1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: The Nicky Glizer podcast. Glaser. Here's Nikki. Hello here, I 2 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: am welcome to the show. It's a Nick Klaser podcast. 3 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: I am in a hotel room in Los Angeles. I 4 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: have nothing going on in my life right now. I 5 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: was thinking, I went to go journal this morning, nothing 6 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: that is like of note, and I was like trying 7 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: to come up with some stuff to talk about today. 8 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: I was journaling. I have been journaling every day, which 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: is good. 10 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: I like have been having pretty good dreams and I've 11 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: been writing them down and stuff, and no one wants 12 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: to hear that fucking shit, not even my therapist. I 13 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: was starting to like talk about my dreams two days 14 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: ago when I saw her and I could tell she 15 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: was just like, even I'm bored with this, and I 16 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: know what they mean, you know, like it was just 17 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: falling off of roller coasters. 18 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 3: Oh, we got to stop with the dreams. I think. 19 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: I'm right, Yeah, I don't want to. 20 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,639 Speaker 3: There's some symbolism to them, but like I mean, it's 21 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 3: a it's a trope in the this and up comedy 22 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 3: world that's like a million comedians with the joke or 23 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 3: even in sitcoms, but like one that no one wants 24 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 3: to hear your dreams. It's not interesting at all. There's 25 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 3: only one time that dreams are interesting to the other person, 26 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 3: and that is. 27 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 2: They're sex or you're in it. 28 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 3: If you're in it, I don't think if there's it's 29 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 3: like vacation photos. 30 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: It's it's like someone some comedian or maybe it was like, uh, 31 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: I think it might have been Dennis on Always Sonny said, 32 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: dreams are like people's photos. I don't want to see 33 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: it unless there's sex or I'm in them. Yeah, I 34 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: don't hear about you know, something like that. It was like, oh, 35 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: that's a good annoualog. 36 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 3: Because they're such bullshit. They're always just you know, there's 37 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 3: no rules. It's like, oh, I saw this thing, and 38 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 3: then my aunt was there, and then all of a sudden, 39 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 3: I was in Topeka, and it's like who there's no. 40 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: Way to describe them. It's like an acid trip. It 41 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: doesn't sound interesting to anyone else who like. That's the 42 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: same way I feel about people doing psychedelics and telling 43 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: me about that experience, even though I do ask, and 44 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: I did, like I was talking to some about it. 45 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: I saw a clip of Theo Vaughn the other night, 46 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: you know, like YouTube just serves up what you need. 47 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: And it was like, THEO Von describes the difference between 48 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: DMT and ayahuasca, and he said that DMT is like 49 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: being buried in a pinball machine that's like on and 50 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: it's just going on and you're inside it, man, and 51 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: it's like a double baller or what. I don't know 52 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: how you eat out the talks and then he said, 53 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: but ayahuasca was like your heart farts. He was like 54 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: it really, it's if you don't if you want to 55 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: ever know the difference between those two or have any 56 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: one like you just want to know what that it's like. 57 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: It was a very elucidating, you know, description of both 58 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: of the things to me, because I've always gotten them confused. 59 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 1: I know I'll never do DMTA. Neil Brand told me, Yeah, oh, 60 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 1: THEO is one of the best people to just talk 61 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: about anything. I mean, he's one of my favorite people 62 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: to just look up clips and just hear him talk. 63 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: He's he's one of the best talkers that will ever exist. 64 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: And but I was just thinking about dreams. I recall 65 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: my favorite Mitch Hedberg joke. One of my favorites is 66 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 1: like man dreams, you know, I'm paraphrasing, dreams are like bullshit, 67 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: man like you could do anything, He's like, But most 68 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: of the time it's just like I'm building a shed 69 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: with my landlord. You could do anything. 70 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 4: My dreams are just like and then I'm packing my shampoo, and. 71 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: Packing is a crazy one for me. I pack a 72 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: lot in dreams anyway, So let's not talk about dreams anyway. 73 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: Been journaling a lot, didn't I have nothing to talk about, 74 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna. 75 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: Throw it to you, guys, what any. 76 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 4: And then you're like, I have nothing? 77 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: No, I well, I had something. I always have something 78 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: if I talk enough. But I really want to pitch 79 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: it to you guys with like, what do you have? 80 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: Major update? 81 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 3: Major update that I'm sure the best of these are 82 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 3: all curious to hear, and that is that the the 83 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 3: old Rag. 84 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's somewhere you're going to say. 85 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 3: That the old Rag has been delivered to Nikki. 