1 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: What's going on? What's happened? Everybody? This is the Beatdown Podcast. 2 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: I am your host, Senior Wriyah for the Washington Commanders, 3 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: Zach Shelby and the vibes out here are immaculate in 4 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 2: ways that really haven't been in about a decade. As 5 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 2: the Commanders thoroughly dismantled the Arizona Cardinals forty two to fourteen, 6 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: going to three to one for the first time in 7 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: twenty eleven. 8 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: How about that. And after doing three. 9 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:33,919 Speaker 2: Of four road games to start the season, they are 10 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 2: coming back to Northwest Stadium to take on the Cleveland 11 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: Browns who are one in three, not necessarily the record 12 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: that they would want, but this is still a team 13 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 2: that's a little bit feistier than maybe some would think. 14 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 2: They've got a really strong defense to Shohn Watson is 15 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: still maybe not as maybe not now corback he was, 16 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 2: but still has some flashes of it here and there. 17 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: So the Commanders have a chance to go four and 18 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: one for the first time in two thousand and eight, 19 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: which would just be amazing for this French guys, for 20 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: this team as they get into the first year of 21 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: Dan Clinton's regime, and how do they gonna be able 22 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 2: to do that. Well, that's what we're gonna be talking 23 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 2: about today. And with me we have Mitch Tisler of 24 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 2: Monumental Sports and the Beltwegh Football Pot and Bran Winstein 25 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: and the voice of the Commanders and hosts of the 26 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 2: Bran Wonstein Show Boys. 27 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: How we do It Today? 28 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 3: Immaculate. 29 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, Mitch, this is a dream come true. I don't 30 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 4: think I've ever done a show with you. I am 31 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 4: very excited about this. 32 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 3: I am very excited about this too. I can't wait 33 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 3: at the beat you a little bit, all right? 34 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: They all right, awesome, So they mentioned the debate this, 35 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: We're gonna be really quick about it because guys, you 36 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 2: know how it goes now. I mean, these guys are 37 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 2: gonna be debating questions, They're gonna they're gonna be given points, 38 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 2: and uh, there is gonna be a winner. Because it's 39 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,839 Speaker 2: my podcast. I can decide who wins the who wins 40 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: and who loses. But at the same time, you know, 41 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: what you should be more focused on is what these 42 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: guys takes are rather than who wins and who loses. 43 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: Here because he's got some of the best of what 44 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: they do. Uh. And without further ado, let's go and 45 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: get started here starting with the Browns offense. And as 46 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:05,639 Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier, Deshaun Watson probably not the elite MVP 47 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 2: caliber quarterback that he was with the Houston Texans, but 48 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 2: you do still see flashes of the player that he 49 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 2: once was as he's gone through the first couple of 50 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 2: years in his tenure with the Browns. So, Bram, I 51 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: will start with you, because the quarterback is still the 52 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 2: most important position for this defensive stop. 53 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: What's the best approach to. 54 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 2: Limiting him as they come to him to the Commander Stadium. 55 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,119 Speaker 4: So I think this is really interesting because they don't 56 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 4: know whether this is by design, or it's due to injuries, 57 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 4: or they don't trust Watson to make plays down the field. 58 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 4: I mean, I think only they can really answer this. 59 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 4: But the vast majority of their offense is underneath. And 60 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 4: you'll see this in metrics, like he's like thirty first 61 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 4: in the league in pass yards per attempt, but they're 62 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 4: all dump offs to running backs or tight ends underneath. 63 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 4: There's very little plays that are thrown down the field. Obviously, 64 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 4: he can run and he can move, but he's not 65 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 4: apt to scramble all that much. He does to extend 66 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,399 Speaker 4: plays you know, he's been held under two hundred yards 67 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 4: passing in every single one of these games. I think, 68 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 4: you know, like this team is concerned about giving up 69 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 4: deep passes for good reason, right, like lack of a 70 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 4: consistent pass rush, which maybe has taken a turn over 71 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 4: the last week, which hopefully happened, and you know overall 72 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 4: cornerback play. Are they concerned with the matchups? And you know, 73 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 4: the Browns do have legitimate, very good and potentially deep 74 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 4: threat wide receivers on this team, but they don't profile it. 75 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 4: So I want to see how Joe and Dan Quinn 76 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 4: play this, Like are they going to be willing to 77 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 4: put more people up closer to the line in this game? 78 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 4: Daring Cleveland to try to do something that they're not 79 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 4: doing right now at the risk of can you cover 80 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 4: Amari Cooper and Jerry Judy down the field because the 81 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 4: Browns aren't doing it. So that's the cat and mouse 82 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 4: for me here. But from what I see from Cleveland, 83 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 4: everything's underneath. So I think Washington on some level needs 84 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 4: to find out if they are willing to take shots 85 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 4: down the field. 