WEBVTT - The Browns Come to Town | The Beatdown Podcast | Washington Commanders | NFL 0:00:09.400 --> 0:00:12.719 What's going on? What's happened? Everybody? This is the Beatdown Podcast. 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:14.840 I am your host, Senior Wriyah for the Washington Commanders, 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:18.520 Zach Shelby and the vibes out here are immaculate in 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:21.279 ways that really haven't been in about a decade. As 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:25.840 the Commanders thoroughly dismantled the Arizona Cardinals forty two to fourteen, 0:00:26.239 --> 0:00:27.720 going to three to one for the first time in 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:28.800 twenty eleven. 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:31.800 How about that. And after doing three. 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:33.919 Of four road games to start the season, they are 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:37.159 coming back to Northwest Stadium to take on the Cleveland 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:40.000 Browns who are one in three, not necessarily the record 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:42.120 that they would want, but this is still a team 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:44.720 that's a little bit feistier than maybe some would think. 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:47.199 They've got a really strong defense to Shohn Watson is 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:50.720 still maybe not as maybe not now corback he was, 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:52.520 but still has some flashes of it here and there. 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:55.240 So the Commanders have a chance to go four and 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:57.480 one for the first time in two thousand and eight, 0:00:57.600 --> 0:01:00.440 which would just be amazing for this French guys, for 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:03.680 this team as they get into the first year of 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:06.600 Dan Clinton's regime, and how do they gonna be able 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:08.200 to do that. Well, that's what we're gonna be talking 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:11.319 about today. And with me we have Mitch Tisler of 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:14.399 Monumental Sports and the Beltwegh Football Pot and Bran Winstein 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:16.160 and the voice of the Commanders and hosts of the 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:17.720 Bran Wonstein Show Boys. 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:18.399 How we do It Today? 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:19.040 Immaculate. 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:23.240 Yeah, Mitch, this is a dream come true. I don't 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:25.040 think I've ever done a show with you. I am 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:26.280 very excited about this. 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:28.560 I am very excited about this too. I can't wait 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:30.120 at the beat you a little bit, all right? 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:33.600 They all right, awesome, So they mentioned the debate this, 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:36.000 We're gonna be really quick about it because guys, you 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:37.680 know how it goes now. I mean, these guys are 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:40.400 gonna be debating questions, They're gonna they're gonna be given points, 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:42.720 and uh, there is gonna be a winner. Because it's 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:44.839 my podcast. I can decide who wins the who wins 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:47.520 and who loses. But at the same time, you know, 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:49.760 what you should be more focused on is what these 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:53.120 guys takes are rather than who wins and who loses. 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:54.680 Here because he's got some of the best of what 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:57.560 they do. Uh. And without further ado, let's go and 0:01:57.560 --> 0:02:01.040 get started here starting with the Browns offense. And as 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:05.639 I mentioned earlier, Deshaun Watson probably not the elite MVP 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:08.079 caliber quarterback that he was with the Houston Texans, but 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:11.200 you do still see flashes of the player that he 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:14.320 once was as he's gone through the first couple of 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:18.520 years in his tenure with the Browns. So, Bram, I 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:21.440 will start with you, because the quarterback is still the 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:23.480 most important position for this defensive stop. 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:25.000 What's the best approach to. 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:28.800 Limiting him as they come to him to the Commander Stadium. 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:33.119 So I think this is really interesting because they don't 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:36.680 know whether this is by design, or it's due to injuries, 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:39.799 or they don't trust Watson to make plays down the field. 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:41.760 I mean, I think only they can really answer this. 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:46.560 But the vast majority of their offense is underneath. And 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:50.360 you'll see this in metrics, like he's like thirty first 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:52.400 in the league in pass yards per attempt, but they're 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:55.280 all dump offs to running backs or tight ends underneath. 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:58.800 There's very little plays that are thrown down the field. Obviously, 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:00.440 he can run and he can move, but he's not 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:03.640 apt to scramble all that much. He does to extend 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:07.399 plays you know, he's been held under two hundred yards 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:09.920 passing in every single one of these games. I think, 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:13.440 you know, like this team is concerned about giving up 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:17.040 deep passes for good reason, right, like lack of a 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:19.959 consistent pass rush, which maybe has taken a turn over 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:23.560 the last week, which hopefully happened, and you know overall 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:27.960 cornerback play. Are they concerned with the matchups? And you know, 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:31.560 the Browns do have legitimate, very good and potentially deep 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:35.240 threat wide receivers on this team, but they don't profile it. 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:38.000 So I want to see how Joe and Dan Quinn 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:40.640 play this, Like are they going to be willing to 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:43.760 put more people up closer to the line in this game? 