1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. We learn that Sean Combs 2 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: Ditty's sex victims enduring so much paddle board out into 3 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: the ocean during a storm to escape further beatings and 4 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: rapes from Sean Combs, and they can see him at 5 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: a distance, pacing back and forth and back and forth 6 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: like a tiger on the beach. Good evening. I'm Nancy Grace. 7 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: This is Crime Stories. I want to thank you for 8 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: being with us. 9 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: Didty was menacing, threatening, intimidating. 10 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 3: Because of a power need, three guns across his lap. 11 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: He gets angry and says, quote, I should kill you, and. 12 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 3: He told his manager, I don't like this back and forth. 13 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: I prefer guns. 14 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 4: Because that's what criminal enterprise bosses do. 15 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: He needs to go under the jail, joining me in 16 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: all Star panel to make sense of what we are learning. 17 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: As the testimony pours from the witness stand. That's right, 18 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: Sean Comb's aka Ditty aka Puff aka Puff Daddy aka 19 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: Love It goes on and on in court battling a 20 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: multi count federal indamond, including claims charges of sex trafficking. 21 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: Bombshells pouring from the witness stand on the stand right 22 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: now known only as Mia. Her passport has been shown 23 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: to the jury, so they know her real name, but 24 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,559 Speaker 1: she is in such fear she doesn't want her name 25 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: out there. No one else is allowed to say her 26 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 1: name straight out to Kila Brantley joining us investigative reporter 27 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: reporter at large dailymail dot com. She is the host 28 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: of the wildly popular Daily Mail podcast The Trial of 29 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: Ditty Kella. Thank you for being with us. What do 30 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: you make of MIA's testimony today? Yeah, thank you for 31 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: having me, Nancy. So, Mia has taken the stand. 32 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 5: We know that she was his assistant, working for him 33 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 5: from twenty nine to twenty seventeen. And one of the 34 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 5: most shocking things I think that she said was that 35 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 5: he sexually assaulted her multiple times. And not only that, 36 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 5: is that it was very sporadic. There wasn't any you know, 37 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 5: rhythm to when he would come and you know, sexually 38 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 5: assault her. But she really described some awful, awful behavior, 39 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 5: described a toxic work environment, and she had to stay 40 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 5: awake for five days at a time, was not allowed 41 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 5: to sleep, had to be on call twenty four to seven, 42 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 5: and wasn't even allowed to lock her bedroom door. 43 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, I want to follow up on that. 44 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 1: Sidney Sumner joining US Crime Stories investigative reporter who has 45 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: been covering the child since the very beginning and before Sydney. 46 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: I want to follow up on what Cala Brantley from 47 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: Daily mil just said. So Diddy and his mansions would 48 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: not allow women to lock the door. 49 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 6: Explain what he had testified to was that employees were 50 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 6: not allowed to leave his property without his express permission, 51 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 6: so they frequently stayed in staff quarters at his mansions, 52 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 6: whether it be in La or Miami, and Colmes always 53 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 6: instructed them to not lock the doors because it was 54 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 6: his house. He was like, you cannot lock a door 55 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 6: in my own home. 56 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: You know, I want to go to doctor Bethany Marshall 57 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: joining US. I need a shrink big time. Doctor Bethany 58 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: Marshall renounced Psychoanalysts, joining us out of LA. She's the 59 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: author of deal Breakers. You can find out on Amazon. 60 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: She is starring on Peacock right now. She's at doctor 61 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: Bethanymarshall dot com. And I heard Sidney Sumner reporting and 62 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: Kila Brantley reporting about how he refused to let females 63 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: and female staffers Cassie included lock their bedroom doors in 64 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: his mansion. Can you imagine After Mia was allegedly raped 65 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: the first time, she kept working there and was not 66 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: allowed to lock her door and just lay there in 67 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: terror at. 68 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 2: Nine you know, Nancy. She also was never allowed out 69 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: of his eyesight. She wasn't allowed to sleep. One time 70 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 2: she was on her mestraal cycle and blood was dripping 71 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 2: down her leg and he would not even let her 72 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: go to the bathroom. 73 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 7: So basically he set the stage for like a total 74 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 7: raping environment by not letting them lock their doors and 75 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 7: so sadly, in MIA's testimony, she goes through all the 76 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 7: things she told herself to rationalize and justify the abuse 77 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 7: because she was so young, just a very young woman. 