86 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 2: There's many stains on it. 87 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 3: I told you it was not a good rat. 88 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: I thought it was old. I didn't know it would have. 89 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 4: A microfiber from your glasses. 90 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 2: Case microfibers of murder scenes on it. Like it's like 91 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 2: it looks like a lot. 92 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 4: It's vintage for it. 93 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 2: I liked it. It says eye people. 94 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 3: Or something on it, an old eye care professional, and. 95 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: It's a great gift. 96 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 3: Look, there's a twist. 97 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 4: How does that feel to part with it? 98 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: Is there a twist? 99 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 3: I didn't even know I had it, so it feels nothing. 100 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 3: I feel like someone. 101 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: Explained that he got it out of the waste basket 102 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: after you all take that. 103 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 4: Oh, I thought it was in a special zip lock 104 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 4: that he carries around. 105 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: No, it was like in a it was he threw 106 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: it out on the show. 107 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 3: There's a twist. 108 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: What's the twist? 109 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 3: Oh? 110 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: No, you need it back, there will still open. 111 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 5: No. 112 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 3: I went back into my bag. It was much deeper 113 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 3: than I had originally realized, and I found a another 114 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 3: old rag from the same place I had that. 115 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 2: Little better stiff. 116 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 3: It's not stiff, it's no very few stains. Do you 117 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 3: want to ski? 118 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: Yeah? 119 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: I want I want that. 120 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 3: I don't know what these stains are. They're like black. 121 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 3: I don't know what that could because I use these 122 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 3: for my glasses. 123 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: Can't believe you still have this stuff. 124 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: And I can't believe that you went further through that bag, Like, 125 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 1: do you have that much time on your hand. I 126 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: don't think you do. 127 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 3: No, I don't, but you don't. 128 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: Man. 129 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 3: I'll always make time for my rag bag. 130 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: Brian's been going to like he's he's got a lot 131 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: going on. He got a new mattress, which is like 132 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: the dreams of It's like, I want to hear about 133 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: this just as much I want to hear about people's dams. 134 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: But it actually is interesting because buying a mattress is 135 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: such a fucking arduous process. 136 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 2: And uh, you got a Temperpedick. 137 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 3: Yes, right now behind me is a temper Pedick Breeze 138 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 3: lux medium. And I got to say, anyone out there, 139 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 3: any of the besties, please help me. I need your 140 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 3: help because I got this temper pedic mattress. It costs 141 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 3: like six thousand dollars. And I know that there's a 142 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 3: break in period. I know that, but I just don't 143 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 3: trust that there it's gonna work. Because I'm sitting there 144 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 3: raising your hand. It's much firmer than I thought it 145 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 3: was going to be. And I wanted I want to 146 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 3: sink in, and it's not sinking in at all. 147 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 6: Brian, I understand your pain. We had the same exact thing. 148 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 6: We spent like the most amount of money that we 149 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 6: have ever spent on a piece of furniture. But it 150 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 6: became worth it. You just have to wait. It'll take 151 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 6: like four months, no unfortunate months. 152 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 3: That's past the return and I can't not sleep for 153 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 3: four months. 154 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: That's past. 155 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 6: It works, It works, and it will It'll be a 156 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 6: game changers super mattress. 157 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 2: Yes, ours is a temporari. 158 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: You didn't tell you by the hybrid kind? Or did 159 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: you buy the like it's gonna let me sink into 160 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: it kind of because Brian what he wanted out of 161 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: the temper Sepedic is that it forms to his body. 162 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,119 Speaker 1: But when he went to the showroom, he was talked 163 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: into a hybrid of the four to your body and 164 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: the spring. And then he gets out of there and 165 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: he gets the hybrid, and now it's arrived and he goes, 166 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: why didn't I just get the thing that I wanted, 167 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: which is like it just forms to your body. 168 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 2: So which one did you get? 169 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 6: Noah, I cannot remember. I think we may have gotten 170 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 6: the hybrid. I can get back to you. 171 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: Saw this is. 172 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 3: What this is also the problem with mattresses. I've asked 173 