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Speaker 1: the community. You know, I'm saying through his gloves on

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Speaker 1: and beat him and just beat the people down in

428
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Speaker 1: the community. He did. You look at you look at

429
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: the reenactment. He was on the first ones to come

430
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: through the door. Well his funeral happened. Man, we man

431
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: that that might man might be on YouTube. We shook

432
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: that motherfuck up. So we see our politics we we

433
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: we don't We're not just coming to do just brace nationalism.

434
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,919
Speaker 1: We exposed Uncle Sam Man sambo the green go out

435
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 1: of what I'm saying, whoever it be, I love it.

436
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 1: Why Why do you think that the UM, the police Department,

437
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 1: and and the UH State's attorney, a district attorney has

438
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: so much animosity towards you, and you and and and

439
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 1: the chairman. It was an animosity, It wasn't an animosity.

440
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 1: The US government, the FBI has said the Black Panther

441
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 1: Party was the number one threat to the internal security

442
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 1: of this country. That's why the Vietnamese War was going on.

443
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: The Black Panther Party is the number one threat to

444
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: that survival program organizing people to fight for self determination

445
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: control over their own black lives. It was jay Ed

446
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: Hoover out, their NBI director, out to destroy the Black

447
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 1: Anther Party at the end of nineteen sixty nine, and

448
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: the majority percent at the point tell pro activity during

449
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 1: the sixties was directed at the Black Anther Party. They

450
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 1: didn't dislike us. They wanted to destroy any fight or

451
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 1: any appearance or fight back or self determination for black people,

452
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 1: for oppressed people, and we was it. Let me tell

453
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 1: your team with you, comrade, that may be that may

454
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: be some some aspects of some local p don't like them,

455
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: so on and so forth were the shot callers. I'm saying,

456
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,199
Speaker 1: it's not an absolute like something they don't like us.

457
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,719
Speaker 1: We must CHAMPI Fred said, revolution is a scientific art

458
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: that must be perfective. We scientific art that must be perfective.

459
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: Even the Black Panther Party you have, you have some

460
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: the pathers you to turn called napes, jack and nips.

461
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: These are my folks who don't get Jack and naps.

462
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 1: Jack and nape is the ones who really don't care,

463
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: don't don't like the state or like the people. What

464
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying, it's like like like you know in the

465
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: movie uh Police Academy or dude came in with the

466
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,719
Speaker 1: guns with the guns. So just see, we can't get

467
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 1: called in absolute just because someone's engaged. It's like the state,

468
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 1: they study our community. They know they have a psychological profile,

469
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: you know, which they know what used to put in

470
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: our community. With what I'm saying that all that don't

471
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: know in the artists. You know, it's a psychological profile,

472
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So deal is not it's

473
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: not just, but it's governed. Again, we can't diminish it

474
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: to just this person or you hate and you trip

475
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: you attorney General John Mitchell, Former General John Mitchell. That's

476
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: that's for the that's for Chicago, United States. This is

477
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 1: important Like this, he said, this is ninet eight, the

478
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: Black Panther Party us be destroyed by in the nineteen

479
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: nine the former directed FBI Jaga Hoover, not not the

480
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: local police chief. You know what I'm saying this, and

481
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: so it's important, it's important to putting them put in context.

482
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 1: This they said, the Black pend the party gotta be

483
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: destroys represented. Jack was the Black pad the party represented.

484
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: The number one threat to the internal security of the

485
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: United States is that of the Civil War. People can't

486
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: grasp that. See all this miss this missiformason about Jagger.

487
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: Whoever going at the mafia. The FBI did not the

488
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 1: mafio so even existed. Luciallo was not lucky this this

489
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 1: is important to put this in contact. Luciallo was an

490
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 1: international snitch. You know, something's going to Mussilani. They needed him,

491
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But the misinformation come down.

492
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: We started saying, like, oh man, you got hat this cold.

493
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: The mafia don't snitch on each other. Uh, Sam Giocanno,

494
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 1: you're the same Giocano. Sam kind of won't him and

495
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: John Kilo with the same woman. His daughter wrote a book.

496
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: She said, listen, before my daddy got the building good,

497
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: his security, his dutito was getting down with my mama.

498
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 1: You know you're I'm saying it won't notice this called

499
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: the Moretto. What I'm saying the Dan the deal is Jagger,

500
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: who was a simply a district attorney. What put Jack

501
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:12,239
Speaker 1: who on the map? The attack on Gov? DeFi put

502
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 1: him on the map. J was a see once we

503
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: see we when we used to see we're so damaged.

504
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 1: I tell you you would say you could say Professor

505
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: bowls O, Reverend such and such and Minister U. E. P.

506
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: Newton second neate. Somebody say, ui, we don't even see

507
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 1: along his locked up. A lot of guys said, man,

508
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: your organzation child, Hell no, I'm proud about it. Chairman

509
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 1: Fred was a deftly chapman State of ILLINOI because the

510
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: black the Black Panther Party said that the people said

511
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: that it wasn't other state saint's organization. Cham was her husband.

512
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: They jelly Bizz and mother's gonna get married by the state.

513
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, See a lot of people talk about

514
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: being a white man initiative. Then they go do for

515
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: the state to say invalidate us. This is revolutionaries in

516
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: theory and in practice. You know what I'm saying consistently,

517
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: you know, see the terms everything the groundbreaking going against

518
00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: the ground. I don't say, I don't wanna they're gonna

519
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: pick can choose with this ship. You know what I'm saying,

520
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: every man, listen, Before he was chairman, Fred his FBI

521
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: fount when he's fourteen years old. This documents and this

522
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: this documented he took the junior in people with seven

523
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: three D members and seven half month time period when

524
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: they called in his house. Grandparents have to be a

525
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: wide tip the DC Bureau. There have to be. I

526
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: thought was a type old. They said me, he can't

527
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: be this young fourteen years old, Adrian. He twelve years

528
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: old and to my psychological profiles as a child, his

529
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: older brother there's three siblings you all. I'm saying here too,

530
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: he had two siblers. His older brother go to grand

531
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: go to school. The white boys beat him up. He

532
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: not even in school. We talk about chairming free to

533
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: my Fred took a wagon for the bottles over there

534
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: and get up with them boys asses as a child.

535
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: She say, they there's a psychological profile. Man. He twelve

536
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: years old mayor Rose Park, the governors of the suburb,

537
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: suburb with the white The white folks had out there.

538
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: They had some foo facilities and everything. So black children

539
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: look over and see this ship one of the black

540
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: swimming pools facilities for no black teomen and go swimming.

541
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: Twelve years old. He take this sich she she grew up?

542
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: Was she telling me the story? She said, Man, I

543
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: remember this, she said, because she come at the Hampton house.

544
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: He turned to the music in the house she grew

545
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: up in. She said, he comes get us. He gets

546
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: these sticks and cardboard boxes. I see, yeah, branches sticks.

547
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: They go to the police station, make these posters demanding

548
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: of uh swimp pool facilities. The police story tick As

549
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: kind of stopped down. He picked the take as coins

550
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: throwing back and the police at twelve years old. The

551
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: states they studied this. Here I'm saying. Then the high

552
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: school he want to provide o East High School. The sister,

553
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: the lady who was married to Bob Johnson, former CEO

554
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: b uh cam uh for white Nah, they're going for

555
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: the home. Come to queen. She technically she posed the wanting.

556
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: They said, no, this is a no girl. We can

557
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: say this is the white girl gonna win this. He

558
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: challenged that, they said, Okay, go to concession. Both of

559
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: y'all gonna become your home. Come to queens. I'm saying,

560
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: at the age of nineteen, you come the deputy chapman

561
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: for the state of Illinois, the Black Panther Party. But

562
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: it's important I go through different cities and location something

563
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: like all type of snake coote about this legacy. See,

564
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: a legacy is more important in your life, and we

565
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: can't take a legacy is more important in your life,

566
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: and the legacy of the Black Panther Party remains under attack.

567
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: I go places like you call this the Black Panther Party.

568
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: This is a revolutionary organization. Even said, well, man, I'm

569
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: a devil Colorado one time. Catch my. Oh man, you

570
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: shouldn't be tripping chairman. You know what they mean. Well,

571
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: I saw what you're saying. Bro myself and something to

572
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: go to the north and do so a lot, do

573
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: my praise. Huh So you offended, ain't you? Is this

574
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: that circularly a chain? He said, yeah, I said, don't

575
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: just pay my religion. Revolution my religion. What I'm saying,

576
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: it's checks and balances to this ship. You don't go.

577
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: You got a Chevrolet car, you gotta kind of say, man,

578
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: give me a four piece of No. No, man, it's

579
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: a structure. Your black Panther had a structure platform and

580
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. On the movie set, there

581
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: was a lot of struggles went down with that. You

582
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: know what we listen, Judent Black, you know how how

583
00:31:55,720 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: how accurate was the depiction of your family and the

584
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: bench that it? Man, We first of all, we come

585
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: through the door, recognize the premises we're dealing with. Let's

586
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: putting conto to my Hollywood. That's that's first. Let's first

587
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: start out there. You know what I'm saying. When you

588
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: when you when you you going to this scud yourself

589
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: and say okay, what's city? When you know, then you

590
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: then you you put in the context which to on Hollywood.

591
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: Let's be up front about this. Now you know what

592
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So you know you know some of the

593
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: initial titles they proposed outing for that. Come on. Jesus

594
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: was my homeboy who said this said to go, I'm serious, man,

595
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: not seriously. Huh what Google googling Google and you and

596
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: you who make man listen, you wanna go back before

597
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: that falls? What was falls? What was too? Doing a

598
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: movie on on on the chairman. Some cats in the

599
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: Black Panther Party know it's talking het me closely, some cats,

600
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: And that's a big differ. So I said, when I

601
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: say cats in the Black Panther Party knows it was

602
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: Black panthers. They told him, said man that man, Son,

603
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: don't play man. He backed up with for Green the Grass.

604
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: He came with the butler. Man, Listen, I'm come from

605
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: the cloth. I'm twelve years old. Give me out. I'm

606
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: twelve years old. I heat I know gas in our house,

607
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: twelve years old. They bought a book deal with her man.

608
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: We're based on this church on plane she she says,

609
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: no girls. I said, well this if this happened, did

610
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: he get turned off? She says it so no goal.

611
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying, that's the principles that I know about.

612
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: It's motherfucker's whore, not even related to us, who aren't

613
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: even blackpen the party who being propt up this man legacy.

614
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying, we all cut no corners and to our

615
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: food clothes doing doing doing maybe listen, man, we know

616
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: we were ran up on set today and thing before man,

617
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: you know saying to a god love, I'm doing this

618
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: like they still shoot Traiman Fred Tombstone right back to

619
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: this day every year. They they ain't forgot they clear

620
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: right now. So back to the moons. We had to

621
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: go to a lot of battles, and not just for

622
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: not in no subjective way. Like you never heard me

623
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: say the police killed my daddy. You go through all

624
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: my speeches, you never heard me say that. What you

625
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: have heard me say is the United States government a

626
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: government a sad stay the chamber free. You know what

627
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying? That puts damn right. I told my brother,

628
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: I see man, see subject quote me on this. This

629
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: is one of my quotes. Subjectivity starts one's ability to

630
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 1: make proper summations. Subjectivity stufts one's ability to make proper submmations.

631
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 1: For what I'm saying, I failed fourth your English of

632
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,439
Speaker 1: high school till in now school. Mr Griffin, he said,

633
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: you keep on saying us saying we yeah, yeah, he

634
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: wouldn't at the principal, Mr Old Danny, I said, we

635
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 1: still ain't going with that. You know what I'm saying,

636
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: the Panther Party stood up for the people. See a

637
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 1: lot of people do. Man, I don't play this ship.

638
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 1: That's I respect that. A lot of people we we

639
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: we we we we. We had to suffice with our

640
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 1: call no disrespect the trails, freewale dynamic. He checked that.

641
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: He checked that coach pretty well. It was about him.

642
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: I'm telling some motherfucker's who stood up for us. That's

643
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 1: a different thing. It's important to distinguish that, you know

644
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Why are you thinking that was show?

645
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: The only movie I really one of the movies I've

646
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: seen that really impacted me about llo slavery a movie

647
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: called Crazy sound Book of Negroes. It showed black men

648
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: and black women and tandem get down. It showed some

649
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: who would technically free going back and fight for some

650
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: other saying. See, it's one thing that showed me a

651
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: mother who get down for therself. That's all I'm saying.

652
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: This organization sacrificed, you know. Uh speaking of that, I

653
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Speaker 1: mean I'm a good head on put it on record

654
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: right now. Another Chicago and who I believe that gets

655
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: down for himself and other people listen to him and say, oh,

656
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: he's a genius, he's great, He's this and needs that.

657
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: Kanye West. Uh, I personally believe that Kanye West, everything

658
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: he does is self serving. And the reason why I

659
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 1: say that is because he frequently finds opportunities to throw

660
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: black people under the bus, and then a few weeks later,

661
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: a few months later, when he needs something. He got

662
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: a new album outest he's dropping a new line of

663
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: us or something. He said something cool, and everybody say,

664
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Speaker 1: you see that he's a great guy. This and that.

665
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: I believe in. I believe that all of us ain't

666
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: none of us perfect. We've all seeing and falling shot

667
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: at the glory of God. But when you exhibit a

668
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: certain pattern of behavior, then that's who you are. I mean,

669
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: you make a mistake once, cool, you make a mistake twice,

670
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 1: but then three, four, five, six times, and you just

671
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: have this it becomes pathological. So my question to you

672
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: is what are your thoughts on Kanye West. It's a

673
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: ronic we have. We have a discussion, that's a run.

674
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: We have discussion. This morning we watching the drink Chaps thing.

675
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: I just said, I said, I said, been do the

676
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Speaker 1: crazy James And I think it's okay. I'm agree with

677
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Speaker 1: what you just said, this about about the mistakes, because

678
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: my man woman guy said, his mama said, if one

679
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: person called your horse, you can dismiss it. Some people

680
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: call hold you might want to get your saddle. So

681
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: I'm the deal is. I think first of all, the

682
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: writing beyond the wall a lot of individuals, not the organizations.

683
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: Sellout is one of the most overused terms in our community.

684
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: Selling is one of the most overused terms. Not community

685
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: moms comfort don't let you know what they own? No, no,

686
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: they ain't what they really mean, do the dope. That's

687
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And you say the consistency sound real

688
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Speaker 1: big about structure, you know what I'm saying, And people

689
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: would tell you what they own, and people like just

690
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: one time George Bush sing was on Nightline and he's

691
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: trying to tell copies, said, man, listen, Firm of Action. Man,

692
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: you know what, we canna shut that down. Benjamin Hooks

693
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Speaker 1: for inp came on saying the President say he's gonna

694
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Speaker 1: reconsider Bush. They telled you hear what I'm said, Man,

695
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: it's a wrap. Man, I get back to you later. Man,

696
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: he cut looks a couple don't trying to re rewarded.

697
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: These individuals tell you that that like you used to

698
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: the time when the records will be released and they

699
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: take lots of our people try without just wait for

700
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Speaker 1: a minute. You know what I'm saying, Like Obama was

701
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Speaker 1: for in it, but photo president. You's know what I'm saying.

702
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Speaker 1: We it's hicle we when we we we protest them.

703
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: Got people is upset with us. May be cool, y'all

704
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: gonna be on the first Black center to said, man,

705
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: we all Kevin gonna be the first black Marsha. This

706
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: isn't dress. The issues is not people. It's around. But

707
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: they tell you, they they tell you it's like it's

708
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 1: like in the community. You can you your your survivance skills.

709
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: They be like this here you said you do psychological

710
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: profiles in the community. You don't say it's certain people say,

711
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: oh man, dude, they't know I'm saying he can. We

712
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: can murder the mouth. Paths called the murder the mouth.

713
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Speaker 1: You still like, no, I do they't. I don't know,

714
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: no smoke, so they don't. Kanye West, these guys tell

715
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Speaker 1: you what their own You're what I'm saying, other people,

716
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Speaker 1: We'll see man, And I tell you, we told deprived

717
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: or something. You know, you know what I'm saying, mothers

718
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: start having mirages like maybe there's water. You know what

719
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. You show your

720
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: making a name to be. It's the mama you raised.

721
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: The question is the question is the question? The question is?

722
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: The question is on the community. I see my No,

723
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: it's going to sell her. If you go to the

724
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 1: pest though, you at yourself some questions, what the people

725
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: you're going to the stove and just say no. Some

726
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: pit boys said, man, we don't know people you're about

727
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: goldfish because you don't saying you Goldfien's two dollars two

728
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: f fivellars. Okay, you're to go. And you go home

729
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: and throw a leash on their motherfucker and you try

730
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Speaker 1: to think why it ain't barking the question on you.

