1 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,079 Speaker 1: Is The Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 2 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome 3 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: to the Drive. I'm Dale Lilly. He is Matt Williamson. 4 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: It is a Friday, and that Steelers have their home 5 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: opener on on Saturday Saturday Sunday at Acting Sure Stadium. 6 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: I get my I'll get my my days right here 7 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: um against the New England Patriots. The line is now 8 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: moved to two and a half. It still shocks me. 9 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm living in another world here. We're on a 10 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: different planet. I don't know. I don't know why the 11 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: line would move like and I just saw a thing 12 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: that I got here that I get every week from 13 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: my Jimmy Shapiro from I Believe It's different betting trends 14 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: and like stuff. Yeah, it's from bet online. Uh and 15 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: s bets are going in on the Steelers show, no kidding, Yeah, 16 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're gonna keep giving them more or 17 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 1: more points at home after coming off a nice win, 18 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: after watching the Patriots after a nice loss. I don't 19 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: quite understand the line, which gives me pause because people 20 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: in Vegas know a thing or two. They don't build 21 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: those you know, giant castles out there with without any 22 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: making some money and doing being good at their jobs. 23 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: And I'm my only thought is, boy, can are the 24 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: Patriots just set? They're not gonna lose two in a 25 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: row their backs against the worst people? Well, Belichick, Belichick, 26 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: Belichick doesn't lose two games in a row, right, Well, yeah, 27 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: when he when he had Tom Brady, he didn't win 28 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: or didn't lose two games in a row. They've only 29 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: won one since they're by last week. They've lost a lot. 30 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: They lost two last year. Like this is this is 31 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: not a good football team. It's not the one stat 32 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: I did here. I don't know if it's in that 33 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: email or not. And who knows um And this applies 34 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: to the Holts and the Patriots. This year is the 35 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: last two or three years. It's not even a huge 36 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: sample size. When teams start on the road back to back, 37 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: that second game, they're like tenan know against spread? Okay, 38 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not sure why that would be some stats. 39 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: I have a lot of respect for the betting community, 40 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: and I've learned a lot from but there's a lot 41 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: of stats like Russell Wilson passed Thanksgiving on night games 42 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: on the road is two and one. Like, it's like 43 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: I told you about the Genoa when his last ten stars, 44 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: Gino Smith has covered in every start, so I kind 45 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: of like that, but that dates back like seven years, right, 46 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: and using familiar teammates in all ten games. No would 47 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: recognize himself from seven years ago, right, right, So that 48 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: I hadn't even thought of that because you did mention 49 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 1: that off there, and I'm like, well, Bridgewater was that way. 50 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: Mayby one just think these guys stink, but they're okay 51 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: instead of stinking of past. When Gino Smith was starting 52 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: a game, it was because he was stepping in as 53 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: a as a fill in. So they were probably big underdogs. 54 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: Dog he's the starter, right, They're still big underdogs. But 55 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: you know, but my point is a lot of those 56 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: betting stats are too far down the rabbit hole since 57 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: two thousand. Tell me what happened in two thousand. Yeah, 58 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: Vrabel was not a coach, he was a players. Yeah. Um. 59 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: In fact, you know, in this game, um, this will 60 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: be the first time the Steelers and Patriots have met 61 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: since n This Ben Roethlisberger or Tom Brady will not 62 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: have been the starting quarterback. Yeah, I mean it was 63 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: Cordell Verse bloed, So, yeah, that would make some sense 64 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: with Pete Carroll leading the Patriots and Bill Coward leading 65 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: your Steelers. You know, so Belichick, I think that was 66 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: that the year that he turned down the Jets job, 67 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: or that sounds about right. They probably just won the 68 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: Super Bowl recently as a d C with the Giants, 69 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: right right around that greatest show in turf time. I mean, 70 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: times were a lot different, so it was a completely 71 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: different league, and I think more so, much more so 72 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: than the Steelers. I think the Patriots have changed dramatically, 73 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: you know, Like I just got off the air with 74 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: Stan and with no disrespect to what Belichick's accomplished, we 75 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: mentioned names like Landry Shula, Noel their last years or two, 76 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: you know, like it doesn't go well at the end 77 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: of any of these great coaches careers. Very few guys 78 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: you have to walk out on their own. What happens 79 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: here and there, you know, is that what's happening in 80 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: New England. I think Belichick, the team builder should be questioned, 81 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: maybe not the coach or the football knowledge, of course, 82 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: but we'll see. I mean, I'm selling this team short. 