1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha. I'm welcome to Stephan 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: I Never told you production of iHeart Radio and for 3 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 1: today's Monday Minnie, we are back with another listener mail. 4 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: Thanks as always for taking the time to write to us. 5 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: There's a bit of a backlog right now, I will admit, 6 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: but we are working through these messages so never fear, 7 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: we do get them, and so many of them are 8 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 1: so good, so really thank you. But I wanted to 9 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: start with one. We read a part of this one 10 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: in your two part first, the first part of your 11 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: two parter you did on Regina from Once upon a Time. Yeah, yes, 12 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: but I wanted to read the whole thing. Eldie wrote, 13 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:57,639 Speaker 1: I have been a listener of Sminty for years now 14 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: and it's always a pleasure for me when you cover 15 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: pop culture topics I know a little about and also 16 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: love the episodes I know nothing about, so I feel 17 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: I can share your enthusiasm on your favorite topics. Is 18 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: really neat to listen to. I love every discussion on 19 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: fan fiction, slash fandom, star Wars and company. As a 20 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: former huge Potterhead and former member of Lots of Toxic fandoms, 21 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: I survived the super wholock area. Lol. Those are topics 22 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: I really enjoy thinking about. This was a huge part 23 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: of my early twenties. I'm thirty four now and talking 24 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: about the not so fun stuff surrounding these topics is 25 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: also really important and I appreciate it anyway. All that 26 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: to say, I really appreciate all the work you do 27 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: and when to dig up a meta analysis I posted 28 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: many many years ago on my tumplar account about Disney Princesses. 29 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: It's by no means exhaustive nor researched. It was just 30 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: my personal feeling at the time in response to all 31 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: the people bashing Disney Princesses because it's old, does not 32 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 1: include Moana, a personal favorite of mine, North Frozen, But 33 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: I think it does shine a light on what you 34 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: said in the later part of episode two. Not everyone's 35 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 1: focus is on romance, even in older, more traditional Disney 36 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: princess movies. I'd even argue that the movies themselves do not, 37 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: as the Prince often arrives like in the third act 38 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: of the movies, or have little impact on the movie 39 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: as a whole except for the ending, and we all 40 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: know the journey matters as much, if not more than 41 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: the destination, and when the princes are present, it serves 42 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: as showing off the development of a burgeoning relationship, and 43 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: the princess often has another primary goal apart from romance. Yes, 44 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: and Led sent us the link. I love this. This 45 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: is something I absolutely would do. So I feel like 46 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: we're yes, yes that I just write that. No one 47 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: reads I never post anywhere, so kudos to you. I 48 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: love it, but it is true. Okay, First, I love 49 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: how many people wrote in about Frozen. I was kind 50 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: of a but I'm very happy about it. It's really 51 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: funny to me. One of the things about our jobs 52 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: is after you research something, you get a lot of 53 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: updates about it, and it's really hard to tell if 54 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: it's because you researched it or if there are a 55 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: lot of updates that are happening arts both. But I'm 56 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: getting a lot of updates about Frozen. I love that. 57 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: I love it too. I'm like, oh, okay, I. 58 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 2: Think I sent you a TikTok about cicadas, so you did. 59 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: How they are coming? Everybody prepare tennessee. I do think 60 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: this is a really good point, and we did talk 61 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: about it in our Frozen episode that a lot of 62 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: the story. You know, I think the issue is a 63 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: lot of it is, you know, at the end, you 64 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: get married, you have your happy ending, but so much 65 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: of the stories like before that, and so maybe a 66 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: part of the conversation we're not really having the nuance 67 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: when we're discussing, is maybe you do want that thing, 68 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: but it shouldn't be the thing. Yeah, that defines you, 69 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: like because they yeah, they do spend most of the 70 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: movie doing something else that comes in at the end. 71 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 2: You know, we never talked about a majority of those movies. 72 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: There's always like the sin of the parents that always 73 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: is the cause typically, Yeah, or at least a big misunderstanding, 74 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 2: because Frozen has that too. 75 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, just that's true. That is true anyway. 