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 3: almost every single person in my life, what kind of 174 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 3: mattrees they got, and either it's like Nicky's answer is like, 175 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 3: I have a shitty mattress. I don't give a shit 176 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 3: about it. I want a new one, and so that's 177 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 3: not very helpful, or it's or it's I have a 178 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 3: great mattress. I love it. It's the best mattress in 179 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 3: the world. What kind is it? Oh, I don't I 180 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 3: don't remember. I guess I'll look it up and then 181 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 3: I look up the receipt and it's just, oh, I 182 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 3: found the receipt. But it just says, uh, you know, 183 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 3: it just says like mattress good. And it's like, well, 184 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 3: what the fuck is that? Is it medium? Is it firm? 185 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 3: Is the spring? 186 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: It's medium? It's medium. I know that's for sure. 187 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 6: I just don't know which design it is, uh like 188 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 6: a year ago or something, or you just. 189 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: Is like disenchanted with it at first, and like what 190 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: a waste of money? And did you both have a 191 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: night four months and where we were like it's working, 192 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: like I mean time and I love. 193 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, we have just like aggressive sex on it to 194 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 6: break it in. But before that, yeah, I was really 195 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 6: worried because it was so we were dropping like so 196 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 6: much money on it, and for my whole life. 197 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: I heard temper Pedic is the one. It's the best. 198 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 6: And then when we finally after getting it delivered and 199 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 6: it was a commitment to put it in the house, 200 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 6: we got the little platform and everything, and we were 201 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 6: just like, this is a lot more firm than I 202 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 6: remember at the store. And then I had like when 203 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 6: I checked, it was exactly medium firmness, and I was 204 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 6: just like, we're gonna have to return this and go 205 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 6: through the whole process. And I was really like just 206 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 6: so agitated over that. But right like as it got 207 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 6: to like the four or five month period, all of 208 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 6: a sudden, I was like, this, this mattress is so comfortable, 209 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 6: we're not. 210 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 4: Is it just because your will has been broken down? 211 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 4: Or does something happen in the biochemistry of the mattress. 212 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 6: I have been sleeping on a shitty mattress because I'm 213 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 6: at my dad's house, and my back and my neck 214 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 6: aren't so much pain, like pain that I don't feel 215 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 6: anymore because I sleep. 216 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 3: How many days have you been sleeping on your dad's mattress? 217 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: I've been here for the three months, twenty. 218 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 3: Three days, twenty that's enough. To get used to it. Wow, yeah, 219 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 3: shitty mattress. You can't. You can't get it. 220 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 4: It might be your pillow. I had a temperpedic pillow 221 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 4: which I got addicted to, and then I just gave 222 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 4: it to Matt because he had a really bad neck. 223 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 5: Once. 224 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm might mat next, fine, now take this, 225 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 4: And now I'm like, is that a scam? A temperpedic pillow? 226 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 4: And I think I'm fine. 227 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 3: I don't know. I think the pillows are really expensive, 228 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 3: and there's a million different types, and so far I've 229 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 3: tried almost every one of them, and I'm not sold 230 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 3: on the pillows. I'm not sold on the mattress. I 231 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 3: don't know. I think. I mean. I wrote an episode 232 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 3: of Adam Ruin's Everything on mattress where we literally said, yeah, 233 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 3: I wrote a whole episode on mattresses where we literally 234 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 3: get you. Then, I don't know, that's what I'm saying. 235 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 3: I literally said in this. I wrote this on a 236 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 3: script and it was said on television, do not spend 237 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 3: thousands of dollars on a mattress. It's a scam. I 238 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 3: wrote that, and then I went ahead and I spent 239 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 3: thousands of dollars on the line. 240 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: Did you write that? What was your finding? Will you 241 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: like tell us what the gist of the episode was 242 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: and why that that's true and what you should do 243 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: instead of spending thousands of dollars. 244 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 3: Studies have shown that there is very little difference in 245 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 3: customer satisfaction between after you reach a certain threshold in mattresses. 246 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 3: So like you don't want to buy like a five 247 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 3: hundred dollars mattress, like the mattress no was probably sleeping on, 248 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 3: But once you pass like a thousand dollars, there is 249 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 3: no difference in customer satisfaction between a one thousand dollars 250 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 3: mattress and a ten thousand dollars mattress. It's like it's 251 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 3: like you know that thing where you make a certain 252 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 3: amount of money. Yeah, once you pass that threshold, it 253 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 3: doesn't matter if you make two hundred thousand dollars or 254 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 3: four hundred thousand dollars, it's like all the same. Well, 255 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 3: that's how it is with mattresses, and a lot of 256 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 3: the materials that are in mattresses are made by the 257 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 3: same three companies. You know. That's like the coils with eyeglasses. 