86 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you bring up a good point, because 87 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: the Brands do have some some really solid receivers. I 88 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: would say probably one of the better groups that they've 89 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 2: faced so far this year. And Mitch, you know, brand 90 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 2: brought up, you know, bring the secondary close to the 91 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 2: line of screens, playing a little bit of press and 92 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 2: and this seems to be where Washington has gotten beaten 93 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 2: a lot over the last first, you know, first couple 94 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: of weeks of the season and honestly most of last year. 95 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 2: So you know, I'll kind of pit it a little 96 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: bit and kind of ask you this so about contained 97 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: Sean Watson, like, do you feel comfortable enough with the 98 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 2: secondary that they are able to go up against Jerry 99 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 2: Judy and Amari Cooper and some of these other receivers 100 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 2: that they have. 101 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 3: I mean, I think you look at this Brown's offense 102 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 3: and it has a lot of big names on it. 103 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: You know, we keep talking. 104 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 3: We've mentioned the receivers, the you know, you know about 105 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 3: the quarterback. But I think it's like a lot of 106 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 3: a lot of teams that we've seen here in Washington 107 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 3: going back however many years, some big names, but not 108 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 3: big production. And I think it starts with what Bram 109 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 3: was talking about, the fact that they are scared to 110 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 3: go down the field Deshaun Watson's top five in the 111 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 3: league and dropbacks and bottom five in the league in 112 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 3: yards in yards per game, and it shows you kind 113 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 3: of what they're trying to do on offense. They're trying 114 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 3: to think and dunk it and run the ball a bunch. 115 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 3: And even though they are trying to run the ball 116 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 3: a bunch, they aren't even that successful at it because 117 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 3: they're bottom half of the league in running the ball, 118 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 3: and it starts up front for them. They have a 119 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 3: couple pretty key injuries. They haven't played a whole lot 120 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 3: this year with Jedrick Willis. Jack Conklin looks like he's 121 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 3: going to be out Wyatt Teller as well as a 122 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 3: All Pro guard for them, and they've gotten Deshaun Watson 123 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 3: hit a lot. He's been hit I think it was 124 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 3: seventeen times in two of the first four games, including 125 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 3: an eight sac performance in Week one. I think you're 126 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 3: gonna have an opportunity to put pressure on him, and 127 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 3: it's gonna be incumbent on the secondary to be able 128 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 3: to cover. We know that Joe Witt likes to play 129 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 3: single high d he likes to play press coverage on 130 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 3: the outside, and there have been you know some receivers 131 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 3: that have beat them with it. But if this d 132 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 3: line and this you know, complimentary pass rush can get 133 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 3: to Deshaun Watson and pours them off his spot, he's 134 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 3: proven that he can't get the ball. He hasn't been 135 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 3: able to get the ball downfield, particularly when he breaks 136 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 3: the pocket, and he's had, you know, amongst the lowest 137 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 3: time in the in the league drop back to past year. 138 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 3: So it's these guys shouldn't have to run around in 139 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 3: the secondary for five ten seconds like we've seen you know, 140 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 3: other years. Other teams have to have to try and do. 141 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 3: And so I do think they're going to be able 142 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,679 Speaker 3: to get up there and use Benjamin Saint Jus's size 143 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 3: and Jim Met the line of scrimmage a little bit. 144 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, yeah, that is a good point. 145 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: And you know, I think Watson is really at his 146 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 2: most dangerous las in the games that I've seen, you know, 147 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 2: over you know, when I watched it yesterday, is it 148 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 2: seems like he is at his most deadly whenever he's 149 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 2: outside of the pocket, whenever he's able. 150 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: To extend plays. 151 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 2: And you know, I know that the commanders only allowed 152 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 2: Cali murder for one rush for three yards. But this 153 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: is mobile quarterbacks are still I would say it's still 154 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 2: a bit of a challenge for this defense. So so 155 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: bram D and as good as they were able to 156 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 2: play against Calmber, do you think that's a little bit 157 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 2: of a formula for how this the Stevens the line 158 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 2: can contain Watson going into week five. 159 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 4: Last week was by far and not close, their best 160 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 4: collective defensive performance, and I mean by a mile, like 161 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 4: by a mile. And I will say this, there were 162 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 4: multiple occasions where they had Murray confused the fact that 163 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 4: he took a sack on the fourth and one on 164 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 4: to tell you everything, you kind of really need to 165 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 4: know about where he was in reading what Washington was 166 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 4: doing to them. So I do hope that there's a carryover. 