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Speaker 1: let's get to our recap of the weekend. Something we

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Speaker 1: call love and hate?

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Speaker 2: What did you love?

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Speaker 1: God? I love you?

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Speaker 2: And what did you hate?

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Speaker 3: Need these player, hay is.

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Speaker 1: Love love, love, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate strong words.

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Speaker 1: We got a strong show. Let's go to our good

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Speaker 1: friend Jason Stewart. What'd you love from the weekend?

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Speaker 4: Jace two, I'd love to go west. That's what I

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Speaker 4: would have loved to do.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So let's go to Isaac lowankhn I love what'd

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Speaker 1: you love for the weekend?

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Speaker 5: So the Friday counts fourth July?

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Speaker 1: Right? Sure?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 5: It was really actually cool memory. I mentioned this on

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Speaker 5: Jonas's show and he's got me wanted by the cops now.

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Speaker 5: But like a block away from our house, there's this

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Speaker 5: long road and people from outside the neighborhood they set

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Speaker 5: up shop on this long road and they set off

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Speaker 5: fireworks all all night long on the fourth of July.

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Speaker 5: So me and my kids it was like a fireworks parade.

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Speaker 5: We walked up and down and got to see like

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Speaker 5: pro level fireworks. My eight year old was shouting fire

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Speaker 5: in the hall and I have no idea where you

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Speaker 4: Was kind of a nice memory.

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Speaker 5: So there we go.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and buy your gods.

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Speaker 5: Free pizza on Friday, by the way too.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's go to Big Ryan Smith. Ryan, what do

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Speaker 1: you got Well?

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Speaker 6: I do love the fourth of July. I love the fireworks,

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Speaker 6: but I hate it when I'm trying to sleep and

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Speaker 6: the fireworks are going off. I love the fact that

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Speaker 6: that didn't happen. There weren't a lot of fireworks going off,

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Speaker 6: so I got peaceful sleep. And that's what I loved

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Speaker 1: Peaceful sleep. Very very nice that you love for the weekend.

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Speaker 5: By the way, the three of us all live in

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Speaker 5: you know, southern California. Here, guys, when you woke up

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Speaker 5: on Saturday morning, like where I lived, it was all

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Speaker 5: like that for you on Saturday morning.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely out in the burbs it was. And the fireworks

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Speaker 4: were going off the entire weekend. It was a three

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Speaker 1: I kind of a diabolical what I liked.

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Speaker 3: Did you see the video.

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Speaker 1: There's some rapper I've never heard of it, blow off

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Speaker 5: No, I hadn't heard about this was that this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's JPP. That's what I got to four Extra

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Speaker 1: You guys ever heard of four Extra boy?

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Speaker 5: That's a very ironic name. But okay, no, I don't

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Speaker 5: google him.

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Speaker 4: Man boy.

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Speaker 1: Well four Extra some rapper and he was holding two

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Speaker 1: M E. D's in his hand and he's walking around

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Speaker 1: saying I'm gonna blow and he dropped an N bomb

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Speaker 1: up right. Then there's a video of him blowing off

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Speaker 1: four of his fingers. Oh man, I have not seen

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Speaker 1: said video, but I'm gonna watch it because that's who

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Speaker 1: This one with this dude four Extra like blowing off

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Speaker 1: hey dude, sorry, but you did know you were holding

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Speaker 1: happens when you f around and find out you taste too.

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Speaker 1: Like am I supposed to feel too much sympathy when

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Speaker 1: dudes threatened to blow other people up and then they

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Speaker 1: blow their own hand off. I do not. Sorry.

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Speaker 5: Even Lamar Jackson weighed in with his sympathies, posting, damn

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Speaker 5: for extra y'all be said with them fireworks. Then someone

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Speaker 5: best running back we have, and Lamar replied, when I

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Speaker 5: started hearing about people's hands and faces being blowed off,

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Speaker 5: I stopped that bra So even Lamar Jackson advocating for

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Speaker 1: Yeah, love his on hand. Again, It's not because I

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Speaker 1: don't feel sympathy for somebody blowing out their own hand.

