WEBVTT - How Crying Works 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.840 Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:07.320 It's ready. Are you welcome to you Stuff you Should 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:21.439 Know from House Stuff Works dot Com. It's all right, 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:30.720 cry crying, that's sad out all of you. It's all right, hey, 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:33.839 and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:38.639 w Chuck Bryant. How are you doing good, sir? Are 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:41.879 you doing good? Okay? Good? Um, you put the two 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:44.480 of us together and you've got a little podcast called 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:46.159 Stuff you Should Know, And that's what this is. And 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:49.360 you get more than that. Even though, uh, this was 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:54.040 an abnormal start, semi abnormal. We've had Devo kick us 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:58.760 off before. Uh yeah, but hey, Divo has got nothing 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:00.760 on Rosie Greer. No, you want to talk a little 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:05.240 bit about well, yeah, obviously, uh, children of the seventies 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:08.319 might recognize that song. Um might be very fond to 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:10.800 some of you, like it is to Me from the 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:15.679 awesome album Free to Be You and Me, which uh 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:19.640 Marlo Thomas headed up this this record in the seventies 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:23.440 to basically build kids up, make him feel better about 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:26.240 you know, if you're a boy and you're a little effeminine, 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:27.600 you like to play with dolls. So was the one 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:31.480 called William Wants a Doll. If you're a boy and 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:34.120 you know you wanted to cry, Rosie Greer's there to 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:36.520 tell you it's okay. Ye might make you feel better. 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:39.480 And uh there was you know, there was one about 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:42.600 like treating your grandparents with respect, and it's okay for 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:45.959 girls to like do boy things and boys to do 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:48.919 girl things. And you know it's very seventies. It's okay 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:52.240 for girls to punch in the arm. Yeah, pretty hard. 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:53.840 I think there was a song about that. I love 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:56.680 the seventies for that reason. It was great though. Man, 0:01:56.720 --> 0:01:59.840 I listened to this one like a lot. Yeah. Mel 0:01:59.840 --> 0:02:02.400 Books was on it, and and Bancroft, and I mean 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:05.760 it was a litany of awesome seventies guests. So thank you, 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:08.760 Marlo Thomas, and now thank you to Uncle Chuck for 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:12.760 bringing it back. Josh, before we go any further, what 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:16.000 are you doing? We have a very special announcement that 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:17.600 I'd like you to make right now. You want me 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:19.400 to make it, and we're doing it at the beginning 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:22.240 of the show, because not everyone listens all the way through, 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:25.720 even though they're missing out. Yeah, uh so, yeah, please 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:29.040 announce this is a very high honor. As everyone knows, 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:32.080 We're doing a live podcast at south By Southwest on Sunday, 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:34.720 March eleven, from three thirty four thirty in the Maximilian 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:37.720 Room at the Drisco Hotel. Right that for badge holders, 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:40.240 it's been pretty clear the whole time, I hope. So 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:43.560 we've been kind of dancing around what we're doing at 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:47.040 this special event, this stuff you should know. Variety Show 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:50.760 the next day, which is Monday, March twelve, from five 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:54.600 to nine at Fidoux Irish Pub on Fourth Street in Austin. 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:58.480 Dance no more, sir, No, I hand the dance card 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:01.720 over to you. Chuck do it, uh, dudes and do debts. 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:05.760 We have been lucky enough to get a chance at 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:10.960 television with a TV pilot for Science Channel. The awesome, 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:14.239 awesome people at Science Channel have given us a chance 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:18.040 for a half hour TV pilot. We made it. It's 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:21.240 in the can. Yeah, like we'd gone over where in 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:25.160 the second round of editing. We're just all together. It's happening. 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:29.040 This pilot is coming together. It is coming together, and uh. 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:32.600 That will be the basis of the Variety Show, featuring 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:35.920 an appearance by Mr John Hodgman. How could we not 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:39.680 include Hodgy? He's always there. Eugene Merman, who I'm looking 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:43.760 forward to meeting, very funny comedian big Man. His music 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:48.280 by Lucy waynewright Roach, who is in the pilot to 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:52.680 play Jerry Crazy and Jerry will be there too, and 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:54.600 we're gonna put him right next to one another. Remember 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:58.200 it's been the plan all along, our buddies Henry Clay, 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:00.320 people who have been friends for a few years now. 