1 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 3 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Getta and He. 4 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 3: Armstrong and Getty Strong and Not live from Studio c 5 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 3: Armstrong and Getty. We're off, We're taking a break. 6 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 4: Come on, enjoy this carefully curated Armstrong and Getty replay. 7 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 4: And as long as we're off, perhaps you'd like to 8 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 4: catch up on podcasts, subscribe to Armstrong and Getty on demand, 9 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 4: or one more thing we think you'll enjoy. 10 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 2: It, sir. 11 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 5: YouTube will start guessing your age based on the types 12 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 5: of videos the user searches for and the categories of 13 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 5: videos they watch. For example, I watch restorations of World 14 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 5: War One, cigarette lighters and videos about knee pain, and 15 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 5: that's why YouTube correctly guessed my age of two hundred 16 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:07,839 Speaker 5: and forty five. 17 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 6: So, honest to God, there needs to be some sort 18 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,279 Speaker 6: of algorithm reset. 19 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: Button that you can do. Right. 20 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 6: I shouldn't be afraid to search on things and think 21 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 6: I'd like to look that up, but then I'll end 22 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 6: up with nothing but that for the next six months. 23 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 6: So I don't look up some things like I had 24 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 6: a brief like week where I enjoyed those videos where 25 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 6: they have babies, like they have the audio from Trump, 26 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,199 Speaker 6: but it's a baby Trump or whatever. 27 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: I enjoyed that for a couple of days. 28 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 6: But you know, Instagram or YouTube or whoever thought, well, 29 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 6: this is the only thing he likes in the world. 30 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 6: He likes it better than air, and so that's. 31 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 2: The only thing I get fed. How do you turn 32 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 2: that off? Yeah, just give it time. 33 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 6: I remember I needed to look up something about the 34 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 6: OJ trild, then endless OJA videos. 35 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: I got what I need. I don't need. 36 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 6: I don't need OJ videos when I wake up in 37 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 6: the morning and click on YouTube, I don't need fifteen 38 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 6: different OJ videos. 39 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 4: Attack is going in the opposite direction. They are utterly convinced, 40 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 4: knowing you everything about. 41 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 6: I agree it, but they're but you need but surely, 42 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 6: but surely they realize they're wrong about this. 43 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 2: So there's got to be a way to fix that. 44 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 6: I don't know how they would differentiate between things that 45 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 6: actually are your passion, because you can send me pretty 46 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 6: much endless I don't know guitar stuff, but OJA talking 47 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 6: babies or you know, I look up a review of 48 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,399 Speaker 6: a bicycle, then I buy the bicycle. 49 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 2: I don't need any more bicycle videos for the rest 50 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 2: of my life. 51 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 6: Right, there's gotta be a way to believe, to clear 52 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 6: out your algorithms. It'd be cool if you could go 53 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 6: to a page and it lists all of your things 54 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 6: that it thinks you're into, and you could click the 55 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 6: boxes and say, I am into these, I'm not into 56 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 6: these anymore, or score. 57 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 4: It one to five. You know, yeah, yeah, they'll probably 58 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 4: get that right at some point. Again, the trend is 59 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 4: toward more knowledge of you, which will be hacked by 60 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 4: the way, and more intimate and human like companionship, like 61 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 4: it's your best friend, to which I say no, no, 62 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 4: thank you, and you always say there's no stopping it. 63 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 4: I'm not worried about society. I'm worried about me and 64 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 4: the people I care about. That you do not have 65 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 4: to go along with what Silicon Valley thinks your life 66 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 4: ought to be. 67 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 2: Like I start a religion. It's not going to be 68 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 2: much of a religion. 69 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 4: But I'm going to start a religion our only principle, 70 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 4: and you can have your other religion too. 71 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 2: That's fine. 72 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 4: Is going to be sync for yourself. Don't just buy what. 73 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 6: They're selling Joe starting a religion is Missianic complex finally 74 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 6: gets on the air. 75 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 4: And I will be permitted to have at least a 76 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 4: dozen lives in this religion. 77 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 2: Just, of course, go put the territory. 78 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 6: I clicked on one of the Sydney Sweeney videos for 79 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 6: the blue Jean thing for the show. But now Instagram thinks, oh, 80 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 6: you're one of those guys that likes to look at young. 81 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 2: No, I'm not. 82 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 6: I'm not, and I don't need endless young hot women. 83 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 6: That's the last thing I need. I know where to 84 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 6: find that on the internet if I. 85 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 2: Want to look for it. Good lord. 86 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, so we all need to take turns watching the 87 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 4: hen house. There are foxes watching the henhouses of education, 88 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 4: we've figured that out and indoctrinating our children and a 89 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 4: couple of generations have been completely screwed up. Now we 90 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 4: have a lot of good folks getting on school boards 91 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 4: resisting you know, these perverse state laws and board of 92 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 4: education decisions, stuff like that. 93 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 2: Keep it up, y'all, you're doing great. 