1 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to Between the Horns. Everybody. It is Wednesday, January 2 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: twenty third. I'm Miles Simmons. Across from me at this 3 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: table is DeMarco far and the Los Angeles Rams are 4 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: NFC champions. They are headed to Super Bowl fifty three 5 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: in Atlanta. I'm pumped, demarc I love it. You're getting 6 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: louder and louder and louder. It's awesome. Are you happy 7 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: that they qualified for the Super Bowl or they beat 8 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: the Saints in Rolands or both? Yes? Yeah, yes, I 9 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: am happy that both of those things happen. Great answer, absolutely. 10 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: Who cares about a miss call? Right? Yeah, there are 11 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 1: a lot of misscalls in games. There are a ton 12 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 1: of miss calls in that and that's not the reason 13 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: why you want or lost. It is not and we 14 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,319 Speaker 1: will talk plenty about that. But the Rams did win 15 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: twenty six to twenty three over the Saints. They're in 16 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: the Superdome. And I do want to point out before 17 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: we go any further than on our last episode together, 18 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: DeMarco and we were texted this yesterday by our friend 19 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: mail Back Matt. Yeah, you literally said zeroline longfield goal 20 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: to win it. That is how we closed the show. 21 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: I remember, yeah, so what are the lottery numbers? I 22 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: don't know. Let me think about him. You know, but 23 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: it was going to be close. I mean that's your 24 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: third meeting with them, you know, you know them, they 25 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 1: know you, right, your third meeting in the last two years, 26 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: I mean third meeting this year including preseason. I mean, yeah, yeah, 27 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: it's it's bound to be close. I mean it's not 28 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: going to be easy to move the football either team. 29 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: It's not going to be easy for them to do. 30 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: So you you figured it was going to be close. 31 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: And if it comes down to a last possession, you 32 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 1: have a guy that can kick it from the moon, 33 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: you know, and pretty much he did to win the game. 34 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: But what did you see on that Where were you standing? 35 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: Right under the goal post? Okay, so I had a 36 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: view of the Saints defense. Yeah, and then I saw 37 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: the ball come out and it was straight. I mean, 38 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: I'm right under the goal post. I knew the minute 39 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: he hit it this is good. So I could see 40 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: the crowd just go dead. So I'm watching the football 41 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: goes through and I'm telling you, Myles, that ball hit 42 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: them hit the net hard. I believe it. That was good. 43 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: From sixty seven maybe even beyond beyond. I think it 44 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: was good from seventy, Like Jared Goff set it after 45 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 1: the game, JJJ. John Johnson the third set it after 46 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 1: the game too. That thing looked good from seven. I 47 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: mean I was right at the net with the guys 48 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: that catch it, and then it made the net move. 49 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: I mean, that's in the fifth row. If there's no 50 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: no net from where he kicked it. Amazing. So I 51 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: go from the ball to the field and I just 52 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: see white jerseys on the field going nuts and I 53 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: could hear them and nothing else. Yeah, it was awesome. Yeah, yes, 54 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 1: and it was great. I mean, you know, you listen 55 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: to Jav's call of that and he goes and the 56 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: Superdome is silent. Yeah, great call. I mean, but you 57 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 1: know you have to give them credit. And I don't 58 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: want to take anything away from the Saints defense. Please 59 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong if I say this, a lot 60 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: of what went wrong for the rams on offense had 61 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: less to do about the Saints players and more about 62 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: that crowd noise. I would agree with that. Yeah, you 63 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: just couldn't here. That changed a lot. You couldn't change 64 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: the snap count. They caught you slipping a few times. 65 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 1: What do they call that when you're singing in the shower? 66 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: Sound deprivation. That's closely what it was. I mean, sensory deprivation. 67 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: Sensory sensory deprivation. You couldn't change anything, and they were 68 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 1: taking advantage of that, right. But once the Rams figured 69 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: that out and got comfortable with the crowd noise, they 70 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 1: started to move to football. You know, that was interesting. 71 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: Jared Goff talked about that after the game, the fact 72 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: that like you, you couldn't hear and be his helmet 73 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: went dead. The comms unit in his helmet was just dead. 74 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: On the first couple of drives, he was actually wearing 75 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: Sean Manion's helmet. Wow. So yeah, that's Hollywood, right. I 76 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: mean it explains some stuff, I mean like just them 77 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: not looking out of sync, you know, and the snap 78 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: count looking weird and everything. It just there were a 79 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: lot of things that they had to overcome, just in 80 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: terms of that technology aspect of things. Even the first 81 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: couple of plays when the Saints got on top of 82 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: you thirteen to nothing, you spotted them thirteen points. If 83 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: you look at the offense, the players were there, the 84 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: play call was there. They were just one or two 85 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: play players away from making plays from those plays actually 86 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: busting out being big. There was a screen that was 87 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: almost there the run play that got blown up early. 88 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: I mean, you just couldn't hear or see the middle 89 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: linebacker blitzing at the same time, you know what I'm saying, Yes, 90 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: to get that communicated out. So it was mostly a 91 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: function of crowd noise that was disrupting the offense less 92 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: what the Saints were doing. Right, And when that happens, 93 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: I think it tells you what home field advantage is 94 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: because when you don't when you can't get the snap 95 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: count quite right, because you can't hear anything and you 96 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: can't communicate, it takes away that element of it. So 97 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: you're not you're less the hammer and more than nail 98 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: in the situation. You know what I mean? Absolutely? Yeah, 99 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: I mean you're you're you're the one, you're the you're 100 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: the catcher's mit. Yeah, they're pitching and you're not dictating 101 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 1: as you usually would on offense, right, and if you 102 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: catch guys slipping, if you're at home and they try 103 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: to run the same scheme at you, you'll be able 104 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,239 Speaker 1: to pick that up and communicate it out and change 105 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: the play. When it's loud like that, you have no choice. 