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Speaker 1: It's the I'm walking around with twom Med. He's talking

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Speaker 1: about blowing up other people and then I bluffed bone

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Speaker 1: Han Jase too. What's you left on the weekend?

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Speaker 4: Oh man?

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Speaker 1: What not?

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Speaker 4: To of the Astros came to town and I'll tell

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Speaker 4: you what on Friday night did or herscheizer cause a

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Speaker 4: stir so. For those that don't know the history, the

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Speaker 4: Astros cheated their way to a World Serious championship in

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Speaker 4: twenty seventeen, and the commissioner didn't hold any players accountable,

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Speaker 4: no punishment, and when asked why you didn't vacate the

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Speaker 4: World Series championship from the Astros, the commissioner said, some

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Speaker 4: mishmouth thing about slippery slopes. I don't know what is

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Speaker 4: worse than being caught cheating during a World Series in

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Speaker 4: which you won a championship in I don't know where

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Speaker 4: the slippery slope exists. But anyways, Dodger fans never forget

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Speaker 4: what happened, and they never forgot that the Astros never

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Speaker 4: received any punishment. So on Friday Night or a Hersheiser,

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Speaker 4: much to his credit, God bless him, Bulldog on Friday Night,

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Speaker 4: I think it was Joe Davis. He said this on

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Speaker 7: It hard the deep center field pot has on the

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Speaker 7: round A turn of watch this one wedge itself in

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Speaker 7: the bottom of the round and Cam Smith flying into

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Speaker 7: second anchoring there with another extra base it for the

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Speaker 7: Astros double homer, double Philip and third against Casparios. I

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Speaker 4: So orl with a great line and that went viral.

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Speaker 4: And Astros Twitter really hated it. I retweeted hashtag never

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Speaker 4: forget hashtag Houston Asterisks and got a crapload from the

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Speaker 4: Houston Astros of when are you guys going to get

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Speaker 4: over this? It's been eight years? How about this? If

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Speaker 4: you guys were properly punished, we would probably be over

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Speaker 4: it by now. So I blame Manfred and I blame

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Speaker 4: Astros for having the lack of character to cheat.

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Speaker 1: There you go, there you go.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's what we love.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to it. We hated over the weekend. Our

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Speaker 1: resident hater is nonther than Jason Stewart goes last in

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Speaker 1: love because he loves the least. First, I hate because

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Speaker 1: he hates the most. Chase two.

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Speaker 4: You hate to see the Astros sweep the Dodgers, ever,

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Speaker 4: but you definitely hated to see the Astros sweep the

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Speaker 4: Dodgers this past weekend at Dodger Stadium. And then I

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Speaker 4: will had a really good seat to see the final

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Speaker 4: game of that sweep, one in which the what one

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Speaker 4: holdover from the twenty seventeen squad, Jose al Tuv I

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Speaker 4: went to boo him and heckle him personally, and he

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Speaker 4: launched a home run in the ninth inning. I think

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Speaker 4: was a direct response to my heckling. He was asked

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Speaker 4: after the game about this heckling from yours truly.

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Speaker 6: Is that what twenty seven stances for the number of

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Speaker 6: pitches you saw coming to the twenty seventeen postseason?

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Speaker 1: Huh?

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Speaker 3: Is that what twenty seventh stance for?

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Speaker 1: Answer me?

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Speaker 4: He never answered me, but he did hit a home

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Speaker 4: run in the ninth inning. The astro swept. When he

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Speaker 4: was asked afterwards, he said it rattled him for a

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Speaker 4: little bit, but he gained his composure for his last

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Speaker 1: That was terrible trash talk, too wordy, and nobody's catching

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Speaker 1: all those words.

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Speaker 4: Is it because he's English second language or do you

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Speaker 4: just think he was too wordy? Anyways?