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:46.640 Daring Cleveland to try to do something that they're not 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:50.040 doing right now at the risk of can you cover 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:52.640 Amari Cooper and Jerry Judy down the field because the 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:55.600 Browns aren't doing it. So that's the cat and mouse 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:58.480 for me here. But from what I see from Cleveland, 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:04.400 everything's underneath. So I think Washington on some level needs 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:06.880 to find out if they are willing to take shots 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:07.560 down the field. 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:10.760 Yeah, you know, you bring up a good point, because 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:13.600 the Brands do have some some really solid receivers. I 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:16.440 would say probably one of the better groups that they've 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:19.800 faced so far this year. And Mitch, you know, brand 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:22.120 brought up, you know, bring the secondary close to the 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:24.200 line of screens, playing a little bit of press and 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:26.960 and this seems to be where Washington has gotten beaten 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:29.240 a lot over the last first, you know, first couple 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:32.000 of weeks of the season and honestly most of last year. 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:35.039 So you know, I'll kind of pit it a little 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:37.680 bit and kind of ask you this so about contained 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:40.080 Sean Watson, like, do you feel comfortable enough with the 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:42.480 secondary that they are able to go up against Jerry 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:44.560 Judy and Amari Cooper and some of these other receivers 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:44.919 that they have. 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:47.400 I mean, I think you look at this Brown's offense 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:48.960 and it has a lot of big names on it. 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:50.040 You know, we keep talking. 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:52.520 We've mentioned the receivers, the you know, you know about 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:55.080 the quarterback. But I think it's like a lot of 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:57.360 a lot of teams that we've seen here in Washington 0:04:57.480 --> 0:04:59.440 going back however many years, some big names, but not 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:02.640 big production. And I think it starts with what Bram 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:04.359 was talking about, the fact that they are scared to 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:07.880 go down the field Deshaun Watson's top five in the 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:10.440 league and dropbacks and bottom five in the league in 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:14.520 yards in yards per game, and it shows you kind 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:16.400 of what they're trying to do on offense. They're trying 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:19.080 to think and dunk it and run the ball a bunch. 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:21.360 And even though they are trying to run the ball 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:23.560 a bunch, they aren't even that successful at it because 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:26.480 they're bottom half of the league in running the ball, 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:29.080 and it starts up front for them. They have a 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:32.160 couple pretty key injuries. They haven't played a whole lot 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:35.040 this year with Jedrick Willis. Jack Conklin looks like he's 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:37.160 going to be out Wyatt Teller as well as a 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:40.200 All Pro guard for them, and they've gotten Deshaun Watson 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:42.599 hit a lot. He's been hit I think it was 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:45.200 seventeen times in two of the first four games, including 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:48.040 an eight sac performance in Week one. I think you're 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:50.680 gonna have an opportunity to put pressure on him, and 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:53.040 it's gonna be incumbent on the secondary to be able 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:56.080 to cover. We know that Joe Witt likes to play 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:58.599 single high d he likes to play press coverage on 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:01.160 the outside, and there have been you know some receivers 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:03.000 that have beat them with it. But if this d 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:06.400 line and this you know, complimentary pass rush can get 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:09.040 to Deshaun Watson and pours them off his spot, he's 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:11.080 proven that he can't get the ball. He hasn't been 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:13.479 able to get the ball downfield, particularly when he breaks 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:15.640 the pocket, and he's had, you know, amongst the lowest 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:18.480 time in the in the league drop back to past year. 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:21.039 So it's these guys shouldn't have to run around in 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:24.040 the secondary for five ten seconds like we've seen you know, 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:26.680 other years. Other teams have to have to try and do. 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:28.320 And so I do think they're going to be able 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:30.679 to get up there and use Benjamin Saint Jus's size 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:32.599 and Jim Met the line of scrimmage a little bit. 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:35.400 Yeah, I mean, yeah, that is a good point. 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:38.080 And you know, I think Watson is really at his 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:40.200 most dangerous las in the games that I've seen, you know, 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:42.279 over you know, when I watched it yesterday, is it 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:44.920 seems like he is at his most deadly whenever he's 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:46.680 outside of the pocket, whenever he's able. 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:47.520 To extend plays. 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:50.520 And you know, I know that the commanders only allowed 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:53.320 Cali murder for one rush for three yards. But this 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:56.240 is mobile quarterbacks are still I would say it's still 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:59.039 a bit of a challenge for this defense. So so 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:02.440 bram D and as good as they were able to 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:04.320 play against Calmber, do you think that's a little bit 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:06.320 of a formula for how this the Stevens the line 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:08.719 can contain Watson going into week five. 