106 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: You can't get it out. Just run the play and 107 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: let's see what happens. Right, So you mentioned this, and 108 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: let's let's go here. Let's just start with it. You know, 109 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: the non past interference call for nikel Robie Coleman. I 110 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: feel bad for the officials, now, really, however, we do. 111 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: I feel bad for the officials because it's so obvious, man. 112 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's an obvious miss. There's no gray area. 113 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: It's just two guys, two officials that just blew a call, 114 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: and you have to own it, just like players and 115 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: coaches do when you make a mistake. You have to 116 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: own it. So not coming down harder on them than 117 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: we do players or coaches or gms or anybody that 118 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: makes a mistake in the National Football League. But I 119 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: do feel bad because the whole world is talking about it. 120 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: They think that play changed the entire season. I don't 121 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: want to be that guy. I wouldn't want to be 122 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: that guy or guy no. Yeah, and people do seem 123 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: to think that about that particular call, but I don't. 124 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: I feel like in that situation, especially, the bigger problem 125 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 1: was if you're the Rams or you're the Saints. We 126 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: can take it from two ways. Well, the bigger problem 127 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: for the Rams is that you allowed that forty three 128 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,119 Speaker 1: yard completion to happen so that they could get getting 129 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: far down the field. Yes, yeah, yeah, which I'm still 130 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: scratching my head over I am too, yeah yeah, So 131 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: that was the bigger problem with the Rams. The bigger 132 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: problem with the Saints is that you decided to run 133 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: two pass plays on three on a set of downs 134 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: where you had three chances and the Rams had two 135 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: time outs. That is a Sean Payton issue. Now, Sean 136 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 1: Payton did the exact right thing, which has pointed the 137 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: rests and say they made the mistake, because it gets 138 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: you to look away from the mistake he made. Yeah, 139 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: you run the football in that situation and at least 140 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: forced the Rams to burn timeouts, right, yeah, you can't 141 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: help them, so not only so, that's exactly it. So 142 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: that happens, and then instead of the Rams having no 143 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: timeouts and probably I don't know a minute left about 144 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: yeah yahabouts if you even if you run, if you 145 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: throw it on third down, that's what would have happened. Right, 146 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: So instead of that happening, you have the You give 147 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: the Rams a minute in forty seconds and a timeout 148 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: right to go down the field and score. That to 149 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: me is more where the ire should be directed. And 150 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: I understand, you know, you can say whatever you want 151 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: about Nickell Robey Coleman, who I think had a tremendous game. 152 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: Watching that game back, they were shooting at him, they were, yeah, 153 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: they were coming after him, they were. And you can 154 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: see how many plays he made. I mean, broke one 155 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: up in the end zone early on in the game. 156 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: There was one that he almost got up in the pick. 157 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Wow. Right, stay, yeah, exactly. So to me, 158 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: there's I understand, you know, I do. I get it 159 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: from the New Orleans perspective. You know why, like this 160 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: particular call is such a big deal. However, I think 161 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: that there are bigger things. And a game has never 162 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: won or lost on one play, right, Like the Saints 163 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: have the ball first and overtime. Right, did the past 164 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: interference or the non call happened before or after Breas 165 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: through the pick before? Right? So there's a lot of 166 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: football left after that play. So because you lost, you're 167 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: probably going to harp on that one play and say 168 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: that's the reason you lost, but we all know what happened. 169 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: There was a lot of football left. There was play defense, right, 170 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying I feel bad for the officials 171 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: for missing that call. Sure did it affect the outcome 172 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: of the game. Sure, but it wasn't everything. No, Yeah, 173 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: absolutely was not right. You could have slipped somebody through 174 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: and blocked the field goal attempt at the end of 175 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, you still lined up with eleven, just 176 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: like the Rams did when the game was on the 177 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: line and they kicked the field goal to beat. You 178 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: live with that. But if you want to blame it 179 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: on the call, then so be it, right, and that's 180 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: my guest. Yeah, that's what they seem to want to do. 181 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: But it's not going to affect the ultimate outcome, which 182 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: is that the Rams won twenty six twenty three and 183 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 1: we're going to the Super Bowl and they're not. I 184 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: heard about that rule. I won't even quote it, but 185 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: they said that Roger Goodell could actually line both teams 186 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: back up and let's play it again. Yeah, if there 187 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: is a chance. The rule, the language is it's a 188 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: catastrophic event. Right, I'm pretty sure that wasn't catastrophe. This 189 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: does not count. Yeah, no as catastrophic, but good luck. 190 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: If he wanted to line both teams up good right, 191 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: There'd be no way in hell I would do it 192 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: if I was a player. I'll ask you this, Do 193 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: you think that they should expand replay and allow all 194 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: these different things to review? You know? After that? Yes, 195 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: I do. Really, you can't allow that to happen again. Okay, yeah, 196 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,719 Speaker 1: so I'm I was never against it to begin with. 197 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 1: I mean, replaying passe interferrans. I mean, how much time 198 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: does that add to a football game? I don't know. 199 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: I don't really care. Just get the call right. But 200 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 1: I do feel bad for the officials because you have 201 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 1: to help them out. And I tell them this, I 202 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 1: told them this from training camp. When I see a 203 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 1: lot of the guys that I know, they expect you 204 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: to keep up with this fast game and they're giving 205 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: you more to think about. This is when the lowering 206 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 1: the head came in, right. I'm like, now they want 207 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: you to be judges on the field of that. I mean, 208 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 1: what else can they ask you guys to do. You're 209 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: just human. So if you want to really help them out, 210 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: then I think pis are plays like that should be reviewable. 