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:03.280 It's crazy and who you manage on the side, manage 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:07.640 and the side sometimes. Uh, they did the score, Joey 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:09.520 when the band did the score and the theme song, 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:12.040 did a lot of composing, did some good stuff. Yeah, 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:15.520 and they will be playing this this party and local 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:18.479 Austin band Crooks, who it turns out are also fans 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:21.039 of the show. And that just happened. Yeah, I like 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:25.080 it when serendip happens to So Crooks are gonna be 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:27.560 playing as well. And they're they're awesome, sort of old 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:30.880 school country with a little new school rock thrown in. 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:33.960 And uh, we will be showing clips from the show 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:36.640 throughout the night, which we think, I mean, we've seen 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:40.200 this show how many times? Chuck and I still like it. 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:43.080 I feel like this is a pretty neat pilot. So 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:45.080 if you want to be in the know and get 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:48.040 a sneak peek this thing and whatever I said on 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:50.480 Facebook today, whatever you think this show was like, you're wrong. 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:54.240 Oh wow, you've been You've been taunting people. I just 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:56.760 I don't think anyone is gonna expect what we're gonna 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:59.560 give him. Okay, well it's gonna air at some point 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:02.599 right to yeah, the spring, but this is the debut, 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:07.240 the premiere of the sneak peak clips of the Stuff 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:10.359 You Should Know TV pilot. That's right, Monday, March twelve 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:13.120 from five to nine Fidoe Irish Pub to fourteen West 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:16.240 fourth Street, Austin, Texas. Free drink ticket to the first 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:19.840 one guests. Yes, I mean that's really You don't have 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:22.880 to like leg wrestle to find out who uses it. 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:26.480 So wow, yeah that is that is reason up the coach. 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:29.960 And this is not for badge holders, Nope, this is 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:33.359 for the public at large and it's anybody can come free. 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:36.599 It's totally totals free. Well we're not buying drinks or anything, 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:39.839 but it's it's still like there's no admission. Uh, no 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:42.720 admission whatsoever. I don't even think there's an age requirement. 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:45.560 I believe they serve food. It's like just a restaurant 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:48.800 as well, so you don't have to get all drinking. 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:51.279 You can just come and sip on some iced tea. Excellent. 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:52.840 So is that it? Can we get back to the 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:55.680 show now? All right? Back to the show we recorded 0:05:55.800 --> 0:06:01.200 several weeks back. Okay, Wow, the focus obviously on this 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:05.719 one is crying. If you notice the title, that shouldn't 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:08.000 come as much of a surprise. UM, I have a 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:10.760 little story for you. Um have you heard of the 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:15.560 movie Water for Elephants? Uh? Yeah, it's like Reese Witherspoon 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:18.240 and the dude from Twilight. Yeah. Emily saw that. Is 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:21.560 it any good? She enjoyed it? Well. I was researching 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:24.360 whether or not elephants can cry, and apparently at one 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:27.520 of the premiers, I think the premiere in Australia for 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:32.040 this movie, the elephant costar was there and it started 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:36.440 crying really and apparently everybody was really affected by this 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:40.120 elephant just crying in you know, the middle of public. 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:42.360 Didn't think the Australians, We're going to eat them. I 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:44.599 don't know what the elephant was thinking, And we're not 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:47.640 even certain whether the elephant was crying, because as far 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:51.480 as we can tell, humans are the only species that 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:56.000 cry emotionally as the result of an emotion. Yes, but 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:59.760 it is possible that elephants and guerrillas are the two 0:06:59.800 --> 0:07:03.280 like as candidates as it stands now do as well. 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:07.200 But we're so far from understanding whether elephants do that. 