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:13.360 Last week was by far and not close, their best 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:17.320 collective defensive performance, and I mean by a mile, like 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:20.920 by a mile. And I will say this, there were 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:25.960 multiple occasions where they had Murray confused the fact that 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:27.560 he took a sack on the fourth and one on 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:29.240 to tell you everything, you kind of really need to 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:32.360 know about where he was in reading what Washington was 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:34.760 doing to them. So I do hope that there's a carryover. 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:38.200 There was a deficiency on the right side of their line. 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:40.520 Calvin Beacham played, but he was coming off the hamstring. 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:44.040 They didn't really have backups, and Doriance Armstrong had his 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:47.080 best game, you know, as a commander. Off of this. 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:50.280 To Mitch's point, this is a this is a really 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:52.920 great offensive line when they have their players together. They 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:55.960 don't they're missing two or three of their starters. They're 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:59.720 playing a ton of backups I think they're doing. Go 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:01.560 watch Chelsea. You want to go watch something interesting on 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:05.000 the film, Go watch on the outside. Their receivers they 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:07.560 barely release when they're running the ball, like I think 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:11.120 that they just they have kind of come into this 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:15.520 position of they are what they are based on the injuries, 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:19.160 and I think maybe what the coaches think the capabilities 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:23.000 of this offense are so they're to me in lies 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:26.480 a couple of things. One, are they a competent group? Right? 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:29.560 And if they're not, if Washington get on top of them, 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:31.240 maybe you can get a couple of sacks. The most 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:35.000 sacked quarterback in the NFL. I think there's an opportunity 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:38.040 here to limit them. They're having a hard time scoring points. 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:41.080 It's partially by design. They're trying to go small chunks 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:45.560 at a time. So if I'm Washington, you know, I 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:47.640 think I'm loading up the box a little bit here 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:49.480 and I'm daring them to throw the ball a little 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:52.360 bit and see if maybe we can get even bigger 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:56.600 mistakes than what you're getting now, which is they're not 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:59.400 turning the ball over a time, they're just not scoring 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:02.000 and they're not moving the ball in chunks. Can we 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:04.680 get a couple turnovers here, because that seems overdue and 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:06.440 that seems to be kind of heading in that direction. 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:08.760 If that's what's happening here, then I think it gives 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:10.960 your offense a better shot here because this is and 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:12.880 I know we haven't gotten another side of the ball yet, 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:16.120 this is gonna be arguably the best defense they have 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:21.160 faced up to this point in the season. Maybe maybe Tampa's, 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:24.000 but like this, in my opinion, this is, across the board, 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:26.760 probably the best defense they have faced. And therefore I 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:28.800 think they're gonna need a couple more breaks than what 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:30.400 they've gotten in previous weeks. 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:32.840 And before we get to this side of the ball, 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:36.000 and you're right about that, Mitche, Like, you know, do 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:37.720 you think, as Brams said, that they're going to try 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:39.199 to load the box a little bit and try to 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:41.360 put some more pressure on Watson to make some of 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:42.640 these more difficult decisions. 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:46.880 I think they need to, but it's not necessarily related 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:50.360 to Watson's quick decision making. It's related to stopping this 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:52.880 run game. If you can make this Browns team one dimensional, 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:56.040 especially if the offense is able to continue scoring points, 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:58.320 and you know that Deshaun's going to be dropping back, 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:01.000 then you're gonna be able to to really get after him. 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:04.200 But the middle of this defensive line has struggled against 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:06.080 the run. In the middle of this defense across the 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:08.800 hole has struggled against the run. And if you allow 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:11.760 this Browns team to get comfortable and start moving the 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:14.120 ball easily on the ground, then things are going to 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:16.080 open up for Deshaun because you're gonna have to start, 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:18.520 you know, packing it in on that side. And so 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:20.640 I expect that we're going to see a more concerted 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:23.560 effort in the middle of that defense. Like Bram said, 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:25.640 last week was the best defensive performance we've seen in 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:28.560 a wild year in Washington, and it was awesome to watch. 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:31.360 But if you there's one criticism we have of it 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:33.280 is that they're able to run the ball for almost 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:36.079 one hundred yards directly up the middle, and a lot 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:37.760 of that was at kind of the end of the 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:39.960 third quarter start of the fourth quarter, where you would 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:42.160 think that teams would be more apt to be throwing 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:43.800 the ball as they're trying to catch up. And so 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:47.560 I think you know Deron and John obviously we know 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:49.920 all there is to know about them. I like last 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:52.920 week that you started seeing some combos of Johnny Newton 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:55.280 and Frederian mathis playing there in the middle, and I 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:58.400 think Fiderian in particular, with his size and his strength, 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:01.920 can help them, especially as the Browns keep trying to 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:03.400 pound the ball twin tackles. 