211 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: I think that they're I'm I'm of the camp where 212 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: I think it's a slippery slope and I think that 213 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: there's and you know, it's so funny when people use 214 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: that term, like I think of like bigger societal issues 215 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: and like how people just want to maintain the status quo, 216 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: just to maintain the status quo. But I don't think 217 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 1: that everything should be able to be reviewed because of 218 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: a time factor, like how much time are you going 219 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: to add on to it? Be? Because sometimes when you 220 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,599 Speaker 1: slow things down, you're going to obviously see things that 221 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: you didn't see in real time. And if you're going 222 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: to play the game, you have to to me be 223 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: able to officiate it in real time. I don't quite 224 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: know what the solution is, but you're right that that 225 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: blown call should not ever happen. However, in my that's 226 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 1: not even great. I know, black and white. However, right, 227 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: what I can't do is separate my personal feeling on it, 228 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: because selfishly I want to go to the bowl, man, right, 229 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 1: and if that, if that happen, I don't know, but 230 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: if it flopped, If it were flopped, no, for sure 231 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 1: you'd be talking about that a lot would be right. Yes, 232 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: you're right, and so I don't know. I think I'm 233 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: not looking at it. I can't. I have a hard 234 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: time looking at it from an objective perspective. I guess 235 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: that that's it. No. No, It's happened twice this year, 236 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: once in Dallas where they called um Dak Prescott uh 237 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 1: in the grasp when clearly oh you mean when against 238 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: in the division, right versus Dallas. I mean, I'm like, whoa, 239 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: that's that's a bad call. Guys. Yeah, um, when stuff 240 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,719 Speaker 1: like that happens. And then the Nickell Robie Coleman non call. 241 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: When that happens in the game, for a second, I 242 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: could take off my Rams hat and say, wait a minute, 243 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 1: hold on, let's just call it fair. That's that's not right, 244 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: and then we move on. Believe me, I'm happy. I 245 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: was happy for the no call, no doubt, of course. 246 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: I was like, wow, man, how can you guys miss that? 247 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: And let me say this, Nickell Robie Coleman did the 248 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: exact right thing. I could care less. That play was 249 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 1: wide open. They had you you've got to make a 250 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: play on the football. Sometimes it is going to be 251 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: an infraction just to save a touch. I am with you. Yes, well, 252 00:11:58,240 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: you say the same thing to a left tackle. If 253 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: you beat that bag, grab the damn guy, don't let 254 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: him blast your quarterback, take the hold, right, yeah, because 255 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: you know what, at least if you do that, you 256 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: live to fight another place slutely and your quarterback's alive 257 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: right right. And in that in Roby's situation, it's it's okay, 258 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: I have to do something anything to make sure they 259 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 1: don't get a touchdown here, yeah, because something's not right 260 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 1: on defense. And I think when you watch the play, 261 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,599 Speaker 1: you can kind of tell they're signaling they're doing this 262 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: and that, you know, waving their arms, and Roby just 263 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: comes over and he's like, I have to make a play. 264 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: I have to make sure that he doesn't canta. I gotta, 265 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: I gotta do something right. He's he's the free safety 266 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 1: in that moment. He's the guy that's the last line 267 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: of defense. You've got to make a play legal or not. 268 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: You've got to stop them from scoring exactly. I remember 269 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: when I was growing up, there was a cornerback named 270 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: Lewis Breeden Uh played for the Cincinnati Bengals. All Pro guy, 271 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: great cornerback. And this is before the rule was changed 272 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: on passing deference calls in the end zone. It was 273 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: just a plus fifteen. Oh, but there was a play 274 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: where he was beaten. He was in the end zone, 275 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: the guy had position and he could you could see 276 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: the look on his face like, Okay, I'm just gonna 277 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: have to interfere because I can't give up a touchdown. 278 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: He just tossed the guy to the ground. The next 279 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: year they change the call or change the penalty. Yeah, 280 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: so if you have a PI in the end zone, 281 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: you put it on the one or a couple of 282 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 1: years later, yes, but because of a play like that. 283 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: So if a play like that causes reap our pis 284 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: to be reviewed, I'm all for it. You just can't 285 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 1: have that. Yeah, yeah, no, that's fair. That's very fair. 286 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: But I think that there was so much more to 287 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 1: that game. And I think if we talk about the 288 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 1: overtime period where Dante Fowler gets in there and he 289 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: plays that hit on breeze and the ball floats up 290 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: and John Johnson's able to catch it, that to me 291 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: is the basically the most consequential play of the game 292 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: until you know the zerline fifty seven yard. It's so funny, man, 293 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 1: I mean, the way my eyes go and the way 294 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: my brain works. When Fowler hit his arm, all I 295 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: saw was like dollar signs. Yeah, I did, like, come up, 296 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: you just made yourself millions with that play. And then 297 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: when Johnson caught it off his back, same it sounded 298 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 1: like Super Mario Brothers. That's how you make money. You're 299 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: right there, you make those special plays. But yeah, man, 300 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: it turned everything a good rush. The reason he was 301 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,719 Speaker 1: brought here was for that situation. You would say it 302 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: paid off with that one play. I would say that 303 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: abbot is there. Yeah, and you did it without the 304 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: benefit of crowd noise and making that play on the 305 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: other end, like you said, that was as big as 306 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: any other non call. Yes, yeah, right there, well for sure. 307 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: And it's interesting Dante followers, is this guy that seems 308 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: to make those big time plays in the big time situations. 309 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw it like there. I 310 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: haven't watched the Inside the NFL episode, but I believe 311 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: they had Dante Fowler miked um. The NFL films did, 312 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: and so they caught it after the game where Donald 313 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: comes up to Dante Fowler and they put it out 314 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: in this trailer on Twitter and he and the field. Yes, 315 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: I saw this yeah, I go ahead, Donald tells him. 316 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: You know, hey, man, you you basically just won that 317 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: game for us. Yeah, you made that play. Big time 318 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: players make big time plays and big time games. I 319 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: did that, absolutely, Yeah they do. I mean, look, when 320 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: it's your time, and it's so funny, you'll, especially when 321 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:09,119 Speaker 1: you get into the playoffs and then the conference championships 322 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: and then moving on to the Super Bowl. That team 323 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: is good. That guy is good, just as good as 324 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: you are. So you'll bump your head forever trying to 325 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: make a play and you just can't. It's the hardest 326 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: game you'll ever play in your life. But when it 327 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: does come to you and it's your time to make 328 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: a play, you have to make it. You have to 329 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: be ready sometimes, like like they said Nickel, Robie Coleman, 330 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: the football gods will you know, part the Red Sea, 331 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: and it's your time to make that play, and you 332 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: have to be ready. You can't miss, right, And he didn't. 333 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: He didn't at all. And that was why. I mean 334 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: John Johnson, who I think is at a terrific season, 335 