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Speaker 1: I just thought it was too wordy. That was short

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Speaker 1: pointed to the point, like like again, I know the

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Speaker 1: the wrong du but like your mom is better than

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Speaker 1: is twenty seven the number of times you knew a

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Speaker 1: ball was coming to you back in the previous playoffs,

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Speaker 1: not last year, or the year before or the year

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Speaker 1: before that, but back several years ago.

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Speaker 3: Is that the number dumb.

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Speaker 5: Should we send Jason to Robin Thicker for some for

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Speaker 5: a consultation on proper heckling technique?

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Speaker 1: Is that the old heckler from the Washington.

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Speaker 5: Capitals Washington Wizards when they were the Bullets.

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Speaker 1: But yes, sir, yeah, Washington Bullets. That's right. He used

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Speaker 1: to like read things to Michael Jordan. It was he

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Speaker 5: Yeah when the Jordan the rules came out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what did I hate from the weekend? Uh, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm I hate the fact that people and listen, I

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Speaker 1: know what's going to happen tonight. Okay. I live on

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Speaker 1: a lake, so it's really cool on Fourth July. You

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Speaker 1: look around the lake and there's just everywhere you can

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Speaker 1: go fireworks. But like, we've hit the point where it's over.

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Speaker 1: It was a little bit over last night. Now it's

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Speaker 1: really over. And I understand. You may not have a dog,

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Speaker 1: I have three. Actually, one is definitely afraid of fireworks,

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Speaker 1: really uncomfortable. So for Fourth July, we put them in

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Speaker 1: the room. We can surround them with blankets. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's all his favorite things. Try and get them away

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Speaker 1: from the noise so he doesn't know what's happening all

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Speaker 1: that stuff. But once you get past like, hey, we're

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Speaker 1: a three day weekend, it's over. Stop blowing up the

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Speaker 1: damn fireworks. Okay, stop stop, it's over for the julye

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Speaker 1: is over. Move on, I love What do you got.

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Speaker 5: Both sides of the coin? By the way, what are

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Speaker 5: the names of your dogs?

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Speaker 4: I'm curious.

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Speaker 1: We have Odell Beckham Junior Junior, we have Luca dog Chis,

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Speaker 1: and we have Vince Lombardi. Well to well, first five, well,

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Speaker 1: he goes by Odi or Odell, Okay, then uh, Luca

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Speaker 1: goes by Chomps them chomps, and then uh, Vincent Lombardi

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Speaker 1: goes by Barty Barty Odie Chumps.

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Speaker 4: If you're keeping score at home, within two minutes on

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Speaker 4: this broadcast, Doug has insulted me for being too wordy

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Speaker 4: and maybe too nuances.

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Speaker 1: It's Doug Gottlieb Show. It's Fox Sports Radio. So Clippers

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Speaker 1: But the point at the end was the smart point.

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Speaker 1: And this is the point I've always believed. Dan Gilbert,

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Speaker 1: bad guy, bad leader, ran bad franchise. They played in

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Speaker 1: a place that is not very old, but it's gonna

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Speaker 1: get knocked down as a dump. But because how he

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Speaker 1: treated people, treated fans, Dan seider I said, Dan geber

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Speaker 1: I apologized to the Gilbert family. Dan Snyder, bad guy,

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Speaker 1: bad team, bad organization, creepy stuff, right, and uh, but

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Speaker 1: this goes along the lines of Jim Dolan. Dolan in

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Speaker 1: the Knicks, right, everybody hated Dolan in the Knicks, everybody

446
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Speaker 1: hated them, you know, remember Charles, Look, I'm never coming

447
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Speaker 1: back there. Ever, they're all there this year. Why because

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Speaker 1: they're winning. Regardless of whether or not there's new ownership,

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Speaker 1: role ownership the Commanders now and even the nickname, they're winning.

