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Speaker 2: Good Morning Football.

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Speaker 3: What's happening everybody? This is Good Morning Football. We are

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Speaker 3: live here in New York City. It's Wednesday, March sixth.

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Speaker 3: I'm Jamie her at All. There's your usual cast characters

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Speaker 3: on the front side of the table. Kyle Brent, Peter Schraker,

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Speaker 3: Jas Mccordy's at NFLPA meetings. We borrowed Patriots linebacker Matthew Judhn.

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Speaker 4: Let's go back, let's go. He's back. Hi, feeling I'm

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Speaker 4: feeling great? Yeah, feeling great?

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Yes, what'd you tell me in the makeup room? I said,

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Speaker 3: how's your body feeling?

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Speaker 4: Haven't played football since Week four?

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Speaker 3: So I'm home chomping at the bit.

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Speaker 5: Well, our mission with you here with us this week

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Speaker 5: is we're going to try to get every free agent

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Speaker 5: to sign with the Patriots based on how compelling you are.

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying, right, I still come to the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: I've seen you chirping the people on Twitter. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: help you.

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Speaker 4: See the problem is they all never hit me bad.

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Speaker 3: That's right. When they sign, then it feels like it's

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Speaker 3: a hug, then they give back.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep trying.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. All right, Well, we got some clarity on

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Speaker 3: free agency, which begins next week. Is the franchise window

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Speaker 3: officially closed yesterday at four pm. Here's our very own

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Speaker 3: NFL Network insider Ian Rappaport with what went down at

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Speaker 3: the deadline.

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Speaker 6: The franchise tag deadline came and went, and as is

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Speaker 6: the case basically every year, several of the top free

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Speaker 6: agents to be are now locked up on the franchise tag,

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Speaker 6: hoping for long term deals rather than play out on

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Speaker 6: the one year, fully guaranteed tender. Let's start with Michael Pittman,

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Speaker 6: the standout receiver for the Indianapolis Coaches, coming off a

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Speaker 6: career year. Two sides had several talks going into the deadline.

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Speaker 6: I thought at one point a deal might get done. Instead, No,

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Speaker 6: he gets the franchise tag.

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Speaker 2: They will keep working on it.

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Speaker 6: Similar with Josh Allen and the Jacksonville Jaguars, coming off

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Speaker 6: a career more than seventeen sacks, he also gets the

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Speaker 6: franchise tag, as does Brian Burns for the Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 6: They had contract talks right before last season, did not

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Speaker 6: get done. He ends up on the tag was see

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Speaker 6: what happens with his situation there and then vi the

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Speaker 6: Chicago Bears and Baltimore Ravens, two of their key players

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Speaker 6: they had learned long term talks with were not able

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Speaker 6: to get a deal done. Jalen Johnson, the Pro Bowl

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Speaker 6: corner run the best.

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Speaker 2: At his position.

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Speaker 6: He gets tagged Justin Mattabique for the Baltimore Ravens after

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Speaker 6: a career year for him. He also gets tagged me

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Speaker 6: while the Patriots transition tagged Kyle Duggar. That said, there

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Speaker 6: was as much news on Tuesday about who did not

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Speaker 6: get tagged, especially as it relates to the New York Giants.

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Speaker 6: Saquon Barkley officially was not franchise tagged.

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Speaker 3: He will be free.

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Speaker 6: Xavier McKinney, the standout safety some thought he would get

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Speaker 6: a transition tag. He also will be a free agent.

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Speaker 3: All right, Ian, thank you. Here's the list of the

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Speaker 3: big name players that got tagged. Some of course, occurred

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Speaker 3: yesterday before the deadline, and some have the exclusive and

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Speaker 3: non exclusives. A few we already knew about. Players will

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Speaker 3: have until mid July to work out a long term

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Speaker 3: deal with the team. That's tagged them. A lot of

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Speaker 3: action yesterday, not just tag related. Peter. The biggest takeaway

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Speaker 3: from franchise tag deadline Day.

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Speaker 7: A lot of big names, a lot of big names.

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Speaker 7: Some years there's only one or two players, some years

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Speaker 7: there's eight or nine. I'm looking down at Tampa and

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Speaker 7: to start the week, I said, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

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Speaker 2: Once.

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Speaker 7: You got Mike Evans, which they took care of. You've

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Speaker 7: got Baker Mayfield, which we'll talk about later in the show.

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Speaker 7: You've got two veterans and Levonte David and Devin White,

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Speaker 7: then they have who might be the best safety in

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Speaker 7: all of football, Antoine Winfield Junior. They tag Antoine Winfield.

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Speaker 7: And you look at what he did this year. He

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Speaker 2: I wanna ball out. Now I need to ball out.

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Speaker 2: He gave him an actual belt.

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Speaker 7: He gave him an actual belt they franchise tag him.

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Speaker 7: But what I'm told is that this is truly temporary.

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Speaker 7: We're trying to figure out a long term deal. And

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Speaker 7: this is the opinion part of it, not the fact

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Speaker 7: part of it. If I'm Tampa, let's look at the

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Speaker 7: highest paid safeties. Let's like a look at it here.

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Speaker 7: Instead of giving me the average, let's give him the

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Speaker 7: most money. There's the salary cap is different. The salary

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Speaker 7: cap has just boosted up fifteen twenty million dollars from

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Speaker 2: Give him twenty, give.

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Speaker 4: Him twenty one, give him twenty two.

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Speaker 7: To me, it's Antoine Winfield Junior is a fourth year guy.

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Speaker 2: You know, pityiment.

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Speaker 7: And this is one of those deals where I understand

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Speaker 7: there's only so much that we can give out, and

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Speaker 7: we have a giant pie and it's being sliced a

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Speaker 7: million ways. But if you're willing to give him seventeen

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Speaker 7: for a year, and you love him, and he's young,

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Speaker 7: and he's a great teammate, he's a captain, and all

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Speaker 7: this stuff comes so much short of given a little

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Speaker 7: best football'll come and has been nothing but a Super

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Speaker 2: What do you think you do?

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Speaker 8: I think we got nice quarterbacks that they didn't get tagged.

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Speaker 8: We got nice quarterbacks that's on the market that anybody

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Speaker 8: But about the people who got tagged. First of all,

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Speaker 4: But then I think I think sneak.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, he played a huge role in Kansas City defense

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Speaker 4: I think every game if you go back and watch.

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Speaker 8: He played well, turnovers, everything that you could act for

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Speaker 4: The Super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: Well, Chris Joans gets a lot of the headlines. I

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Speaker 5: we don't know Christians. Let's just take a step back

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Speaker 5: for saying you represented a player. What do you feel

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Speaker 5: you see a teammate Kyle Douger get tagged. What kind

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Speaker 5: of reaction does that get from you?

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Speaker 4: Well, actually, I played on the tag Baltimore. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: You got tagged. What's that like? When you find out you'

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Speaker 4: It's like they do they want me?

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Speaker 8: Or are they only holding me for untail until they

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Speaker 8: to find out middle ground or some way to get

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Speaker 8: then let's go put our best foot forward and bet

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Speaker 7: Did it work out for you when you got tagged?