76 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 2: Okay, So moving on, Sarah wrote, I am writing in 77 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 2: response to your recent episode entitled Tech Things to Leave 78 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 2: Behind in twenty twenty three. I certainly learned a lot 79 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 2: during that episode, so I wanted to chair with y'all 80 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: a powerful AI tool that has answered a question that 81 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,119 Speaker 2: I've been wondering about for at least ten years. To begin, 82 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 2: I am legally blind. I do have some vision, but 83 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 2: I cannot see you well enough to read print or 84 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 2: find details my entire life, I had problems of finding 85 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 2: solutions to get around my ability to read print, such 86 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 2: as learning braill and listening for the sounds of my 87 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 2: water boiling when I'm making tea. Ever since my high 88 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 2: school years, I wondered how I would do an at 89 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 2: home pregnancy test if the situation ever came up. I 90 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 2: do not think I would want to involve one of 91 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 2: my family members who can see to avoid judgment for 92 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 2: being in that situation. There are apps that can connect 93 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 2: blind users to volunteers who can see, and their job 94 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 2: is to describe what is visible through the blind person's 95 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 2: a smartphone camera. While I could use one of those 96 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 2: apps to do it to do an at home pregnancy test, 97 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 2: I would not feel comfortable doing that for privacy's sake. 98 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 2: While I might be able to find a person in 99 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: my life who can see that I trust well enough 100 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 2: to help me with this situation, other blind women might not, 101 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 2: particularly if, like me, their partners are also blind. All 102 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: of this to say that this year, a revolutionary tool 103 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 2: called be my AI was released and has finally answered 104 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 2: my question. It is an extension of an app called 105 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: be my Eyes. This is one of the apps that 106 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 2: could blind users to volunteers who can see to describe 107 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 2: things for them. The b my AI describes pictures with 108 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 2: immense accuracy. It's useful for things like getting expiration dates 109 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 2: from grocery items to online shopping, and describing family photos. 110 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 2: A user can also chat with the AI tools to 111 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 2: get more specific details that they are looking for in 112 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: the image and provide additional images to get a satisfying answer. 113 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 2: As this tool was just released to the public in 114 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 2: the fall of twenty twenty three, the developers are still 115 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 2: working out some books with how it describes images. With 116 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 2: that said, it is still an immensely powerful tool for 117 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 2: myself and the millions of people around the world who 118 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 2: have limitations with their vision. Now I know that if 119 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 2: I was ever in a situation where I needed to 120 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 2: do an at home pregnancy test, I would be able 121 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 2: to do it independently and discreetly without involving an individual 122 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 2: who can see. That is immensely powerful for myself and 123 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 2: I'm sure for thousands of other blind women. Wow, that's incredible. 124 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 2: I didn't know that existed. That's amazing. 125 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: I didn't know that either, And I responded and said, 126 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: you know, to my shame, I have never ever thought 127 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: me though about the pregnancy test, right at home pregnancy test, 128 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: So that is yeah, I mean that's an example of 129 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: technology filling a need. I love that. 130 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 2: Thank you for letting us know because that's such an 131 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 2: amazing discovery for a lot of people that like I 132 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 2: wouldn't have even thought to look for so suggesting this. 133 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: So thank you so much, Sarah. 134 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: Yes, thank you. Friend of the show, Amanda, who has 135 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: written in before and is the person who suggested that 136 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: we play way Haven, Yes, wrote in, I hope even 137 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: Samantha are doing well and both had a wonderful life day. 138 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: Our Christmas are whatever else you feel like celebrating. I 139 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: want to thank you both for your episodes. They have 140 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: kept me sane as I was moving to my new 141 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: home in coming Georgia. It's been funny because every episode 142 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: seemed to be like a mirror of what I was 143 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: going through, and it was so comforting to know I 144 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: wasn't the only one going through rough times. First Halloween 145 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: Horror Nights, I loved your episodes on them, especially since 146 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: it was my first time back at Halloween Horror Nights 147 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: Orlando in about fifteen years. I absolutely went for the 148 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: last of us and stayed for the Dueling Dragons and 149 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: Yettie Houses. But seriously, I really hope you all get 150 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: to go again next year and make reports on them 151 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: a more frequent outing Samantha, I will volunteer as tribute 152 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: if Samantha is too scared to go loll thank you. 153 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: I also highly recommend if you get a chance next time, 154 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: to do the Horror Unmask, which lets you walk through 155 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: the houses with the lights on. You also get about 156 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: thirty to forty five minutes in six random houses to 157 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: take pictures, ask questions of the guide, and learn about 158 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: how each house was designed, and really get to appreciate 159 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: all the artistry. This may have been where my love 160 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 1: for the Yetti House came in. Here's some of the 161 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: pictures I was able to take next. I was super 162 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 1: excited to hear about your interest in board games. I've 163 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: been rekindling my love for them recently, and there's so 164 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: many more to choose from. Though it absolutely made me 165 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: realize the disparity between how many are women made versus not. 166 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:26,719 Speaker 1: Here are a few fun games with solo modes that 167 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: I recommend, though I can't promise they're all made by women. 