1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club O Cowboys. This he 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: is Girls Talk Boys Talk, presented by Jigsaw Dating, preferred 4 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: dating partner of the Dallas Cowboys, and broadcasting live from 5 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. Well. Good morning, everybody, 6 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: Welcome to Girls Talk Boys Talk, presented by Jigsaw, the 7 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 1: preferred dating partner of the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, we are 8 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: already at the end of March. I don't know how 9 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: that flew by, but we are here in the SUBC 10 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,639 Speaker 1: podcast studio here at the beautiful in Cloudy Star in Frisco. 11 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: Some sunshine would be a little bit nice today. But 12 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: how are you doing? I'm jessin Bars. I'm your host 13 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: for today. Hailey Sutton is enjoying a nice, well deserved vacation. 14 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: So I'm joined by Christie Scales Morrison over here Tooma right, 15 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 1: we played musical chairs when everybody shifts around. It's very 16 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: weird looking at you, to my rights, It's something I 17 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: can't get used to you. But how are you guys doing? 18 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: How how was the last week since we talked? Christy? 19 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 1: How are you doing? You went to see an incredible 20 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: show yesterday some of the couple of friends on Cowboys 21 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: Cheerleaders see Moulin Rouge. Is a huge week I know 22 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: for you, Jess Taylor Swift. Don't get at and T 23 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: Stadium this weekend. And of course today is opening day 24 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: for Texas Rangers, so headed out there this afternoon. But 25 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:34,559 Speaker 1: a lot going on, But I feel so much better 26 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: because the resigning of Jonathan Hankins. It may not be 27 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: you know, on the Crawl and on all of the 28 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: national shows, right sports shows, but that's a significant signing 29 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: for the Cowboys and really going to help the defense. Yeah, 30 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: let's jump right in because Aisha, you were the first 31 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: person I thought of when I saw the news break 32 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: of this signing. Girls Talk, Boys Talk is officially three 33 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: for three at our sales pitches with Jerry Jones sid 34 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: the hired me. It was sure it was sleep Fraud 35 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: office heard you loud and clear. Jonathan Hankins back to 36 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys on a one year deal worth about 37 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: give or take about one point five million dollars. Keep 38 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: in mind, this is hankins eleventh season overall, his second 39 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: with Dallas. Here's something that really stood out to me. 40 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: When I was looking at his statistics, he only played 41 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: five games last season, and he was that impactful to 42 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: where he was at the top of Cowboys Nations wish list, 43 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,679 Speaker 1: if you will, of free agents to bring back. So 44 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: let's get to it. Because his stats ten combined total tackles, 45 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 1: his statuet isn't what made him an impact player. So, Aisha, 46 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: what does Hankins give the defense overall as a whole? 47 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: What is this resigning, this welcome back, if you will, 48 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: What does it do for this dan Quinn defense and 49 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: how does it solidify them going into next season. It's 50 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: kind of like a terry on top to me with 51 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 1: them bringing back Donovan Wilson, you know, lay Vanders just 52 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: kind of how they have attacked adding Stepmon Gilmore, how 53 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: they've attacked keeping this defense together. If it's not broke, 54 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: don't fix it and say, and so now that they 55 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: have a foundation, they can build upon that. And I 56 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: also think it's important with Hankins in particular, he allows 57 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: those defensive ends which could be considered the Cowboys you know, 58 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: defensive strength that at the front seventh, he allows them 59 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: to get after the quarterback freely. He takes on double teams, 60 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: He takes on a lot of the trash and what 61 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: he does is specific. It's difficult to do. A lot 62 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: of guys cannot do it in the league, and it 63 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: takes time to get to that point to where you 64 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: do it well, to where people value that so much. 65 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: It's not he's not so much of a pass rush guy, 66 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: but who cares like he's there to take up space, 67 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: Big hank And he's such a dope dude. He's such 68 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: a nice guy also too, he sat, he will talk 69 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: to you about the game. Very glad to have him 70 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: back in this locker room and to continue this foundation 71 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: that this defense is like building in a way, or 72 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: if they have built. I'm excited for him to be back. Man. 73 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Christy. What does Hankins do for the defense? 74 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: How does this solidify that you're not going to see 75 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: a drop off in that run defense like you know 76 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: we we pretty much did see a bit of a 77 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: drop off when Hankins and LV were out. How does 78 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: this how does he help exactly break it down for us? 79 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: What does he do to kind of stop that run 80 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: defense from being the kryptonite of the defense overall? I 81 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: think the happiest person after this signing of Hankins should 82 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: and it is Late Vanderish exactly. It is along with 83 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: dan Quinn Late and Vanderesh, I would be throwing a party. 84 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: And then if I were lating. Now here's the thing. 85 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: And when you say foundation, I think that's a very 86 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: apt metaphor. Picture a pyramid, or better yet, picture a 87 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: Jenga tower. Okay, okay, And the Jena tower is your 88 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: defense and Jonathan Hankins is that block in the bottom middle. 89 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: And if you pull that out, if you don't have 90 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: that strong one, it fit's gone. What's going to happen? 91 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: The tower will collapse. Another another metaphor I'd like to use, 92 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: and I was thinking about it driving here to day 93 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: for this podcast is coming out of my neighborhood. There's 94 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: an elementary school kind of like in the middle of 95 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 1: the block. And of course you have to go twenty 96 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: miles an hour when you get there, but before you 97 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: get their cars would tear down that that street. And 98 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: so what they did is they put in three different 99 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: sets of speed bumps and a defensive tackle. Your job 100 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: is to be a human speed bump. Talk about this morning. 101 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: So that's the thing Hankins you talk about just about 102 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: the stat line, is it? Yeah? And I used to 103 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: talks about doing all the trash, right, and that's what 104 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: it is. You're you're not going to make every tackle. 