258 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's basically like canned good canned tomatoes, like 259 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 4: I told you guys. 260 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 2: Coming from the same factory. 261 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 1: It's just the label or like a hallal meat, oh exactly. 262 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 3: And you know the meat that's spinning and you're like, well, 263 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 3: that doesn't look like real meat. Guess what, it's not 264 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 3: real meat. It's mostly sawdust and breadcrumbs. You freaks. You're 265 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 3: eating a bunch of shit, all right, Well the mattress. 266 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: The other day it's vegan, is eat that meat now? 267 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 3: And then also there's like a bunch of shady practices 268 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 3: at the. 269 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: Mattresses, go against everything you know, and wrote like what 270 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 1: have you explored? 271 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 3: Like what made you I'm desolate? 272 00:11:59,240 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: Pain? 273 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, well that the pain is a great motivator. And 274 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 3: I was grinding and clenching my teeth at night and 275 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,839 Speaker 3: destroying my teeth, and I learned that I have to 276 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 3: sleep on my back in order to not do it 277 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 3: as much. And the mattress I used to have, which 278 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 3: also cost five thousand dollars, was too firm. It was 279 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 3: way too firm. I couldn't sleep on my back and 280 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 3: too many pressure points. So I slept in an airbnb 281 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 3: where there was a memory foam mattress, and I slept 282 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 3: all night on my back, and I was like, I 283 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 3: think I need a memory foam, so I you know, 284 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 3: even though get that exact one, well, I thought about it. 285 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 3: We contacted the airbnb owner and they said, of course 286 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 3: you did. Yeah, and they said I was like, this 287 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 3: was this was It wasn't the best mattress I've ever 288 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 3: slept in, but it was good enough. And they said 289 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 3: it was a six hundred dollars mattress from Wayfair. It 290 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 3: didn't even have a. 291 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: Name, right, yeah, so you weren't able to find the model. 292 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 3: No I was, but I was like, Okay, yes, that 293 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 3: mattress was. 294 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: Good, that's not past one thousand dollars point that you 295 00:12:58,679 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: need to feel good. 296 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 3: And also that mattress is probably not going to last 297 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 3: very long. It's probably going to be like sagging after 298 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 3: a year. And then like I don't want to go 299 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 3: through this again. So at least was like, let me 300 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 3: go find a memory phone mattress. That's why I did it. 301 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 3: And then I just went to the store and I'll 302 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 3: tell you what those I mean. They have all these 303 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 3: things in place that make you buy the mattress. They 304 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 3: offer three years zero interest financing, they always have a sale, 305 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 3: it's ending tomorrow. They have the mattress salesman who's like, oh, 306 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 3: I'll just leave you alone and let you sleep on it. 307 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 3: And then and then they come back five minutes later 308 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 3: and they're like, how was it? And then they offer 309 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 3: you the ninety day return policy so you can return it. 310 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 3: So it's like, oh, is this even really a purchase? 311 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 3: So then you just walk out of the store all 312 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 3: of a sudden. So you spend six grand on a 313 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 3: mattress and you all wells fargo your life savings and 314 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 3: now you're sleeping on a brick. 315 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 4: May I have a solution and a hopeful anecdote? I'll 316 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 4: tell you the hopeful No, I'll tell you the solution. Okay, No, 317 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 4: I'll tell you the helpful it. Okay, no solution, Yeah, 318 00:13:58,200 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 4: let's do the solution. 319 00:13:59,200 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: Solution. 320 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 4: I was just kidding, ok yeah, pillow top mattress. Just 321 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 4: spend thirty bucks on a pillow top? 322 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: You did it? 323 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 5: Yeah? 324 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: Sorry? 325 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 4: Then should have told that last I wanted Matt mattter 326 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 4: ring shopping for wedding rings and it was annoying, and 327 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 4: we finally he found a company online where they send 328 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 4: you a bunch of ring samples. You try them on, 329 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 4: you figure out your guys. Yeah, and we decided. He 330 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 4: decided on one. I was like, oh, I wasn't I 331 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 4: didn't know I had a preference for rings, but these 332 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 4: were not the specifications I would have decided. I was 333 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 4: thinking round, classic for him. For him, like a bright 334 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 4: He's like, I don't know what to do, babe, which one. 335 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't care, pick one you like, and 336 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 4: then he picks when he likes and I was like, whoa, 337 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 4: I don't think I like that. 338 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: Whatever. 