1 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: in Barrea, Ohio. This is Cleveland Brown Stanley, brought to 3 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: you by Balley Beck coming soon to Ohio on a 4 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and 5 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura. 6 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 2: And a happy Thursday to you and yours. This is 7 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 2: Jason Gibbs and this today highlights from this season's best 8 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 2: podcast available, the Browns Official off season podcast, and boy, 9 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,319 Speaker 2: we've got a lot of content for you here on 10 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 2: this Thursday, giving Bow and Nathan the day off from 11 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 2: a best of show. They'll be back tomorrow, never fear, 12 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 2: and it's a full show tomorrow as well going into 13 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: the weekend, but in the meantime, promoting the best podcast available. 14 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: Wherever you get your podcasts, you can like and subscribe today. 15 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: You can also check out all of our episodes YouTube 16 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 2: dot com. Browns coming up on today's show and the 17 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 2: best of the best podcast available. Recapping the twenty twenty 18 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 2: three draft, not just the Browns Draft, but draft in 19 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 2: general with the athletics Dane Brugler a great two part 20 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 2: interview there. Brown's rookie defensive end Isaiah McGuire will join 21 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 2: the show Brown's kicker Cade York in our two from 22 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,559 Speaker 2: Mini Camp week, recapping his offseason. He's got a new 23 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 2: special teams coordinator, he talks about him. Second year running 24 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 2: back Jerome Ford will join the program. You'll also hear 25 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 2: from new free agent acquisition Obo Okoronquo, a guy that 26 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 2: is going to have a big role in this defense here, 27 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 2: especially at the defensive end, with what Jim Schwartz wants 28 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 2: to do. And then you'll finally wrap up today's show 29 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 2: hearing from rookie Center former Buck guy Luke Weppler, a 30 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: guy that I know. Coach Bill Callahan and Scott Peters 31 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: and this coaching staff in general are very very high 32 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: on and so far he has lived up to those 33 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 2: expectations through Rookie Mini caamp OTAs and then mandatory Mini camp. 34 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: Let's get things Roland coming up after the break. That's right, 35 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 2: we'll take a quick time out when we come back 36 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: the athletics. Dane Brugler sits down with yours Truly to 37 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: recap the twenty twenty three NFL Draft. Those were the 38 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 2: hot topics of the day, presented by Vivid Seats, an 39 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 2: official fan experience partner of Your Cleveland Browns. This is 40 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Bally Bet, a 41 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 2: sports betting partner of your Cleveland Browns, Coming soon to 42 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 2: Ohio on eight to fifty ESPN Cleveland. 43 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by bally Bet, coming 44 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN, Cleveland. 45 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 2: Welcome back to a special edition of Cleveland Brown's Daily, 46 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: brought to you by Bally Bett, a sports betting partner 47 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 2: of your Cleveland Browns, coming soon to Ohio. I'm Jason Gibbs. 48 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 2: Today the best of our offseason podcast. It's called the 49 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 2: best podcast available. You can check out all of our 50 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: episodes YouTube dot com, Slash Browns or wherever you get 51 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: your podcasts right now. Kicking off the show with the 52 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: athletics Dane Brugler, the draft guru himself and also for 53 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 2: the third consecutive year, a special contributor to the Cleveland Browns. 54 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 2: We appreciate all of his time, all of his efforts. 55 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: This is a comprehensive look at the entire Browns draft class, 56 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 2: the Browns rookie free agents that they sign, and then 57 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 2: a look at the draft as a whole. It was 58 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: an interesting one here in twenty twenty three. Enjoy Part 59 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 2: one of our interview with Dane Brugler. First and foremost, 60 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 2: shout out to you on the Beast every player drafted 61 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: in the Beast, which you can still get and you 62 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: should get if you want to learn all about the 63 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 2: guys that we took on Day two and Day three 64 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 2: and for any team in DAYTI two and Day three. 65 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: It is the complete, complete draft guide. My entire on 66 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 2: air staff used it a lot of illuminaries last week 67 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 2: throughout the NFL world I saw using your draft guide. 68 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: I killed a couple trees this past week. But the 69 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 2: on air guys, everybody, Yeah, did yourself as always. Congratulations 70 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 2: every single player in the draft Guide. Has there been 71 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 2: a year where you've had like more than one that 72 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: one player that wasn't in a draft guide? I mean, 73 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: I feel like you cover the bases pretty well. 74 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 75 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 4: I mean it was like five six years ago the 76 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 4: Vikings drafted a long snapper in the seventh round out 77 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,239 Speaker 4: of air Force that I did not have in there, 78 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 4: And let me tell you, that stuck with me. 79 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 3: For a while. 80 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 4: So it's my mission to make sure that it doesn't 81 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 4: happen again. And you know, it's tough. 82 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 5: I trust me. 83 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 3: It gets a little. 84 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 4: Nerve wracking there in the later rounds because sometimes you know, 85 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 4: teams just draft. You know, you could have saw one 86 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 4: guy I had one workout and he looked good, and 87 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 4: that's good enough. He wouldn't have been drafted by any 88 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 4: other team, but this one team liked him, and you 89 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 4: never know. So there's almost nineteen hundred players in the 90 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 4: Draft Guide, so there's always a chance maybe one slips through, 91 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 4: but thankfully not this year. All two hundred and fifty 92 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 4: nine picks are in the Draft Guide in some shape 93 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 4: or form. Most of them, almost all of them have 94 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 4: reports the few that don't have all the testing numbers. 95 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 3: So definitely proud of that fact. 96 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 2: Congratulations, seriously, I mean to have that done. And the 97 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,679 Speaker 2: fact that you remember the long snapper from Minnesota tells 98 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 2: me you might not have gotten over it quite yet either. 99 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 3: No, that'll take some time. 100 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 2: Dave Brugloo joins us from the Athletic our Draft Guru, 101 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 2: a resident draft guru. We're breaking down the draft and 102 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 2: you mentioned it. I thought it was a fascinating stat 103 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: that you put out. I mean, we took five of 104 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: your top one hundred players, and we didn't have a 105 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 2: pick till pick number seventy four, So I would say 106 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: a pretty solid job by Andrew Berry and company. What 107 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 2: say you given the whole scope of this Browns draft class. 108 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, obviously my top one hundred is my opinion. It's 109 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 4: not the be all end all. 110 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 3: Of who these players are. 111 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 4: But you know, I think that the Browns, at least 112 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 4: in my opinion, did a really nice job of letting 113 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 4: the draft fall to them and maximizing those picks. I 114 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 4: don't think they went into Day two thinking, all right, 115 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 4: with this first pick, we're going to get that receiver, 116 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 4: that that's who we're targeting. But by the time seventy 117 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,239 Speaker 4: four got around, it just so happens Cedric Tillman still 118 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 4: on the board, and you know, the best, one of 119 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 4: the few ex receivers in this draft. They had a 120 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 4: chance to draft him. And then even you know, in 121 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 4: the later third and the fourth round. I mean, they 122 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 4: did a really nice job letting guys fall to them 123 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 4: and really taking advantage of that. So and in Luke Whippler, 124 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 4: he missed my top one hundred, but he was pretty close. 125 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 4: So he's another guy you could have, you know, even 126 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 4: thrown in there. So you know, the Browns I thought 127 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 4: did a really nice job draft players for the now, 128 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 4: but also the future guys that are going to help 129 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 4: with that immediate depth. But also you know, as you 130 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 4: look as you project forward the twenty twenty four roster, 131 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 4: the twenty twenty five roster, the guys drafted, I think 132 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 4: they're going to play a key role on those rosters. 133 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 2: And I know Nathan and Bo brought it up with 134 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: you on Brown's Daily earlier this week. You know, these 135 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 2: guys that are drafted, they're going to push some of 136 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 2: the current roster guys for spots on this team. Here 137 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: come fall. I don't think you know. It's all about competition. 138 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 2: You hear Kevin Stefanski talking about it and Andrew Berry 139 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 2: talk about it. And you're going to have some really 140 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 2: good competitions with the guys that they bringing in. 141 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 4: Competition breeds the best. I mean, you want that competition 142 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 4: in camp. You want to bring these guys in and 143 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 4: you know, push the veterans, you know, let these young guys, 144 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 4: these hungry young players go out there and try to 145 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 4: earn a spot. 146 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 3: So yeah, no question about it. 147 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 4: And you know, you look at receiver, it's it's a 148 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 4: crowded depth chart right now, and so you know, how 149 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 4: how is that going to play out over the next 150 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 4: few months, especially when you add a Cedric Tillman in 151 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 4: that mix. Obviously Tilman's going to make the team, but 152 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 4: you know, how does that competition in a new body, 153 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 4: How does that affect the rest of the receivers currently 154 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 4: on the roster. And you know, really look at quarterback. 155 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 4: You bring in Dorian Thompson Robinson, you know, there's how's 156 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 4: that going to fit with Kellen Bond And you know, 157 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 4: I think Joshua Dobbs is pretty set as the backup, 158 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 4: but you know, how does that you know, fighting out 159 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 4: for that number three quarterback spot. So plenty of questions 160 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 4: how these draft picks are going to fit on the roster. 161 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 4: But it's it's definitely kind of a wake up call 162 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 4: for some of the you know, the players on the 163 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 4: already on the roster to say, hey, I need to 164 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 4: really step it up in camp this year or I 165 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 4: you know, my roster spot is not guaranteed. 166 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 2: You can subscribe to The Athletic Today and get Dan 167 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 2: Brugler's copy of the Beast, which is every player that 168 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 2: was picked in this twenty twenty three NFL Draft. Also 169 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: some undrafted free agents that at some point we will 170 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 2: learn about more as the week goes on from the 171 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns and from every other team as those become official. 172 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 2: All right, current draft class. Stan Bugler favorite pick in 173 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 2: this Browns draft class. 174 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 4: Hard not to go with Tillman, you know, to get him, 175 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 4: I thought he would go somewhere in that forty to 176 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 4: sixty range, and he would have gone even higher if 177 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 4: not for his injury this year, had the tight rope 178 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 4: ankle surgery. 179 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 3: Going back to. 180 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 4: Last summer when I was studying him based on the 181 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 4: twenty twenty one film, this is a player that was 182 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 4: being talked about as a late one, early two, a 183 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 4: chance to go very high in the draft. Has the 184 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 4: size obviously six three and a half two hundred and 185 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 4: fifteen pounds, good enough speed four five four in the 186 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 4: forty yard dash. I understand that it's not blazing, but 187 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 4: and this is a big player. So he has the 188 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 4: speed to win vertically and win over top defensive backs. 189 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 4: You know, you just look at his vert and his 190 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 4: broad jump thirty seven inches vert ten to eight broad 191 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 4: jump tells you how explosive he is. So this is 192 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 4: a big man with strong hands. You love the ball 193 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 4: skills to catch radius. He does a really nice job 194 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 4: attacking the ball away from his body, and he has 195 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 4: play strength, whether it's as a blocker or down the 196 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 4: field against coverage. So I really like what he brings 197 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 4: to You look at his wide receiver room and I 198 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 4: really like what he brings to it. What he has 199 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 4: to offer something a little bit different than what they have. 200 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 4: So he can be that possession threat on the outside, 201 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 4: but he can also give you a vertical element and 202 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 4: win down the field. And that's something that I think 203 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 4: we'll see immediately. I'm not saying he's going to come 204 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 4: in and be the guy, but he's gonna step in 205 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 4: and be, you know, someone that's gonna help this offense. 206 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 4: And so Cedric Tillman getting him at seventy four, not 207 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 4: just the player, but the value. I really like that 208 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 4: pick for the Browns and Tillman. You know, he doesn't 209 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 4: miss six games with an ankle injury. Is are we 210 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 4: talking about him going in the first round in US 211 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 4: not even getting a chance or even an early quite possibly? 212 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 5: Yeah. 213 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 4: And you know he went over a thousand yards in 214 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 4: twenty twenty one. 215 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 3: He had twelve touchdowns. 216 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 4: I mean, this guy was a playmaker, and you factor 217 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 4: in this year with Hendon Hooker and that explosive offense. 218 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 3: He might have surpassed those numbers. 219 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 4: And if he did, I feel very strongly that he 220 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 4: would have went at somewhere in the top fifty picks, 221 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 4: maybe even as high as that late first round. It's 222 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 4: certainly possible because again, a lot of teams are looking 223 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 4: for that X receiver and he's one of the few 224 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 4: in this class that qualifies. You know, you look at 225 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 4: the first round. You know Jordan Addison and jsn and 226 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 4: you know these are smaller players. Jsen's a slot receiver. 227 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,599 Speaker 4: Z A Flowers a smaller receiver. But then this is 228 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 4: why I didn't think Cedric Tilman would last all the 229 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 4: way to seventy four, because he is a true X 230 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 4: and that gets you excited if you're. 231 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 2: A Browns bugging with Dane Brugler from the Athletics taking 232 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 2: a look at the rest of his draft class. Sciaki 233 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 2: Ika out of Baylor defensive tackle, our defensive coordinator and company, 234 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 2: mister Schwartz getting a guy to really help on the 235 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 2: front lines there, and we'll get to Isaiah McGuire as well. 236 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 2: But two guys, some big bodies on the defensive line 237 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 2: here for the Cleveland Browns. 238 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 3: No doubt six and thirty five pounds. 239 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 4: And I go back to last summer when I first 240 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 4: started studying Eka and one of the first tapes I 241 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 4: watched was the bowl game against Old Miss and he 242 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 4: showed past rush in that game and I was like, Okay, 243 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 4: this is. 244 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 3: Something to work with. 245 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 4: And you know what, he didn't show nearly that same 246 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 4: pass rush as past year, but he wasn't really asked to. 247 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 4: You know, he had a specific role on that defense 248 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 4: for David Randa, right in the middle that mostly a 249 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 4: three man front. He's occupying doubles, he's two gapping. You know, 250 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 4: he's doing his job creating that congestion in the middle 251 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 4: of the line, shutting down the run. 252 00:12:58,920 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 3: But when he does have. 253 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 4: One on one opportunities, you see flashes of pass rush potential. 