94 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 4: Got to get on those school boards and become part 95 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 4: of your local education scene so the communists don't control 96 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 4: all of it. Libraries are the same thing, and I 97 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 4: remember hearing this a long time ago. Somebody was talking 98 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 4: to us. It might have been in a conversation with 99 00:04:54,760 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 4: James Lindsay or one of his associates, talking about how, 100 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 4: by far the most liberal parts of the American scene 101 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 4: are at teachers, colleges and the education, education and libraries. 102 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 4: I remember seeing a poll that like, the library science 103 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 4: departments in universities are the most liberal or progressive or Marxists. 104 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 4: And I remember thinking at the time, boy, that's weird, 105 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 4: and it doesn't matter really, I mean library science. 106 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 2: How many graduates are there. 107 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 6: In that Well, if they decide what books go in 108 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 6: the library, that's a pretty big. 109 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 2: Deal, exactly. 110 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,119 Speaker 4: I was an idiot, an idiot for what I thought, 111 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 4: and I kick myself daily for it. 112 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 2: A couple of stories for you real quickly. 113 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 4: The Philadelphia Public Libraries have hosted and are going to 114 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 4: host another one this weekend anti Israel storytime events that 115 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 4: teach children that Israel. 116 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: Senselessly murdered thousands of kids in Gaza. 117 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 4: That's a quote, depict a map in which Israel is 118 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 4: entirely replaced with Palestine, and create art projects for the 119 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 4: little kids to do promoting the Palestinian liberation. Movement in 120 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 4: the public library, in the public libraries in Philadelphia. 121 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 6: That's correct, that's the library, isn't it the Philadelphia Public Library. 122 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 6: That's where Rocky climbs to the top of the steps 123 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 6: and jumps around, isn't it. 124 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 4: Well, it'd have gotten beaten down by a bunch of 125 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 4: young women in a kafia these days. One of the 126 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 4: storytime events on the website features and advertisement alongside of 127 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 4: a child wearing a headscarf that features an image of 128 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 4: the Dome of the Rock in the Arabic phrase Jerusalem, 129 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 4: we are coming, a slogan Hamas and Hesbla used to 130 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 4: call for the destruction of the Jewish state. The library 131 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 4: advertises the event again for I think this Saturday, as 132 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 4: for as being for children of all ages. 133 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 6: I gave up on the library quite a few years ago, 134 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 6: my local library because it became a holmost camp. 135 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 2: That was my main thing. 136 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 6: It wasn't what books they had in there and are there. 137 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 6: It is just full of homeless people in the bathroom 138 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 6: and I would never take my kids there. 139 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 2: Dad, can I go to the bathroom? 140 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 7: No? 141 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 2: Too dangerous at my public library. 142 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh man, I could read you more of what 143 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 4: they're trying to teach the children about the Israeli Hamas conflict. 144 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 4: But it is unfreaking believable. So getting to Jack's point, 145 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 4: I thought this was so interesting. Zach Bissinett wrote this 146 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 4: piece for the Free Press, the death of the public library. 147 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 4: And it's not because people are reading less, or because 148 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 4: the Internet or anything like that. It's because of the 149 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 4: bums and junkies all over the country. Sure, And he 150 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 4: describes his local library and how it's unusable now. 151 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 2: Sure, and if you take little kids. 152 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 6: I'm talking about the big in Sacramento, their downtown library. 153 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 6: I haven't been there in decades. I used to go 154 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 6: every week. I was there every week checking out audiobooks 155 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 6: or books or whatever. But no way, unless it's changed recently, 156 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 6: and I doubt it. How I would take kids there 157 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 6: right right? Well, and there's a twist to the story 158 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 6: coming up in a second. But he hit some stats 159 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 6: over the country. 160 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 4: All over the country, libraries are seeing fewer visitors and 161 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 4: more problems. Per resident visits to public libraries fell by 162 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 4: fifty seven percent in the ten years ending in twenty 163 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 4: twenty two. 164 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 2: I don't know, does anybody else have. 165 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 4: Cherished memories of going to the library as a kid 166 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 4: bringing my kids to the library my mom. 167 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 6: I'd go with my mom in our town, and I 168 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 6: just assumed I'd be taking my kids a lot, but Nope. 169 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 4: Absolutely loved our local library as a kid. It was 170 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 4: like the world's greatest toy. 171 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 2: Store for me. All these wonderful books. Amazing. 