78 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 7: She thought that maybe she was being tested for whether 79 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 7: or not she would be a good assistant, or maybe 80 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 7: p did he didn't really mean to rape her, or 81 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 7: maybe he didn't remember it or even know that he 82 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 7: raped her because he had had so much to drink, 83 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 7: and on one occasion, his fortieth birthday party, he supplied 84 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 7: her with two shots of alcohol, asked everybody else to. 85 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: Leave the room. 86 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 2: I believe they were in the kitchen. She drank the 87 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: two shots, felt woozy, woke up in his bed and 88 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 2: realized that she had been raped. So this, to me, 89 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,679 Speaker 2: it's not even just sexual assault. This is just plain 90 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 2: old slavery, Nancy. These people are enslaved in his house, 91 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: They're not allowed to shut their doors, and each rape 92 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 2: is one more attempt at dominance and control over them. 93 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: You know, Dr Bethany, you said something that I think 94 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: a lot of people that haven't studied it or haven't 95 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: been victims themselves. It's hard to understand, and there's no 96 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 1: reason they should understand. I'm glad they don't understand, because 97 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: if they did, that might mean that violent crime has 98 00:05:55,120 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: touched their lives. But rape victims think, oh did I 99 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 1: encourage that was? Did? Is that my fault? Did I 100 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: flirt with him? Did he misread what I said? Or oh, 101 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: he's drunk. We already see Shawn Combs. Did he claiming 102 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: he's bipolar? That's new, Nobody heard that before that. He 103 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: had substance abuse problems, drugs, alcohol that made him act out, 104 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: in other words, rape and beat people. Did she think, oh, Okay, 105 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: he's drunk, He's not going to do that again. I'm 106 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,119 Speaker 1: just not going to say anything. I'll lose my job, 107 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: I'll be blackballed. They rationalize what happened, and I think 108 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: part of it and I'm not a shrink. You're the 109 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: shrink is because they don't want to admit to themselves. 110 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: I was just raped. Killa Brantley joining us from Daily Mail. 111 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: She's the star of podcast the Trial of Did He Kla? 112 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: You just heard doctor Bethany describing what I think was 113 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: MIA's first rape, alleged rape by Shawn Combs. What was 114 00:06:55,560 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: her exact position. I've heard her described as being and assistant, 115 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: but she had a lot of duties as just a 116 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: measly assistant. 117 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 5: Oh, absolutely, Nancy, I mean you talk about a toxic workplace, 118 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:14,239 Speaker 5: this is completely next level. One of her tasks, she said, 119 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 5: was to crack Sean Combs's knuckles if he was writing 120 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 5: too much, and it was anything from doing that. 121 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: Oh, I hold on, Caleb Brantley White, there must be 122 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: something wrong with my earpace, because I swear I think 123 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: you just said one of her jobs is to crack 124 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: Sean comes knuckles for him, and that can't possibly be right. Okay, 125 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: what did you say? 126 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 5: Yes, so her job was to crack his knuckles for him, 127 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 5: as if he couldn't do it. 128 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 6: Himself. 129 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 5: But another one that was really disturbing was that she 130 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 5: would have to clean up after what she described as 131 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 5: a nightmare freak off. 132 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 6: So you can only. 133 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 5: Imagine what the hotel room, what the bedroom looked like, 134 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 5: and before the cleaners came in and then potentially you know, 135 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 5: saw things that they shouldn't have and then reported that 136 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 5: back to the papers. She would have to go in 137 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 5: and clean up what she said was oils, stains, blood 138 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 5: even and so as an assistant, it ranged from you know, 139 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 5: small tasks to huge ones to things that you wouldn't 140 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 5: even think of. 141 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: Well, you're right, Caleb Brantley, I would never have thought 142 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: that King Colmb's had a nail, had a knuckle cracker. 143 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: That's new, okay, And I want to thank you for 144 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: putting that mental image up here, okay, because that's never 145 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: going to go away. Just like that video that we 146 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: dug up of him getting a facial, He's got all 147 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: these people working on his body, facial, the arms, the legs, 148 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: getting his feet done. To me, it looked like he 149 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: was getting facial on his feet. So now he has 150 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: a royal knuckle cracker. Okay. That said Simmy Summer joining 151 00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: me Crime Stories investigative reporter. I know that she's titled 152 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: as an assistant, but she had some pretty heavy duty 153 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: responsibilities in addition to all that knuckle cracking. All of 154 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: comes as social media presence. That's a lot liaison with 155 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 1: Hollywood daily routine, keeping him on schedule, protect him at 156 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: all times in all caps, staying in his eyesight. What what? 157 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a very odd requirement, but that was something 158 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 6: that Comb's demanded. If Mia was not in his eyesight 159 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 6: while she was working, he apparently had no idea what 160 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 6: she was doing. So that list that you're reading came 161 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 6: from when Combe's aingerly question, what do you do all day? 162 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 6: So she wrote to another employee, here are all the 163 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 6: things that I do. I'm with him from the moment 164 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 6: he wakes up till the moment he falls asleep and 165 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 6: doing a billion tasks at one time. I do one 166 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 6: thing and then he yelled at me that I'm not 167 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 6: doing another while I'm doing something else. So this was 168 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 6: kind of a be all the things that I do 169 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 6: every single day, it's a lot. I'm not doing nothing. 