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: somebody who probably should have been a Pro Bowler. But 336 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: now we don't care because the Rams are going to 337 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. Anyway. But he is somebody who has 338 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: been able to step up in different situations and just 339 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: make it a lot of different plays. I mean, think 340 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: about that play that he had against the San Francisco 341 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: forty nine ers. I guess it was in week seven 342 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: where he ripped the ball out, you know, and made 343 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: that interception on George Kittle Like that was great. And 344 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: so for him to be in position and be falling backwards, 345 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: his momentum is taking him back and still be able 346 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: to make that catch, that is a very very difficult play. 347 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: I haven't done this to you in two years, but 348 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: I will bet you a thousand bucks. You couldn't do 349 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: that on twenty tries. Oh, if we give you twenty tries, 350 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: you couldn't do it. If Michael Thomas pushed me, probably 351 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: not right. If like Clarence, I might be able to 352 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: do it, But like if Thomas, I don't think the 353 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: degree of difficulty. I mean, you see guys like that 354 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: have situations where they have a similar type play to 355 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: make and they hit the ground and something happens and 356 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: the ball comes out and it's an incompletion. Yeah, not 357 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: this time. And I heard him say this in the 358 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: locker room It was so funny because it was a 359 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: mess in there. It was a tight locker room. You 360 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: saw it, Oh yeah, it was. It was. He was 361 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: walking around behind it. He said, it may not be 362 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: the first, it may not be the second, it may 363 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: not be the third, but eventually I'm going to get you. 364 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: He did say that. I heard him say it. He 365 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: said it to me. I'm like, you know what, You're right. 366 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: He's had opportunities, He's been close a lot, and finally 367 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: he made him pay. He did because he had an 368 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: opportunity or two earlier in that game where he could 369 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: have maybe had a pick and it just didn't quite work. 370 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: Or I mean, you could go back to that game. 371 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: I guess it was against Dallas where he almost had 372 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: a pick in the end zone. Yeah, yeah, it was 373 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: that against Dallas. Was that against San Francisco the week before? 374 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,239 Speaker 1: You know, it's all starting to run together. It kind 375 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: of is to me. To me, the biggest play, one 376 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 1: of the plays that stand out for him for me 377 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: was against Philadelphia when he covered Urts the in the 378 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: end zone. Oh yeah, I mean knocked the thing back. 379 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 1: That is a sure fire touchdown, it is, and he 380 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: recovered and made the play and got it out. Tremendous 381 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: play that right there. I would have said, you guys 382 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: screwed up the Pro Bowl. I don't know that many 383 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: guys that can make that play. Agreed. Yeah. Yeah, And 384 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: so he's really growing up. He's i think, is really 385 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: playing within himself. Well yeah, that's one of those, you know, 386 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: sports expressions that people use that's kind of means something 387 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: but doesn't mean anything. But you know, I just think 388 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: when you've got a guy who's a second year guy, 389 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: we talk about, you know, taking steps and somebody growing 390 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: up and taking the next step to becoming a great 391 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: All Pro or whatever it is. John Johnson has been 392 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: doing that because you know, it's the the iroon Donald saying, again, 393 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: big time players make big time plays in big time situations, 394 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: and John Johnson, I think, has continued to step up 395 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: and do those kinds of things. Yeah. Man, well god, 396 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: you haven't seen scarface, so never mind. But it's the 397 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: same as when Tony Montana was talking to Frank talking 398 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: down to Frank for the first time, when Tony said, 399 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm a boss now. Yeah, that's the 400 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: same time before after he says say hello to my 401 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: little friend. This is way before this is when he 402 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: first steps out on his own, Like you're saying, he's 403 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 1: coming into his own. Yeah, Tony was working for a guy. 404 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: And then Tony says, you know what, I can be 405 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: the boss. That's John Johnson. I'm no longer a part 406 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: of this defense. I'm leading the defense. Yeah. Yeah, that's 407 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 1: that's the guy we're starting to see. And that is 408 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: exactly what I think you want to see. And so 409 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: John Johnson is a funny guy, hilarious. And so when 410 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: he makes the pick and then he gets up and 411 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: then does the Choppa style dance, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's 412 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: that's pretty cool. When you make a play like that, 413 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: do whatever you want. That's you get to do that. Yes, yes, absolutely, 414 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: all eyes are on your house, All eyes are on 415 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:21,719 Speaker 1: you break the bike. I love that, and it sucks 416 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: because you can't stop him. Um way back, when do 417 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: you remember Jamal Anderson, the Atlanta Falcons running back used 418 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: to do the stupid dance called the dirty Bird. Okay, 419 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: well he scored on us again, right, and he's standing 420 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: right behind me doing the dirty Bird, and all I 421 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: wanted to do was break his back, and I'm like, 422 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: you know what, he earned it? Yeah, I have to 423 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: break us back before he gets in the zone. Yeah, 424 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: not after. Yes, when he scores, it's your box. Go ahead, exactly. 425 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: If you don't like it, stop him, right, Yeah, if 426 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 1: you don't like what he did, don't throw picks. Exactly right, exactly. 427 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: So let's talk about Jared Goff too, because he's speaking 428 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: of guys growing up, coming into their own whatnot. It's funny. 429 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: Um Gary Klein lost Angelist Time sort of asked him 430 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: that question, you know, do you feel like you took 431 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: the next step? Blah blah blah blah blah. What do 432 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: you after the game? And he goes, Jared goes, I 433 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: don't know, that's Gary, that's for you to write. God. Wow, 434 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 1: they don't let dummies in the cow for the most part. 435 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: They don't let dummies go to cow. Right. So he's 436 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: obviously a thinker, he's athletic, and he obviously loves the game. 437 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: So he's going to get better. I was I was 438 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: trying to explain to some people what I like about Goff, 439 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,959 Speaker 1: Jared Goff, and usually these stock answers are what how 440 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: he throws it, where he throws it, when he throws it. 441 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: Yadi Yadiyada absolutely all that stuff, accuracies, athletic blah blah 442 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Then it dawned on me. The stuff 443 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: I like about Jared is it's not actually when he 444 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: throws it, it's when he doesn't. And there was a 445 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: play early in the second quarter. They're throwing off play 