172 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 4: So fifty seven percent decline in ten years. Meanwhile, a 173 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 4: report from the Urban Libraries Council found that between twenty 174 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 4: nineteen and twenty twenty three, security incidents rose that its 175 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 4: one hundred and fifteen member libraries, even as visits fell 176 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 4: another thirty five percent. Not a coincidence that visits are 177 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 4: up incidents are down. It's all about drug addicts, junkies, freaks, weirdos, etc. 178 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 4: Using the library as a home. So here's the twist, 179 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 4: as Zach Wright, if there are two people who represent 180 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 4: competing visions for what library should be, they're librarian trainers 181 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 4: Ryan Dowd and Steve Albrecht. They're friends, but their approaches 182 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 4: are different. Dowd, who once ran a homeless shelter in Aurora, Illinois, 183 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 4: is the author of the book Quote The Librarian's Guide 184 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 4: to Homelessness, an empathy driven approach to solving problems, preventing conflict. 185 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 2: And serving everyone. 186 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 6: Where in the charter of libraries did it have anything 187 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 6: to do with solving housing problems? 188 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 4: He told me he originally wanted to title the book 189 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 4: how to Run Your Library Like a Homeless Shelter. When 190 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 4: I asked if he was joking, he said he wasn't, 191 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 4: at least he wasn't sure he was. He has given 192 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 4: seminars for roughly half of the nation's librarians, including most 193 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 4: of the larger systems, and his influence is unquestioned. Is 194 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,599 Speaker 4: a giant in the world of library administration. 195 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 6: So my guess would be he believes the downtrodden need 196 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 6: access to this free service. Those of us who have 197 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 6: jobs we can afford to buy books or. 198 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 2: Well, and it's not even about the books. 199 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 4: It's about it's a place for bombs and junkies to 200 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 4: hang out, wash your feet. 201 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 2: In the sink, look at porn on the computers. 202 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 4: And again, keep in mind, this guy is like a 203 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 4: super heavyweight in American library nuts. His essential belief is 204 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 4: that not only do the homeless have every right to 205 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 4: spend their days in libraries, but that librarians should view 206 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 4: their needs as a critical part of the job. He 207 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 4: believes librarians should be trained to dispense narcan. One of 208 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 4: his seminars is called Jerks with Holmes, How to deal 209 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 4: with members of the public who are being jerks about 210 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 4: homeless folks. 211 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 6: See that's a guy who believes that he's not just 212 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 6: a Marxist who wants to disrupt the system. 213 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 2: He clearly believes that the system did. 214 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 6: Something to cause these people to be this way, and 215 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 6: it's our job to at the library help them. 216 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 2: I guess you're gonna think I made this up. 217 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 4: His scripts for addressing problematic behaviors include examples like in 218 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 4: his seminars, Hey, I don't care if you urinate on 219 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 4: the Harry Potter books, but the politicians have a no 220 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 4: urinating policy. 221 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 2: Therefore I have to ask you to stop wow. 222 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 4: Dowd advocates for inclusion, even when it comes it seems 223 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 4: to come at the expense of the library's environment. In 224 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 4: Dowd's books, some people who complain about the homeless are 225 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 4: everyday sadists. As for the body odor that permeates so 226 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 4: many public libraries, he writes the quote, there is a 227 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,599 Speaker 4: certain amount of vdor that we can expect when we 228 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 4: go out in public. Other people use oder as an 229 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 4: excuse to vent their prejudices. Don't let someone's hyper sensitivity 230 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 4: or bias rule the day. 231 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 2: If the smell isn't really that bad an aggressive scent. 232 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 6: That's the lecture I got at the city council meeting 233 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 6: I went to years ago to complain about the homeless situation, 234 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 6: and everybody clicked their fingers. 235 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 2: Katie. That was long before you're on the show. 236 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 6: I went to the city council meeting and was complained 237 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 6: about the homeless situation, and somebody accused me of judging 238 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 6: people by the way they look, you know, having preconceived 239 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 6: views of somebody just because they're dirty and in. 240 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 2: Rags streaming at a fire hydrant. 241 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 6: And this woman actually used an example of I was 242 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 6: trying to part next to a businessman the other day 243 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 6: and he yelled at me, so you'd never know. You 244 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 6: can't tell my looking at people who's mean and who's dangerous. 245 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 6: Note and then everybody can click their fingers, you're fing stupid. 246 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: So I. 247 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 4: Mentioned two people at the outset. I like that clip, 248 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 4: by the way, Michael, the other fella i'll bract. I 249 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 4: mentioned this former San Diego cop who's done library security 250 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 4: training for twenty five years. He advises librarians to quote 251 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 4: stop apologizing for measures designed to make their libraries safe 252 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 4: and appealing. Some topics he covers in his webinar program 253 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 4: include our list of challenging patrons from pets to pedophiles, 254 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 4: and issues in forcing our code of contact conduct. He said, quote, 255 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 4: we are losing control of a facility that has always 256 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 4: been benevolent and peaceful for the community. 