105 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: You cannot measure a defensive tackle's worth by tackles or sacks, 106 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 1: but by like you say, tying people up, tying up 107 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: the offensive linemen and creating space for the people behind 108 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 1: you linebacker, if it's Donovan Wilson coming up making a play, 109 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: if if Michael Parsons is going to do something of 110 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 1: the you know, if you playing back instead of rushing 111 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: off the edge. So I think it's a really really 112 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: big deal to have Jonathan Hankins. Now we know that 113 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 1: he had the pectoral injury last year and missed some 114 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: time in December, but was able to come back and 115 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: add two postseason games to that resume. But this is 116 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: a big deal literally and figuratively. Oh yeah yeah. And 117 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: when I mean, I was talking to somebody about it yesterday. 118 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 1: Because of how the forty nine Ers game went down, 119 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: You just forget how dominant the Cowboys defense was. I mean, 120 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey wanted to go home, he did not. I'm 121 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 1: just being like, they really took it to them. Defensively 122 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: and so and we got to see it to me 123 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: a little glimpse of what this run defense can be 124 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: when they're all together. Because there were different instances where 125 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: they weren't, you know, where they were different guys were 126 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: injured and stuff. But when you got to see it 127 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: all come together, you were like, oh, man, they actually 128 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: have something also to just the standard of what DQ 129 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: was asking for. Yeah, schematically, you know, just knowing that 130 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: guys know where they're supposed to be, they know and 131 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: that allows them to play fast. Is they all talk about, 132 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: all the coordinators talk about is playing fast. And so 133 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: I also think that's important too, is that he understands 134 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: the scheme and the job that he's supposed to do 135 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: his role in this defense, which is not nothing flashy, 136 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: but it is important to what they need. Oh it's 137 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: so important. And unless thing it's so affordable too. Yeah 138 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: that's huge, right because you're paying the big guy, you know, 139 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: big money on the back end. But if you don't 140 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: have that Jenga block at the bottom to hold the 141 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: whole stack up, then doesn't matter what you pay the 142 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: guys on the upper part. If the bottom, if the 143 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: whole tower is going to collapse because you don't have 144 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: a solid foundation on the bottom. And what I loved 145 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: We'll get into more of what Stephen and Jerry Jones 146 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: had to say this week at the NFL Owners Meeting, 147 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: but what I love that he mentioned Stephen Jones specifically, 148 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,559 Speaker 1: is that with building this team comes with keeping your guys, 149 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: because if you lose a guy, then that's another spot 150 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: you have to worry about filling, whether it being free 151 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: agency or drafting a guy. But what I love so 152 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: much about this is I feel like Jonathan Hankins became 153 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: such a staple part of our defense, the Cowboys defense, 154 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: rather that I forgot he only played five games and 155 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: that I don't know how, but to me, it feels 156 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: like he just has been here so much longer. Even 157 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: just talking to him in the locker room. He's somebody 158 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: that just has such a presence to himself, and he 159 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: was one of the guys that I've really, I know, 160 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: personally enjoyed talking to because he just was so easy going, 161 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: easy to talk to, easy to ask questions. But very 162 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,239 Speaker 1: happy for him and also happy for the other resignings 163 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: and one new edition that has happened since we talked 164 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: last week, so let's go of that. This includes defensive 165 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: end Dante Fowler, who had six sacks last season, was 166 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: a tackle for loss machine. Keep in mind he had 167 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: seven tackles for loss and he was just a beast. 168 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: So happy to see him come back. Defensive end Tac McKinley, 169 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 1: who was a practice squad member, never actually got elevated 170 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: to that fifty three man roster, but exciting to see 171 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: what maybe he could be productive with this season if 172 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: getting the chance to be elevated. And then you have 173 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: the long snapper situation that wasn't dressed with Trent Sigg, 174 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: who was going into his sixth NFL season. He's been 175 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: with the Raiders for the last five seasons, and so 176 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: we talk about special teams all the time on this podcast. 177 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: How important it is. Christy, I really wanted you to 178 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: break down how important the long snapper position really is 179 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: and why it was so important to get that addressed 180 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: as quickly as possible after losing Jake McQuaid to our Bills. Yeah. 181 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: I remember one of the conversations we had back in 182 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: like September October was about the speed of the snap 183 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: and the operation and everything, and at one point eight 184 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff for the snap holed kick. 185 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: But I will say I'm worried about kickers, you know, 186 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: I mean who this maher has not been resigned in. 187 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: I was disappointed to see Matt Gay getaway and sign 188 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: with the Indianapolis because he would have been a great addition. 189 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: But anyway, UM, yeah, it all starts with that, because 190 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: if you don't have a good snap, it doesn't matter 191 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: how great a holder Brian Anger is or who your 192 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: kicker is. UM. So that that's a big deal to 193 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: have at least that part taken care of. UM. But 194 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: the fact that if you don't get a kicker in 195 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: here and you don't get that operation a chance to 196 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: practice throughout the off season and then early in camp, 197 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 1: that would be a concern that we will address in 198 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: August or September. But yeah, that's a big deal, UM 199 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: resigning c J. Goodwin. He's a huge dude. It's a 200 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: good oh, it really is. He's a great guy, great veteran. 