168 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: Final Girl only a Solo mode has multiple versions based 169 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: around popular horror tropes and all female protagonists. It's a 170 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: solitairel like game where you are trying to save victims, 171 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: to get power ups, get rid of the killer, or 172 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 1: escape with an item. Bark Avenue a dog walking game 173 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: that recently came out. It's all about trying to walk 174 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: as many dogs as you can in a single day. 175 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: Apparently all the dogs are based on real pups, and 176 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: the art warms my heart every time I open. It 177 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 1: also has two player and multiple the initiative this is 178 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: all about being thrown into a comic book where you 179 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: have to break codes to uncover the mystery of the 180 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 1: neighbor down the street. Scooby Gang meets Spy Kids can 181 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: also be played with multiple people. Okay, and now to 182 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: the topic that brought me to message you both in 183 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: the first place. Way Havevid. I was so happy to 184 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: hear your second episode on it, covering books two and 185 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: three and no Worries to Samantha, I completely understand. We 186 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: have to criticize the things that we love. Aha. To 187 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: answer a question, you both pose the differences and the 188 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: character's genders are determined by your sexuality preference. In the 189 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,599 Speaker 1: first book, so heterosexual will get you all of the 190 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: opposite gender, while bisexual, asexual or pan sexual will get 191 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: you a mix of inverse with the Nate slash Natalie 192 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: and Adam slash Ava always being the same for that 193 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: wonderful love triangle mess. I'm glad you both are enjoying it, 194 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: and encourage you to do several playthroughs, especially with the 195 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: different characters, to learn more about them and test the 196 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: limit of the sometimes annoying choice of game systems. Anyway, 197 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 1: this has been super long already, but thank you both 198 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: again so much. I hope you get some well deserved 199 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: time off leading into the new year. I'm also planning 200 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: on going to DragonCon this year, fingers crossed I'll get 201 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 1: a chance to say thank you in person. We need 202 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: to do yes, oh yes, I love this. 203 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 2: Definitely, Oh way, heaven. I've already forgotten to go through 204 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 2: all of them a bank at one sitting. 205 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: I started the first one again, and it's just really 206 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: hard for me to like make different choices of looking 207 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: all that one. 208 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 2: That's that's it, Instinctually, I think I know for that 209 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 2: same choice, I'm like, wait, I need to do something different, 210 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 2: But which one? 211 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: Which one? Yeah, but I did start it again. I 212 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: think it will still be similar, but it'll be different. Yeah, 213 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: but I think like I'm not going to go like 214 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: way far off, but it will be a different outcome. 215 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: So many times when we send these to Christine and 216 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: I listened to them again, because we do it for 217 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: quality QA as we call it, I'll listen to it 218 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: and be like, why didn't I talk about that. I 219 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: do have a I have a theory about what's gonna happen, 220 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: and that's all I'll say. But there's something suspicious that 221 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: happened in mind that when you were talking about what 222 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: happened in yours, I was like, oh, I might have 223 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: stumbled on something. Then Okay, well. 224 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 2: Because like, yeah, I really do need to go try 225 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 2: it again, because I was so like, you can do that. 226 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: That lets you WHOA, Yeah, I was very confused. I 227 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: stumbled on something. Okay, I'm gonna have to go back 228 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: and look at it. That could be Dillar, right, but 229 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: it's just it's fun. It is funny. I love that 230 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: you brought this to his Amanda. We have joy out 231 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: of it. Yes, I will admit I bought I already 232 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: bought some of the Final Girl games, and I bought 233 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 1: the comic book based one to buy the Puppy Dog one. 234 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: I knew you would get that. To do that, I 235 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: need to see dogs. It's it's great. All game recommendations 236 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: appreciated clearly. We actually do take them into a convey excited. Yes. Also, yes, 237 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: the pictures of Halloween Horror Nights were great. I did 238 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: want to do that. We would see that group doing 239 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 1: it and I'd be like, Oh, I'm jealous of you 240 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: going into the behind the scenes and stuff. That was 241 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: really cool. I heard so Universal is like completely changing 242 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: their theme park next year, like they're doing it now. 243 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: But anyway, I heard five nights that Freddy's will be 244 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: there next year. Yeah, oh that's the hell. That would 245 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: be a good way. I know that Hell would be good. 246 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 1: Come hang with us. Yeah, I might have to take 247 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: Amanda up on this. I hope that your move to 248 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: Coming Georgia went well. I spent a lot of time 249 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: there as a child, because that was the quote, big 250 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: city near me close. 