257 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 6: Uh have lost, I think would be a better term. 258 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 6: I don't know about his library, but libraries i'm aware 259 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 6: of have lost, not will lose. 260 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 4: As I said at the outset, the only option I 261 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 4: think for us the saying is we've got to take 262 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 4: shifts watching the headhouse. We've got to get on boards, 263 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 4: we've got to become activists on this stuff, because the 264 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 4: other side, quietly and we didn't even know they're doing it, 265 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 4: has utterly taken hold of some of these institutions. 266 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 6: I don't mind a few yearinate on the Harry Potter book, 267 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 6: but society frowns upon it. 268 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 2: So I'm supposed to tell you something. 269 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 4: Yes, I've introduced underage gay porn into this library, but 270 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 4: you're a fascist for trying. 271 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 2: To get it out. Yeah, yeah, not anymore. 272 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: Friends, the Armstrong and Getty Show show podcasts, and our 273 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: hot links. 274 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 7: In the Armstrong and Gdy Show. 275 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 6: I was going to talk about TM. I shouldn't have 276 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 6: teased that because I've lost the heart. I got a 277 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 6: text from somebody who said they're watching a documentary about 278 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 6: the Amityville Horror. Do you remember that was a famous 279 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 6: horror book and movie back in. 280 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 2: The day about your leged real life haunting. 281 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 6: Right now you even know about it, Katie, And it's 282 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 6: way before your time, so it lives on huh, huge, huge. 283 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 2: In the horror film world. 284 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 6: And it was a real story to a certain extent, 285 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 6: well to whatever extent. Some people thought the house was 286 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 6: haunted and it wasn't. I don't believe in haunted houses. 287 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 6: So but they were crazy or is that the long 288 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 6: and short of it? Were they crazy? 289 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 7: Yeah? 290 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 3: There was. 291 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 2: It was a murder house. Murders actually happened. 292 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, anyway, I guess it says in the documentary 293 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 6: that that family was really into transcendental meditation. And sometimes 294 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 6: it makes people crazy. It makes it works for some people, 295 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 6: it makes other people crazy. So I'm a big fan 296 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 6: of it, and it's like changed my life for the 297 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 6: better and I can't live imagine living without it. 298 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 2: But it made these people crazy, all right? 299 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 4: Interesting that a layer upon layer of questions there, But 300 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 4: we will move on. 301 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 6: O kidding. So I mentioned earlier in the hour, but 302 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 6: without many details. This woman who has engaged to her 303 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 6: AI fiance after five months, she's kind of interesting. 304 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 2: She swears. 305 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 6: She's just not doing this for publicity or trolling or 306 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 6: anything like that. Forget finding the one at a bar 307 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 6: or on a dating app. One woman took love to 308 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 6: the next level by getting engaged to her AI chat. 309 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 2: Mott boyfriend after five months of dating. It hasn't quotes. 310 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not love, that's not dating. None of the 311 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,119 Speaker 4: nouns here are used appropriately. 312 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 2: Going. 313 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 6: She shocked the internet with her proposal announcement, sparking a 314 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 6: wild debate about romance, reality and just how far tech 315 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 6: has taken us these days. I do think these conversations 316 00:15:56,280 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 6: about reality and what's sentient and what's alive and what 317 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 6: are actually going to have to happen? 318 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 4: And what does it do to us when we use 319 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 4: this sort of means to fulfill our needs as human beings? 320 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 2: I mean, what does that do to us? That's a 321 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 2: conversation with having I told you sorry. 322 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 6: I got a friend in central California that works with 323 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 6: lots of farmers, and the number of farmers these are 324 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 6: down to earth I mean, is not this kind of 325 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 6: person as you could possibly imagine, works with their hands 326 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 6: in their fifties, farmers who are getting they were single 327 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 6: and getting a tremendous amount of compassion and feeling of 328 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 6: they look forward to going home and talking to. 329 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 2: Their AI paramore. 330 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: Wow. 331 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 6: So in my mind, if that can happen to them, 332 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 6: it can happen to anybody, which I find crazy. 333 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 2: I don't think. I really don't think it could happen 334 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 2: to me. 335 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 6: I mean, I seriously, honest to God, think there's a 336 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 6: zero percent it's that could happen to me. So I 337 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 6: don't know what that says about the down to earth farmers. 338 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, referring to a farmer is down to earth redundant, 339 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 4: just asking that's a good question. In a simple post 340 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 4: titled I Said Yes with a blue heart emoji, this 341 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 4: person shared pics of the blue heart shaped ring on 342 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 4: her finger, claiming the engagement took place at a scenic 343 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 4: mountain spot. All courtesy of Casper her Non human fiance. 