by drugs and play a

2763
02:51:43,040 --> 02:51:46,520
Speaker 1: ship that want to rock their truck. Jury you had

2764
02:51:46,760 --> 02:51:50,520
Speaker 1: your audience that was fascinated by conscious stuff that wanted

2765
02:51:50,560 --> 02:51:55,000
Speaker 1: to rock another medallion's you know, and can't they close

2766
02:51:55,959 --> 02:51:59,240
Speaker 1: and things of that nature. You know. I mean it's

2767
02:51:59,280 --> 02:52:01,920
Speaker 1: like you know, you you you know, you had generation

2768
02:52:02,160 --> 02:52:05,720
Speaker 1: that you know with the East Coast where I mean,

2769
02:52:05,879 --> 02:52:08,520
Speaker 1: you know, it was like, uh, you know how we

2770
02:52:08,680 --> 02:52:12,800
Speaker 1: we we looked at easy eating them dudes as we're

2771
02:52:13,000 --> 02:52:18,280
Speaker 1: looking dude like we didn't we didn't we didn't understand that. Yeah,

2772
02:52:18,320 --> 02:52:19,840
Speaker 1: But you know then when I went to l A

2773
02:52:20,040 --> 02:52:23,320
Speaker 1: and I'm at a gas station and a fucking and

2774
02:52:23,400 --> 02:52:27,480
Speaker 1: a red feline suit. And I get approached by a

2775
02:52:27,560 --> 02:52:31,320
Speaker 1: bunch of crips. They don't, you know, blow my goddamn

2776
02:52:31,400 --> 02:52:34,920
Speaker 1: head off because I had a flat top. They didn't

2777
02:52:34,920 --> 02:52:37,840
Speaker 1: recognize me as big Dad. He came. One of the

2778
02:52:37,959 --> 02:52:41,720
Speaker 1: dudes said, Yo, he must be one of the New

2779
02:52:41,840 --> 02:52:45,920
Speaker 1: York you know, East Coast dancing niggas. That's what he said.

2780
02:52:46,520 --> 02:52:48,760
Speaker 1: He was one of the East Coast dancing niggers. Because

2781
02:52:48,760 --> 02:52:50,680
Speaker 1: I mean they had me. It was nothing I could do.

2782
02:52:51,480 --> 02:52:54,560
Speaker 1: I mean it was about ten twelve of them. They

2783
02:52:54,680 --> 02:52:57,840
Speaker 1: just swarmed on me out of at a gas station.

2784
02:52:58,040 --> 02:53:00,840
Speaker 1: I'm pumping gas. I'm out there and and like I'm

2785
02:53:00,920 --> 02:53:06,200
Speaker 1: like and like maybe like a rental bins balling pumping

2786
02:53:06,320 --> 02:53:11,680
Speaker 1: gas and read feline sweatsuit and crypt territory. You know,

2787
02:53:12,120 --> 02:53:15,040
Speaker 1: they had me. There wasn't nothing I could do. You

2788
02:53:15,080 --> 02:53:17,600
Speaker 1: remember we was that we was ball Hills. I don't

2789
02:53:17,640 --> 02:53:20,480
Speaker 1: remember exactly. I mean, yeah, I mean wherever I was. Yeah,

2790
02:53:20,520 --> 02:53:23,240
Speaker 1: I was like, they had me, you know, if they

2791
02:53:23,280 --> 02:53:25,280
Speaker 1: wanted me, I was there for the taking. I mean

2792
02:53:25,600 --> 02:53:30,880
Speaker 1: red felie sweatsuit, red felies and yeah, but they pulled them.

