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Speaker 1: Ron An Aanian. You're charging your car in the parking

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Speaker 1: lot of your favorite wool martor Target, or the Garden

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Speaker 1: State Parkway, you know, service center, or wherever you are,

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Speaker 1: and you know you're a single person, You're a single woman.

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Speaker 1: You're out at ten o'clock at night. Are you comfortable

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Speaker 1: sitting there in the dark for thirty minutes or forty minutes?

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Speaker 2: Yerever the case?

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Speaker 1: My best taking the car doctor. Is there a black

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Speaker 1: plastic cover over the top of the engine.

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Speaker 3: I don't think so, know?

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Speaker 1: Okay, you can see the valve cover of all the

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Speaker 1: wiring right. It's possible that what you're hearing is a

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Speaker 1: normal sound and they left that insulator panel off.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the radio home of ron Anian, the Car Doctor.

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Speaker 4: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the

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Speaker 4: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair.

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Speaker 4: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up

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Speaker 4: the phone and call in. The garage doors.

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Speaker 1: Are open, but I am here to say take your

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Speaker 1: calls at eight five five five six oh ninety nine

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Speaker 4: Running.

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Speaker 1: Did you talk to your kids this week? You know

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Speaker 1: about cars? You have a responsibility to do that, by

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Speaker 1: the way, not necessarily just your kids, your your relatives,

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Speaker 1: your family. Do you explain to anybody a younger driver

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Speaker 1: card your You know, you've take them over and lift

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Speaker 1: the hood. If you have that ability, if you have

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Speaker 1: that knowledge, you know, it's your obligation. It really is.

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Speaker 1: You know, they don't have to sit down and listen

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Speaker 1: to this radio show every week. It would be nice

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Speaker 1: if they did, because I think they'd walk away with

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Speaker 1: an education. But I think it's our obligation, as those

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Speaker 1: that are in the know, that know about automobiles and

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Speaker 1: how they operate and how to take care of them,

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Speaker 1: to explain it to those that don't if they're interested,

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Speaker 1: if they have interest, and I think they have interest.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 1: I had a situation in the shop this week where

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Speaker 1: shop like, you know, what is all that? I remember

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Speaker 1: those days. I remember the the immense curiosity of what

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Speaker 1: And okay, so I was acclimated towards it, right, I

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Speaker 1: you know, look what I became. But is the next

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Speaker 1: we not nurturing it? And it doesn't have to be

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Speaker 1: a big, fancy, drawn out formal education. It might just be, hey,

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Speaker 1: do you know how to check the oil? Do you

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Speaker 1: people that drive cars, young and old, male, female of

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Speaker 1: mechanical disconnect for some people. No pun intended that they

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Speaker 1: They could have a problem just you know, they're stuck,

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Speaker 1: they need to check something. How do they jump start

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Speaker 1: what I have to say. Hey, here's how you do this, here's.

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Speaker 2: How you do that.

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Speaker 1: I may not come out with it right away. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: but I won't let anybody. You know, I've been in

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Speaker 1: And I, you know, we have that conversation about you know,

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Speaker 1: And we had that lesson in the driveway. Here's how

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Speaker 2: This week.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Auto Zone studio. Here's Ron. Hey,

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Speaker 1: back to the phones. Run listen to every show, and

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Speaker 1: I thank you for teaching me so much. My question

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Speaker 1: actually is an OBD three. There was conversation of it,

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, a good ten years ago. They wanted to

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Speaker 1: All right, you know, we're just going to run out

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Speaker 1: of space there. There's just only so many so much wire,

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Speaker 1: building some internal combustion engine vehicles. But you didn't hear

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Speaker 1: and talk to Matt and Ohio. Matthew, you around with

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Speaker 1: Ron and Andy and the car doctor. Sir, how can

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Speaker 5: Hey? Ron, I've had kind of a streak of battle

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Speaker 1: But I'm sorry.