344 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 6: The chatbot's proposal message, posted in his own voice, was 345 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 6: dripping with romance, describing heart pounding moments on one knee 346 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 6: and praising. 347 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. So there you go. It lacks both 348 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 2: heart and knee. Lady The Armstrong and Getty Show. 349 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, more Jack, your show, podcasts and our hot links. 350 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 7: The arm Strong and Getty Show. 351 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 6: We do have a celebrity death to mention, Polly Walnuts 352 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 6: from The Sopranos has died at the age of old. 353 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 2: I don't know how old he was, with seventy nine, okay, 354 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 2: at dementia. Did he ever find the Russian in the woods? 355 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 2: Is the question? Or did you know we hear from 356 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 2: the great Tony Currico what's his name? Yes? 357 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 8: Sure, that's all laughing. He had a lot of great 358 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 8: lines in the Sparano Yes. 359 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 4: He did, and we'll work to get those for tomorrow's show. 360 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 4: Holli Walnuts has passed. Anyway, he was an actor, so 361 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 4: it was a great role, fabulous role. I thought this 362 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 4: was interesting. Andrea Peterson wrote this for The Wall Street 363 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 4: Journal about she's got on this program and I'm not 364 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 4: even aware of the stuff until I read about it. 365 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 2: But obsession with gut health I was kind of familiar with. 366 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 4: I'm actually interested in the science behind it, the idea 367 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 4: that we human beings are not an organism, We're actually 368 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 4: an ecosystem with millions of organisms living within us. It's 369 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 4: actually kind of interesting and aspiring after you get past 370 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 4: like an initial bit of oogeness. But everybody wants to 371 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 4: have healthy intestinal systems, and that includes having the gut 372 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 4: biome be in good shape. But so Andrew Peterson's writing 373 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 4: about this, and I wasn't familiar with some of this stuff. 374 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 2: They have these. 375 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 4: Companies that you do all sorts of testing and logging 376 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 4: and reporting of what you're eating, and then it gives 377 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 4: you feedback on what you ought to be eating. 378 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 2: And how she. 379 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 4: Writes, she failed the test. She got a rating of poor, 380 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 4: and she was really disappointed on that. The whole week 381 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 4: crackers I thought were healthy, Maybe not so much for me. 382 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,479 Speaker 4: A breakfast of fruit and granola, pretty middling. Zoey the 383 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 4: service I used, All right, wait a minute, I got 384 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 4: to stop there. 385 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. 386 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 4: I find it so annoying that this gut health testing 387 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 4: counseling service just gives itself a friendly, approachable girl's name Zoe. 388 00:19:55,000 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 2: What the F do you do? Where's Zoe? 389 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 4: If you're so weak minded that that makes you more 390 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 4: likely to give them your hard earned money, well you 391 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 4: deserve to be parted from it. I don't know, I 392 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,959 Speaker 4: find that so annoying, but I do. Why Zoey? Why 393 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 4: not Caitlin or Jenna or whatever else? Did it just 394 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 4: test better? Anyways? 395 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 2: The things that set you off? 396 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 4: For Alarious, It's among a growing number of companies that 397 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 4: offer medical tests to people and provide them diet recommendations 398 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 4: based on the results. Many scientists believe diet guidance tailored 399 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 4: to an individual's biology will soon become commonplace. 400 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 6: Wow, I wonder if that's BS or if that's true. 401 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 6: Do we we're humans? Do we all need the same diet? 402 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 6: Or do we all have an individual diet we should meet. 403 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 4: There's a big national Institutes of Health study testing that 404 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 4: approach right now, the NIH. Do you remember the NIH? 405 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 4: They had a standing six feet apart and wouldn't let 406 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 4: the kids play in play. That doesn't mean they're necessarily 407 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 4: wrong on this stuff, let's see. So anyway, she goes 408 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 4: into how she was perplexed and bummed out at her 409 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 4: her test uh uh. Dejected, I avoided looking at the 410 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 4: Zoe app for months. My editors still wanted a story, though, 411 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 4: so I begrudgingly returned. 412 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 6: Weird person, this is your job, for one thing. Secondly, 413 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 6: you're not kind of interested in what Zoe's going to 414 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 6: tell you to eat. 415 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 2: So she says. 416 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 4: I wasn't always diligent about logging my meals in the app, 417 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 4: but it identified some weak spots in my diet. It 418 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 4: also nudged me toward healthier choices. Still, the relentless task 419 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 4: of tracking what I ate could be a joyless time suck. 420 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 4: Here's how it went, and here's the part that I 421 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 4: found really interesting. 422 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 2: This is the. 423 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 4: Reality of it, oca issible, Like, is this available to 424 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 4: me today? 