254 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 4: He's a very nimble three hundred and thirty five pounds, 255 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 4: but also has that power to work with. So he's 256 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 4: going to be a great addition to the rotation on 257 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 4: the defensive front. You know, you work them in and 258 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 4: get these allow these guys to have fresh legs. You know, 259 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 4: that's someone that's going to make everybody on the defense 260 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 4: better because he's just another guy you can add in 261 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 4: there and not miss a beat. 262 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 2: Let's stay on the defensive side of the football. Let's 263 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 2: talk about McGuire. Yeah, and we're already talking d Lion. 264 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 2: I mean from from an edge standpoint. Again, it's a 265 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 2: guy that you can put in the rotation fresh legs, 266 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 2: develop him. He's shown some flashes, had a very good 267 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 2: career at the University of Missouri, and a guy that 268 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 2: could get some valuable reps here on this Cleveland Browns team. 269 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 2: Early on in the season. Potentially the Browns could. 270 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 3: Have drafted Isaiah McGuire at seventy four. 271 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 4: And I don't think anybody would have thought anything of it, 272 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 4: or they would have thought there was a reach or anything, 273 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 4: because that's how highly a lot of people thought of 274 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 4: Isaiah McGuire. Six four and a half two hundred and 275 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 4: sixty eight pounds. You know, he has speed and he 276 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 4: has powerful hands. So you see the speed to power 277 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 4: just that, ask Broderick Jones. Throw all the Georgia tape 278 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 4: and see Isaiah McGuire. 279 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 5: Go to work. 280 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 4: I mean, he was the one pass rusher this year 281 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 4: that really gave Broderick Jones, who was the first round 282 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 4: pick of the Steelers, of course, gave him a lot 283 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 4: of trouble. And so you know, he checks a lot 284 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 4: of boxes for the Browns. He's a younger player, fourth 285 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 4: year senior, but still just twenty one years old, really 286 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 4: productive in the SEC big school. So I think there's 287 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 4: a lot to like about Isaiah McGuire. And I again, 288 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 4: he could have easily gone with one of those two 289 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 4: third round picks, and I thought it would have made sense. Obviously, 290 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 4: the Browns, you know, have one of the best in 291 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 4: the league of Miles Garrett. But what about opposite him? 292 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 4: You know, obviously, you know there's you know, there's optimism 293 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 4: about what it's going to look like this year. But 294 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 4: you know, you bring in Isaiah McGuire, you add him 295 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 4: to the mix, you know, with the rest of the 296 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 4: you know, the two guys that dredged last year with 297 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 4: Right and Thomas and Okuronquo bring him in free agency. 298 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 4: So all of a sudden past rush looking more like 299 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 4: a strength. And again another rotation. Bring these guys in 300 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 4: fresh legs and just keep throwing haymakers at the at 301 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 4: the quarterback get in there and all of a sudden, 302 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 4: you know, it's pass rush is looking more and more 303 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 4: like a strength of this team. 304 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Alex Right, a lot going to be expected 305 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 2: of the second year player. I mean, a guy that 306 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 2: they were high on last year and showed some flashes 307 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 2: toward the end, but really needs to step up and 308 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 2: be that guy on the other end. But he's going 309 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 2: to get some competition from Maguire, no doubt. 310 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 4: And I think you know, Wright was viewed as kind 311 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 4: of like an upside pick, like you like the tools. 312 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 3: It just we have to develop him. And so what 313 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 3: does year two look like for him? 314 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 4: How big of a jump has he been able to 315 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 4: take after one year under his belt, saw some valuable reps, 316 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 4: had a full off season, So definitely interested to see 317 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 4: what he looks like once once we get in the 318 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 4: camp and these guys get back back out there. 319 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 2: That's part one of our interview with the athletics Dan Brugler. 320 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 2: Part two comes up after this quick timeout. 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Well, the best of CBD gets 331 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 2: a little breather and we give you the best of 332 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 2: our off season podcast, known as the best podcast available. 333 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 2: Here's part two of my interview with the great Dane 334 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 2: Brugler from The Athletic, the Draft Guru himself recapping the 335 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: Browns twenty twenty three draft class. All right, in the 336 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 2: fourth round to kick off Day three, he falls to us. 337 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 2: He's an enormous human being, but he's got a lot, 338 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 2: a lot of upside. Dwan Jones from Ohio State at 339 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 2: the tackle position. A lot has been made about him, 340 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 2: and you know how big he is, but he did 341 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 2: play basketball. He's a baller and a guy that again 342 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 2: you can take and given the depth you have at 343 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 2: the offensive line and with the great coaches here in Cleveland, 344 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 2: he gets a chance to develop and really could amount 345 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 2: to something special here for this Cleveland Browns team. 346 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 4: That's the key Coach Callahan, you know, one of the 347 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 4: best offensive line coaches in the league. You're not making 348 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 4: this pick unless coach Callahan gives his sign a sign 349 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 4: off and you know he approves and thinks he can 350 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 4: develop this player. So it's going to be really interesting 351 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 4: to see, you know, Jones coming in. What is he 352 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 4: way in acause that's the weight, It's going to be 353 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 4: something that's monitored. He was three seventy five at the 354 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 4: combine and then chose not to workout or way at 355 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 4: his pro day, and so you know, how how is 356 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 4: that you know, going to play into all of this 357 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 4: with just the weight concerns and you know, making sure 358 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 4: he's staying conditioned and you know, sometimes you got to 359 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 4: motivate him and as long as he is locked in, 360 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 4: this is gonna end up with a link of steel. 361 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 4: But you know, if he's not able to stay locked in, 362 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 4: if he doesn't take the pro coaching, then you know, 363 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, it's more of a risky pick. 364 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 4: But in the fourth round, I think he's well worth 365 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 4: that risk. You know, the potential reward is something that 366 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 4: could really pay off, because this is another young player 367 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 4: still just twenty one years old, fourth year senior. Like 368 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 4: you said, he's a basketball player who I think watching 369 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 4: him this year, you finally felt like he was turning 370 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 4: the corner in terms of becoming a true football player. 371 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 4: Before he identified as a basketball player. That's playing football 372 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 4: Now it's all about being strictly a football player and 373 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 4: nothing else. And I think he's still on that journey 374 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 4: to becoming that guy. But lucky for him, he's coming 375 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 4: to a situation where he's not going to be asked 376 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 4: to start right away. He doesn't have to go out 377 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 4: there and play valuable snaps where you know he's going 378 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 4: to see some of the NFL's top pass rushers. He 379 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 4: can sit, learn and develop, and that's a key part 380 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 4: of this whole thing. 381 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, he'll be one of the more fascinating players to watch. 382 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 2: You will not miss him on the football field. But 383 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 2: if he gets it right and takes to the coaching, 384 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 2: I mean, the sky is the limit for him at 385 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 2: the tackle position. With a couple you know, I mean, 386 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 2: the Browns picked up the option on Jed Wills, but 387 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 2: and Jack Conklin is back for a couple more years. 388 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 2: But Jack Conklin's getting up there in age, and you 389 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 2: can never have enough bodies in that offensive line. 390 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 3: That's it in the day three. 391 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,719 Speaker 4: It takes some swings and see, you know, give me talent, 392 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 4: and you know there's risk involved here, there's no doubt. 393 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 3: I mean, I for me, he was a late, too early, 394 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 3: third round type of player. 395 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 4: I'm surprised he felt all the way out of Day 396 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 4: two just because there's so much there to work with. 397 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 6: Now. 398 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 3: He's not the most nimble mover, that's not his game. 399 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 7: He is. 400 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 4: He's big, he has you know, the wingspans almost eighty 401 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 4: eight inches, crazy size and length. But I thought he 402 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 4: did a really nice job this year with his balance, 403 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 4: did a much better job closing space, getting out and 404 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 4: you know, making sure that he's staying in front of 405 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 4: pass rushers and making it difficult for them to get 406 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 4: around him. So he has you know, once he gets 407 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 4: his hands on you, it's over, especially in the run game. 408 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 4: So he could be a real masher on the edge. 409 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 4: So you know, Dwan Jones is a really interesting player. 410 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 4: And again if he you know, grows up in a 411 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 4: few areas, then all of a sudden, this is going 412 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 4: to look like a steal. 413 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,719 Speaker 2: At the quarterback position. The Browns had a quarterback I 414 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 2: know you had in your mock draft, in your seven 415 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 2: round knock, you had a quarterback going to the Browns. 416 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 2: We thought there could be a chance that they could 417 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 2: add to that room, especially with Josh Dobbs having just 418 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 2: one year, having a one year deal. Someone's got to 419 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 2: be behind Deshaun Watson and guy, maybe you can groom 420 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 2: and they do that in the fifth round. Dorian Thompson Robinson, 421 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 2: quarterback from UCLA. Give me one thing that you like 422 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 2: about him, one thing that he's going to have to 423 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 2: work on here while he's here. 424 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 4: I think what I really liked about him is how 425 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 4: he got better every year, especially this past year as 426 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 4: a fifth year senior. You know, he took advantage of 427 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 4: that COVID year, goes back to school and had by 428 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 4: far his best year production wise. I mean, he's he 429 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 4: was toe for toe with Caleb Williams in that USC game. 430 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 4: A really tough competitor. So you know you like the release. 431 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 4: He's a quick twitch player both with his feet and 432 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 4: his arm. You see playmaking instincts. You see a guy 433 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 4: that has elusive qualities on the move. But he is 434 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 4: a guy that will you know, wants to push the 435 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 4: ball with his arm. You know, he's not a running 436 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 4: quarterback who you know, also happens to throw. The toughness 437 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 4: is off the charts, so there's a lot to like 438 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 4: about what he brings. Now, he's a little bit smaller 439 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 4: than you like he's almost six y two, but he's 440 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 4: you know, right around two hundred and five pounds, so 441 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 4: you know, he he doesn't have necessarily the build that 442 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 4: you want. I think it really just comes down to, 443 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 4: you know, while he has the toughness, he has some 444 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 4: of the playmaking instincts that you want, he needs to 445 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 4: do a better job with taking care of the football 446 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 4: and answering pressure, so negotiating what the pass rusher is 447 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 4: doing and making sure he's making sound decisions. So I 448 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 4: just I think that you know, maybe you know, fans 449 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 4: and all of us being able to underrate how important 450 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 4: that QB two is on the roster. And you know, 451 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 4: the Browns have obviously, you know, with Sean Watson and 452 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 4: his contract, it's important that you have maybe some cheaper 453 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 4: options at the backup quarterback spot. 454 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 3: You have a guy in Thompson Robinson who they believe 455 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 3: can be that guy. 456 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be nice. It'll be nice to see him develop. 457 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 2: You mentioned that game against USC. I mean he was 458 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 2: dinged up, he got bruised and battered, just kept getting 459 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 2: back up and it was a total knockdown slugfest. 460 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 8: For four quarters. 461 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 2: So it was to see. And I know he threw 462 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 2: all over my bowling green Falcons. It happens. It's not 463 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,479 Speaker 2: the first time. It probably be the last. UH in 464 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 2: the fifth route as well. Cameron Mitchell H Corner out 465 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 2: of Northwestern reg Newsom obviously pretty excited to get one 466 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 2: of his college teammates on this football team. But again, 467 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 2: it's a guy that if you know, he doesn't have 468 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 2: to play right away given the room, and he can develop. 469 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 2: But he has shown some flashes as well. 470 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 3: No doubt. 471 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 4: And I talked to him on the phone about a 472 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 4: month ago, just kind of getting some late information from 473 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 4: him and you know, learning more about him, and you know, 474 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 4: he really talked about Newsome as a guy that helped him, 475 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 4: you know, when he got through Northwestern. Really you know, 476 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 4: he's a close friendship with him, still talks, you know, 477 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 4: they have a close friendship, and so obviously you know 478 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 4: there that has been pretty special for those two to 479 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 4: be teammates again. So you know, you love the competitiveness 480 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 4: that he plays with. He's an athletic player. You know, 481 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 4: he might he's one of these guys that might not 482 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 4: have an elite trait, but he's pretty good across the board. 483 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 4: So you know a guy that you know, athleticism check, 484 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 4: aggressiveness check. 485 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 3: You want to see him, you know, play. 486 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 4: Man okay, zoned yes, inside outside, I mean, he has 487 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 4: a lot of those qualities and maybe maybe not a 488 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 4: quick twitch, burst kind of kind of athlete, but he 489 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,479 Speaker 4: stays within, you know, close contact with receivers. He does 490 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 4: a really nice job with his coverage, and you know 491 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 4: he's you know, very his technique matters to him, you know, 492 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 4: and so he can see the way he reads things 493 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 4: and the way he uses his footwork. You know, this 494 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 4: is a guy that that's ready to be a pro. 495 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 4: He he made my top one hundred for a reason. 496 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 5: You know. 497 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 4: I think he's a guy that the ended up going 498 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 4: a little bit later than we thought, but could end 499 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 4: up being a steal for the Browns. 500 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 2: I like to hear that Luke Whippler final Browns pick 501 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 2: sixth rounder center from Ohio State. A guy that I 502 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 2: think many in Columbus thought was going to come back. 503 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 2: It were surprised that he that he came out out. 504 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 2: They thought maybe another year under the tutelage of Ryan 505 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 2: Day and company, he might be as high as a 506 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 2: first or second round pick. Instead, he goes in the 507 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 2: sixth round to the Cleveland Browns and all signs are 508 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 2: you were just talking about Mitchell and and what a 509 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 2: great student of the game he is, Whipler the same thing. 