201 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: He's like another do not sorry. I know as I 202 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: set her up for her punts. That's that's part of that. 203 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 1: Christie knows. Christie has just accepted it. He just said 204 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: the like feed off each other. Man like, stop feeding 205 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: into her foolishness. Christie, you're better than that. You know what. 206 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 1: I like to think that it's it's a staple at 207 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: this podcast now, I mean your puns. You call it 208 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: what you want to call it. That's so you know 209 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,599 Speaker 1: what what would you want as a Taylor swiff It 210 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: should be It should be like the high Bob drinking 211 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: game from the old Bob Heart Bob Newhart Show, where 212 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 1: every time every time she makes a pun, we get 213 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: a jes please take a shot and if it's early, 214 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: I mean coffee but okay something sorry, so great to 215 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: have him. But but but the going back to the 216 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 1: importance of special teams, the fact that Luke Gifford got 217 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: away and then of course Noah Brown was gone. So 218 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 1: two real stalwarts of your special teams. And so it's 219 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 1: going to be interesting to see which guys step up 220 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: this year and and try and fill those are vacuous holes, 221 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: especially Luke Gifford and then Noah Brown was a versatile 222 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: guy too. No, no, you're no, you're right. And you 223 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: talk about when you talked about special teams and gunners 224 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: and those return guys like it is like people don't 225 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: look at it like that, Like no, No Brown plays 226 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: special teams, y'all, Like Lou Gifford played special team. So, um, 227 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: maybe in the Sean Wright and those guys are are 228 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: the gentlemen that maybe are going to step up because 229 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 1: they because they know bones a system and everything. So 230 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: I agree, and I'm I do agree with you. Also, 231 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: is that hopefully sooner than later with the kicker, with 232 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: the operation of things, getting the long snapper in here 233 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: earlier is important. Um, but yeah, with the kicker is yeah, Okay, sorry, 234 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: I was gonna ask, no, no, there there. I don't know. 235 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's a free agent or not, 236 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: So I don't know. I think it's Robbie is Robbie Golds. 237 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 1: Robbie Gold is still available. And there was some speculation 238 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: about him going back to Chicago. Of course, he was 239 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: a Chicago many years and holds almost all the kicking 240 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: records in Chicago, and then of course his great years 241 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: in San Francisco. But it was about a week ago 242 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: he was on a podcast or maybe one of the 243 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 1: National Network interviews and uh, you know, hey, what about 244 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: going back to Chicago, And he's like, oh, yeah, I 245 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: would definitely consider that. So yeah, he's something. But he's 246 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: going to be so much money though, because Matt Gay 247 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: got twenty four million for I'm sorry for four years 248 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: twenty four million. I got it right here, four years, 249 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: twenty two and a half. He stays, ready, look at 250 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: all of us. So I'm nervous. I don't want them 251 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: to wait like they kind of did. Like I mean, granted, 252 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: like Maha definitely worked out that things were great. But 253 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: I remember the stress of Jonathan Jonathan Garabay and Lerim. Yeah, 254 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: I remember the stress of like them waiting to training 255 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: camp and then being like, hey, I'll go kick the ball. Wait, 256 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: don't hit them people over there to listen, I'm telling 257 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: you that training camp, we stand in the end zone. 258 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 1: But and so and they set up these tripods that 259 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: that have UM data collection on the end, not just 260 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: video cameras to take practice. When I'm talking about the team, 261 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: they have computer chips in their shoulder pads and so 262 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: it's GPS tracking. And so Tom Robinson, who's our director 263 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: of football Research, has these tripods set up around the 264 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: edge of the field and they collect the data. Because 265 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: he has three laptop setup and he's monitoring basically live 266 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: streaming the output and distance covered by every player, and 267 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: so they had these just offset from the goalposts and 268 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: Gara Bay was like, you know, there's one time were 269 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: we didn't get to the ball in time and it knocked. 270 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, well they didn't break the equipment, but 271 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: it's like, well that was an expensive missed kick. Well, 272 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: according to Stephen Jones, he said that this is an 273 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: itch that needs to be scratched. And you know, to 274 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: be able to have that consistency within the kicker position 275 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: is so important. And for me personally, I would like 276 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: to see Brett Maher get another chance, whether it be 277 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: to compete for a spot again. I'm personally not done 278 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: with Bret Maher, and maybe that's an unpopular opinion, but 279 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: I think he kept your season afloat, especially when Dak 280 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: Prescott was out and Cooper Rush was in maybe adjusting 281 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: a little bit, which Cooper Rush absolutely did his job, 282 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: but so did Bret Maher during that stint of time, 283 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: and he continued to do it. It's just when it 284 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: mattered the most he got the yips he got in 285 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: his head. It was a mental blockage, if you will. 286 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: So I'm not done with Bret Maher and I'm really 287 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: hoping that his time continues on. Emotions are getting smaller 288 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: and smaller. Eventually, hopefully the same conclusion can be met 289 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: for the front office. But I think they've made it 290 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: very clear that that's not the case. Speaking of which, 291 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna go ahead and take our first break. 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All right, ladies, 335 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: let's get into this because the NFL Owners Meeting took 336 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: place this week in Phoenix, Arizona, and this is when owners, coaches, 337 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: league officials all come together really discussion discussing relevant topics, 338 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: not only just for this upcoming season, just across the 339 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: board for the NFL in general. But we did hear 340 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: from Stephen and Jerry Jones. We also heard from Mike McCarthy. 341 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that a little bit later, but this 342 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: was the first time we heard from them since the 343 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: decision to release Zeke. So everybody obviously very intrigued to 344 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 1: ask Jerry specifically. They also asked Stephen eventually, but very 345 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: very intriguing conversation there. So let's get a little bit 346 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: of a rundown because it was interesting. Jerry ultimately said, 347 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: it came down to cap space. We already knew the 348 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: price of Zeke's contract was going to be an issue, 349 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: pretty much a cap casualty, if you will, and just 350 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: seeing how things have played out, right decision on their part. 351 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: But the interesting thing is that both Jerry and Stephen 352 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: didn't exactly close the door on the conversation of a 353 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: possible Zeke return. Jerry said, quote, well that was on 354 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,719 Speaker 1: the table. He was asked if they were close to 355 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: working things out with Zeke, and he said, well, that 356 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: was on the table, and you might say to some 357 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: degree that it hasn't changed, and it won't until he 358 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: signs someplace else. Keep in mind he was also asked 359 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: if they offered Zeke anything initially, and he said no, 360 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: but he doesn't want to leave fans hanging. He didn't 361 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: want to leave Zeke hanging, but that he doesn't want 362 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: to take any possibility off the table. All right, Stephen 363 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: also mentioning that the last thing that they wanted to 364 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: do with Zeke was insult him with an offer. That 365 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: you know, emotions get high when it comes to putting 366 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: a value on a player. He didn't want to They 367 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 1: didn't want to be insulting to Zeke with any kind 368 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: of renegotiated deal, But they wanted Zeke to get a 369 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: feel for what the running back market is right now, 370 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: and that they never rule anything out around here. So 371 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: let's start with this because this was an interesting top 372 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: on Twitter this week. So Christie, I'm gonna jump over 373 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: to you real quick. How likely is it that you 374 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: see possibly, you know, the Cowboys front office entertaining a 375 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: possible Zeke return, you know, say the end free agencies 376 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: coming up. He hasn't really gotten an offer. There were 377 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: some reports saying that he had his eye on a 378 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 1: couple of landing spots. How likely is it that if 379 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 1: you're in that case where Zeke is available, that they 380 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 1: snatch him back up? Okay, you say in this case, 381 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: if this were a legal case and I were doing 382 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: a rebuttal, here are my two pieces of evidence. Go ahead. 383 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: In the Cowboys pro shops, the number twenty one ze 384 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: jerseys are sixty percent off and Stefan Gilmore, your new 385 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: cornerback that you just traded for, was issued number twenty one. 386 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 1: Case closed. Oh there you go. That was quick and easy. 387 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: All right, Aisha, are you gonna play Devil's Advocate? I 388 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: mean he said he wanted who's number five? Do we 389 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: have a number fifteen? Fifteen? I don't think I don't 390 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: think so. Now either he said he would take number fifteen, 391 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: but now he which is old Ohio statement. Yeah, and 392 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: that they were saying, oh, that could be available in Philadelphia. 393 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: You know, all these kinds of things playing the numbers game. No. 394 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: I think bringing in Rojoe from the Chiefs, I feel 395 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 1: like bringing him in just kind of changes the trajectory 396 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 1: I guess of what the running back room is going 397 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 1: to look like. And with Ezekiel Elliott, I feel like 398 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: at this point the conversation the Cowboys kind of seem 399 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: like they're at a point to where I besides Jerry 400 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: and them talking like they're kind of it's been kind 401 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: of quiet, like the distract, Like I feel like it 402 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 1: could become a thing. Number fifteen by the way, Okay, 403 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: thank you fixed me? Okay, well there, you gonna make 404 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: your point in a little bit more even like because 405 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: he didn't even have a second number. But I just 406 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: I feel like the Cowboys also too, are just um 407 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 1: They're trying to it seems how do I say this, 408 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,479 Speaker 1: say that they want to um simplify things and just 409 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: kind of how things run. And with Tony Polar being 410 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: the guy them franchise tagging him, I think that really 411 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: showed where they view Tony Pollard in comparison to Zeke 412 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: and with how the league is also changing with the 413 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 1: running back position. He Zeke and other runners like him 414 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: are going to me continue to have these type of 415 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: issues with trying to fit in, to fit into what 416 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: offenses are starting to do now is like are you 417 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: are you? What do you bring to another team? And 418 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: how often do you do it? And so the Cowboys 419 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: always are talking about productivity and stuff like that. It 420 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: also saw I'm just um. I think I went through 421 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: the emotions already. I think I felt let myself feel 422 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: the emotions of Ezekiel Elliott not being here anymore, and 423 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: with you also don't want it to stall, like what's 424 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: happening within that locker room and them trying to progress 425 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 1: forward and become a different team or just how they 426 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 1: do things differently as an offense may be moving forward. Also, Yeah, 427 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: and just when I was offering those couple of examples 428 00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: and rebuttal, it's not because I don't want Zeke. I 429 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: think it could still be a valuable part. But here's 430 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 1: we're talking from a logical Yeah, and here's from a 431 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: logical standpoint. If he's not a featured runner. And I 432 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: still say, you mentioned Ronald Jones, Rojoe, you still need 433 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: that jab, right, so that Pollard can be the haymaker. 434 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: But when you don't have the featured runner, that person 435 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: needs to contribute and other things. Generally, your backup running 436 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: backs contribute on special teams. And Zeke's not a special 437 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: teams player. That's great, that's great, that's important. That's important 438 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: to mention. Yeah, and you know, Stephen was asked about, Hey, 439 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: how how do you uphold this system that was really 440 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 1: created and worked essentially with the one two punch with 441 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: Zeke and Tony without Zeke, And he said, well, in 442 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 1: a perfect world, I want a big back who's going 443 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: to really take that role to be the jab exactly. So, um, yeah, 444 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: I I don't see it happening per se, I think 445 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 1: the door is closed on that, and it's it's a 446 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: sad chapter that Cowboys fans are absolutely allowed to feel 447 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: sad about. But you have to progress and you have 448 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: to continue to move forward. So I think at that point, 449 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: when you're talking about a timeline standpoint, things are going 450 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: to already starting to or they're already starting to be 451 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: established without Zeke in the locker room, I think bringing 452 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: him back, which is kind of mix things up, but 453 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: not because Zeke would act anyway or I'm not implying 454 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: anything like that, but once you have Assistem in place, 455 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 1: that's kind of what it is and there's no need 456 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: to look back. But they were also both asked about 457 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 1: Steven Jones and Jerry Jones. Of course, they were asked 458 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 1: about being more aggressive this offseason and if there was 459 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: a different approach taken. Stephen Jones said, it's season and opportunity. 