339 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I didn't even know what I liked, but 340 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 4: I realized, I guess I like a classic men's wedding ring, 341 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 4: kind of bright, like shinier gold, which is not what 342 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 4: I would think I would like, rounded edges, not super 343 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 4: not super thick, not super thin. Anyway, he picks like 344 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 4: a matte pale gold. It's like, not shiny at all, 345 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 4: and it's a little thinner than I'm used to it, 346 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 4: and it's got square edges, so it looks like a 347 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 4: little more industrial. I was like, I don't know if 348 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 4: I like that. It's kind of nineties or something. Anyway, 349 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 4: I don't I don't say what I want because I'm 350 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 4: like I don't even know what I want. Just let 351 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 4: this guy choose. It's his fucking ring. And then it 352 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 4: comes and he's wearing it, and I was just like, 353 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 4: I think I hate it, but in my head, he 354 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 4: doesn't even know this. For two days, I'm like, I 355 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 4: think I fucking hate it. And I know there's a 356 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 4: return period and it's like free exchange or whatever, and 357 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 4: I was just like, should we exchange it? And I 358 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 4: just bit my tongue and now whatever, you know, a 359 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 4: month or two months after we had bought those rings, 360 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 4: I fucking love it. It looks so cool on him. 361 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 4: It looks I'm like, that is the coolest ring I've 362 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 4: ever seen, like every day. I don't know what it is. 363 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 4: I've just gotten used to it, but it just looks. 364 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 4: It's like very Matt. I can't explain it. 365 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: It looks. 366 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 4: It looks cool. So I'm glad I kind of listened 367 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 4: to the tiny, tiny voice in my head that was like, eh, 368 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 4: just let this alone. Try to micromanage this. 369 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: So this is another reason why marriage I don't want 370 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: to do it. 371 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 2: Could I just say here's another thing. 372 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: I can't commit to a ring the rest of my life, 373 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: like a piece of jewelry that I have to wear forever. 374 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 2: And also who cares? 375 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: Like, were you just mad that you were going to 376 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: like see his ring and always just feel like, oh god, 377 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: it's ugly like the rest of your life. Was that 378 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: your fear or that people would think your husband's lame 379 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: if they saw it because he likes it, So what 380 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: does it matter? It's just like I don't. 381 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 4: I'm very much into like how like I get a 382 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 4: lot of joy from the aesthetics of things, So like 383 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 4: I can just stare at my own I don't fucking know, 384 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 4: like a chair that I bought, and just be like, God. 385 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: When you had your nails done, you were like, I 386 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: can't stop looking at them. They still long. 387 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 4: No, no, I cut them off. They're still they're like 388 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 4: growing out. But I chopped them off so I could 389 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 4: play guitar. Right, But the weird plasticky thing, the extension 390 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 4: is still glued on there. 391 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: Right, And then what happens with that? You have to 392 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: have it like removed. I forget. 393 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 4: Eventually I'm going to just have it removed, but I'm 394 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 4: too lazy to go. And right now, it's actually making 395 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 4: the guitar picking sound really cool because they're so thick. 396 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: Oh that's nice. 397 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you feel about your spray tand do 398 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 2: you miss it? Because mine? 399 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 4: I missed it, but I got it strange. First of all, 400 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 4: it did ruin my favorite white pants. I just got these, 401 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 4: and it ruined the bottoms of them. I went to 402 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 4: the foot massage place and they moved my pants up. 403 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 4: They hiked them up to my knees and then you know, 404 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 4: they were lotioning me up and it was hot that 405 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 4: day in New York. And then when they were all done, 406 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, horrified. My spray tand is like there's 407 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 4: a ring around my little white pants And I was. 408 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 1: Like, fuck why I get tons of spray tan on 409 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: towels and like makeup and spray tan, and they are 410 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: always at hotels like they maybe they throw out the 411 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: toels because they're like this is ruined. 412 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 2: Like how do why can't you just bleach things the 413 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 2: way hotels do? 414 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: Why can we not do it? 415 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 4: But this is three three washes later and oh so 416 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 4: I'll just bleach them. It's almost back to normal. But 417 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 4: it was annoying. I missed the spray can though, although 418 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 4: I did develop a weird dot on my leg that 419 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 4: is still there. 