167 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 4: There was a deficiency on the right side of their line. 168 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 4: Calvin Beacham played, but he was coming off the hamstring. 169 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 4: They didn't really have backups, and Doriance Armstrong had his 170 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 4: best game, you know, as a commander. Off of this. 171 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 4: To Mitch's point, this is a this is a really 172 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 4: great offensive line when they have their players together. They 173 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 4: don't they're missing two or three of their starters. They're 174 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 4: playing a ton of backups I think they're doing. Go 175 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 4: watch Chelsea. You want to go watch something interesting on 176 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 4: the film, Go watch on the outside. Their receivers they 177 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 4: barely release when they're running the ball, like I think 178 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 4: that they just they have kind of come into this 179 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 4: position of they are what they are based on the injuries, 180 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 4: and I think maybe what the coaches think the capabilities 181 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 4: of this offense are so they're to me in lies 182 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 4: a couple of things. One, are they a competent group? Right? 183 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 4: And if they're not, if Washington get on top of them, 184 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 4: maybe you can get a couple of sacks. The most 185 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 4: sacked quarterback in the NFL. I think there's an opportunity 186 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 4: here to limit them. They're having a hard time scoring points. 187 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 4: It's partially by design. They're trying to go small chunks 188 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 4: at a time. So if I'm Washington, you know, I 189 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 4: think I'm loading up the box a little bit here 190 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 4: and I'm daring them to throw the ball a little 191 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 4: bit and see if maybe we can get even bigger 192 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 4: mistakes than what you're getting now, which is they're not 193 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 4: turning the ball over a time, they're just not scoring 194 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 4: and they're not moving the ball in chunks. Can we 195 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 4: get a couple turnovers here, because that seems overdue and 196 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 4: that seems to be kind of heading in that direction. 197 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 4: If that's what's happening here, then I think it gives 198 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 4: your offense a better shot here because this is and 199 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 4: I know we haven't gotten another side of the ball yet, 200 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 4: this is gonna be arguably the best defense they have 201 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 4: faced up to this point in the season. Maybe maybe Tampa's, 202 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 4: but like this, in my opinion, this is, across the board, 203 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 4: probably the best defense they have faced. And therefore I 204 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 4: think they're gonna need a couple more breaks than what 205 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 4: they've gotten in previous weeks. 206 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 2: And before we get to this side of the ball, 207 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 2: and you're right about that, Mitche, Like, you know, do 208 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 2: you think, as Brams said, that they're going to try 209 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 2: to load the box a little bit and try to 210 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 2: put some more pressure on Watson to make some of 211 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 2: these more difficult decisions. 212 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 3: I think they need to, but it's not necessarily related 213 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 3: to Watson's quick decision making. It's related to stopping this 214 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 3: run game. If you can make this Browns team one dimensional, 215 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 3: especially if the offense is able to continue scoring points, 216 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 3: and you know that Deshaun's going to be dropping back, 217 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 3: then you're gonna be able to to really get after him. 218 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 3: But the middle of this defensive line has struggled against 219 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 3: the run. In the middle of this defense across the 220 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 3: hole has struggled against the run. And if you allow 221 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 3: this Browns team to get comfortable and start moving the 222 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 3: ball easily on the ground, then things are going to 223 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 3: open up for Deshaun because you're gonna have to start, 224 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 3: you know, packing it in on that side. And so 225 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 3: I expect that we're going to see a more concerted 226 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 3: effort in the middle of that defense. Like Bram said, 227 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 3: last week was the best defensive performance we've seen in 228 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 3: a wild year in Washington, and it was awesome to watch. 229 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 3: But if you there's one criticism we have of it 230 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 3: is that they're able to run the ball for almost 231 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 3: one hundred yards directly up the middle, and a lot 232 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 3: of that was at kind of the end of the 233 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 3: third quarter start of the fourth quarter, where you would 234 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 3: think that teams would be more apt to be throwing 235 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 3: the ball as they're trying to catch up. And so 236 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 3: I think you know Deron and John obviously we know 237 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 3: all there is to know about them. I like last 238 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 3: week that you started seeing some combos of Johnny Newton 239 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 3: and Frederian mathis playing there in the middle, and I 240 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 3: think Fiderian in particular, with his size and his strength, 241 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 3: can help them, especially as the Browns keep trying to 242 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 3: pound the ball twin tackles. 