460 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 1: Things are just falling into place, and that when these 461 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 1: kind of trades work, it has to work from a 462 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: business standpoint in terms of if they fit with the 463 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 1: team and in terms of compensation, especially for the player. 464 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: But he made shore to mention despite what people think, 465 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: they always entertain the talk of traits. Things just have 466 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: to work out, and they have this free agency, so 467 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 1: you know, I think these big splashes you're seeing aren't 468 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: necessarily something new. But it was bless you, It's very solidified. 469 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: Bless you times too. It was very solidified when Stephen said, 470 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: you know, things just have to work out. I think 471 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 1: this is a Cowboys team that has been so close 472 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: the past two years to feeling what it is to 473 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 1: get past that twenty five year hurdle. They're this close, 474 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: and so I don't think necessarily it's the front office 475 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: being more aggressive, but it's more intriguing to come to 476 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys who has been who have been over 477 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: twelve wins, if not twelve wins two seasons in a row, 478 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 1: the first time since the nineties. And you have a 479 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 1: coach like Mike McCarthy, you have a defensive coordinator like 480 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 1: Dan Quinn, and then you have Brian Schottenheimer coming in here, 481 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: who has that history with Mike McCarthy, with that West 482 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: Coast offense, and so it's intriguing, I think, more so 483 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: now than ever, for players to want to come to Dallas. 484 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think it has anything to do with 485 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: something more that the front office is doing. But it's 486 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: it's been a great and successful offseason. I think Jonathan 487 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: Hankins was your last piece of the puzzle that you said, 488 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: all right, anything after this, and you need a kicker obviously, 489 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 1: but anything after this is going to be an addition 490 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 1: at this point. And it's been very good. Yeah, because 491 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: because by bringing back Donovan Wilson, Vanderish, adding Gilmore and 492 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks, you don't have to reach now in the draft, 493 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 1: Right's not solely depending on the draft, exactly, exactly. Yeah. 494 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: And so another thing, and I'm going to open this 495 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: one up for discussion because it's a big topic and 496 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 1: it's still one of those shaky ground kind of situations 497 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: with the Cowboys right now, is the O line and 498 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 1: what that's going to look like going forward. So Steven's 499 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: answer to that was, well, it's the best five guys 500 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: that you got. Jerry said, as of right now, he 501 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: sees Terrence Steele, who keep in minds recovering from injury. 502 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 1: He did post a workout video looked great, but he 503 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: said he sees Terrence Steele as a swing tackle, providing 504 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: depth for Tyron and Tyler Smith. But There was some 505 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: debate over this because just the order of your O 506 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: line right now, what it's going to look like health standpoint. 507 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna open this up, ladies. What is your 508 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: ideal O line? Who is where? What looks like? What? 509 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: And where? Where did they go from here? Where do 510 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 1: they draft? Where do they develop? Where do they grab 511 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 1: someone in free agency if they can. I Usha, I'm 512 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: gonna go to you for this one, our draft queen 513 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 1: over here. I just think Terrence Steel ain't no swaying daggle. 514 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's your starting right tackle. Yeah, if he's 515 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: if he's healthy, he's he's if he's healthy. Um, listen, man, 516 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: There's a lot of folks to think Tyler Smith would 517 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: be a fantastic guard. I mean sure, Like I got 518 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: to see him play guard a couple of times. I 519 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: thought he was successful there. But what he can what 520 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: he did at tackle with just being inserted the way 521 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: he was and just kind of how he had to. 522 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: He went up against some of the best pass rushers 523 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: in the game to start the season, and just I'm 524 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: just I like that Tyler can take it on the chin. 525 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 1: He's such a he's like, he's he's versatile, in that way. 526 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: He's a hard worker to where he's not gonna complain, 527 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: He's gonna go to different places. I'm just like, just 528 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: sit him somewhere and leave him there, please. So for me, 529 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: I with and also with Tyring, like we cannot at 530 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: this point, like we cannot just think that he's going 531 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 1: to be healthy the whole season. Like the host, it's 532 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: just kind of a rushur like Cowboys fans banged on 533 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: the table for years. It feels like actually for a 534 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: tiring replacement, and you have one, and then it's like moving, 535 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: move them around, put him somewhere else, like and so 536 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: to me, if you are going to have the starting five, 537 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: I think people would say it's Tyring not being If 538 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: Tyring is healthy, then yes him at left tackle. Tyler. 539 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: I don't want Tyler left guard, but if if that's 540 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: what you needed to do, then Tyler left guard. If 541 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: you haven't replaced him having replaced economic govern because that's 542 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: when we didn't talk about it's a bigger deal. It's 543 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: a bigger deal than what people think. And they brought 544 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: in Chuma Edoga and so, and he's a guard. So 545 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna back up there or 546 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,479 Speaker 1: if they are gonna see him compete and see if 547 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: he is, you know, liable to be a starting guard 548 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: there or whatever. So yeah, for me, um, there's been 549 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: a lot of talk about the draft and are they 550 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: gonna go guard and are they gonna There are some 551 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: guards in this this draft that could come in and 552 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: be plug and play guys, But there's far more tackles 553 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: in this draft that can come in and be plug 554 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: and play guys. So I guess it just depends on 555 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: what they what they decide. You got a new offensive 556 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: line coach and Mike Salari. This might have something to 557 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: do with his style of offensive line play and what 558 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: they've done. But I can tell you one thing. I 559 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: don't know a whole bunch, but I know Terren Steele 560 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: should be your starting right tackle. And to your point 561 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,959 Speaker 1: too about Schuma, We're going to jump into Mike McCarthy 562 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: in our next segment, but he did mention that he 563 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: does see Chuma as a guard and a tackle, but 564 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: he would probably start him if at left guard, based 565 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: on the film he has in the capability. He does 566 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: see him as a starter, but things haven't started up 567 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: yet for Mike McCarthy to be able to confirm that, 568 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: and back to your point about Tyron Smith not staying healthy. 