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:12.000 We don't even know how often humans cry, let alone 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:15.040 whether elephants can cry for an emotion. Yeah, there's been 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:17.800 a lot more studies done on laughter and its benefits 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:21.320 than crying. I found out. Yeah, I've noticed, Chuck, we've 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:23.840 been doing this what for coming up on twenty years, 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:27.720 four years, we're coming up onto our fourth year eventually 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:31.760 this year. UM And I found like, when we encounter 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:35.680 stuff like this fields topics that haven't fully been sussed out, 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:39.520 there's two ways it can go. It's either loaded with 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:44.000 total bs hypotheses that like maybe makes sense in a 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:48.080 really eight year old common sense way UM or are 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:53.120 just filled with awesome like um ideas of just basically 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:57.360 our demonstrations of how great humanity can use its mind. Right, 0:07:57.400 --> 0:07:59.920 this is the former, and I'm sorry for tapping on 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:01.880 the table. I know that that's a new habit of mine, 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:06.920 and then it screws things up, but it's it's for emphasis. Yeah. Uh. 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:09.239 As far as the gorilla thing, I can direct people 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:12.480 if you want to cry to the video of Cocoa 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:17.000 the gorilla sign language gorilla. Yeah. She uh. She had 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:19.360 a pet kitten at one point, and it's very cute 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:21.880 and you see this kitten and Cocoa bonding and it's 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:24.600 those videos are the best. Anyway, she accidentally breaks its 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:27.560 has to shoot her in the back of the head. No, no, 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:31.880 Gary Sinise. Actually I think it was a chokehold. Um. 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:34.679 But the cat of course gets out and gets hit 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:37.320 by a car and killed. And they have on tape 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:39.880 the the woman going and telling Cocoa that the kitten 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:44.000 is dead, and Coco I might start crying right now. 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:48.640 Coco starts making the signs for bad and sad and 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:53.240 frown and then cry and like, dude, you gotta see it. 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:55.319 I mean, I'm a weepy guy anyway, but I was 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:58.320 at my desk earlier just like fighting it back. But 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:00.960 then I really encourage you to go look at the video. 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:04.319 Right after that, Cocoa gets a new kitten. Oh yeah, 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:06.520 that'll just make you feel better all over again. Okay, 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:09.000 I'm glad. Is it in like the replace screen? It's 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:10.640 one of the ones that pops up. Is the next thing. 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:12.800 It actually has a pop up while you're watching this, 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:15.040 like click on here to see Cocoa get a new kitten. 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:18.840 But yeah, I mean it looks like Cocoa is very 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:22.760 much emotional. Whether or not Coco is actually crying, and 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:26.080 whether or not animals get emotional is under debate, and 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:30.240 that's a whole other topic in itself. Um, but I 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:33.520 guess the point is is we're we're only kind of 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:36.800 beginning to get a loose grasp on why we cry 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:39.640 and how we cry, and so the research is kind 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:43.559 of um uh insufficient, I guess. But we're just gonna 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:46.440 go through some of the ideas of what's behind crying. 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:49.760 We have something of a good grasp on the physiology 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:52.440 of it. Yeah. And this whole thing, this guy that 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:55.480 that surmised about our ancestors, Yeah, this one that was 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:58.840 so weak. This is BS hypothesis number one. Do you 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:02.880 want to take? Yeah. Dr Paul D. McClean theorized that 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:07.280 our you know, cave ancestors would um, cremate the deceased 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:10.600 become overcome by emotions, and then the smoke would get 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:13.040 in their eyes, which would trigger reflex tears, which we'll 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:16.800 talk about. And um, then all of a sudden they 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:21.520 were just linked forever and crying or death and mourning 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:24.880 and crying, which and that was the birth of emotional tears. 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:27.160 I don't buy that one, any of I don't either, 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:31.680 but it does lead us pretty uh pretty uh segway 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:35.240 into what emotional tears are. Right there. One of three 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:39.000 types of tears that we've sussed out, um, the first 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:43.400 being basil tears, which with or without cocoa you've got 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:47.079 right now. We cry every day. Tend it what five 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:50.160 to announces? Yeah, that's a lot. Yeah, and you were 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:51.839 you aware of that? Well, I didn't know it was 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:55.199 that much. It's almost a bottle of beer. Yeah, it's 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:58.480 a good point. Yeah, that makes me want to cry. 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:00.800 I don't know why. Um yeah, I mean obviously your 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:02.920 eyes would dry out, So that's just your body's uh 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:06.360 taking care of itself by by working up these tears. 