170 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: Also, I say that one of her duties caler Brantley 171 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: was anticipating his needs, whims and moods. That's still what 172 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: does that mean? 173 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 5: You talk about horrible bosses and micromanaging. This is completely 174 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 5: on a whole other level. So anticipating his needs is 175 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 5: basically asking her to be a mind reader and to 176 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 5: know what he wants, and to really know him so 177 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 5: well and so intimately that she can just anticipate anything 178 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 5: that he could possibly want to really try to keep 179 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 5: herself safe and keep him from blowing up. 180 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: Her real title, as I understand it, Kili Brantley is 181 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: with Revolt Films Director of Development and Acquisition. 182 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, she held that position at Revolt TV, which of 183 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 5: course was Ditty's company, but clearly her duties went far 184 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 5: beyond that, and far beyond that of a personal assistant. 185 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 5: I honestly don't know what job would have stay in 186 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 5: someone's eyesight as a as a duty. 187 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: Straight out to the Federal Courthouse in Manhattan, standing by 188 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: investigative reporter Lauren Column, star of Pop Crime TV, Lauren, 189 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: what happened in court today? 190 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 3: Yes, Mia, who is Ditty's former assistant and a director 191 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 3: of development at Revolt TV, also Cassie's very good friend. 192 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 3: She said they were like sisters and they still are. 193 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 3: She finished her direct testimony today and then we started 194 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 3: the cross examination with Brian Steele. What she said towards 195 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 3: the end of her testimony I thought. 196 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: Was really really chilling. 197 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 3: She described, after Cassie's twenty twenty three lawsuit dropped, she 198 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 3: started getting text messages from Ditty's former security d Rock. Now, 199 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 3: she testified that Dee Rock didn't work for Ditty in 200 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 3: twenty twenty three anymore, but she knew that he had 201 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 3: landed in Miami and said that he was going to 202 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 3: take care of something in Miami that was pertaining to 203 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 3: Ditty's son. So again this is a few days after 204 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 3: cassie lawsuit dropped, he called Mia. He said he wanted 205 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 3: to talk to her. Said, oh, you know, this stuff 206 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 3: with Puff is crazy. Cassie and Puff were just fought 207 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 3: like a regular couple. And Mia described being very alarmed 208 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 3: because she thought to herself, look, I want no part 209 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 3: of this. And she was confused. She said, you know, 210 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 3: dee Rock was there. He witnessed a lot of this. 211 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 3: So Dee Rock tried multiple times to get in touch 212 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 3: with her. And then during Brian Steele's cross examination, he 213 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 3: started by giving or the defense started by giving the 214 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 3: jury binders and Inside those those binders were social media posts, 215 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 3: various social media posts from Mia throughout the years, you know, 216 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 3: thanking him for everything, calling him her best friend. And 217 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 3: then Mia would respond by saying, yeah, I you know, 218 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 3: that's kind of saying that's trauma. And it was clear 219 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 3: to me that she had been through therapy because she 220 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 3: referenced her therapist, she referenced being a survivor, and she 221 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 3: would say things like, you know, I will leave this 222 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 3: up to the experts. Additionally, they pointed out some birthday 223 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 3: posts that she made for Diddy, and the birthday was 224 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 3: significant November fourth, because she told us during her direct testimony, 225 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 3: this was one of the first times that he had 226 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 3: allegedly sexually assaulted her. So Brian Steele kept bringing up, well, 227 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 3: this was a really significant day for you in terms 228 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 3: of trauma, but you continue to post year after year 229 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 3: these loving birthday messages, you know, even though this day 230 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 3: doesn't really signify anything great that happened to you. So 231 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 3: that was the extent of what we saw today. And 232 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,839 Speaker 3: I believe her cross examination may go until Monday. 233 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: And Lauren Conlin, they have saved Brian's steel for the 234 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: cross examination of a very important win is Mia not 235 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: her real name on the stand. Tell me about his 236 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: demeanor as he cross examined Maya today. 237 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 3: Yes, Steele, he has great pacing. He continues to move 238 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 3: things along. He's very polite to the judge and and 239 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 3: with and he's always polite to the judge by the way, 240 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 3: I think he's one of the most well spoken defense 241 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 3: attorneys that I've seen in a very long time. Sorry, 242 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 3: you know what, I'm sorry I said that that was 243 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 3: kind of rude to the other ones. 244 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I. 245 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 8: Didn't mean that. 246 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 3: You'll probably cut that, Okay, yes, thank you. 247 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 8: Let me think. 248 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 3: Brian Steel's demeanor towards Mia is stern, but definitely not 249 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 3: even close to badgering. He's really just reiterating what we 250 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 3: are seeing and a lot of these images, and he's 251 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 3: having her read her own words, and it seems like 252 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 3: he's just trying to understand where or what her mindset 253 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 3: was when she was posting these posts, and you know, 254 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 3: when she was saying that she loved him but also 255 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 3: felt traumatized by him, and by the way, MEA's response 256 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 3: to a lot of that also was the fact that 257 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 3: we're seeing these pictures on Instagram and Instagram at one 258 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 3: point was a place really where everybody seemed to lie 259 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 3: about their life, wanted everyone to think that their life 260 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 3: was so great. And I think a lot of people 261 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 3: could could relate to that. But overall, Brian Steele, I 262 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 3: think he's doing a good job. Again, He's definitely got 263 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 3: to be careful. I think that there's a very fine 264 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 3: line that he really can't cross so he doesn't come 265 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 3: off as insensitive to the jury or he doesn't come 266 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 3: off as a bully. So he's got to be careful. 