420 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: Do you ever get these age spots? Was gone? No, 421 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: I thought it was the plasma because they know they 422 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: like definitely highlight your age spots when you get spray tan. 423 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 4: See that little freckle right there or not. So that 424 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 4: was really dark. And that came like the night after 425 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 4: my spray tan. I woke up with a super dark, dark, 426 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 4: dark thing and it felt like a scab. So I'm like, oh, 427 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 4: it's just spraytn collected in a weird spot, but it's 428 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 4: taken three weeks to go away. Do you ever get those? 429 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: I would never notice that my ba not. 430 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 4: Just a weird dark dot on your leg. 431 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 2: You're you're very self aware. 432 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: I would not know. I mean like, yeah, no, I 433 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: I have people are constantly worried about my spraytan more 434 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: than I am, Like just makeup artists and people are 435 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 1: just like, oh, it's like on the back, it's patch. 436 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, cause I got a spraytan. Like people can 437 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: probably look at me and understand her armpits are gonna 438 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: be white because she got a spray tan and it 439 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: was a shitty one because she doesn't like because people go, 440 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: why don't you get custom ones? Because I just go 441 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: in a booth every single time, no matter what the 442 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 1: level of a thing appearance I'm making. And a booth 443 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: is just like for people who are maybe going to 444 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: a wedding that weekend. They're not in the wedding, but 445 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,719 Speaker 1: you are supposed to get a custom one for like 446 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 1: the real good spraytand but I will not do it. 447 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 4: And do you know why, because you don't want to 448 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 4: wait exactly. 449 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 1: People think it's like it's because you don't want to 450 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 1: be naked in front of someone. It's also a lot 451 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 1: more expensive. It is not any of those things. It's 452 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: because it takes too fucking long. 453 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 3: A booth. 454 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: You go in and it just like sprays you naked 455 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: and it goes down. Yeah, it's a glory. Like you 456 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: go in, you take off all your clothes. I don't 457 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: do any lotion barriers because there's a spray. There's like 458 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,479 Speaker 1: a wet wipe in there that you just afterwards, you 459 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: just wipe all the places that you don't want spray 460 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: tann on. You don't need to do lotion barriers. It's 461 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: stupid And I've been doing these for hundreds of years. 462 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 2: And so you go ends of. 463 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 4: Your hands are a little bit orange. Did you not 464 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:23,719 Speaker 4: do it. 465 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:24,239 Speaker 1: No, they're not. 466 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 2: It's just looking that way, like if I see them 467 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 2: up close, they're not. 468 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 1: They really aren't. My hand is orange. This is orange, 469 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 1: but this I know it looks orange, but it's not. 470 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 1: For some reason what I look at it. 471 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 4: Are you supposed to do your armpits too? I forgot 472 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 4: she had me do it, but I was so self 473 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 4: conscious of black? 474 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 2: But who is seeing your armpits? And who is going 475 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 2: to go? 476 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 4: I would definitely look like who cares? Now they're supposed 477 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 4: to be white. 478 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: Exactly, But like, I just don't get, like, can't people 479 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: just understand that there's gonna be like a little bit 480 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: like there are people with vital igo and everyone's not like, 481 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: oh my god, burn her, you know, like, who gives 482 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: a shit if it's a little spotchy, we're gonna go. 483 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 3: To break What I say that, I don't know. That's 484 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 3: just me though? What burn people? They have spots? Yeah, 485 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 3: I'm just disgusted by everybody. 486 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: So you get naked, you go into a booth, it 487 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: tells you, I mean, depending on the like this is. 488 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: I want every girl to know this because spreetans will 489 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 1: elevate you so much, and everyone's so scared of going 490 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 1: into a spraytan booth. It will not just go to 491 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: a low level, But I always go to the highest 492 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 1: level no matter what, because it's so disappointing when it 493 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: doesn't show up at all, and it will never. 494 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 2: Be so high that you're like, I look insane. At 495 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 2: least for me. There's not enough tan I could be. 496 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: So you go and you press a button, you stand 497 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: like this, then you have one arm like this, Then 498 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 1: you have one arm like this, then you stay from behind, 499 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: and then they do two and then they go drying 500 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: phase and it takes five minutes and then you're dry 501 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: by the time you step out. You maybe like dance 502 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: around a little bit, take a picture for your boyfriend, 503 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: because you will look super tan and super hot and 504 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: the lighting's really low and it looks it's always a 505 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: great time to get like a sex sual and you're 506 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: like kind of wet looking and that's always a good look. 507 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,959 Speaker 1: Send that off to him, validate your existence, and then 508 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: you leave in your fucking hand and it's great. 