510 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 3: Whippler wants to be great, you know, he doesn't want 511 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 3: to be good, he wants to be great. And six 512 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 3: three three h five. 513 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 4: You know, I gave him an early fifth round grade, 514 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 4: so he went just a little bit later than I 515 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 4: thought he would. But yeah, I agree, this is a 516 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 4: young player who really should have gone back for another 517 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 4: year to get better before making that jump, but he 518 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 4: felt he was ready. 519 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 3: And now it's it's on him. 520 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 4: You know, it's it's to go to camp and you 521 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 4: know you're gonna be duking it out with NFL pros, 522 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 4: and you know, really it's. 523 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 3: Your chance to make your mark. So he's a really 524 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 3: good athlete. 525 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,479 Speaker 4: You know, I think of like a like a Garrett 526 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 4: Bradberry type, and with the way he moved and some 527 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 4: of the range. I like his fit with this offense. 528 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 4: You think about everything they want to be with this offense. 529 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 4: Whippler fits that mold. So you find a guy like 530 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 4: this that down the has down the road starting potential. 531 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 3: I mean, it's a heck of a pick of the 532 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 3: sixth round. 533 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 2: Fantastic job with the Beast again. Get a subscription to 534 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 2: the Athletics. There's some really great stuff on the Athletic 535 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 2: and you get the copy of the Beast and you 536 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 2: get to learn all about all of these guys and 537 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 2: literally every single player in the draft, all the undrafted 538 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 2: free agents that are going to be announced sooner rather 539 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 2: than later. Get some rest, kids, teams up, get the 540 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 2: baseball team right, get the softball team right, get a 541 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 2: little breather, and I know you'll be back at it 542 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 2: before we know it. Appreciate the time and wish you 543 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 2: all the best here in the offseason, and go reacclimate 544 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 2: yourself to your family for a few months. 545 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 3: Thank you, man, pleasure is all mine. I always appreciate. 546 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 5: Talking to you. 547 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 2: Thanks again to Dane Brugler for all of his help 548 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 2: year in and year. I'm going to say there is 549 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 2: no one better at what he does than Dane Brugler. 550 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 2: You can still get his copy of The Beast the 551 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 2: Draft Guide if you want to know about these guys 552 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 2: going into training camp. He still has everything up. You 553 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 2: can get a comprehensive bio of every player, a breakdown 554 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 2: of every player. You can do that by subscribing today 555 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 2: to the Athletic dot Com. We'll take a quick break 556 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 2: when we return in just a couple of minutes. Brown's 557 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 2: Rookie Defensive End Isaiah McGuire. You're listening to the best 558 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 2: of the best podcast available on Cleveland Browns Daily, brought 559 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 2: to you by Bally Bett, a sports betting partner of 560 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 2: your Cleveland Browns Coming soon to Ohio. 561 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bally Bet Coming 562 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: soon too, Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 563 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 2: Welcome back into Cleveland Browns Daily on a fifty ESPN Cleveland, 564 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 2: Jason gives with you today the best of the best 565 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 2: podcast available Right now your chance to hear from rookie 566 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 2: defensive end Isaiah McGuire. We talked with him on Rookie 567 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 2: Mini Camp Weekend. Isaiah McGuire, our new defensive and from 568 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 2: the University of Missouri. So I have a great story 569 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 2: about the University of Missouri. We played out there. I 570 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 2: went to Bowling Green. Okay, all right, this is way 571 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 2: back this when were you born? 572 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 5: Oh one? 573 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, great, fantastic guy. Like six years before you were 574 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 2: even born, I was doing this. So we went out 575 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 2: there and we upset Missouri. Okay, okay, big win for 576 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 2: Bowling Green, big moment. I wasn't on that trip. The 577 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 2: following year, we went back out there, and you guys 578 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 2: had a guy by the name of Kolby Jones. He 579 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 2: was a quarterback. They were a top five team in 580 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 2: the country. I'm the sideline reporter. Your fans threw oranges 581 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 2: at me. Because the Orange Bowl was the national championship game. 582 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 2: We got covered in orange is. Our coach pulled the 583 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 2: team off the field. They had to make an announcement 584 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 2: to stop throwing oranges at us. Where you guys were 585 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 2: gonna have to forfeit? Wow, not kidding, it was I 586 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,719 Speaker 2: smelled like orange. I never got a chance to shower 587 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 2: after the game. We were on a plane home. It 588 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 2: was one hundred degrees. But it was a fantastic stadium. 589 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 2: Like fans sitting on the grass rock him. Uh huh. Yeah, 590 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 2: it was a pretty fantastic little stadium. So welcome to Cleveland. Sorry, 591 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 2: not about me, it's about him. Isaiah Maguire joins us 592 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 2: here on the show. What's it been like since you 593 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 2: walked into the Cross Country Mortgage campus? 594 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 9: Honestly, like I said, it's been a blessing that guy. 595 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 9: Give the glory to God for me to be a 596 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 9: part of this organization, especially with a lot of rich 597 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 9: history at this organization, you know, being the Cleveland Browns 598 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 9: and all the great players that have been through this organization, 599 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 9: you know, for me to be a part of that 600 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 9: and now start my journey to stamp my name in 601 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 9: this organization, it's truly a blessing. 602 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 2: Was there a moment? Was there a moment where you 603 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 2: just kind of stopped and took it all in and 604 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 2: then said, I can't believe I'm here. I can't believe 605 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 2: this is happening. 606 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 9: Honestly, for me, it was when I was able to 607 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 9: see my locker and seeing the you know, the players 608 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 9: I'm next to and the players that are a cross 609 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 9: from me. It's like, man, I've been looking at these 610 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 9: players for years and now you know I'm their locker 611 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 9: made or you know their teammate now, and you know 612 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 9: I'm going to learn from them, and grows as a player, 613 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 9: grow as a person. 614 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 2: Like I said, I'm just all excited. So growing up, 615 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 2: you end up going to Missouri from Oklahoma? 616 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 5: Yes, sir? 617 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 2: What made you go to the University of Missouri? Missouri? 618 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 9: So for me, I wasn't necessarily heavy recruit out of 619 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 9: high school. So Missouri's my only player of five offer, 620 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 9: So I feel like God made it easy for my decision. 621 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 2: That's pretty good. Sure, absolutely, sir. You gained playing time 622 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 2: right away as a freshman, Yes, sir, work your way 623 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 2: up up senior year. You were all SEC in some publications, 624 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 2: which is pretty great considering the talent level for sure 625 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 2: in the SEC. Is there a moment that you will 626 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 2: always remember about your time at Missouri? There is there 627 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 2: a stand up motor? Is there a favorite moment? Favorite moment? 628 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 9: M I feel like that's pretty hard to pick from, 629 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 9: you know, for me, honestly, just being in the locker 630 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 9: room with my teammates and spending time with them, and 631 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 9: being in the indoor with them doing extra work, or 632 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 9: whether it's you know, after practice or workouts or whatnot, 633 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 9: and just going and hanging out with each other at 634 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 9: you know, someone's apartment or someone's door room, you. 635 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 2: Know, whatever it may be. 636 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 9: So for us at you know, at at the University Missouri, 637 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 9: defensive line was a pretty tight knit group. So for us, 638 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 9: like I said, we we know family, that was our 639 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 9: big model thing or d Lion's it was what we 640 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 9: called it, you know, our fraternity per se. So honestly, 641 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 9: just just being around those guys and being in a 642 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 9: locker room and you know, having an impact on as 643 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 9: many people as I can in that building for sure. 644 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 2: All Right, So leadership is a big part of who 645 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 2: you are. That's what it sounds like. You were voted 646 00:31:55,640 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 2: captain your senior ye're at Missouri. What is it to 647 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 2: be a good leader in your opinion, honestly. 648 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 9: Just doing the right things, you know, first and foremost, 649 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 9: you can't necessarily try to lead someone and tell them 650 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 9: do something where you're not doing it. So you have 651 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 9: to have that accountability for yourself as a player, as 652 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 9: a person, as a teammate to do those right things. Secondly, obviously, 653 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 9: like I said, just making an impact and you know, 654 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 9: having an impact on people as a person, you have 655 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 9: to you know, have that gravitational pull you know, for 656 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 9: people to want to follow you. And obviously, you know, 657 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,239 Speaker 9: making plays on the field definitely kind of put you 658 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 9: in that limelight. But it's just it's more about it's 659 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 9: more than just making plays, you know. It's like I said, 660 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 9: and having those one on one interactions with people in 661 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 9: the locker room, you know at Miszoo college wise, whether 662 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 9: it's a walk on, whether it's a scholarship player, whether 663 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 9: it's the janitor, whether it's the training staff, just building 664 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 9: those relationships to where you know, we're all on the 665 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 9: same page and don't on accurt. 666 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 2: It's pretty good, not too shabby at all. So how 667 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 2: do you as a leader? You better leader at MISSOU? 668 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 2: How do you come in here when you're the new guy? 669 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 5: For sure? 670 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 2: Like how do you lead? You have to change your 671 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 2: leadership style at all. 672 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 9: It's not even necessarily that it's just starts all over again, honestly, 673 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 9: like I said, pretty much like being a freshman again 674 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 9: to where you like I said, you're just doing the 675 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 9: right things and you're putting your head down, you're working 676 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 9: continuously picking you know, picking the brains of the veterans, 677 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 9: like I said, building those relationships with everyone in the building. So, 678 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 9: like I said, even miss Katie in the building, I'm 679 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 9: building a great relationship with her in terms of, like 680 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 9: I said, just being new and being present. I'm spending 681 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 9: that extra time to accomplish the things that I want 682 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 9: to accomplish, but also, like said, helping this team win 683 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 9: a lot of football games. 684 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 2: What has the process been since that final game in 685 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 2: a Missouri uniform to now? Because it tends to be 686 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 2: a whirlwind and it takes a lot. You know, a 687 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 2: lot of the rookies have said, like, you really don't 688 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 2: get a chance. The veterans, I should say, have told us, 689 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 2: you don't really get a chance to catch your breath 690 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 2: until after your rookie season, when you actually have an 691 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 2: off season. There is there has not been an off season. 692 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 2: What has that been like since your last stay in 693 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 2: the MISSOI uniform? 694 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 9: Honestly, you know, picking back it off of what the 695 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 9: veterans said, it's true thus far. Like I said, you know, 696 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 9: you finish your senior season or you know, whatever year 697 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 9: you decide to declare for the NFL Draft, and now 698 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 9: you have to pick an agent. Now you have to 699 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 9: pick what place you want to train at. Now you 700 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 9: have to improve this, improve that. Now you're talking scouts 701 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 9: or you know, whoever it may be calling you or whatnot, 702 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 9: and a lot of people may be in your ear, 703 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 9: but you still have to block out all that noise 704 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,879 Speaker 9: and focus on what's ahead of you. You know, keep 705 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 9: the main thing. The main thing is what my dad 706 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 9: likes to say. So I said, just having the mindset 707 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 9: to stay grounded, stay focused, keep the right people around you, 708 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 9: and you know, everything will become success. 709 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 2: Tight family absolutely, how many siblings five brothers, youngest, I 710 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 2: am the middle or you're right in the middle, in 711 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 2: the middle. What was that like growing. 712 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:02,919 Speaker 5: Up so one? 713 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 9: I mean, like so I have two older step brothers 714 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 9: and three younger biological brothers, and like I said, going 715 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 9: to visit my family, you know, with my stepbrothers, you know, 716 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 9: kind of being the little brother that got picked on, 717 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 9: but definitely helped me kind of grow up just a 718 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 9: little bit a little tag get a little bit tougher 719 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 9: growing up for sure, you know, I said, also being 720 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,720 Speaker 9: a role model for my for my younger brothers. 721 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 2: In terms of like I said, this is how you 722 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 2: want to conduct yourself, carey yourself. 723 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:31,240 Speaker 9: Growing up through whether it's your teenage years, college years 724 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 9: and now being a professional athlete. You don't be more 725 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 9: of an adult rather than anything. It's just continue to 726 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 9: be that role model because they're always looking for. 727 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 2: Sure, now do the younger to play football? 728 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 9: So my two younger fraternal twin brothers, the youngest they 729 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 9: will play sports of it. 730 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure they're in soccer right now. 731 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 9: My dad's trying to take time to develop, make sure 732 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 9: their brains developed. 733 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 2: And you know, no, I get and find what they 734 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 2: actually joy for sure. Okay, all right, Yeah, I went 735 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 2: through the whole soccer scer with my kids. I was 736 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 2: quite pleased when soccer ended and we can move on 737 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,919 Speaker 2: to something. No disrespect to soccer, but yeah, I'm disrespecting 738 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 2: soccer in terms of who you wanted to get to 739 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 2: know here. What's it been like since you've been in 740 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 2: the building working with Jim Schwartz, with Ben Bloom, who 741 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 2: is one of our favorites, just the defense as a whole. 742 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 2: What's it been like as you get ready Now you're 743 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 2: going to meet a lot of the veterans this week 744 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 2: for sure, you know when OTA is starting working through 745 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 2: mini camp. But have you gotten a chance to get 746 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,760 Speaker 2: to know a lot of those guys or the coaches. 747 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 2: Yet primarily the coaches. 748 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 9: Like I said, I spending time with Coach Bloom and 749 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 9: you know Coach Thomas in a defensive line room, and 750 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 9: I really haven't haven't had as many conversations with Coach Schwartz, 751 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 9: but I believe those will happen down the road. Obviously 752 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 9: with a lot of time on our hands, you know, 753 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 9: investing time in that building doing my football games. And 754 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 9: like I said, just again us no. The personnel and 755 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 9: like I said, everyone's in there is very januine and 756 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 9: they care about you as a person. So it's a 757 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 9: great culture in there, and that does nothing but make 758 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 9: a player for more comfortable in terms of environment to 759 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 9: be successful. 760 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 2: Your former teammate Jordan Elliott, have you got a chance 761 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:17,760 Speaker 2: to talk with him since you got drafted? 