83 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: I feel very good about you know, I said before 84 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: the season started, taking New England under eight and a half. 85 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: I feel really good about that, better and better the 86 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: more homework I do this week with them watching a 87 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: real NFL game on the road against my me who 88 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: I'm open to the idea of Miami might be a 89 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: little better than I thought. But I don't think they 90 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: are a powerhouse, you know, so we'll see. Um. I'm 91 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: shocked by the line and it makes me think I 92 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: don't know something that I should. Yeah, well, here's here's another. 93 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: One of those betting nugget would check is fifty nine 94 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: and thirty three against the spread after a loss, but 95 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: just eight and seven against the spread after a loss 96 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: the past two seasons since Brady left New England. Statistics 97 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: actually means some means more than the other. Yes, without 98 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: give me the recent history. The Steelers, meanwhile, are eight 99 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: and two against the spread in their past ten conference games. 100 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: Are they interesting? I would bet? And I don't know this, 101 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: but I mean it's probably a safe bet that Hall 102 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: of Fame coaches after a loss, how are pretty darn 103 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: good against the spread? They figure out what one. Mike 104 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: Tomlin's a Hall of Fame is right there as well 105 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: as I'm gonna say, you beat me to it, right, 106 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: And I do think the last two years means a 107 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: lot more in Belichick's career than two Thousane Yeahs team. 108 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 1: You know, they were pretty good, right, you know, he 109 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: doesn't have that kind of talent here, right, And I'm 110 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: sure that they went back to the drawing board, especially 111 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: on offense, and said we need to simplify this, we 112 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: need to change this protection, we need to run the 113 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: ball more, whatever it is, and they'll be better in areas. 114 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: That's all well and good, Matt, but their chess pieces 115 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: aren't a good chess pieces aren't as good. Mac Jones 116 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: miss practice yesterday. He's back this eat. You know. So 117 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: you get three practices to get ready for the game, 118 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: and if you were going to make massive changes, starting 119 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: a quarterback would help your quarterback. Missed one of those practices, right, 120 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: And I would say Thursday is probably the most important 121 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: of the practices, you know, in terms of what you do. 122 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: And every team is different, of course, Wednesday's against Thursdays. 123 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: The day we're okay, we're gonna really find tuned stuff. 124 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: Put it to the field, put it to the field. 125 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: Get again the quarterback. And this is what typically this 126 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: is what the Steelers do. Anyways, I don't know what. 127 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: I don't know how bell, but you you take a 128 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: look at a bunch of different plays and then Friday, 129 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: the quarterback and the court offensive coordinator gets together whoever 130 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: that might be in New England, and you sit down 131 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: and you said, Okay, I really like this play. Uh 132 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,559 Speaker 1: your top fIF team plays, what are your top twenty plays? 133 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: Whatever it is? Whatever we ran there, what do you 134 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: think work the best? In your eyes? If we get 135 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: that Steeler base three four boy, let's pound this run 136 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: to no end or whatever it is. You know again, 137 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: you missed that practice, right, Um, this is not picked 138 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: on Bill Belichick, Dave from Williamson, you know. But I 139 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: didn't realize this, and I referenced the stand call I 140 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: just did. I guess Kraft called up Belichick and there's 141 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: been players that are late to meetings and I'm like, 142 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: what is going That's not the team that I remember. 143 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not saying the old guys slipping, but 144 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: I had miss opened to the possibility. Yeah. I don't 145 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: like the way. I don't understand the way he's Bills 146 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: team for three years now. Yeah, the the hubrists Uh, 147 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: then not having an offensive quarter and pay Well, we 148 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: don't need Josh McCann. We don't need him, we don't 149 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: need an offensive coordinator. We don't need anybody. I don't 150 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: trust anybody else from outside the organization to come in 151 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: and be this offensive. And you mentioned McDaniels. I tend 152 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: to think he's very very good at his job and 153 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: replacing him was going to be very difficult no matter what. 154 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: I mean, you probably weren't going to upgrade their let 155 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: alone taking the approach that they did, which is just 156 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: unbelievably odd to me. And you know I've mentioned Munchak 157 