731
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying, these people, no other community wouldn't even hold

732
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: up is leading ship. They did And if you're Malcolm

733
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,240
Speaker 1: mix one time right and the guy said, well, Jackie

734
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Speaker 1: Robinson disagrees with Joe position about violence was whoa whoa

735
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Speaker 1: whoa whoa whoa whoa We don't be quote no, no

736
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Speaker 1: Bob hoping, no man on my road to you for

737
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: your people. You could your math wife, you would come

738
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: out to the movie theater. I wonder what Boots for

739
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: just thinks about nuclear weapons in Korea? What they do that? No,

740
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: no white, the white they're not here, but they not

741
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: not is their political supposed persons they give us, they

742
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: give us certain in the profile who they give us.

743
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. They switching ta you around.

744
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: It's other another and you could in certain arenas athletic

745
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: entertain you couldn't pull it and wrong done this wrong,

746
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,919
Speaker 1: you know, saying it's just a strategy and then don't

747
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: get me wrong. So we had what we call the

748
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: code of culture. Code of culture. We all, we all

749
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: this is to a certain point of unity, you know

750
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like even back to Kanye West Borders Bookstore,

751
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 1: Borders Books of North chicog Scott. A lot of people

752
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,959
Speaker 1: think he just but when he's said by George Bush

753
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: or he had a vision, No, no, no, about eight

754
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 1: ours four, what happened? Touchdown? Brother, I'm gonna molique yourself.

755
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: You say he up there? That's college said he up there.

756
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: We touched down. We have a conversation with Kanye I

757
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 1: lay out to him about give us the history about

758
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: burned burned, that definitely burned that devils with ira A.

759
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,399
Speaker 1: I was Republic Army. She banned for the United States. Bam,

760
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Speaker 1: I touched on hunt Ireland. Mean she's a good person.

761
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Speaker 1: A theat the got the man New York gave out

762
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: the keys to the city and I've got a year war.

763
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: She turned the keys over to the Black Panther party.

764
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: She is in the Coward Mayor Daily Chicago. She said,

765
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: stop the car. He was involve in the sac and

766
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Speaker 1: she saint. She say't murder the assassination chamber free And

767
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 1: when she met me in Ireland, it's a museum called

768
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: Bloody Sunday about the already. She don't want to meet

769
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: me over there. She said how she said, a lot

770
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: of them you're doing the average that she said them softballs.

771
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: She said she didn't use another term. They see they

772
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: got any community too, that's trying. She used another term

773
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: in their community. She said, me me the tabant, I

774
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: go to the tabant sit down with she's I member

775
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: seeing you with a baby you had, but she said

776
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: you had this bullet on your like a necklace, a

777
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: bullet on your neck. She's I remember docks minister docs

778
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: sat you chamman for she remembered the title style in

779
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 1: the Black Panther Party. She said, we had the Irish

780
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: Republican Army. Well, y'all was so much reverence and respect.

781
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: I'm telling Kanye West this, this this story and Boarders Bookstore.

782
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: Before we say what we said about George George Bush,

783
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: I say there, they say, man, y'all, I say, not

784
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: putting them in an absolute See the deal is and

785
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: that's them to the war on the revolution, awards to

786
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: occupied armies, or you suit up and you booted up

787
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: and you get out to get out a revolution, you

788
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: gain the master participation of the mass of the people.

789
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: You've seen that you've seen in the Africa, You've seen

790
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: the Vietnam. You know what I'm saying. Hold she me

791
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: and y'all. Even the prostitute had to play a role.

792
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: They say that it was different from a prostitute. They

793
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: they what you are you talking about? When the prostels

794
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: get them in thiste to get up, stat man, we

795
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 1: make sure no American soulds get up in the morning.

796
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: It was a different from a bumbo bam. They were

797
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: training the beads to come out the bamboo sticks at

798
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: a certain time. You know what I'm saying. You're saying

799
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: with American soldier jack of their ammunition. That's what I'm saying.

800
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: You have to put stuff into politics time and all that.

801
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: And then you see black Stone Rangers, a supposed to

802
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: Black Peak Stoe Nation do the Chicago I'm I'm the

803
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,439
Speaker 1: real health of the Rainbow Corners. This is what you're saying,

804
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 1: Like Champan Fren We're gonna have Rainbow corners. He would

805
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: to gainst contested conditions. It's documented book up on Madison

806
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: down on Satday the Night Street by Johnny and Rice

807
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: talking about it. Where they have to be. I told

808
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: the vice lords, We'll give you sixteen Street. Stop the

809
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: Black Panther Party from opening Free Medical Center. Sixteen Street

810
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: Chairman Frey one of them brothers and sisters to a

811
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Speaker 1: point of unit. You get them when they worked the

812
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 1: Free Medical Center. There's one no kombay yashi is. Don't

813
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: get a twisted to the size of that disciples. They

814
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: get a public side. We're not real asked if you

815
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: know what's the Black Disciples. Due to the political edcation

816
00:42:58,440 --> 00:42:59,959
Speaker 1: we see in the Champan FRAI and black in the party.

817
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: Even at the government's own account. I'm gon quote a

818
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 1: lot of people don't blee you. And if you said

819
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 1: white folks said the government said it. There's a record

820
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,919
Speaker 1: thotho they called black on black crime. That's what I'm saying.

821
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: It was a different dynamic up the end. He was

822
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: this a different type of athlete. It was a different

823
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: type of climate, one of more fun. We're in a

824
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 1: fight for no mother, no quarterback on the football field.

825
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 1: The scriptles flip. What role are you playing with the struggle,

826
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: mam La, You're not with the paper the dog, white

827
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Speaker 1: the tail, tail and wag the dog. Streets make the

828
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 1: music music, don't make the streets. That's what I'm saying. Power.

829
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Speaker 1: What's powers? Were electoral politics? What's power upon it's the

830
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Speaker 1: fist up Newton, you know saying also get it's doctor

831
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Speaker 1: to dr eup Newton. But Mr Fit minister. People say,

832
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Speaker 1: power is the ability to define phenomena and make it

833
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Speaker 1: act and design matter. Power is the ability to define

834
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Speaker 1: phenomena and make an act and design matter. What is phenomenon?

835
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Speaker 1: And unusually think that could be scientifically explained m hm,

836
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Speaker 1: Reverend phenomena organizers put their into the ground soever Nat

837
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Speaker 1: turn and put it into the ground on the plantation.

838
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: So it was phenomena doing that at that time the church.

839
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: M hmm. You alluded to the artist role in society.

840
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Speaker 1: You have artists like uh lead quietly most deaf. You

841
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Speaker 1: have j Electronica, even Ericabai do who have h and

842
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Speaker 1: public enemy who have attributed uh their success, uh you know,

843
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Speaker 1: and some of what they've done, you know, to your father,

844
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: And how do you feel about that compared to uh,

845
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: you know, they're as as much as these people are

846
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: known and as much shine as they get, they don't

847
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:59,280
Speaker 1: get as much shine as those artists that don't speak

848
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 1: revolution Larry uh, you know, don't have don't have those

849
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: type of lyrics. You know. What do you say about that?

850
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: You know? And what does that say about us as

851
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: a society that these people who are who appear to

852
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: have the people's interest at heart, uh don't get as

853
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: much shine as those who seem to not have any

854
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: interest in the people, seem to be self serving. Let

855
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 1: me let me let me first shout up, so the

856
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 1: uh conventional conventional conventional definitions. Know, I'm saying your name

857
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: is an artists who I got, you know, many, many

858
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: of which I have a lot of love respect for.

859
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: In fact, we're someone doing a movie on chamber freshman

860
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: years back. We have most death y'all seen Basic slated

861
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: to play Chamber Free Lady Rags don't say even shout

862
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: us see she's gonna play my mother, don't. We're working

863
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: on this some years back. But let me say this

864
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 1: the definite like when I talk about these titles, also

865
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: we gotta apply this and art and everything else, not

866
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 1: I mean the definition of quote unquote conscious artists or

867
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 1: there that is not the gate the different you know

868
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying forces because everything like even zone capt be

869
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 1: reactionary or it may comfort unconventional definitions, not just not that.

870
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: Don't close our ear off to say this. Ain't you

871
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,919
Speaker 1: know this in a bad way? You know what I'm saying,

872
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: because because it's really a state sanctioned definition say okay,

873
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: this is your good music, this is your bad. You

874
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. There are class contradictions, there are

875
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: points of unity that that that that existed all arenas

876
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 1: it may not come in up like like even if

877
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: the profanity do we in the street through then the

878
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: community we used the Black Panther Party position was that

879
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: profane times called for profane terms. So we don't want

880
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: to dismiss a lot of forces who deal is we

881
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: draw the line, not that on the language you. We

882
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 1: draw the line as with Lennon said of the Rush

883
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: Revolution and the said how use you the state and

884
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 1: how the state use you? That's what I'm saying. That's

885
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 1: the that's the line demarcation. What that obviously, well I

886
00:46:58,360 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 1: don't I look at it this way. You know, I'm

887
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: agoor capricorn. That's cool and certain to read and read

888
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: us at the final the final end of dominic demarcation

889
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: is the state, and the state studies there. They know

890
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: who can push the agenda. You know what I'm saying.

891
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 1: We call it dying the bag. You know what I'm saying,

892
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,959
Speaker 1: Dana bag is going to bank and bank. They're getting

893
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 1: the money real quickly. They're not tripping because it's going

894
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 1: so far. A lot of organizations, individuals, the state gives us.

895
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 1: I mean that literally, it's down to back the like

896
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 1: they get you charged up. Yeah yeah, state laying back

897
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: tripping and they don't any trip. You know what I'm

898
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 1: saying so dearly is we have these fours. We tek

899
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: my concrete tangible support. Like I'm backstage two tholeven uh

900
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: nilcy Hustle. She gets the Storyboutnssy Russell nits Russell bate

901
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: the joker bout said, man, he comes this, lady said

902
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: months prey to van Leers across the chess he can

903
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: embellisce that she you know, bullets closed her chest. But

904
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 1: he talked about hate doing the money for the Breakfash program.

905
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm backstage in California Sea. So the nil nil nilcy

906
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: Hustle was not seen as one of those cold conscious rappers,

907
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. However, I'm a little way

908
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: up so I see him, So I see the necklace on.

909
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: I said, damn, man, now you listen, this is this

910
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: is the time casts way in the white Jesus thing.

911
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I said, Damn, here we

912
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: go again. So I get closer. Said, whoa, that's Malcolm

913
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: max On this on his chest. I said, we man

914
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: you for me, with Champions for me, with Champan freed happened?

915
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: He said, Champman free Hampton Junr. What sort of man

916
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 1: would I be finding? Who Champon free was what you say,

917
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: And then the dearest, we can't come with these closets.

918
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like the conscious or you

919
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That's that's that's strategic with us

920
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: because there's so many one time Chicago wock and flock

921
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: people doing the videos. So so I walk up. He said, whoa, whoa,

922
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: he said, whoa. He said, I knew, He said, I

923
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: knew I heard you be coming because I heard it.

924
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: He said, give me one minute. So that we called

925
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: his brother over there. So brother come over there and said, man, yeah, man,

926
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: well I'm you know, I'm big deal. Was like there

927
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: was Sunday out of coding, Sunday out of cooling. For

928
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: those who don't check him out, don't help political prisoners.

929
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: That's that's who was on New Jersey Time Turnpike with

930
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: the Solidge of Chord. That's they gun him up. He's

931
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: still we're still finding to get him out. You know,

932
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: they've been turn turned them down back to back. Clark squad.

933
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 1: This this this is the one who they even to

934
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 1: say talk Neil Armstrong, the one thing did claim supposed

935
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: uh Land on the moon for the United States Sunday

936
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: out of call that. He told him a geometry. He

937
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: still locked up right now, So the brother Tim see

938
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: all these the context clue. You know what I'm saying.

939
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 1: You watch you. So the brother Tim me, I was

940
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: locked up with Sunday out of cold. That's okay, he said. Man,

941
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: so we're talking. So they don't got a concert that night,

942
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 1: So I'll come back there. He said, Man, how you

943
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: been doing with this? How you be coming back to

944
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: the east, you know, back you know these constants talking

945
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: to different people. I said, I'm not dealing with this,

946
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: no purefied water. I gotta be the good, the bad,

947
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,760
Speaker 1: and ugly. You know what I'm saying. I'm a serving

948
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: to the people. A lot of people want to don't

949
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: want to want to cherry pick. You don't say give

950
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 1: me the conscious crew. You're not. No, we don't say

951
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: the deal that we are realist. We we we You

952
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: list the philosophical tool, a dialectical materialism, you know, say.

953
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 1: A lot of people against the Rainbow Coalition pack the

954
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,479
Speaker 1: party chairman frid Without there he was in the city

955
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 1: that was that was the top segregated city in the country.

956
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 1: Young patriots. You know what I'm saying. Dukes went with

957
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,399
Speaker 1: confet the flags, my fucking jackets. He was like, don't

958
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 1: talking to them, game members, chairman Fred and them deal

959
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,439
Speaker 1: with the people. You know what I'm saying now, people

960
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 1: want SEP to do with the chamber. Fred called intellectual masturbation.

961
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: Don't say much words in turn that sound good. You

962
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We the black in the party

963
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: where I'm I'm chilling back in the party, culs and

964
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: be clear on that. Come big about structure, marrying theory

965
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: and practice. Theory and practice, you know what I'm saying.

966
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: So that that's that's that's the your social practice reflects

967
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: where we at. So it's not y'all saying dealing and

968
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: the deal is the state knows that they staid. They

969
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: know you say they that a lot of people took

970
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: my man, they laved you know, any trip on this motherfucker.

971
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 1: You know I'm saying, they can they stay like a

972
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: dog train, like a dog breath. He could know you

973
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: all past it on this. This the motherfucking problem right here,

974
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So in our community we

975
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: get up to any heightening the country that turn. Check

976
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: the movie out, heighten the contradictions. The last so were

977
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: you satisfying with the movie. First of all, a revolutionary

978
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 1: is never sad to fine. Let me be very clear

979
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: with that. Now, however, we were able to put a

980
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: path of cub political pills and the Apple sauce. What

981
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying, we got more relevant information in there than

982
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 1: that serve passes at these books, has books has been

983
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: put out, you know what I'm saying. And also, let

984
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: me be very clear with this. Let's me that's clear

985
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,280
Speaker 1: what we're dealing with. In the words of Jack Nicholson,

986
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: the movie A Few Good Men, Hell of the Truth, mama.

987
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: How how how close was that depiction of the night

988
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: of the assassination uh in the movie to real life? Um?

989
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 1: Very close, very close. Now, I let me tell you

990
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: this too. I've seen the movie. I don't know how

991
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 1: many times, but I haven't seen it all the way

992
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: through because it's emotional and I have to get up

993
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 1: and pretend like I'm going to the bathroom or whatever.

994
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: But the assassination scene was, you know, very powerful, and

995
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: a lot of things in the movie. And how you

996
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: even said, um m, the actors that they had got

997
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: for the movie. I didn't realize how much I missed

998
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: the political comaraderie, the discussions that you have, you know

999
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 1: that me and the chairman had. Until I saw that movie,

1000
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 1: it hit me in the face, you know, because it

1001
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: was head back here. But I didn't realize how much

1002
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 1: I missed that, you know what I'm saying. And that

1003
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: was just uh like breathing. You know. Everything was political

1004
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,439
Speaker 1: and we had discussions and talks and Bee and all

1005
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: of that. In that movie brought a lot of that backwards.

1006
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: There's no perfect nothing, you know, but I think that

1007
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: movie did an excellent job. And I got to say

1008
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: that we had a dream team. You know, a lot

1009
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 1: of fights, a lot of battles, and we had Chairman

1010
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: Fred Hampton Jr. And myself. We were the only cultural

1011
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 1: consultants on the movie. He was at every stop. Yeah,

1012
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 1: he called me and said you gotta come up here

1013
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: because it was who was it Cleveland? And I'm like you,

1014
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: He said, you gotta come up here now because I

1015
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: go back home to Chicago, you know, because I'll be

1016
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: frustrated and this step. But it's constant battle. But I

1017
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 1: products everybody got it, no excuse nice free On the TV,

1018
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: Mark Clark was also killed that night. Right Mark Clark

1019
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: was defense Defense Captain Mark Clark from Puy, Illinois was

1020
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: also assassin fascinated. Yeah, we brewed with the terms what

1021
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: what we we understand that he was there and what

1022
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: kind of relationship did he have with with yourself and

1023
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: and chairman fred Man back Clark was was brilliant. He

1024
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: didn't do a lot of talking. You could you could

1025
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 1: see him watching people and looking at him and study.