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:06.200 You know, I'm really interested to see how this this 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:09.520 Commanders defensive line goes up against this Browns group, because, yeah, 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:12.080 if they do have the reputation for running the ball 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:14.880 really well, although they haven't necessarily done that so far 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:17.120 this year, probably because they don't have Nick Chubb and 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:18.439 and they're off of the line speed up, but their 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:20.960 averaging I think it's like ninety four yards per game 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:22.320 on the ground right now. But at the same time, 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:25.600 to your point, like they are still capable of busting 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:28.240 a long especially against a group that is really you know, 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:31.319 I would say struggled with quite a bit to contain 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:33.239 the run, which is I think it's a little bit surprising. 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:36.360 But either way, we're gonna go on to the next question. 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:39.439 But before we do that score update, it was todd 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:40.360 three to three. We miss. 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:42.640 I really liked the point about about the stack of 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:44.600 the box to south of run game, So you are 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:47.560 up four to three as as we get into question 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:54.720 two here, but it's yeah, you know, the fellow, the 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:56.679 fellow off the line. We got to stick together at 0:11:56.679 --> 0:12:00.160 some point. But going into the off inside of the ball, 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:02.839 you know, Braymy mentioned that this is the biggest test 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:06.120 for the for for Washington offense that that they've faced 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:06.640 all year. 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:08.520 I would also argue that this is. 0:12:08.640 --> 0:12:11.720 Cleveland's defense, that the biggest test for the Cleveland defense 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:13.880 that they've faced all year two because this, this Washington 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:17.560 offense has been historically great over the special blast three 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:20.200 weeks or so, they're leading the league in third down 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:23.920 success rate and I forget what the exact percentage is, 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:25.920 but it's over I'd say it's about two thirds their 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:29.400 their third Act of conversion percentage. But at the same time, this, 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:34.600 this Cleveland defense is seventh right now, So Mitchell start 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:36.760 off with you, like, what do you think Washington do 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:39.440 to continue that third down success against the Cleveland defense? 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:42.200 Who is you know, has been has a reputation being 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:44.360 very solid and has some of the numbers to back 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:44.960 it up as well. 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:48.439 Yeah, I mean, you hate to be too generic here, 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:50.959 but Jade Daniels has done such a good job of 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:53.040 keeping them a third and short or third and manageable, 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:56.080 and they've shown different ways of being multiple in those 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:58.280 short third downs. And I think that kind of the 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:02.280 combination of Jaden the so uh so accurate and so 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:05.000 quick getting rid of the ball and Cliff Kingsberry kind 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:06.480 of having a little bit of fun on that on 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:08.679 that offense. I mean, I think we've seen a couple 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:11.920 of kind of different types of plays from from Cliff 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:14.320 in this offense. A double pass to uh in Week 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:17.520 one against the Bucks, and then obviously the touchdown pass 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:21.000 against the Trent Scott against the Bengals were you know, 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:22.920 two that kind of stick out. But I think their 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:25.319 their ability to kind of keep the keep the defense 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:28.559 off there on their heels goes a long way. That's 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:31.560 the end of the game against the Cardinals where they 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:33.840 had Elamind's the Keys kind of motioned into the backfield 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:35.839 and then motioned back to kind of where he came 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:38.200 from and caught a quick little screen and took it 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:40.160 for you know, eight yards and a first down. I 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:42.440 just think their ability to to kind of keep the 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:44.320 defense on their heels with a lot of different looks, 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:46.240 particularly I'm third and down is going to be something 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:46.960 that helps them a lot. 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:51.240 No, I really do like how creative Cliff Kingsberry has 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:52.880 been with this offense. You're right, he does look like 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:54.680 he's having a lot of fun out there, just kind 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:56.200 of like some of the players that he's had are. 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:59.040 You know, they're so creative and so innovative in ways 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:01.320 that really highlights what these players do best. 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:03.320 Uh, brand I'll turn over to. 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:05.360 You because I know, I know you really love Brian Robinson, 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:07.679 but like, what role did Brian Robinson is he going 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:10.240 to have? Do you think on Sunday kind of convert 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:11.439 converting these third downs. 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:13.520 I was surprised to see his name on the injury list, 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:17.040 so like, let's just start with like assuming he's available, right, 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:21.360 Like that was a surprise, like seeing that on Wednesday. 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:25.280 So I'll kind of reiterate with what Mitch just said. 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:27.680 I really think one of the most impressive things this 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:29.840 team is doing here is how they're starting their drives. 