251 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 2: My niece works over there, so hi, neighbor, Yeah yeah, hello. So. 252 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 2: And then we have Debbie who wrote I'm fifty. I 253 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 2: was never on the pill until forty. Mom had breast 254 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 2: cancer in the early nineties, and it was assumed back 255 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: then the pill could raise my risk. When I started 256 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 2: the four periods a year pill, heaven, My period sucked. 257 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 2: Even for a year sucked. I never wanted kids, and 258 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 2: I got it every three weeks when not around women 259 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 2: on the pill to sink me up the seasonique three 260 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 2: periods a year pill is amazing. I don't know why 261 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 2: every woman who can take the pill isn't on it. 262 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 2: I was changing to another pill to help keep my 263 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 2: hormones from being nutty, was going to stop for a 264 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 2: while and see what happens naturally. And haven't had my 265 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 2: period since the last one from the pill in August. Yay, 266 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 2: I was finally getting the perimenopause. And then I got 267 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 2: breast cancer. Oh I'm fine. It was found in August 268 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 2: at Memmo, had a lumpectomy and just finished radiation treatment 269 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 2: last week. Now just starting to maxifen the estrogen blocker 270 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 2: as a preventative measure and have to take it for 271 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 2: five years. 272 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: So unfair. 273 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 2: After being scared of it by the goofy women who 274 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 2: talked about it dramatically had very mild hot flashes. I 275 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 2: didn't even realize I was having them for a few months. 276 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 2: Now after a few days on the tamox I seem 277 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 2: to be having more intense ones and more frequent And 278 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 2: this is it for five years. It's not unbearable, it's 279 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 2: just annoying. I like the cold. So the last four 280 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 2: years or so, I've been learning a little bit more 281 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 2: about the pause, not that it helps much, other than 282 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 2: knowing there was help if I had the natural one 283 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 2: and it was harsh, and I have a great ghano 284 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 2: who was ready to help me with my hormone therapy 285 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 2: if needed. Here's some great resources I came across doctor Jenkunter, 286 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 2: she posts on Instagram, has a newsletter as she wrote, 287 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 2: the Vagina Bibble and the Menopause Manifesto Menopause Taylor on 288 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 2: YouTube aka Menopause Barbie. 289 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: Amazing. 290 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's really good information because, as you know, 291 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure this stems from my perimenopause what conversation, 292 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 2: because I'm still. 293 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: Going what. 294 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 2: And looking at all the options, and yeah, I think 295 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 2: this is why. I know a lot of people have 296 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 2: issues with the IUDs and talk about like really being 297 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 2: scared of them, really having painful experiences, and the floating 298 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 2: IUD is the fright, and yes I still check my 299 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 2: string often for that, but not having a period. The 300 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 2: first year of my IUD was very painful, but after 301 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 2: that worth that pain. Because I have not had that issue, 302 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 2: I will have some like PMS feelings, but it's. 303 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: Not anywhere near what I was going through. 304 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 2: I told you, I think I had like clots the 305 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 2: size of nickels and quarters, and apparently that's that of normal, 306 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,359 Speaker 2: and I didn't know that, and all I was given. 307 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: Was ibuprofen and sent to school yep. 308 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 2: And like people didn't understand until they had to experience pain. 309 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 2: People would have different types how painful it was. And 310 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 2: I think because of that, the insertion of the IUD 311 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 2: was like okay, Like it really didn't bother me at all, 312 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 2: Like I went and running and everything. And then I 313 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 2: have had friends who were like taking all kinds of 314 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: medication and vomiting and I was like, what what's happening? 315 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 2: Which we two of us and I just had a 316 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 2: local anesthetic. But all of that to say is like yeah, 317 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 2: I like, but I understand, like pills are really concerning. 