1026
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:04,359
Speaker 1: He had the utmost respect. Jairman told him to stay

1027
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 1: it out, stay at our house. He was in from

1028
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:12,439
Speaker 1: uh uh Peoria, Illinois. But bar Clark, he would listen

1029
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: to people because you know me a lot of people

1030
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: talking sh it and ain't gonna do ship. You know,

1031
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: he was even in the party. He was looking at people,

1032
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: studyings with this said. He didn't do a whole lot

1033
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: of talking and um, what do you call who was

1034
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 1: you know, bravo, we're both or whatever they call it.

1035
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 1: Where he would study things that he would read and

1036
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: he would get out and participate in the programs because

1037
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,760
Speaker 1: everybody was called there there was a member of the party.

1038
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 1: So that we could tighten up the programs, the survival

1039
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: programs that were um we were mandated by the National

1040
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 1: Party to establish wherever we were breakfast programs, medical, senate, free,

1041
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 1: food givingway free, so many programs that you know, people

1042
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 1: take for granted. Down there was not in exist and

1043
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: we brought attention. Black Panther Party brought exist attention to

1044
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: this disease, sickle cell anemia that black people was banned

1045
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 1: from a record numbers. No nobody give a ship because

1046
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 1: it was black people were talked about. And the Black

1047
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: Panther Party began testing for sickle cell anemia eve before

1048
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 1: medical centers were established, and established medical centers UH and

1049
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 1: communities all over the country under the directed from the

1050
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: Black Panther Party. Wow Wow, and chairman Chairman recruited, said

1051
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: Chairman Fred Hampton recruited this young boy, but like he's

1052
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 1: about twelve years old. His first semester of school, he

1053
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: wanted to be a doctor the United first semester, you

1054
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: ain't doing no medical training. And he heard Chairman Fred

1055
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: speak and they talked. He left school during the Black

1056
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: to the privary Candid Devin, the Minister of Health to

1057
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: the Illinois chapter. Black Panther Party eventually went to China

1058
00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 1: and learned about agricuncture. When the shooting started that night

1059
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 1: in your apartment, how why exactly were you positioned, uh,

1060
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:13,399
Speaker 1: in proximity to Chairman Fred. We were in bed, yeah,

1061
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: right next. And how how did you manage to not

1062
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,839
Speaker 1: even not get hit with all of those all those

1063
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 1: bullets flying through through your room. I can't really tell you.

1064
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 1: But like I said before, the plaster was flying off

1065
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 1: the wall. They had, uh, they state game and later

1066
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: and they did these trajectories. He sticks, they stick at

1067
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: the wall to show you where the bullets of the

1068
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 1: bullets was paved at the head of the bed with

1069
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: Chairman Fressler. Our matches was evaporating like this. It was

1070
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: so fast, the bullets was just going in. And it

1071
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: was smoke y'all in there at the court. You could

1072
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: smell it. They came in and stood over Chairman Fred

1073
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: and assassinating. Put this in context too, This was not

1074
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 1: they this What's important to say that not the police,

1075
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: that the federal government, is that one of the Polish

1076
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 1: was exposed to be with the CIA. They had a

1077
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 1: floor plan. They had a floor plans of the diagram

1078
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 1: so detailed, so detailed they even knew a pack of

1079
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 1: cigarettes might likely be at a group of young brothers

1080
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: twelve years old. The unofficial security for the chairman. The

1081
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: y m c A came and got them and sent

1082
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 1: them out of town on a winter return. That's how

1083
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: detail this was. This is this did the y m

1084
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: c A officials no again back to us, said earlier

1085
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: they deal with motherfucker's the way we gotta struck the deal.

1086
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: Motherfucker's needed no motherfucking basis. When they when they the

1087
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: government had Bob won't go do it entertainment. They just said, listen, man,

1088
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,479
Speaker 1: we're gonna do the tet offensive viet Now what I'm

1089
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: saying we revolution. It's like a machine, the spark plub

1090
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 1: know the transmission doing. You know what I'm saying that

1091
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 1: you needed no basis. You said there was a different diagnamic.

1092
00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: There were certain people miss education. Lord Chapter change. He

1093
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 1: was placing the hole in could kind of jail. Another comrade,

1094
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: Black panther party. He was coming from Carbondale, you know,

1095
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 1: saying they pulled them over local polices. He said, give

1096
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: him meeting a bomb for a pistol. I'm like, damn,

1097
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: why is this going on? All these are different dynamics,

1098
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: but they're not calling everybody together. Said cool, come here,

1099
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: all go all together. Let me tell you all what

1100
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. That's what I'm saying. It's a machine.

1101
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: That's where That's what we have to struggle to understand.

1102
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 1: It's so when they let certain music come out, you

1103
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 1: know what saying they listen. They don't go to the

1104
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: radio programmers and say, listen, we want you to put

1105
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: drop all these all these propaganda bombs on these on

1106
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 1: these motherfucker's this morning Northfolk Railroad in Chicago. Excuse me,

1107
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: shout rack when I'm going my automatic weapons, getting the

1108
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 1: dogs open up for them, chortes to get them motherfucker's.

1109
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 1: They don't tell, they don't make the connection with them.

1110
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 1: At the same time that other than this song we

1111
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: get dropped out. It's a machine. That's some ch that's

1112
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: where the stopped that we can't. It's like we got

1113
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: this this lousion's personal. They come. No this unity now, No,

1114
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 1: that's man man, even within even within our our structure,

1115
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 1: it's certain forces you don't need to know. Basically, man

1116
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: needs to bam. When need you on point for this one.

1117
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 1: When they sent me out of town, I need myself,

1118
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: I need some somebody people on my security. Well I'm

1119
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 1: getting on the plane. Neither no basics structure. How did

1120
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: you feel, man, when when they came after you like

1121
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: they came after your father, when you stepped into the arena,

1122
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: when you decide I'm gonna do this, this is what

1123
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 1: this is my calling and next thing you know, you

1124
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 1: get hit with a robbery and murder charge and which

1125
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: by the way, you beat. How did you feel when

1126
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 1: you was going through that? They helped me? I not

1127
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 1: the state they attacks this. This is the modus oppernded.

1128
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: This had this ship go. You know what I'm saying.

1129
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 1: They they still like one time in the South Korea,

1130
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: if you got who's on the who's tenure, they had

1131
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: a they had a procedure when you think you've got

1132
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: the jail there, they're gonna keep your asking up for

1133
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: three generations. But they had a whole process with this ship,

1134
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 1: this state, this this machine. They know our profile for

1135
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 1: they know how to second like they was watching two

1136
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 1: pockets a child. You know what I'm saying, These motherfuckers

1137
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 1: like a dog, matt a dog breather. Man, it was

1138
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: certain things in my life. One time I choked the

1139
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: same but I just mentioned you. But in this education,

1140
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:15,479
Speaker 1: I'm in this high school one time right the school

1141
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 1: so I go to school. So the principal man, he

1142
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 1: all on TV to my all the great brooks that

1143
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 1: they're doing. And she like this, said, but I'm watching

1144
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 1: man till my coming to school. Ain't looking at me?

1145
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 1: What's going on? You? You turned in time? Me see me.

1146
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 1: I'm telling to some Fathom Party members. They last all

1147
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: years getting to tell you, man, Yes, the pants we

1148
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: took that school over the man, some black study program.

1149
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 1: I said, duh, at least I need to know this ship.

1150
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 1: You's know what I'm saying. It's a man. It's the

1151
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 1: the case that I was giving, one of the cases

1152
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 1: where they gave me eighteen years. They sapples, the five bomb.

1153
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 1: This Korean store Seaster on South South Chicago. When I'm

1154
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 1: at the station, they got all alphabets FB appolis. But

1155
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 1: I'm watching one dude he called the shots. I see

1156
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 1: who is this motherfucker? I got on on bond. I'm

1157
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 1: looking at the Black Panther Party newspaper BAM, same one.

1158
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: Sage and Joseph P. Grew was at He was involved

1159
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 1: in Lesions Justice. He was a vagance and chairman Fred.

1160
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 1: He was involved in the tapes back then. That's what

1161
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying, not his son him. They don't forget, they

1162
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 1: study us. You know, I'm saying, so certain things in

1163
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 1: my life that happened I completely put together, you know

1164
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But there was like not you tho us,

1165
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 1: like I'm just one to She laughed and she said,

1166
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 1: what did you call your mother's a mother? Comrade? This

1167
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 1: ain't no, this ain't no way to February, which, by

1168
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 1: the way, it is beautiful. I love the way that

1169
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 1: that exchange when you called and she called you the

1170
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 1: same way. You know, let's do the black this is

1171
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 1: this is a way of life. You don't see. It's

1172
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 1: second nature that I'm saying. It's automatically. I didn't grow

1173
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 1: up like all the police can even get to cut

1174
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 1: out the tree through the dope. Mama, Mama, what age

1175
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 1: did you start calling Fred chairman? Yeah? You you you

1176
01:01:55,640 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 1: You initially named him Afred Johnson, which, by the is,

1177
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 1: my dog was. It was it was Fred or something

1178
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 1: he got he looked in Chicago. You used to in

1179
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 1: shra in Chicago. You don't carry no I D because

1180
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 1: if you might have to be anybody. You know what

1181
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It was never his name. The pig and

1182
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 1: one of his court things, the dogs said he shouldn't

1183
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 1: use his name because people don't like him, don't like

1184
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 1: free in him, and he wouldn't get a free trial.

1185
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 1: Which the thing that the case was, the courts ist

1186
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 1: rig she ain't gonna get a fair trial, no way,

1187
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 1: because they don't want to be exposed to political What

1188
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 1: did you initially? What was his name at birth? Frederick

1189
01:02:55,280 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 1: ted Nathaniel Jake brand I grad school. Ain't laughing me,

1190
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 1: I still I ain't fresh to t J J. Wow. Wow.

1191
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: And at what point does the does the name switch come?

1192
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 1: When Nathaniel Jr. Was exposed as a goddamn informant with

1193
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 1: William O'Neil, I took that ship out of his name.

1194
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 1: I changed his name. Man. Man took me down. I'm

1195
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 1: gonna show he took me down there. Man man, listen,

1196
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 1: this politics is never developing. We got supposed to do

1197
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 1: what was what the well, let's hold no, nothing stayed

1198
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 1: stagny with this ship. She took me down there. Mother fucker. Man,

1199
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 1: I'm sure you ain't telling me mom take out about

1200
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 1: get this out your name? We can man see this

1201
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 1: ain't that no, motherfucker, This ain't no stagmership with the court.

1202
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 1: We can do name with your name. So so do

1203
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 1: you feel you feel that your name is more of

1204
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 1: a blessing of curse, blessing in the burden, blessing the burden.

1205
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 1: I got said in the poem one time, a lot

1206
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 1: of people don't know how does it feel to be

1207
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 1: sired by you? To be loved? Better people and sweat

1208
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 1: about it? You know who? I don't romanticize this year.

1209
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:18,479
Speaker 1: I mean one time about fourteen fifteen is a man. Dudes,

1210
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 1: he free have this on so I track them down

1211
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 1: like yesterday, okay, the long Jerry crew. I remember, I say, man,

1212
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 1: you're telling the cat you are the chairman Son. You

1213
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 1: see my brother, I'm Honorablelije Mohammed Soan, I'm chairman lay

1214
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 1: who was son? I'm chief my least I was say

1215
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 1: my man. I said, I don't think your mother had

1216
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 1: a relationship with you. That's what I'm talking about, you know,

1217
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 1: he said, Oh no, I said this man. I was

1218
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 1: actually hoping hoping you was. There's another sil so you

1219
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 1: can't catch half of this heat did come with this ship.

1220
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm in sitting first race, seeing seven istry police stations

1221
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 1: in one time, seven of us last name happening. The

1222
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 1: younger police said, which one of y'all you know is

1223
01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 1: connected to the Fred friend happened? So this ain't now,

1224
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 1: this is the price is right to come on down.

1225
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 1: So everybody, everybody required, you know, just sitting there. The

1226
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 1: older police coming to roll and said, man was to

1227
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 1: hold up man, you didn't got time to be back

1228
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 1: and forth. He pulled the foul catting out, pull the

1229
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 1: pitch out or the chairman. I'm the third one'r man

1230
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 1: right there, damn it. So he comes all romans, he

1231
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 1: comes with this ship man real talk. Yeah yeah, but

1232
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 1: I'm on it. I feel I feel quote me on this.

1233
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 1: I feel fortunate to fall for the treat of two

1234
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 1: freedom fighters. Absolutely absolutely, man mama. We we understand that

1235
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 1: Chairman Fred Senior was, you know, a very serious guy, revolutionary.

1236
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 1: But is there anything that you can share about a

1237
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 1: softer side of the chairman, because I know that all

1238
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 1: great men have a funny side or a softer side.

1239
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 1: Can you share something with us that we don't know

1240
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 1: about the chairman? First of all, he was a Franks

1241
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 1: even pull on some people. But uh, chairman thought he

1242
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 1: could dance. I'm from the West Side Chicago. I could

1243
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 1: dance right well. He used to go get me. It

1244
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 1: was a bar across the street called Rais and uh

1245
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 1: he said, go get him. He used because I'd be

1246
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 1: up in the office. Whatever he go give me, I'm

1247
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 1: all fregnant and stuff. He'd be swinging me around. I'm

1248
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 1: danced around him, making him look good. He could stand

1249
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 1: on that one foot you know. Hey, So Chairman Junior,

1250
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 1: when he was bored, said, damn, he can't catch no

1251
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 1: beat either. I can't catch a beat. A look it's

1252
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 1: going Yeah. He couldn't catch a beat because he was

1253
01:06:56,480 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: too big to making sure everybody else catch a beat. Beat. See,

1254
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 1: so you don't got some lessons someplace? He could step now? Yeah? Wow?

1255
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 1: How would you heard that? Right? Right? Yeah? When you

1256
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 1: when you came, uh, just just to put a bonus

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Speaker 1: thing like like the night. Let me say this, Chairmen,

1258
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 1: I keep texting. You're gonna have to make a decision. Man,

1259
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 1: I am. I know we're gonna make the God say

1260
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 1: men of earners, don't feel consequences. We're gonna We're gonna

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Speaker 1: or whatever I mean, if you want to go to

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Speaker 1: night at the marrow, um uh late late to night cool, okay,

1263
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Speaker 1: late to night night or cheap, cheaper whateverever. Cheapest to

1264
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Speaker 1: night to mom one weal cheapest o A hey, mama.

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Speaker 1: One last question about the night of the last question

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01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 1: maybe maybe one last question, maybe one last question about

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01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 1: the night assassination. When you came out, when you came

1268
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 1: out of the room and you know you have to

1269
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 1: walk through the line of the pigs or whatever. Um,

1270
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 1: at any point, did you think that they might try

1271
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 1: to actually take you out that night down in the kitchen,

1272
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 1: hung down in the kitchen. Yeah, yeah, but I'm talking

1273
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 1: about like like put bullets in it. I mean, did

1274
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:30,560
Speaker 1: you ever did you think that they might try to

1275
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 1: finish you off? Yeah? Because that's why I was making

1276
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 1: sure really always stressing that I walked um easy and

1277
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 1: don't do no fast moves or nothing. Make it did

1278
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:44,639
Speaker 1: whatever they want to do, you know what I'm saying.

1279
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 1: But I want to make sure I'm not giving them

1280
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 1: an excuse, like you know what I'm saying, like, oh,

1281
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 1: I thought she was grabbing for a gun because they're

1282
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 1: gonna say they're gonna be their own narrative or whatever.

1283
01:08:55,720 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 1: You know, but I'm pregnant. And then um, um, when

1284
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 1: after they handcuffed and it took me to the pig station.

1285
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 1: That's now right, I got no quote on right and

1286
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 1: Caramu's house shoes the pig damned the revolved me into

1287
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 1: my stomach and I think hollywoll I saw hi and

1288
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:19,759
Speaker 1: say you bet and I try to run or escape,

1289
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 1: I'm handcuffed for hand my back. You know what I'm saying.

1290
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 1: You feel like that? So he was setting up the narrative. Yeah,

1291
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 1: they were setting up the narrative. But you know it

1292
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:35,600
Speaker 1: didn't happen. That was a certain destroy mission to assassinate

1293
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 1: Chairman Fred and and Defense Captain Mark Clark was you know,

1294
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 1: he was the first shot. They came in that shooting,

1295
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, into our apartment shooting. And

1296
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 1: they came in knocking on the door four in the

1297
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 1: morning saying uh with with Defense Captain Mark Clark, say

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01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 1: who is it? They say Tommy? Say Tommy? Who? When

1299
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:57,639
Speaker 1: they say Tommy, gunn They wasting student, They were praying,

1300
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So so they're cracking jokes

1301
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 1: and everything, you know, coming in here to assassinate this man.

1302
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:09,559
Speaker 1: Ain't no statue of limitation for assassination. Is it? Most

1303
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 1: of those clowns are dead though I know you can

1304
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 1: still hold you can still hold the department. They're not

1305
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 1: gonna hold anything because the government did it. It's like

1306
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 1: it's like he said, the government did it. Man called

1307
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 1: being we gotta we gotta a bill. We put the

1308
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:30,679
Speaker 1: African Anti Terrorism Bill that we put over last to decades.