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Speaker 1: They got a trem this young quarterback, they got a

451
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Speaker 1: good coach, like it's fun. So, yeah, did did ownership

452
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Speaker 1: change the narrative and the feeling? But nothing changes something

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Speaker 1: like winning. But the idea of changing the nickname back

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Speaker 1: is such a pipe dream. Yeah, they had a lot

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Speaker 1: of equity within the name, and Dan Snyder said that

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Speaker 1: for a long time, like we had equity in this name,

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Speaker 1: whether you like it or don't like it, got equity

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Speaker 1: in that name. And now that equity's gone. Now, let's

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Speaker 1: say I don't commanders honestly, Guardians are the same way,

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Speaker 1: they just are. I mean, you could make a much

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Speaker 1: stronger argument about the Cleveland Indian nickname than you could

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Speaker 1: about the Washington Red excuse me, Cleveland Indian mascot, more

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Speaker 1: so than the redskin mascot, because the redskin mascot was

464
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Speaker 1: looked like a Native American warrior, right.

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Speaker 4: But we have a conversation about the word woke real fast.

466
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Speaker 4: And I know it's kind of piss off a few

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Speaker 4: of you people listening right now, But the whole wokeism,

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Speaker 4: you know, that word that the right co opted, The

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Speaker 4: word that was had great intentions to begin with, and

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Speaker 4: the right has changed the meaning of the word and

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Speaker 4: now it's used against the left. I got out of that.

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Speaker 4: But part of the I guess one of the reasons

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Speaker 4: Trump got elected, if you look at the polling, is

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Speaker 4: that he did stand for this anti wokeism. Whatever wocism

475
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Speaker 4: means to you, Wocism I think means to a lot

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Speaker 4: of people, white people feeling guilty for things that should

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Speaker 4: offend other cultures, other races. And removing the name Indians,

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Speaker 4: removing the name Redskins, I think was seen as a

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Speaker 4: product of this wocism. The actual people aren't offended, but

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Speaker 4: white people in charge are going to have to change

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Speaker 4: out of this kind of white guilt that is grounded

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Speaker 4: in wocism. Is that is that your assessment of this

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Speaker 4: as well?

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Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, yeah. When people try to establish what's offensive

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Speaker 1: to somebody else, they have no idea their their culture,

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Speaker 1: or whatever, like yeah, you know, I you know, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I also think we can't look at yesterday

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Speaker 1: through the lens of today. That's a big one. Can't

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Speaker 1: look at yesterday through the lens of today. I now,

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Speaker 1: while I agree with him on Redskins, I disagree with

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Speaker 1: him on you know, Robbie Lee and Fort Bragg and like,

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Speaker 1: what are we doing? What? What are we? What are

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Speaker 1: we doing? I think that that woke Originally, this is

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Speaker 1: like a lot of things. Originally it was the idea

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Speaker 1: of being aware of things that have subtle vibes of

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Speaker 1: race that we've allowed to go on for years. But

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Speaker 1: then suddenly everything became racist, literally everything, and woke became

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Speaker 1: really paranoid. That that's because I would Ryan Music and

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Speaker 1: I have had this discussion a lot. Ryan is now

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Speaker 1: the producer of Cowhard. He used to be where Jay

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Speaker 1: Suo sits now, and both of us would have the

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Speaker 1: same conversation like we grew up fairly liberal, household right,

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Speaker 1: and now we're made to feel by the far left

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Speaker 1: like we're you know, we're on the far right, which

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Speaker 1: we are not. I truly, I want to believe that

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Speaker 1: all of this stuff is merely a product of media

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Speaker 1: and social media pushing pushing us further and further away

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Speaker 1: from each other because it sells right far left versus

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Speaker 1: far right is anger and fighting. But I would also

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Speaker 1: tell you that like Trump said, I think it was

511
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Speaker 1: like Saturday that he hates Democrats, like what are you

512
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Speaker 1: doing like to your fellow man, by the way, you

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Speaker 1: represent all of them so and honestly, I think that

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Speaker 1: it's it's been used. This is the point Jason I

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Speaker 1: made on the podcast last week. Where conservatives or Republicans

516
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Speaker 1: win is they can take anything and exploit it and

517
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Speaker 1: make it far worse than it possibly is, and they

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Speaker 1: can take any little victory and celebrate it, whereas democrats

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Speaker 1: to the left, they apologize for any victory and they're

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Speaker 1: so afraid of being offensive that they end up offending

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Speaker 1: a lot more people because they're too accepting of things

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Speaker 1: that are really really fringe. That's my thoughts. So ends

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Speaker 1: my ted talk as a radical centrist. This is the

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Speaker 1: A heartbreaking episode at Wimbledon.