762 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 9: Finally, I actually have not gotten a chance to talk 763 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 9: with him yet, but I definitely know when he gets here, 764 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 9: I'm trying to side if I want to jump on 765 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 9: and give him a big hug or you know, keep 766 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 9: it cool and cordial. But you know, those are one 767 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 9: of the players that I looked up to, you know, 768 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 9: when I was a freshman. You know, it was his 769 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 9: last year in Missoo going out. Like I said, he 770 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 9: was always a guy that did the right things and 771 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 9: did extra and you know, always had a mental sharp 772 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 9: focus about himself as a person. So he carried himself 773 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 9: as a pro before he actually got to the pros. 774 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 2: What is your goal here before the team breaks, you know, 775 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 2: for the for a quick little summer break on June eighth, 776 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 2: you know, what's your goal here for the next month? 777 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 9: Honestly, just improve as a player, improve my fundamentals, to 778 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 9: my technique, get to know that playbook really well. Pick 779 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,800 Speaker 9: the into the veterans, like I said, you know, for 780 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 9: in those you know, for those guys, those are my mentors. 781 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 9: And like I said, for me to be the player 782 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 9: that I want to be, I have to you know, 783 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 9: kind of get under their wing or whatnot. Like I said, 784 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 9: it's been literally being a freshman again. And like I said, 785 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 9: picking their brain and figuring out, you know, what what 786 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 9: is your routine and how you take care of your body. 787 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 9: You know, what do you eat, how do you study film, 788 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 9: how do you do work outside? What is the right time, 789 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 9: When is the right time the rest your body so 790 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 9: you don't get burnt out. 791 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 2: Just those different things. Honestly, all right, if if you 792 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 2: have it, do you believe in a cheat day or 793 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:33,800 Speaker 2: a cheat meal. 794 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 5: Day? 795 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 2: I got a bad I got a bad sweet too? 796 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, what what's to go to? 797 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 5: A lot of sweets? 798 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 8: I mean? 799 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,280 Speaker 2: Is there is there a favorite? Is there a pie? 800 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 2: Is there a cookies? 801 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 9: My grammy sweet potato pie is the best dessert in 802 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 9: the world for me. That's just my personal opinion, but 803 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 9: kind of a fact. 804 00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 2: Also you. 805 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 9: Name it fruit, snacks, cookies and what I like. Said, 806 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 9: but even on a cheat day, I have to limit myself. 807 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 2: Everything's got to be in moderation, got to absolutely is 808 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 2: there if you can only eat one food for the 809 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:14,439 Speaker 2: rest of your life, what would you eat? 810 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 6: Mmm? 811 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 2: Oh that's a great question. Honestly. Is it like a 812 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 2: certain type of food or it can be you know me, 813 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 2: I love pizza, Okay, I can eat pizza any anytime, 814 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 2: any day. I can. I can see that answer. I 815 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 2: respect that answer. Man. For me, it will have to 816 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 2: be some type of variation of barbecue, okay, sure, all right, ribs, chicken, 817 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 2: pull pork. I'm not a close lafe land all right 818 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 2: and at all? Okay, baked beans of course, with a 819 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 2: brisket in it got to biscuit. They do a fantastic 820 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 2: in the cafe, a little brisket. I'm excited for it. 821 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 2: You should be. They do a fantastic job. Wishing the 822 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,879 Speaker 2: young defensive end from Missouri all the best. We'll take 823 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 2: a quick time out our one in the books. It 824 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 2: was a quick one. On to our number two. Coming 825 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 2: up after the break, you'll hear from Caid York running 826 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:21,280 Speaker 2: back Jerome Ford free agent acquisition Obo Okoronquo, and former 827 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 2: Buckeye and Brown's rookie center Luke Whippler. 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Kicking off Hour two with Brown's 844 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 2: second year kicker Kade York from Brown's rookie mini camp. 845 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 2: He's got a new special teams coordinator in Bubba van Trom, 846 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 2: He's got a new system that he's working on, and 847 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,280 Speaker 2: well it's year two, so what adjustments is he making? 848 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 2: Have a listen here to our interview with Kad York. 849 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:43,320 Speaker 2: How are you, buddy? Fantastic? The weather, no complaints, can't complain. 850 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 2: Seventy one degrees, a little hazy, but a nice breeze. 851 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 10: Not very realistic for the season, but enjoy Wild's here. 852 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 2: You and I were having this conversation. You're like, if 853 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,320 Speaker 2: it's two degrees, I don't know, can you really complain? 854 00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:01,319 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, Christmas Eve, not ideal, but here we are. 855 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 2: You're one in the books. And I talked to Jerome 856 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 2: Ford about this how different has the off season been 857 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 2: because you really didn't have an off season. When you're 858 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 2: a rookie and you get drafted, you're right into it. 859 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 2: No off season. 860 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 10: Yeah, it's especially for me, it's like kicking wise, you 861 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,359 Speaker 10: kind of go through like ramp up periods and then 862 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 10: de sale periods and breaks and stuff like that. Rookie season, 863 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 10: it's like you start up spring because in college you 864 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,799 Speaker 10: go the whole summer, so you basically you go springball. 865 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 10: You take a break after you're my sophomore season, than 866 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:39,879 Speaker 10: I start up in spring ball, and I don't really 867 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:45,800 Speaker 10: stop kicking until January of twenty twenty three, so it's 868 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 10: getting close to two years straight of just kicking without 869 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,719 Speaker 10: a real solid break. So I definitely took some very 870 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 10: solid time off and it's definitely a big change in 871 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,879 Speaker 10: perspective and like how you your outlook on everything coming 872 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,800 Speaker 10: because you come in and it's kind of big eyes 873 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,839 Speaker 10: and look around in the locker room and see all 874 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 10: these guys you see on TV, and then it's, uh, 875 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,880 Speaker 10: you start having all these expectations for the seasons, everyone 876 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 10: telling you how it's gonna be, and then you finally 877 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 10: get the experience it for yourself and know what you 878 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 10: need to focus on for the next year and what 879 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 10: is a big deal, and what's a bigger deal than 880 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 10: you thought, And it kind of just gives you all 881 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,840 Speaker 10: these you know what to expect and what to to 882 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 10: really focus on and to improve for next year. And 883 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:32,359 Speaker 10: it's it's definitely weight off the shoulders going into year two, 884 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 10: because I think part of it's kind of just treading 885 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:36,880 Speaker 10: water your first year and you just want to make 886 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 10: sure you stay in the league, and then now you 887 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 10: know what to expect and you get to move forward 888 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 10: and start to swim rather than just dreadwater. 889 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 2: What's the biggest thing you learned in your rookie season. 890 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,400 Speaker 10: I think the biggest thing I learned is actually that 891 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 10: I focused way too much on trying to be a kicker, 892 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 10: like a better kicker to deal with the weather, when 893 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 10: really I was all right that kicker. I just needed 894 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 10: to keep doing what I had been doing, because to 895 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,800 Speaker 10: be honest, the weather was never the problem. I would 896 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 10: just focus so much on that that I would almost 897 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:10,880 Speaker 10: put so much on that that when it came to 898 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,720 Speaker 10: other stuff that was almost like should be like simple, 899 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 10: what one would call simple, that it was just like 900 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 10: I would brain fart and like that's when stuff would 901 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,880 Speaker 10: go wrong. So I think knowing that I can handle 902 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 10: the weather and the wind is Yes, it sucks and 903 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 10: it's hard to deal with, but I'm capable of it. 904 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 10: It's not something I need to do something special for. 905 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 10: I just have to account for it. Knowing that is Uh. 906 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 10: I think it's going to be important for me going 907 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:38,919 Speaker 10: in this next year. 908 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 2: Is the NFL is it more mental than maybe college? 909 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 10: In the college game, I would say there's added stressors 910 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 10: on the mental but like just like the sole game, No, 911 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 10: it's not more mental. It's just now there's more outside 912 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,959 Speaker 10: pressures outside the game. It's you have a contract, it's 913 00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,359 Speaker 10: how you make money, it's your families and stuff that. 914 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 10: So it's there's that added on to it. But I 915 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 10: wouldn't say it's like purely out on the field, I'm 916 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 10: not thinking about that stuff, so it's just the game. Still, 917 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 10: I wouldn't say it's extra. I think more I'm at 918 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,800 Speaker 10: a higher level. So I wanted to take things to 919 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 10: a higher level. And that's when I started like, Okay, 920 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 10: I'm going to do all this so I can make 921 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,240 Speaker 10: sure that I'm really good when it gets super windy 922 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,080 Speaker 10: and when it's really cold and all this stuff, when 923 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 10: really I already was good when it came to that stuff. 924 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 10: It's just windier and colder, and you just have to 925 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 10: account for it. I think that was kind of just 926 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,839 Speaker 10: that's the first thing people brought up. Like literally five 927 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 10: minutes after got drafted, I got on a phone call 928 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 10: and my dad's jeep in the parking lot of walk 929 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 10: Ons and Remember, and the first question is like, how 930 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 10: are you gonna deal with zero degrees and forty five 931 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:44,839 Speaker 10: mile an hour wins. 932 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:50,319 Speaker 2: I'm like, uh, it's really nice right now I'm in 933 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 2: a jeep. But so it was. 934 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,359 Speaker 10: I think I just I that people hype that up 935 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 10: to me too much, and I take response, I took 936 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,799 Speaker 10: too much account for or and I just really and 937 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 10: I did well focusing on it, but then I let 938 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,160 Speaker 10: other things fall the wayside. And I think knowing I 939 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 10: can deal with that and just being who I am 940 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,800 Speaker 10: as a kicker is what I need to do better. 941 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 2: Is there such a thing as kicking too much? You know, 942 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,839 Speaker 2: you mentioned it from like the season ended, and you 943 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 2: said this the off season, you've been able to rest 944 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,440 Speaker 2: a little bit and take a break and walk away. 945 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,760 Speaker 2: You never really had that. I mean, you were kicking 946 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,239 Speaker 2: from the moment you touched down here in Cleveland and 947 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,240 Speaker 2: you never really got a chance to stop. 948 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 10: Yeah, So I would say, as like from my freshman 949 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,799 Speaker 10: year of high school and I started kicking till now, 950 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,359 Speaker 10: every year I've kicked less and less and less, and 951 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 10: even this year, i'd say, before I went and really 952 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,800 Speaker 10: kicked less than fifty to seventy five balls when I 953 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,319 Speaker 10: would go out and kick anytime, and now I don't think. 954 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,880 Speaker 10: I don't think I've touched fifty kicks at once. And 955 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,160 Speaker 10: I don't want to say that. People might take that 956 00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:59,960 Speaker 10: as he's not working hard on and He's like, no, 957 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,719 Speaker 10: it's I just got to be super intentional about every 958 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 10: rep and not and kick until I don't want to 959 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,359 Speaker 10: kick until I'm tired. I want to kick and still 960 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 10: feel good at the end of my session. Because on 961 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,600 Speaker 10: game days, you're not going to have that game age. 962 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,200 Speaker 10: You're probably gonna be tired than me because it's a 963 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,320 Speaker 10: you got to be swarm up an hour and a 964 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:18,840 Speaker 10: half two hours for the game, and you have to 965 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,839 Speaker 10: stay warm for a three and a half hour game, 966 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:25,320 Speaker 10: So it's you got to keep your body prepared in 967 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 10: shape for that, not trying to beat it up every 968 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:29,200 Speaker 10: time you go and kick a ball. 969 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,560 Speaker 2: So I've gotten better about that. Your new special teams coordinator, 970 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 2: Bob but Van Trone was on Cleveland Browns Daily a 971 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 2: few weeks ago and he said, it's you know, some 972 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 2: guys like to kick one hundred and fifty two hundred 973 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,839 Speaker 2: balls in a season, like craziness, how long, how much 974 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,359 Speaker 2: they want to kick some guys don't. Like you have 975 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,680 Speaker 2: to find that middle ground and you have to find 976 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,239 Speaker 2: what works. And has that been the case for you 977 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,759 Speaker 2: here as you've gone through here, especially now with a 978 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:56,839 Speaker 2: new coordinator. 979 00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 10: I'm definitely not someone that doesn't like to kick a 980 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 10: lot of I like to kick more balls than other 981 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,279 Speaker 10: people would say. Well, I'm also learning to dial because 982 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 10: it's almost like like I'm yearning to like work harder, 983 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,479 Speaker 10: because that's always like I was like, did I really 984 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 10: get like enough work today? Like did I like get 985 00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,840 Speaker 10: better today? And I feel like sometimes I equate that 986 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,440 Speaker 10: kicking more footballs when really I need to equate that 987 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,719 Speaker 10: to being intentional and not just wasting a rep and 988 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,480 Speaker 10: just going out there and swinging for no reason exactly. 989 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,880 Speaker 2: It's making the kick count it's making every kick count yep. 990 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,120 Speaker 2: And it's not like every kid. 991 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,480 Speaker 10: I'm not saying I need to make every kick in press, 992 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,960 Speaker 10: but it's I'm accomplishing something on every kick and whether 993 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,040 Speaker 10: it's I'm trying to accomplish keeping the Okay, I kept 994 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:39,879 Speaker 10: the right hit back there, but I missed it because 995 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 10: I didn't do something else. I still kept the right 996 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,439 Speaker 10: hit back and now I can add add the two 997 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 10: together for the next rep and stuff like that. 998 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,120 Speaker 2: It's almost like golf. Yep. It's exactly like golf. I 999 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,239 Speaker 2: get in my own head currently. A week ago, I've 1000 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,520 Speaker 2: wanted to quit the game of golf, and then Sunday 1001 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 2: I'm played really well and now I'm back in. 1002 00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,759 Speaker 10: At some point in every round, everyone wants to quit. Well, 1003 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,320 Speaker 10: if last week you would have been like, maybe you 1004 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,880 Speaker 10: should quit. I've thrown a couple of clubs this offseason, 1005 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:09,279 Speaker 10: so I understand. 1006 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 2: I have a great club throwing story. I've done it 1007 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,040 Speaker 2: once and I won't do it again, and it is 1008 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:19,239 Speaker 2: not for this podcast have I might have broken a 1009 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:23,239 Speaker 2: putter and maybe also damaged some golf course equipment in 1010 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,439 Speaker 2: the process because the club took a right turn left 1011 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,920 Speaker 2: turns to hit the R No, No, it definitely was 1012 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,479 Speaker 2: not good talking with Katie York here on the best 1013 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:37,440 Speaker 2: podcast available. So what has what is the difference from 1014 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 2: last year to this year in terms of the coordinator? 