1309
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 1: You know, we pushed hard though in Biden on sign

1310
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 1: it either and so full of ship and saying that

1311
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 1: limitism terrorism. But the but the mate that the our

1312
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 1: political muns are gonna come from the people. You know,

1313
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 1: we get hype, we got you say, without that, we

1314
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 1: only can go as far the people. You don't saying

1315
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:48,720
Speaker 1: that's what that movie. Back to what I said we

1316
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 1: first came in, I said, Man, I appreciate you all

1317
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 1: saying coming Dante. Jacob Rus said. The role of the

1318
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 1: propaganda can be as important as that other gorilla. It's

1319
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 1: information that you don't say they got out. You know what,

1320
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:03,640
Speaker 1: man pointing overturn, you'll making I mean stuff that we

1321
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 1: can say out to people they can't grasp all. You

1322
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, You can never devalue that the

1323
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 1: word You know what I'm saying it's certain. So in

1324
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:12,599
Speaker 1: the movie, the movie was I know I'm saying, I said, man, man,

1325
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 1: we could. I mean, we get a lot of stuff

1326
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 1: in there. And the deal is we got we get

1327
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 1: to win the masses of people to you know, sing

1328
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 1: up the end. You know, so we only even got

1329
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 1: the vanguard, the leadership. You know what I'm saying, the master.

1330
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 1: That's our strength, that's our survival, that's how best security.

1331
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 1: So we stopped pushing certain things. You can't go you

1332
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:31,720
Speaker 1: can't go too far ahead and you can't be the

1333
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 1: tailguard either can't go can't fall behind. So all that's

1334
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 1: important to propaganda. All that's important. So even if the

1335
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:38,680
Speaker 1: people don't know, not that the people don't even know

1336
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:41,679
Speaker 1: had that has serious? This is but you since creative

1337
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 1: I was locked up, our green is in the joint.

1338
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, We come through, man who

1339
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 1: we mean freaking free them all that the state could

1340
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 1: not pick out who was really go get us with

1341
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 1: me or not? You know what I'm saying, Like like

1342
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 1: the street trials, you don't do nothing not like to

1343
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 1: use that terms posts calling them gangs. You know, we

1344
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 1: let use that term Chicago points that's words gang Chicago

1345
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 1: used to so on and so forth. Now he said

1346
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 1: that you go to a certain sets, you're like man,

1347
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 1: who was that? You got the guys when the colors,

1348
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 1: the ladiship the turn. You don't know, you know what

1349
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:08,719
Speaker 1: I'm saying. In a certain movement, it might be fabi

1350
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:10,599
Speaker 1: us just go get us. But you can't pick out

1351
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 1: what's you know I'm saying, So we got a climate

1352
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 1: to set up. Our terms are important. Let me say this.

1353
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 1: Our times are important, don't We got we go and

1354
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:21,679
Speaker 1: get the struggles. These euphanisms not police brutality, police terrorism,

1355
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Not justrification, land grad crack, heroin,

1356
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 1: chemical biological war fail. You know what I'm saying. That

1357
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 1: correctional said us concentration counts. You gotta be second nature,

1358
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 1: your terms being quote me on this being old presses embarrassing.

1359
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 1: Being old presses embarrassing. And I told you try to

1360
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 1: drive ourselves. But like alcohols and knowledge even say the

1361
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 1: first what is it called? It said what it is? Listen,

1362
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 1: we got this ship twisted like a Nazi Germany. It's upfront,

1363
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:54,600
Speaker 1: no debate about it. S S and s A and

1364
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:57,639
Speaker 1: the Fjord Hiller. They created to get old. We think

1365
01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:00,040
Speaker 1: we're told so weird created get olds over here. What

1366
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying, we had to penatill on the pig. I'm

1367
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:04,680
Speaker 1: not gonna speak of the Empancis or he called the

1368
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 1: champion free. You don't gonna blame the white man, the government? Yeah,

1369
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:10,800
Speaker 1: you know, I do. We do everything. Why is it?

1370
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 1: Why is it that black people have a problem pointing

1371
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 1: that out, like blaming, putting the blame squarely on where

1372
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 1: it's supposed to go, and the comprit never has a

1373
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 1: problem putting the blame square I sit back and watch

1374
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 1: people stuff in our community. Right. You listen, see I

1375
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:31,600
Speaker 1: like the term Richard probably saying people knowledges. I like

1376
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 1: that term on people. You listen to certain narratives in

1377
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 1: our community, and I hold my tongue on certain ship.

1378
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:38,560
Speaker 1: I can see what I'm dealing with. You know what

1379
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:41,679
Speaker 1: I'm saying. We don't. But the deally is we don't

1380
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 1: steep playing the win. You you gotta see what you

1381
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 1: dealing with. You know what I'm saying, it's certainly everything.

1382
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 1: Nothing comes in our community, whether it be the crack

1383
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 1: chilling us, the state touch on the You don't say

1384
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:53,679
Speaker 1: get this cut on it nothing I mean nothing, nothing,

1385
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 1: You're not nothing. Man, Listen, it's a big thing, but

1386
01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 1: I listen to Motherfucker's not the thing we do do altpow.

1387
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 1: Motherfucker's is you lis the Buffle's narrative. It's no discuss

1388
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 1: the state, That's what I'm saying. It's man, I said,

1389
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 1: I can see that in Africa there's kidnap with mother saying, man,

1390
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 1: I don't know probably this trade like excuse me, uh

1391
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 1: Portuguese to span your I'm saying, it's no man. If

1392
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:18,840
Speaker 1: you see our community is see what a lot of

1393
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 1: us on like, what's the move in the beginning? Why

1394
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 1: should we struggle for certain terms? I told the machine

1395
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:25,720
Speaker 1: wife on the set that she did played Jacko Hoover.

1396
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 1: He said, to see the coin docuty with the black

1397
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 1: panther parties faded away because they had, you know, gender issues,

1398
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:34,599
Speaker 1: lah otherizations. I had that the coin tail we see

1399
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 1: Chammon brought the puss out of the sword. They have

1400
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:37,679
Speaker 1: to be our first. They try to get the device

1401
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 1: stores to do it. Did before they try, they told,

1402
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 1: do you know what the let us the actually see

1403
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 1: the black store rangers the governments and lets the black yah.

1404
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 1: See they masses at their third hand move. You know

1405
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:49,639
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, they can leave their hands clean. Chairman

1406
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:52,640
Speaker 1: brought the pus out the soul. He heightened the contradictions.

1407
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 1: See I didn't see it. Man, We're heightened the contradictions.

1408
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 1: So the lines of the minute up said, lines of demarcation.

1409
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:01,719
Speaker 1: I drawing who you with the state of the people.

1410
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 1: I don't get uniform, want or not. That's what I'm saying.

1411
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 1: The drug see you go to wander or the who

1412
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:08,839
Speaker 1: tools too? No know what about the motherfucking the Belgium.

1413
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:11,640
Speaker 1: But the friends. What I'm saying, see of criminals, I

1414
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 1: college said, the first thing you go to the crown

1415
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 1: scene is what because what? The first thing you look

1416
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 1: for the crown scene who benefited? That's the first thing

1417
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:27,600
Speaker 1: you look for, who benefited? You're you're experiment. This is

1418
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 1: Chicago real quickly, I know I'm on time. Come on

1419
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 1: the wood experiment, Wood experiment, this natistic Now Daily Daily

1420
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 1: was the daily? Daily? City was the clerk in one

1421
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 1: in Cod County High Park was areas black black folks?

1422
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 1: Is they right? Did you say daily City? No? Daily

1423
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 1: was the clerk before you became the mayor? Mad Daton.

1424
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:59,360
Speaker 1: This map High Park was aving black looks look a

1425
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:04,560
Speaker 1: little local toast Oklahoma's. So they said, okay, make a

1426
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 1: low pass low they could have insurance on their house.

1427
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:09,720
Speaker 1: That's how he's, oh, well, you know, do the right thing,

1428
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 1: get insurance of your house. Along they said, don't sail

1429
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 1: black Pool's north seron. They got him about it there.

1430
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:18,759
Speaker 1: So the nineteen sixties they come. It's air called wooden

1431
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 1: Line in Chicago. They said, we're gonna come to this

1432
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 1: wooden Line, so black briving black community, this important no

1433
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 1: for the record, also back total Okahoma. You know they

1434
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 1: try to see full times minimum for a couple of

1435
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 1: and they get up. They kept knocking them down. They

1436
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:31,840
Speaker 1: just the one it's watching the one hit No. One

1437
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 1: night Stand. Every time they went back and cup A

1438
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 1: they kept knocking him up. For now. Now back to

1439
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 1: Wooden Line in Chicago, the Woodline experience, thriving Black community

1440
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 1: stid moving. They came to the University of Chicago, same

1441
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 1: universe Chicago that uh trained uh penishts uh in Chile.

1442
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 1: Y'all saying his his his his staff, same one that

1443
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 1: they toppled Don Hussein train the motheruck his new staffs

1444
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 1: ain't Universe Chicago that the nucleus for the Adam bombs

1445
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 1: created the same for Chicago. You know what I'm saying.

1446
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 1: Uh uh the Woodline Experiment, So Universe Chicago elis uh

1447
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 1: there with the Univerity Chicago. See us in Roebuck first,

1448
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:21,800
Speaker 1: not the banker for the foundation, Rocket Feller Foundation at

1449
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 1: the Woodline Experiment. Now they come through. Now you asked Arish,

1450
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 1: They're gonna tell you. Oh yeah, man, it was crazy

1451
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 1: back there Stones Inciple just fighting each other. Who was that?

1452
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 1: Just you know, just you know how we are just

1453
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 1: game banking. He's the background in this ship, you know,

1454
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 1: since internal intestins of this ship Universe Chicago, Seitis and roal.

1455
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 1: But first not to the bank Rocket Feller Foundation for

1456
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 1: the foundation amongst others. They come through. They founded over

1457
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:46,879
Speaker 1: a hundred million dollars cash money through the Fish School agents.

1458
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 1: The money passed through Reverend Arthur Braids, the same church,

1459
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:54,559
Speaker 1: the same church that Obama prison. Obama was that when

1460
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 1: you win in on black men on Father's days, say

1461
01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 1: anything political, you can do this. See that connected dots man,

1462
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 1: you start seeing certain They said that that's the same

1463
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 1: Fruck where the braids. You know, the money come through.

1464
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 1: At the same time, the Chicago Police Department dress dress

1465
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 1: up like the ben Don del with disciples. It's war

1466
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 1: black pats white tied around them through drive outs of

1467
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:17,719
Speaker 1: Stones headquarters. They created crime epidemic where the property value

1468
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 1: goes down. Get us up out of there. That's how

1469
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 1: they get on the property. That's what I'm saying. These

1470
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 1: are You can say, who benefited. I ain't somebody to

1471
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:27,479
Speaker 1: know that right there on the dot, like you know

1472
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:29,600
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, after the long range benefit of this,

1473
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, that's how we have to start

1474
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 1: instruct all this person. Hey no, no, no, this ship

1475
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 1: bigger than that, of course, is on the lower level.

1476
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 1: You're some of they're saying. They look for your emotions

1477
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:40,559
Speaker 1: to the decision makers. They don't fly them. Don't fly

1478
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 1: to yourselves. They don't think. They don't funk about you.

1479
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 1: This is business. You know what I'm saying. This is motherfucker.

1480
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 1: They got prisons, they got the developments. Later, they got

1481
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:53,640
Speaker 1: a thing called Chicago twenty one playing Mary daily Late

1482
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 1: decide that's what the project is gonna be. The projects

1483
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 1: of Chicago, those the high it was the highest projects

1484
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 1: in the tree. The University College. They did a test

1485
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 1: with lab rats, place them on top of each other

1486
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:07,759
Speaker 1: and say, now if we systematic to take away the resource,

1487
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:12,680
Speaker 1: No janitor, this listen, this is man. Die Botic said,

1488
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 1: you asked the average Chicago Say, man, but the crimea

1489
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:18,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna penalty two weeks ago. Okay, champion with the police.

1490
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 1: What about U killing each other? I say, first of all,

1491
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 1: I haven't said that we want to doing the killing

1492
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 1: this motherfucker? What do you mean, I said you, that's

1493
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 1: a far gone inclusion. You you you all this ship

1494
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 1: to you about Chicago and the press conference. You never

1495
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 1: hit them. Use the world cartel? What do you think

1496
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:37,639
Speaker 1: the uh el Chappo's main spot was in the country,

1497
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 1: the United States? Really the expressway to two lightey, that's

1498
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 1: that's caller heroin Highway. The two twins that they got

1499
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 1: on stand against l Chapo. You're about them two twins,

1500
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 1: the one the two twins that got on stay on

1501
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 1: the eld Choppo, the one the man with Sidilo about

1502
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 1: the old Sonola cartel who they may every two two

1503
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 1: different girls, both of their dad. He saw the Chicago

1504
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 1: police department. Wow, man, where do you think about the

1505
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 1: New Pather Party different. I'm chelling the Black Panther Party cubs. Man, Man,

1506
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 1: I'm the chelling the Black Panther Party cups. I'm the

1507
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 1: champ of the Black Panther Party culer having relationship. I'm

1508
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:21,400
Speaker 1: the champion of Black path Party culs. This man, I'm

1509
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 1: the chamber of the Black Panther Party clubs. I'm clear, man,

1510
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:28,479
Speaker 1: I'm a structure. And you know antagonists say they ever

1511
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:29,680
Speaker 1: trying to reach out to you. I mean, we know,

1512
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:32,080
Speaker 1: we do. You know. I'm I'm really big when you

1513
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:34,559
Speaker 1: know with the campaign says an issue, we're bumped certain forces.

1514
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We got points of unity

1515
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 1: on the campaign so and so forth. But I'm real

1516
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 1: big about the instructure. This is. This is because our

1517
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 1: task I can't afford to say, Okay, this is a

1518
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:46,559
Speaker 1: saying phase of my life. I'm going to what I'm saying.

1519
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:49,599
Speaker 1: This is like like really technically right now we're talking

1520
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 1: to you, I'm out of uniform. You know what I'm

1521
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:53,360
Speaker 1: saying this is we have a certain colors, certain you

1522
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 1: know everything. You know that this is uniform. He's a

1523
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 1: different color. So you know, I was up here again

1524
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 1: you know, uh the rage his father funeral. You know

1525
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, But it's certainly one thing we're going

1526
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 1: to be in one time and longs uh conductive again

1527
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 1: continue coming community condolences. We're just going to a thing

1528
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 1: uh in l a by Oscar Grant And we pull

1529
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:15,680
Speaker 1: up and they said, man, they get all organizations over there.

1530
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:18,760
Speaker 1: They say, champ we only got one cup, one T shirt.

1531
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 1: Who're gonna wear? These other guys say one of us

1532
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:23,680
Speaker 1: gotta wear and say Champan the gota wear. They know

1533
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 1: what he is. I'm saying through the dope. You know

1534
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So that see it's not time people.

1535
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 1: We don't like to hear that term like you know,

1536
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 1: saying like differences because we get call it that. Or

1537
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 1: you gotta be antagonistic, like you don't say you gotta

1538
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 1: be hating no contradictions, just to they acknowledge this is

1539
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 1: what this is. You know, it's a it's a it's

1540
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:42,519
Speaker 1: a it's an ideology. It's a concept. You know what

1541
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:45,759
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And it's like what uh it's checks and balances.

1542
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 1: You know, you know I'm not chamming Fred. This ain't

1543
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:51,680
Speaker 1: no Egyptian dynasty. I'm not champing Fred just gonna look

1544
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 1: like them, talk like them. You know what I'm saying.

1545
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:55,479
Speaker 1: I come, we have a structure, we have ideology, you

1546
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But a lot of people can

1547
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:59,480
Speaker 1: do that with other entities, like in the religious institutions

1548
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:01,479
Speaker 1: you say, oh long man, that crestion, don't go on

1549
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:03,519
Speaker 1: that side, you know what I'm saying. That's a different dynamic.

1550
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:05,280
Speaker 1: Or you see a guys saying all that's that's that's

1551
01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 1: the sunny Muslims. So that's that's Nicety is law, it's

1552
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:10,679
Speaker 1: not it's not necessary to be antagonistic, but the first

1553
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:12,160
Speaker 1: of all to be you have some clarity, you know

1554
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because the deal is like when the Black

1555
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:16,640
Speaker 1: Pather Party, they don't get credit for losses they did

1556
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 1: and they get blame hlossity that they have nothing to

1557
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:20,880
Speaker 1: do with you saying what I'm saying. So for you

1558
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:23,800
Speaker 1: to doing a gumbo basically clear with a piece of garlic.