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Speaker 1: It's Doug Gottlieb Show. It's Fox Sports Radio. So Clippers

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Speaker 1: apparently pull off a three. So's the seventeen deal now?

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Speaker 1: And this is the weird thing about the the Kevin Rant.

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Speaker 1: Things like the trade, well, we thought it was done,

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Speaker 1: but it's not done until it actually kind of goes

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Speaker 1: the commissioner's office. They end up like everybody want to

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Speaker 1: move bad contracts and whatever. So the Clippers assumde the

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Speaker 1: the Rockets excuse me. The Rockets end up being part

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Speaker 1: of the first ever seventeam trade. Like I don't even

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Speaker 1: know how you like, do you do that on a zoom?

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Speaker 1: That means everybody has to have an iPhone too, Jay

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Speaker 1: stew That's what it means. Don't do the Google thing,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Android thing. I'm so much cooler than you.

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Speaker 1: I gotta I have a phone which probably functionality is

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Speaker 1: way better, but nobody else has that. Don't start with

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Speaker 1: the percentages of worldwide how many people have iPhones as

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Speaker 1: opposed to androids in the business and sports. You're like

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Speaker 1: on a ten percent of business and sports have have

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Speaker 1: the droid. Anyway, Norman Powell goes to Miami, the Clippers

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Speaker 1: get John Collins, who's shop blocker, rebounder, dunker, big guy, right,

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Speaker 1: And uh yeah, that's that's the biggest parts of that trade,

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Speaker 1: of the Clippers making that trade.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Tyrese Haliburton confirms he's gonna miss all of next season,

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Speaker 1: not a surprise. And then I mentioned the Clippers seventeen trade.

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Speaker 1: It excuna be the Sun's seventeen trade off the top

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Speaker 1: of your head. I loo, how many names of players

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Speaker 1: in that seventeen trade can you actually get?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 5: Can I phone a friend or do fifth?

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Speaker 4: No chance? No chance?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the Warriors got Jami Mashak Mayshak. I don't,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know what that is. I don't

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Speaker 1: know who that is. Uh, there's there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: different ones just moving around contracts to make it all

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Speaker 1: make sense so that everybody ends up happy. I guess.

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Speaker 1: I guess. Clippers though, like they they've they've got this

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Speaker 1: place to where they're like, they're they're good, they're whatever.

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Speaker 1: They're just kind of hanging around being sort of a

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Speaker 1: playoff team, and yeah, just sort of above just above mediocre,

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Speaker 1: above mediocre. What a what a weird offseason? It's really strange, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think the Rockets got better, but you trade out

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Speaker 1: of Jalen Green, who I'm not a huge fan of

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Speaker 1: but very young for an aging Kevin Urran who's still

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Speaker 1: really good but not the same guy he used to be.

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Speaker 1: Is that enough? I don't know. I don't know. The

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Speaker 1: team most who won in one of the most games

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Speaker 1: the regular season seems to be the one that's gonna

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Speaker 1: be the same. And the East has never truly been

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Speaker 1: as strong as the West, although was pretty strong this year.

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Speaker 1: And now you got the Celtics, the Bucks, the Pacers

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Speaker 1: looking like, Hey, we're gonna press pause and go for it.

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Speaker 1: The following year, weird offseason with Isaac Loewen Crime before

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Speaker 1: we talk about a little NFL nickname story. What do

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Speaker 1: you got out though, Doug?