2793
02:53:31,320 --> 02:53:32,800
Speaker 1: They saw the flat top, and it was just like

2794
02:53:33,360 --> 02:53:35,600
Speaker 1: and they heard I guess I heard my slang like

2795
02:53:36,760 --> 02:53:39,040
Speaker 1: maybe you know, no, man, you know we're go ahead

2796
02:53:39,080 --> 02:53:41,840
Speaker 1: on me. He probably won them East Coach Dancing niggas,

2797
02:53:45,720 --> 02:53:47,960
Speaker 1: you know. But I mean it's like that's that's what

2798
02:53:48,200 --> 02:53:50,560
Speaker 1: That's what made it dope, because you know it's like

2799
02:53:50,840 --> 02:53:56,400
Speaker 1: you know, um, easy king te you know iced tea. Yeah,

2800
02:53:56,600 --> 02:53:59,840
Speaker 1: they all had you know, this story and hip hop.

2801
02:54:00,280 --> 02:54:02,760
Speaker 1: You know that was different than hours, man. I mean

2802
02:54:02,840 --> 02:54:07,200
Speaker 1: it was like that variety, that variety, ain't there no more? Man, everybody,

2803
02:54:07,360 --> 02:54:10,600
Speaker 1: It's like you turned the ready on. It sounds like

2804
02:54:10,680 --> 02:54:17,040
Speaker 1: a twenty four hour song a marathon, not a marathon.

2805
02:54:17,400 --> 02:54:19,200
Speaker 1: It sounds like a twenty four hour song, like the

2806
02:54:19,320 --> 02:54:24,400
Speaker 1: same song last for twenty four hours at once. All. So,

2807
02:54:24,520 --> 02:54:27,800
Speaker 1: do you think that is the best best I'm drunk

2808
02:54:27,879 --> 02:54:30,920
Speaker 1: now the best era hip hop? Do you think is? Like?

2809
02:54:31,120 --> 02:54:34,400
Speaker 1: What is the best era hip hop? In your opinion? No? No, okay,

2810
02:54:34,520 --> 02:54:38,879
Speaker 1: Like well he asked me earlier. I chose that late

2811
02:54:39,000 --> 02:54:42,080
Speaker 1: eighties as my favorite era favorite But you know, what

2812
02:54:42,080 --> 02:54:45,520
Speaker 1: do you think? I don't know, because you see that's

2813
02:54:46,360 --> 02:54:49,360
Speaker 1: it's like I got a lot of respect for the

2814
02:54:49,480 --> 02:54:56,040
Speaker 1: mid nineties as well, because Puffy did something amazing in

2815
02:54:56,160 --> 02:55:01,120
Speaker 1: the mid nineties. Because in the early nineties hip hop

2816
02:55:01,240 --> 02:55:05,200
Speaker 1: started to do this, it started transforming this whole gangster thing.

2817
02:55:05,240 --> 02:55:07,800
Speaker 1: When the West Coast started doing the gangster the East

2818
02:55:07,840 --> 02:55:13,000
Speaker 1: Coast started following into and everything became so gangster right,

2819
02:55:13,480 --> 02:55:15,440
Speaker 1: And it was like, you know, you go to a

2820
02:55:15,560 --> 02:55:18,520
Speaker 1: party like I hate it. Like I started flying to

2821
02:55:18,720 --> 02:55:22,520
Speaker 1: Chicago going to stepping sets to have a good time

2822
02:55:22,840 --> 02:55:25,680
Speaker 1: because I couldn't enjoy myself in was the most dangerous

2823
02:55:25,680 --> 02:55:28,480
Speaker 1: place for the planet. No, but I mean I was.

2824
02:55:28,600 --> 02:55:30,920
Speaker 1: I'm talking about you know, I mean probably even then too,

2825
02:55:31,080 --> 02:55:34,560
Speaker 1: but early nineties, I'll go to you go to a

2826
02:55:34,600 --> 02:55:36,920
Speaker 1: stepping set just to have a good time, because I

2827
02:55:37,000 --> 02:55:39,040
Speaker 1: go to the party in New York and it's like,

2828
02:55:39,600 --> 02:55:44,200
Speaker 1: you know, you look at using the crowd just no, no,

2829
02:55:44,400 --> 02:55:47,480
Speaker 1: nobody want to dance. Somebody's from screw phase and bought

2830
02:55:47,560 --> 02:55:49,360
Speaker 1: the head. I'm not I ain't come here for that.