1559
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 1: Kids know what I'm saying before you. So it's it's

1560
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:28,640
Speaker 1: it's a case by case basis. Before we have in

1561
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 1: the relationship, you say, hold on, al on, it's pretty mature,

1562
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:32,599
Speaker 1: you know what you're saying this one ain't never seen

1563
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 1: no man before. Well, this man never seen a woman before.

1564
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 1: This pretty I'm saying before you some one the coalition.

1565
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You're gonna be a clarity.

1566
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:40,880
Speaker 1: You don't say this what this is? You know? You

1567
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 1: know I'm saying, like like you can say, Kyle, you

1568
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 1: see it. You talk to you for twenty minutes. You know,

1569
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 1: say all man's one, that's that's one. Larry's man. You

1570
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:48,559
Speaker 1: know what saying. It's gonna cheat. You know I'm saying,

1571
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 1: you can just gonna cheat my leaks. Chairmillaria, the Nations Law.

1572
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 1: It's it's enough time people have an issue with structure

1573
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 1: because it's automatic. We've talked to believe that contradictions have

1574
01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 1: to be attagonistic. When the government getting stones works in

1575
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 1: their paths cham when they met with Chief Moleku. You

1576
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:04,760
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and they acknowledge some contradictions, you

1577
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:06,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and say it's some points of

1578
01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:07,679
Speaker 1: unity we can really call. You's know what I'm saying.

1579
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 1: The deal is, that's the first step. Not come with

1580
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:13,720
Speaker 1: this blanket approach that we all the same. You say,

1581
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 1: we all have different experiences and different. Don't saying different that.

1582
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 1: Now we have to find common goals. But first of all,

1583
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:21,439
Speaker 1: acknowledge this is what this is, you know saying I'm

1584
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 1: not talking about you know when it's fashion. I'm to

1585
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:26,240
Speaker 1: my consistent man because he comes with this ship. Man,

1586
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:29,000
Speaker 1: I tell I tell you man to man, I respect

1587
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 1: and appreciate that the tested conditions, like gonna tell all

1588
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 1: I tell all the artists. I said, Man, a lot

1589
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 1: of cats being bubbles makes what you mean? I say,

1590
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 1: you know, that's just this reason why you say you

1591
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 1: look at four eight hours. They don't ask you on

1592
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:42,640
Speaker 1: the streets. They take you and about yourself. You know,

1593
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 1: you know what I say. You know what I'm saying,

1594
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 1: talk tell you you put them in the bubble. You

1595
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:48,360
Speaker 1: know I'm saying, don't I tell me to be a

1596
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 1: member with the Black Path. Right now? I'm like, man,

1597
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:52,559
Speaker 1: go go look on what's happening from the Healthy House

1598
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:54,479
Speaker 1: right now. So I want to go right now as

1599
01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 1: we speak, literally it's a food give way going on

1600
01:23:57,080 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 1: right now. Before we got there, it was man, they

1601
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:02,600
Speaker 1: tried turning happy house to a dope. Then it was

1602
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:05,720
Speaker 1: many man, mother us not that we had to come

1603
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 1: to their mother, clean house. We cut off cones with

1604
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:11,639
Speaker 1: no motherfucking bodies. Know what I'm saying. Contestic this contested conditions.

1605
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We had the dogs, the

1606
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:16,800
Speaker 1: Hampton House Hounds, everything political. You say, we could the

1607
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 1: fair for them me he certain dogs didn't make the cut.

1608
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's a certain dynamic that

1609
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 1: you're saying. People say, man on the join, yours not

1610
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 1: a you sure you won't get out of this here?

1611
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:27,680
Speaker 1: Six weeks politically education for them already and we do

1612
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:30,640
Speaker 1: the every Wednesday co host right there. You know what

1613
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You say, community service. It's a certain dynamic.

1614
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We have to acknowledge. It's

1615
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 1: a certain It's a certain like the Pather party, you

1616
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 1: know on the movie said he was like, oh hold on, man,

1617
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 1: it's like everything down to who shot first, how do

1618
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:46,880
Speaker 1: you hold it gun? You know what that's that's important.

1619
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:50,439
Speaker 1: Let's just throw it out there. No, no, no, it's

1620
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:52,679
Speaker 1: just like you want to do that with no music.

1621
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 1: You're going to just say, man, fun just through the

1622
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:55,880
Speaker 1: beats up in their motherfucker. We mean you was just

1623
01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:59,799
Speaker 1: were just studios and years back. I'll know the dynamic,

1624
01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:02,040
Speaker 1: you the good talk, all those specifics, you know, you

1625
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, you know, man, and how you

1626
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 1: coming with that piece? You just can't going to say,

1627
01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 1: MANU put the loop right here. When the mother cooking

1628
01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:12,479
Speaker 1: a meal, you don't wanted to say just throw the

1629
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:14,920
Speaker 1: meal in there. It's just man, it's grandmama food or

1630
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:16,800
Speaker 1: you must don't like AUNTI food. But no, I'm not

1631
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:18,760
Speaker 1: saying nothing to say this grandmamas. You know what I'm saying.

1632
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 1: It's not antagonistic, it's love. So the deal is, we

1633
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:24,080
Speaker 1: have to start. We have to hire companies elementary to

1634
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 1: see the definition that is on the here. Accountable, she

1635
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 1: would say, look child, but again it's as a child. However,

1636
01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 1: I'm constantly, you know, saying I'm there accountable. I'm you know,

1637
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:35,720
Speaker 1: saying it's checks and balances, you know the most Okay, Man,

1638
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 1: they watched me, they say, man doing the super Max.

1639
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 1: Let me ask something. Do you feel that it's an insult?

1640
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:48,679
Speaker 1: The name itself new Black Panther Party as opposed because

1641
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 1: people like new stuff, right like like people like say

1642
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:56,280
Speaker 1: something is new suggests that something is something else is old?

1643
01:25:57,439 --> 01:26:02,760
Speaker 1: Does that that seems like an insult itself. Let me

1644
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:06,639
Speaker 1: say that it's not okay, I don't it's a comment.

1645
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:08,920
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna put absolute on it because of times

1646
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 1: you have you have you have a combination or certain

1647
01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 1: forces maybe sincereus. You know what I'm saying, what the

1648
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:16,719
Speaker 1: deal is or so you're saying some forces. Uh don't

1649
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:18,760
Speaker 1: know whether the case may people have, but I can't

1650
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:22,599
Speaker 1: cut no corners. This ideology is there's there's a black

1651
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 1: panther party. You know what I'm saying. And I'm real careful.

1652
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 1: I give life to do you know what I'm saying,

1653
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:30,880
Speaker 1: because am so. I'm not evading your question. I'm saying

1654
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 1: the gather from Chicago sometimes told me one time, you said,

1655
01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:35,840
Speaker 1: I remember years ago if ironically he was asking some

1656
01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 1: some of the questions because I thought you was deaf. Yeah,

1657
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:42,960
Speaker 1: he said you would not respond to certain things. You

1658
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:45,720
Speaker 1: I'm saying a lot of times you'd be surprised just

1659
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 1: with the work you be. You move around. And also

1660
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:51,720
Speaker 1: it's impaired to I need to see contradictions, and p

1661
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:54,879
Speaker 1: Newt said, contradictions out of rule of principle of the universe.

1662
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:57,680
Speaker 1: You need to see certain I'm gonna told this guy

1663
01:26:57,720 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 1: these these two different street tracks right there in to

1664
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 1: it to one guy sick man sae shi, dude, serve

1665
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:04,160
Speaker 1: a purpose with you? Oh man, you're on that motherfucking

1666
01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:05,880
Speaker 1: black ship. I'm gonna get this thing. I say, man,

1667
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:08,920
Speaker 1: hold on, how many your members and dropped out their

1668
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:12,599
Speaker 1: thing because of dude? He said, you said yeah, I said,

1669
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 1: imagine the man at the police station. I need certain

1670
01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:18,439
Speaker 1: contradictions to exist to watch you know what I'm saying.

1671
01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:21,080
Speaker 1: You started to see sometimes like that time like I

1672
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:23,280
Speaker 1: do an'ways say we've been infiltrated, we've been attacked everything

1673
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 1: cham what you say something they're on social media say

1674
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:28,120
Speaker 1: this isn't that? Sometimes that ship sit and see what

1675
01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 1: flies attract. My life can depend on it. If what

1676
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:34,599
Speaker 1: I'm saying I watch they want to Cassie, why why

1677
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:36,840
Speaker 1: do you ask that guy with music is too new

1678
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:38,639
Speaker 1: members there? I tell you I'm giving I'm really good.

1679
01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:40,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give me too much out now, But you

1680
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 1: don't saying what it is? What it is? I studied

1681
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:46,000
Speaker 1: people what you what's it? Then they don't like you.

1682
01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:47,840
Speaker 1: I say, I come back, I use the let's say

1683
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:49,800
Speaker 1: what was in you? What did you attract to. That's

1684
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:51,800
Speaker 1: all I'm saying. And then you don't saying that serves

1685
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:54,599
Speaker 1: a purpose. You don't say because you certain conscious need

1686
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:56,640
Speaker 1: things and certain things to be like right on the

1687
01:27:56,720 --> 01:27:58,639
Speaker 1: table and that time we go in with this person

1688
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:01,800
Speaker 1: is no, it's no slight I'll tell us when you

1689
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:04,240
Speaker 1: look at you know this, this is no slighter man

1690
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:07,640
Speaker 1: operation push. This is the dollar side. I mean it's no,

1691
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:11,000
Speaker 1: it's the deal, is it. See it's no, No, it's

1692
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 1: it's it's not that. It's not no, it's not the

1693
01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:15,799
Speaker 1: elementary bad and good people. You don't say some dynamics,

1694
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 1: you know, like like I said, this is about corner.

1695
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:19,680
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. This is mine and it's

1696
01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:22,120
Speaker 1: you know, it's as certain organizations did you the other

1697
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:23,639
Speaker 1: people you can try to make them out to something

1698
01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:25,720
Speaker 1: to beat you know what I'm saying that maybe if

1699
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:27,600
Speaker 1: it you as what I'm saying. But the deal is

1700
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:30,720
Speaker 1: you you at certain these const if I can I

1701
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:32,200
Speaker 1: can move on stuff pre with you that I can

1702
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:33,439
Speaker 1: come through, I can like not me, A lot of

1703
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:36,720
Speaker 1: people we can, like p say, with Pop and Mickey roar.

1704
01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:38,920
Speaker 1: He said, man like you don't know who I am.

1705
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:41,519
Speaker 1: And because why do you think he said that I was.

1706
01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 1: I tell how many people out of the whole back,

1707
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 1: I don't say who I am because I can know

1708
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:47,559
Speaker 1: not almost going to their February mode. I'm not gonna

1709
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:49,479
Speaker 1: speak on college campuses. I would I would go through

1710
01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 1: the community, I would go through the campus. I would

1711
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 1: just hang around in Carnido. You know what I'm saying.

1712
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:56,240
Speaker 1: Let me see you don't working with then moves. You

1713
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because this is I can, I can.

1714
01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 1: We can tell you we take were quenri the contradictions

1715
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 1: and our headquarters years ago for I get locked up

1716
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:08,519
Speaker 1: to me down for nine years for being chamber free.

1717
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 1: Have to they said in court we bought about him

1718
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:13,479
Speaker 1: the charge of artistal We brought it up there. We

1719
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:16,680
Speaker 1: brought up at him the States Attorney. I think he

1720
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 1: was married. Maybe last the judge Michael P. Touman, when

1721
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:22,200
Speaker 1: most politically collected judge and could County to this day

1722
01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:24,640
Speaker 1: still serving. This is same judge gave Jeff four they

1723
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:26,800
Speaker 1: k chief my leak a state time, the same the

1724
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 1: same jeergy they feeling the movie's fugit tire men. This

1725
01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:31,400
Speaker 1: is the same judge that that was the name just smaller.

1726
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:34,479
Speaker 1: He has no idea what the going on? This is

1727
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 1: what you want to say? Everything political. How many years

1728
01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:39,120
Speaker 1: did you do on that? They gave me a team,

1729
01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:41,000
Speaker 1: but third nine because the time you will serve half

1730
01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:43,880
Speaker 1: with it when he gave you. And I'm a cooling

1731
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:45,600
Speaker 1: this put one for the people that came out of

1732
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:47,960
Speaker 1: there and get them in in in a wood box.

1733
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:50,519
Speaker 1: They tried to think they they tried it. Oh man,

1734
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:54,920
Speaker 1: August CEO ain't void from the gun tower. Bamn black

1735
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:57,080
Speaker 1: made commin push me at the way because the books

1736
01:29:57,080 --> 01:29:59,160
Speaker 1: I was in the collar ball put me in sales

1737
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:01,720
Speaker 1: with castings. Try to do your name. They man the

1738
01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:05,000
Speaker 1: people with my best security inside and on the outside.

1739
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:07,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's important you talk about. I've seen some

1740
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:09,280
Speaker 1: of the you some cantl MU say want easy for

1741
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:11,160
Speaker 1: parking jail. Yeah, so when you talk a lot of

1742
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:14,720
Speaker 1: guys have a different dynamics jail. Not in the community. Man,

1743
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:17,840
Speaker 1: they know your bloodline more than you know your own bloodline.

1744
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:19,960
Speaker 1: They know a problem. You know what I'm saying that

1745
01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:21,599
Speaker 1: I lost my train. Throw I was going and uh

1746
01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:26,960
Speaker 1: I was going somewhere, okay what I was going, but

1747
01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:30,960
Speaker 1: that but again the politics man, and I'd be real

1748
01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:34,640
Speaker 1: like I said, and there's no some things are necessary. Man,

1749
01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:36,120
Speaker 1: I make it clear like I said, you know like

1750
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:39,439
Speaker 1: ding black panther party clubs. I make that clear. I'm

1751
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:41,760
Speaker 1: real careful what I give life to. That's what I'm saying.

1752
01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:44,920
Speaker 1: And in my my, my, my theory and my practice,

1753
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:46,479
Speaker 1: you look at say okay, this is what this is.

1754
01:30:47,479 --> 01:30:50,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because again it's dynamics with

1755
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:51,800
Speaker 1: people look at themselves said well wait a minute, know

1756
01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:56,280
Speaker 1: with like it's certain old cases as yourself. So that

1757
01:30:56,439 --> 01:30:58,880
Speaker 1: especially organized not community. You can't tell a lot of

1758
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:00,600
Speaker 1: black fools nothing that white black for lot bluffe was

1759
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:02,040
Speaker 1: a long best, the white folks telling them on them,

1760
01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:06,080
Speaker 1: telling themselves no real talk, real talk, No, you know,

1761
01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:09,120
Speaker 1: real talk. What do you do you heighten the contradictions?

1762
01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:11,280
Speaker 1: I said, somebody, they'd be laughing at me. They'd be

1763
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:13,519
Speaker 1: like champ, you do that all the time. They won't

1764
01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:15,400
Speaker 1: get to the recently said, man, you knew all the time,

1765
01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:18,759
Speaker 1: but you never said the dudes on one time his family,

1766
01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:21,800
Speaker 1: what's gonna you know? Saying somebody some poblis that kiss

1767
01:31:21,800 --> 01:31:23,800
Speaker 1: me one of their family? He said, you never did

1768
01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:26,280
Speaker 1: come out there that case you did say, I watched you.

1769
01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:28,200
Speaker 1: He said, why you didn't say noting to me? Cham,

1770
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:29,640
Speaker 1: I said, man, that's your family. Man. You know what

1771
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:32,560
Speaker 1: I say my actions watch that. Watch I do study me,

1772
01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:34,600
Speaker 1: you know I'm saying, like then the thing went to

1773
01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:37,000
Speaker 1: my turning to the gun or the Chicago. I told him,

1774
01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:38,920
Speaker 1: forced to be cool, man, I said, man, so they

1775
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:41,120
Speaker 1: picked up on our weaker links and put them on.

1776
01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:45,639
Speaker 1: Then is he doing up there? Said man, your suspensions

1777
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:46,920
Speaker 1: though it's in the mothering Man, what the fund are

1778
01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:49,519
Speaker 1: you doing? He said, oh? Man, I didn't say. Yes, man,

1779
01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:51,519
Speaker 1: we're not gonna challenge that because you can't. That's too

1780
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:54,320
Speaker 1: emotional to tell people. You don't saying all the killings

1781
01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:57,320
Speaker 1: an't going to Chicago. The babies got kill you? Can

1782
01:31:57,360 --> 01:31:58,760
Speaker 1: you you're not debating will lodge it? You' know what

1783
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:02,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Still might watching watch our move. That's a

1784
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:07,160
Speaker 1: good point. Obama. Obama when he first ran in from office,

1785
01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:11,120
Speaker 1: we have to put a mandate out, I said, be cool, man, Man, chairman,

1786
01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:14,320
Speaker 1: I should be cool. Sit back and watch this. I said,

1787
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:16,640
Speaker 1: be cool. Watch what I said. Watch watch this, man,

1788
01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:19,280
Speaker 1: I said, why do you know the contradictions when he

1789
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:21,160
Speaker 1: ran for citing. He want you. I'm saying he won't

1790
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:23,760
Speaker 1: touch this. He won't touched I said, listen, man, let

1791
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:27,439
Speaker 1: me use the knowledge. Bro. Obama is the coldest drug

1792
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:31,880
Speaker 1: America dropped on black sins. Crack a man, you went

1793
01:32:31,960 --> 01:32:33,479
Speaker 1: up in the dopous both got spike in the arm.