267 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: But so far, so good. He always has somebody else 268 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: do his dirty work. He has his minions do everything. 269 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 2: They've been known as dirty did He disciples. I am 270 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 2: not kidding when I use dirty Diddy. 271 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 4: They order their little minions to do what they want, 272 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 4: and it's his power that controlled them. 273 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 2: They are terrified of him. 274 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: Because of intimidation, because of a power need. We are 275 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: learning from the witness stand today. Mia not her real name, 276 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: on the stand describing an incident where she had another 277 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: victim go out on a paddle board a peddle board 278 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: out into the ocean in a storm to escape fur 279 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: their beatings and rapes. When Sean comes, as he paces 280 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: the beach and they can see him like a tiger 281 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: waiting on them to come back. Before I get to that, 282 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: I want to go to Brian Fitzgibbons, Special Guests joining 283 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: US Director of Operations usp A nationwide Security. He leads 284 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: a team of investigators. You can find him at uspasecurity 285 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: dot com. Brian, I want to talk to you about 286 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: as I'm calling them, minions. All right now, Shortly we're 287 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: going to hear from Troy Slayton, veteran defense attorney, and 288 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: he's going to try to tear down everything you and 289 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 1: I are about to say, just like Shawan Combs's defense 290 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: is going to do. But Brian, minions, it's important. It's 291 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: important everything that Mia is saying that she was forced 292 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 1: to do or coerced to do. At one point somebody 293 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: asked her on the stand, well why didn't you say no? 294 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: She said, I was afraid to say no about making 295 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: him a sandwich, much less argue with him about a 296 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: rape or anything else he told me to do. I mean, 297 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: come on, talk about Mina's He even had a royal 298 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: knuckle cracker. As that said, fitz Gibbons, think about it. 299 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: The reason the menings aren't important is because they did 300 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: his bidding and he was their boss. He ran bad 301 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: Boy Records enterprises, and he used his employees to commit crimes. 302 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: Specifically with you, I'm talking about Frank Black, a pseudonym, 303 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: a fake name that comes with forces employees to go 304 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: get there's one of them right there, prescriptions under fake names. 305 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: That's a crime, and he used his employee to do. 306 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 4: It, absolutely, Nancy. And what you're seeing here is the 307 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 4: scope of this investigation and the scale of the number 308 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 4: of people within Ditty's organization that they're bringing up onto 309 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 4: the stand, and it's painting a picture and laying a 310 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 4: foundation for the jury for this racketeering conspiracy charge. So 311 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 4: you're seeing what's delegated, What activities are these folks are 312 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 4: carrying out on Ditty's behalf, and the fear that they 313 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 4: have should they not carry this out. 314 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: These orders out to his specifications. Caleb Brantley joining us 315 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: from DLA Mail, star of the Trial of Ditty podcast. 316 00:18:55,480 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: I've learned well, I've her reports that Capricorn Clark was 317 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: shredded on Cross because at one point, after all the abuse, 318 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: she went back and tried to get her job back. 319 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: Now I've learned that she is the mom of an 320 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: autistic teen boy that has to have special schools and 321 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: has to have around the clock care. If she's not there, 322 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: that ain't gonna pay for itself. 323 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 8: Right. 324 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: She needed that job. She needed not to be blackballed 325 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: in the industry, exactly. 326 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 5: And that's exactly what we're hearing from Mia is that 327 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 5: she felt that Ditty's quote authority was above the police. 328 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 5: And like you said, Capricorn, Clark was a working mom. 329 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 6: She needed this job. 330 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 5: If you're black bed in the industry by someone as 331 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 5: powerful as Ditty, you will never find a job in 332 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 5: Hollywood again. And what I think is really interesting Cassie 333 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 5: was asked this, a previous assistant was asked this, and 334 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 5: I believe Deontay Nash said this on the stand, is 335 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 5: that none of them hate Diddy, that they don't have 336 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 5: any hate for him. And I think what that is 337 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 5: a testament to is kind of you know, I'm no psychologist, 338 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 5: but that Stockholm syndrome feeling that even though someone may. 339 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: Have what you're so kind and gracious, it's I don't 340 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 1: hate Diddy. I hold him in high regard in case 341 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: he gets out of jail. Yeah, exactly right, It's to 342 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 1: saying I'm here under subpoena. I don't want to testify 343 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: against you. Man. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a founder 344 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: and director of Len's Warriors, committed to ending sex trafficking 345 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: and abuse of girls and women. You know, this story 346 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: is as old as time. Women who are willing to 347 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: do anything, put up with anything to support their child, 348 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: to hold onto their house, else to hold onto their job. 349 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: I mean the way they cross examined Capricorn Clark, and 350 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 1: I dread, you know, I've been dreading throughout the day. 351 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: I dreaded when Mia would be subjected to cross exam, 352 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: which you know happened. But Capricorn Clark was cross exammed 353 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 1: over Well, you went back, You crawled back and try 354 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: to get a job, didn't you. They didn't mention anything 355 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:30,239 Speaker 1: about her having to support her autistic son, about the 356 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: around the clock care that requires while she's at work. 357 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a whole job in itself. You know, 358 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: my ninety three year old mom lives with me, and 359 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: when I'm at work, somebody's with her, and I'm constantly 360 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: juggling who's going to be here, Who's going to take 361 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,719 Speaker 1: care of mom? Right, She's got a young teen boy 362 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: that she has to support. She would do anything, Lynn, Yeah. 363 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 2: Moms will do anything to put food on the table, 364 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 2: to get medical care for their kids, to take care 365 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 2: of their We have to remember the public has to 366 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 2: be educated. That's why I'm so happy we are actually 367 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,479 Speaker 2: talking about these issues in the media in the public. Nancy, 368 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 2: you know, when it comes down to being desperate and 369 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 2: really desperate and also being part of I'm going to 370 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 2: use the word brainwashed. When you've been involved in something 371 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 2: like this, you will do anything, and if you don't 372 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 2: have a job, you will go back to that job, 373 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 2: even if it's abusive. We deal with the warriors with 374 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 2: stories like this all the time. The women don't have 375 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 2: anywhere to go, they go back to that abuser. But 376 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 2: I really want to get real here about Triple D. 377 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 2: I like to call him dirty Diddy, degenerate, I'm I'm 378 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 2: you know, he's he has a lot of characteristics of 379 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 2: a pimp, of a trafficker. Force brought coercion is the 380 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 2: definition of human trafficking. So he's got sex trafficking charges. 381 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,719 Speaker 2: But I'm hearing about it's like forced labor, forced into sex. 382 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 2: So I'm hoping, I'm praying because my heart is aching 383 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 2: hearing about me today and what she's gone through. 384 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: I have heard this story a thousand. 385 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 2: Plus times, Okay, that this can really be laying the 386 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 2: groundwork for a criminal enterprise, and that those sex trafficking 387 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 2: charges can stick. We need accountability and this monster must 388 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 2: be held accountable. 389 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: To doctor Bethany Marshall, doctor Bethany Mia, not her real name, 390 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: I believe, was very meek and mild on the stand 391 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: and I could see her not fighting back and rationalizing 392 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: and staying in during three rapes, thinking she was going 393 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: to get black balled in the business and she'd never 394 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: work again. That whole thing. It's so common, and each 395 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 1: one of these women that we're hearing from had a 396 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: lot to lose. Cassie Ventira had her whole career. She 397 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: wanted to be a star, a singer, and she's talented, 398 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: regardless of what everybody else is saying about her. You 399 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 1: have Capricorn Clark, who needed to support that son. Now 400 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: you've got Mia starting her job right, starting out in 401 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: the business. She thinks she's got the big break. They 402 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: all had so much to lose if they crossed Combes. 403 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 2: They had so much to lose because they needed the jobs, 404 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 2: and they also knew that he was going to blackball 405 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 2: them if they ever tried to leave. They tried to 406 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,719 Speaker 2: get positive job recommendations, he would get give them. So 407 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 2: he was also a stalker. You can't get away from 408 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 2: a stalker like this. And Nancy the fact that Capricorn 409 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 2: had this autistic son who needed full time care. This 410 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 2: is the sex traffickers reson to et. This is what 411 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 2: they do is they choose victims where there is a 412 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 2: power differential, single moms, disadvantaged youth, people are trying to 413 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 2: go over state lines. 414 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: Shawn comes on trial and the Monahana Courthouse, the federal 415 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: Courthouse in Manhattan, facing a slew of charges in a 416 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: multicount federal indictment. Can he persuade a jury the way 417 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: he's persuaded so many others to do his bidding, including police. 418 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to say. Another incident regarding Mia, and remember 419 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: part of the significance of her testimony is that she 420 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: bolsters Cassie Ventura, victim number one that cried this case 421 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 1: wide open listen. 422 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 9: Mia describes another violent incident between the couple on a 423 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 9: trip to Turks and Caicos. Cassie burst into the room 424 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 9: where Mia was sleeping, terrified and screaming that Combs was 425 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 9: going to kill her. The women piled furniture in front 426 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 9: of the door before running out through the back patio 427 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 9: and down to the beach. Cassie and Mia took paddleboards 428 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 9: out into the ocean to escape. Combs ran back and 429 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 9: forth on the beach, screaming at them as a storm 430 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,719 Speaker 9: rolled in, and the women tried to decide if they 431 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 9: wanted to face some other nature or seawan. 