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Speaker 5: question about that is it's a non interference engine. Yes,

432
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 5: and that's basically yeah, go ahead, just put the you know,

433
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:20,080
Speaker 5: put the cranks and the cams. Just turn them, uh

434
00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 5: in normal rotation, turn them until the nachas line up. Basically,

435
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 5: that's it, right.

436
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,400
Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, have you ever done have you ever done

437
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:29,400
Speaker 1: a time avelt Matt.

438
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,680
Speaker 5: I did on ninety six Honda Civic.

439
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:38,160
Speaker 1: Okay, so the back, the back sprockets, the hard one.

440
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 1: It's you sort of need a mirror, all right too.

441
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 1: You know you're going to take a mirror and you're

442
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 1: going to stand over it because if you look at

443
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 1: it from the side, and it'll always look half a

444
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 1: tooth off. So you want to stand in front of

445
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 1: it with a mirror and look through the mirror to

446
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 1: see the mark against the valve cover, all right, and

447
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,439
Speaker 1: and line it up. What I will do is I

448
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 1: will I will paint my sprocket at top dead for

449
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 1: the cam up top in the back. All right. So

450
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 1: here's how I approached the job. If the belt didn't break, obviously,

451
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,400
Speaker 1: I line my marks up beforehand. I've had cases where

452
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,680
Speaker 1: the belt's broke. I've had plenty of these toe in

453
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 1: off the road. I've never seen that generation bend a valve.

454
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 1: Is it possible, Yeah, anything's possible. What made it break?

455
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 1: You know, which is did something come apart in the engine.

456
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 1: That's a different conversation. So but you know, if all

457
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: it did was break from age and you know, lack

458
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 1: of change, then yeah, you should be fine, I make

459
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 1: my marks up top. I'll obviously make my mark on

460
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 1: the crank, okay. And then when I know my back

461
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,679
Speaker 1: Sprocket is lined up and I'm on top dead, I

462
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,159
Speaker 1: will always go underneath and I will put and I

463
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,160
Speaker 1: got in the habit of doing this. I will make

464
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 1: a mark. I will pick a tooth underneath, and I

465
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 1: will paint the mark there. I will just make my

466
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 1: own timing mark. I'll just take it. And I'm just

467
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 1: using red nail polish. If you ever come to the shop,

468
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 1: I've got red nail polish in my shop. But it

469
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 1: doesn't mean there's anything funny going on. I just happen

470
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 1: to like red nail polish. And this way when I'm underneath,

471
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 1: because what I will do is I will look at

472
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 1: that red dot underneath and go, okay, that's lined up.

473
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 1: You know, I know the top one is clearly lined up.

474
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 1: For the front cam, I can look at the crank

475
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: and then I pulled a pin. I pulled a hand

476
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,400
Speaker 1: grenade pin on the tension and I know I'm good.

477
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 1: All right, here's where you're going to have the problem. Okay,

478
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 1: that that cam Sprocket for the front, for the forward

479
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 1: cam it's either a seventeen I think it's a seventeen.

480
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 1: I think it's a seventeen millimeter bolt, all right, seventeen

481
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 1: millimeter socket you need? Does the car have ABS?

482
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 5: Yes?

483
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 1: All right? So that that hurts because you can't get

484
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 1: a gun in there, but that seventeen millimeter You've got

485
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,439
Speaker 1: to take that front cam sprocket off to get the

486
00:23:55,480 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 1: water pump out, all right. So to do that that

487
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 1: you need a spanner wrench, which is basically it's a

488
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 1: it's just a y shaped tool with two pins that

489
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,479
Speaker 1: will hold the sprocket and you're just you're gonna need

490
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 1: the biggest mother breaker bar you ever saw in your

491
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: life to break that bolt loose. It's a pain in

492
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 1: the neck, all right. Now, Normally I do this before

493
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,400
Speaker 1: I take the belt off, but in your case, that's

494
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 1: not gonna happen. So you know, I have had some success,

495
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,959
Speaker 1: you know if and we've we've spent the money. Snap

496
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 1: On actually makes some very good cordless impact stuff and

497
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 1: we will use their small three eighths gun and you

498
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: can kind of wedge it in there away from the

499
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: ABS controller and pop the bolt that way. If you

500
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 1: can get it on all right, if you can borrow,

501
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 1: if you can borrow a cordless impact that that would

502
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: actually help you a great deal. But that camp sprocket's

503
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: probably the biggest snake in the woodpile. The front sprocket

504
00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 1: has to come off the there's gonna be four ten

505
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: millimeter bolts that hold the tin cover to the head.