446 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: action and Brandon Cooks is obviously the route that you 447 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 1: want to throw here, but the safety is driving on 448 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: the football. He read it, They are in the play. 449 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: They knew it. So he's Dan and Cooks has his 450 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: head turn looking back at Golf. If Golf lets it go, 451 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: Cooks his road kill. Bro. I mean, I'm serious. You're 452 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: up to the discretion of the safety where he wants 453 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: to hit Cooks, but it's going to be a shot 454 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 1: and he's going to be defenseless. But he dead's the 455 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: play Golf reads it, doesn't throw it. Dead's the play 456 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: moves on the second down. To me, that's genius. He's 457 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: not just running plays whatever McVeigh calls. I'm just gonna 458 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: run regardless of what the defense does. No, he's out 459 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 1: there plan. That was Aaron Rodgers like, and I know 460 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: they went to the same school. Sure, it's beyond the 461 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: play that's cold. It's a guy that's playing quarterback, calling 462 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: the play, seeing the field and deciding, you know, this 463 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: play is dead, We'll move on to the next one. 464 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 1: That is stuff that moves you into elite territory. Well, 465 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: that's the kind of thing that I don't necessarily know 466 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: that people can't appreciate. You know, when you talk about 467 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 1: system quarterback, right, and that's the label that everybody wants 468 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 1: to give to Jared Goff. But when it's just a system, 469 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,719 Speaker 1: then if that's where the play is, then you're probably 470 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: just going to throw the ball and make your receiver 471 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: roadkill if that's what you are, right. Yeah, So that's 472 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: what I call throwers. All you are as a thrower, Yeah, 473 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: you're just coming in and just whatever he says. You're 474 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: throwing it there regardless of what the defense does. Right. 475 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: And so that's the difference I think when you have 476 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: a young quarterback. Young quarterbacks oftentimes might not know that 477 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: because these that's what's really different from college, at least 478 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: in my opinion. You know, you you're not necessarily making 479 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: those kinds of reads where the safety can just come 480 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: up and blow up somebody. That doesn't happen that often 481 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: in college. But in the NFL, everything is better. You know, 482 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: the athletes are better. They understand what you're trying to 483 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: do to attack them better. So they come up and 484 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: they hit guys right right. And so when a young 485 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: quarterback is going out there, he might throw that ball. 486 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 1: But once that guy is taking the next step, he 487 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: has more experience and so he understands what it is 488 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 1: that he's seeing. He's not going to make that throw. 489 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: You're going to dead the play and you're going to say, 490 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: all right, we're going on to something. Don't just limited 491 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 1: to young guys. I've seen some some old veteran quarterbacks 492 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: that throw it in there and get their guys just splattered. 493 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: I mean absolutely, I mean that that's a smart play. 494 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: That's playing chest not checkers. Right. You know, look, we 495 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: have second down coming up, and whatever play comes off 496 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: the sideline or in my headset is going to be 497 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 1: just as good as the one I turned down. Sure, 498 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 1: because the defense won on that play. So let's save it, 499 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: throw the ball out of bounds, let's get the second 500 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: down play in, and let's move the football. You mentioned 501 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: the headset, and I think we mentioned this at the 502 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: top of the show. It was really interesting just to 503 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 1: see the methods that the rams were employing in order 504 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: to like sort of get the crowd noise out of 505 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: Goff's head so he could hear a little bit. So 506 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: they put tape over the year holes. You see that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 507 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever seen that before. Oh really, 508 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: But I came across it on Twitter, like somebody was 509 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,360 Speaker 1: like tweeted it at me and was like, I used 510 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,239 Speaker 1: to do well that that's an old trick. I mean, 511 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 1: that's for crowd noise for quarterbacks, but we used to 512 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: do that for defensive linemen that kept jumping off sides. 513 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 1: You can look, dude, and they don't hear anything. Get 514 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 1: your eye on the football, Michael Brocker's yeah, get your 515 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: eyes on the football. You move when it moves, not 516 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: before or after. See you when the little brown thing moves. Yes, 517 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 1: when the point of the football moves, you move right right, 518 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: And so that that that's the difference. But I did 519 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: think that was interesting that that they did that for 520 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: Golf's home, and he said, you know, I wish we 521 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: had done it earlier because then I would have been 522 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: able to hear it right right next time you look 523 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 1: at like a guy that's like, if it's Sue or 524 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: if it's Brocker's that has one of those encroachment penalties, 525 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: look at the quarterback's head and look at where he's barking. 526 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 1: Ninety percent of the time, he's barking right at that guy, 527 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: which means you are a jump threat now right. Yeah, 528 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 1: they think Brady will try to do it. They think 529 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: they can get you when they need to get you, 530 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: and they're gonna bark right at you. Yes, you know 531 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: how I know that. I was that guy. I'm like, 532 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:51,360 Speaker 1: are you shouting at me? Yeah, he's shouting at me. Yeah? Right? 533 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: How many offs? Oh? Man, they're a virus man, Like 534 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: there was a year when I had like ten and 535 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: then none next season. Like when it starts, you just 536 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: can't stop yourself. Huh yeah, And believe me, it's not 537 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: because you want to make a mistake. It's just your 538 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: desire to make a play. I want to make a 539 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: play so bad, and sometimes you forget fundamentals, as in 540 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: move when the ball moves right. Interesting. Yeah, I don't know. 541 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 1: I've never really played defense, so oh yeah, that's part 542 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: of why, because I just wasn't good at getting home. 543 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: I remember God in Atlanta Chris Chandler got me off 544 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: side and I was seven yards beyond him. I swear 545 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: I came off the football with my eyes closed. That's 546 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: all hard. I was trying to make a play, right, 547 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: I shouldn't do that. But in terms of golf, though, 548 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: I do want to talk about his two minute drives 549 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: because I mean, you have one at the end of 550 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: the first half that was instrumental, and then to be 551 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: able to get the ball back at the end of 552 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: the second half do what he did and get the 553 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 1: Rams in position to tie the game. There was a 554 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: lot going on there that I think is being a 555 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: little bit underrated. Go ahead in terms of Golf's skill 556 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: set and what he does. And this did not the 557 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: first play I want to talk about. I guess is 558 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: not necessarily on those two minute drives. But I think 559 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: one of his plays of the game was when he 560 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: was rolling to his right. It was kind of deep 561 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: in La territory a third and ten, rolls to his right, 562 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 1: settles and finds Gerald Everett just off schedule. Gerald Everett separates, 563 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: He's able to make the catch, and then Gerald Everett 564 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: gets up field. That was a special play, yeah, because 565 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: that's off schedule. It is that's not system quarterback man. 566 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: When they we used to train or just for fun 567 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: and special teams, I mean, just to get our attention 568 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: and understand how intricate special teams are. Our special teams. 