569 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: The last time he played a full season was back 570 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen. Y'all, that is a large time gap 571 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: to where he's played every single game in the regular season, 572 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: because after that twenty sixteen he played thirteen games, twenty 573 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: seventeen thirteen games all the way until twenty eighteen he 574 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: played or excuse me, twenty nineteen he played thirteen games, 575 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: twenty twenty he played two games, twenty twenty one he 576 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: played eleven, and then last season he played four. So 577 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,239 Speaker 1: and that's not including a playoff runs either, that's just 578 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: your regular season stats. But Christy, what is what is 579 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: your take on this O line debate and kind of 580 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: where guys need to be shuffled. Where do you think 581 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: Tyler Smith specifically being your young guy who is now 582 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: no longer a rookie, do you get him solidified in 583 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: a spot so he can really rest there for his career. 584 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: What do you see them doing with Tyler Smith specifically 585 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: because he showed that versatility. Yeah, I'm with you both 586 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: and Ayisha's point of put him in a spot in 587 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: park him in an ideal world, if we played in 588 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: Utopia instead of the NFL. That's absolutely what you would do, 589 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: but m kind of. I won't say embarrassment of riches 590 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: because that will jinx it. But we're trying, oh man, 591 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: should it be Tyron Smith or Tyler Smith? And I mean, 592 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: how many teams have that problem? You know? So you 593 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: have to to, you know, take a macro view and say, 594 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: this is a good situation at tackle. But here's the thing. 595 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: They're all going to end up playing because you're not 596 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: going to get through a seventeen game season. I know 597 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: we're going to talk a little more in the next session, 598 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,479 Speaker 1: next section about all these possible Thursday night football games 599 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: and drive me crazy. But here's the thing. Everyone's going 600 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: to get a chance. If I had to make a prediction, 601 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: my prediction would be that Tyler Smith is at guard 602 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: and Tyrone is at left tackle to start the season. 603 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: And that's assuming that Terrence Steele is able to play 604 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: at right tackle to start the season. So but I 605 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: think I usually made a great point about Tyler Smith's diligence, 606 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: the fact that he was able to do that as 607 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: a rookie last year, and we forget that Tyrone his 608 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: injury came at the end towards the end of camp 609 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: and Tyler had taken his reps at left guard and 610 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: then steps in for the regular season at left tackle. 611 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: How did he not get more consideration for Rookie of 612 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: the Year. Now, it's because he plays offensive line and not, 613 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: you know, one of the so called skill positions. But 614 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: if I had to make a prediction, I would say 615 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: that if Tyron is is hell, I wouldn't be surprised 616 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: that he's in there, because who's who's your better left guard? 617 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: Tyler Smith or Edoma Tyler? Okay, yeah, there you go. 618 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: They're gonna or they're gonna battle it out. They could, 619 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: but which would be what? That would make me mad? 620 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: Though high key, It would make me mad if they 621 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: made Tyler compete for a left guard spot. He earned it, 622 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: he's earned. It would make me mad if you're moving 623 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: him back there because you want Tyrant to play left tackle, 624 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: don't make me. But wait a minute, don't we don't 625 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: we want our five best players out Yeah you do. 626 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: You do want the five best players out there. But 627 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: there were several instances last year, like personally I didn't 628 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: think mcgovernor was a better guard, would have been a 629 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: better guard than Tyler was last year. Maybe with the 630 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: communication and Tyler being young or whatever, but as a player, 631 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: as a as a with with the physicality and stuff 632 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: that that Tyler brought to the guard position, I thought 633 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: that he and my governor to do different things and 634 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: then but he was the starter. Yeah, so to me, like, 635 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: I just I think it would be unfair to him. 636 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 1: I understand competition is healthy, but I think you're sending 637 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,800 Speaker 1: the wrong message if you move him back to guard, 638 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: and then you not only that, you'd be like, go 639 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 1: compete for it too, Like what the heck? Like, I'm 640 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: no offense, Like, this is a first round draft pick 641 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,919 Speaker 1: and you've asked a lot of him. So I don't 642 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 1: think I'll get a little frustrated personally. Yeah. Sure. And 643 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: not only that, but back to Christie's point of when 644 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: Tyron got injured right at trading camp. It was at 645 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: the Star. We've talked about that here and how he 646 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 1: could hear kind of a snap when it happened and 647 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 1: he walked off. I do not know how he did that. 648 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,879 Speaker 1: But the day before you cannot make this up. Mike 649 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: McCarthy had come out and said about Tyler Smith. Where 650 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: things stand right now, he probably wouldn't be a starter 651 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: in that starting position because he just needs a lot 652 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 1: of work done and he needs a lot more you know, 653 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 1: practice time. And then look at the season he had, 654 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: I mean straight out of a storybook there. But real quick, 655 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: I did want to mention before we end this segment 656 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: moving on to the next one, is both Jerry and 657 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: Stephen were asked about Brandon Cooks in the addition of 658 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: that veteran wide receiver role that everybody has been waiting for, 659 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: that splash in your wide receiver corps there, and Jerry 660 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,720 Speaker 1: was specifically asked if Cooks essentially will fill that void 661 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 1: of Amari Cooper. I feel like the ghost of the 662 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: Cowboys past is Amari Cooper in his name just keeps 663 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 1: getting brought up. But Jerry said, what you want Cooks 664 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: to do is what Amri did for the overall passing game, 665 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 1: not only in the production which you counted on with Amar, 666 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,919 Speaker 1: but also the room he has opened up for other 667 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: receivers and those two things. Because Cook's speed and because 668 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,959 Speaker 1: of his route ability, he does that for us. So 669 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: it looks like Jerry's very high on Brandon Cooks. Keep 670 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,280 Speaker 1: in mind, the Cowboys did have their eyes on them 671 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,359 Speaker 1: on him rather last season because of wide receivers coach 672 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,240 Speaker 1: Robert Prince, who worked with Cook back in twenty twenty 673 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: one as his wide receiver coach in Houston. So overall, 674 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 1: it seems like things are on the up and up 675 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: for the Cowboys offense. But coming up after the break, 676 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 1: we're going to hear from head coach Mike McCarthy what 677 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,399 Speaker 1: he had to say about Cooks and a lot more 678 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: as well. Christy alluded to Thursday Night football. Is that 679 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: going to be another ghost of the NFL past. 