506
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 1: They have to come out. You kind of wedge it

507
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: up out of the way. You take the water pump

508
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:14,360
Speaker 1: bolts out. There's gonna be six nuts and four bolts

509
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: or three nuts and four bolts, I'm trying to remember,

510
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: but it's just nuts and bolts. You've got to take

511
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 1: the lower tension apart. So the way the way you

512
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 1: would normally take this apart is you would take the

513
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 1: hydraulic tension are out and that would take the tension

514
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: off the belt, and then the belt comes off and

515
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 1: then you would disassemble. So you're gonna need the Allen

516
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: socket for the hydraulic tension or pulley that has to

517
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 1: come off. Make sure you don't lose the little washer

518
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 1: that's behind that tension or it's a pretty thick washer.

519
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 1: It's a spacer almost all right, So that you assemble

520
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 1: it the same way. You're gonna have to take off obviously,

521
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 1: the idler, Pulley Camsprocket tin cover, water pumping bolts, and

522
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: you're good. And the last thing that's going to fight

523
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: you is that top motor mount. You know you're going

524
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: to need torques bit sockets to pull the studs out

525
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: to get the entire mount out that mount and cover

526
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: the brace. It'll make sense if you look at a

527
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 1: picture that brace has to come off to clear everything

528
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: out of the vehicle.

529
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 2: All right.

530
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 1: The good news is you don't have to support the engine.

531
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: The engine will stay right where it is. You can

532
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 1: just you know, take a part as you see fit

533
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:30,239
Speaker 1: as you need to.

534
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 2: All right.

535
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: You know it's a nuts and bolts job. It's not hard.

536
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: It's one of the more pleasant timing belts to do, actually,

537
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 1: because some of them are just a pain in the neck,

538
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,679
Speaker 1: you know. So you know, just just just line up

539
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 1: your tools beforehand. I've done hundreds of them and you

540
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 1: know it's you know, Knockwood. They've all been successful, so

541
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 1: to speak. So I'll tell you what, Matt, sit right

542
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: where you are, a stay tuned. Let me pull over, take

543
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: a pause. When we come back we'll answer your second question.

544
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:01,959
Speaker 1: I'm running an of the Car Doctor. We're back right

545
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: after this.

546
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 2: Don't go away.

547
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: Welcome back running the Car Doctor. Here at eight five

548
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: five five six zero nine nine zero zero. We still

549
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: have met on the phone in Ohio. Matt, you're there.

550
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: Last part of my timing belt commentary is do you

551
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: know what a binder clip is? Metal binder clip you

552
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: would use like for filing papers. Yeah, okay, yeah, be

553
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: so when you when you put the belt on, Now

554
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,719
Speaker 1: watch the back sprocket, all right, make sure the belt

555
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: goes on the sprocket. There's a there's a divot that

556
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 1: sticks up out of the tin cover that if you're

557
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: not careful, the belt gets caught on. So you think

558
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: the belt is on correctly, and it's not. It's kind

559
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: of hanging out in space. It's just you got to

560
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: make sure it's just tucked in. If you look at

561
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 1: it with the mirror, you'll see it's it's it's nothing

562
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 1: to be a Just be sure the belt's on the

563
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: sprocket by a good belt kit. Gates makes a great

564
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: belt kit, all right, it'll be belt water, pump tension,

565
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: or the whole Shmeir all right, autozonal have it. Get

566
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 1: a gates belt kit because it'll have the marks on it.