243 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 2: You know, I'm really interested to see how this this 244 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: Commanders defensive line goes up against this Browns group, because, yeah, 245 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 2: if they do have the reputation for running the ball 246 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 2: really well, although they haven't necessarily done that so far 247 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 2: this year, probably because they don't have Nick Chubb and 248 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 2: and they're off of the line speed up, but their 249 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 2: averaging I think it's like ninety four yards per game 250 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 2: on the ground right now. But at the same time, 251 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 2: to your point, like they are still capable of busting 252 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 2: a long especially against a group that is really you know, 253 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 2: I would say struggled with quite a bit to contain 254 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,239 Speaker 2: the run, which is I think it's a little bit surprising. 255 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 2: But either way, we're gonna go on to the next question. 256 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 1: But before we do that score update, it was todd 257 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: three to three. We miss. 258 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 2: I really liked the point about about the stack of 259 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 2: the box to south of run game, So you are 260 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 2: up four to three as as we get into question 261 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 2: two here, but it's yeah, you know, the fellow, the 262 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 2: fellow off the line. We got to stick together at 263 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 2: some point. But going into the off inside of the ball, 264 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 2: you know, Braymy mentioned that this is the biggest test 265 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 2: for the for for Washington offense that that they've faced 266 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 2: all year. 267 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: I would also argue that this is. 268 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 2: Cleveland's defense, that the biggest test for the Cleveland defense 269 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 2: that they've faced all year two because this, this Washington 270 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 2: offense has been historically great over the special blast three 271 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 2: weeks or so, they're leading the league in third down 272 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 2: success rate and I forget what the exact percentage is, 273 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 2: but it's over I'd say it's about two thirds their 274 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 2: their third Act of conversion percentage. But at the same time, this, 275 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 2: this Cleveland defense is seventh right now, So Mitchell start 276 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 2: off with you, like, what do you think Washington do 277 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 2: to continue that third down success against the Cleveland defense? 278 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 2: Who is you know, has been has a reputation being 279 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 2: very solid and has some of the numbers to back 280 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 2: it up as well. 281 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you hate to be too generic here, 282 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 3: but Jade Daniels has done such a good job of 283 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 3: keeping them a third and short or third and manageable, 284 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 3: and they've shown different ways of being multiple in those 285 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 3: short third downs. And I think that kind of the 286 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 3: combination of Jaden the so uh so accurate and so 287 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 3: quick getting rid of the ball and Cliff Kingsberry kind 288 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 3: of having a little bit of fun on that on 289 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 3: that offense. I mean, I think we've seen a couple 290 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 3: of kind of different types of plays from from Cliff 291 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 3: in this offense. A double pass to uh in Week 292 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 3: one against the Bucks, and then obviously the touchdown pass 293 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 3: against the Trent Scott against the Bengals were you know, 294 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 3: two that kind of stick out. But I think their 295 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 3: their ability to kind of keep the keep the defense 296 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 3: off there on their heels goes a long way. That's 297 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 3: the end of the game against the Cardinals where they 298 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 3: had Elamind's the Keys kind of motioned into the backfield 299 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 3: and then motioned back to kind of where he came 300 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 3: from and caught a quick little screen and took it 301 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 3: for you know, eight yards and a first down. I 302 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 3: just think their ability to to kind of keep the 303 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 3: defense on their heels with a lot of different looks, 304 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 3: particularly I'm third and down is going to be something 305 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 3: that helps them a lot. 306 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 2: No, I really do like how creative Cliff Kingsberry has 307 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 2: been with this offense. You're right, he does look like 308 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 2: he's having a lot of fun out there, just kind 309 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 2: of like some of the players that he's had are. 310 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 2: You know, they're so creative and so innovative in ways 311 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 2: that really highlights what these players do best. 312 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: Uh, brand I'll turn over to. 313 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 2: You because I know, I know you really love Brian Robinson, 314 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 2: but like, what role did Brian Robinson is he going 315 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 2: to have? Do you think on Sunday kind of convert 316 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 2: converting these third downs. 317 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 4: I was surprised to see his name on the injury list, 318 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 4: so like, let's just start with like assuming he's available, right, 319 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 4: Like that was a surprise, like seeing that on Wednesday. 