318 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 2: When I was first getting on the pill, I was 319 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 2: sick as a dog. They were so like it was 320 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 2: so all for me that I could not stand up 321 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 2: straight and then had to get it changed it But 322 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: because I'm like, it's fine as fine, my body is adjusting, 323 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 2: I waited two weeks to say something was wrong even 324 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 2: though I couldn't stand up. But yeah, like I definitely 325 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 2: all of that was like so many of that is 326 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 2: that concern. I need to get a mammogram and I 327 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 2: haven't done that yet. I don't know the history for 328 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 2: my family at all because I'm adopted, you know, And 329 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 2: then seeing all this is something I'm like, I really 330 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 2: do need to take care of that. 331 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: So, Debbie, thank you so much for writing in yes, yes, 332 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: when we've heard a lot of it from a lot 333 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: of people about this as well, and I feel like, 334 00:17:55,560 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: once again, unfortunately the general consensus was no one talked 335 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: to me about it. I didn't know what it was 336 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: the thing. Everyone expects me to deal with it. And 337 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: then you compare yourself to your friend and they're having 338 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: a completely different science. So I have learned that too, 339 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: like sometimes your friend and you are not the same. 340 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: Both are legitimate, but you were not experiencing not all 341 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: the time, No, not all the time. Cale wrote, First off, 342 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: I'm not finished reading your book yet, because it takes 343 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: me forever to read things, but I perched it the 344 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: day A came ouh, thank you. During that time, I 345 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 1: had just helped my best little pal across the Rainbow Bridge, 346 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: and your book was one of the only things that 347 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: brought me joy. So thank you both so much for 348 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: all the work you put into it. It's fantastic so far, 349 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: and I can't wait to finish it. Second, I just 350 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: finished the section where Annie shares her experiences of being 351 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: a sexual and bi romantic, and I just had to 352 00:18:56,119 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: put my thoughts down while they're still fresh in my mind. Annie, 353 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: I resonate with what you went through and go through 354 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: so much it's almost uncanny. I think I've shared before 355 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: that I am a trans man when it comes to 356 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: my sexuality, having lived as a woman for twenty six years. 357 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: I appreciated what you said about feeling like you can't 358 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 1: even trust yourself to know what you want. I find 359 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 1: myself wandering that all the time these days. But what 360 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 1: I really wanted to share is that you discussing asexuality 361 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: on Sminty was really the first time I'd ever thought 362 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: about it critically. It was the first time I ever 363 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: considered that to be something I might identify with, and 364 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: so I wanted to thank you for your vulnerability and 365 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: sharing that on your platform. I know some days we 366 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: all wonder the work we do really matters. So I 367 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: wanted to tell you and Samanthe two that the work 368 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: you do matters to me in more ways than one. 369 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 1: I'm thirty one and just now exploring who I am 370 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: in some ways, and I too find it quite exciting. 371 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: Thank you, Klee, Thank you Cale. I'm sorry bout you boo. Yeah, 372 00:19:56,040 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: Kale sent a picture of coconut. I believe, very very cute, 373 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: very very cute, very sorry. 374 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 2: Coconut is such a good name. 375 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: It's really good and it fits. It fits coconut corn. 376 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, thank you so much for writing it about this. 377 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 1: I know I talked about it before, but I was scared. 378 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: There were certain things I was scared to write down 379 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: and have people read, even though we talk about on 380 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: the show. But that was a that section was up 381 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: there with I don't know what. I don't know how 382 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: people are gonna react to this. I don't know what 383 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,719 Speaker 1: they'll think. I hope that in some way people connect 384 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: with it. Vulnerable. Yeah, So thank you so much for 385 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 1: relating that it is something that like, I don't know. 386 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: I just really appreciate you writing this, because some days 387 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: I'll be like, this doesn't matter, really, I mean what 388 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: am I doing? And then I had a conversation with 389 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: a friend recently who was like, I didn't know what 390 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: a sexuality was until you started talking about it, and 391 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: now I'm really thinking about it in my experience, and 392 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: I think it really resonates with me. And so thank you. 393 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: We really do appreciate all your listeners taking this time 394 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: and being vulnerable with us and Cale You've been such 395 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: a delight in so many messages, things ranging from Star 396 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 1: Wars to things as deep ass that think, well star 397 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: Wars is deep? What am I saying? Insulting yourself from this? 398 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: I know what am I saying? Thank you, thank you? 399 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 2: And then Jude wrote, first off, I read the book 400 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 2: A good job. Well, thank you, But I was thinking 401 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 2: a lot about ethical purchasing like this last happy Hour 402 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 2: was about uh. One time trying to buy a frame, 403 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 2: I wanted to avoid Amazon, so I ordered off eBay 404 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 2: and when I received the frame, under the first layer 405 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 2: of packaging was an Amazon Prime envelope. So it felt 406 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,719 Speaker 2: like I paid more just for someone to buy something 407 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 2: off Amazon. For me, Regarding the problem at Midtlely, I 408 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,199 Speaker 2: have not bought off this site yet, but artists co 409 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 2: op or artists do co op. Seems like it may 410 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 2: be the solution to Atsy's awful stances. I want to 411 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 2: purchase ethically, and I know there's that meme about no 412 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 2: ethical consumption under capitalism, but it's so frustrating. My sympathy 413 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 2: is regarding the ad problem, I hear a lot more 414 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 2: podcasters complaining about how podcast ads work in the dynamic 415 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 2: ones I mean yes, and the fact that it pays 416 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 2: for our bills. 