567
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: It will have a line where the timing mark is

568
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: on the rear sprocket. Then as you put it on

569
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 1: the on the idler underneath, and then put it on

570
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: the front sprocket, there's another mark there and it will

571
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: line up that way. You'll know that the cams are

572
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 1: timed correctly. If the front cam is timed right and

573
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 1: you're on the right tooth and the backcam is timed right.

574
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: If it was off a tooth, you wouldn't have that

575
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,719
Speaker 1: line line up with the mark on the camsprocket, if

576
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: that makes sense, right.

577
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,959
Speaker 5: Yeah, as long as the cams are lined up.

578
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: As long as the cams are lined up, if if

579
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: the marks are right, the cams are right, it can't

580
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: be wrong. And then use the binder clip. Get a

581
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: small metal binder clip to hold the belt on so

582
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: it's not falling off, all right, and then work your way.

583
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: I always start with the back sprocket idler front sprocket.

584
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: It gets tight, okay, and that's how you know you're on,

585
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: because it's it's gonna be tight, all right. And then

586
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna put it on the lower idler, all right,

587
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: then work your way around the crank, and then when

588
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: you get to the tensioner, the tensioner is going to

589
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: have all the have all the give in it that

590
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: the tensioner has all the slop in it, all right.

591
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: You don't want your slop between the crank and the

592
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: cam on the forward side because that means you're off

593
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: a tooth or you don't have yourself timed right. And

594
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: when you pull the pin on the tensioner, you're going

595
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: to take the slop out of it, and something's gonna move,

596
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: so all the slop goes to the back.

597
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 2: All right.

598
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: Now, the reason I explained all it to you this

599
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: way is in about two hours this show is going

600
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,719
Speaker 1: to become a podcast. You just got your own personal

601
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: instruction from it. You can play it back seven times

602
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: if you want. Right, all right, so you know this.

603
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 5: Way, probably ron to before I start putting stuff back together.

604
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 5: Maybe turn it by hand. Yeah, you can turn everything and.

605
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: Make turn everything, you know, turn the crank, turn the cam,

606
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: as long as everything spins over. But I'll I'd be surprised, Matt,

607
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: I really would, all right, unless something internally failed and

608
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: that's what broke the belt. But you know, you'll look

609
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: at the belt. The belt will be dried out, the

610
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: belt will be chewed up. You know what. You know,

611
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: did the belt just snap or did it shred? How

612
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: did it fail?

613
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 2: All right?

614
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:25,719
Speaker 5: I actually don't know that. I heard kind of a grinding.

615
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 5: It sounded almost like a bearing in a poolie or

616
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 5: something going bad. And then and then the car just

617
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 5: shut off basically. And then when I tried to crank it,

618
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 5: you know, it sounds like it. It sounds like a starter.

619
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 5: I bet you.

620
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: I bet you the water pump failed. I bet you

621
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: the water pump failed, and that took out the timing belt.

622
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: So second question, real quick.

623
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 5: Oh real quick, ninety four road Master. I let the

624
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 5: rear wheel cylinder bleed overnight by accident. I let it

625
00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 5: so all the fluid the Master cylinder basically went really low,

626
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 5: if not completely dry. So my question is do should

627
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 5: I should I now have to then bleed the Master cylinder.

628
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: You can do it in the car.

629
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 5: You can do it.

630
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: You can do it in the car. So you know,

631
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: lay a bunch of shop rags under the Master so

632
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: you don't put break fluid all over the place because

633
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: it's going to get sloppy and you just you know,

634
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: fill the master all right, unless you have a syringe.