320 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 4: So I'll kind of reiterate with what Mitch just said. 321 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 4: I really think one of the most impressive things this 322 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 4: team is doing here is how they're starting their drives. 323 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 4: They're getting Jayden in company in second and six or 324 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 4: shorter situations, and they're going to live good in that way. 325 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 4: Because of Jayden's ability to run, I think it keeps 326 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 4: a defense off balance and he opens up the playbook 327 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 4: immensely for them to play out of that. The one 328 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 4: time they punted last week, which is the one time 329 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 4: they punted in three weeks, was the one time that 330 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 4: on first down they were stunted for nothing and ended 331 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 4: up in a second and ten. And then oddly, I 332 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 4: thought they made an incredible call on this play. No 333 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 4: one's remember this one because one of the million scoring 334 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 4: drives that they had, they did a delayed draw to 335 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 4: Brian Robinson, which I haven't even seen them do, right, 336 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 4: I haven't really seen them do, And it just happened 337 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 4: that Arizona ran a double twist stunt with their two 338 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 4: defensive tackles, and I'm not even sure that they made 339 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 4: the right call. They just happened to have the right 340 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 4: thing on for this play at that moment, and he 341 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 4: ends up sliding away from one three hundred and fifty 342 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 4: pounds dude and running into another one. But it was, 343 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 4: honestly like it was the right play call at the 344 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 4: right time, which I think his timing has been on. 345 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 4: Doesn't mean they all work, but like he's just had 346 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 4: a feel for this. He's gotten them into very comfortable positions. 347 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 4: I think it's helped the comfort level of Daniels. This 348 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 4: is a team that blitzes among the top five in 349 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 4: the league. They will play a ton of man because 350 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 4: this is the best set of corners that Washington's going 351 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 4: to face up to this point in the season. Are 352 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 4: very comfortable blitzing and hopefully getting an advantage matchup with 353 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 4: Miles Garrett. So this is one where third and long 354 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 4: is death for you. I think you're going to see 355 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 4: a very different outcome this weekend if it's third and 356 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 4: eight or longer, over and over and over because of 357 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 4: the personnel that they're facing this weekend. So if they 358 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 4: can keep this model of whether it's be rob or 359 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 4: not be rob of getting into these second just four 360 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 4: yards on first down, second and six or shorter, this 361 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 4: is where they eat. And I think that that's where 362 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 4: they can continue. Maybe not to the degree that they 363 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 4: have over the last few weeks because it's historic and unprecedented, 364 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 4: but like, could they still be extremely effective possessing the ball, 365 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 4: scoring points and having a lead on a team like this. 366 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 4: For everything we talked about earlier about the Browns offense, 367 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 4: seems like the right path to a win this weekend. 368 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Brian Robinson being on the Ajor report 369 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: was surprising to me as well, because we had just 370 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 2: got done hearing from Dan Quinn about how reliably is 371 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 2: how tough he is, and how he really doesn't really 372 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 2: ever need that much time to recover and get back 373 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: and back healthy. Mitch, like, I mean saying, saying Brian 374 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 2: Robinson maybe not wouldn't play is kind of a big 375 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 2: deal for this offense because he's by far one of 376 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 2: the most consistent weapons. I mean, he has the most 377 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 2: scrimmage jars for them. I think he's I think behind 378 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 2: Jane Danis's park downs produced. So you know, say, god forbid, 379 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 2: he's avail, he's not, he's not too badly hurt and everything. 380 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: He is available. 381 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 2: But like, what if you know Brian Robinson is ruled 382 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 2: out on Friday, Like, do you think this is gonna 383 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 2: have the dramatic effect on the offense and how do 384 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 2: you think they recover from that? 385 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 3: I do think it would have a pretty dramatic effect 386 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 3: because it was one thing when Austin Eckler went out, 387 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 3: Because Jeremy McNichols is a similar type player in terms 388 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 3: of you know, catching the ball to the backfield and 389 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 3: being able to help him pass. Bro they don't really 390 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 3: have a second Brian Robinson. I guess Chris Rodriguez would 391 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 3: probably get called up and get a fair amount of 392 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 3: a fair amount of carries there. But I do think 393 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 3: that he's a very important part of this team. I 394 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 3: think you also have to remember that, you know, this 395 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 3: is week four. There by week is in what another 396 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 3: ten weeks from now, You're gonna start seeing some veteran 397 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 3: days here as we go through, and generally when those 398 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 3: guys sit out of practice, they don't get the designation 399 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 3: of vetter in days. It's a you know, an ankle 400 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 3: injury and the injury it did not practice for one 401 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 3: of those reasons. But regardless, I think the commanders often 402 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 3: should have a lot of success, particularly in the running game, 403 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 3: but kind of across the board. Last week against the 404 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 3: ram against the Raiders, the Browns defense had twenty miss tackles. 