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:08.880 And most of that, UM, well, I guess just about 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:13.040 all of the five to ten ounces of basal tears, uh, 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:16.480 that you produce every day. Drain through your sinuses, your 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:20.439 scinus cavity instead of streaming down your cheeks, which you 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:22.800 might get stopped up. They sit and here a running 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:25.560 nose when you cry. But I get stopped up personally, 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:29.040 do you, yeah, like stops up my sinuses, um, my 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:32.720 nose ruins generally? Really? Yeah? Um? Well, what are tears? 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:34.880 I don't think we even said that. Oh, tears are 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:42.720 liquid e secretions of fats, proteins, mucus oil, but for 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:45.920 the most part water um. And depending on the type 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:48.920 of tears, this is very significant. Though, depending on the 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:51.680 type of tears, the composition is going to be different. 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:55.120 So if you look at, um, say, reflex tears, which 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:59.800 are designed to um rid your eye of some sort 0:11:59.840 --> 0:12:04.160 of irritant, right smoke? Onions? Onions? Do you want to 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:07.920 tell everybody how onions work? Yeah? I feel like it's 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:10.800 time that we finally explained that one not step off 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:16.679 the list. Uh. There's an enzyme called lachrymatory factor synthas 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:19.559 and that is released when you cut into the onion, 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:23.439 and then that converts amino acids to sol phenic acid, 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:28.920 and then that sulfenic acid turns into uh, sin roepan, 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:33.719 the theol s oxide, and that is what irritates your 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:37.040 lacrymal glands to cry when you cut an onion. Right, 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:39.480 and mine, really, I think I mentioned this before. Mine 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:43.120 really go hey, whire burns. It's it's pretty bad. So 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:46.240 I got Emily got me those little goggles everywhere. Can 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:49.040 you post a picture of you cutting onions wearing goggles? 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:52.760 I can't. Actually, I'd like we'll not cutting onions. But 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:55.199 I tried them on on Christmas Day when she got them, 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:57.520 same effect. But I'm saying the next time that you 0:12:57.559 --> 0:12:59.920 cut onions wearing these goggles, I'd like to see that. 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:04.920 Um So, yeah, you you also mentioned another important point, 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:07.640 the lacrimal gland. It's in the upper outer region of 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:10.439 your eye, and this is where tears are produced. That 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:15.319 um so, you've got basil tears, you've got reflex tears, 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:17.760 and then you have the emotional tears. The great grand 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:21.319 mystery of humanity and why we cry? Right right? Um 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:24.960 so with with emotional tears. Uh. From what we can 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:28.560 it is a great picture of you wearing goggle. That's 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:32.200 really great. They work too. Um you look like wow, 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:36.120 that's a great I gotta stop right there. Um. But 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:40.120 so with emotional tears, what we suspect is going on 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:45.680 is that the cerebrum, which registers sadness, um says, hey eyes, 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:49.080 uh you know, says hey, endocrine system, you're feeling a 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:53.120 little blue. Why don't you go activate the lacrymal glands 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:57.800 and let's get the crying commenced, release the hormones. Yeah, um, 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:00.480 and uh, I don't think it's any coincidence that you 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:06.559 that you expressed tears at the same time you're expressing emotion, right, 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:09.720 I would agree with that. And that's what you were 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:13.200 kind of talking about earlier, the whole theory of whether 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:15.360 or not having a good cry it makes you feel better. 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:19.520 And you mentioned earlier that the composition of the tears 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:23.880 dippers and they collected let's just call them onion tears 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:25.920 for lack of a better well, we have reflex hears. 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:30.560 They collected onion tears, and they collected sad movie tears. 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:34.400 And uh, I found that the reflex onion tears were 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:37.560 what like ninety eight percent water, whereas the other ones 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:43.200 were chuck full of sad proteins like prolactin, which is 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:47.120 very much involved in the process of um producing breast milk, 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:50.960 hence the name. It's for lactating pro lactin. What else 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:53.240 are you gonna say that other one? Yes, I am chuck. 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:59.400 It's UH. Adreno corta co tropic hormones. Adrenal corte tropic 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:02.640 hormones to UM indicate high levels of stress. So that 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:06.160 makes sense, which is a commonly experienced thing while you're crying. 