635
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: You know, you always hear me talking about the syringe

636
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: break bleeders, which your local Laudo zone will have. It's

637
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: just a break bleeder device. It's like a hypodermic. You

638
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: fill it with break fluid and you can inject break

639
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: fluid up the Master. You'll see the bubbles get pushed

640
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: out and you'll see fluid. They work well. You could

641
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: actually backfill the system like anything else, from one of

642
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: the bleeder ports and then forward bleed it. But if

643
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: you don't have one of those and you don't want

644
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: to do that, you can just you know, have somebody

645
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: fill the master obviously, and have somebody slowly stroke the

646
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: pedal and bleed the Master like you would anything else

647
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: on the car. You'll get the fluid out when you

648
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: get a steady stream of fluid at the master cylinder itself,

649
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: then work your way down the line. If the car

650
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: has ABS, you may need to go find a tech

651
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: one and do an ABS bleed, but I don't remember that.

652
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: On the early nineties cars, it wasn't that big a deal.

653
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: You know the system would have to be bone dry.

654
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: I don't recall running into it all that often, you know.

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00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: I do know there's a procedure for it, and a

656
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: tech one which you're obsolete now, so we'd have to

657
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: figure out something else around it. That's why I talk

658
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: about that reverse bleeder pushing fluid, pushing air out that way,

659
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: and you should be fine, all right, Bleed it like

660
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: you would anything else. It sounds like you've been working

661
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: on cars a while, so just bleed it like you

662
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: would anything else. And then if you have an issue,

663
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: call me back and we'll get creative. There's always a

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00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: way around.

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00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 5: It, all right, Kittle, Thanks, Ron, appreciate it.

666
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: You're very welcome. Keep the faith, brother, You'll be fine.

667
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: I'm ronning any in the Car doctor. We'll be back

668
00:32:46,720 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: right after this. Don't go away, Welcome back running in

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00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. You know I started this hour talking

670
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: about do you talk to your kids and you know,

671
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: talking about mechanics and their cars and stuff. And in

672
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: that conversation too, I think is the conversation I had

673
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: with a salesman from one of my supply houses this

674
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: week when he's telling me, you know, it's funny they

675
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: walk in and they're like, Wow, I really enjoy being here.

676
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: You know, it's a clean shop, it's organized, it's this,

677
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: it's that he said, you can't imagine the shops I

678
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: have to go stand in and you know the number

679
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: of returns we get because you know, they're not diagnosing anything.

680
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: They're just trying a part and seeing if that works.

681
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: And it just kind of blows my mind. I just

682
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: I just don't understand that. I don't get how you

683
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: just swap apart in so and I guess my point

684
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: is everybody's looking for a good mechanic, including the mechanics, right,

685
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: you know, including the guys that are in this business.

686
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: Everybody's looking for either a way out or an answer

687
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: or a way up. And you know that's part of

688
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: the human equation. That's part of the struggle. And it's

689
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: funny too, you know, because we I think I have

690
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: what I like to call the car doctor's sighting. This morning,

691
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: I went to get a bagel at the Air and

692
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: I'll do it like this because I told her I would.

693
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: I said, I'll to the everything, to the lady at

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00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,479
Speaker 1: the Everything bagel shop, to the woman that worked behind

695
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: the counter at the Everything bagel shop and Paramise, New

696
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: Jersey this morning when I was ordering my bagel and coffee,

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00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: and you know, I was talking to the owner and

698
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: he's telling me about how slow business is, and I said, yeah,

699
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: I said, everything's kind of quiet right now. You know,

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00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: I'm in mechanics. I'm an auto mechanic. And I said,

701
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: you know, you could see the middle of October got

702
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: a little soft. Things kind of slowed down, and you know,

703
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: the guy says, oh, what are you doing. I said, well,

704
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 1: I'm a mechanic, and I guess I don't know, maybe

705
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: maybe from the sound of my voice. But the lady

706
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: that was cutting the bagel and slicing the bagel kind

707
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: of picked her head up and peecked around the corner,

708
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: and I kind of got the look. It's hard to

709
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: explain what the look is, but the look is either

710
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: she was looking for a mechanic or she recognized the

711
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: voice and she knew who it was. So for whoever

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00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: you were that you cut my bagel. Nice bagels and locks. Thanks,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. I'm on an any in the car

714
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: doctoruntil the next time. Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.

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Speaker 2: See you