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Speaker 5: We got drama and then heartbreak. Today, in round four

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Speaker 5: at Wimbledon, nineteen seed Grigor Dimitrov of Bulgaria went up

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Speaker 5: two sets to none over one seed Yonick Center, but

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Speaker 5: then in the third set, Dimitrov sustained an apparent right

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Speaker 5: pectoral injury. Here's how it sounded on Radio Wimbledon.

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Speaker 1: How can he swing that army? It really seems very

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Speaker 1: unlikely that you will.

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Speaker 3: I know he's having to retire.

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Speaker 9: He's come back on the courts water Shane, that is,

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Speaker 9: he's played so well. He's actually in tears coming back.

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Speaker 9: But your heart goes out to Grigor Temitrov. He was

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Speaker 9: leading by two sets to love too all in the

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Speaker 9: third set. He's getting a heroic ovation, so much sympathy

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Speaker 9: for him, but yet again his body lets him down

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Speaker 9: in a ground slam. That's the fifth one in a

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Speaker 9: row that he's had to retire.

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Speaker 4: Hurt. You heard that right.

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Speaker 5: It was the fifth straight Grand Slam that Dimitrov had

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Speaker 5: to retire from due to injury earlier. American Ben Shelton

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Speaker 5: advance to the quarterfinals with a four set win over

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Speaker 5: Italy's Lorenzo Sonago Novak Djokovic won his fourth round match

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Speaker 5: over Australia's Alex Demnor. In Major League Baseball, the Washington

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Speaker 5: Nationals announced today that bench coach Miguel Cairo will take

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Speaker 5: over as interim manager. Yesterday, the Nationals fired manager Dave

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Speaker 5: Martinez as well as general manager Mike Rizzo. Dug back to.

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Speaker 1: You, Mike Rizzo. Mike Rizzo, Sorry, that's jerky Boys. Do

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Speaker 1: any of you guys remember Turkey?

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Speaker 4: You bring in a tank, I'll sell the frickin thing.

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Speaker 5: You know who is a big fan of the jerky Boys.

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Speaker 5: I'm not making this up. Bill Belichick, by the way,

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Speaker 5: true story.

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Speaker 1: Really yeah.

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Speaker 4: That tells me he's got great taste. I spent hours

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Speaker 4: and hours in the nineties memorizing jerky Boys.

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Speaker 1: Oh my, who didn't my shoes and my glasses? So

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Speaker 1: I have them? Can I bring my shoes? And for

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Speaker 1: people who don't know what the Jerky Boys are, back

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Speaker 1: when we had cassette tapes, you're like, what is a

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Speaker 1: cassette tape google it. Uh. Anyway, these began circulating and

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Speaker 1: it was what's the there's a a prank show, which

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Speaker 1: I think has gone away that was on True TV.

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Speaker 1: Was that called whether they pulled pranks and they had

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Speaker 1: like an ear piece into their friends and they go

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Speaker 1: into a grocery store and have to say bizarre things

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Speaker 1: to people. Anyway, it was basically it was a it

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Speaker 1: was a pranker. It was for pranks. You know, you

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Speaker 1: call the local pizza place and he said, my wife's sick,

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Speaker 1: my daughter is sick, and you want to give me

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Speaker 1: a free pizza.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna come down there and whoop your ass.

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Speaker 5: You're talking about impractical jokers.

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Speaker 1: Impractical jokers.

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Speaker 4: Yes, different jokers, different deal.

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Speaker 5: So you're the only person a different deal who watches

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Speaker 5: True TV for non NCAA tournament reasons.

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Speaker 1: I see, Well that's what happens when you watch during

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Speaker 1: not during the NCAA tournament and practical jokers. What's that?

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Speaker 1: Actually hung out with those guys one year at the

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Speaker 1: Final four and they were not interesting guys, really one

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Speaker 1: of those like, man, these guys must be fun awesome,

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Speaker 1: like not really kind of arrogant, not that cool. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just a just just keeping it real, bro, just keep

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Speaker 1: it real. Okay, did you guys see Well, there's lots

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Speaker 1: of things that our president has said. Uh, but our

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Speaker 1: president said something interesting about the the nickname change to

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Speaker 1: now the Commanders. Right, remember the Washington Commanders were they

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Speaker 1: were the Redskins, they were the football team, and now

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Speaker 1: they're the Commanders. Here's potus was asked yesterday about the

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Speaker 1: Commanders on the tarmac. I see the.