2831
02:55:49,959 --> 02:55:53,680
Speaker 1: Chicks and chicks dressed like dudes. You know, nobody wanted

2832
02:55:53,680 --> 02:55:55,720
Speaker 1: to put no sexy ship on, like you know, like

2833
02:55:57,040 --> 02:55:59,400
Speaker 1: fucking your ass with no no, no, no band dan

2834
02:55:59,480 --> 02:56:09,320
Speaker 1: on ye, you're not doing a party. Yeah, yeah, it

2835
02:56:09,440 --> 02:56:12,200
Speaker 1: did nothing. You know. It's like I didn't get it.

2836
02:56:12,480 --> 02:56:14,480
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I didn't get it, but

2837
02:56:14,600 --> 02:56:18,200
Speaker 1: did hit this dude Puff. He takes like Biggie in

2838
02:56:18,320 --> 02:56:21,040
Speaker 1: the locks and he like, okay, I'll tell you what,

2839
02:56:23,360 --> 02:56:28,520
Speaker 1: good ahead, talk your gangster ship, but do it over

2840
02:56:28,600 --> 02:56:33,959
Speaker 1: this disco pete for me. So now all the people

2841
02:56:34,000 --> 02:56:36,320
Speaker 1: that loved all the thug stuff, you get to hear it.

2842
02:56:37,560 --> 02:56:40,200
Speaker 1: People who love the party got something to dance it.

2843
02:56:41,600 --> 02:56:45,160
Speaker 1: So he figured out a way to make the two

2844
02:56:45,360 --> 02:56:48,680
Speaker 1: mesh where you can be as gangs as you want,

2845
02:56:49,280 --> 02:56:50,640
Speaker 1: but the people don't want to have a good time

2846
02:56:50,680 --> 02:56:53,440
Speaker 1: at a party can still party. I never thought of

2847
02:56:53,480 --> 02:56:55,920
Speaker 1: it like that, you know. So I got a lot

2848
02:56:56,000 --> 02:56:58,840
Speaker 1: of respect for what Puff did for hip hop in

2849
02:56:58,920 --> 02:57:02,080
Speaker 1: the mid nineties is well, because he created some ship

2850
02:57:02,200 --> 02:57:05,640
Speaker 1: with It's like you got gangster rampers spitting their gangster

2851
02:57:05,760 --> 02:57:10,920
Speaker 1: ship over disco and club party beats. So it's like,

2852
02:57:11,400 --> 02:57:13,680
Speaker 1: you know, even though I may not be in a

2853
02:57:13,760 --> 02:57:15,680
Speaker 1: move to stick a nigger up or sell sell a

2854
02:57:15,720 --> 02:57:17,880
Speaker 1: bunch of keys or none of this stuff, that's beef

2855
02:57:17,959 --> 02:57:21,880
Speaker 1: rocking like a motherfucker. You know what I'm saying, so

2856
02:57:22,080 --> 02:57:26,039
Speaker 1: I mean that I thought it was great too. Okay,

2857
02:57:26,120 --> 02:57:32,880
Speaker 1: let's make some nest. Yeah, man, I can't thank you enough.

2858
02:57:33,480 --> 02:57:36,600
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2859
02:57:37,200 --> 02:57:39,240
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2860
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2861
02:57:42,520 --> 02:57:45,160
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2862
02:57:45,600 --> 02:57:51,280
Speaker 1: um well drink never have so few old so much

2863
02:57:51,360 --> 02:57:57,560
Speaker 1: to so many. But yeah, respect man, everybody, and this

2864
02:57:57,720 --> 02:58:11,880
Speaker 1: motherfucker make some noise for big Daddy. I gotta interrupt

2865
02:58:11,920 --> 02:58:14,240
Speaker 1: for a second. Make sure everybody out there knows where

2866
02:58:14,240 --> 02:58:16,480
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2867
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