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Speaker 8: I felt like yeah, but then I also didn't want

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Speaker 5: So we just said the whole list of guys who

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Speaker 8: I mean, it's it's something that just happens. You're like,

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Speaker 4: Now now you're just thinking that.

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Speaker 8: You okay, well we're still in limbo because you've been

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Speaker 8: you all been kind of contract talking back and forth

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Speaker 8: that you've been with. And but now you know, you're

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Speaker 8: with everybody else that's kind of in your class and stuff.

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Speaker 8: So you can't be mad at these numbers. Right you

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Speaker 8: it just makes you happy when you get a long

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Speaker 5: My son does this disgusting thing now he's taken the

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Speaker 5: doing where if they're eating pizza, like dinner or something

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Speaker 5: so that like his sister doesn't take it when he's gone.

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Speaker 3: How old is he again?

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Speaker 4: Ten ten?

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Speaker 5: That's like trying the tag on it, like I am

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Speaker 5: not going to eat you right now, but like no

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I claim this sort of you know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: Feels like the cheating way Calvin, great job, by the way,

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Speaker 5: my son. I like to look at the names of

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Speaker 5: the people didn't get tagged. Just I imaged this guy yesterday,

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Speaker 5: Christian Wilkins and the Dolphins did not get tagged. He

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Speaker 5: may be on another team, you know him of course

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Speaker 5: from the AFC. I just like what he represents. He

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Speaker 5: shows up with attitude, He shows up with it over

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Speaker 5: which I also like he's a villain in a sense.

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Speaker 2: Just ask Josh Allen.

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Speaker 5: He's done in a thousand times. If he changes teams.

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Speaker 5: If Mimy lets him go, they get in into your

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Speaker 5: d lineman. Who's gonna start stuff like that kind of

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Speaker 5: guy you like Wilkins. Uh yeah, especially to go to

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Speaker 5: a new team. I don't like playing them, I answer,

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Speaker 5: I answered way too fast. I don't like playing them.

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Speaker 5: But I did say that that's because that's what people

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Speaker 5: feel like they hate playing against the guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Let's let's keep talking about guys that didn't get the

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Speaker 7: And then Saquon was an awesome teammate this past year

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Speaker 8: You never hear anything bad about him in the media. Uh,

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Speaker 8: Like, I want to go somewhere where I'm wanting, and

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Speaker 5: I feel like it's time, And I also feel like,

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Speaker 2: How many years have I been here? How many times

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Speaker 5: Like I remember as a rookie, I'm like, that's a

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Speaker 5: I hate how it's going for Saquon, so I think

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Speaker 4: He's a Giant and that was twelve million done.

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Speaker 3: It'd be really fun to see him, in his personality,

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Speaker 2: Never be in the companies with Patriots.

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Speaker 5: With the Patriots, I mean, come to the come to

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Speaker 2: I promise the show with it.

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Speaker 3: Well, you can keep up with all those names and

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Speaker 3: when Free Agency Frenzy kicks off Monday, eleven am Eastern,

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Speaker 3: a lot of star power hitting the market next week,

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Speaker 3: Get your markers out whiteboard Wednesday, Kyle Undefeated segment.

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Speaker 9: Good morning Football, Carry up whiteboard Wednesday o'clock between this

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Speaker 9: year's draft class, a free agency abundance of talented quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: As Peter, why do you say it, like would he

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Speaker 4: Number or a Lamar number.

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Speaker 2: You don't have backs. This is not the way it works.

438
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Speaker 4: Oh, I don't think I ever got back number. I

439
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Speaker 4: don't think that was like ever.

440
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Speaker 3: Like it shocks me. I don't know why.

441
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Speaker 4: I just hit mack up on INSTAGRAMD He respond he

442
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Speaker 4: was fine, but uh.

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Speaker 7: Ms fifty three man textin yeah right, yeah the Patriots.

444
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Speaker 5: Here's my answer I did drawing Las Vegas. We have

445
00:19:09,948 --> 00:19:12,468
Speaker 5: a bold franchise, we have a bold head coach. We

446
00:19:12,628 --> 00:19:15,628
Speaker 5: do not have a bold quarterback. But speaking of bold,

447
00:19:16,068 --> 00:19:21,108
Speaker 5: we got a nice thirteen pick that can become three two,

448
00:19:21,348 --> 00:19:24,148
Speaker 5: A one, can become whatever you want if you've fall

449
00:19:24,148 --> 00:19:26,868
Speaker 5: in love with one of those quarterbacks. I love Aidan O'Connell.

450
00:19:26,868 --> 00:19:28,828
Speaker 5: I think he threw twelve touchdowns against the Chargers in

451
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Speaker 5: one game. Jimmy, I just don't think it's gonna be

452
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Speaker 5: the Jimmy thing. I got to see something from Las Vegas.

453
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Speaker 5: We got to see I don't know who they're starting

454
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Speaker 5: quarterback is week one. I don't think it's someone on

455
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Speaker 5: the team right now.

456
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Speaker 3: I'm still in very the Antonio Pierce experience. His presser

457
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Speaker 3: from the combine was like I'm still undefeated for the

458
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Speaker 3: next couple of months. He put it on the front office,

459
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Speaker 3: like you give me a guy, and I will hopefully

460
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Speaker 3: keep that run going into the start of the season.

461
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Speaker 3: On Monday, employees and fans flooded the Novacare Complex of

462
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Speaker 3: Philadelphia with a full range of emotions in their pocket.

463
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Speaker 3: During Jason Kelsey's retirement speech, employees were seeing gathered in

464
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Speaker 3: the cafeteria sobbing at the department of this wonderful man

465
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Speaker 3: who was in their building for thirteen years. The sports

466
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Speaker 3: retirement that made you the most emotional, Peter was.

467
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Speaker 7: I remember when it happened, being shocked, but also like

468
00:20:14,708 --> 00:20:16,948
Speaker 7: all right, I get it, and now looking back on it,

469
00:20:17,068 --> 00:20:18,308
Speaker 7: just still what could have been.

470
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Speaker 2: I'm going Tiki Barber.

471
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Speaker 4: Tiki Barber that was all over the place, a Tiki.

472
00:20:23,828 --> 00:20:29,908
Speaker 7: Barber surpassed fifteen hundred yards rushing three straight years and

473
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Speaker 7: accumulated thirty touchdowns three three years, and then retired and

474
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Speaker 7: left the game. He had fifty million dollars left on

475
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Speaker 7: his Giants contract and he decided to go pursue football

476
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Speaker 7: Night in America went to NBC was working on the

477
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Speaker 7: Today Show.

478
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Speaker 4: That was in two thousand and six.

479
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Speaker 7: The very next year, the Giants go on and win

480
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Speaker 7: a Super Bowl and beat the undefeated Patriots. But I

481
00:20:51,508 --> 00:20:53,668
Speaker 7: was a huge Tiky guy. I still am a huge

482
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Speaker 7: Tiki Barber fan. As a running back, maybe the first

483
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Speaker 7: of his of his kind that was then morphed by

484
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Speaker 7: everybody as far as catching and passing out of the backfield.