417 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: I do feel like the most cynical, like old detective 418 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: hearing this from you, which I appreciate, thank you for. 419 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 2: No. 420 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 1: No, I mean like, because I've been dealing with this 421 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 1: problem for a long time, so I like you knew 422 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: podcasters coming out complaining about it. Oh, like that, welcome 423 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: to the party. 424 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 2: Honestly, I'm more frustrated at the fact that our cash 425 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 2: flow has everything to do with what we're willing to 426 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 2: speak for, and there's. 427 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: Not a lot of great company I'm sorry. 428 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 2: Like, like when we talk about how Etsy was, once 429 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 2: upon a time a great company, and now, yeah, we 430 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 2: have people much like what you're talking about with the 431 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 2: eBay thing, buy off of Amazon and send it. They 432 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 2: have more big companies advertising on Etsy pretending to be 433 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 2: small companies and they're not, and then they're overcharging the 434 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 2: small businesses that are legitimately trying to make it. So 435 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 2: it's one of those things of like it's getting worse. 436 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 2: The ones that we think are good are not good. 437 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 2: I actually bought a gift for a friend in Canada. 438 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 2: It's a Canadian company and it says it's ethically grade 439 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 2: and then you go through and get the scores and 440 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 2: it's not that great and it's like son of a Yeah, 441 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 2: but like it's just it's just really annoying because you know, 442 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 2: you really want to try to do these things, but 443 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 2: it's so limited. And again it's also very privileged to 444 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 2: be able to do those things because the cost or availability, 445 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 2: Like it's just a sort but artists co op coop, 446 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 2: which was what I was calling it previously until aie 447 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 2: told me otherwise. 448 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: I could still be wrong. 449 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure, so Jude, if you know, if you 450 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 2: hear us and you're like, y'all are wrong, please let 451 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:13,239 Speaker 2: us know. 452 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 1: But yeah, so that sounds amazing. I want to check 453 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: that out for sure. Yes, me too, I probably do that. 454 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: I'm curious. Yeah. And lastly, Jordan wrote, Hey, Annie and Samantha, 455 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: I hope that you're both doing well. I just finished 456 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: the most recent Monday Mini on Board Games, and I 457 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: wanted to give you guys some more information on mennon 458 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: Nights and answer Samantha's question about how they feel about queerness. 459 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: I'm excited. My mother grew up in a fairly small 460 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: men and Night community in northern British Columbia, Canada. Her 461 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: whole life, she was taught that queerness was something bad 462 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: and sinful. Later in life, her brother, my uncle, came 463 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: out as gay and he was banished from the men 464 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 1: and Nite church. He moved down south to Vancouver and 465 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 1: doesn't have a great relationship with his parents anymore. Most 466 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: people in the community haven't talked to him since he 467 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: came out. My mother is the only one who fully 468 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: supports him. My mom describes the Mennonites as in quote 469 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 1: ultra Christian cult and they are very into heteronormative ideas. 470 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: On the bright side, they do make some pretty good 471 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: food lol. I think it would be great if you 472 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: guys considered making an episode about them and their culture. 473 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,959 Speaker 1: Thanks for reading. I love the show. Okay, somebody answered 474 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: your call. That's thank you. 475 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 2: I really was curious because it's sadder than I wanted 476 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 2: it to be. But I was really hoping because you know, 477 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 2: sometimes I think about Quaker people and they're amazing people, 478 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 2: but I don't know their stands on queer community either. 479 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: So hopefully you know about Quakers, let me know. 480 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 2: But it seems like, yeah, that makes sense, like any 481 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 2: conservative ideals. It is really hard to not see that 482 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 2: and then but it makes me sad a little bit 483 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 2: on my ally. So thank you Jordan. That really does 484 00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 2: answer my question. That's thank you. Yeah, on again. We 485 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 2: appreciate so much because we don't have this experience. We 486 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 2: didn't know, and I love that someone in the audience 487 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 2: was like, I can answer, I can help. 488 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: That is amazing time. Let's go. I love it so much, 489 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: and you're right, that is a good episode we could do. 490 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: That's great, we do topic well. Thank you again all 491 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: of you listeners for writing in. 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