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Speaker 6: Commanders change the name back to Redskins.

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Speaker 8: Well, you want going to make a controversial statement. I

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Speaker 8: would I wouldn't have changed in it, but that Sarah

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Speaker 8: just doesn't have the same It doesn't have the same.

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Speaker 4: Ring to me.

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Speaker 8: But you know, winning can make everything sound good.

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Speaker 2: So if they win, all of.

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Speaker 8: A sudden, the commander sounds good. But I wouldn't have

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Speaker 8: changed in it.

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Speaker 1: Okay. I actually think in a world in which everybody

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Speaker 1: this is his strength, right, this is his strength when

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Speaker 1: he just from the off the cuff what he thinks,

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Speaker 1: no political thinking behind it. Because his point is, and

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Speaker 1: this has always been my point, okay, And we'll get

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Speaker 1: to the the aspect of whether or not it is

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Speaker 1: an offense, was an offensive nick name? His point is like,

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Speaker 1: there's value in a name. There's branding and a name,

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Speaker 1: specifically the Washington Redskins. A matter of fact, I would

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Speaker 1: tell you that there are Native American people that I

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Speaker 1: met that I feel like there's they have no value

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Speaker 1: in the name, and there was no win in changing

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Speaker 1: nick name. Again, I'm not Native American. I can't speak

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Speaker 1: to it. I can only tell you that people who

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Speaker 1: are like, well, that's an defensive name, like not really,

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Speaker 1: no one calls a Native American or redskin like. They're

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Speaker 1: just like, it's not part of popular speech. There are

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Speaker 1: offensive words, but it's not, especially if it honors the

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Speaker 1: traditions of Native American warriors in the past. That's my

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Speaker 1: personal feeling. And they've done studies and obviously they vary

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Speaker 1: in terms of results, but some have said that those

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Speaker 1: studies show that Native Americans took great pride in it.

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Speaker 1: But the point is that he just said what he thought,

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Speaker 1: and I didn't like that. You wanted something controversial, like, well,

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Speaker 1: why don't you say what you think regardless of whether

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Speaker 1: it's controversial. But the point at the end was the

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Speaker 1: smart point, And this is the point I've always believed

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Speaker 1: Dan Gilbert, bad guy, bad leader, ran bad franchise. They

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Speaker 1: played in a place that is not very old, but

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Speaker 1: it's gonna get knocked down as a dump. But because

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Speaker 1: how he treated people, treated fans, Dad sid I said,

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Speaker 1: dankebber I apologize to the Gilbert family. Dan Snyder bad guy,

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Speaker 1: bad team, bad organization, creepy stuff, right and uh, but

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Speaker 1: this goes along the lines of Jim Dolan. Dolan in

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Speaker 1: the Knicks. Everybody hated Dolan in the Knicks. Everybody hated them.

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Speaker 1: You know, remember Charles, Look, I'm never coming back there. Ever,

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Speaker 1: they're all there this year. Why because they're winning. Regardless

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Speaker 1: of whether or not there's new ownership, role ownership, the

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Speaker 1: commanders now and even the nickname, they're winning. They got

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Speaker 1: a tremendous young quarterback, they got a good coach, Like

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Speaker 1: it's fun. So, yeah, did did ownership change the narrative

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Speaker 1: and the feeling? But nothing changes something like winning. But

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Speaker 1: they're the The idea of changing the nickname back is

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Speaker 1: such a pipe dream. Yeah, they had a lot of

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Speaker 1: equity within the name, and Dan Snyder said that for

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Speaker 1: a long time, like, we got equity in this name,

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Speaker 1: whether you like it or don't like it, got equity

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Speaker 1: in that name, and now that equity's going. Now, let's

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Speaker 1: say I don't commanders, honestly, guardians are the same way,

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Speaker 1: they just are. I mean, you could make a much

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Speaker 1: stronger argument about the Cleveland Indian nickname than you could

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Speaker 1: about the Washington red excuse me, Cleveland Indian mascot, more

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Speaker 1: so than the redskin mascot, because the redskin mascot was

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Speaker 1: looked like a Native American warrior. Right.