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:14.760 And then there's lucine and fallen episodes have just turned 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:18.560 into like this parade of me humiliating myself. Now you 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:23.080 did well. Lucine and cafollen, which is an endorphment that 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:26.320 reduces pain and improves moon. Yeah, so that it makes 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:28.440 sense that you would find these in tears when you 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:31.400 might not in emotional tears instead of reflex tears. The 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:35.760 problem is is that not all UM studies who have 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:38.080 looked into this, that have looked into this have found 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:41.880 that crying does make you feel better. There's been plenty 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:45.120 of studies that have found the opposite. Most studies, I 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:48.280 shouldn't say most, but some studies have found UH that 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:51.400 there's no change whatsoever. People don't feel any better or worse. 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:56.040 And one study that required UM I think like like 0:15:56.120 --> 0:16:00.360 twelve hundred. No, there were like twelve hundred account of 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:03.120 crying over like seventy days among like x number of 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:09.560 UM female college students. UM it found that that crying 0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:13.200 was preceded by two days of low mood and proceeded 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:15.280 by two days of low mood. So on either side 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:18.760 of a crying incident, there was two bad days before 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:22.400 and after, so there wasn't necessarily an improved mood. Well, 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:24.320 and one of the studies that you have sent me 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:27.560 earlier kind of gave some reason behind this, which makes 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:31.040 sense to me. UM. One reason might be because laboratory 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:35.560 crying you may not be getting consolation, which might be 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:37.440 what makes you feel better when someone sees you crying 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:39.480 they came over to patch on the back and you know, 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:43.120 buck up, camper. And the other was that it's not 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:46.360 a realistic study. Oh well, the the helplessness factor, which 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:48.120 made a lot of sense to me, Like you're watching 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:53.280 the Sarah McLaughlin uh animals dying thing and a good 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:55.680 cry when that doesn't make you feeling better because animals 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:58.360 are still dying. So there's this helplessness like when you're 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:00.840 watching the sad movie that like I can't these characters. 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:03.200 So a good cry, is it gonna make me feel 0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:06.000 any better? No, but it may in a real world 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:09.560 setting where you're crying and it's cathartic and somebody's making 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:11.480 you feel better and then also explaining to you how 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:14.879 things actually are better, and you're like right. So it's 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:16.560 kind of a tough nut to crack because when you 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:18.240 study something like this, they sit you down in a 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:21.560 lab and make you watch Brian's Song and you know, 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:25.200 I've never seen it. It's a little clinical. Brian's song 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:31.040 is Brian looks very sad? Isn't that John Voight? Now 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:35.600 it was Jimmy Cohn And uh, I can't remember who 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:38.960 played Gayl Sayers, but um, yeah, it was the famous 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:41.720 story of the football player dying of cancer, Gayl Sayers 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:45.240 teammate very sad, you know, speaking of sad and dying. Um, 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:47.439 there's a whole I wish I would have looked it 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:49.560 up ahead of time. I read an article about people 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:52.480 who love these books but you know, like Sweet Valley High. 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:56.120 Imagine if each book was about a different Sweet Valley 0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:59.520 High girl and they were all dying young, but they 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:03.760 were like the brave, like captain of the cheerleading squads, 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:07.639 a student class president, don't ever feel bad for me 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:10.080 kind of gals. But they always died at the end. 