569 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: Coaches get really flowery. So we're studying how they had 570 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: to land a capsule on the moon and how they 571 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: had to train the astronauts way back in the day 572 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: before we had all these computers and everything. Just the 573 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: old school guys, way back when you know what I'm 574 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: talking about. Yes, when a computer was like you know 575 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: the length of a building, yes, yeah, one big as 576 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 1: the studio. Yeah, that little laptop was you know, yards 577 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: and yards. So they would train him in the simulator 578 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: and they would drop them down and then all of 579 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: a sudden they would just take things away. Okay, now 580 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: you have no radar. Now you're missing a thruster. Now 581 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 1: you're missing this, and just see how they react. And 582 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: the best pilots are the ones that went to the 583 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: moon were the guys that didn't panic. They just moved 584 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: on to the next thing. Same thing with quarterbacking. Okay, 585 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: when you run it in practice, it is always going 586 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: to be perfect and the guy's going to be wide 587 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: open on schedule. Okay, what if it's not What if 588 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: you miss a block, what if the guy runs a 589 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: wrong route? What are you gonna do if you have 590 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: to hold the football? All that type stuff goes on 591 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: in his head within five seconds or less than that, 592 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: and you have to make the right choice when you 593 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: can't hear. Yeah, I'm with you. That stuff is special. 594 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: It's not about the tear drop drop in the bucket 595 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 1: to branding Cooks special stuff. I mean, that's a seven 596 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: on seven pass and that's beautiful. But the stuff you're 597 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: describing that moves you from average quarterback to great if 598 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: when you ask me when it's not perfect and you 599 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 1: can still make a play, I agree, and that's why 600 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: that is so impressive. But even on that drive that 601 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,959 Speaker 1: you know with that had the thirty six yard at 602 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks the play before on third and ten where 603 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 1: he's able to get it above that second level player 604 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 1: I think it was a linebacker and then into Brandon 605 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: Cook's hands. You know that. No, no, no, no, it's 606 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: seventeen yarder. This is the play before. Okay, go ahead, 607 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, So that's on the right side, and Cooks 608 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: is basically just running a comeback route. It's third down 609 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,360 Speaker 1: and ten. You're down at that point thirteen to three. 610 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: You need a touchdown, right, and he's able to continue 611 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: that drive with that big play. It's seventeen yards. I 612 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 1: was huge time. And then the Rams take the time 613 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: out and then they come out next play thirty six 614 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: yard down the left sideline to Brandon Cooks. See. I 615 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: think that's what Kurt Warner was talking about when we 616 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: were talking about what it means to be special in 617 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,719 Speaker 1: the postseason right before we kicked off versus Dallas. Right, 618 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,719 Speaker 1: it's you have to make the throws you should make, 619 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: and those are throws you should make and have to make. 620 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: It's not the big ones. It's not the ones that 621 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: that wind up on you know, every body's Sports Center replay. 622 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: It's the average throws that look easy that really aren't. 623 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: That you're taken with. The defense gives you that you 624 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: trust your receiver to be in the right spot and 625 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: you're laying it in there. Those are the special players 626 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: that keep you on the field and keep you in contention, 627 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: keep you around long enough and on the field long 628 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: enough so you have a chance to either tie it 629 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: up or win the game. Well, not only that, But 630 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: I think what you're talking about there, you know, when 631 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: you have to make the throw, when you're finding a 632 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: way to make the throw. Those two ones that he 633 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: made to Higbee in the overtime period, Yeah, we're huge. Yeah, 634 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: because Kim Jordan was right down his throat both times 635 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,959 Speaker 1: all and he refused to let that be the end. 636 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: And he did it in a way where how do 637 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: you say it? It was risky, but it was a 638 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: calculated risk. It wasn't like Jamis Winston backing up and 639 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: throwing it over the middle for nobody exactly. He did 640 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: the exact right thing with the football and got the 641 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: ball out. I mean that's you know, say what you 642 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: want about Jared Goff, but it's hard to dispute what 643 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: your own eyes see it is. Yeah, well that's funny 644 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: because you know those throws specifically, I see the rams 645 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: working on those kinds of things all the time. You know, 646 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: when the building pressure coming into your face, how do 647 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: you flip your hips make sure that you can get 648 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: off an accurate throat of where you wanted to go? Yeah, 649 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: exactly right, yeah, no exactly. I mean, like I don't 650 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,959 Speaker 1: do you remember last year, Maybe it was earlier this year. 651 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: I don't know time is a flat circle or whatever. Yeah, 652 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: but there was at one point, you know, they were 653 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: like throwing a bouncy ball at Jared Goff in the pocket. 654 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,479 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's like those are things you're doing, yes, 655 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: so you're not panicked, right, Like I remember Matt Lafleur 656 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: when he was still here before he became the head 657 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: coach of the Green Bay Packers, but they would run 658 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: drills in the red zone where all right, Matt, like 659 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: this is before practice or doing a special teams period. 660 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: Lafleur is running at Jared Goff pretending he's a defender. 661 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: So what does Jared Goff have to do in order 662 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: to make sure he avoids that defender? And then boom, 663 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: He's going to get rid of the ball quickly and efficiently. 