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: here too. I mean, you lose an old time grade, 158 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: old line coach like Scarneck. Yet it starts to you know, 159 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: the line play won't be at the same level as 160 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: when he was in his prime, you know, I mean, 161 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: you know you're losing more than you're gaining people. Uh 162 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 1: And I used to get this all the time. Well, 163 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: the Steelers they don't have as bigger coaching staff. They're 164 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: they're cheap because they don't have as many coaches and 165 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: some of these other teams, the Patriots have fewer, so 166 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: I think they're really low too. If you were here's 167 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: their here's their offensive coaching staff. Matt Patricia, senior football advisor, 168 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: offensive line. It's weird me that he's offensive line. Uh, 169 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: Joe Judge offensive assistant slash quarterbacks. But if people don't know, 170 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: both these guys were there former head coaches but are 171 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: now sharing the offensive Patriots guys that went off on 172 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: the head coach failed miserably, came back and both were 173 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: Judge was a special teams Patricia was a defensive coordinator, 174 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: yes after after Brian Flores. Yes, he is all defense. 175 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: The running backs coaches Vinny Sinceri, that's Tino's younger brother. Yeah, 176 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: and Son. I guess he's sal Son. I should say, OK, 177 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: but he's been in the league for five years. Is 178 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: he gonna have a lot of gravitas there? I wouldn't think. 179 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: The watch receiver's kick returner coaches Troy Brown. Now, he's 180 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: got a lot of time in that system. Oh yeah 181 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: he is. That's nineteen years experience. Sailors do that stuff too, 182 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: So we have no room to throw stones. Keeping guys around, 183 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: you know that are played here or learned the Steeler 184 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: way the Patriot way have great spect for that. I 185 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 1: don't know if and that's the true for Steelers or 186 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: every coach. I don't know who good assistant coaches are 187 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: in the league or not, and I know enough to 188 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: not even try because you have to be in the 189 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: building to know those things. The tight ends coaches Nick Kayley, 190 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: I'm not familiar with him. Nick doesn't look like he 191 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: was ever a tight end. Um assistant offensive line coaches 192 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: Billy Yates, Well, Billy Yates is a recent player he 193 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: played for. It was a verst old, tough guy. Um, 194 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,599 Speaker 1: like an Adrian Clem, you know, there was one of 195 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: those type of dudes. Probably, But no matter who they're 196 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: assistant to line coaches, he's being asked to do the 197 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: more than most assistant oline coaches that I can promise, 198 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: because Patricia is not is not spending that time with 199 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: those No, he's not on the Microsoft tablet or whatever 200 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: saying change your blocking angle on third downs, you know, 201 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: during the games. And then the other guys are all 202 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,719 Speaker 1: offensive assistants, so they don't even count. They're basically gay, 203 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: you know, the defensive side of things. The linebackers coach 204 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: is Steve Belichick. The safety's coaches Brian Belichick. I didn't 205 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: know there was two three Elichecks on the staff. The 206 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: linebackers coach, the other linebackers coach. You get two linebacker coaches. 207 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: Is Jared Mayo? Okay, so he played, he's another one. Yeah, 208 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: Your defensive line coaches, DeMarcus Covington. They got a cornerbacks coach, 209 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 1: Michael Pellegrino, and then they've got a NFL coaching Fellowship guy. 210 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 1: They have five defensive coaches. That it's a small staff. 211 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: And I'm sure there's the offensive who's the offensive mine, 212 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: where's the who's there? Who who's the who's the adult 213 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: in the rue when they're when there's game planning here? 214 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: Who's doing it? Who's the play caller? I know who? 215 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: Actually I know it is, But yeah, I mean like, 216 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: who's the rat runner, who's the you know, who's the 217 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: guy that understands? How did Josh McDaniels was tremendous at it? Yeah, 218 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: I mean I really think he's a loss no matter what. 219 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: I don't like the what we know of this group 220 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: to replace him, or how the schematics of it all 221 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: and the results have not been I mean, it's been 222 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: a mess. And that goes back to beat reporters in camp. 223 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: What we saw in preseason and which you can put 224 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: as much weight against as you want. But they're trying 225 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: new things and it doesn't seem to be working. It 226 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: does not seem to be working. And they don't have 227 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: I don't know that they have, you mentioned while they're 228 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: going to maybe scale things back, and who's who's who's 229 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: fixing that? Yeah, I don't know. I mean, Bill can 230 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: we do so much? Even Bill and his prime and 231 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: he's not an offensive coach. Because you mentioned the defensive staff, 232 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 1: that's a