432 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 1: Comb's, Shawn comes or death. Kileb Brantley dealing Mia what happened? 433 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, well you heard there. They were on a trip 434 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 5: to Turks and Kko's in twenty twelve, and Mia testified 435 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 5: that Cassie came into the room woke her up, running 436 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 5: and screaming, asking for help and saying that Diddy was 437 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 5: going to kill her. And what was interesting is that 438 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 5: she said, typically Cassie was always calm, cool and collected, 439 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 5: and she was really shocked to see her like this 440 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 5: in such a state of panic and really with fear 441 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 5: in her eyes. So, as you said, you know, they 442 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 5: escaped on a paddle board and really chose mother nature. 443 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 5: A storm was rolling in over going back to the 444 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 5: beach and facing Ditty. Eventually they did end up going 445 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 5: back to the beach. 446 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 1: So Cidi Cumner joining US Crime Stories investigative reporter. What 447 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: more do we know about that incident? The two women 448 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: going out in a storm on a paddle boat turks 449 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: and kekos and that water there. I've dived there and 450 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 1: the beach starts like this before I had the twins, 451 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: by the way, the beach starts off like that, then 452 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 1: it drops down. You can see it in the daytime 453 00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: turn really dark blue very quickly. They were out in 454 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:08,199 Speaker 1: that deep water in a storm at night to get 455 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: away from Sean Combs. 456 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 6: Yes, they were so terrified. Mia, taking Pathy's demeanor the 457 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 6: level of fear she should feel that they stood out 458 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 6: on that water on those power boards for god knows 459 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 6: how long, debating whether or not it was worth just 460 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 6: sitting through that storm or going back to the beach 461 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 6: to face Sean Combs. 462 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: Again, joining me and all star pal and I want 463 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 1: to go straight now brace yourselves to a veteran defense 464 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: attorneys Troy Slayton. He is based in la at Slayton Lawyers. Troy, 465 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. Mia did an amazing 466 00:27:55,080 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: job on direct But then we've seen a lot of 467 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:04,959 Speaker 1: the defense team up there. They bring in Brian Steele 468 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: to do her cross Let me tell you what I 469 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: know about Steel. He's very likable. I bet you thought 470 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: I was going to say something else. Steele is very, 471 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,959 Speaker 1: very likable. I've seen him use as I call it, 472 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: the Andy of Maybury cross examination approach, which when you've 473 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: got a witness it's not going to be a hostile witness, 474 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: as that's a term of art under the law. When 475 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: a witness will not respond to your questions, you can 476 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: I sugjudge to declare the witness hostile witness, and you 477 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: can then cross examine your own witness if you have to. 478 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: I've seen him be very okay harsh on cross so 479 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: he's got me on the stand. This is what else 480 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: I know about Steel. He's very likable, likable to the 481 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: other members of the defense bar and to prosecutors. He's 482 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: always prepared, because there's a big difference Troy, as you know, 483 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: I know all about you. You're always prepared in court. 484 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: But there's a big difference in someone that's gregarious and 485 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: has this big personality that doesn't prepare right like Johnny Cochrane, 486 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: my old co anchor. He could carry the day in 487 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: a court just on his personality. And he wasn't grandiose. 488 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: He was just likable. He really was likable. Same thing 489 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: with Steel. I know he's a teetotaler, always been devoted 490 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: to his wife. Doesn't cheat that I know of anyway. 491 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: He drinks practically nothing but water. 492 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 8: I know that. 493 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I've seen him do this in the courthouse. 494 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: That he usually brings his own lunch, like he makes 495 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: a sandwich. Anyway. Those are just some tidbits that I 496 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: know about him. I'm pretty sure about the sandwich. Can't 497 00:29:55,360 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: swear to it. The rest I know. So is a 498 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: veteran trial lawyer, got a great reputation. I think you 499 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: just got young thug off that said, why have they 500 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: reserved steel for MIA's cross? Don't fight with me, I 501 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: need your insight. Why have they saved Steel for? I mean, 502 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: he's done other things. But they need a special touch 503 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: to cross examine Nia. This can go horribly wrong for them, Nancy. 504 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 10: A case can be won or lost on cross examination, 505 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 10: And when you have a witness that is as sympathetic 506 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 10: as Mia is, you can't go in with the hard, 507 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 10: charging cross, trying to discredit her at every step, because 508 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 10: then you will lose the white hat in front of 509 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 10: the jury. You need the jury to like you as 510 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 10: an attorney, to believe you. And so here he has 511 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 10: to walk a very fine tightrope and just try and 512 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 10: be her friend and point out things, get her to 513 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 10: start agreeing with the narrative that he is going to present, 514 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 10: get her to start nodding yes the things that he said, Like, 515 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 10: you know, you liked there were other times that you 516 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 10: liked working for Diddy. There were times that you enjoyed 517 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 10: some of the benefits that came with working with all 518 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 10: that lavishness, all that money. You enjoyed living in the 519 