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:34.200 They're getting Jayden in company in second and six or 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:36.600 shorter situations, and they're going to live good in that way. 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:39.920 Because of Jayden's ability to run, I think it keeps 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:43.040 a defense off balance and he opens up the playbook 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:45.720 immensely for them to play out of that. The one 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:47.880 time they punted last week, which is the one time 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:50.520 they punted in three weeks, was the one time that 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:52.800 on first down they were stunted for nothing and ended 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:56.200 up in a second and ten. And then oddly, I 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:59.680 thought they made an incredible call on this play. No 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:02.480 one's remember this one because one of the million scoring 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:05.000 drives that they had, they did a delayed draw to 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:08.040 Brian Robinson, which I haven't even seen them do, right, 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:11.400 I haven't really seen them do, And it just happened 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:14.880 that Arizona ran a double twist stunt with their two 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:18.040 defensive tackles, and I'm not even sure that they made 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:20.840 the right call. They just happened to have the right 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:23.360 thing on for this play at that moment, and he 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:26.320 ends up sliding away from one three hundred and fifty 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:29.400 pounds dude and running into another one. But it was, 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:32.680 honestly like it was the right play call at the 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:35.200 right time, which I think his timing has been on. 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:38.280 Doesn't mean they all work, but like he's just had 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:41.440 a feel for this. He's gotten them into very comfortable positions. 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:44.440 I think it's helped the comfort level of Daniels. This 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:47.400 is a team that blitzes among the top five in 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:49.920 the league. They will play a ton of man because 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:52.040 this is the best set of corners that Washington's going 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:54.280 to face up to this point in the season. Are 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:58.520 very comfortable blitzing and hopefully getting an advantage matchup with 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:02.080 Miles Garrett. So this is one where third and long 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:04.240 is death for you. I think you're going to see 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:06.720 a very different outcome this weekend if it's third and 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:09.360 eight or longer, over and over and over because of 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:12.000 the personnel that they're facing this weekend. So if they 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:14.040 can keep this model of whether it's be rob or 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:17.440 not be rob of getting into these second just four 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:20.760 yards on first down, second and six or shorter, this 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:24.200 is where they eat. And I think that that's where 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:27.080 they can continue. Maybe not to the degree that they 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:29.840 have over the last few weeks because it's historic and unprecedented, 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:34.440 but like, could they still be extremely effective possessing the ball, 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:37.680 scoring points and having a lead on a team like this. 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:40.480 For everything we talked about earlier about the Browns offense, 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:43.680 seems like the right path to a win this weekend. 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:47.920 Yeah, you know, Brian Robinson being on the Ajor report 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:50.760 was surprising to me as well, because we had just 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:53.680 got done hearing from Dan Quinn about how reliably is 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:55.680 how tough he is, and how he really doesn't really 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:58.280 ever need that much time to recover and get back 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:02.720 and back healthy. Mitch, like, I mean saying, saying Brian 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:06.000 Robinson maybe not wouldn't play is kind of a big 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:08.320 deal for this offense because he's by far one of 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:10.640 the most consistent weapons. I mean, he has the most 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:14.080 scrimmage jars for them. I think he's I think behind 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:20.080 Jane Danis's park downs produced. So you know, say, god forbid, 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:23.399 he's avail, he's not, he's not too badly hurt and everything. 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:24.040 He is available. 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:27.000 But like, what if you know Brian Robinson is ruled 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:29.800 out on Friday, Like, do you think this is gonna 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:32.720 have the dramatic effect on the offense and how do 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:33.840 you think they recover from that? 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:36.760 I do think it would have a pretty dramatic effect 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:39.280 because it was one thing when Austin Eckler went out, 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:42.840 Because Jeremy McNichols is a similar type player in terms 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:45.000 of you know, catching the ball to the backfield and 0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:47.359 being able to help him pass. Bro they don't really 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:50.640 have a second Brian Robinson. I guess Chris Rodriguez would 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:53.320 probably get called up and get a fair amount of 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:56.000 a fair amount of carries there. But I do think 0:17:56.040 --> 0:17:58.480 that he's a very important part of this team. I 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:00.680 think you also have to remember that, you know, this 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:03.480 is week four. There by week is in what another 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:06.080 ten weeks from now, You're gonna start seeing some veteran 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:08.600 days here as we go through, and generally when those 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:10.760 guys sit out of practice, they don't get the designation 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:13.879 of vetter in days. It's a you know, an ankle 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:16.840 injury and the injury it did not practice for one 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:20.120