tiny defensive staff, and two of them are 233 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: his sons. Sons he said, of the room, who's telling them? Nor? 234 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: All right? And maybe you don't want to tell him though, 235 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: but I mean, even if he's in his prime, still, 236 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: that's biting off a lot for a head coach. I mean, 237 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: not to mention all the game days stuff and the 238 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: timeouts and all those things, of course, but you have 239 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: by far he has the most influence of any of 240 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: those defensive guys, without a doubt, and he should have 241 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: the most of all those influence offensive guys. It's just 242 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: asking a lot of any one man coach whoever. I mean, 243 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: it's a reason why I like Chuck Nole, for example, 244 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,080 Speaker 1: at the end was it was like, you know, he 245 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: was a special teams coach too, and they and you 246 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: know he was the quarterbacks coach and they had to 247 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: be different. Okay, Joe Moore is the first, uh offensive 248 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: coordinator and your quarterbacks coach and you know, and you 249 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: have to bring in a special teams coach. People asking now, well, 250 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: do you need a special teams coach? Yeah, you do, 251 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: you know, because you don't want your head coach out 252 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: there having to do these things. I mean this a 253 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,719 Speaker 1: recent example, and to take it on the field, it's 254 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 1: almost like our long snapper is important. Yeah, you know 255 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: they are, yes this week, Yes they happened to that. 256 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, they are as our special 257 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: teams coaches and you know, right. But what I don't 258 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: I don't know what the happy medium is with with 259 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: coaching staffs. Um I don't think. I don't think you need. 260 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: Like I looked at the Rams coaching staff a couple 261 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,839 Speaker 1: of years ago, people talking about, well, Sean McVeigh coaching free. Yeah, 262 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: because he has thirty guys on his staff is more 263 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: likely chance of somebody getting plucked if you got a million. 264 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, come on, he's got an assistant 265 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: to the assistant, and who knows what all their job 266 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: bobs are. One of them might just be cutting up 267 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: film guy. You know. One of them. We're gonna call 268 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 1: a coach, but he doesn't really coach. Cleveland has a 269 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: chief of staff. What the hell does the chief of 270 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: staff do? Isn't that the head coach? Right? Yeah, I 271 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: mean that that's odd to me. But I didn't realize 272 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: New England was that small in terms, and they always 273 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: kind of have been, which I'm sure that's the way 274 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: Belichick wants it because he does a lot of the stuff. 275 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: And I know Mike Tomlin does you know the really 276 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: good head coaches the way they look at it, Well, 277 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: if we have a deficiency somewhere, I'll just handle it. Yeah, 278 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: Like goal is a perfect example. You know, I'll teach 279 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: the trap game, I'll teach how to cover. I'll teach 280 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: cover too, whatever it is, and they can do it 281 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: because there are but sometimes you stretch yourself too thin 282 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: because you've got to be the CEO too. And the 283 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: media stuff, and you know, Bill doesn't worry about the media. 284 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: It still goes the podium from time to time and grunts. 285 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know, I just think the Pats 286 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: aren't what they used to be. I don't think they 287 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: are either, and I think they're that. I think that's 288 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: why the line is to get us back around to 289 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: what we were. I think that's why the line is 290 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: what it is, because people we're still believing in the 291 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: Patriot way, and I don't know that the Patriot way 292 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: is the Patriot way right now. I don't either. I 293 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: don't think they have very good players. And if you 294 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: look at if even if you just look at what 295 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: they've done since Brady left, Okay, yeah, they made the 296 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: playoffs last year, they lost just as badly as the 297 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: Steelers did in Kansas City. I mean, I've said this 298 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: many times. I thought the Raiders, Eagles, Steelers, and Patriots 299 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: really were his borderline of playoff teams, and people like 300 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: people said, well, you know that they used that as 301 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: as well. They shouldn't added the seventh team. Look at 302 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: those teams. I'm like, did you see what some of 303 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: the other teams did too? Oh? Right? You know it 304 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: didn't matter if it was the seventh seed or the 305 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: or the sixth seed or sometimes the fifth seed. Teams 306 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: got blown up. And teams do get blown out in 307 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: playoff games. That's that's not new or in any sport. 