405 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 3: It was a most in a single game in the 406 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 3: NFL this year. The Raiders came in averaging fifty yards 407 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 3: on the ground. They ran for a buck fifty five 408 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 3: or something like that. 409 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: Last week. 410 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 3: I mean, there's a lot of opportunity to run the 411 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 3: ball here. And as impressive as Jayden Daniels has been 412 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 3: in the past game it's been Brian Robbins and Austin 413 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 3: eckler Jeremy mcnichol's on the ground, you know, opening up 414 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 3: things and not allowing teams to play this deep cloud 415 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 3: cover two that we've seen all over the NFL that 416 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 3: all the all the analysts are complaining about. And so 417 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 3: getting somebody who's gonna be able to get those tough 418 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 3: yards of the middle and turn those three four yard 419 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 3: runs into eight nine ten yard runs like Brian Robinson 420 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 3: does kind of regularly is certainly a very important part. 421 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 2: Now, Brandon, before we move on to the last question, 422 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 2: here another commander running back who is still a little 423 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 2: who was on the injury port, Austin Ecklery with the 424 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 2: cushion partival. 425 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: He was limited, you know on Wednesday. 426 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 2: Seems like he's like maybe on track to to be 427 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 2: available for Sunday if he is able able to play. 428 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 2: You know, as much as we love the way Jeremy 429 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 2: McNichols played and everything, like, how big is that going 430 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 2: to be for this for this offense to get a 431 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 2: player like that back? 432 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, either way with Robinson, whether he plays 433 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 4: or not, and I'm not I don't have any information 434 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 4: he's not gonna play. 435 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 3: I was just. 436 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 4: Surprised on the injury list, like he's really the lead 437 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 4: running back on the team. I don't think Eckler steps 438 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,239 Speaker 4: up and becomes that for this I think he can. 439 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 4: He maintains his role, and it's obvious it's a big 440 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 4: deal if he comes back and plays by the way 441 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 4: that he's played. But I don't think you're turning around 442 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 4: and giving him seventeen to twenty carries like you have 443 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 4: b Robs. So it does change the dynamic of the offense. 444 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 4: Maybe it limits the amount of carries that you give 445 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 4: to Robinson, and I think that would be sounds like 446 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 4: should be trending in that direction anyway at this point. 447 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 4: And I will say this just largely, and I think 448 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 4: really there's a couple of things to the success and 449 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 4: number five is a big part of it, obviously, and 450 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 4: Cliff Kingsbury's play calling is a big part of it. 451 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 4: But the buy in and overall physicality of this team 452 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 4: across the board is it's surprising just because of how 453 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 4: new it all is, and you hear coach speak and 454 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 4: cliches and all these things, and like we're going to 455 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 4: do this and we're going to do that, and everybody's 456 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 4: got their slogans and this team's living up to it. 457 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 4: And just go watch Ben Sinnett or Sam Cosmy or 458 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 4: a big time rejuvenated Andrew Wiley specifically in a run 459 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 4: heavy type offense. Now go watch Brandon Coleman all the 460 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 4: things they were saying about him, like in the summer 461 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 4: that they're like, you're going to see how athletic and 462 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 4: how aggressive he is. You're seeing this like Terry mclaurin's 463 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 4: blocks on the edge. Go watch Daniel's touchdown run and 464 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 4: where he rides his own you know, offensive lineman and 465 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 4: points out where they're almost like he was navigating to 466 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 4: Kentucky Derby. I mean, it's pretty wild. Like what you're saying, 467 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 4: Baddish is he should be in the Pro Bowl for 468 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 4: the way that he's played so far through four games 469 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 4: for them as well, like largely and I know this 470 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 4: is a Commander show, but like go watch them and 471 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 4: you will be it is. It's shocked how efficient they are, 472 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 4: how aggressive they are play to play to play to 473 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 4: play to play. And while you know, I think every 474 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 4: all the gushing over Daniels is completely deserved because what 475 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 4: he's doing is literally unprecedented, but everything that's happening around 476 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 