485
00:21:02,708 --> 00:21:05,868
Speaker 7: Marshall Falk would follow in that in that regardless, and

486
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Speaker 7: then from now you've had a ton of others. But McCaffrey,

487
00:21:09,228 --> 00:21:11,908
Speaker 7: you watch, Tiki was doing that for the Giants twenty

488
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Speaker 7: years ago, left the game at his prime, tried coming

489
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Speaker 7: back five years later, didn't quite make the team, didn't

490
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Speaker 7: quite get their training camp, but did try to come

491
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Speaker 7: back in twenty eleven, made an effort. Remember being really

492
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Speaker 7: bummed by this because that game there against the Raiders

493
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Speaker 7: on New Year's Eve. I remember exactly where it was,

494
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Speaker 7: and Tiki just lit him up, one of the best

495
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Speaker 7: running backs in the generation and just retire to pursue TV.

496
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Speaker 3: He's got emoji's on his four event.

497
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Speaker 4: Oh sweet lit sit.

498
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

499
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Speaker 8: Calvin Calvin was unstoppable and growing up in Michigan just

500
00:21:42,828 --> 00:21:48,148
Speaker 8: watching how defenders had to defend him, and he was unguardabed.

501
00:21:48,148 --> 00:21:51,788
Speaker 8: He was literally unguardable for a young mass staffer for

502
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Speaker 8: a Detroit team that always found a way to not

503
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Speaker 8: get it done. Calvin always found a way to show

504
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Speaker 8: up every week, week in, week out.

505
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Speaker 2: And get it done.

506
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Speaker 8: I know we all remember Pulled Vice and Calvin Johnson

507
00:22:06,348 --> 00:22:09,988
Speaker 8: as a wide receiver. It was two dbs lined up

508
00:22:10,228 --> 00:22:13,868
Speaker 8: on the line of scrimmage of Calvin Johnson. And then

509
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Speaker 8: I remember being younger and just going to training camp

510
00:22:17,668 --> 00:22:20,908
Speaker 8: and just kind of as a kid. Yeah, he would

511
00:22:20,948 --> 00:22:23,668
Speaker 8: he would like walk by and give DAP to all

512
00:22:23,708 --> 00:22:28,428
Speaker 8: the kids. I'm looking like that's a large human being.

513
00:22:29,868 --> 00:22:32,308
Speaker 8: He was just so nice and polite and as uh.

514
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Speaker 8: And then just one day he was like, you know,

515
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Speaker 8: I'm done.

516
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Speaker 2: I retired.

517
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Speaker 8: And then for some reason everybody turned on him like

518
00:22:40,188 --> 00:22:44,228
Speaker 8: he was a feeling like he was like I understand it.

519
00:22:44,428 --> 00:22:47,108
Speaker 8: He came to work day in and day out, and

520
00:22:47,148 --> 00:22:49,828
Speaker 8: they just couldn't get it done year in and year out.

521
00:22:50,068 --> 00:22:52,748
Speaker 8: And so thank you for everything and the memories, Calvin.

522
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Speaker 4: But Calvin heard me.

523
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Speaker 5: I love that, especially draft season, they leave like the

524
00:22:58,788 --> 00:23:01,068
Speaker 5: Calvin Johnson mentioned like way up on the top shelf,

525
00:23:01,148 --> 00:23:03,148
Speaker 5: Like if you hear any Calvin Justice comparison at all,

526
00:23:03,228 --> 00:23:05,148
Speaker 5: then it's like a super Freakye, he's amazing.

527
00:23:05,388 --> 00:23:07,108
Speaker 2: Do you guys know who Richard Fleer is?

528
00:23:07,588 --> 00:23:09,468
Speaker 4: Nope, never heard of Rick Flair.

529
00:23:09,868 --> 00:23:13,348
Speaker 5: Let's go to WrestleMania twenty four in Orlando, Florida. Rick

530
00:23:13,428 --> 00:23:15,428
Speaker 5: Flair is in the ring with Shawn Michaels in a

531
00:23:15,468 --> 00:23:18,268
Speaker 5: retirement match, and he says it would be an honor

532
00:23:18,308 --> 00:23:21,908
Speaker 5: to have Shawn Michaels retire me. In a truly, truly

533
00:23:22,068 --> 00:23:25,148
Speaker 5: poignant moments, Shawn Michaels has already given him the sweet

534
00:23:25,188 --> 00:23:29,548
Speaker 5: chin music. Rick Flair gets up, Shawn Michaels looks at

535
00:23:29,628 --> 00:23:33,588
Speaker 5: him one last time and says, I'm sorry, I love you,

536
00:23:33,988 --> 00:23:36,388
Speaker 5: and then chin music's him again and it's over. And

537
00:23:36,428 --> 00:23:38,988
Speaker 5: that's how Rick Flair was retired, and Michael said so

538
00:23:39,068 --> 00:23:41,468
Speaker 5: much respect for him, and everybody did all the young

539
00:23:41,508 --> 00:23:42,428
Speaker 5: wrestlers love Flair?

540
00:23:42,468 --> 00:23:43,868
Speaker 2: They don't all love the old wrestlers.

541
00:23:43,948 --> 00:23:46,948
Speaker 5: Yeah, But and then Michael's left the ring immediately after winning,

542
00:23:46,988 --> 00:23:50,148
Speaker 5: and Flair got his last ovation, but that I'm sorry,

543
00:23:50,188 --> 00:23:52,228
Speaker 5: I love you right before you kick someone in the face.

544
00:23:52,508 --> 00:23:54,988
Speaker 5: That was when wrestling was wrestling. It used to be

545
00:23:54,988 --> 00:23:56,748
Speaker 5: a proper country now, I love a viewer.

546
00:23:56,828 --> 00:23:59,068
Speaker 7: Did you see that or did we only learn afterwards

547
00:23:59,068 --> 00:24:00,948
Speaker 7: that you see it YouTube?

548
00:24:00,948 --> 00:24:02,868
Speaker 5: It got during the commercial break and he's a close

549
00:24:02,948 --> 00:24:05,188
Speaker 5: up of him and he's ye in inside.

550
00:24:05,228 --> 00:24:06,628
Speaker 2: I mean, Michael's just bring it.

551
00:24:06,668 --> 00:24:08,068
Speaker 4: That's his I'm sorry.

552
00:24:08,388 --> 00:24:12,308
Speaker 5: I love you, dam It's you know what I'm talking about, right, Joe. Oh,

553
00:24:12,308 --> 00:24:13,948
Speaker 5: it's so good, beautiful.

554
00:24:13,508 --> 00:24:15,828
Speaker 3: When major things happen in life, now, that might just

555
00:24:15,828 --> 00:24:17,228
Speaker 3: be the way that you should go out.

556
00:24:17,468 --> 00:24:19,788
Speaker 2: I love you. It's a meme like they meme it.

557
00:24:20,028 --> 00:24:24,508
Speaker 3: It's very applicable. Today, Shaquille O'Neal celebrates his fifty second birthday,

558
00:24:24,708 --> 00:24:26,308
Speaker 3: known as one of the greatest big men in all

559
00:24:26,348 --> 00:24:29,228
Speaker 3: of sports, gravest personality, all that jazz, still in the

560
00:24:29,228 --> 00:24:31,868
Speaker 3: headlines to this day, and rightfully so wonderful soul. Your

561
00:24:31,908 --> 00:24:35,908
Speaker 3: favorite sports big man of all time is Peter.