1015 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,040 Speaker 2: You know new and I'm not I'm not asking you 1016 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,839 Speaker 2: about Coach Prief because we all have a special spot 1017 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 2: in our hearts for Coach Prief. But you have a 1018 00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:51,959 Speaker 2: new guy in Bubba ben Trum. What is he brought 1019 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:52,439 Speaker 2: to your room? 1020 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,920 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I'm again, I'd never say anything bad 1021 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,520 Speaker 10: about I love the reason I'm here. He I had 1022 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,879 Speaker 10: an amazing experienced him in the whole draft process. And yes, 1023 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:06,080 Speaker 10: everybody has their personality when it comes in the building, 1024 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,280 Speaker 10: out of the building, on the field, off the field, 1025 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 10: and you got to accept her when for the are 1026 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:12,920 Speaker 10: And I haven't even seen Bubba on the field, so 1027 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,880 Speaker 10: who knows what he's going to be like. But Bubba 1028 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 10: is definitely like They both are very high energy guys. 1029 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,400 Speaker 10: But the difference is Bubba was a player, and I 1030 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:25,040 Speaker 10: think there comes a different perspective with that, and Bubba 1031 00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:26,680 Speaker 10: brings a lot of energy, but a lot of it's 1032 00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:28,920 Speaker 10: positive energy and he'll push you in your place, So 1033 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,760 Speaker 10: you need to put in your place. But he's also 1034 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,520 Speaker 10: gonna tell you good job and give you a slap 1035 00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,520 Speaker 10: on the on the button, give you high five and 1036 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,560 Speaker 10: all that stuff when you do something well. And it's 1037 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,680 Speaker 10: been it's been cool to be around because he's kind 1038 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:44,120 Speaker 10: of been the yind to my yang when it comes 1039 00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:47,880 Speaker 10: to I'm super driven and like trying to like again 1040 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:49,959 Speaker 10: like kick a lot of ballstuff that, He's like, Cage, 1041 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,360 Speaker 10: you're doing a good job. Like you don't need to 1042 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,680 Speaker 10: kick a thousand balls like that. Rep look good. You 1043 00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,840 Speaker 10: don't need to change anything. Just continue to do that. 1044 00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,120 Speaker 10: Or when I try and add another thing to make 1045 00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,000 Speaker 10: my kick better, he's like, Nope, you're doing just fine 1046 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,160 Speaker 10: like that. Just keep doing that. That's gonna work. He 1047 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,279 Speaker 10: kind of like pulls me back on pulls back on 1048 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,359 Speaker 10: the reins, so which is nice and it's been cool 1049 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:08,920 Speaker 10: to be around. 1050 00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:10,520 Speaker 2: Do you think he can still play? 1051 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,239 Speaker 10: I have seen him like I've been doing, like I've 1052 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,160 Speaker 10: been working out a lot doing. Like I'll go in 1053 00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,080 Speaker 10: there like on a Saturday Sunday and if I see 1054 00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,799 Speaker 10: anybody in there, it's usually him or coach s Tafanski 1055 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,719 Speaker 10: in there and public can run. Yeah, he can probably 1056 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,440 Speaker 10: outrun me. Or now, because I don't run that much 1057 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,799 Speaker 10: these days, and I've seen him gone. He can move 1058 00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:33,600 Speaker 10: and he's yoked up. 1059 00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,200 Speaker 2: Every I was gonna say, every time I walk through 1060 00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,399 Speaker 2: the fieldhouse on my way to go put down three 1061 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:42,279 Speaker 2: thousand calories at lunch, I'm like, hey, look at this 1062 00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:42,759 Speaker 2: guy over it. 1063 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,080 Speaker 10: He's got that walk that just has that bounce in it. 1064 00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:45,680 Speaker 5: Uh huh. 1065 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:47,439 Speaker 2: I think he could take off. 1066 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:48,040 Speaker 8: At any moment. 1067 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,520 Speaker 2: How's the golf game? Golf games solid these days? 1068 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,239 Speaker 10: It's it's when I first got back to Cleveland, it 1069 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,439 Speaker 10: was really solid. Then I hit this loll I got 1070 00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,560 Speaker 10: some new irons and I kind of struggle get him 1071 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:03,720 Speaker 10: and play. And then about a week before the golf outing, 1072 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,040 Speaker 10: I started back hitting them. Well again, I'm probably hanging. 1073 00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,680 Speaker 10: I'm like eighty to eighty five right now. I'm waiting 1074 00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,359 Speaker 10: for it to be all put together for one round. 1075 00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:18,359 Speaker 10: I'm seventy to seventy eight. I'm hoping during my one 1076 00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,200 Speaker 10: month sabbatical when we go away, I'll find find a 1077 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,840 Speaker 10: stride and hit some low scores. 1078 00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,360 Speaker 2: That's usually how this goes. Oh yeah, you figure it 1079 00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,920 Speaker 2: out right. We start training golf seasons out of yea 1080 00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,160 Speaker 2: and by the end of July, we're putting the club. 1081 00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:32,480 Speaker 10: So that's what I'm gonna buy. I would be able 1082 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:36,680 Speaker 10: to scratch golfer if I didn't play football, I like, 1083 00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,799 Speaker 10: because golf season needs you to go play the girl 1084 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:39,640 Speaker 10: and whoop him. 1085 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:40,359 Speaker 2: No, I can't. 1086 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,560 Speaker 10: He was in the group in front of me at 1087 00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,040 Speaker 10: the Foundation. He can stripe his driver. I think I 1088 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,640 Speaker 10: could maybe compete with irons and wedge play, but I 1089 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:50,919 Speaker 10: can't drive it like he can. 1090 00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:52,839 Speaker 2: He can hit the ball far. 1091 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,160 Speaker 10: He did see me drop like a fifty foot plug 1092 00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,120 Speaker 10: for eagle, though, So I think I got in his head. 1093 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:02,040 Speaker 2: On that one. Perfect good. I like that anytime anybody 1094 00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:03,680 Speaker 2: can get in his head and mess him up, I'm 1095 00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:08,640 Speaker 2: totally for that. Talking with Cade York, big plans for 1096 00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,960 Speaker 2: the next for the little sabbatical here, I wouldn't say 1097 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:12,680 Speaker 2: big plans. 1098 00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:16,120 Speaker 10: I'm excited though, because, like I am so, I'm twenty 1099 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,480 Speaker 10: two and all my friends are still in college or 1100 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,120 Speaker 10: just now getting out of college some of them. So 1101 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,359 Speaker 10: it's like this last spring while I was home, I 1102 00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,680 Speaker 10: was like, I was excited to go home, and I 1103 00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,279 Speaker 10: was like I got home, like wait, it's like the 1104 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,080 Speaker 10: only people in town are high schoolers. 1105 00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,399 Speaker 2: And adults. I have nothing to do. 1106 00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,799 Speaker 10: So now everyone's out of school for the summer, so 1107 00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,719 Speaker 10: I get to I'm going to Lake Martin all my 1108 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,919 Speaker 10: lshoe specialist buddies. One of them has a lake house 1109 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,280 Speaker 10: up there, going to hang out there for a few days. 1110 00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:48,080 Speaker 10: Harrison's wedding is this summer with and I actually went 1111 00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,960 Speaker 10: to high school with his wife, so or his soon 1112 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:52,960 Speaker 10: to be wife. She's a few years older than me, 1113 00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,440 Speaker 10: and so they're getting married like right next to my hometown. 1114 00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,560 Speaker 10: So I'll go home for that, and I might go 1115 00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,759 Speaker 10: to California for some golf and then, but for the 1116 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,960 Speaker 10: most part, I'll keep I'll stay here in Cleveland and 1117 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,320 Speaker 10: just flies places when I need to go somewhere. 1118 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,160 Speaker 2: But I'm excited to see some friends. I know, I 1119 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,879 Speaker 2: gotta let you go here, and I gotta let you run. 1120 00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,080 Speaker 2: Just a quick thought on that room and your specialist 1121 00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,799 Speaker 2: room with Corey and Charlie. In the relationship to three 1122 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,919 Speaker 2: of you guys, it's so interesting because I think you'll 1123 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,200 Speaker 2: look around the league and it's like sometimes it's like 1124 00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,239 Speaker 2: a bunch of young guys, sometimes a bunch of old guys, 1125 00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,160 Speaker 2: and we're like split like one, two, three. 1126 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,359 Speaker 10: We have and Joe too, because show's here right now. 1127 00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,640 Speaker 2: Good golfer two. Joe's pretty good golf. 1128 00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,200 Speaker 10: We have me, a twenty two year old that has 1129 00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,520 Speaker 10: nothing to his name but a dog, basically like and 1130 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:40,000 Speaker 10: I have like right a house. We have Joe, who 1131 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,520 Speaker 10: is from South Carolina a few years older than me 1132 00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,920 Speaker 10: here living with Charlie right now. And then there's Corey 1133 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,200 Speaker 10: who's twenty six I think how just had his first 1134 00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:53,440 Speaker 10: child beginning last season, freshly married and living here. And 1135 00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,680 Speaker 10: then Charlie's thirty two has three old stage one, so 1136 00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,040 Speaker 10: it's like we're spread out across. We're all in three 1137 00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,880 Speaker 10: different like stages life, and it's like it was kind 1138 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,240 Speaker 10: of weird for me coming into it because I'm like, Okay, 1139 00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:05,719 Speaker 10: it's like y'all want to hang out. 1140 00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:06,920 Speaker 2: I's like no, the wife's at. 1141 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:07,560 Speaker 5: Home, like dang it. 1142 00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,640 Speaker 10: But it's cool because it's like I kind of can 1143 00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,040 Speaker 10: like see how they have dealt with life and it 1144 00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,279 Speaker 10: kind of gives me like a trail to fall and 1145 00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:17,560 Speaker 10: how to do things the right way. 1146 00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,120 Speaker 2: So it's it's cool for me. 1147 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:21,920 Speaker 10: Maybe they wish they had someone older than me so 1148 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:23,600 Speaker 10: they could look up to them, but no, they're stuck 1149 00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,680 Speaker 10: with me, so it's cool to I enjoy it a lot. 1150 00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,120 Speaker 2: I appreciate the time. I know you got to get going. 1151 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,880 Speaker 2: We got meetings. It's mandatory mini camp week. This is 1152 00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:33,799 Speaker 2: going to air in a few weeks, but I wish 1153 00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:35,560 Speaker 2: you the best of luck the rest of this week. 1154 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:40,000 Speaker 2: Go enjoy the off season, the off season for four weeks, 1155 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,520 Speaker 2: five weeks, and look forward to seeing you back here. 1156 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,760 Speaker 2: We'll see in West Virginia to start and we'll start 1157 00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,960 Speaker 2: the journey in year two. Congratulations on everything, and I 1158 00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:50,960 Speaker 2: know big things are ahead of you. We're rooting for you, 1159 00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:52,000 Speaker 2: and I appreciate the time. 1160 00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:52,160 Speaker 1: Man. 1161 00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out to Kade York. We are big fans. 1162 00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,000 Speaker 2: I think he's in for a big year. I think 1163 00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,719 Speaker 2: he's going to do quite well, and I think he's 1164 00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,719 Speaker 2: gonna be fine Browns fans. He's a really good guy 1165 00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:05,839 Speaker 2: and we're wishing him all the best of luck. Here 1166 00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,080 Speaker 2: in year number two, we'll take a quick break. When 1167 00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,600 Speaker 2: we return, you'll hear from second year running back Jerome Ford. 1168 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,880 Speaker 2: This is the best of the best podcast available on 1169 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,600 Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Bally Bet, a 1170 00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,719 Speaker 2: sports betting partner of your Cleveland Browns Coming soon to 1171 00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,320 Speaker 2: Ohio on eight to fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1172 00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,680 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bally bet Coming 1173 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,160 Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on n fifty ESPN. 1174 00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:38,560 Speaker 2: Cleveland, Welcome back into Cleveland. Browns Daily brought to you 1175 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,920 Speaker 2: by Bally bet On Jason Gibbs. This is the best 1176 00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:45,439 Speaker 2: of the best podcast available. Our CBD Best of Week 1177 00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:50,040 Speaker 2: returns tomorrow. You'll hear from Joe Thomas, Kevin Stefanski, Andrew Berry, 1178 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,120 Speaker 2: Doug Deacon just to name a few. Right now though 1179 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,640 Speaker 2: today it is the best of the best podcast available. 1180 00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,000 Speaker 2: Time to hear from second year running back and a 1181 00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:01,120 Speaker 2: guy with a lot of expectations here in twenty twenty three, 1182 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:05,080 Speaker 2: it's running back Jerome fod second year, my friend, And 1183 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,080 Speaker 2: how nice has it been to actually have an off 1184 00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:11,960 Speaker 2: season because college wise, there is no off season between 1185 00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,600 Speaker 2: college and when you get drafted, essentially, there's not really 1186 00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,160 Speaker 2: a lot of downtime. How's the off season been your 1187 00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:18,920 Speaker 2: first as an NFL veteran? 1188 00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,160 Speaker 5: Now, it's been great in my opinion. 1189 00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:23,680 Speaker 6: Like you said, you get that time off and you 1190 00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:25,280 Speaker 6: got a little bit more money to spend, so you 1191 00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:30,200 Speaker 6: go on vacation, a lot of vacation, see family, friends, 1192 00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:34,240 Speaker 6: hang out a little bit more. Not too many obligations 1193 00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,720 Speaker 6: to keep your body up. You know you're not gonna 1194 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,680 Speaker 6: let yourself fall too far, but still, you know, get 1195 00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:40,560 Speaker 6: to have a little bit of fun. 1196 00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,800 Speaker 2: I believe our strength guys probably wouldn't let you allow 1197 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,440 Speaker 2: you to get out of shape too much. The buffet 1198 00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,320 Speaker 2: tour can be too long, so but a little fun. 1199 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,600 Speaker 2: You mentioned you did a little vacationing. So far, where 1200 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:53,000 Speaker 2: have you been? 1201 00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:58,640 Speaker 6: I went to Mexico in March, Houston in January, and 1202 00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,200 Speaker 6: I've been back and forth from here to Tampa all 1203 00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:02,040 Speaker 6: off season. 1204 00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:05,560 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, and Tampa because I believe you have 1205 00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:06,200 Speaker 2: a little one. 1206 00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:06,520 Speaker 5: Yep. 1207 00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,200 Speaker 6: I'm from born and raised in Tampa, and my daughter 1208 00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:10,720 Speaker 6: lives in Tampa, so I go back to visit. 1209 00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:15,240 Speaker 2: Okay, now, she you told me she's one one going 1210 00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:16,800 Speaker 2: on like twenty one. I'm a simmer. 1211 00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, she got. She like this tall, she got, She 1212 00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,880 Speaker 6: like her bucket hat. She wears shades. She walk up 1213 00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,000 Speaker 6: to you. If her shad's falling off, she'd be like, 1214 00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,840 Speaker 6: you know, fix my shades. She point in shades, put 1215 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:30,960 Speaker 6: them on her. She walk around like she cool. 1216 00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,800 Speaker 2: Sounds like my nineteen year old I still ask she 1217 00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,360 Speaker 2: still wants me to do those things. I tell her politely, 1218 00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:41,280 Speaker 2: you're an adult, now, you deal with this. You you 1219 00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,520 Speaker 2: went to Houston. Where in Mexico did you go? Uh? 1220 00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:49,880 Speaker 6: Can coon all inclusive or all inclusive? 1221 00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:51,320 Speaker 2: The only way to travel? 1222 00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,120 Speaker 5: All inclusive? Definitely all inclusive. 1223 00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,560 Speaker 6: And we kind of just like we stayed on a 1224 00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:57,720 Speaker 6: resort for the most part a couple of times, just 1225 00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:58,520 Speaker 6: like an island that. 1226 00:58:58,480 --> 00:58:59,000 Speaker 5: We bot to. 1227 00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:03,640 Speaker 6: We took like a shady like boat across to this island. 1228 00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:04,400 Speaker 5: Islam you headirs. 1229 00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,640 Speaker 6: I think, yeah, yeah, it went over there, so it 1230 00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:07,240 Speaker 6: was pretty fun. 1231 00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,480 Speaker 2: I think, No, that's I did that. It ends up 1232 00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,680 Speaker 2: being a booze cruise. Yeah, there's a lot of multicolor 1233 00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,240 Speaker 2: drinks you should definitely avoid. Stick to the stick to 1234 00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,960 Speaker 2: the beers and you'll be fine. Otherwise you don't get 1235 00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:20,560 Speaker 2: out of bed the next day and you waste an 1236 00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:22,760 Speaker 2: entire day, not that I would know from any experience. 