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 10: mansion and being able to ride in the fancy cars 520 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 10: and go on the yachts and take trips all over 521 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 10: the world. There were benefits to that, and you never 522 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 10: went to the police department. You had an opportunity in 523 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 10: twenty ee. 524 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: You're saying that, well, to take the fancy trips and 525 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: drive around in the fancy car, it was worth getting 526 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: raped three times. Is that what you're saying, because it 527 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: sounds absolutely not. 528 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 10: But what he's going to do is say that there 529 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 10: was a lot of great things that happened. There was 530 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 10: a lot of good things that happened during her employment, 531 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 10: and maybe those good things in her mind and outweighed 532 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 10: the bad. For example, and the the analogy that I 533 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 10: was thinking about as you were talking earlier was Harvey Weinstein. 534 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 10: There were women that were willing to sell their bodies 535 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 10: in order to get a role on a TV show 536 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 10: or a movie. And they, in their mind thought, you're. 537 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: Digging really deeply. I just got to ask you a question. 538 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: Do you hate yourself? 539 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 10: Do I hate myself? 540 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 6: No? 541 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: Hear all that. You're just like, ah, it's great, my 542 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: tongue off is so tastes bad in my mouth. So 543 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: they're willing to sell their soul to what drive around 544 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: and Diddy's su They are you kidding? To go to 545 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: a white party or the freak Freakov goes on upstairs. 546 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: They get to go by Diddy's baby oil, oh joy. 547 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 10: There was a million opportunities to do other things, to 548 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 10: work for other employers, to have other jobs to do. 549 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 10: This wasn't the only employer in the entire world. 550 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: And you're saying the same thing that rape apologists always say, 551 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: doctor Mathey. No, look, Nancy, Everything that He's gonna let 552 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: Bethany talk. Okay, Bethany hit it before survival. 553 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 2: The reason they don't leave is that the survival instinct 554 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 2: is stronger than any other drive we have, and when 555 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 2: you believe you are going to be killed, you will 556 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 2: not leave a perpetrator. Also, domestic abuse is a crisis 557 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 2: of boundaries, meaning the victim often blames themselves for the 558 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 2: aggression of the perpetrator. So there's this confusion about well, is. 559 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: It your fault? Is it my fault? 560 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 2: And then everything becomes calamitous and breaks out into terror 561 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 2: like when they were out, you know, paddleboarding into a storm. 562 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 2: And that also when the amigdala is very activated, when 563 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 2: the fight and flight is activated, you can't think. When 564 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 2: we are anxious, we cannot think. So their capacity to 565 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 2: even strategize in a basic way was compromised. 566 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 1: Mia not her real name under cross examination on the 567 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: Standard Crime Stories with Nancy Grace straight out to Special 568 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: Guests joining US RV. Brandt, former Senior inspector with the 569 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: US Marshall Service. He has traveled around the world hunting 570 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 1: down the bad guys with the doj Atsha two embassies 571 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 1: around the world, and he's the author of a series 572 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:43,240 Speaker 1: of Jack solo mysteries. Wow, I wonder who they're patterned 573 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: after on Amazon or brand. Thank you for being with us. 574 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: Do you ever get just exhausted hearing what victims endure 575 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 1: in this case rape working on godly hours? As a 576 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,800 Speaker 1: matter of fact, I want you to hear this about 577 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: Mia getting her arm slammed in a door allegedly by 578 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: comes Colmbs. 579 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 11: Wasn't just violent with Cassie. Mia describes an incident at 580 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,800 Speaker 11: the Revolt production office when Combs asked to borrow her phone, 581 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 11: then ran off with it. Mia chased Combs and tried 582 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 11: to snatch it back, so he ran into a restroom. 583 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 11: MIA's arm was in the door, but Combs continued to 584 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 11: slam the door shut so hard. Mia thought her arm 585 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 11: was broken. When Combs finally came back out, he told 586 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 11: her he sent himself her compromising photos, so he had 587 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 11: something on her in case she had something on him. 588 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 1: It's like he's got something on everybody. Do you ever 589 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,720 Speaker 1: get tired? It's like second verse same as the first, 590 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: and Mia has been on the stand on a cross 591 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: exam all afternoon. 592 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 12: Yes, Nancy, it is exhausting, and it's because my adult 593 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 12: life in law enforcement. I have the investigated cases like these, 594 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 12: just countless cases like these, and it's all the same. 595 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,879 Speaker 12: He is a pimp and this is what pimps do. 596 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 12: They destroy people psychologically to keep control of them. And 597 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 12: I'm sure Lynnshaw and doctor Bethan he can talk more 598 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 12: on that subject, more of an expert than I am. 599 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:23,280 Speaker 12: But I've seen it, and I've interviewed these victims countless times, 600 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 12: and we've gone to trial countless times, and it's all 601 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 12: the same. And people like him, the pimps, they punish 602 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 12: the people to keep them in line. I've heard pimps 603 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 12: talk about working their girls and they would and they 604 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,479 Speaker 12: would intentionally put them out on the street in the rain, 605 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 12: in the cold, just to teach them a lesson. And 606 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 12: this is what they do and he is no different. 