562
00:24:36,148 --> 00:24:38,348
Speaker 7: We love talking about the Packers of the nineties and

563
00:24:38,428 --> 00:24:40,788
Speaker 7: Farv and Reggie White. I was a Gilbert Brown guy,

564
00:24:40,868 --> 00:24:43,028
Speaker 7: and I love Gilbert Brown. I know John Madden loved

565
00:24:43,028 --> 00:24:47,028
Speaker 7: Gilbert Brown. Gilbert Brown was about three hundred and seventy pounds.

566
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Speaker 2: He would sack quarterbacks and look at us. He would

567
00:24:49,268 --> 00:24:52,388
Speaker 2: do the grave digger, and he would dig your grave.

568
00:24:52,748 --> 00:24:54,548
Speaker 2: It was how's the Brandon on Network? These days, I

569
00:24:54,548 --> 00:24:56,228
Speaker 2: don't think. I don't think we're doing that anymore.

570
00:24:56,348 --> 00:24:57,948
Speaker 7: I don't think you guys probably find if you did that.

571
00:24:58,908 --> 00:24:59,948
Speaker 2: I don't think we go near it.

572
00:25:00,068 --> 00:25:01,028
Speaker 4: We're doing the combine.

573
00:25:01,068 --> 00:25:03,828
Speaker 7: I'm watching defensive tackles run four five forties.

574
00:25:03,828 --> 00:25:06,068
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm a Gilbert Brown guy. You know, like,

575
00:25:06,108 --> 00:25:07,108
Speaker 2: I don't know what he ran.

576
00:25:07,268 --> 00:25:08,628
Speaker 7: I don't think he had to ever run.

577
00:25:08,468 --> 00:25:12,388
Speaker 5: One Gimber Brown was Sarah gooseon and Jason was He

578
00:25:12,508 --> 00:25:13,468
Speaker 5: was like that, you know Goose.

579
00:25:13,588 --> 00:25:14,308
Speaker 4: There was a few of them.

580
00:25:14,348 --> 00:25:17,948
Speaker 7: It was Sam Adams, it was Big TEXTI Washington, Pete Traylor,

581
00:25:18,508 --> 00:25:20,388
Speaker 7: Oh God. And then you had this guy up in

582
00:25:20,428 --> 00:25:22,748
Speaker 7: Green Bay and it was like cold weather and Gilbert Brown.

583
00:25:22,748 --> 00:25:24,548
Speaker 7: You could not run by him. This is an absolute

584
00:25:25,268 --> 00:25:27,068
Speaker 7: run stuffer. And then when he get that sack, you

585
00:25:27,108 --> 00:25:30,388
Speaker 7: would dig your grad. Me.

586
00:25:30,668 --> 00:25:35,988
Speaker 8: I got a Robert track Tyler, Michigan, great answer. Yeah,

587
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Speaker 8: I mean I think, uh, off of nicknames, he had

588
00:25:39,948 --> 00:25:42,868
Speaker 8: one of the best nicknames ever. And you know everybody

589
00:25:42,908 --> 00:25:45,668
Speaker 8: coming from Michigan, but uh, you just.

590
00:25:45,628 --> 00:25:48,548
Speaker 4: Heard of Robert tractor trailer Robert tractor trailer going up

591
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Speaker 4: and I'm like, who is this guy?

592
00:25:50,908 --> 00:25:53,628
Speaker 2: And he was just a big dude.

593
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Speaker 8: On the court, just running up and down, always the

594
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Speaker 8: last one, but he would get fucking he would get

595
00:26:00,748 --> 00:26:02,948
Speaker 8: buckets and he was he was just he was a

596
00:26:03,108 --> 00:26:06,268
Speaker 8: people mover down always on the board.

597
00:26:06,588 --> 00:26:06,708
Speaker 4: Uh.

598
00:26:07,068 --> 00:26:11,348
Speaker 8: Just good memories of just watching basketball with Robert Tractor. Check.

599
00:26:11,668 --> 00:26:14,188
Speaker 7: It's also like the name post fab five, yeah, the

600
00:26:14,348 --> 00:26:14,908
Speaker 7: next air.

601
00:26:14,868 --> 00:26:16,348
Speaker 2: The identity of the other guy.

602
00:26:16,428 --> 00:26:17,588
Speaker 4: Yeah, two of them.

603
00:26:17,628 --> 00:26:19,668
Speaker 5: A good nickname will carry you so far and the

604
00:26:19,708 --> 00:26:21,068
Speaker 5: good way I'm going the same thing.

605
00:26:21,308 --> 00:26:21,508
Speaker 2: I think.

606
00:26:21,548 --> 00:26:23,508
Speaker 5: It was the first professional sporting event I ever went

607
00:26:23,548 --> 00:26:25,708
Speaker 5: to was a Bulls game in probably nineteen eighty seven

608
00:26:25,788 --> 00:26:29,068
Speaker 5: in Chicago Stadium and it was Bulls Jazz and it

609
00:26:29,188 --> 00:26:31,348
Speaker 5: was young Carmelone was like the star in town to

610
00:26:31,348 --> 00:26:34,628
Speaker 5: play Jordan. But the Jazz had a center named Mark

611
00:26:35,628 --> 00:26:39,548
Speaker 5: aka mount Eaton. And I was about nine years old

612
00:26:39,588 --> 00:26:42,668
Speaker 5: and Mount Eaton was seven foot four in the eighties,

613
00:26:43,108 --> 00:26:46,668
Speaker 5: like that seven foot four and you, as a little kid,

614
00:26:46,668 --> 00:26:48,308
Speaker 5: you're like seven four.

615
00:26:48,148 --> 00:26:50,388
Speaker 2: That's even possible. I couldn't wrap my mind around it.

616
00:26:50,428 --> 00:26:52,388
Speaker 2: And then you learned his name Mount Eaton.

617
00:26:52,788 --> 00:26:54,548
Speaker 5: I know Aaron Rodgers was talking to some of you

618
00:26:54,628 --> 00:26:57,268
Speaker 5: somewhere that he liked Mark Eaton as well. Yeah it

619
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Speaker 5: was Manu Bawl got all the attention because he was

620
00:26:59,588 --> 00:27:01,948
Speaker 5: seven to seven, but eating at seven four had all

621
00:27:02,028 --> 00:27:04,108
Speaker 5: kinds of nasty underneath through I love Mount Eaton.