1794
01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:35,560
Speaker 1: Held hey, man, this is unhealthy for you. You're not

1795
01:32:35,640 --> 01:32:38,320
Speaker 1: doing no more fucking logic. You look at people eyes

1796
01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:40,400
Speaker 1: and when when when it was going down? But I

1797
01:32:40,439 --> 01:32:43,040
Speaker 1: got a memory like a king and elephant too. I

1798
01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:46,000
Speaker 1: remember who too with resistance. There's no no love loss.

1799
01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:49,240
Speaker 1: How to move her? Not to move you know what

1800
01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:52,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I don't want to. I want to Me

1801
01:32:52,120 --> 01:32:54,040
Speaker 1: and Mozill talk about this and this day y'all same babe.

1802
01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:57,479
Speaker 1: When he's back, we's backstage and the rock the bells, concers.

1803
01:32:58,040 --> 01:33:00,720
Speaker 1: You're sitting the backstage and say, man said, man, this

1804
01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:03,719
Speaker 1: this this this they first, they first put it out there, Obama,

1805
01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:06,120
Speaker 1: So what's your thoughts? And we don't have had a conversation,

1806
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:09,360
Speaker 1: he said, Man, come on with us. We have a conversation. Man,

1807
01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:12,200
Speaker 1: So we got he told so I said, okay, So

1808
01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:15,040
Speaker 1: we're talking on passionate. They go off the stage and

1809
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:17,840
Speaker 1: they say, man, what's going on? He was most He said, oh,

1810
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:19,720
Speaker 1: it's had the chaman is maybe passionate about you know

1811
01:33:19,720 --> 01:33:22,200
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He remembered, they don't. He said, I

1812
01:33:22,200 --> 01:33:24,880
Speaker 1: remember the position you took. Then I said, I'm not

1813
01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:26,639
Speaker 1: just doing it. I'm not I'm not hating. I don't

1814
01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:28,400
Speaker 1: know when you ran from Sinning, I said, First of all,

1815
01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:30,519
Speaker 1: I was watching, so I said down. I grew up

1816
01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:32,280
Speaker 1: in Chicago. You know what I mean, I ain't ever

1817
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:34,760
Speaker 1: seen this guy. This dudes popped by notice man trying

1818
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:37,960
Speaker 1: candidate what the going on? And I'm sim with that.

1819
01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:40,040
Speaker 1: It to my people, we would do so. I never

1820
01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:42,439
Speaker 1: knock him on, said they stole the dog talks. None

1821
01:33:42,439 --> 01:33:44,360
Speaker 1: of that. The ship we go through. So if you

1822
01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:49,320
Speaker 1: jo to Obama stepping out on the national scene running

1823
01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:53,400
Speaker 1: for president, you had no knowledge of his Community actident.

1824
01:33:53,439 --> 01:33:55,840
Speaker 1: They ran. They ran from Sennate at the Blue and

1825
01:33:55,840 --> 01:33:59,000
Speaker 1: Stay ran it from Sinnate. Well, yes, the guy run

1826
01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:01,559
Speaker 1: against what the Republicans do. Name Keith and sayce Chicago,

1827
01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:04,360
Speaker 1: you gotta make your bones that you do automatic office all.

1828
01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:06,640
Speaker 1: It's a political monster. You know what I'm saying, and

1829
01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:08,880
Speaker 1: you're just at the bulls of down. Said, man, I'm

1830
01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:13,400
Speaker 1: locked up and saying down. You know, like you gotta

1831
01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:16,240
Speaker 1: be careful how you struggle with people, because again you

1832
01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:17,880
Speaker 1: get me sympathetic because you know, you know what the

1833
01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:19,439
Speaker 1: mother going through. So there's certain things that I don't

1834
01:34:19,479 --> 01:34:21,599
Speaker 1: knock people for that. You know, I'm saying, I don't judge.

1835
01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:23,320
Speaker 1: You know you don't saying what we do that that's

1836
01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:25,720
Speaker 1: one thing, your personal thing. When you stopped putting up

1837
01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:27,800
Speaker 1: for the dipposing for the people, not not gonna cut

1838
01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:32,240
Speaker 1: you whatever you do. Even dude, man, you know this

1839
01:34:32,360 --> 01:34:36,120
Speaker 1: dude doing this. Hey listen, this has called one time

1840
01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:38,320
Speaker 1: she called she reaction that she come, man, this dude

1841
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:41,080
Speaker 1: over here, he got eight wives live on him. And

1842
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:42,840
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, we did I say, I say,

1843
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:45,519
Speaker 1: in your point, I say, they they're grown. What do

1844
01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:48,000
Speaker 1: you mean they're grown? Stay grown? So yeah, what was

1845
01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:49,720
Speaker 1: your how was you calling me for? I said, all

1846
01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:51,679
Speaker 1: of me cool with that? What is you just calling

1847
01:34:51,720 --> 01:34:55,840
Speaker 1: me for? I don't little dictator, if this works, you do,

1848
01:34:55,840 --> 01:34:59,599
Speaker 1: I'm saying, we man, man, whatever an adult you don't

1849
01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:01,479
Speaker 1: say saying you have the other there's just some choling

1850
01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:03,519
Speaker 1: over that. So I'm been taking advantage of No, okay,

1851
01:35:06,120 --> 01:35:07,840
Speaker 1: that's your cup of teas individual, I don't know what

1852
01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:10,000
Speaker 1: you'alla saying. We don't know. You don't know what man

1853
01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:12,599
Speaker 1: a baggage of motherfucking Karen, So you know what I'm saying.

1854
01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:14,920
Speaker 1: But now the deal is come for the people. So

1855
01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:17,400
Speaker 1: we relate to the party line. The black Panther parties

1856
01:35:17,439 --> 01:35:20,760
Speaker 1: with the black Panther party could and basically mathematics, it

1857
01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:23,720
Speaker 1: was good for the family, may not be good for

1858
01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:27,360
Speaker 1: the community. It's good for the community. It's good for

1859
01:35:27,439 --> 01:35:30,400
Speaker 1: the family. And what I'm saying, see on that movie,

1860
01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:32,960
Speaker 1: it's a lot that winning there. Get mad at me

1861
01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:35,880
Speaker 1: to this day, I'm like, man's going and get a bag.

1862
01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:38,920
Speaker 1: I want to a big bag payoff. However, at the

1863
01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:43,360
Speaker 1: end result it's on going relationship. Man rand Cool arrested

1864
01:35:43,439 --> 01:35:45,400
Speaker 1: for us, but we still have an on going relationship.

1865
01:35:45,479 --> 01:35:46,920
Speaker 1: They we just did a thing with dr U and

1866
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:50,320
Speaker 1: p Newton Foundation Open California. It's on going relationship. See,

1867
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:52,040
Speaker 1: I don't look at our people are moving and it's

1868
01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:54,680
Speaker 1: no one night stand. I don't say adds to my

1869
01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:58,040
Speaker 1: color man Daniel Keloya, he sticked back to this band

1870
01:35:58,120 --> 01:36:00,599
Speaker 1: Domini fishback they called on the Center for August thirty.

1871
01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:04,400
Speaker 1: If you don't saying it's a man how again? How

1872
01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:08,080
Speaker 1: accurate was his road the road that he played? You

1873
01:36:08,240 --> 01:36:13,479
Speaker 1: can't they get that state? Close? Did he did he come?

1874
01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:15,720
Speaker 1: And tell you? Hold on? Hold on? Yeah? I want

1875
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:18,760
Speaker 1: you to tell me how close he he came? And

1876
01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:20,920
Speaker 1: I want Mama, I know this is one of the questions.

1877
01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:23,760
Speaker 1: You kind of predicted that I might go there, but yeah,

1878
01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:26,560
Speaker 1: you tell me how how close to you background? We

1879
01:36:26,680 --> 01:36:28,680
Speaker 1: had to have what we did like this, if I

1880
01:36:28,720 --> 01:36:30,240
Speaker 1: as the champion to question he got go all this

1881
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:35,400
Speaker 1: whole long story. Yeah, so this is important. You know

1882
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:38,840
Speaker 1: people say the movie on cham like okay, so not

1883
01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:41,960
Speaker 1: talking that stuff got when people find out, you know,

1884
01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:45,599
Speaker 1: the stuff that come with this, you people fade away.

1885
01:36:45,640 --> 01:36:47,599
Speaker 1: You know what it's like like like you like something

1886
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:49,519
Speaker 1: like a lot of people ask me questions like a

1887
01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:53,080
Speaker 1: stand up sister. She don't entertain she'd be allounging that

1888
01:36:53,120 --> 01:36:54,720
Speaker 1: man dude checking you out. She's nothing to go on

1889
01:36:54,880 --> 01:36:57,719
Speaker 1: like you. You know what I'm saying, she she cops,

1890
01:36:57,760 --> 01:37:00,960
Speaker 1: she clipped. It's certain things I don't even give Like

1891
01:37:01,040 --> 01:37:02,800
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, So we heard about this, okay.

1892
01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:04,080
Speaker 1: You know there's a lot of people do the movies

1893
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:06,400
Speaker 1: on the champion. So some people go tellents like man, listen,

1894
01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:08,400
Speaker 1: it's checks and balance, would dude, and they ain't no

1895
01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:10,360
Speaker 1: more fun groupies. They theyre gon't hold a count them.

1896
01:37:10,720 --> 01:37:13,320
Speaker 1: So we started get the steam building up movies. So

1897
01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:15,519
Speaker 1: hold on, we got to now on this go. You know.

1898
01:37:16,120 --> 01:37:17,960
Speaker 1: So we're back and forth. You know what, man, you

1899
01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:19,320
Speaker 1: can't meet with the people. We got to meet with

1900
01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:21,040
Speaker 1: the people, you know what I'm saying. So we finally

1901
01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:22,960
Speaker 1: cut cut a path for the meeting. So we at

1902
01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:25,400
Speaker 1: the Hampton House. You know what I'm saying. You got

1903
01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:27,640
Speaker 1: Charles King of Macro. That's bepoint to point out to

1904
01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:30,479
Speaker 1: the w this Warner Brothers they i mean, got down too.

1905
01:37:30,520 --> 01:37:36,439
Speaker 1: But Charles King Macro uh uh terror uh naja Warner

1906
01:37:36,520 --> 01:37:40,280
Speaker 1: brothers uh man brother is like a nephew to me now.

1907
01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:43,200
Speaker 1: But Ryan cool Is White is Emzy shacka king the

1908
01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:48,920
Speaker 1: director um uh Daniel Coloa Dominique fishback. So wet the

1909
01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:52,479
Speaker 1: twee at the table man eight nine hours. You know

1910
01:37:52,520 --> 01:37:54,720
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We're talking and stuff. So Dan the blue.

1911
01:37:54,720 --> 01:37:57,599
Speaker 1: I said, you know, a really, my office ain't really here.

1912
01:37:58,160 --> 01:38:01,280
Speaker 1: We got we gotta beet to my office. That's man. Man,

1913
01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:04,360
Speaker 1: let's say Google right now, just right now, so y'all

1914
01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:06,800
Speaker 1: know to say scripted Google type in what is the

1915
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:09,840
Speaker 1: first name in Chicago. I'm talking like real time right now,

1916
01:38:10,120 --> 01:38:13,439
Speaker 1: the worst neighborhood. Type in what's the worst name in Chicago?

1917
01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:16,080
Speaker 1: So I need this right now, the type of name.

1918
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:19,760
Speaker 1: Then people got murdered. Kaytime manson, manage of keeper. That's

1919
01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:23,200
Speaker 1: who we are. Man, hold on that the studio and loment.

1920
01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:27,240
Speaker 1: We gotta go me that just to the god love man.

1921
01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:29,080
Speaker 1: Three four in the morning. Go out there on the

1922
01:38:29,120 --> 01:38:32,000
Speaker 1: block right there, cat still doing the US everything right there,

1923
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:35,240
Speaker 1: and it's blood on the ground. I'm watching. I'm still

1924
01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:38,640
Speaker 1: I'm checking the Daniel Caloias. You know. It's response. We

1925
01:38:38,840 --> 01:38:40,960
Speaker 1: have to dialogue everything. You know, a lot of people

1926
01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:42,600
Speaker 1: have this whole thing. Oh man, you're not from the

1927
01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:45,680
Speaker 1: United States, blah blah blah. This man, I'm on with

1928
01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:54,200
Speaker 1: a politic that transcends geographical, gender and generational lines. I'm

1929
01:38:54,240 --> 01:38:58,639
Speaker 1: on with a politic that transcendence generational, geographical and gender line.

1930
01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:01,840
Speaker 1: Every man, it was certain things. That's saying. We walked

1931
01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:04,519
Speaker 1: up the stairs, check it out. Hold on, they walked

1932
01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:06,920
Speaker 1: up and they they're walking them up and we was

1933
01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:09,240
Speaker 1: able to be like they said, consultant. I think this

1934
01:39:09,320 --> 01:39:10,920
Speaker 1: is a flimty term. A lot of times you say

1935
01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:13,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna being knowledge. No, no, we was there. You

1936
01:39:13,680 --> 01:39:15,400
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And it was conscious, you know,

1937
01:39:15,640 --> 01:39:19,040
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of tugging pool, you know. But man, hey,

1938
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:21,920
Speaker 1: I got so much little respect for that brother mentem

1939
01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:25,360
Speaker 1: he one thing he said about he said too, as

1940
01:39:25,400 --> 01:39:27,720
Speaker 1: well as the cast we we we we mean's a

1941
01:39:27,800 --> 01:39:32,040
Speaker 1: drain team and cats man he said, he he said,

1942
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:34,720
Speaker 1: he healed at himself. He gave. It's hard to told

1943
01:39:34,920 --> 01:39:38,439
Speaker 1: people because he they've learned something. You got it. It's

1944
01:39:38,439 --> 01:39:40,600
Speaker 1: a certain humbleness that you know, I'm saying, like like

1945
01:39:41,240 --> 01:39:42,800
Speaker 1: and now people didn't got that. People coming, Oh, I

1946
01:39:42,840 --> 01:39:45,599
Speaker 1: know the moment I read this book, Bolis, you read

1947
01:39:45,640 --> 01:39:47,280
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. We had to go clean house,

1948
01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:49,360
Speaker 1: you know, saying something. A lot of Boglis books we

1949
01:39:50,439 --> 01:39:53,880
Speaker 1: see like when you like it's as I think all

1950
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:55,519
Speaker 1: Avite is the one of them TV shows one time

1951
01:39:55,680 --> 01:39:58,479
Speaker 1: years back and listening is attacking them cats about in

1952
01:39:58,479 --> 01:40:01,040
Speaker 1: the NBA supposed going through college and all. You know

1953
01:40:01,040 --> 01:40:03,760
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And they actually say, man, why are

1954
01:40:03,800 --> 01:40:07,479
Speaker 1: you not going you know, uh college education? You know?

1955
01:40:08,080 --> 01:40:11,240
Speaker 1: He say, the money they offer me not takes kids

1956
01:40:11,280 --> 01:40:14,479
Speaker 1: of my sister's medical expenses. What can you tell me?

1957
01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:17,400
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. See, in order to hear something,

1958
01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:18,760
Speaker 1: you're gonna be a certain incentive, like you know what

1959
01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:21,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So to a lot of times people come

1960
01:40:21,120 --> 01:40:23,200
Speaker 1: in like you know, we know what the panther party is.

1961
01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:25,439
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, And I can't struggle with

1962
01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:28,080
Speaker 1: them because time, you know, on the bubble or certain arenas,

1963
01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:30,960
Speaker 1: it's no incentive for you. So sometimes I said, hold

1964
01:40:31,000 --> 01:40:33,160
Speaker 1: for a minute, that he gets that because see even

1965
01:40:33,240 --> 01:40:34,960
Speaker 1: a lot of mean with different artists, diff people. I say, man,

1966
01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:37,840
Speaker 1: I don't catch him. Now he's a white chairman. I say, man,

1967
01:40:37,880 --> 01:40:41,920
Speaker 1: he turned more than me black. He turned Michael Jackson's person.