509 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, you're a pro. That makes sense. If I 510 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 4: had had more than like five spray hands in my life, 511 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 4: i'd booth it up to I'd be like, I got this. 512 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: But why don't you just trust me? Both because it's 513 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: there's nothing that I'm. 514 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 4: Still learning how to, Like, don't. 515 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: Waste that top spray because it starts spraying at your 516 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 1: head for tall people and especially if you're a shorty, 517 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: put your arms up and follow it down and then 518 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: hit the pose where it would be. 519 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 3: As Chris said, she just can't handle the booth. He 520 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 3: said that it was funny. 521 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 4: There's a writer's strike. 522 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 1: You just still you can't handle them. Who did you say? 523 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:45,719 Speaker 1: Said that? 524 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 3: Christ Convey? He said that Chris Conny said it, and 525 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 3: at a very appropriate moment it laughed out loud. 526 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 4: Oh okay, then that makes sense. 527 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 1: God, I miss him. That really made me miss it. 528 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: I feel we don't talk on the phone when we're apart, 529 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 1: so I kind of feel like he is we'll talk 530 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: more about all of this and also. 531 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 2: Less when we get back. 532 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: We're back. I'm guessing that I when Chris said she 533 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: just can't handle the booth, I was talking about a 534 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: spray tand booth. 535 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 3: No, you weren't there. It was we were driving to 536 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 3: the UDO concert and there's that parking lot outside of 537 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 3: the concert venue, and there is a parking attendant lady 538 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 3: in a booth and she was she kind of like 539 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 3: gave us a hard time because Chris was like trying 540 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 3: to park in the special parking spots because you know, 541 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 3: he's like associated with the concert, and they gave us 542 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 3: a hard time. Then we went to go get dinner, 543 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 3: and we came back and I pointed out, Oh, the 544 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 3: parking attendant lady isn't there anymore, and then he goes, 545 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 3: I guess she could just couldn't handle the booth. 546 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 4: That's very clever. 547 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 2: Good, Yeah, that does make me. 548 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: It's good. 549 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 3: Ye, he said. It's so fast too. 550 00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 2: Right, He's very quick. 551 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: I'm very That's why I love listening to his radio 552 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: show because I'm reminded of how fucking fast and funny 553 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: and quick he is in many ways. But he does. 554 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a pun. Some people are nauseated by them. 555 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: But that's a good one. 556 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 3: No, Yeah, people are nauseated by bad punts, you. 557 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: Know, or ones where the person is really proud of themselves. 558 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 2: No, not that hard and then go huh you know 559 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 2: like that, yeah, and you wait. 560 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 4: It is interesting how some comdians' minds you can tell 561 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 4: by hearing their set. They cannot help writing puns. It's 562 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 4: like completely involuntary. It's just how their brains work. Like 563 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 4: Mark Norman's new special Full of Full of Puns. 564 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, did you watch the whole thing? 565 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 4: I've watched half of it, but he's so clever and he. 566 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: Did you get through it all? And there's literally no 567 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: comedian I can get through it all. 568 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 4: I love Mark and luck. He reminds me of like 569 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 4: a funny Grandpa cross and it's weird because he's like 570 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 4: a young, god looking guy, but he's got that grandpa 571 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 4: voice and some of the jokes are very like dirty grandpa, 572 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 4: so it's cute. 573 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: I wanted to write one point five times the speed 574 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 1: lesson I couldn't sleep. I was like, Oh, check out 575 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: Mark's new special Soup to Nuts. It's on Netflix. Mark 576 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,199 Speaker 1: is one of the best, you know, joke writers. And 577 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: but I was listening to him actually on Theo Vonn's 578 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: podcast again. A YouTube clip popped up and he was 579 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: talking about how in THEO was saying man like, I 580 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: was laughing out loud so hard, and it's just it's 581 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: you're the perfect comic to go see on a date, 582 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: because there's you never have to worry if she's having 583 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: a good time because there's no time to ever check 584 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: in on, like is she enjoyed because it's just rapid fire. 585 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: It was something about that and he was like, yeah, 586 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: I hate silence. I hate it. I don't want silence 587 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: up there. And I was like, oh my god, I 588 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: relate to that so much. He's like some comedians can 589 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: just like take their time, like why would you ever 590 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: do that? 591 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 2: Like how could you risk that? And I really liked 592 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 2: hearing something. 