1237 00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,840 Speaker 2: Talking with your own forward running back here, second year, Vet. 1238 00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,040 Speaker 2: Biggest difference from year one to year two. 1239 00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,720 Speaker 6: Confidence. I feel like I'm a lot more confident in 1240 00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,520 Speaker 6: what I'm doing. I don't I'm not a share. I 1241 00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,760 Speaker 6: kind of know how to move around the facility. I 1242 00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,320 Speaker 6: know how to handle myself with meetings. It's not as 1243 00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:44,200 Speaker 6: nerve racking, Like everything isn't new. So now it's just 1244 00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,240 Speaker 6: like coming in here and you know, going to the 1245 00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:47,919 Speaker 6: right people to get the right help get the things 1246 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:48,560 Speaker 6: I need. 1247 00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,320 Speaker 2: Stump Mitchell in year two, what are his expectations and 1248 00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,240 Speaker 2: how much do they change from rookie year to now? 1249 00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:56,840 Speaker 2: Like you said, you know where you need to be 1250 00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:58,840 Speaker 2: and where you need to go, and what are his 1251 00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,280 Speaker 2: expectations here or too coach dump. 1252 01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:02,960 Speaker 6: You know, when I first got here, I think it's 1253 01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,520 Speaker 6: like a thing with the new new people and rookies. 1254 01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:08,760 Speaker 6: You know, he on you tight everything, and I think 1255 01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:10,800 Speaker 6: this year he kind of backed up off me, let me, 1256 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,000 Speaker 6: you know, do what I do, and he coached me 1257 01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:16,360 Speaker 6: up and like it's been really fun, you know, not 1258 01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,120 Speaker 6: being the guy that he get on all the time. 1259 01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:19,480 Speaker 6: Got a new guy in there. 1260 01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:23,080 Speaker 2: So you know, it's a pretty good running back room too. 1261 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,600 Speaker 2: But I mean, you definitely there's always a fight for 1262 01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:30,440 Speaker 2: the opportunities and what are the biggest things that you've 1263 01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,880 Speaker 2: worked on that you've been focused on here in the 1264 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,800 Speaker 2: off season. As we count down the days to training. 1265 01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,160 Speaker 6: Camp, pass bro knowing who the block were to go 1266 01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,560 Speaker 6: route running and like you know, like coach Stump always 1267 01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:43,880 Speaker 6: tell us, we know you can run the ball. He 1268 01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:45,600 Speaker 6: tell us, all you know, you know you can run 1269 01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:48,600 Speaker 6: the ball. Just do you know what to do, what 1270 01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:50,440 Speaker 6: to do, when to do it how I was supposed 1271 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:50,760 Speaker 6: to do it. 1272 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:55,640 Speaker 2: So as you get more and more comfortable in this offense, Uh, 1273 01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:59,240 Speaker 2: you have a quarterback now that is here for the 1274 01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,960 Speaker 2: entire season, and last year, I mean it was a challenge. 1275 01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,560 Speaker 2: Jacobe did a great job, but then you know, eleven 1276 01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:07,720 Speaker 2: games in you got to make there's a quarterback change, 1277 01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,200 Speaker 2: and that changes the philosophy on things a little bit. 1278 01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,760 Speaker 2: What's it been like to have a little more stability 1279 01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:17,040 Speaker 2: and having one guy adobts his back as well under center. 1280 01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,640 Speaker 2: What's it been like just to have Watson there the 1281 01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:20,280 Speaker 2: entire time? 1282 01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:21,200 Speaker 5: It's fun. 1283 01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:24,320 Speaker 6: Like you know, in the last few games that he 1284 01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:26,720 Speaker 6: did play, you see that he break the pocket like 1285 01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:28,640 Speaker 6: he real strong in the pocket. He almost looked like 1286 01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,120 Speaker 6: a running back breaking tackles in the pocket. But you know, 1287 01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,040 Speaker 6: just when he's scrambling making sure that we you know, 1288 01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:35,919 Speaker 6: get on the same page as him. 1289 01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:37,120 Speaker 5: His terminology. 1290 01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,320 Speaker 6: You know, like it just feel good to know that 1291 01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:41,439 Speaker 6: like throughout the season, it's going to be the same 1292 01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:43,480 Speaker 6: thing throughout. You know, we don't have to worry about 1293 01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:46,120 Speaker 6: too many changes, and we out here pretty much building 1294 01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:47,640 Speaker 6: that connection to get ready for the season. 1295 01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,800 Speaker 2: All right. Best moment from your rookie season. 1296 01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:52,840 Speaker 5: Best moment from our rookie season. 1297 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,880 Speaker 2: Tough questions, beating the Bengals, beating the Bengals, I'm in 1298 01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:58,320 Speaker 2: on that Halloween night yep. 1299 01:01:58,320 --> 01:01:59,040 Speaker 5: Beating the Bengals. 1300 01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:02,320 Speaker 2: Y The show in the stands almost as good as 1301 01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:03,560 Speaker 2: the show on the field. 1302 01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:03,960 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1303 01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:07,000 Speaker 6: My girlfriend's family is like a from Cincinnati, so they 1304 01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:10,560 Speaker 6: have big Bengals, big Bengals fans, and like we go 1305 01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:12,720 Speaker 6: at it all the time. Like they take pictures of 1306 01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,080 Speaker 6: when we lost against the Bengals in Cincinnati, they in 1307 01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:17,040 Speaker 6: the stands taking pictures of me with my head down 1308 01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,720 Speaker 6: like pain. Like I'm like, oh my goodness. Like we 1309 01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,720 Speaker 6: talk trash every day about the Bengals, Browns. 1310 01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:26,720 Speaker 2: Well, and here we go week one. I mean that's 1311 01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:28,600 Speaker 2: kind of a big deal. I mean, the schedule maker 1312 01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,440 Speaker 2: right off the get go h three or three of 1313 01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:33,880 Speaker 2: the first four against the AFC North teams like you're 1314 01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:35,600 Speaker 2: gonna know where you stand pretty early. 1315 01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:35,959 Speaker 5: Here, right. 1316 01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,160 Speaker 6: I think it's gonna be fine, a good challenge. You know, 1317 01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,320 Speaker 6: they're probably one of the best teams in our division. 1318 01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,040 Speaker 6: I think did they win the division last year? 1319 01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:42,360 Speaker 2: They did? 1320 01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:45,320 Speaker 6: Yes, and Joe Joe Burrow Jamarch. I think it's gonna 1321 01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:46,640 Speaker 6: be good, good players, good team. 1322 01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,919 Speaker 2: Yeah. Indeed, I think we're pretty good too though. So yeah, 1323 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:54,440 Speaker 2: as we take a look at things and you're moving forward, Uh, 1324 01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,680 Speaker 2: We've got a couple more weeks OTA's mandatory mini camp 1325 01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,720 Speaker 2: and then it's a it's a shorter vacation because we're 1326 01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:04,000 Speaker 2: back early. It's a little bit longer of a preseason. 1327 01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,680 Speaker 2: Shout out to Joe Thomas for continuing to overachieve and 1328 01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:08,920 Speaker 2: forcing us all to come back early. I always take 1329 01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:13,400 Speaker 2: a shot at him every week about that. What do 1330 01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:15,320 Speaker 2: you want to work out? What are your goals when 1331 01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:17,520 Speaker 2: you leave here for those six week period. I know 1332 01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:21,640 Speaker 2: it's a chance to get away and decompress and really 1333 01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:23,720 Speaker 2: relax a little bit before you get into things. But 1334 01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:25,560 Speaker 2: I know you're still working on stuff. What do you 1335 01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:26,160 Speaker 2: want to work on? 1336 01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,360 Speaker 6: I want to be like one hundred percent on everything 1337 01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:31,720 Speaker 6: that I know and solid so that when the time 1338 01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,400 Speaker 6: comes and win camp, I can play freely, run around 1339 01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,280 Speaker 6: as much as I want to without thinking too much. 1340 01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:38,520 Speaker 6: I know my job, know what I gotta do, and 1341 01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,840 Speaker 6: I can show the coaches, Deshaun, my teammates, everybody that 1342 01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,160 Speaker 6: I know what I'm doing and I can contribute to 1343 01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:45,520 Speaker 6: the team. 1344 01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:45,919 Speaker 5: Well. 1345 01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:47,919 Speaker 2: A place you contributed to the team a year ago 1346 01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:51,040 Speaker 2: was on special teams new special teams coordinator and Bubba 1347 01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,600 Speaker 2: vn Trone. What's it been like working with Bubba? And 1348 01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:56,600 Speaker 2: I know there's some new rules with the whole kick 1349 01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:59,160 Speaker 2: returns and the ball is going to be coming out 1350 01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:01,160 Speaker 2: to the twenty five yard hard line if we take 1351 01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:04,120 Speaker 2: a knee now that the owners just passed new rules 1352 01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:08,200 Speaker 2: yesterday from a special team standpoint, But what's it been 1353 01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:11,320 Speaker 2: like working with Bubba and impressions on him so far? 1354 01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:15,000 Speaker 6: It's been great. It's been fun. He came from Indiana 1355 01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:17,120 Speaker 6: and that's a dude from that. They had a return 1356 01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,640 Speaker 6: at number thirty four, Isaiah Rogers. He also from Tampa, 1357 01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,880 Speaker 6: and like you know, I kind of got went from 1358 01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:24,840 Speaker 6: him like yeah, coach, a good dude, and pretty much 1359 01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:28,240 Speaker 6: everything he told me was true. Another guy that was 1360 01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,560 Speaker 6: that was there for through. I think Mini camp last 1361 01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:32,720 Speaker 6: year he played with Cincinnati with me. He told me 1362 01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:34,080 Speaker 6: it was good and I came in got to see 1363 01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:37,160 Speaker 6: it for myself. And since they won, he'd been helpful, good, 1364 01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,840 Speaker 6: checking on me, making sure everything good, teaching me everything 1365 01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:41,200 Speaker 6: that he can in a short time. 1366 01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:41,919 Speaker 5: He done been here. 1367 01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:45,720 Speaker 2: How important is it? Maybe it's not important, but do 1368 01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:48,360 Speaker 2: you think it's important that you know he played and 1369 01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:51,960 Speaker 2: he played here at a high level on special teams. 1370 01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:53,680 Speaker 6: I think it's really he actually going there and show 1371 01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:56,440 Speaker 6: I show his film off sometimes. But I think it's 1372 01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,720 Speaker 6: really good, you know, having somebody that you can relate 1373 01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:02,320 Speaker 6: to that's done it, been through it, know what you're 1374 01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,000 Speaker 6: going through and how stressful it can be, and relating 1375 01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:05,200 Speaker 6: to you. 1376 01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:08,480 Speaker 5: I think that's pretty good. And he's still kind of young, He's. 1377 01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,840 Speaker 2: Still he can still play. I think we had him 1378 01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,160 Speaker 2: on Brown's Daily the other day and I think he 1379 01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:15,800 Speaker 2: wanted to go out and do some things after. I 1380 01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:17,600 Speaker 2: always see him working out in the gym. It's quite 1381 01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:21,120 Speaker 2: humbling from my standpoint. Yeah, I'm not Bacco over here 1382 01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:25,000 Speaker 2: behind the camera either. All Right, favorite. 1383 01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:28,120 Speaker 5: Food chicken, any kind of chicken, fried chicken, grilled chicken. 1384 01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:30,120 Speaker 2: Is there a go to place here, go to. 1385 01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:33,400 Speaker 5: Place for food in general. 1386 01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,920 Speaker 6: Whenever I'm going, when I want something fancy, I go 1387 01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:39,000 Speaker 6: to like a Marble room. But when I'm chilling, I'm 1388 01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:42,400 Speaker 6: like a Chick fil A Swinson's. I won't got Swinsons 1389 01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:46,640 Speaker 6: in Florida, but Swinson's Burger and get a Swinson's Burger 1390 01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:47,640 Speaker 6: triple cheeseburger. 1391 01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:53,320 Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, all right. Chick fil A breakfast highly underrated. 1392 01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:54,720 Speaker 5: Yeah I get that. What is the mini? 1393 01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:56,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? The sliders? 1394 01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:56,520 Speaker 5: Yep. 1395 01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:58,840 Speaker 2: All right. See we're on the same page on that. 1396 01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:01,240 Speaker 2: I love Chick fil A Breakfast. If you didn't tell 1397 01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:06,920 Speaker 2: where to go to spot here in town outside of 1398 01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:08,200 Speaker 2: Marble Room? Where else do you like. 1399 01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,320 Speaker 5: To go eating? Wise or just anything? 1400 01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:11,680 Speaker 2: Just anything? What do you like to do? 1401 01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:12,560 Speaker 5: I like to fish? 1402 01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:13,240 Speaker 2: You do? 1403 01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:17,000 Speaker 6: Joe Thomas actually hooked me up with this with a 1404 01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:20,080 Speaker 6: guy he like a pretty much like a great fisherman 1405 01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:22,920 Speaker 6: and won national titles. And we're going on Lake Area 1406 01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:26,880 Speaker 6: this Saturday and then Friday, I'm going to Jefferson, Ohio 1407 01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:29,440 Speaker 6: to go fishing. I met a dude on Twitter. I 1408 01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:31,200 Speaker 6: made a post ask him what a good fishing spots? 1409 01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:33,000 Speaker 6: I met a do it on Twitter named Darren, and 1410 01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:35,840 Speaker 6: he got this huge lake and it's like, you know, 1411 01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:37,760 Speaker 6: like you pretty much cast out. You can pretty much 1412 01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:39,960 Speaker 6: throw anything out there in the basket hit it. So 1413 01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:43,480 Speaker 6: I've pretty much been going fishing a lot lately, all right. 1414 01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:47,760 Speaker 2: Now fishing Tampa. Yes, favorite fish down there to catch. 1415 01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:54,680 Speaker 5: And eat, catch and eat. I like flounder, okay, saltwater 1416 01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:55,600 Speaker 5: fishing flounder. 1417 01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:57,400 Speaker 2: I love saltwater fish over fresh water. 1418 01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:00,680 Speaker 5: Okay. All right. 1419 01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:03,680 Speaker 2: Anything else we should know about you? Maybe, uh maybe 1420 01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:04,360 Speaker 2: a little twitch? 1421 01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,880 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I got a twitch stream. 1422 01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,200 Speaker 2: This is your chance to this is your chance to 1423 01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:10,640 Speaker 2: hype this. 1424 01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:14,760 Speaker 6: I pretty much stream any video game, scary games, fun games, Madden. 1425 01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:19,960 Speaker 6: I played myself on Madden sometimes. My twitch is Rome underscore. 1426 01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:23,200 Speaker 6: No wait, Rome eight three Rome eight one three TV. 1427 01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:26,640 Speaker 6: That is my twitch name. So yeah, I pretty much stream. 1428 01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:29,240 Speaker 6: I haven't been streaming since we've been to OTA's. 1429 01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:32,960 Speaker 2: And Focused Lock, but coach Stump Focused. 1430 01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:35,160 Speaker 6: As soon as OTAs, Oh, I'll be back streaming. I 1431 01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:36,720 Speaker 6: might even start a little bit earlier than that. 1432 01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:40,480 Speaker 2: Coming up next on the Best of the Best podcast Available, 1433 01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:43,600 Speaker 2: you'll hear from one of the Browns big free agent acquisitions, 1434 01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:47,960 Speaker 2: Obo Okoronquo. You're listening to Cleveland Brown's Daily, brought to 1435 01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,160 Speaker 2: you by bally Bet, a sports betting partner of your 1436 01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:54,600 Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns Coming soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1437 01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:02,480 Speaker 1: Cleveland brought to you by bally Bett Coming soon to 1438 01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:05,680 Speaker 1: Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1439 01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:11,280 Speaker 2: Welcome back into Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by 1440 01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:13,880 Speaker 2: bally Bett. Hope you're having a great Thursday, everybody. I'm 1441 01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:17,520 Speaker 2: Jason Gibbs, also the host of the Best podcast Available 1442 01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:20,360 Speaker 2: Today on Cleveland Browns Daily. It is the best of 1443 01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:23,920 Speaker 2: our off season podcast known as the best podcast available. 1444 01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:27,439 Speaker 2: Like and subscribe today wherever you get your podcasts. You 1445 01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:30,479 Speaker 2: can also check out all of our episodes YouTube dot 1446 01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:34,760 Speaker 2: com Slash Browns. One of the Browns big free agent 1447 01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:38,360 Speaker 2: acquisitions on defense and a guy that will have a 1448 01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:41,240 Speaker 2: lot to do with the success of this defense, especially 1449 01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:45,840 Speaker 2: at the edge rusher position, is Obo Okoronquo. Coming in 1450 01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:48,920 Speaker 2: from Houston. The young defensive end gave us a few 1451 01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:52,200 Speaker 2: minutes of his time during mini camp. Have it listen, Obo, 1452 01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:57,280 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cleveland. Weather pretty nice right now? Are you 1453 01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:59,200 Speaker 2: liking it? I'm not liking it. I'm liking it a love. 1454 01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:00,879 Speaker 2: The city is really cool, very welcoming. 1455 01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:02,960 Speaker 11: What do you like about it so far? The people 1456 01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,200 Speaker 11: are so nice here. You know, the fans are really 1457 01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:07,879 Speaker 11: into it. They really love Cleveland football. I'm excited. 1458 01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:10,800 Speaker 2: What about food wise, anything that you're into here in 1459 01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:11,559 Speaker 2: the early going? 1460 01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:14,400 Speaker 11: Food wise, I've been to Marble Room. I had a 1461 01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:15,439 Speaker 11: nice little steak there. 