607 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: I don't like anything you're saying. I hate everything you 608 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 1: just said, although our rant sadly it's all true. And 609 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: now I know where we get special trial advice from? 610 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: Who else? Shoug Night the convicted killer. Listen. 611 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 8: I feel if he guilt till his truth, he really 612 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 8: would walk. If propably go out there and say, hey, 613 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,919 Speaker 8: I wouldn't you know, I wouldn't control of my life 614 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 8: at the tiller or I shall not from. 615 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,320 Speaker 1: My friends at CNN. I feel like if he tells 616 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 1: the truth, he really would walk. Obviously he's not been 617 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,479 Speaker 1: following the trial. If Puffy goes up there and says, hey, 618 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 1: I did all the drugs, I wasn't in control of 619 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: my life at the time, or myself. Troy Slayton from 620 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: the Expert trial advice from sug Not who's behind bars 621 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: for murder. His trial strategy didn't work out that well 622 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:48,320 Speaker 1: for him. If Coms tries to say, when I commit 623 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 1: when I committed all these acts, I was high on 624 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 1: drugs or alcohol, that's not a defense under the law. 625 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 10: No, that's not going to do it. But what we'll 626 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 10: do it for his defense attorneys is showing that all 627 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 10: of these things were just if they were done, they 628 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 10: were acts of an eccentric rock star, an eccentric billionaire, 629 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 10: but they were not all related to a criminal. 630 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 1: They were not related to Shorn. He didn't rape anybody, 631 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,800 Speaker 1: he didn't beat anybody. He's just eccentric. Did I hear that? Okay, 632 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,760 Speaker 1: you said that. You just said that you're going to 633 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,359 Speaker 1: expe away all of these felies by climbing. He's eccentric. 634 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 10: Look, he may have done these things, but he hasn't 635 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 10: been charged. He wasn't charged with rape. He wasn't charged 636 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 10: with He was charged with sex trafficking, but he was 637 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 10: not charged with rape. He was not charged. 638 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 1: You say tomato, I say tomato. Paddle was going to 639 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:50,800 Speaker 1: do backflip. 640 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,840 Speaker 10: He was in charge with the battery of smashing someone's 641 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 10: arm in the door. All of these things have to 642 00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 10: relate the do your bidding in order to advance him. 643 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,760 Speaker 1: She didn't bit his bidding, she didn't want her arm broken. 644 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 10: How does that advance his business interests? That they haven't 645 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 10: tied that bow together yet, So I think all court 646 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 10: watchers are trying to watch and see how they tie 647 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 10: together all these disparate acts to show that it was 648 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 10: advancing his business. 649 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 1: Okay, listen to more trial advice from convicted killer sitting 650 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 1: behind bars. Should Knight he. 651 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 8: Can humanize his old self in a jury magula shot, 652 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 8: but if they keep down, it's like he's scared to 653 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 8: face the music. 654 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 1: Now from my friends at CNN. Of course, there's a 655 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 1: fifth Amendment. He doesn't have to take the stand, but 656 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 1: I will say this, should Knight's write about this. Should 657 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 1: Knight very talented, still a convicted killer. He looks like 658 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 1: he's scared to face the music if he doesn't testify. Okay, 659 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: Lynn Shaw, did you just hear veteran trial lawyer Chroice 660 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:02,760 Speaker 1: Layton refer to times his behavior as just eccentric. 661 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 2: I'm almost silent, but I'm never a silent person because 662 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,359 Speaker 2: I can't believe what I had to hear. I'm going 663 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 2: to say this. This is the problem we have here 664 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 2: with a lot of lawyers with these cases. This is 665 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 2: sex trafficking. He's beating people up. This isn't fetishes or 666 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 2: a weird lifestyle rock star. This isn't just having sex 667 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 2: orgies and stuff like this. This is drugging people allegedly, 668 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 2: you know, feeding them drinks they don't know what's in it. 669 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 2: It's shoving people against walls. It's threatening them if they leave, 670 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 2: they can't lock their doors. They're paddling out in the ocean. 671 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 2: This is a little bit more than eccentric rock star 672 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 2: style lifestyles. 673 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:40,720 Speaker 1: This is a pimp. 674 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 2: This is a human trafficker. He's going to go down. 675 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 2: He puts people in these positions they can't find their 676 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 2: way out of and you know what, I'm going to 677 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 2: say it again, force fraud, coersion, laying the groundwork for 678 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 2: sex trafficking and also for a criminal enterprise. 679 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:57,320 Speaker 1: And he can't. 680 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,240 Speaker 2: Everybody just keep thinking about that Cassie video. He cannot 681 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 2: be humanized in any way, shape or form. 682 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 1: MIA on the stand all afternoon, enduring cross examination at 683 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 1: the hands of a master trial lawyer, Brian Steele. We 684 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 1: remember American hero Sergeant Daniel Baker, or Dixon County Sheriff's Tennessee, 685 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 1: just thirty two years old, shot down in the line 686 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:32,360 Speaker 1: of duty. Served LA law enforcement for ten years, leaving 687 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:41,280 Speaker 1: behind grieving wife Lisa and daughter Meredith. American hero Daniel Baker. 688 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:48,359 Speaker 1: Nancy Gray signing off goodbye friend,