4: him is allowing it to happen at the same time, 477 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 4: and it's really it's it's amazing. And you know, they 478 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 4: got a one to three team that at some points, 479 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 4: you know, and in some groups, doesn't look like that 480 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 4: they're as locked in as this group is. I think 481 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 4: if Washington gets on top of them, this is a 482 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 4: team that could fold. They could fold. And that's what 483 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 4: I'm hoping to kind of see on. 484 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 3: Sunday, Bram when your point is so good because the 485 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 3: running that the offensive line gets credit for the first 486 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 3: three to five yards of a run, then the secondary 487 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 3: group of blockers, your tight ends, your wide receivers, your fullbacks, 488 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 3: whatever they get kind of the next couple of yards, 489 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 3: and then the running backs are get credit for the 490 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 3: rest of it. And the blocking that we've seen from 491 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 3: the non o line has been so impressive. You mentioned 492 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 3: Ben Sennett, Yeah, the German Jeremy McNichols first touchdown against 493 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 3: the against the Cardinals, you had Terry McLaurin lead blocking. 494 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 3: There the buy in that you see across the board 495 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 3: from these guys, particularly when you compare it to what's 496 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 3: happening in Cleveland. Braham talked about the wide receivers not 497 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 3: looking too interested on running plays getting out there the 498 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 3: mistackles last week. This feels like a team that is 499 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 3: that you know, is prying to be to to crush 500 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 3: their souls early in the game and get out to 501 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 3: a lead and not have to look back. 502 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 2: You know, if there's one thing I've I've come to 503 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 2: appreciate over the last five weeks or so, it's the 504 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 2: power of the buy in. Because, yeah, you hear a lot, 505 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 2: like you're a coach speak things and you're like, we've 506 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,959 Speaker 2: all heard it, you know, like oh yeah, like you 507 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 2: know the cliches that every coach says for whatever is. 508 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,719 Speaker 2: But like this, these players really believe in it. And 509 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 2: I think that's just as big of a of a 510 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 2: reason why they're three and one are now as you know, 511 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,719 Speaker 2: the way Jaye Daniel is playing with offenses playing like 512 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 2: they really truly believe like the messages that DQ and 513 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 2: his staff have have implemented and that it's just that 514 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 2: I think it just makes it that much more fun. 515 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 1: Uh. 516 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 2: But final question, you guys are tied, so there's a 517 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 2: lot of stakes heading into this third question here, and 518 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 2: you know, there are a lot of really big matchups 519 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 2: across the game that's gonna happen on Sunday. We kind 520 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 2: of talked about a couple of them already. Uh, you know, 521 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 2: with the Browns receivers versus the Commanders secondary, but the 522 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 2: Commanders off the line for Miles Garrett and the Browns 523 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 2: deefsive line. I mean, that's probably gonna be I think 524 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 2: one of the more important ones, especially considered Miles Garrett 525 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 2: and then the reputation he has and the pedigree he's 526 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 2: been able to accumulate over his career. Uh So, Bram, 527 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 2: start with you, what will the more important matchup for 528 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 2: the Commanders to win on Sunday? The Commanders off the 529 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 2: line versus Mouth Garrett, and that even the line or 530 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 2: the Browns receivers versus the Commander's secondary. 531 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 4: Oooh god, I want to pass because this team plays 532 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 4: man more than most teams do, and they will blitz 533 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 4: a lot. And I and assuming, unlike Arizona, who I 534 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 4: think tried to switch things up on Jayden to see 535 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 4: how he would react to it, and they forty two 536 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 4: points later probably regret that, I'm going to assume that, 537 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 4: like Cleveland is going to play to their core, which 538 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 4: is they do bring a lot of heat. They will blitz. 539 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 4: They're top by blitz team. They're kind of like Tampa, 540 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 4: so they'll put their corners on an island. And for 541 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 4: good reason, this is the best set of corners Washington's 542 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 4: face this year, like across the board collectively, So you know, 543 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 4: the blitz pick up is everything here again to give 544 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 4: Jade the time. And then do they have the receivers? 545 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 4: We've asked this a million times. Do they have the 546 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 4: receivers to win one on one? And not? Do they 547 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 4: have the receivers to win one on one just in general? 548 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 4: But do they against one's a pro bowler and the 549 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 4: other one's really really good. So let's see where they are. 550 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 4: To answer your question directly, I am more inclined to 551 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 4: believe because of the physical nature of the play and 552 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 4: how kind of in lockstep they've been with one another, 553 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 4: that there's not gonna be a lot of breakdowns. So 554 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 4: Jaden's gonna have the time to make the play. So 555 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with the receivers against the corners because 556 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 4: I think that is, to me, is the matchup of 557 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 4: the day, and that is a massive strength of Cleveland, 558 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 4: And I still think it's semi and open question about Washington. 