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Check out the locker rooms, playing fields, 714 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: super Bowl memorabilia, and even more. Get your tickets today 715 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,479 Speaker 1: at Dallas Cowboys dot com slash tours. All right, real quick, 716 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 1: let's do a rundown of what Mike McCarthy had to 717 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 1: say at the NFL Owners Meeting. This was his first 718 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 1: appearance at an NFL Owners meeting since twenty eighteen, so 719 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,919 Speaker 1: a little bit of an interesting tidbit that he mentioned there. 720 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: Let's just run down this because I really want to 721 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: get into this Thursday night football conversation with y'all. So 722 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 1: as far as Brandon Cooks, he said, this is something 723 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 1: we had mentioned on this podcast a couple weeks ago 724 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: when the Brandon Cooks signing did happen, that it's beneficial 725 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 1: that Brandon Cooks has jumped from scheme to scheme because 726 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: it broadens your football education. So confirmed girls talk, Boys talk, 727 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 1: We do, in fact know what we're talking about here. 728 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 1: They going down this lad, I just made a little 729 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: list of bullet points here. They want to be better 730 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 1: in protecting Dak Prescott. That is a goal that Mike 731 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 1: McCarthy mentioned that he wants better protection for Dak. He 732 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: also wants an above a seventy percent completion percentage for 733 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: this upcoming season. He said that they were about sixty 734 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 1: eight percent last season, so he wants that to be 735 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 1: above seventy. As for a Zeke replacement and how this 736 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 1: is going to operate without Zeke, he said that the 737 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 1: way they're breaking it down is they're looking where touches 738 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 1: of the ball go. So whether that be to receivers, 739 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 1: to tight ends, to a new back, to Tony Pollard, whoever, 740 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 1: it's just going to come down to breaking down where 741 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 1: those touches go, not necessarily finding a guy to take 742 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 1: on that load that Zeke was taking on. So I 743 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 1: thought that was interesting. He also talked about Chuma Adoga, 744 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 1: like we had said earlier, and how he sees him 745 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 1: as a guard and a tackle, but probably looking get 746 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 1: more of a left guard situation for him there. Okay, 747 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: so let's go into Thursday Night Football. That conversation right 748 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 1: now that happened at the NFL Owners meeting. Christy, I'm 749 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: gonna let you steer the bus on this one. What 750 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 1: exactly is the update? Okay? So here's the issue. Amazon 751 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,799 Speaker 1: pays all this money to the NFL for Thursday night 752 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,720 Speaker 1: games to be streamed, and when the schedule is set, man, 753 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 1: what a great set of games that they have for 754 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 1: Thursday Night football, except real life happens and you have 755 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: like the defending champion Rams with you know who are 756 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 1: bad this year because of injuries, there ended up being 757 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 1: some dog games on Thursday Night. Okay. So under consideration 758 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 1: at the owners meeting was flex scheduling towards the end 759 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 1: of the season for Thursday Night football, which means that 760 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 1: all of us who have bought tickets and are bringing 761 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,760 Speaker 1: our family to a game. Let's say it's in December 762 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 1: and it's a Christmas present or whatever, your game could 763 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 1: be flex to Thursday night, okay, and there would be 764 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 1: a fifteen day notice. So basically you get just over 765 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 1: two weeks to know the coaches, the facilities, the ticket buyers, 766 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,360 Speaker 1: everything that you could be moved not just from a 767 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon at noon or three twenty five to a 768 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,439 Speaker 1: Sunday night game, but moved to a different calendar day. 769 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 1: So what it's happened is the owners have basically put 770 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 1: it off. They didn't vote on it this week, you know, 771 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 1: making a final decision on flex scheduling at the owner's 772 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 1: meetings in Phoenix this week. They've tabled it and can 773 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 1: pick it up at another time. But one thing they 774 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 1: did approve was having multiple Thursday night games for a team. Okay, 775 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 1: so right now. In the past you could have like 776 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,800 Speaker 1: one Thursday night game, and they basically doubled that. So 777 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 1: I usually I think that you and I are on 778 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 1: the same page here, safe to say that we are 779 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 1: not fans of Thursday night football. No, I'm not excited 780 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 1: about it. I think we're at a point to where 781 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 1: players have willfully I mean you saw on social media 782 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 1: actually with the announcement that they are at a point 783 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:26,319 Speaker 1: to where they've expressed like, hey, this is difficult, this 784 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,839 Speaker 1: is hard on our bodies, this is a hard turnaround, 785 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 1: and we've gotten more than enough evidence to see that. Personally, 786 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 1: I mean I can say about me and Justice, our 787 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 1: first time actually being in a locker room and kind 788 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 1: of being around a team and seeing like what they 789 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 1: go through on a weekly basis to prepare for a game. 790 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 1: And it's not just practice, it's treatments, it's rehab, it's 791 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 1: it's a mental also a mental and emotional thing. Told 792 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 1: that this game takes on you and to know the 793 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,239 Speaker 1: guys are gonna have to get up turn around. There's 794 00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 1: been countless injuries on Thursday Night football. I am very 795 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 1: frustrated at this point with um, with the possibility that 796 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 1: that could happen, and even more frustrated with how many 797 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 1: times the Cowboys do play in prime time that this 798 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: is very much so a possible possibility for them to 799 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 1: be one of the teams that do get flex or 800 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,399 Speaker 1: has to get moved to a Thursday night games. When 801 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 1: you're sake, when you're talking about the most valuable sports 802 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 1: franchise in all of sports, naturally, the Cowboys drive views. 