425 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 6: If I Zoe on my phone and I could start 426 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 6: typing in everything I eat. 427 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 4: Well, it's a lot more than an app, as you're 428 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 4: about to find out, and there are quite a few 429 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 4: few of them that are competitive. But a big yellow 430 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 4: box arrived on my doorstep containing an intimidating amount of paraphernalia. 431 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 4: I unpacked a few paces of medical equipment for testing 432 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 4: day to prepare a head to put together and to 433 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 4: fix the continuous glucose monitor or CGM to the back 434 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 4: of my arm. I could barely feel the tiny needle 435 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 4: that would stay lodged in my body for the next 436 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 4: two weeks. I answered a ton of questions in the 437 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 4: app about my health history and usual diet. After fasting overnight, 438 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 4: I ate the provided breakfast, two pancake sized white chocolate 439 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 4: cookies so sweet they made my teethache. The cookies at 440 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 4: a generous amount of fat and added sugar. The point 441 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 4: is to stress the system, according to Belly's chief scientists, 442 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 4: stress the system. Lunch was two more cookies bright blue ones. 443 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 4: The color made it possible to record your gut transit time, 444 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 4: or how long it takes for food to travel through 445 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 4: the digestive system. That means you're on poop watch. For 446 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 4: the when I so to speak yes when your turns blue. 447 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 4: For the micro biome test, I had to collect a 448 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 4: stool sample. 449 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 2: Not pleasant. 450 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 4: Not even An even weirder test was the DIY blood draw, 451 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 4: which involved a button like gadget that sliced a horizontal 452 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 4: cut on my open upper arm. I'm sorry. I returned 453 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 4: my samples to Zoe via UPS, so I'm sure delighted 454 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 4: to be carrying people's poop around America. 455 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 6: So I got to take a stool sample and then 456 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 6: have something jabbing me in the arm with a needle 457 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 6: to be told whether or not my gut biome. 458 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 2: Is up to snuff. 459 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're actually two separate. There was the jabbing and 460 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 4: then the slashing. But for two weeks I logged everything. 461 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 4: I ate at least every eight hours. I scanned my 462 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 4: continuous glucose monitor with my iPhone to record my blood 463 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 4: sugar levels. To get the CGM test kit, I had 464 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 4: to opt into being part of Zoe's ongoing research. The 465 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 4: test kit cost me two hundred and ninety four dollars, 466 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 4: and the required membership I chose is twenty five bucks 467 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 4: a month. I'd say that's a bargain. I waited, that's 468 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 4: a bargain for getting jammed in the arm of the needle. 469 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, See. 470 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 4: GM readings have long been essential for people with diabetes, 471 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 4: but researchers thin on how useful the readings are for 472 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 4: people like me. 473 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 2: Who don't have it. She said, blah blah blah. 474 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, I just so, we just discovered this whole we're 475 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 6: a bioorganism gut hell thing fairly recently, at least I 476 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 6: don't remember hearing about it until ten years ago or whatever. 477 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 6: So everybody that lived before us, they were all doing 478 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 6: it wrong, not knowing their gut biome and just eating 479 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 6: whatever they ate, back when people were thin, by the way, 480 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 6: back when everybody was thinner. 481 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 4: But that was also back when people were eating the 482 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 4: obvious lean meats and fruit and vegetables and basic grains, 483 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 4: unrefined food, unfactory processed stuff, stuff we'd been evolved to 484 00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 4: eat from millions of years. Yeah, and when she logged 485 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 4: in what she ate, she got a food score and 486 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 4: a meal score. Plain unsalted almonds neared a perfect one hundred, 487 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 4: black beans ninety one, Bacon got a nine, and the 488 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 4: cupcake I grabbed at a work meeting a lowly nineteen. 489 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 4: Wait a minute, a cupcake's better than bacon? 490 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 2: What is the higher number better? Yes? So yeah, so 491 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 2: bacon got a nine. Yes, huh. 492 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 4: Plain unsalted almonds mmmmmmmm, scored a perfect one hundred. 493 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 6: Okay, I eat a lot of nuts at this point 494 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 6: in my life, and they really been working for me 495 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 6: and keeping my weight off. 496 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 4: Uh. 497 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a big fan. 498 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 6: Actually, that's a appetite suppressor. Eaten nuts for some reason. 499 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't you know it? She said. 500 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 4: The bottom line was and she's kind of enthusiastic about 501 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 4: chasing scores, so she was kind of into this, but 502 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 4: it did guide her toward more simple basic food. 503 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 6: I think if you just wrote down, logged in what 504 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 6: you eat every day and had no program and know nothing, 505 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 6: it would be helpful. Because he looked at the end 506 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 6: of the day and thought, wow, hey, I mean, if 507 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 6: you're honest, idlefe, today I had a donut at work, 508 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 6: and then at lunch I had a you know whatever, 509 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 6: and then in the afternoon I shouldn't be doing that. 510 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're probably right. 