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:12.240 And there's like this series of like fifty books of 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:15.439 like young adult fiction that's by this one author and 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:18.760 it's all like dying young. I wonder if the purpose 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:22.480 of those was too, you know, prepare kids for losing 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:27.320 friends young, because that does happen ladies, where they're dying 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:29.880 all over the place. Was it a female author? You know, yes, 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:32.439 I'm interesting. I don't remember that. I'm sure somebody will, right, 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:38.160 and please do um So Japan you want to mention that. Yeah, 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:40.120 I even look this up to verify because it sounds 0:18:40.119 --> 0:18:42.840 a little wacky. But you know, the Japanese, they're always 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:46.119 setting the standard for things like this. They have crying 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:48.320 clubs over there where they do believe that it makes 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:50.720 you feel better, so they'll get together as a group 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:53.879 and watch these sad movies or having read these books 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:56.240 and talk about them just to have a group cry. 0:18:56.480 --> 0:18:58.400 But you also, you just hit something on the head. 0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:01.399 And importently is that they believe that crying makes you 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:05.240 feel better. Apparently it's culturally bound. So yeah, if you're 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:08.119 in a if you live in a society that doesn't 0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:10.280 think crying makes you feel better. Maybe you're kind of 0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:13.439 a whisp for crying. You're less likely to report feeling 0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:15.840 better after crying than somebody who lives in a society 0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:18.520 like Japan where it's supported, yes, that makes sense, or 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:20.800 where people think that crying does make you feel better. 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:25.800 It's like zombies and I cry a lot. I'm a 0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:28.120 very weepy guy. I know you are, and I think 0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:30.359 it said one reason, Uh, we'll go ahead and give 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:32.480 away a secret. One reason they think men might cry 0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:35.560 less because they sweat more. And if crying is a 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:37.879 way to release some of these build up of toxins, 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:41.879 then sweat would do that. But I sweat bs hypothesis, 0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:45.879 I could cry. I've got an overactive bladder. I know. 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:48.800 I've seen you cry, sweat, and pe all at the 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:52.680 same time. Dude, I'm just constantly leaking fluids. I know 0:19:52.840 --> 0:19:55.120 it doesn't help, believe me, because there's always some kind 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:57.399 of fluid right behind it, and there's always another Coco 0:19:57.560 --> 0:20:01.719 video coming up. I've I'm very eye rolly as a result. 0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:06.640 Oh yeah, thank you for that. Um So what else 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:09.359 we have? Well, let's talk about babies. When we start crying, 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:14.520 obviously is when we're a little uh crying newborns, which 0:20:14.560 --> 0:20:17.439 makes sense. I mean, you cry, you need help, you 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:20.720 want to be changed, You're totally you're you're helpless, useless, 0:20:20.760 --> 0:20:23.000 there's nothing you can do, so you cry. I'm hungry 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:26.719 at everybody. Now, I'm sleepy, sleepy. I was looking into this, 0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:31.160 chuck like that still doesn't quite make sense. Why babies cry. 0:20:31.200 --> 0:20:33.600 I mean, we take it for for you know, granted, 0:20:33.640 --> 0:20:35.960 it's just babies cry, it's what they do. But when 0:20:36.000 --> 0:20:38.919 did the first human baby cry? And why did the 0:20:38.920 --> 0:20:41.760 first human baby cry? And I looked into it and 0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:44.280 there was actually this cool study that put up a 0:20:44.320 --> 0:20:47.560 few hypotheses that aren't necessarily be us. They're the very least, 0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:50.680 very interesting of why humans started to cry. And it's 0:20:50.760 --> 0:20:53.960 like based on natural selection, like the first few babies 0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:59.920 that cried were selected one because it reduces infanicide, okay, 0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:04.000 which is apparently very common in early early cultures. It 0:21:04.040 --> 0:21:08.120 reduces yes, and here's why. It emotionally manipulates the parent 0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:10.879 into not just abandoning the baby or leaving the baby 0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:15.880 melicicits sympathy, yes, but it also um basically says, Hey, 0:21:15.960 --> 0:21:18.560 I'm a very healthy, fit baby. You don't want to 0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:20.800 leave me behind. I'm gonna be great at picking berries 0:21:20.800 --> 0:21:24.880 when yes, exactly. Now, if if I were the type 0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:27.160 of baby just abandoned and leave for dead, I may 0:21:27.240 --> 0:21:29.160 just not even be able to get a good cry going. 0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:31.199 So it makes sense a little whimpering cry might not 0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:34.520 be as strong, exactly. So it was that led to 0:21:34.640 --> 0:21:38.639 natural selection of crying in babies, and that's why we 0:21:38.680 --> 0:21:40.879 cry today. At least, that's that makes sense. That's one 0:21:40.880 --> 0:21:43.040 of the better hypotheses I've run across. I was just 0:21:43.080 --> 0:21:47.640 thinking my own hypothesis might be that, you know, back then, 0:21:47.720 --> 0:21:50.240 it's not like the mother was always right over the 0:21:50.280 --> 0:21:52.600 baby like they are today. No, that's not you. The 0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:55.600 opposite is true. Oh really, there were more present. They 0:21:55.680 --> 0:21:59.720 carried him everywhere. Well, then there goes my hypothesis. It's okay, 0:21:59.760 --> 0:22:04.199 we I thought they had just part of science. Okay, no, no, 0:22:04.320 --> 0:22:06.399 I know what you're saying. And actually that kind of 0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:10.600 coincides with the reason why you would cry, because a 0:22:10.640 --> 0:22:14.160 baby that cries is being abandoned and knows it. Right 0:22:14.320 --> 0:22:16.680 when you're away from the mother for a very long time. 0:22:16.760 --> 0:22:20.040 That means Mom's gone. She's like twenty clicks that way 0:22:20.160 --> 0:22:24.879 and not coming back right. That's very sad. Reduces infanticide. 0:22:25.119 --> 0:22:30.000 So babies cry differently as they grow, to communicate different 0:22:30.040 --> 0:22:33.120 things in a in a in tune. Parent will tell 0:22:33.160 --> 0:22:35.440