308 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: You know that the hockey team that gets in that 309 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: probably is right around five hundred or whatever and plays 310 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: a one seed and what happens in a big time team, right, So, No, 311 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: I don't understand the line. I never understood to begin with. 312 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick the Steelers to win. I know we'll 313 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: get to that later. I do think it will be 314 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: a very close, grinded out, slow paced game, and I 315 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: would give Belichick the nod over any coach in the 316 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: league in such a situation to win in the margins, 317 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: special teams, all those type of things. I just don't 318 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: think his players are very good. I don't think they've 319 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: got a very good football team. Yeah, I don't think 320 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: he's built a very good roster. I'm looking at a 321 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: video of him today talking to people to play. It 322 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: looks like he just rolled right in a bed, get 323 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: to cut off, cut off swatshirt, sweatshirt on, like just 324 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: shorts and no socks. And yeah, I mean that just 325 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: that is. He does have his own style, and I've 326 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: got all the respect in the world for the guy. 327 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: I think he's football coach. Um, But I think maybe 328 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: the fastball isn't quite what it used to be. I 329 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: think it's quite possible. What did he seventies some years old, 330 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: early seven? Think a long time years? I mean, he's 331 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: still the same gusto at your job, doing the same, 332 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: doing it that long. I don't know. I think you know, 333 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: in the I just think a lot of it. I 334 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: think we're learning now that a lot of what happened 335 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: in New England in the last two decades happened to 336 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: be Brady. I agree, But I also think that there's 337 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 1: a perfect marriage exactly. Yeah, you know Bradshaw on the 338 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: old Monte. But I also think that you know, Brady 339 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: has continued to have success without Belichick. Belichick has not 340 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: had the same level of success without Brady. It does, 341 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: that's a fact. But it bothers me that people now say, oh, 342 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: Tom doesn't doesn't mean that Belichick wasn't. I mean, right, 343 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: I don't think that's what you're saying. But you do 344 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: hear that Belichick's just uh because of Brady. I mean, 345 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: I'll go back to those first couple of Super Bowls. 346 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: Brady wasn't Brady, No, No, he wasn't. You know, three 347 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: career and he goes, yeah, and go back to you 348 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: know when I said, and when I did the Hall 349 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 1: of Fame vote in and Richard Seymour was on the 350 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: He's on the ballot, and the presenter for Richard Seymour's 351 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: you know, goes through and he actually laid it out 352 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: really well. He said, they, you know, the Patriots in 353 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: from two thousand one, two thousand one to two thousand 354 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: four won three Super Bowls, Ty Laws in, Tom Brady's 355 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: gonna go in, Belichick is going to go in. And 356 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: that's the only those are the only three guys in. 357 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 1: So you're telling me that it was that it was 358 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: ty Law, Brady, Belichick, and a bunch of slapping And 359 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: that's exactly in a bunch of slappies. I said, you 360 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: know what, He's right, and I was gonna vote for 361 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 1: Seymour going into it, you know, because I think Seymour 362 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: was a really good football player. Um, but there's you know, 363 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: there's something something because you look at some of the 364 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: you know, the Raiders of the of the of the 365 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: seventies won one Super Bowl. They got seven guys in 366 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 1: off off of those teams. I mean they got more 367 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: than the Steelers from those groups I'm even like the 368 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: Bucks have won Super Bowl, but Sap is in and 369 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: you know, like yeah, like guys from each level of 370 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 1: their defense, and it was a good defense. It wasn't. 371 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 1: It wasn't. It wasn't you know, Oh my god, that's 372 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: up there with the Steel Curtain or the Bears. They 373 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: have a bunch of rings right and one on one 374 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: time and they got they've got three guys in off 375 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: of their defense. Like okay that you know, yeah, I 376 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: do kind of respect that argument of if we're going 377 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: to be a dominant franchise for twenty years two decades, 378 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: shouldn't we have it like twenty I mean, the Gronks 379 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: are coming in Moss and you say, don't I mean 380 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: they went ten years without winning a Super Bowl. Oh, 381 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,479 Speaker 1: I get that. I mean there really is two different, 382 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: you know, dynasties the Brady that we see now. But 383 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: they won They won the division every year. Yeah, I 384 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: mean they nobody in their in their division that they 385 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: challenged them at those points. The Jets did for a 386 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: few years, um, but nobody did in a sustained level 387 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: as like they did. Um. But you look at that 388 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: and it was the first few years Brady wasn't Brady, 389 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: Oh he was. He was a caretaker. He wasn't like 390 