1968
01:40:41,960 --> 01:40:44,519
Speaker 1: Don't make a defer to you black and white when

1969
01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:46,559
Speaker 1: the case came down. What he's saying, they don't care

1970
01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:48,840
Speaker 1: about us, you know what I'm saying. So you you

1971
01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:51,479
Speaker 1: have a certain ARTI like you mentioned Eli about said man,

1972
01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:53,080
Speaker 1: every time my blacket come out, he's doing it. You

1973
01:40:53,160 --> 01:40:55,760
Speaker 1: don't put that in context. You know what I'm saying.

1974
01:40:56,120 --> 01:40:59,720
Speaker 1: Sometimes strike when a is hot. Then you've got some

1975
01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:01,880
Speaker 1: people who are consistent. I come and cent trade you

1976
01:41:01,920 --> 01:41:04,960
Speaker 1: we call a clan trade and penitential. The guard playing

1977
01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:07,160
Speaker 1: with some different young guys. He stopped. But I walk in.

1978
01:41:07,400 --> 01:41:09,400
Speaker 1: And why you stopped? He said, We don't do that

1979
01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:12,680
Speaker 1: around him. That's what you mean. He pulled a paperwork out.

1980
01:41:12,920 --> 01:41:17,360
Speaker 1: He say, listen, he is classified as MAX material. This

1981
01:41:17,439 --> 01:41:21,080
Speaker 1: is what that means. That means wherever he's at minimum,

1982
01:41:21,240 --> 01:41:24,519
Speaker 1: medium or MAX, he don't engage in certain things. No rape,

1983
01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:28,160
Speaker 1: no snitchet. Certain guys may be in a MAX and

1984
01:41:28,240 --> 01:41:30,200
Speaker 1: go with go with the business. That's what I'm saying.

1985
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:32,560
Speaker 1: Certain cats, and I don't care where you see. The

1986
01:41:32,640 --> 01:41:36,240
Speaker 1: Man's what I'm saying. I said, I called face one time.

1987
01:41:36,240 --> 01:41:37,840
Speaker 1: I called you one time. I was loud. I was

1988
01:41:37,840 --> 01:41:39,920
Speaker 1: talking about you. It was something they took my different artists.

1989
01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:42,600
Speaker 1: Artists say they get all this money from me, this

1990
01:41:42,680 --> 01:41:46,080
Speaker 1: and that, and you said someone interview like, yeah, man,

1991
01:41:46,120 --> 01:41:47,439
Speaker 1: you know I'm gonna do this and that, And I

1992
01:41:47,560 --> 01:41:50,640
Speaker 1: talked about I say face don't know, I said, faith man,

1993
01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:52,160
Speaker 1: you come from that cloth, I said, you like that

1994
01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:55,519
Speaker 1: usedon dog show when people come in. It's certain dogs

1995
01:41:55,560 --> 01:41:58,120
Speaker 1: they look at and certain dogs will be like the

1996
01:41:58,760 --> 01:42:01,280
Speaker 1: you know my daughter for conduced what I take, don't

1997
01:42:01,320 --> 01:42:05,200
Speaker 1: kill soon they I said, stay see us, it's you

1998
01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:07,160
Speaker 1: do too. It's it's certain things we can see them

1999
01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:11,000
Speaker 1: for like along count them. You know what I'm saying.

2000
01:42:11,200 --> 01:42:14,280
Speaker 1: They are it's a profile. We gotta we acknowledge that.

2001
01:42:14,320 --> 01:42:15,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, it's not based on this

2002
01:42:16,240 --> 01:42:18,719
Speaker 1: or person word causing and it's a blessing. The burden

2003
01:42:20,240 --> 01:42:21,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna an if you want to do, say the

2004
01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:23,320
Speaker 1: white man cars, listen to him all that pas in

2005
01:42:23,360 --> 01:42:26,200
Speaker 1: his voice, and it's some things so if he don't get,

2006
01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:28,280
Speaker 1: I don't get. We have to acknowledge that this is

2007
01:42:28,439 --> 01:42:30,000
Speaker 1: we have to be up. And it's certainly it's certainly

2008
01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:33,519
Speaker 1: benefits to being salt of for like a term, you

2009
01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:35,439
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, the deal. You know, you know

2010
01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:37,760
Speaker 1: we if we wanted to, we can say, don't know

2011
01:42:37,800 --> 01:42:40,519
Speaker 1: how to where you got regular coke and you got

2012
01:42:40,680 --> 01:42:44,519
Speaker 1: dad coke. We were some regular cookers and you got

2013
01:42:44,600 --> 01:42:50,120
Speaker 1: some uh successible subcessable Mama MU ask you that same

2014
01:42:50,240 --> 01:42:55,400
Speaker 1: question about Daniel's mannerisms. Were there any mannerisms that he

2015
01:42:55,560 --> 01:42:58,920
Speaker 1: just it was kind of spooky he was so close

2016
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:07,920
Speaker 1: to to Chairman Fred. Well, okay, let me say this.

2017
01:43:09,200 --> 01:43:13,679
Speaker 1: When they said they was gonna go to the West

2018
01:43:13,720 --> 01:43:17,080
Speaker 1: side of Chicago and it was late at night, and

2019
01:43:17,200 --> 01:43:19,920
Speaker 1: all this stuff they had never they hadn't been to

2020
01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:24,760
Speaker 1: Chicago before. And when Daniel and Dominique said that they

2021
01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:27,519
Speaker 1: was gonna go over there to the streets with Chairman

2022
01:43:27,600 --> 01:43:31,760
Speaker 1: Fred that time of night, I said, okay, okay, this

2023
01:43:31,960 --> 01:43:37,600
Speaker 1: is good. And I we sat at the table and

2024
01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:39,280
Speaker 1: I don't know how long we was at the day,

2025
01:43:39,280 --> 01:43:41,560
Speaker 1: it was some hours, so it was some hours. I

2026
01:43:41,640 --> 01:43:45,400
Speaker 1: was asking the questions and everything, and I saw I

2027
01:43:45,520 --> 01:43:50,360
Speaker 1: had Daniel Khalia's uh. He was thinking he was taking

2028
01:43:50,439 --> 01:43:53,920
Speaker 1: in all of this stuff not and it was like

2029
01:43:54,400 --> 01:43:58,519
Speaker 1: he learned about who Chairman Fred was, you know what

2030
01:43:58,600 --> 01:44:01,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And you could see he was, you know,

2031
01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:04,040
Speaker 1: like some chance to talk to me. I know you're

2032
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:06,960
Speaker 1: sorry for people to understand we're telling people about Chairman Fred,

2033
01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:09,760
Speaker 1: then it's not telling you about Chairman Fred, like they

2034
01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:12,160
Speaker 1: know something more than you. You know what I'm saying.

2035
01:44:12,680 --> 01:44:14,360
Speaker 1: I know it's hard to believe, but a lot of

2036
01:44:14,439 --> 01:44:17,320
Speaker 1: people do that. But I could actually see this man

2037
01:44:17,800 --> 01:44:20,360
Speaker 1: taking it in absorbing. I mean, he learned, and he

2038
01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:24,760
Speaker 1: going through the the process. And I saying, and when

2039
01:44:24,800 --> 01:44:27,120
Speaker 1: they before they went out, because I know I wasn't

2040
01:44:27,120 --> 01:44:29,120
Speaker 1: going out there that night, but they was going, I

2041
01:44:29,240 --> 01:44:34,320
Speaker 1: held him and I said, you got this. I'm not

2042
01:44:34,479 --> 01:44:39,679
Speaker 1: worried about whatever accented it. You got this. I knew it. Yeah,

2043
01:44:40,360 --> 01:44:42,560
Speaker 1: well you got you got this to Mama, and and

2044
01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:46,960
Speaker 1: thanks to you and your husband and your son, your

2045
01:44:47,040 --> 01:44:50,720
Speaker 1: whole family, your legacy. Uh man, we got something special too.

2046
01:44:51,080 --> 01:44:54,240
Speaker 1: But before before we go, we we got the Lady

2047
01:44:54,280 --> 01:44:58,880
Speaker 1: of Rage in the building. And I know, I know

2048
01:44:59,000 --> 01:45:01,200
Speaker 1: it's been it's been a minute that that we've we've

2049
01:45:01,240 --> 01:45:03,400
Speaker 1: been speaking on her being here, but we do want

2050
01:45:03,439 --> 01:45:05,600
Speaker 1: to bring a real quick and just have her to

2051
01:45:05,640 --> 01:45:11,439
Speaker 1: say something real quick perfectly. I'm about to go. Come on,

2052
01:45:11,840 --> 01:45:16,200
Speaker 1: come here, come here, and right out do yeah, come

2053
01:45:17,400 --> 01:45:22,360
Speaker 1: so so yeah, so you out tomorrow night. Okay, okay,

2054
01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:27,479
Speaker 1: all good, yeah, okay, okay, right on, right on, right on, So, Robin,

2055
01:45:28,439 --> 01:45:32,280
Speaker 1: how are you? I'm great yourself, I'm doing fine. You know,

2056
01:45:32,439 --> 01:45:34,960
Speaker 1: I want to extend my condolescence again, you know, to

2057
01:45:35,240 --> 01:45:38,720
Speaker 1: the loss of your father. Um, I didn't know your

2058
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:42,240
Speaker 1: father was was in Houston. Yes, my father, my mother,

2059
01:45:42,360 --> 01:45:47,600
Speaker 1: and my sister's, my brother's uh grandfather, aunt's uncle Sunnyside,

2060
01:45:47,640 --> 01:45:52,960
Speaker 1: South Acres. What I did not know that? Wow? And

2061
01:45:53,120 --> 01:45:56,719
Speaker 1: you would you had a role in the movie Judas

2062
01:45:56,760 --> 01:45:59,640
Speaker 1: and the Messiah. How did that come about? Well? Uh,

2063
01:45:59,760 --> 01:46:03,679
Speaker 1: in initially, like Chairman said earlier. So when I first

2064
01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:05,960
Speaker 1: met Chairman, Um, it was at a show. I was

2065
01:46:06,040 --> 01:46:10,240
Speaker 1: performing in Chicago and this guy came up to me

2066
01:46:10,640 --> 01:46:13,720
Speaker 1: and he was saying something, but I really didn't really

2067
01:46:13,800 --> 01:46:17,560
Speaker 1: wasn't paying attention. But then I heard Fred Hampton and

2068
01:46:17,600 --> 01:46:19,639
Speaker 1: he might have said Chairman, but I heard Fred Hampton.

2069
01:46:20,320 --> 01:46:22,160
Speaker 1: And because at first it was like want want wamp

2070
01:46:22,439 --> 01:46:25,120
Speaker 1: want wom Fred Hampton. And I turned around. I said,

2071
01:46:25,160 --> 01:46:28,599
Speaker 1: Fred Hampton, black panther, Fred Hampton, And he said, yeah,

2072
01:46:28,960 --> 01:46:31,479
Speaker 1: his son wants to meet you. I said his son

2073
01:46:32,240 --> 01:46:34,240
Speaker 1: and he said yeah. And I looked over there at

2074
01:46:34,320 --> 01:46:36,479
Speaker 1: him and I said, look at him over there looking

2075
01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:38,519
Speaker 1: like Donnie had the way, because I was, you know,

2076
01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:41,680
Speaker 1: Donnie had away used to the Apple had too so um.

2077
01:46:42,400 --> 01:46:44,400
Speaker 1: Right away he told me, you know, he liked my

2078
01:46:44,479 --> 01:46:47,040
Speaker 1: work and that they were working on a movie and

2079
01:46:47,360 --> 01:46:52,000
Speaker 1: he wanted me to play his mother and most deaf

2080
01:46:52,240 --> 01:46:55,680
Speaker 1: y'all seen babe was to play Chairman Senior. And he

2081
01:46:55,800 --> 01:46:58,200
Speaker 1: called Mama Core and she talked to me and it

2082
01:46:58,320 --> 01:47:02,080
Speaker 1: was like I was on so like he said earlier,

2083
01:47:02,240 --> 01:47:06,679
Speaker 1: I did a version of when Mama Cool. I believe

2084
01:47:06,760 --> 01:47:08,599
Speaker 1: it was um. I don't know if it was eyes

2085
01:47:08,640 --> 01:47:11,920
Speaker 1: on the prize where she was recounting what happened. So

2086
01:47:12,200 --> 01:47:16,280
Speaker 1: right away I looked at that part over and over

2087
01:47:16,400 --> 01:47:18,000
Speaker 1: and over again because I said, this is gonna be

2088
01:47:18,080 --> 01:47:20,479
Speaker 1: the biggest role in my life, like I gotta get

2089
01:47:20,560 --> 01:47:23,479
Speaker 1: I was so amped and hype, and I said, I

2090
01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:27,000
Speaker 1: gotta get everything. So I learned everything even when she

2091
01:47:27,520 --> 01:47:30,280
Speaker 1: talked and she might have turned her head. She had

2092
01:47:30,760 --> 01:47:33,840
Speaker 1: Chairman as a kid, so I was using his His

2093
01:47:34,000 --> 01:47:37,400
Speaker 1: grandson was playing, and so the way she shifted him,

2094
01:47:37,840 --> 01:47:40,879
Speaker 1: I shifted the baby. When she was describing the bullets

2095
01:47:40,960 --> 01:47:43,280
Speaker 1: going through and she was doing her hands like this,

2096
01:47:43,439 --> 01:47:46,640
Speaker 1: I got it down perfectly. I studied that because I

2097
01:47:46,760 --> 01:47:49,760
Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna I'm not just a rapper, that's

2098
01:47:50,080 --> 01:47:52,599
Speaker 1: you know, an actress. I'm an actress. That happens to wrap.

2099
01:47:52,760 --> 01:47:55,240
Speaker 1: Acting is what I always wanted to do. But I

2100
01:47:55,400 --> 01:47:57,720
Speaker 1: just rapping was something that I could do as well.

2101
01:47:57,840 --> 01:48:00,519
Speaker 1: So I was like, man, I'm gonna do this thing, right,

2102
01:48:01,200 --> 01:48:05,519
Speaker 1: the legacy, the to be able to do her. I

2103
01:48:05,680 --> 01:48:08,640
Speaker 1: was like, I'm going to do this. So that's how.

2104
01:48:08,760 --> 01:48:12,800
Speaker 1: And then at the then at the meeting, they were

2105
01:48:12,880 --> 01:48:15,200
Speaker 1: just talking about I was there and you know, I

2106
01:48:15,320 --> 01:48:20,200
Speaker 1: was discussing everything. So they were going with Dominique and

2107
01:48:20,720 --> 01:48:23,120
Speaker 1: you know, that was that was independent. Oh yeah, oh

2108
01:48:23,200 --> 01:48:26,080
Speaker 1: that's right. That's right. That's right, that's right, that's right,

2109
01:48:26,200 --> 01:48:31,479
Speaker 1: that's right, that's right, that's right. Before that came about. Yeah,

2110
01:48:31,520 --> 01:48:33,360
Speaker 1: that was that was that. This just put in context.

2111
01:48:33,920 --> 01:48:35,800
Speaker 1: That was a visual you know initially and we got

2112
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:38,000
Speaker 1: some of your footage too, but that was independent, go

2113
01:48:38,200 --> 01:48:41,559
Speaker 1: back into that so you know, I mean we kept

2114
01:48:41,600 --> 01:48:44,880
Speaker 1: it there and then you know, fast forward, fast forward.

2115
01:48:44,920 --> 01:48:49,120
Speaker 1: I was on the set the Black Messireh and they

2116
01:48:49,200 --> 01:48:51,800
Speaker 1: came to me one day and was like, we're gonna,

2117
01:48:52,160 --> 01:48:55,000
Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna just give you write you in

2118
01:48:55,200 --> 01:48:56,880
Speaker 1: and give you no no no no means to them

2119
01:48:56,920 --> 01:49:00,479
Speaker 1: to say something before that, Oh Initially she said to

2120
01:49:00,520 --> 01:49:05,120
Speaker 1: play another role mother spur Spurge and Jake winning. However,

2121
01:49:05,240 --> 01:49:07,320
Speaker 1: it was constant tug and pull with us, like you know,

2122
01:49:07,520 --> 01:49:09,560
Speaker 1: you know, something like everything from in the movie and

2123
01:49:10,280 --> 01:49:13,160
Speaker 1: the title to have others. I mean, I was going business,

2124
01:49:13,439 --> 01:49:15,960
Speaker 1: so damn glad. Yeah I changed that title. Oh no,

2125
01:49:16,680 --> 01:49:21,560
Speaker 1: it was about old listen that legacy, and then a

2126
01:49:21,640 --> 01:49:24,320
Speaker 1: lot like other organizations. I got checked in with them, saying,

2127
01:49:24,360 --> 01:49:27,200
Speaker 1: which you want to be depicted in here? And they're like, no,

2128
01:49:27,800 --> 01:49:30,080
Speaker 1: do you understood? I just don't. I'm really big about

2129
01:49:30,080 --> 01:49:32,599
Speaker 1: respecting other people's legacies, you know what I'm saying, even

2130
01:49:32,640 --> 01:49:36,280
Speaker 1: if I'm saying I'm real because once you balance, you know,

2131
01:49:36,280 --> 01:49:38,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying that, like everything else is off balance, you

2132
01:49:38,439 --> 01:49:40,439
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So certain organs they said, no,

2133
01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:41,840
Speaker 1: we don't know. We didn't got the green like us.