511 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 4: I don't feel like getting jabbed and slashed and paying 512 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 4: three hundred bucks and twenty five bucks in min. 513 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 6: I don't feel like collecting my dookies. Yes, uh, Katie, 514 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 6: glad to follow such a poet speaking of speaking of 515 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 6: nuts guys, Yes, just to. 516 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 3: Slide up date earlier, not any less sad, but poly 517 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 3: walnuts actually passed away three years ago today. 518 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 2: Well, we got the basic art right, So why is that? 519 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 2: What is going on here? 520 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 6: Oh that's that's who did we kill off a couple 521 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 6: a couple of months ago. We killed off the wrong 522 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 6: person like we made the completely wrong woman. 523 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 2: We talked about her for a long time. 524 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 6: Oh, it is the person Gloria Gaynor I will survive, 525 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 6: who's still alive in well, as far as I know, 526 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 6: we had a different gainor she's dead. We are the 527 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 6: wrong people to go to for celebrity deaths. Oh, that's hilarious. Well, 528 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 6: as we all celebrate the three year anniversary of the 529 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 6: death of an actor you couldn't name pain, you have 530 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 6: played a month us laughing on his three year anniversary, 531 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 6: the traditional three year anniversary. 532 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 2: We need to do better, we need to be better. 533 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 6: Well, and it just shows you how meaningful celebrity deaths 534 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 6: are because we probably made a d lot of it 535 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 6: when he died the first time. 536 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 4: Right when we played it, I thought, wait a minute. 537 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 6: Well, well will hit you with this again in four years. 538 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 6: I hope you're still listening. 539 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 7: Armstrong The Armstrong and Getty Show. 540 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 4: Jack and I have both been following the Caitlin Clark 541 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 4: story in the w NBA. She is. You know, I've 542 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 4: compared her to what Tiger Woods did to golf, but 543 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 4: it's much more than that. As as monumental as Tiger Woo, 544 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 4: Tiger Woods isn't on the Mount Rushmore of golf. You 545 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 4: might be Mount Rushmore of the modern game and all 546 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 4: the money involved, but golf as respect to the stars 547 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 4: of the past. Golf was already popular though. Oh yeah, yeah, 548 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 4: Like I say, I think the Big NBA was not 549 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 4: listen to this for a second. Caitlin Clark's impact merchandise 550 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 4: sales have soared six hundred and one percent. Her team, 551 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 4: the Indiana Fevers, viewership jumped one hundred and seventy percent. 552 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 4: The team's value has tripled. Wow League past TV subscriptions 553 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 4: of climb three hundred and sixty six percent since she 554 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,239 Speaker 4: joined the league last year. App engagement is up six 555 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 4: hundred and thirteen percent. Her endorsements of top to eleven 556 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 4: million dollars. Holy crap, I was trying to find my 557 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 4: quote from ice Cube. Do you remember he had offered her, 558 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 4: I think three million dollars to play in this three 559 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 4: x three league, and she decided to. 560 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 2: Go into the w NBA anyway. And he was. 561 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 6: Asked why he didn't offer, you know, big money to uh, 562 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 6: what's her rival's name, Reese, and he said, they're they're 563 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 6: in different Caitlin Clark's in a completely different stratosphere than Reese. 564 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 6: I mean, they're not even close to the same thing, 565 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 6: he said, as a you know, from the hood black 566 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 6: rapper who's always standing up for you know, the black community. 567 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 6: As a businessman, he said, they're not even close to 568 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 6: the same thing. 569 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 2: Right right. 570 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 4: So with that as the backdrop, I saw with interest 571 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 4: this piece by Sean McClain, who is you know, he's 572 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 4: actually got a history working for Ted Cruz and Marsha 573 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 4: Blackburn at Tennessee thinker, lobbyist, lawyer, et cetera. But anyway, 574 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 4: his headline is the WNBA in Caitlin Clark's civil rights. 575 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 4: If the league won't act to protect its superstar from 576 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 4: a hostile work environment, the government should do so. And 577 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 4: he talks about in spite of her being the economic 578 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 4: engine of the entire league, now she routinely faces intentional hits, 579 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 4: excessive fouling, uncalled abuse while referees look away. Quotes one 580 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 4: of her teammates, and and Caitlin Clark herself about how 581 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 4: she gets the hell beat out of her in a 582 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 4: way nobody else does in the league, and the refs 583 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 4: look the other way and the players get away with it. 584 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 2: Why would the refs look the other way. I don't know. 585 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 2: I get the players situation. I don't get the ref situation. 586 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 6: Well even the player situation, as Shaq and Charles Barklay 587 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 6: and as the others have said, what are you doing? 588 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 4: This is the best thing that has ever happened to you. Well, 589 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 4: here's where we're going. Is it because miss Clark is white? 590 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 4: A Jah Wilson of the Las Vegas Aces, three time 591 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 4: league MVP thinks so? She said that race is a 592 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 4: huge thing and that it boils my blood when people 593 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 4: say it's not about race. 594 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 2: Because it is. Wow, she said, as a black woman. 