622
00:27:04,388 --> 00:27:06,268
Speaker 3: Can I tell a quick story. My mother in law

623
00:27:06,348 --> 00:27:08,748
Speaker 3: is the sweetest little lady. And when my husband and

624
00:27:08,788 --> 00:27:11,148
Speaker 3: his brother were like in their early teens, they gave

625
00:27:11,188 --> 00:27:13,588
Speaker 3: her three options for nicknames, like Mom, we want to

626
00:27:13,588 --> 00:27:15,948
Speaker 3: call you a nickname. She was given the option big

627
00:27:16,028 --> 00:27:19,868
Speaker 3: Unit after Randy Johnson chef Diesel or just Diesel, and

628
00:27:19,908 --> 00:27:22,588
Speaker 3: Big Country after Brian Reads. And she was like, I

629
00:27:22,588 --> 00:27:24,868
Speaker 3: hate them all, but I hate Diesel the least, and

630
00:27:24,908 --> 00:27:26,788
Speaker 3: out to this day all of his friends call her

631
00:27:26,828 --> 00:27:30,468
Speaker 3: the Diesel is still to this day like and she

632
00:27:30,668 --> 00:27:32,748
Speaker 3: kind of hates it, but I even am like the Diesel.

633
00:27:32,788 --> 00:27:33,188
Speaker 4: How you doing?

634
00:27:33,268 --> 00:27:35,228
Speaker 3: I mean, Peggy, I love you like it's just.

635
00:27:36,788 --> 00:27:38,348
Speaker 5: Country flies a little close to the sun for me,

636
00:27:38,708 --> 00:27:39,748
Speaker 5: Like I would go with Diesel.

637
00:27:39,868 --> 00:27:43,828
Speaker 3: Yeah, good options, really good options coming up. Josh Allen

638
00:27:43,908 --> 00:27:47,508
Speaker 3: wardrobe malfunction during fashion week. Josh Allen, come on, you

639
00:27:47,548 --> 00:27:49,148
Speaker 3: got to have things buttoned up. Man we're going to

640
00:27:49,188 --> 00:28:06,868
Speaker 3: explain after the break good morning, when the frenzy starts

641
00:28:06,868 --> 00:28:11,108
Speaker 3: on Monday. Because of the position considered and the team

642
00:28:11,228 --> 00:28:13,828
Speaker 3: he has played for and everything he's gone through in

643
00:28:13,868 --> 00:28:16,748
Speaker 3: terms of the betting on yourself mentality, is Kirk Cousins

644
00:28:16,788 --> 00:28:18,548
Speaker 3: the bell of the free agency ball, Peter?

645
00:28:18,788 --> 00:28:19,268
Speaker 2: I think so.

646
00:28:19,668 --> 00:28:21,748
Speaker 7: I think he's the first piece to move, and no

647
00:28:21,828 --> 00:28:24,548
Speaker 7: other pieces at quarterback will move until he makes his decision.

648
00:28:24,548 --> 00:28:28,668
Speaker 7: What's interesting is that we did this exact conversation in

649
00:28:28,708 --> 00:28:31,988
Speaker 7: twenty eighteen. I remember being at this exact table talking

650
00:28:31,988 --> 00:28:35,428
Speaker 7: about how the Jets are interested, Washington's still open to it,

651
00:28:36,068 --> 00:28:38,268
Speaker 7: and the Vikings are this wild card that might come

652
00:28:38,268 --> 00:28:39,148
Speaker 7: in and just wow.

653
00:28:39,428 --> 00:28:39,988
Speaker 2: And remember the.

654
00:28:40,028 --> 00:28:42,348
Speaker 7: Vikings had just gone to the NFC Championship game with

655
00:28:42,428 --> 00:28:45,148
Speaker 7: case Keenum and they were like, Nope, we're gonna have

656
00:28:45,188 --> 00:28:46,908
Speaker 7: to get over the hump. We're gonna go get Kirk

657
00:28:46,948 --> 00:28:49,348
Speaker 7: Cousins and gave him what was then one of the

658
00:28:49,348 --> 00:28:52,628
Speaker 7: first fully guaranteed monster quarterback deals.

659
00:28:53,428 --> 00:28:54,868
Speaker 4: That was five six years ago.

660
00:28:55,148 --> 00:28:56,708
Speaker 2: We're back at this very table.

661
00:28:56,828 --> 00:29:00,468
Speaker 7: He's thirty six years old, coming off a torn achilles,

662
00:29:00,988 --> 00:29:03,308
Speaker 7: and I think he might get paid more money than

663
00:29:03,308 --> 00:29:06,228
Speaker 7: that deal. And he's still might get all the guaranteed money,

664
00:29:06,348 --> 00:29:08,828
Speaker 7: and he's won one playoff game in between. I don't

665
00:29:09,028 --> 00:29:11,948
Speaker 7: know if he has a you know, a situation where

666
00:29:12,028 --> 00:29:13,348
Speaker 7: him and Minnesota can come together.

667
00:29:13,708 --> 00:29:15,308
Speaker 4: But for right now, we're here in Atlanta.

668
00:29:15,428 --> 00:29:17,828
Speaker 7: Is a lead dog, and Minnesota's still wants him in

669
00:29:17,868 --> 00:29:20,028
Speaker 7: some capacity, just might not be able to get to

670
00:29:20,108 --> 00:29:22,748
Speaker 7: the right contract numbers. Is there a third horse in

671
00:29:22,788 --> 00:29:25,068
Speaker 7: the race. Is there a third team that comes in

672
00:29:25,108 --> 00:29:26,948
Speaker 7: and says, you know what, We're gonna give you the

673
00:29:26,948 --> 00:29:28,028
Speaker 7: guaranteed money.

674
00:29:27,828 --> 00:29:29,548
Speaker 4: We'll give you the years, and we think we can

675
00:29:29,588 --> 00:29:30,148
Speaker 4: win with you.

676
00:29:30,388 --> 00:29:32,868
Speaker 7: I'm fascinating to see how Kirk Cousins goes because you know,

677
00:29:32,948 --> 00:29:34,748
Speaker 7: as much as I love Chris Jones and as much

678
00:29:34,788 --> 00:29:37,908
Speaker 7: as I love Sakuon Barkley, the quarterback position is the

679
00:29:37,948 --> 00:29:39,908
Speaker 7: highest paid position in the league, and as long as

680
00:29:39,908 --> 00:29:42,588
Speaker 7: he's got two teams vying for his services, he's gonna

681
00:29:42,588 --> 00:29:43,468
Speaker 7: be the first piece to move.

682
00:29:44,148 --> 00:29:47,468
Speaker 8: I thought that he was the best at the ball

683
00:29:47,668 --> 00:29:53,828
Speaker 8: and tail Russell wella russellrella, because he's senderella.

684
00:29:55,108 --> 00:29:58,588
Speaker 3: That I came up with something creative. I want to

685
00:29:58,588 --> 00:29:59,028
Speaker 3: say it again.

686
00:30:01,788 --> 00:30:05,188
Speaker 4: His twenty four contract is already paid. Yeah, veteran.

687
00:30:05,708 --> 00:30:07,388
Speaker 7: One point two million is what you could probably get

688
00:30:07,428 --> 00:30:08,308
Speaker 7: Russe Williams Wilson for.

689
00:30:09,028 --> 00:30:09,468
Speaker 4: Why not?