1462 01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:17,639 Speaker 2: A popular place here with this football team. Yea, yeah, 1463 01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:20,400 Speaker 2: that's pretty good. I'm a fan, all right? What cut? 1464 01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:22,479 Speaker 2: Is there a certain kind of steak? If you're going 1465 01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:26,439 Speaker 2: to a steakhouse? Is there a favorite kindav type? 1466 01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:29,600 Speaker 11: So I don't really eat red meat like on occasions 1467 01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:30,880 Speaker 11: I do and I'll get away, I go. 1468 01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:35,639 Speaker 2: I don't really know how to follow up with anything 1469 01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:39,000 Speaker 2: else other then that's really really good. I eat a 1470 01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:42,200 Speaker 2: lot of red meat. As you could tell. It's all right. 1471 01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:47,720 Speaker 2: Obo Oncaquo is our guest here on the best podcast available. 1472 01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:51,759 Speaker 2: So you like Cleveland not as hot maybe as Houston 1473 01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:53,720 Speaker 2: or some of the other places that you've grown up 1474 01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:54,759 Speaker 2: and been around. 1475 01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:56,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely not as hot as Houston. 1476 01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:59,640 Speaker 11: I was told it was hot and humid here and 1477 01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:01,519 Speaker 11: I got and I was like, oh it was amazing. 1478 01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:04,880 Speaker 2: I was gonna say it's not. It's not awful for 1479 01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:07,320 Speaker 2: like five months. I grew up here, so five months 1480 01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:09,519 Speaker 2: out of the year, it's a fantastic place to live. 1481 01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:12,759 Speaker 2: I'll ask you this again in December maybe and maybe 1482 01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:15,599 Speaker 2: a little bit of different answer. But I brought my coats. 1483 01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:18,120 Speaker 2: It's all good, that's fine. Yeah, hey have a coat, 1484 01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:21,800 Speaker 2: and you're done. You know, hopefully we're done in early February, 1485 01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:25,400 Speaker 2: mid February. But by that point, you know, the month 1486 01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:27,439 Speaker 2: of February is not great anyways. I don't think the 1487 01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:29,360 Speaker 2: sun comes out. So that's when you go somewhere warm 1488 01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:31,200 Speaker 2: and yeah, for sure, go hang out. All right. You 1489 01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:33,920 Speaker 2: were born in Gainesville, Florida. When'd you end up how'd 1490 01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:36,400 Speaker 2: you end up in Houston, Texas? When'd you end up? Moving? 1491 01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:40,400 Speaker 11: Early years, about three or four, my mom moved to Houston. 1492 01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:41,559 Speaker 11: She got a job in Houston. 1493 01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:45,880 Speaker 2: Okay, grew up in Houston. Played football, anything else you play? 1494 01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:49,639 Speaker 11: I just I skateboarded a little bit, really, yeah, skateboard 1495 01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:50,160 Speaker 11: all right. 1496 01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:53,680 Speaker 2: Jeff McDaniel from our content production team still does it, 1497 01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:56,920 Speaker 2: Baco does it? So? Uh do you still do it? 1498 01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:58,760 Speaker 11: I mean I'm too big now. And I don't want 1499 01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:00,800 Speaker 11: to get hurt, so it's a long fall. 1500 01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:04,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, there's a reason why I stopped snowboarding 1501 01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:07,240 Speaker 2: because it just hurt. You know, everything hurt when you 1502 01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:10,559 Speaker 2: land and you fall six feet. So yeah, all right, 1503 01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:14,040 Speaker 2: so you skateboarded. What made you decide to go to Oklahoma? 1504 01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:20,200 Speaker 11: I guess I was actually committed to Oklahoma State. I 1505 01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,080 Speaker 11: ended up taking my visit to Oklahoma, and I just 1506 01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,800 Speaker 11: felt like home, you know. After being there, I saw 1507 01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,080 Speaker 11: that it was going to just be a really good 1508 01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:31,439 Speaker 11: place to nurture my you know, my NFL hopeful dreams, 1509 01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:31,640 Speaker 11: you know. 1510 01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:34,599 Speaker 5: So I ended up choosing there, switching my commitment. 1511 01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:36,800 Speaker 2: Is there a favorite memory that you have from your 1512 01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:38,519 Speaker 2: time at Oklahoma? You were a Big twelve Player of 1513 01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:42,719 Speaker 2: the Year on the defensive side of the football, first 1514 01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:45,840 Speaker 2: team All Big Twelve. You wrecked up some pretty big 1515 01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:48,240 Speaker 2: accolades while you were at Oklahoma. Is there a memory 1516 01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:50,599 Speaker 2: that stands out, A big win, anything like that. 1517 01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:56,479 Speaker 11: I think favorite memory we beat Ohio State at Ohio State, 1518 01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:00,920 Speaker 11: I think and Baker Baker grab the flag and it 1519 01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:03,920 Speaker 11: it hit it on their logo. I think that was 1520 01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:07,280 Speaker 11: like one of the craziest, like oh you memories I 1521 01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:07,960 Speaker 11: have for sure. 1522 01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:10,280 Speaker 2: You guys had a heck of a squad. 1523 01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:11,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, we did. 1524 01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:14,879 Speaker 2: We had some good, good teams, uh in those years. 1525 01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:19,160 Speaker 2: What what prepared you in college to take that next 1526 01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:20,120 Speaker 2: step to the NFL? 1527 01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:20,599 Speaker 5: Oh? 1528 01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:23,280 Speaker 11: I think, oh you they treated like I think it's 1529 01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:27,840 Speaker 11: around like an NFL team, you know, very very business like, 1530 01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:31,280 Speaker 11: very mature. They really hold you accountable, you know. So 1531 01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:33,280 Speaker 11: that prepared me for the league. So when I got here, 1532 01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:34,639 Speaker 11: the transition wasn't so hard. 1533 01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:38,840 Speaker 2: You get to the National Football League and things start off. 1534 01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:42,439 Speaker 2: You're in Los Angeles, you're with the Rams, it ends 1535 01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:46,759 Speaker 2: up with the Super Bowl. What was your experience like there? 1536 01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:49,400 Speaker 5: Okay, so my rookie year, we went to the super 1537 01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:50,880 Speaker 5: Bowl and lost, So. 1538 01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:54,840 Speaker 2: I didn't want to dwell on. I'm like, let's go 1539 01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:55,639 Speaker 2: for the positive. 1540 01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:59,120 Speaker 11: So going back and winning one definitely felt a lot better. 1541 01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:02,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. 1542 01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:05,160 Speaker 5: It felt like a movie. When people ask me, I 1543 01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:06,080 Speaker 5: don't really know what to say. 1544 01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:10,680 Speaker 11: I just tell them it was football heaven, Like it's 1545 01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:13,479 Speaker 11: the crazy wild this most funnest things you can think 1546 01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:17,120 Speaker 11: of football related like that, that's what it is, you know, really, Yeah, 1547 01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:17,400 Speaker 11: it was. 1548 01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:17,760 Speaker 5: It was. 1549 01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:20,280 Speaker 11: It was so cool, like we felt like we were 1550 01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:22,559 Speaker 11: just like superheroes for like for like two months. 1551 01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:23,479 Speaker 5: It was it was amazing. 1552 01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:26,600 Speaker 2: All right, So you did go your rookie year and 1553 01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:31,920 Speaker 2: fell short as a team. How difficult really is it, 1554 01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:34,120 Speaker 2: not just to get back to the playoffs, but to 1555 01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:36,080 Speaker 2: even get back to the super Bowl and put yourselves 1556 01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:36,960 Speaker 2: in a position to win. 1557 01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:38,519 Speaker 5: Oh, it was super difficult. 1558 01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:40,599 Speaker 11: I believe that next year we didn't make the playoffs, 1559 01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:43,800 Speaker 11: you know, but you know, so you sort of get 1560 01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:45,640 Speaker 11: that recipe, you know, you know what it takes and 1561 01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:47,200 Speaker 11: what it looks like to get to a super Bowl, 1562 01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:51,120 Speaker 11: you know. So I'm really just glad to be able 1563 01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:52,920 Speaker 11: to have experience then and bring some of that experience 1564 01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:53,559 Speaker 11: over here. 1565 01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:58,120 Speaker 2: Talking with Obo Okaraqua, our new defensive end here on 1566 01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:01,680 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty three Cleveland Browns. Uh, you win a 1567 01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:07,160 Speaker 2: super Bowl and what was the biggest what was the 1568 01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:09,840 Speaker 2: best part of the after party? Was there? What was 1569 01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:13,559 Speaker 2: there a specific music artist or I mean we played, 1570 01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:15,240 Speaker 2: we played after we were in La. 1571 01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:18,400 Speaker 11: I think it was gonna but we were in La, 1572 01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:21,120 Speaker 11: so it was like every celebrity there, you know. But 1573 01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:24,800 Speaker 11: I think my best memory for the after party, uh 1574 01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:27,679 Speaker 11: vond he got on his he got on the ones 1575 01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:29,400 Speaker 11: and twos and he started DJing the party. 1576 01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:33,360 Speaker 2: Yeah that was cool, all right, all right, all right, 1577 01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:37,559 Speaker 2: all right, fast forward now a Cleveland Brown. You had 1578 01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:40,760 Speaker 2: some success last year in Houston, especially the second half 1579 01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:43,439 Speaker 2: of the year. You got the opportunity to play a 1580 01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:45,080 Speaker 2: little bit more and you made the most of it, 1581 01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:48,880 Speaker 2: and it really propelled you into free agency where you 1582 01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:51,439 Speaker 2: had a lot of options. What made Cleveland stand out 1583 01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:51,640 Speaker 2: to you? 1584 01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:54,200 Speaker 11: I just saw the young talent on this team, you know, 1585 01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:59,040 Speaker 11: from top to bottom, his roster stacked offensive defense. You know, 1586 01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:02,720 Speaker 11: I just saw a great opportunity, you know, also being 1587 01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:05,080 Speaker 11: able to just play with you know, one of the 1588 01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:08,000 Speaker 11: best quarterbacks in the league. You know it was It's 1589 01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:10,479 Speaker 11: just on paper, it looked amazing playing on the opposite 1590 01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:11,400 Speaker 11: side of Myles Garrett. 1591 01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:14,080 Speaker 5: You know, it just was too too good of an 1592 01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:14,719 Speaker 5: offer to pass. 1593 01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:17,880 Speaker 2: What's it been like so far with Miles. I know 1594 01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:20,479 Speaker 2: that he's been here for a little bit on and off, 1595 01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:22,160 Speaker 2: but your interactions with. 1596 01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:25,400 Speaker 11: Him, Oh, he's a super cool guy. You know, he 1597 01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:28,720 Speaker 11: he loves the game. He's probably somewhere training right now. 1598 01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:31,519 Speaker 11: You know, the guy, he's a frequent nature. You know, 1599 01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:33,000 Speaker 11: he can do a lot of stuff that I'll never 1600 01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:33,519 Speaker 11: be able to. 1601 01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:34,200 Speaker 5: Do, you know. 1602 01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:37,040 Speaker 11: You know I say that I don't know, but I mean, 1603 01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:39,599 Speaker 11: I'm just really I'm really excited to play for play 1604 01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:40,280 Speaker 11: alongside him. 1605 01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:42,439 Speaker 5: You know, he's a really cool dude. Ready to learn 1606 01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:42,960 Speaker 5: a lot from him. 1607 01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:46,120 Speaker 2: What about Jim Schwartz? What stands out so far through 1608 01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:47,160 Speaker 2: the off season program? 1609 01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:47,960 Speaker 5: His energy? 1610 01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:50,679 Speaker 11: You know, he's the same guy every day. He loves 1611 01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:53,040 Speaker 11: the game. He wants us to play with the hair 1612 01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:55,160 Speaker 11: on fire. He's gonna allow us to. He literally told 1613 01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:57,040 Speaker 11: us to take the seat bet off and go play football. 1614 01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:58,439 Speaker 11: So so that's fun. 1615 01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:01,120 Speaker 2: It is. Is your one of your goals to have 1616 01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:02,679 Speaker 2: him wear your jersey a practice? 1617 01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:03,840 Speaker 5: That's definitely one of my goals. 1618 01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:06,160 Speaker 11: I don't want him to know that yet, but but 1619 01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:08,799 Speaker 11: when I do come out and see him wearing those jerseys, 1620 01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:10,360 Speaker 11: I'm like, when it's not a fifty four. 1621 01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:12,840 Speaker 5: I do get a little upset. So I like that. 1622 01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:16,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good. It's good to have that motivation. So 1623 01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:18,920 Speaker 2: what are your goals as we get into the off 1624 01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:21,280 Speaker 2: season here? You know, I mean, you guys are around 1625 01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:24,640 Speaker 2: for another couple of weeks and then you know, you 1626 01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:27,200 Speaker 2: get a little breather before you really hit the ground 1627 01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:28,439 Speaker 2: running here with training camps. 1628 01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:30,840 Speaker 11: So I have my short term goals is just to 1629 01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:36,320 Speaker 11: just wait goals, you know, bodycom goals, and then team 1630 01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:38,960 Speaker 11: bonding goals. Just to be able to like, be able 1631 01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:41,000 Speaker 11: to hang out with the guys, you know, away from 1632 01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:43,360 Speaker 11: the facility for a couple about a couple of days. 1633 01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:46,960 Speaker 11: You know, my long term goals. I mean, we all 1634 01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:48,880 Speaker 11: play for the same reason, you know. I don't have 1635 01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:51,479 Speaker 11: to say, you know, but we're working to build something 1636 01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:52,400 Speaker 11: special in the building. 1637 01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:55,639 Speaker 2: So will you do anything fun? Any plans to get 1638 01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:58,680 Speaker 2: away from Cleveland here in the five and a half weeks. 1639 01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:00,800 Speaker 11: I might get away a little bit, but for the 1640 01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:03,679 Speaker 11: most part, I'll be with my passwords guy. Well, we'll 1641 01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:05,280 Speaker 11: have some of the D line. We'll meet up and 1642 01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:07,080 Speaker 11: do some stuff together, you know, But for the most part, 1643 01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:08,040 Speaker 11: it's it's time to go. 1644 01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:11,880 Speaker 2: I like that. Indeed, anything else that we can What 1645 01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:13,640 Speaker 2: else do you do in your spare time? What do 1646 01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:14,160 Speaker 2: you like to do? 1647 01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:15,360 Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, I'm. 1648 01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:18,400 Speaker 2: I think was it Jerome had a Twitch account? Yeah, 1649 01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:20,320 Speaker 2: he was big. He was promoting that pretty hard. 1650 01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:23,200 Speaker 5: I mean, I do photography as well. I do. 1651 01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:25,320 Speaker 11: I do a lot of photography. I actually like get 1652 01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:27,479 Speaker 11: booked and shoot for people sometimes. 1653 01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:29,720 Speaker 2: You know, I hear a rumor that you might be 1654 01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:33,960 Speaker 2: doing some head shots at media availability for mandatory mini camp. 1655 01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:35,320 Speaker 5: Hey, man, don't listen to every room. 1656 01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:38,880 Speaker 2: I like starting room, so I got that. 1657 01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:41,960 Speaker 11: I guess we'll see you know. But yeah, I enjoy 1658 01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:43,000 Speaker 11: photography as well. 1659 01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:44,960 Speaker 5: It's right now. 1660 01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:47,320 Speaker 11: The reason why I'm like so like coy about it 1661 01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:49,400 Speaker 11: is because you know, as as football rolls around, I 1662 01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:51,439 Speaker 11: try to put everything up and just you know, have 1663 01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:54,000 Speaker 11: like laser focused on on just football because you know, 1664 01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:55,599 Speaker 11: it's an opportunity right now. 1665 01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:59,160 Speaker 5: It's a it's a big opportunity to play with this roster, 1666 01:17:59,240 --> 01:17:59,400 Speaker 5: you know. 1667 01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:02,120 Speaker 11: I feel like right now like we have a great 1668 01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:04,000 Speaker 11: window for success, you know, so we just want to 1669 01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:04,600 Speaker 11: maximize it. 1670 01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:07,200 Speaker 2: Obo Okoronko, I appreciate the time. Wish you all the 1671 01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:10,000 Speaker 2: best here. Enjoy the off season, get some downtime, enjoy 1672 01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:12,599 Speaker 2: a little marble room, maybe a little wagoo hey if 1673 01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:15,800 Speaker 2: you want to. But enjoy everything and we look forward 1674 01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:16,800 Speaker 2: to seeing you hear this fall. 1675 01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:17,400 Speaker 5: Thank you man. 1676 01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:20,800 Speaker 2: Thanks to obo Okoronquo for his time. So much more 1677 01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:23,479 Speaker 2: to come your way. When the Best of the Best 1678 01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:27,200 Speaker 2: Podcast available continues on Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you 1679 01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:29,639 Speaker 2: by bally Bet, a sports betting partner of your Cleveland 1680 01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:33,360 Speaker 2: Browns Coming soon to Ohio on eight to fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1681 01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:40,280 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by bally Bet, Coming 1682 01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:43,920 Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1683 01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,760 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by 1684 01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:50,799 Speaker 2: bally Bet. This is the best of the best podcast available. 