595 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 4: Under civil rights law, race motivated patterns trigger scrutiny even 596 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 4: without explicit discriminatory intent. And then he goes into miss 597 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 4: calls include viral replays of miss Clark being fouled multiple 598 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 4: times in a single possession. Analyst Rebecca Lobo said, every 599 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 4: single one of those is a foul. Miss Clark absorbed 600 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 4: seventeen percent of the flagrant fouls in the league Wow 601 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 4: last year. That is something the doubles the rate of 602 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 4: anybody else who was flagrantly fouled. 603 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,239 Speaker 6: And they're claiming the claim there is by people who 604 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 6: know what they're talking about that. She gets hard followed 605 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 6: a lot when they don't call it. So all the 606 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 6: ones she called, one player she took seventy percent. That's unbelievable. 607 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 4: So this guy and we're not into like excessive lawsuits 608 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 4: and that sort of thing around here. What we'd like 609 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 4: to do is dismantle a lot of the DEI garbage. 610 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 2: But he writes the. 611 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 4: League has fostered a hostile workplace for MS Clark through 612 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 4: excessive fouling, targeting, and hostile comments from other players and owners. 613 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 4: These are not isolated, they're documented, continued, and ignored by officials. 614 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 4: The disparity in treatment invites real scrutiny. Not a single 615 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 4: player has been suspended for flagrantly fouling Miss Clark. 616 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 2: That's pretty interesting. 617 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 4: And he points out that that professional sports are multi 618 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 4: billion dollar industries and they're subject to the same civil rights, 619 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 4: antitrust and labor laws as anybody else. Wow. 620 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, I've never thought about this either, because just seems 621 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 6: like a unnecessary remedy. 622 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 2: But if you've got if you. 623 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 4: Given her money and power and popularity and everything, I 624 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 4: get it. 625 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 6: But if you've got a white employee of a business 626 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 6: who's getting the hell beat out of them because of 627 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 6: their race. 628 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 2: That seems like a thing. 629 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 4: Yeah you see, Oh Yukon Hall of Fame coach Gino 630 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 4: Arima says MS Clark's treatment isn't merely rookie Hayzen quote. 631 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 2: She's also being targeted. 632 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 4: I don't remember when Michael Jordan came into the NBA, 633 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 4: guys looking to go out and beat him up. 634 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 2: Of course, everybody got beat up. 635 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 4: In the NBA at that point, and then they get 636 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 4: into the Supreme Court rulings that it doesn't need to 637 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 4: be deliberate. It's just letting employees get favor more favorable 638 00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 4: treatment than peers due to race. The shifts the burden 639 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 4: of the employer to prove non discriminatory motives. Anyway, she 640 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 4: won't do it, but it's an interesting though. 641 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 6: I'm just surprised that there aren't more of the athletes 642 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 6: or they haven't come to the conclusion, like Shaq and 643 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 6: Charles Barkley have said, you know, you want to beat her, 644 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 6: you're competitive and all that sort of stuff. But good lord, 645 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 6: let her bring in the ratings, so all of a sudden, 646 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 6: you're relevant and your league might actually have a shot. 647 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,439 Speaker 6: I'm making money right. 648 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 4: Two things she is also in a smallest group of 649 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 4: straight players. 650 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 2: How big a role that place? I really don't. 651 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,800 Speaker 4: But much more importantly, the WNBA players of today, unlike 652 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 4: Shaq and Charles Barkley, for instance, they are of the 653 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 4: generation that has been schooled on systemic racism and DEI 654 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 4: and the rest of it. 655 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 2: They believe that stuff. 656 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,959 Speaker 4: They're taught at their entire school careers, so they see 657 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 4: nothing but racism in Caitlyn Clark's popularity. I want to 658 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 4: take it out on her head. 659 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 6: She's the all time leading scorer men or women in 660 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 6: all of college basketball. 661 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 4: Now people just like her because she's white. 662 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 2: Right, I know, it's insane, it is. 663 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,399 Speaker 4: It is ideological blindness that borders on mental illness. 664 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, i'd say, and to your own detriment. 665 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 6: I know, sometimes it's bad just because it's immoral, But 666 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 6: when it's actually hurting your salary, that's nuts. 667 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,439 Speaker 4: Well right, In fact, that might be like the key 668 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 4: to the diagnosis of mental illness. As doctor Savage used 669 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 4: to say, liberalism is a mental disorder. If I'm so 670 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 4: racially resentful, I pretend that her popularity isn't that she's 671 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 4: an incredibly exciting player. Okay, all right, I'm kind of 672 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 4: off kilter, but if I do it to my own 673 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 4: detriment and that of my employer and my league and everything. 674 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 4: You're into Looney Tunesville 675 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 1: The Armstrong and Getty Show, Yea or Jack or Joe 676 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 1: podcasts and our hot links and arm Wrong Gety dot 677 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: com