690
00:30:09,708 --> 00:30:12,188
Speaker 8: Why not go out there and try to, you know,

691
00:30:12,308 --> 00:30:15,228
Speaker 8: find that glass shoe. Bring him to a team that

692
00:30:15,308 --> 00:30:18,588
Speaker 8: has a good wide receiver, corps, a good running back,

693
00:30:19,108 --> 00:30:23,588
Speaker 8: stable offensive coordinator, and he can get you all over

694
00:30:23,628 --> 00:30:26,028
Speaker 8: the hump. He's been there before, He's won a lot

695
00:30:26,028 --> 00:30:28,828
Speaker 8: of playoff games. If you have a good defense, He's

696
00:30:28,868 --> 00:30:33,348
Speaker 8: a good fit for your team. He really god fearing man,

697
00:30:34,268 --> 00:30:37,508
Speaker 8: he's a leader. So you bring him in and he's

698
00:30:37,548 --> 00:30:40,108
Speaker 8: already paid. You don't have to pay him. You bringing

699
00:30:40,148 --> 00:30:42,748
Speaker 8: in a proven veteran that you don't really have to

700
00:30:42,828 --> 00:30:44,068
Speaker 8: pay top dollars.

701
00:30:44,148 --> 00:30:47,188
Speaker 4: So if you go get Kirt, you have to pay really.

702
00:30:47,068 --> 00:30:49,868
Speaker 7: Good forty five million dollars for Kirk Cousin that's playing

703
00:30:49,868 --> 00:30:52,068
Speaker 7: out a number, or one point two million dollars for

704
00:30:52,188 --> 00:30:54,028
Speaker 7: Russell Wilson. If you're a player, who would you rather

705
00:30:54,068 --> 00:30:54,788
Speaker 7: have on the squad?

706
00:30:54,908 --> 00:30:57,548
Speaker 4: Easy take? You still can bring in other free agents.

707
00:30:57,628 --> 00:30:59,228
Speaker 4: You still can bring in other guys.

708
00:30:59,588 --> 00:31:03,188
Speaker 8: You give Russell a one two year deal, but you

709
00:31:03,348 --> 00:31:05,948
Speaker 8: still have a lot of cap room to bring in

710
00:31:06,068 --> 00:31:08,908
Speaker 8: other guys and piece that around and then one or

711
00:31:08,948 --> 00:31:11,708
Speaker 8: two years if you think he's the guy, then you

712
00:31:11,708 --> 00:31:13,908
Speaker 8: can pay them. You can pay them again, and it

713
00:31:13,988 --> 00:31:16,228
Speaker 8: might be it might not be that high. I just

714
00:31:16,348 --> 00:31:20,788
Speaker 8: think that Denver wasn't the place to him. That wasn't

715
00:31:20,908 --> 00:31:23,468
Speaker 8: a system for him. That wasn't the thing for him.

716
00:31:23,868 --> 00:31:27,948
Speaker 8: He's he's a playmaker. His stats.

717
00:31:28,708 --> 00:31:29,708
Speaker 7: It's not a Russell problem.

718
00:31:29,708 --> 00:31:30,988
Speaker 2: You're saying it's a Denver problem.

719
00:31:30,988 --> 00:31:32,868
Speaker 4: That's interesting. I don't know.

720
00:31:33,508 --> 00:31:35,748
Speaker 2: It wasn't right, You're not done with Russ.

721
00:31:36,468 --> 00:31:38,388
Speaker 4: I don't think he's a bad quarterback. I don't think

722
00:31:38,388 --> 00:31:39,228
Speaker 4: he's a bad quarterback.

723
00:31:39,268 --> 00:31:41,148
Speaker 8: I think he can make all the throws that he

724
00:31:41,268 --> 00:31:44,428
Speaker 8: still had he always been able to make. I think

725
00:31:44,428 --> 00:31:47,828
Speaker 8: he has this capability in the pocket. He doesn't turn

726
00:31:47,868 --> 00:31:51,148
Speaker 8: the ball over that much, and uh he throw he

727
00:31:51,188 --> 00:31:52,548
Speaker 8: throws touch at So.

728
00:31:52,508 --> 00:31:55,028
Speaker 5: Let me let me give you just like the general

729
00:31:55,588 --> 00:31:59,028
Speaker 5: Internet guide to the anti Russell Wilson in this case,

730
00:31:59,108 --> 00:32:00,348
Speaker 5: so thirty.

731
00:32:00,108 --> 00:32:00,788
Speaker 2: Six years old.

732
00:32:00,828 --> 00:32:05,028
Speaker 5: This year played really really poorly, two years ago, played average,

733
00:32:05,148 --> 00:32:07,668
Speaker 5: maybe a little bit better. Last year succeeded in Seattle

734
00:32:07,668 --> 00:32:09,668
Speaker 5: because he had an all time defense and a great

735
00:32:09,748 --> 00:32:12,548
Speaker 5: running game. They kind of hid his deficiencies and his

736
00:32:12,628 --> 00:32:15,708
Speaker 5: personalities eccentric and might not resonate with every locker room.

737
00:32:15,868 --> 00:32:17,268
Speaker 5: Any of those pop for you, or you're like, what

738
00:32:17,308 --> 00:32:18,628
Speaker 5: the hell is Russell Wilson sign up?

739
00:32:18,828 --> 00:32:19,148
Speaker 2: Man?

740
00:32:19,948 --> 00:32:21,868
Speaker 8: I just think if you have a good enough locker

741
00:32:21,948 --> 00:32:24,708
Speaker 8: room and a good enough team, maybe don't bring him

742
00:32:24,748 --> 00:32:27,508
Speaker 8: in to be the leader. If you have a good

743
00:32:27,628 --> 00:32:30,468
Speaker 8: enough team and a good enough unit with a good

744
00:32:30,588 --> 00:32:33,508
Speaker 8: enough coreps to bring him in is like, hey, we

745
00:32:33,708 --> 00:32:36,628
Speaker 8: just need you to win games as quarterbacks. We don't

746
00:32:36,668 --> 00:32:39,588
Speaker 8: need you to turn our locker room into something that

747
00:32:39,708 --> 00:32:41,948
Speaker 8: is not. We already have a good culture here.

748
00:32:42,228 --> 00:32:44,508
Speaker 4: Already, we already know where we're going.

749
00:32:44,588 --> 00:32:48,308
Speaker 8: We already see our young leaders coming up to be leaders.

750
00:32:48,348 --> 00:32:50,868
Speaker 8: We know who our captains are. You just come in

751
00:32:50,908 --> 00:32:53,228
Speaker 8: and win games. You don't have to do it. You

752
00:32:53,268 --> 00:32:55,548
Speaker 8: don't have to do all the fancy stuff. You don't

753
00:32:55,588 --> 00:32:57,828
Speaker 8: have to do what you had to do at the

754
00:32:57,868 --> 00:33:01,268
Speaker 8: other two teams. Just come in. And I mean because

755
00:33:01,588 --> 00:33:03,268
Speaker 8: I think he's still gonna make the throws, and if

756
00:33:03,308 --> 00:33:06,628
Speaker 8: you got them for thirty seven thirty eight, yeah you

757
00:33:06,748 --> 00:33:08,788
Speaker 8: go a different direction if it didn't work out. But

758
00:33:09,188 --> 00:33:11,388
Speaker 8: to not have to mate him, I think that's the

759
00:33:11,468 --> 00:33:12,628
Speaker 8: biggest piece you guys.