664 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: Those kinds of things are like when you drill them 665 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: all the time and then you see them in practice 666 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: on the field, it's like, Okay, that's not that much 667 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: of a surprise that golf is able to do that, 668 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: because it's something that they've been working on since Sean 669 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: mcvig got here and implemented these different practice things, and 670 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: you're not gonna have the wheels of say, Lamar Jackson, 671 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: just to run, you're gonna have to throw your way 672 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: out of danger, right, and you have to be smart 673 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: with it. So yeah, I'm with you. I mean, not 674 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: to pick on a guy, but I mean I think 675 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: Sam Bradford would be the opposite. You saw what he 676 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: looked like when he came here, really bad, right, I 677 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: mean he was given up on the play after two steps, 678 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: like let me run over here, let me run backwards, 679 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,239 Speaker 1: throw the damn thing away. But here's a guy that, hey, 680 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: look okay, if I get pressure, I still have time 681 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: to do this and get the ball out, you know 682 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: what I mean. It's not dead if they get pressure 683 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: on the play. So yeah, he's he's really really mature. 684 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: Now the other guy that you're about to see in 685 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: two weeks top of the heat, man, I mean, there's 686 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: there's nothing he hasn't seen. Even if you have a 687 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: guy Scott Free on him where it's a kill shot, 688 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: it won't be. He won't be there by the time 689 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: you get there. Yep. The guy just has an eighth 690 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: sense about him. Absolutely, yeah. He knows what's going on 691 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: with his own offense, his defense. And even if you 692 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: slip a guy through. It's it's not going to be 693 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: the hit you think it's going to be right, right, 694 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: And that's the when you have guys like that, that's 695 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: how they become durable. Yeah, you know, remember the conversation 696 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: when Jared Goff was coming out of college, like, oh, 697 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: he's so slight, he's this, he's that. You know he 698 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: has tiny baby hands, which was funny at the combine. Yeah, 699 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: which he doesn't act, I mean, never mind, But so 700 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: the conversation is always how is he going to be 701 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: able to stand up two hits and take a sixteen 702 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: game season? And I saw this in a tweet and 703 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: I should give credit to it, but I can't remember 704 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: who the tweet was from. But the conversation with Goff 705 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: was that, and then with Wins it was always big, 706 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: he's durable, he's this, he's that. Well, who's the guy 707 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: that's been playing the last two seasons completely healthy and 708 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: able to do it? And like, this is not a 709 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: slight at Carson Wentz. Which I know that there were 710 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: some things in Philadelphia this week that came out, but 711 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz has been the one that has had more 712 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: injury concerns. True, I'd rather have a quarterback that protects 713 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: his body versus one that puts it at risk. And 714 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: that says a lot because I like guys like him Newton, 715 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: I do like mar Jackson. I like those type of quarterbacks. 716 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: They just put so much pressure on a defense. But eventually, 717 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: I mean, look, the bottom line is, I don't want 718 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: you to touch my quarterback at all. Your best your 719 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: best ability is available. I don't want you to hit 720 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: him at all. And I used to get mad at 721 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: Kurt Warner. Your body's not sure as man. That belongs 722 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: to us. Bro. Yeah, and when you're scrambling around, Look, 723 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: it's not for you to make a play run in 724 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: the football. That's Marshall's job. If you've got to scramble it, 725 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: find a safe spot to lay down and don't let 726 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: him touch you, right. We need you upright and healthy. 727 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: So I think that's I know that's what Brady has, 728 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: and I believe that's where Jared Goff is headed. I agree. 729 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,959 Speaker 1: I agree that's there is a play where I think 730 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: it was second and six and then golf. Instead of 731 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: you know, throwing it away or whatever, he takes the 732 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,239 Speaker 1: running lane, gets the first down and gets down, right, 733 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: That's what you want yeah, man, you are the flag, bro, 734 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: you are You're the prize in the Game of Thrones. Yeah, man, 735 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: I mean, look, one hit on you is is all 736 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: it takes to fire up a sideline, and you can't 737 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,479 Speaker 1: give that to them. Ever. That's what Brady does, right. 738 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: Brady is like the mister untouchable. Even when I said, 739 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: even when you've got him dead to rights and it 740 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: should be a kill shot, you're gonna come away unsatisfied 741 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:06,959 Speaker 1: with the hit you get because he's not giving you much, 742 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: no question at all, um, before we get out of here, 743 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,720 Speaker 1: because I do actually already we're I know your stink. 744 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: We're a little short today, but we just qualified for 745 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and you're cutting it short. We're on 746 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: assignment and the studio was occupied, so we had to 747 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: kind of a little bit. Where are you headed? I 748 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: am headed to? What's so important? You have to leave 749 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: less sea? Okay, shut up now, Yeah, he's gonna he's 750 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 1: gonna be talking to the media at news and so 751 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,760 Speaker 1: I gotta get out of here in a few minutes. 752 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: But I do just want to talk a little bit 753 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: about early impressions of the Patriots, and we've sort of 754 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: been oh boy, talking about that the last few minutes. 755 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: But I I think that it's so interesting. You know 756 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: how things sometimes come full circle? Oh yeah, the storylines, right, yeah, yeah, 757 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: we won the Super Bowl in Atlanta, you lost one 758 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 1: in New Orleans by hook or by crook, to the 759 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: Patriots started their run, and now you face the Patriots 760 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: in Atlanta, yeah at what could be the end of 761 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 1: their run and the start of yours. Right, Yeah, I know. 762 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: Belichick has more Super Bowl championships than any other coach, 763 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 1: and Sean McVay is considered the next If anybody's going 764 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,919 Speaker 1: to catch him, catch what Belichick has done, you're gonna 765 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: have to start at a young age. So you might 766 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: be looking at the guy that's going to replace Belichick someday, 767 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: or at least chase him down or try to. There's 768 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,439 Speaker 1: a lot of storylines in this game, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, 769 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: fun stuff. It's exciting. It's really exciting. And I think 770 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: when you're going against somebody like Brady, who you know, 771 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: I have been watching since I was a kid, and 772 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: I asked John Johnson this, like, you know you've been 773 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 1: what is it like to now? No, You're going to 774 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 1: face Tom Brady in a Super Bowl right as he's 775 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: going for a six one, and John Johnson was like, 776 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,479 Speaker 1: you know, it's crazy because you grow up you watch 777 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. You know all the stories. You know what 778 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: he's done and what he said though, and I think 779 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: that this is true. You know he said he's beatable, though. 