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Speaker 4: But we have a conversation about the word woke real fast,

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Speaker 4: and I know it's just kind of piss off a

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Speaker 4: few of you people listening right now, but the the

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Speaker 4: whole woke ism, you know, that word that the right

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Speaker 4: co opted, The word that was had great intentions to

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Speaker 4: begin with, and the right has changed the meaning of

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Speaker 4: the word and now it's chused against the left. I

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Speaker 4: got out of that. But part of the I guess

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Speaker 4: one of the reasons Trump got elected, if you look

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Speaker 4: at the polling, is that he did stand for this

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Speaker 4: anti wocism. Whatever wocism means to you, Wocism I think

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Speaker 4: means to a lot of people, white people feeling guilty

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Speaker 4: for things that should offend other cultures, other races, and

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Speaker 4: removing the name Indians removing the name Redskins I think

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Speaker 4: was seen as a product of this wocism. The actual

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Speaker 4: people aren't offended, but white people in charge are going

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Speaker 4: to have to change out of this kind of white

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Speaker 4: guilt that is grounded in wocism. Is that is that

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Speaker 4: your assessment of this as well?

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Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, yeah, when people try to establish what's offensive

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Speaker 1: to somebody else, they have no idea their culture or whatever,

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Speaker 1: like yeah, you know, you know, I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: also think we can't look at yesterday through the lens

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Speaker 1: of today. That's a big one. Can't look at yesterday

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Speaker 1: through the lens of today. I now, while I agree

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Speaker 1: with him on Redskins, I disagree with him on you know,

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Speaker 1: Robbie Lee and Fort Bragg and like what are we doing?

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Speaker 1: What are we? What are we doing? I think that

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Speaker 1: that woke Originally, this is like a lot of things.

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Speaker 1: Originally it was the idea of being aware of things

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Speaker 1: that have subtle vibes of racism that we've allowed to

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Speaker 1: go on for years. But then suddenly everything became racist,

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Speaker 1: literally everything, and woke became really paranoid. That that's because

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Speaker 1: I would Ryan Music and I have had this discussion

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Speaker 1: a lot Ryan is now the producer of Cowhard. He

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Speaker 1: used to be where Jay su sits now, and both

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Speaker 1: of us would have the same conversation like we're up

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Speaker 1: fairly liberal household right, and now we're made to feel

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Speaker 1: by the far left like we're you know, we're on

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Speaker 1: the far right, which we are not. I truly, I

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Speaker 1: want to believe that all of this stuff is merely

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Speaker 1: a product of media and social media pushing pushing us

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Speaker 1: further and further away from each other because it sells right.

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Speaker 1: Far left versus far right is anger and fighting. But

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Speaker 1: I would also tell you that like Trump said, I

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Speaker 1: think it was like Saturday that he hates Democrats, Like

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Speaker 1: what are you doing? Like your fellow man, you by

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Speaker 1: the way, you represent all of them so and honestly,

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Speaker 1: I think that it's it's been used. This is this

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Speaker 1: is the point Jason I made on the podcast last week.

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Speaker 1: Where conservatives or Republicans win is they can take anything

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Speaker 1: and exploit it and make it far worse than it

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Speaker 1: possibly is, and they can take any little victory and

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Speaker 1: celebrate it, whereas democrats to the left, they apologize for

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Speaker 1: any victory and they're so afraid of being offensive that

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Speaker 1: they end up offending a lot more people because they're

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Speaker 1: too accepting of things that are really, really fringe. That's

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Speaker 1: my thoughts, So ends my ted talk as a radical centrist.

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