760
00:33:12,828 --> 00:33:14,988
Speaker 5: Let me talk about him, like are you in text

761
00:33:14,988 --> 00:33:17,708
Speaker 5: Shane's And there's there's memes about Russell Wilson, there's jokes

762
00:33:17,708 --> 00:33:20,308
Speaker 5: and all that, Like people talk about him as a

763
00:33:20,348 --> 00:33:22,068
Speaker 5: guy still or is it like a punchline?

764
00:33:22,068 --> 00:33:24,068
Speaker 2: What is the reputation right now Russell Wilson.

765
00:33:23,788 --> 00:33:25,628
Speaker 8: That I mean, when you play him, you have to

766
00:33:25,668 --> 00:33:28,028
Speaker 8: respect him because of what he did. I think, I

767
00:33:28,028 --> 00:33:31,908
Speaker 8: think everybody respects the game. But it jokes about everybody.

768
00:33:31,988 --> 00:33:34,988
Speaker 4: It jokes about me, it's you know, it jokes about.

769
00:33:34,788 --> 00:33:38,388
Speaker 8: Patrick Mahomes, which we might think is the greatest quarterback

770
00:33:39,068 --> 00:33:41,068
Speaker 8: right now, and so I mean, it's great.

771
00:33:41,068 --> 00:33:42,028
Speaker 2: Jokes about Tom Brad.

772
00:33:42,108 --> 00:33:44,628
Speaker 8: It jokes about everybody, So we gonna make jokes. And

773
00:33:44,628 --> 00:33:46,308
Speaker 8: then I think it's just easy to.

774
00:33:46,308 --> 00:33:47,148
Speaker 2: Make jokes about.

775
00:33:47,388 --> 00:33:49,308
Speaker 4: So gonna make more jokes.

776
00:33:49,148 --> 00:33:53,268
Speaker 3: About well, regardless if it's if it's Russell Rella or

777
00:33:53,388 --> 00:33:55,668
Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins. Who's the bell of the free agency ball,

778
00:33:55,868 --> 00:33:58,748
Speaker 3: there's still a domino effect of quarterbacks as we look

779
00:33:58,788 --> 00:34:01,908
Speaker 3: through the top free agent quarterbacks available at the moment,

780
00:34:02,188 --> 00:34:04,948
Speaker 3: because you also have Baker Mayfield on that list. Coming

781
00:34:04,948 --> 00:34:08,108
Speaker 3: off a playoff win with the Bucks, Baker has seemingly

782
00:34:08,148 --> 00:34:10,388
Speaker 3: said he would love to go back there. Obviously the

783
00:34:10,428 --> 00:34:12,948
Speaker 3: number has to be right. It hasn't been right just yet.

784
00:34:12,988 --> 00:34:16,308
Speaker 3: So Peter maybe who order this NFL dot com slash

785
00:34:16,388 --> 00:34:19,188
Speaker 3: Rosenthal is I like, Greg.

786
00:34:19,068 --> 00:34:21,068
Speaker 7: Is he trying to Jacobe Brissett's over Baker?

787
00:34:21,828 --> 00:34:23,228
Speaker 2: That's an interesting Yeah.

788
00:34:24,028 --> 00:34:24,668
Speaker 4: I like Kobe.

789
00:34:24,988 --> 00:34:25,068
Speaker 6: No.

790
00:34:25,188 --> 00:34:27,068
Speaker 3: For a second, I was like, look at for Baker's name, like, oh,

791
00:34:27,108 --> 00:34:29,188
Speaker 3: there it is. I didn't really, it didn't connect who

792
00:34:29,228 --> 00:34:32,388
Speaker 3: was above him. Okay, Greg Rosenthal, we'll just we'll ask.

793
00:34:32,508 --> 00:34:34,508
Speaker 2: I respect it. That's a take. You have a list.

794
00:34:34,908 --> 00:34:36,308
Speaker 2: I got Baker over Jacoby based on.

795
00:34:36,388 --> 00:34:39,668
Speaker 3: Last year m slash Sriggerer was really good.

796
00:34:39,748 --> 00:34:43,108
Speaker 7: Daniel Jones contract is fascinating. So the Giants paid Daniel

797
00:34:43,188 --> 00:34:46,628
Speaker 7: Jones forty million dollars last year, and I think a

798
00:34:46,628 --> 00:34:49,268
Speaker 7: lot of these quarterbacks see that. Look, if you paid

799
00:34:49,348 --> 00:34:51,508
Speaker 7: Daniel Jones that, then I should get paid that. The

800
00:34:51,588 --> 00:34:53,188
Speaker 7: question is do you have two teams willing to pay

801
00:34:53,188 --> 00:34:54,908
Speaker 7: you that fascinating to see what the number is with

802
00:34:54,988 --> 00:34:58,068
Speaker 7: Baker because they didn't franchise tag them in Tampa. You

803
00:34:58,108 --> 00:35:00,748
Speaker 7: go to Baker Mayfield and you say, all right, they

804
00:35:00,828 --> 00:35:03,068
Speaker 7: hired the offensive corner of Liam Kahn, who was with

805
00:35:03,188 --> 00:35:05,868
Speaker 7: Baker for that brief time. I'm in Los Angeles as

806
00:35:05,908 --> 00:35:08,748
Speaker 7: the Rams, so there's a comfort level there. Todd Bowles

807
00:35:08,828 --> 00:35:10,388
Speaker 7: was on at the combine with me. It was like

808
00:35:10,548 --> 00:35:13,228
Speaker 7: Priority one is bringing back Baker Mayfield, Like we'd love

809
00:35:13,228 --> 00:35:13,668
Speaker 7: to have Baker.

810
00:35:14,068 --> 00:35:16,508
Speaker 2: The Bucks have said they want him. What's the number?

811
00:35:16,548 --> 00:35:16,748
Speaker 6: Though?

812
00:35:17,228 --> 00:35:19,268
Speaker 7: You know I started the show talking about Antoine Winfield,

813
00:35:19,268 --> 00:35:19,908
Speaker 7: another buccaneer.

814
00:35:19,988 --> 00:35:22,428
Speaker 2: You can't pay everybody you paid Mike, you.

815
00:35:22,508 --> 00:35:25,588
Speaker 7: Paid Mike Evans, Like do you skimp on paying Baker

816
00:35:25,628 --> 00:35:26,668
Speaker 7: Mayfield a few million?

817
00:35:26,708 --> 00:35:27,268
Speaker 2: And risk?

818
00:35:27,308 --> 00:35:29,548
Speaker 7: What's behind door number two? Which I guess is Kyle Trask?

819
00:35:29,588 --> 00:35:31,228
Speaker 7: And is there another team that's going to pay Baker?

820
00:35:31,348 --> 00:35:33,988
Speaker 7: I look to you, Matthew Judhon Baker Mayfield to the

821
00:35:34,028 --> 00:35:35,988
Speaker 7: New England Patriots? Would that be of interest to you?