1685 01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:54,439 Speaker 2: I'm Jason Gibbs. Final segment on this Thursday, and we 1686 01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:57,599 Speaker 2: hear from Brown's rookie center and former Buckeye standout Luke 1687 01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:00,280 Speaker 2: Wippler Day one in the books from Rookie Minnie Camp 1688 01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:03,240 Speaker 2: getting ready for day two. Coach said that they were 1689 01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:06,000 Speaker 2: gonna throw a bunch of stuff at you and get 1690 01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:09,160 Speaker 2: ready for today. And how's the experience been since landing 1691 01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:11,479 Speaker 2: here on Thursday and getting down to business. 1692 01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:12,479 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's been awesome. 1693 01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:14,600 Speaker 7: I think, like you said, coach is gonna throw a 1694 01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:16,479 Speaker 7: lot of stuff at us, and they have early on. 1695 01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:19,720 Speaker 7: So it's been quite the adjustment coming in and just 1696 01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:21,840 Speaker 7: learning the whole new playbook, a whole new way to 1697 01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:25,799 Speaker 7: play offs line that Coach Callahan has and it's excellent. 1698 01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:27,519 Speaker 7: I think some of the stuff he does is brilliant, 1699 01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:29,960 Speaker 7: and it's been really fun to kind of learn it all. 1700 01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:34,960 Speaker 2: Was there a was there a moment when you walked 1701 01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:38,360 Speaker 2: into the facility. There is that that first NFL moment 1702 01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:41,559 Speaker 2: that you're just kind of taking it back by that's 1703 01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:42,599 Speaker 2: happened here this week. 1704 01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:45,800 Speaker 7: I mean, honestly, it sounds a little goofy, but my 1705 01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:47,840 Speaker 7: first NFL moment was when they had like the face 1706 01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:50,040 Speaker 7: detector to get into the facility. I was like, this 1707 01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:52,800 Speaker 7: is very James bond Esk. This is pretty cool. I'm 1708 01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:55,120 Speaker 7: really at the next level now. So that was kind 1709 01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:57,120 Speaker 7: of my first moment. And then obviously just walking into 1710 01:19:57,120 --> 01:20:00,240 Speaker 7: the endoor facility and seeing all the player that have 1711 01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:01,960 Speaker 7: come through here in the past. I mean, guy I 1712 01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:04,439 Speaker 7: looked up to growing up, Joe Thomas and his poster 1713 01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:06,639 Speaker 7: up there. It was like, wow, like, I'm really here 1714 01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:08,680 Speaker 7: and it's really exciting. I'm really thrilled to be a 1715 01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:09,120 Speaker 7: part of it. 1716 01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:09,280 Speaker 5: All. 1717 01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:11,479 Speaker 2: Right, has Joe reached out to you yet? 1718 01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:12,400 Speaker 8: I know he is not. 1719 01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:14,160 Speaker 2: Don't worry, Yeah he will. 1720 01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:15,080 Speaker 5: He is. 1721 01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:19,280 Speaker 2: His love for offensive linemen and wanting young offensive linemen 1722 01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:20,680 Speaker 2: to get better. He does a lot of stuff with 1723 01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:22,640 Speaker 2: us still on the radio side and on the on 1724 01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:25,320 Speaker 2: the TV side, And I'm telling you he will reach 1725 01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:28,240 Speaker 2: out and use him as a resource, because I definitely will. 1726 01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:31,800 Speaker 2: He is He's a great human in addition to being 1727 01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:35,120 Speaker 2: a great teacher, so it matters. Speaking of great teachers, 1728 01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:39,080 Speaker 2: you've got two in the building and Coach Callahan and 1729 01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:41,720 Speaker 2: a guy that I don't think it's enough credit for 1730 01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:44,840 Speaker 2: the job he does, Coach Peters, who's probably one of 1731 01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:48,240 Speaker 2: the most intense people I think we've ever met and 1732 01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:52,639 Speaker 2: not intimidated by many people. But no Coach Peters can 1733 01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:54,760 Speaker 2: bring that. But what have they been like to work with? 1734 01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:57,439 Speaker 7: And they've been awesome I think the last I guess 1735 01:20:57,680 --> 01:20:59,479 Speaker 7: forty eight hours i've been able to start working with 1736 01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:02,720 Speaker 7: them now, it's been nothing but excitement on my end. 1737 01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:05,800 Speaker 7: I think there are really two, like you said, two 1738 01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:08,040 Speaker 7: of the brightest, awful to line minds in football. And 1739 01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:10,599 Speaker 7: for me, someone that really just likes to dive into 1740 01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:12,880 Speaker 7: x's and o's and technique part of the game. I 1741 01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:15,759 Speaker 7: could be around to better people this early in my career, 1742 01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:17,400 Speaker 7: so I'm just trying to pick their brains and learn 1743 01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:19,720 Speaker 7: as much as I can from them. Over these last 1744 01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:22,120 Speaker 7: couple of days, and for me, that's the only thing 1745 01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:23,840 Speaker 7: is just trying to one percent better every day, trying 1746 01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:25,280 Speaker 7: to pick one thing and try to work on it 1747 01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:26,639 Speaker 7: that day and get better at it. 1748 01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:30,479 Speaker 2: I noticed yesterday he was Coach Callahan was bringing you 1749 01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:35,479 Speaker 2: around and having you demonstrate certain things. And that's the 1750 01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:37,920 Speaker 2: one thing that people at Ohio State have told us 1751 01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:42,280 Speaker 2: as well. We've had your coaches on our Browns radio 1752 01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:45,200 Speaker 2: show and they said, you're a tactician. You are a 1753 01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:48,040 Speaker 2: student of the game in every way, shape and form. 1754 01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:51,160 Speaker 2: And is that something that you learned in high school 1755 01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:52,680 Speaker 2: and college or where did you learn that? 1756 01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:56,080 Speaker 8: I think just growing up my whole life. 1757 01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:58,160 Speaker 7: To give my high school coaches, Coach Off and the 1758 01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:01,120 Speaker 7: coach of Carlot credit, they kind of really built that 1759 01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:03,400 Speaker 7: into me and really made sure. As obviously everyone's been 1760 01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:05,120 Speaker 7: telling me last couple of days, I'm undersized, so I 1761 01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:06,360 Speaker 7: have to be a really good technician. 1762 01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:09,840 Speaker 8: But for me, I use that just because I have 1763 01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:11,120 Speaker 8: to be. It's what I love to do. 1764 01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:13,920 Speaker 7: And for me, I think anything you do in any 1765 01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:14,479 Speaker 7: kind of sports. 1766 01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:17,280 Speaker 8: I grew up playing a bunch of sports and it was. 1767 01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:20,439 Speaker 7: Always about learning the why and learning how to do 1768 01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:22,640 Speaker 7: it properly, which makes you a great player. So I 1769 01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:25,000 Speaker 7: think for me, coming here and just being around two 1770 01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:27,439 Speaker 7: coaches I preach and love the technique of it has 1771 01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:28,200 Speaker 7: been awesome for me. 1772 01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:31,120 Speaker 2: They had no question about it. They take their time 1773 01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:34,439 Speaker 2: and yeah, every offensive limich that comes through the doors 1774 01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:38,000 Speaker 2: is is better for it dealing with both of those guys. 1775 01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:42,320 Speaker 2: What was your top thirty visit? Like you were you 1776 01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:44,800 Speaker 2: had a visit here before the draft, so you had 1777 01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:46,439 Speaker 2: a little bit of an idea that the Browns had 1778 01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:48,840 Speaker 2: an interest. Yes, what was that? Like, can you tell 1779 01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:49,439 Speaker 2: me about that? 1780 01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:50,599 Speaker 8: Yeah? That was awesome. 1781 01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:52,680 Speaker 7: I think coming up here is a quick drive from 1782 01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:55,240 Speaker 7: Columbus where I was training after the combine, and I'm 1783 01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:57,040 Speaker 7: just getting up here and getting to the facility again 1784 01:22:57,160 --> 01:22:59,960 Speaker 7: to meet coach Defanski, Coach Callahan, coach Peters. I mean, 1785 01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:02,960 Speaker 7: I remember I called like my agent on the way 1786 01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:05,320 Speaker 7: home and I said, like, man, like that was just 1787 01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:06,960 Speaker 7: worth the drive just to be able to sit down 1788 01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:09,080 Speaker 7: with coach Callen and coach Peters for the hour and 1789 01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:11,720 Speaker 7: a half. We did a quick little install period and 1790 01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:13,920 Speaker 7: I was like, that was amazing. I was writing my 1791 01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:16,519 Speaker 7: own notes of things they were teaching me. And just 1792 01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:19,200 Speaker 7: they have such a great intellectual view of the game 1793 01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:22,599 Speaker 7: that very few have. So yeah, it was an awesome 1794 01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:24,800 Speaker 7: experience and I was so happy they were able to 1795 01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:25,200 Speaker 7: draft me. 1796 01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:28,800 Speaker 2: Talk to me about those Ohio State players, your teammates. 1797 01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:31,160 Speaker 2: I mean, there's four of you that are coming in, 1798 01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:34,000 Speaker 2: so you do have some familiar faces. And one of 1799 01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:35,880 Speaker 2: them is a guy that has been in your room 1800 01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:37,880 Speaker 2: for a long time and was there your first day 1801 01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:39,720 Speaker 2: on campus at Ohio State when you were the new 1802 01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:43,400 Speaker 2: kid at school. So in Dewan Jones. Talk to me 1803 01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:45,759 Speaker 2: a little bit about those guys. What can we expect from. 1804 01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:48,439 Speaker 7: Those Yeah, I think so off with Dewan just because 1805 01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:51,200 Speaker 7: I'm so familiar with him. I mean, he's just a 1806 01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:55,479 Speaker 7: monster on the field, figuratively and literally a monster on 1807 01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:56,920 Speaker 7: the field. Then I think you see that in his 1808 01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,519 Speaker 7: game film and when you see him standing next to 1809 01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:02,840 Speaker 7: the normal people, he's a monster. And I think for 1810 01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:05,680 Speaker 7: him coming in here, being around coach Callahan and Coach 1811 01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:07,400 Speaker 7: Peters is only going to make him a better player. 1812 01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:09,519 Speaker 7: And I'm really excited what he's gonna look like in 1813 01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:11,280 Speaker 7: a month from now when we get when we break 1814 01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:13,960 Speaker 7: after the mini camp in June. So for me, that's 1815 01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:15,640 Speaker 7: what you can expect him to be a monster. And 1816 01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:19,439 Speaker 7: then Ronnie. I've played against Ronnie since freshman or high school, 1817 01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:22,160 Speaker 7: played across against each other, but football against each other, 1818 01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:24,880 Speaker 7: so it me and him go way back, and I'm 1819 01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:26,599 Speaker 7: just really excited for him to be here. He's a 1820 01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:29,760 Speaker 7: tremendous athlete. So I mean, I see what he was 1821 01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:31,479 Speaker 7: able to do Ohio State the two years that he 1822 01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:35,040 Speaker 7: played there, he was all around one of the better safeties. 1823 01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:37,000 Speaker 7: I think everyone on the defense always raved on that 1824 01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:38,719 Speaker 7: side of the ball about how great of a teammate 1825 01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:41,000 Speaker 7: he was. They love playing on the field with him. 1826 01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:44,760 Speaker 7: He was so motivational and so upbeat and happy all time. 1827 01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:47,360 Speaker 7: He was like your prototypical leader on that defense side 1828 01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:49,320 Speaker 7: of the ball. So that was the one guy that 1829 01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:51,439 Speaker 7: you can always count on. I heard on defense they 1830 01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:53,840 Speaker 7: always bring that spirit up a little bit. And then 1831 01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:57,320 Speaker 7: t Mac is just I mean your generic cover corner 1832 01:24:57,360 --> 01:25:00,320 Speaker 7: and nickel slot guy, and that was a huge addition 1833 01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:02,840 Speaker 7: we got him, and I'm really excited what he's able 1834 01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:03,439 Speaker 7: to do here too. 1835 01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:06,960 Speaker 2: All right at Ohio State, best moment you ever had 1836 01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:08,040 Speaker 2: at Ohio State. 1837 01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:11,599 Speaker 8: Probably win the Rose Bowl in twenty twenty one. 1838 01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:13,400 Speaker 7: I think that was a really cool game of cool 1839 01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:16,320 Speaker 7: environment to play in, and it was like one of 1840 01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:18,679 Speaker 7: the coolest sporting events I've ever been a part of, 1841 01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:21,160 Speaker 7: just to come back and everything it was. It was 1842 01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:23,640 Speaker 7: really dramatic and it was it was a lot of fun. 1843 01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:28,280 Speaker 2: In high school, you wrestled, yep, you played lacrosse, yep. 1844 01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:31,080 Speaker 2: You gave Rugby a chance. I played rugby my whole 1845 01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:33,719 Speaker 2: life growing up. Okay, rugby, Rugby was the all time. 1846 01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:35,360 Speaker 2: Wrestling was the one I think you took up. 1847 01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:37,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, wrestling, I started, yep, and I started. I do 1848 01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:39,760 Speaker 7: that growing up too. But I started wrestling high school 1849 01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:42,080 Speaker 7: as well. Okay, yeah, or I was wrestling high school. 1850 01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:45,240 Speaker 7: If you couldn't play football, Like, what would you have 1851 01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:49,680 Speaker 7: gone with? I probably snowboard too, Yeah, snowboard, Yeah, I 1852 01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:51,840 Speaker 7: do it. Yeah, I tried to do it all. Stay 1853 01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:55,240 Speaker 7: busy is what I like to say. Probably Rugby, honestly, 1854 01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:57,280 Speaker 7: I think that at least there I get to carry 1855 01:25:57,320 --> 01:25:59,680 Speaker 7: the ball a little bit so and you still at 1856 01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:01,799 Speaker 7: the hit people and it's fun. It's a lot of running. 1857 01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:04,400 Speaker 7: So but yeah, no, I think probably Rugby was the one. 1858 01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:08,160 Speaker 7: I probably would have went with. Favorite food chicken parmesan. 1859 01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:12,280 Speaker 2: Chicken parmesan. You go angel hair with it on the side, yes, okay, 1860 01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:14,320 Speaker 2: salad or no salad? 1861 01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:14,760 Speaker 5: Uh? 1862 01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:19,559 Speaker 7: I like a meatball instead of salad. Yeah, all right, 1863 01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:23,960 Speaker 7: that's some meatball. So yeah, okay, I'm trying to think 1864 01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:26,840 Speaker 7: what else is there? Is there a fast food place 1865 01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:29,960 Speaker 7: that you're a big fan of? Well, this is actually funny. 1866 01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:32,280 Speaker 7: Was meaning from the Northeast. There was no such thing 1867 01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:34,880 Speaker 7: as canes where I'm from. And I remember my first 1868 01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:36,479 Speaker 7: time coming out to Clumb with someone of my visits 1869 01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:37,719 Speaker 7: to a house stay when I was in high school. 1870 01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:39,120 Speaker 7: I had canes for the first time and I was like, 1871 01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:41,880 Speaker 7: this is uh, this is crack, this is amazing. So 1872 01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:44,920 Speaker 7: uh yeah, that's probably like right now, like my I 1873 01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:45,880 Speaker 7: can't eat it all the time. 1874 01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:46,600 Speaker 8: I try to save it. 1875 01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:49,240 Speaker 2: Correct. I was gonna say that the team frown. 1876 01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:51,639 Speaker 7: No, yeah, I'm for sure they're wincing if they're watching 1877 01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:54,240 Speaker 7: this right now. So yeah, I try to say that. 1878 01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:56,599 Speaker 7: It's like once a month if I do something good, 1879 01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:58,679 Speaker 7: I treat myself, I'll go get it for lunch or something. 1880 01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:00,840 Speaker 8: Uh, just kind of spice it up a little bit. 1881 01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:01,240 Speaker 5: All right. 1882 01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:03,559 Speaker 2: Anything else that we should know about you? The Browns 1883 01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:06,120 Speaker 2: fans should know about you get ready to embark on 1884 01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:06,559 Speaker 2: your career. 1885 01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:07,439 Speaker 8: Yeah, there isn't much. 1886 01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:11,559 Speaker 2: I'm a person, so yeah, other than your juggling ability. Yeah, 1887 01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:14,519 Speaker 2: I also heard that there's a there's a comedic side 1888 01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:14,800 Speaker 2: as well. 1889 01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:17,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so a little bit. 1890 01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:19,839 Speaker 2: In the talent show. Would you go juggling or comedy? 1891 01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:23,160 Speaker 8: I think juggling. I think juggling is just a lot 1892 01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:24,760 Speaker 8: for me easier. 1893 01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:28,040 Speaker 2: And it's a pretty intense deal because everybody's yelling it. Yeah, 1894 01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:29,879 Speaker 2: I'm sure people are trying to get you to message. 1895 01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:32,320 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, yeah, I definitely go juggling. It's just a 1896 01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:33,160 Speaker 8: lot more natural. 1897 01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:36,439 Speaker 2: And you're also a chess player looking for Amari Cooper 1898 01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:37,400 Speaker 2: to beat him in Yeah. 1899 01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:37,679 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1900 01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:40,000 Speaker 7: Now I saw chessboard someone in the facility and someone 1901 01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:42,000 Speaker 7: was I think it was like maybe our assistant GMS. 1902 01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:44,280 Speaker 7: And then someone else said like, oh yeah, Mario always 1903 01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:45,840 Speaker 7: has a chess set too, So I was like, all. 1904 01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:47,080 Speaker 2: Right, you're a renaissance. 1905 01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:49,800 Speaker 8: Yeah. Listen. Like I said, I like to stay busy. 1906 01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:54,120 Speaker 2: Shout out to Luke appreciate his time. 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