780 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 1: You know they all are exactly, yeah, just like you are, 781 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,839 Speaker 1: right exactly. You know, they put on their shoes one 782 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 1: at a time, they go to the restroom and have 783 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,919 Speaker 1: to wipe their rear end Like, yeah, you know that's true. 784 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: But when he gets on the field, he is very, 785 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: very good and sometimes better than you. Yes, yeah, you're 786 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 1: gonna have to raise your game, everybody. I mean, you 787 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: are playing the gold standard, no question, no question, at 788 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 1: the number one spot. He is the guy. So you know, 789 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: everyone has that moment. I hope everyone does if you 790 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,800 Speaker 1: stay in it long enough. I had posters of Joe Montana, 791 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: John Elway, Dan Marino, Marcus Allen in my room as 792 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: a kid, and then one day in Kansas City, I 793 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: look up and there's Joe Montana barking signals at me, 794 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,879 Speaker 1: and it's like, wow, here I am. But yeah, you're 795 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: gonna have to deal with these sort of things. Boxers 796 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: do it all the time. Man, Mike Tyson hated to 797 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: knock out Larry Holmes, but you had to. It's your job. Yeah, 798 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 1: you have to. That's just the way it goes, right. 799 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: And so when you have that, and you have the 800 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: Patriots and they've done what they've done over the basically 801 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 1: the last twenty years, this is unprecedented dominance in the NFL, especially, 802 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: you know, with the salary cap, with the way that 803 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 1: this sport really is designed so that you have different 804 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 1: champions every year, every couple of years. Yes, it is 805 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: designed for parody. And you see that in the NFC, right, 806 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 1: you know you keep seeing these different teams come up ones. 807 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: This one's that you're thinking about the last four teams 808 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: that have come out of the NFC. Now you know 809 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: you've got or you can go back to five, you know, Seattle, Atlanta, Carolina, 810 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: not necessarily in this order, but the Eagles and now 811 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,360 Speaker 1: the Rams. Right, it changes every year, it's right, Yeah, yeah, exactly. 812 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 1: And so to have the Patriots and to have what 813 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: they've done since starting, you know in two thousand and 814 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,280 Speaker 1: one when they got there and when they beat the Rams, 815 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: this is amazing. Yeah, the Chicago Bulls fell apart towards 816 00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 1: the end, not because they got old, because it just 817 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 1: had to like enough was enough. It just blew up 818 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: from the inside. Well, the Patriots, you know, just look 819 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,919 Speaker 1: at their media guide and just read Robert Kraft read 820 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 1: about what was what the Patriots were before him and 821 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: what they are with him now. So you know, he 822 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 1: had a goal in mind, and they're firing on all 823 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 1: cylinders still. So you know, it's funny you say that 824 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,879 Speaker 1: this might be the easier draw in the Super Bowl 825 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: because it's not Kansas City. You don't have to deal 826 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: with Mahomes, you don't have to deal with Tyreek Hill 827 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,879 Speaker 1: and all this sort of stuff, right, yeah, yeah, yeah. 828 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 1: If you avoid them, you just happen to get probably 829 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: the best head coach quarterback combo ever. Yeah, yeah, that's 830 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 1: your consolation for skipping the Kansas City Chiefs is them. 831 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 1: So I'll say this, there was no easy draw coming 832 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,439 Speaker 1: out of the AFC. Of course, not if you want 833 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: to be a champion. It was gonna be a tough, 834 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: tough draw no matter what I mean. This is the thing. 835 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 1: You can't say that there's a matchup you want, you know, 836 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: in air quotes whatever. At this point. These are the 837 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: last two teams in the NFL this year. Right, They're good. 838 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 1: Both of them are very good. No one's played more 839 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: football this year than these two teams. Yeah, they're going 840 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 1: to be better than everyone else and everything you get, 841 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: they're gonna know and vice versa. Right, and so's that's 842 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 1: going to be the interesting thing. I mean, can the 843 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 1: Rams come up with something that will be effective against 844 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: the Patriots? How will Todd Gurley be utilized? I mean 845 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 1: that's something that we didn't necessarily get to you in 846 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 1: this episode because of the time constraints. But you know, 847 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 1: when Gurley has what five touches for thirteen total yards, 848 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,879 Speaker 1: that's weird. Yeah, and the fact that you could still 849 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 1: beat the Saints with that kind of production from Todd Gurley. 850 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 1: If you had told me last week at this time 851 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: that Todd Gurley would have five touches for thirteen yards, 852 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 1: I would have said, well, the Rams are probably gonna 853 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 1: get blown out. True, But I smile. Why do I smile? 854 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 1: Because he only had five touches in the NFC Championship game. 855 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,280 Speaker 1: That's more rest, yep, And he gets two weeks before 856 00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 1: his next game more rest. So there's no way on 857 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 1: this planet. He's only going to get five touches in Atlanta, 858 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 1: absolutely not. Yeah, it expects five times as many touches. 859 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 1: I think that that's probably fair, and I think that 860 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,360 Speaker 1: it's interesting because what do we know about Bill Belichick. 861 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,879 Speaker 1: He wants to take away what you do best, right 862 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 1: so or make it difficult for you to get to 863 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 1: get to the things you want to get to. Now, 864 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: you can have the guys in the right spot. But 865 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:27,360 Speaker 1: if Todd Gurley, Robert Woods, Jared Goff, Aaron Donald and 866 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 1: Domickinsue decide that I'm just not going to be stopped 867 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 1: or blocked today, there's nothing Belichick can do about it. 868 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 1: Belichick did call Aaron Donald pretty much unblockable yesterday on 869 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 1: a conference call with New England Media. Saw that from 870 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 1: a couple of reporters. So it same with Gronk too. 871 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,280 Speaker 1: If Gronk decides he doesn't want to be covered today, 872 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 1: then I just have to do. That's what I'm It's 873 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 1: special on both sides, So we'll see what happens. We 874 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 1: will see what happens, and guys, we will have plenty 875 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: more coverage leading up to Super Bowl fifty three, both 876 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 1: from here in Los Angeles and then in Atlanta, I'm 877 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 1: gonna be there starting Sunday line with the team DeMarco. 878 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 1: You will be there Thursday, So between me, DeMarco, JB Serena, Yes, 879 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,799 Speaker 1: we will have you all covered. So keep it locked 880 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,800 Speaker 1: to the rams dot com for that and all the 881 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 1: latest news and updates on your LA Rams have great 882 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: one everybody