2134
01:49:42,320 --> 01:49:44,439
Speaker 1: I said, that's a no goal and they couldn't do it.

2135
01:49:44,520 --> 01:49:46,600
Speaker 1: So I said, well are we not love with it?

2136
01:49:46,920 --> 01:49:51,000
Speaker 1: And then so man, they I mean they, I mean

2137
01:49:51,120 --> 01:49:53,680
Speaker 1: there's a pressial position she took like it was, you know,

2138
01:49:53,760 --> 01:49:55,920
Speaker 1: saying it's no goal of people like man, you're gonna

2139
01:49:56,000 --> 01:49:59,719
Speaker 1: you know, you you're in the movie. But I'm fortunate

2140
01:50:00,120 --> 01:50:02,760
Speaker 1: that principal forces, you know what I'm saying, And then

2141
01:50:02,840 --> 01:50:04,720
Speaker 1: so they don't we got that struggle address, you know

2142
01:50:04,760 --> 01:50:07,280
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It was a stalemate. Get that address, Daniels.

2143
01:50:07,280 --> 01:50:09,160
Speaker 1: We did down control. So okay, we're gonna get in there.

2144
01:50:09,360 --> 01:50:11,600
Speaker 1: And you know it's in the scene when Chairman come

2145
01:50:11,640 --> 01:50:14,000
Speaker 1: out come was released from prison, you know what, saying,

2146
01:50:14,040 --> 01:50:18,559
Speaker 1: She's dead and how to when they approach you, your

2147
01:50:18,640 --> 01:50:21,920
Speaker 1: thoughts and how did things go from there? I thought

2148
01:50:21,960 --> 01:50:26,240
Speaker 1: it was good, but I also I checked to see,

2149
01:50:26,560 --> 01:50:29,760
Speaker 1: you know, does everyone agree with this? Are y'all cool

2150
01:50:29,800 --> 01:50:32,320
Speaker 1: with this? Y'all cool with it? I'm cool with it.

2151
01:50:32,360 --> 01:50:34,439
Speaker 1: I'm not cool with it, then I'm not. I'm not

2152
01:50:34,560 --> 01:50:37,679
Speaker 1: doing it. So everybody agreed, and I was like, okay,

2153
01:50:38,240 --> 01:50:42,120
Speaker 1: and um, it was a chairman, Like you said, Chairman

2154
01:50:42,240 --> 01:50:45,200
Speaker 1: was coming out of prison, and I was a friend

2155
01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:49,400
Speaker 1: the character was a friend of him of his and

2156
01:50:49,640 --> 01:50:53,040
Speaker 1: I had a son and my son wanted to join

2157
01:50:53,120 --> 01:50:56,560
Speaker 1: the party and I already lost the son, and so

2158
01:50:56,760 --> 01:50:59,360
Speaker 1: I was torn between you know, I knew what the

2159
01:50:59,439 --> 01:51:03,200
Speaker 1: party good for and the possibility that my son could

2160
01:51:03,240 --> 01:51:07,080
Speaker 1: be taken away from me. Uh, and I was torn

2161
01:51:07,240 --> 01:51:12,240
Speaker 1: and Chairman and I were talking about my my concern

2162
01:51:12,360 --> 01:51:17,240
Speaker 1: about my son wanting to join the party. Ironically, my

2163
01:51:17,439 --> 01:51:24,360
Speaker 1: son played my son in the movie. You know what

2164
01:51:24,360 --> 01:51:28,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Yeah, just an experience. Yeah yeah. So are

2165
01:51:28,840 --> 01:51:31,479
Speaker 1: you gonna do anymore movies? Have you got anything like

2166
01:51:31,760 --> 01:51:35,600
Speaker 1: coming up? Well? I'm doing something right now with the

2167
01:51:35,880 --> 01:51:39,519
Speaker 1: director in Atlanta named Man Robinson and his series is

2168
01:51:39,600 --> 01:51:41,880
Speaker 1: called on ten and he he does a lot of

2169
01:51:42,000 --> 01:51:45,280
Speaker 1: things and so I have, UM, I have some things

2170
01:51:45,360 --> 01:51:48,879
Speaker 1: going on with him right now. I am a country champion,

2171
01:51:49,560 --> 01:51:53,760
Speaker 1: a judge of sorts for music competition called the Mike

2172
01:51:53,880 --> 01:51:58,599
Speaker 1: Africa where the contestants, UM, the artists from Africa are

2173
01:51:58,760 --> 01:52:02,280
Speaker 1: displaying their artists re in talents and um this is

2174
01:52:02,360 --> 01:52:05,920
Speaker 1: season two and it just started. The premiere was today

2175
01:52:06,520 --> 01:52:08,720
Speaker 1: and that's you know. To to see that, you go

2176
01:52:08,840 --> 01:52:11,160
Speaker 1: to take back the Mic dot com and you can

2177
01:52:11,200 --> 01:52:15,160
Speaker 1: see these phenomenal artists from Africa. UM. Chairman also mentioned

2178
01:52:15,200 --> 01:52:17,200
Speaker 1: that I am the co host of freem Or Radio,

2179
01:52:17,600 --> 01:52:23,360
Speaker 1: which is every Wednesday, UM four thirty Pacific. Time times

2180
01:52:23,479 --> 01:52:27,120
Speaker 1: change sometimes so, but mainly it's four thirty Pacific, seven

2181
01:52:27,200 --> 01:52:33,599
Speaker 1: thirty Eastern, six thirty Central and definitely. Acting is something

2182
01:52:33,760 --> 01:52:37,880
Speaker 1: that I do want to get deeper into. I feel

2183
01:52:37,920 --> 01:52:40,439
Speaker 1: like the roles I've done thus far, I'm not knocking them,

2184
01:52:40,720 --> 01:52:43,240
Speaker 1: but I don't want to be typecast into the bully

2185
01:52:43,360 --> 01:52:46,680
Speaker 1: type role. I want to show my range. Speaking, I

2186
01:52:46,800 --> 01:52:49,600
Speaker 1: was just saying, we did. Maybe people don't know that

2187
01:52:49,720 --> 01:52:52,040
Speaker 1: we did a movie together, you and I. Yeah, yeah,

2188
01:52:52,520 --> 01:52:58,080
Speaker 1: I would like to from your resume, but hey, we

2189
01:52:58,200 --> 01:53:00,439
Speaker 1: did do we did? We we did? We was supposed

2190
01:53:00,520 --> 01:53:03,479
Speaker 1: that's right, that's right. You can only you can only

2191
01:53:04,760 --> 01:53:08,320
Speaker 1: you only work with what's written. So we did our parts.

2192
01:53:08,960 --> 01:53:11,800
Speaker 1: But it's beautiful to see you, you know, in your

2193
01:53:11,880 --> 01:53:14,400
Speaker 1: element like that, and you are you are a natural actress,

2194
01:53:14,600 --> 01:53:16,519
Speaker 1: you know, like when you see you on the screen,

2195
01:53:16,720 --> 01:53:21,040
Speaker 1: it's very believable. Whatever role you're playing, it's very believable.

2196
01:53:21,200 --> 01:53:24,240
Speaker 1: So you got that range, and I could easily see

2197
01:53:24,400 --> 01:53:28,640
Speaker 1: you like actually carrying a movie. Well, shoot, I'd like

2198
01:53:28,760 --> 01:53:31,439
Speaker 1: to carry slinging on my bag and let's go carry.

2199
01:53:32,720 --> 01:53:34,479
Speaker 1: And how and how is your health? You know, because

2200
01:53:34,479 --> 01:53:36,760
Speaker 1: I know you had a health scale, so my health

2201
01:53:36,880 --> 01:53:41,840
Speaker 1: has um. I still deal with different things. But since

2202
01:53:41,880 --> 01:53:45,240
Speaker 1: I've moved back to Virginia, I have not had the

2203
01:53:46,560 --> 01:53:49,400
Speaker 1: the fainting spells and the things like that. I haven't

2204
01:53:49,439 --> 01:53:52,240
Speaker 1: had that. Um. I deal with anxiety here and there,

2205
01:53:52,680 --> 01:53:55,519
Speaker 1: but for the most part, I try to put that

2206
01:53:55,600 --> 01:53:56,920
Speaker 1: in the back of my mind. I try to just

2207
01:53:57,080 --> 01:54:00,599
Speaker 1: keep pushing and keep going and don't give it life

2208
01:54:01,000 --> 01:54:04,000
Speaker 1: like I just gotta keep But sometimes it are like, hey,

2209
01:54:04,960 --> 01:54:07,280
Speaker 1: I forgot about don't forget about me. I'm still here,

2210
01:54:07,320 --> 01:54:11,479
Speaker 1: but I'm like, lay down, drinks of water, take it

2211
01:54:11,560 --> 01:54:13,920
Speaker 1: easy for a while, and get back up and keep

2212
01:54:13,960 --> 01:54:16,960
Speaker 1: it moving. Is it frustrating for people to not understand

2213
01:54:17,080 --> 01:54:20,760
Speaker 1: that celebrities have anxiety? You know that because a lot

2214
01:54:20,800 --> 01:54:23,719
Speaker 1: of times they say, what you mediade, you know, your celebrity,

2215
01:54:23,760 --> 01:54:29,320
Speaker 1: you're famous, you got money or whatever. Anxiety? Because I

2216
01:54:29,520 --> 01:54:32,400
Speaker 1: used to feel like anxiety, what you're anxious about it?

2217
01:54:32,440 --> 01:54:36,520
Speaker 1: I didn't understand what anxiety was. Anxiety as a whole monster.

2218
01:54:36,640 --> 01:54:39,440
Speaker 1: It's not just about, oh, you're burying about something. It

2219
01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:44,040
Speaker 1: takes It takes a physical effect on you. It can

2220
01:54:44,120 --> 01:54:47,880
Speaker 1: make you feel like there's imminent danger, something is about

2221
01:54:47,920 --> 01:54:49,560
Speaker 1: to happen. You want to run out the room. You

2222
01:54:49,680 --> 01:54:52,320
Speaker 1: might start sweating and you have no control over it.

2223
01:54:52,440 --> 01:54:56,400
Speaker 1: You might, you know, pass out, you might it's things

2224
01:54:56,480 --> 01:54:59,400
Speaker 1: that I'm learning about anxiety to that that I never

2225
01:54:59,560 --> 01:55:03,200
Speaker 1: even understood. So this thing that I've been going through

2226
01:55:03,960 --> 01:55:07,840
Speaker 1: is giving me UM. I definitely have to respect it

2227
01:55:08,520 --> 01:55:10,880
Speaker 1: and I have to do my research and learn about

2228
01:55:10,920 --> 01:55:14,360
Speaker 1: it because it's, um it's a real thing and it's

2229
01:55:14,440 --> 01:55:19,320
Speaker 1: not something to take lightly. Um Yeah, it's it's it's

2230
01:55:19,320 --> 01:55:22,360
Speaker 1: a real thing. And as far as people being celebrities

2231
01:55:22,440 --> 01:55:26,000
Speaker 1: and people being having money or not having money, you're

2232
01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:29,760
Speaker 1: still human. Things go on with your body, especially if

2233
01:55:29,840 --> 01:55:32,080
Speaker 1: you don't take care of yourself. If you take care

2234
01:55:32,080 --> 01:55:35,880
Speaker 1: of yourself, maybe these things still might transpire. But you know,

2235
01:55:36,080 --> 01:55:38,600
Speaker 1: the health I wanted to do something some years back

2236
01:55:38,680 --> 01:55:41,720
Speaker 1: with me and my friend pook Um called the Health

2237
01:55:41,760 --> 01:55:44,960
Speaker 1: of hip Hop where we discuss these things where, you know,

2238
01:55:45,080 --> 01:55:48,000
Speaker 1: people in hip hop we drink, we smoke, we party,

2239
01:55:48,240 --> 01:55:50,840
Speaker 1: you know, we we we feel like we're invincible, and

2240
01:55:51,000 --> 01:55:54,080
Speaker 1: then things start to happen that we may have done

2241
01:55:54,520 --> 01:55:57,640
Speaker 1: years before, but now they're catching up with us, and

2242
01:55:57,760 --> 01:56:00,720
Speaker 1: now we have to, you know, take better care of ourself.

2243
01:56:00,760 --> 01:56:02,960
Speaker 1: My grandmother used to always tell me, rob and take

2244
01:56:03,000 --> 01:56:07,040
Speaker 1: care of yourself. I think that's so underrated, that phrase,

2245
01:56:07,160 --> 01:56:09,760
Speaker 1: take care of yourself I'm gonna take care, take care

2246
01:56:09,840 --> 01:56:14,240
Speaker 1: of yourself, drink your water, exercise, get your sleep. I

2247
01:56:14,320 --> 01:56:17,360
Speaker 1: think sleep is so very important, which I lack a

2248
01:56:17,440 --> 01:56:20,800
Speaker 1: lot of, but I tried to get it in. But

2249
01:56:21,200 --> 01:56:23,240
Speaker 1: I mean the hours you get a night there, it

2250
01:56:23,400 --> 01:56:26,000
Speaker 1: depends on a good night, I might get eight. On

2251
01:56:26,120 --> 01:56:29,480
Speaker 1: a bad night, I might get to or none. My

2252
01:56:29,600 --> 01:56:32,000
Speaker 1: son was fussing at me the other day because I

2253
01:56:32,120 --> 01:56:34,520
Speaker 1: drove here and he's like, Mam, he said, you're not sleep.

2254
01:56:34,560 --> 01:56:36,000
Speaker 1: You go to sleep. You haven't been to sleep in

2255
01:56:36,040 --> 01:56:40,880
Speaker 1: two days. So sometimes I'm up like that. Yeah. The

2256
01:56:40,960 --> 01:56:42,760
Speaker 1: only time I'm up like that is like when I'm

2257
01:56:43,000 --> 01:56:45,800
Speaker 1: actually working on the record. I'm working on the record,

2258
01:56:45,840 --> 01:56:47,960
Speaker 1: I can stay up like that. But anything else, I

2259
01:56:48,080 --> 01:56:51,000
Speaker 1: find time to get some type of sleep, even if

2260
01:56:51,040 --> 01:56:53,680
Speaker 1: it's four hours. And I don't sleep when I have

2261
01:56:53,800 --> 01:56:55,680
Speaker 1: a flight to catch the next day. But it don't

2262
01:56:55,680 --> 01:56:58,360
Speaker 1: matter what time the fight is. If I have a

2263
01:56:58,400 --> 01:57:00,840
Speaker 1: flight the next day, I can't sleep. I'm like that.

2264
01:57:01,800 --> 01:57:03,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's something that's going on the next day

2265
01:57:03,960 --> 01:57:07,200
Speaker 1: keeps me up the night before. I don't know why,

2266
01:57:08,080 --> 01:57:16,120
Speaker 1: but yeah, So, ladies and gentlemen, Lady Rage Chairman Fred

2267
01:57:16,480 --> 01:57:23,800
Speaker 1: Hampton Junior right on in Jerry in the building. Man,

2268
01:57:24,120 --> 01:57:27,880
Speaker 1: what a legacy y'all have built. What a legacy. And

2269
01:57:28,000 --> 01:57:30,760
Speaker 1: we respect y'all so much, We love y'all so much.

2270
01:57:31,280 --> 01:57:33,440
Speaker 1: And anything that we could do right here with anything

2271
01:57:33,520 --> 01:57:36,160
Speaker 1: that I can personally do to help, man, just reach out.

2272
01:57:36,240 --> 01:57:38,360
Speaker 1: Just let me know, and I'm gonna reach out to you.

2273
01:57:38,360 --> 01:57:41,680
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna wait for you to call me. We did.

2274
01:57:42,200 --> 01:57:43,840
Speaker 1: We can get this. We can get this. Uh. We

2275
01:57:44,280 --> 01:57:45,680
Speaker 1: we got a radio show we could do. We could

2276
01:57:46,200 --> 01:57:49,600
Speaker 1: tighten up our ranks about the podcast and the Hampton House.

2277
01:57:50,320 --> 01:57:52,320
Speaker 1: We've been taken up there. Man, do some tag team

2278
01:57:52,400 --> 01:57:55,840
Speaker 1: with you on that? Man, pick your brain, come down down.

2279
01:57:56,120 --> 01:57:58,920
Speaker 1: How does somebody else get down with what you got

2280
01:57:59,040 --> 01:58:04,840
Speaker 1: going on? With the party cubs and the Prisoners of

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