559 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 4: Do they have the level of receivers to beat top 560 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 4: tier corners like this regularly, So that to me would 561 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 4: be probably the way I would lean. But it's close 562 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 4: because Miles Garrett might be the best defensive end in 563 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 4: the NFL. So you know, like it's close, all. 564 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 2: Right, Mitch, I a feeling you might go the direction 565 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 2: I think you're gonna go. 566 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 1: But what do you got for me? 567 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 3: I'm actually gonna agree with Brim and I think it's 568 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 3: wide receivers versus dbs there because I've been so impressed 569 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 3: with what you've seen upfront from this Washington offensive line. 570 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 3: Two weeks ago, they played Trey Hendrickson, who was the 571 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 3: second leading sacker in the NFL last year, and held 572 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 3: him to one late sack that was a little bit 573 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,479 Speaker 3: of a miscommunication, but for the most part handled them 574 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 3: almost one on one exclusively with Brandon Coleman and Cornelius. 575 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: Lucas out there. 576 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 3: And yes, we're gonna see the Browns bring a lot 577 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 3: of pressure, which I think is you know, in their DNA. 578 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 3: But the let's pick up from this running back group 579 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 3: so far this season has been so impressive. You think 580 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 3: about that touchdown pass, the Terry and Jeremy Nichols, you know, 581 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 3: body slamming whoever the linebacker was that was blitzing up 582 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 3: the middle. Austin Eckler has been an absolute beast in 583 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 3: the backfield, particularly in pass pro, and I think that's 584 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 3: sort of what's helped him in those kind of quick 585 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 3: screen games is that these teams are now recognizing they 586 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 3: have to put pass rush moves on a running back 587 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 3: to try and get to your QB. And so to me, 588 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be about making this Browns offense 589 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 3: one dimensional. I want to see them pack the box 590 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 3: and not let the Browns run the ball in them. 591 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 3: Quite frankly, I'm not too scared that Deshaun Watson's going 592 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 3: to beat them over the top. But obviously if you're 593 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 3: throwing the wide open receivers thirty yards downfield, that can 594 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 3: be the case. So I do want to see what 595 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 3: Emmanuel Forbes and and Mikey Sanders still and Benjamin Saint 596 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 3: just can do. Because last week those guys had a 597 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 3: pretty you know, had a pretty good day. Sander's still 598 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 3: got beat for the touchdown early and then they kind 599 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 3: of locked it down on that Cardinals receiving cores and 600 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 3: they didn't get open deep and Marvin Harrison Junior ended 601 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 3: up with you know, very few yards. Obviously, you know 602 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 3: there are two guys here in uh in Cleveland who 603 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 3: can beat them deep, but they haven't done it so 604 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 3: far this season. So I want to see these corners 605 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 3: continue to step up, you know, get a little more 606 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 3: confidence and be able to cover these guys one on one. 607 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 2: Now, the commons of the corners is going to be 608 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 2: is going to be massive, Yeah, because I think you've 609 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 2: seen the Stevens slowly grow a little increments by increments 610 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 2: over the last two weeks, and they really took a 611 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 2: big step forward against the Cardinals. And you're right, Jim Schwartz, 612 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 2: He's been known for bringing the heat throughout his career 613 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 2: and I think he's probably going to continue to do 614 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 2: that again. But after much, after all hearing all the 615 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 2: pontification that from both these guys, the final decision is 616 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 2: rested upon my shoulders, and I determined that Bram coming 617 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 2: back from down two points, you are now the winner 618 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 2: of this episode of the Beatdown Podcast. 619 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 1: Do you have any parting words of victory for us. 620 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 4: Like I said, this thing is rigged, like there's always 621 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 4: sing the whole thing was gonna be rigged. I was 622 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 4: gonna get the comeback the whole time. Sorry, Mitch, its 623 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 4: stacked against you. 624 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: You called it the Beatdown Podcast. 625 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 3: I'll see both of you guys in the media room 626 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 3: and you better believe I'll be ready for it. 627 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 2: Oh god, well, I think we sitting next to each other, Mitch. 628 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 2: I might just sit on the other end of the 629 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 2: room today. But guys, I really appreciate you guys doing this. 630 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 2: We'll see what happens on Sunday. Should be a really 631 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 2: exciting game. And for everyone listening, please you should to rate, review, subscribe, 632 00:28:48,760 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 2: and this has been the Beatdown Podcast.