803 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's part of being the Dallas Cowboys. 804 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 1: Eyes are on you. So and here's the thing, Jesse, 805 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: your Thursday Thanksgiving Day game doesn't really count towards that all. 806 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 1: Right Now, the last couple of years, the Cowboys have 807 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 1: not had the Thursday to Thursday back to back good 808 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,719 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving and then the following Thursday. We did that for 809 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,720 Speaker 1: several years hadn't done it for a couple But here's 810 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 1: the thing, and I'm going to give credit to Brooke 811 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 1: Prior of ESPN who points this out, and I'm going 812 00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 1: to read directly from her note here to give her credit. 813 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 1: While NFL owners opt to not to vote on a 814 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 1: rule that allows games to be flexed into a Thursday 815 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 1: night kickoff, they agreed this week to modify the existing 816 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 1: rule and allow teams to play a maximum of two 817 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:16,280 Speaker 1: short week games. But here's here's the addition that means 818 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: that while some teams could play two Thursday night games, 819 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,919 Speaker 1: others would not have any. Now, wait a minute, you've 820 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,440 Speaker 1: got some teams that are having to play two short weeks. 821 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,280 Speaker 1: And it's not just the physical part that Ayesha talks about. 822 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 1: The NFL will say that that injuries. You know that 823 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 1: they have data that shows that there aren't necessarily more 824 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 1: injuries on a Thursday game than a Sunday game. Well, 825 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,320 Speaker 1: first of all, if you're hurt, it's a short week. 826 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 1: A lot of those guys don't even get on the 827 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,480 Speaker 1: field for a Thursday, so that wouldn't count necessarily towards 828 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 1: that data. But it's a short prep week, travel, it's 829 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 1: unfair to them everybody road team. It's not high quality football. Yeah, 830 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 1: you're not putting the bet A product out there. But 831 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 1: here's the thing. Back to back Thursday night games, such 832 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 1: as a Thanksgiving Day game followed by a Thursday night 833 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,760 Speaker 1: game the next week would only count as one short 834 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,800 Speaker 1: week game, So some teams could end up playing three 835 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:21,240 Speaker 1: Thursday games in a season. And to happen to your point, 836 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 1: just with the visibility of the Cowboys, yeah, of course 837 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,319 Speaker 1: Amazon would want to as many Cowboy games as they 838 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 1: could get. And you know, I think when you look 839 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 1: at Thursdays and specifically the wear and tear it has 840 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 1: on the team that is traveling, it doesn't seem like 841 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 1: a big deal to jump from time zone to time zone, 842 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,879 Speaker 1: but when you're taking guys to an East Coast time 843 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 1: zone or a West Coast time zone, that messes with 844 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,360 Speaker 1: your internal clock. I mean, anybody, whether you're playing football 845 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 1: or not, that is a very hard adjustment to make 846 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 1: on a short week where you didn't get as much 847 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 1: practice as you're used to, you didn't get the mental 848 00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 1: reset that you're used to getting between games, and those things. 849 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,279 Speaker 1: When you if you could see it back to back 850 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:07,759 Speaker 1: like that, that's not healthy. And I really hope this 851 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,839 Speaker 1: is something that they decide to turn around because just 852 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:15,279 Speaker 1: for the safety of everybody, and you know, the player's health, 853 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,799 Speaker 1: and we always talk about their career post football, it's 854 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 1: so important to prioritize things like that. And this is 855 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,840 Speaker 1: why I hope that the NFLPA really stands up on 856 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 1: this one. They need to really stand up. But here's 857 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 1: the thing. It's all it all comes down to money, 858 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 1: and so when you can get more money the league, 859 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 1: then the players get more too because they get a 860 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,840 Speaker 1: portion of that pie. So it's going to have to 861 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,440 Speaker 1: be up to the players to say, hey, we are 862 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 1: prioritizing this over the money, and real quick too, we 863 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 1: are basically out of time. But I did want to 864 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,280 Speaker 1: get possible rule changes for special teams in the latest 865 00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,360 Speaker 1: on the sale of the Commanders. If you want to 866 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,400 Speaker 1: run down that those two real quick, Yeah, just some 867 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 1: thoughts that put the fair catching on touchbacks. The ball 868 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 1: would be at the twenty five yard line instead of 869 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 1: the twenty yard line, and so the thought is that 870 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,360 Speaker 1: there would be more fair catches and it would reduce 871 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 1: the number of injuries because there would be fewer returns. 872 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 1: So Statistically, the play that has the most injuries is 873 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:24,040 Speaker 1: punt returns. So kicking game is dangerous, and so are 874 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,279 Speaker 1: there some things that they can do to make it 875 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 1: less dangerous. And the other thing is it would also 876 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 1: encourage teams on an offense, like you're at midfield or 877 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,480 Speaker 1: just pass, should we go for it on fourth down? Well, 878 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 1: if you punt and it's fair caught or goes in 879 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,400 Speaker 1: the end zone, if the ball is going to be 880 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,760 Speaker 1: at the twenty five yard line instead of the twenty, 881 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,040 Speaker 1: it would incentivize you to go for it on fourth down, 882 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,560 Speaker 1: like say you're fourth and three at the forty five 883 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:55,200 Speaker 1: yard line or fourth and six. So that's something there too. 884 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:59,719 Speaker 1: And then the latest on the sale of the Washington Commanders, Well, 885 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,799 Speaker 1: it looks like so Dan Snyder, who swore wouldn't sell 886 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,400 Speaker 1: to Jeff Bezos, it's possible that Bezos is back in 887 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,760 Speaker 1: the picture there. And it sounds like if Dan Snyder 888 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,120 Speaker 1: really wants this sounds like a six billion dollars, then 889 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:18,280 Speaker 1: he's going to have to get over that hostility with Bezos. Interesting, Well, 890 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,160 Speaker 1: thank you so much, Christie. That was great, and say, 891 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,160 Speaker 1: um there and so we have come to the end 892 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,840 Speaker 1: of our Thursday edition of Girls Talk, Boys Talk. We 893 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,120 Speaker 1: appreciate you all so so much for tuning in every 894 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,640 Speaker 1: week for Christie Scales, Asia Morrison. I'm Jessnavars. Have a 895 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,360 Speaker 1: great rest of your week. Go make the whole place shimmer. 896 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,960 Speaker 1: Yes there's a Taylor Swift reference. Be safe and we 897 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 1: will see you next week. This has been a production 898 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:46,000 Speaker 1: of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.