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: going to Pro Bowls even right, he wasn't. Yeah, he 391 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: was just a guy. And that didn't start to happen 392 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: until that, oh, seven oh eight when he started to 393 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: become that. That was like when they got Moss and 394 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,719 Speaker 1: Welcome and those guy that was so then. I I 395 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: don't know that the you know, their defense was good 396 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: in those days, but it wasn't to the level like 397 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 1: when they were going back to Super Bowls and in 398 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: the ins and winning in the in the later latter 399 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: part of the decade, the defense was good and the 400 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: offense was good. Yeah, the offense was one of the 401 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: best in the league, you know, consistently at that point 402 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: on and Brady. Second, I always look at Brady's career like, really, 403 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 1: he has had three careers. I mean an early Brady 404 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: caretaker guy. Then he becomes a stud you know, and 405 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: gets more around him. The offense troves, goes through him. 406 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: He makes those around with those teams early no, they didn't. 407 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: And then the Bucks Brady is a little different too. Obviously, 408 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: you know the old man Brady, which is still yeah, 409 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: I look at the old man Brady. I think I 410 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: look at these last like six years of Brady as 411 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: the as a separate ye and all one, whether it's 412 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,959 Speaker 1: with Tampa Bay Brady or or New England Brady. There, 413 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: I think they're the same, agreed. But I do think 414 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: people forget that there was a year or two that 415 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: at his end of his time in New New England 416 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: wasn't pretty. It wasn't pretty, and he didn't that much 417 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 1: around him, and you can see why he'd won out. 418 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: And the other thing that Brady has advantaged a little 419 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: bit over Belichick is he only had to make one decision. 420 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: There's thirty two teams out there, maybe five of them 421 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: recording me. This Bucks team is perfect for me. I'm 422 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: gonna go an offensive line, great weapons, the defense, right, 423 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna slide right in there. They're gonna 424 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: draft me. Tristan Worth's nice, you know, bring in my 425 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 1: buddy Gronk, and you know a couple other guys I 426 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 1: like for net that was like we talked about it 427 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: that for that season that that you know, that was 428 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 1: the year that had turnovers that year. Just come in 429 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: and cut that in half that and half, I mean, 430 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: go down to Dalton would have won a lot of 431 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,479 Speaker 1: games with that. Defense was great, they had Evans, they 432 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: were good. Yeah, Godwin was already there, right, and Tom 433 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: knew that, you know. And since then, I mean back 434 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: to our point, Belichick has not done what Brady did. 435 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: They both think at so many cards in your hand, 436 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 1: I have these choices. Brady made the right choice, obviously, 437 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: Belichick hasn't made a lot of right choices in my 438 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: opinion too, not only replaced Brady, but use my calories, 439 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: salary cap space in my first round picks and all 440 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: those things. The team building. Yeah, I just look at 441 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: you know, when when people talk about the Steelers quote 442 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: unquote wasted a decade of band and all that, right, 443 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: you can look at the same way with the Patriots 444 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: basically wasted a decade of of Tom Brady. Yes, they 445 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: want at the beginning and they want at the end 446 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 1: of his time there, but the in between wasn't always peachy. 447 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 1: I mean, did the Saints waste Breeze did? By the 448 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: same argument, That's the argument I always bring back with 449 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 1: people when they say that, well, Breeze one one did 450 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: the Packers Rogers manning one one with with the Colts 451 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: was that a waste. I don't see it. Yeah, yeah, 452 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: if you're not easy to win a super Bowl, if 453 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: any organization, probably in any sport. But I can't speak 454 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: to the other sports. Wins one super Bowl decade, you 455 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: take that. Absolutely. They've only been doing the super Bowl 456 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: since you know, the mid to late sixties, so you know, 457 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 1: right right, one per decade is pretty darn good. Yea, 458 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: some have none many, Yes, I'm talking about you Cleveland 459 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: and Detroit and Cincinnati. I was blown away by that 460 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: stat I just saw before the season started. Playoff wins 461 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: since the Super Bowl, Detroit has one one one playoff win, 462 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: let alone super Bowls and whatnot. These two organizations have 463 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: six rings. It's not easy to do. No, it's not. 464 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 1: And what these two teams have done is miraculous, which 465 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: is why this is kind of a fun conversation. Absolutely, 466 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break. He is Matt Williamson. I 467 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: am Dale Lally. 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