822
00:35:36,788 --> 00:35:39,308
Speaker 8: Strict the bank hashad come to the Patriots. I just

823
00:35:39,388 --> 00:35:43,908
Speaker 8: think it's hard to get a quarterback after one year

824
00:35:44,348 --> 00:35:46,228
Speaker 8: and say this is who he's going to be. If

825
00:35:46,268 --> 00:35:48,708
Speaker 8: that's two or three years, kind of like her Cousins

826
00:35:48,708 --> 00:35:52,628
Speaker 8: has improved it, then yeah, break the breaking for him.

827
00:35:52,908 --> 00:35:56,068
Speaker 4: But it's just tough to and like you've seen it,

828
00:35:56,108 --> 00:35:56,668
Speaker 4: You've seen.

829
00:35:56,468 --> 00:35:59,148
Speaker 8: It in Dan Jones, Right, all right, we're gonna pay

830
00:35:59,228 --> 00:36:03,868
Speaker 8: him so much more than everybody else. Now we have

831
00:36:03,948 --> 00:36:07,748
Speaker 8: to look put at you to be a leader and

832
00:36:07,828 --> 00:36:10,788
Speaker 8: be the best player weekend and week out because.

833
00:36:10,508 --> 00:36:11,308
Speaker 2: You're getting paid the most.

834
00:36:11,348 --> 00:36:14,188
Speaker 8: When you're getting paid the most, it comes with unwanted pressure.

835
00:36:14,468 --> 00:36:16,428
Speaker 8: So Baker can't get paid.

836
00:36:16,268 --> 00:36:18,468
Speaker 4: More than Mike Evans in that locker room. I don't

837
00:36:18,468 --> 00:36:20,468
Speaker 4: think you're paying more than Mike Evans in that locker room.

838
00:36:20,548 --> 00:36:21,108
Speaker 2: Let me get something.

839
00:36:21,188 --> 00:36:23,308
Speaker 4: I'm a Baker fan, but I don't know. It's hard

840
00:36:23,428 --> 00:36:24,108
Speaker 4: you you have.

841
00:36:24,108 --> 00:36:27,028
Speaker 5: Played him seven times in your career because Baltimore Cleveland

842
00:36:27,068 --> 00:36:28,908
Speaker 5: was going on all the time. The last time you

843
00:36:28,948 --> 00:36:31,668
Speaker 5: played him, you won forty five to seven, Like you

844
00:36:31,748 --> 00:36:35,148
Speaker 5: just destroyed him. Just when Jason's here, sometimes there's one

845
00:36:35,228 --> 00:36:37,628
Speaker 5: quarterback he often refers to off the air as we

846
00:36:37,668 --> 00:36:38,708
Speaker 5: didn't worry about that guy.

847
00:36:38,748 --> 00:36:39,948
Speaker 2: That's not a guy who worried. I'm not going to

848
00:36:39,988 --> 00:36:40,508
Speaker 2: say his name.

849
00:36:41,108 --> 00:36:43,628
Speaker 5: When you're going up against Baker Mayfield the week leading

850
00:36:43,668 --> 00:36:45,668
Speaker 5: up to are you're like, oh man, we're worried about Baker,

851
00:36:45,748 --> 00:36:46,748
Speaker 5: Like that's a guy or is it?

852
00:36:46,828 --> 00:36:48,588
Speaker 2: Like you know, there's some other things on the team

853
00:36:48,588 --> 00:36:51,268
Speaker 2: we're more concerned about. Well, I understand why Jason said that.

854
00:36:51,268 --> 00:36:56,348
Speaker 7: Off air, but as everyone furiously goes and looks at

855
00:36:56,388 --> 00:36:58,388
Speaker 7: who Jason, I'm not going to say it now.

856
00:36:58,588 --> 00:37:01,948
Speaker 4: Yeah, but as as a quarterback, he has.

857
00:37:01,828 --> 00:37:04,228
Speaker 8: The arm talent and we all see the arm talent

858
00:37:04,468 --> 00:37:07,548
Speaker 8: and stuff, and then it just comes down.

859
00:37:07,388 --> 00:37:08,188
Speaker 4: The decision making.

860
00:37:08,268 --> 00:37:12,348
Speaker 8: I think he's getting better at processing and all that stuff,

861
00:37:12,388 --> 00:37:13,748
Speaker 8: but if they're.

862
00:37:13,588 --> 00:37:15,228
Speaker 2: Gona give him forty million, he better be a killer.

863
00:37:15,308 --> 00:37:17,748
Speaker 4: He gotta be that And you've got to be that guy.

864
00:37:18,028 --> 00:37:21,988
Speaker 8: You have to be that guy at anything twenty seven

865
00:37:22,028 --> 00:37:24,348
Speaker 8: plus as a quarterback of the year, you got to

866
00:37:24,388 --> 00:37:24,868
Speaker 8: be that guy.

867
00:37:25,148 --> 00:37:26,268
Speaker 4: You have to be that guy.

868
00:37:26,668 --> 00:37:28,668
Speaker 8: And then you know, I don't know if they will

869
00:37:28,748 --> 00:37:31,188
Speaker 8: want to lock him up for three plus years, yeah,

870
00:37:31,308 --> 00:37:34,348
Speaker 8: three four years, and now you are that leader in

871
00:37:34,348 --> 00:37:36,988
Speaker 8: that locker room, and it's kind of hard. It's just

872
00:37:37,108 --> 00:37:40,188
Speaker 8: hard when you won a championship with Tom Brady first

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Speaker 8: year and then nobody really remembered.

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Speaker 2: The jamis He's like, gosh, we.

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Speaker 4: Champions, and so now you want to get back to

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Speaker 4: that level.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting the parallel to bring a full circle what

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Speaker 3: you said about Russ and he could go somewhere as

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Speaker 3: long as he doesn't have to be like the locker

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Speaker 3: room leader and the guy, well, you're not going to

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Speaker 3: pay him the most money. So it's interesting you said

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Speaker 3: the unwanted pressure that comes with being the highest paid

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Speaker 3: and the quarterback in a room if Baker, if that

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Speaker 3: is applied to Baker, that's tough. Us could go somewhere

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Speaker 3: and you could be like the selfless, cheap quarterback who

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Speaker 3: just wants to come in and help the team win.

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Speaker 3: So that's kind of a cool string to connect between

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Speaker 3: the two. This all is gonna kick off next week

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Speaker 3: on Monday Free Agency Frenzy Monday eleven am Eastern. You

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Speaker 3: get all the latest from the NFL Media Insider group

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Speaker 3: along with our analysts, our reporters. People will be set

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Speaker 3: up across the league. You can get live free agency

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Speaker 3: coverage with Free Agency Frenzy starting Monday eleven am on

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Speaker 3: NFL Network and NFL Plus. What's still come on this show.

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Speaker 3: We're not trying to press pass forward just yet. Where

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Speaker 3: will some of these top prospects be playing come September?

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Speaker 5: All right, Plus, our guy Matthew jude On gives us

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Speaker 5: all the Boston team. We're gonna have a party right

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Speaker 5: after this bella check okay with.

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Speaker 2: Those red sleeves. He wasn't like Jude on, take that

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Speaker 2: crap off. What are you doing? Nah, it's good for him.