593 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: It just feels validated when you hear someone that you 594 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 1: admire say something that you have felt your whole life. 595 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: And yeah, he's he's just a rapid fire and has yeah, 596 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 1: tons of puns, but like, yeah, I got I listen 597 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: to it one point five times of speed, which is 598 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: insane because he already talks so fast. But it's so 599 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: good and I'm I'm just doing it bite sized because 600 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: I was getting kind of sleepy at the time I watched, 601 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: and I want to and I want to finish it 602 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 1: up at some point when I have time. 603 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 3: In my life, because I can't wait to watch that one. 604 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: And so good. It's so good there the title is yeah, 605 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: and I love he you know he always on Conan. 606 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 1: He uh, it was the first time I heard him 607 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: do it on TV. But he's you know, at the 608 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: end of his said, he goes, thanks, I'm Kevin Hart. 609 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: It's just like but they introduced him as Kevin Hart 610 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: on this please give it up for Kevin Hart. 611 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 4: You know you're doing that a long time. I was like, 612 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 4: I haven't heard this. 613 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: It's so good. 614 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:49,959 Speaker 3: There's some comedians who are like really sit in the 615 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 3: silence and they they usually have a stool that they 616 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 3: can actually sit. No, thank you, and I and the industry. 617 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 1: Fucking up these that's the custom spray tan of comedians 618 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 1: like come on, let's let's speed this up. And they 619 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: do love it. You know why because to do that 620 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: you have to be so fucking confident you have to 621 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 1: be a narcissist. People love narcissists. They are It would 622 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: be incredible to be one. Honestly, it's a superpower. It 623 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: really is, like I kind of wish I was. And 624 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about having that narcissistic traits like we 625 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: all diagnose our boyfriends with. This is this is like 626 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: someone who is a pathological just you know, personality disorder. 627 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: They have narcissism, they are a full blown narcissist. 628 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 3: Is that if at any point anything deduces them, not 629 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 3: deduces them, degrades them, or points out a flaw in 630 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 3: any way, they cannot accept that and they will fight 631 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 3: against that in the extreme. Yes, that's the that's the 632 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 3: kind of they cannot admit any type of flaw at all, 633 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 3: and so every time that if they make a mistake, 634 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 3: they'll gas like you that they didn't do it if 635 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 3: they if someone points out a flaw, they will just 636 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 3: decimate them and completely discredit. 637 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 4: Fascinating they they'll do like a whole special maybe about 638 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 4: how they're. 639 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: Not if they are deeply I don't know that Chappelle 640 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: is a narcissist, like at that level. I think he 641 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: is narcissistic traits because I think every comedian kind of 642 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: has to to get up there and be like, you 643 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: should listen to what I'm talking. 644 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 4: Wasn't an original thought. I heard it from one of 645 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 4: his best friends. 646 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: That's hilarious. I mean again, long pauses hours on stage, 647 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: he's he's checking some of the boxes. 648 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 2: But the thing is, narcissist narciss don't even mind to 649 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 2: be called narcissists. 650 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: That's kind of my favorite thing about them because they're like, 651 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: there's they see nothing wrong. Why would they wouldn't take 652 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: that as an insult because they don't have anything wrong 653 00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: with them, so they're like, that's the way to be. 654 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: And also they're impervious to ever changing. It's the only, 655 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: it's one of the only. I can't say it's the 656 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: only because I don't know everything, but I think I 657 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: do the it's it's impervious to You can't fix a 658 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: narcissist because you have to see a fault in yourself 659 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: to be able to go I want to change, and 660 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: they will not do that. 661 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 2: So that's fascinating. 662 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: It would be great to be one because they will 663 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: never struggle because they don't admit to themselves. They can't 664 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: even have the I don't think they have any self 665 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: awareness to ever be sad about what they are because 666 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: they're the best. But it does come ultimately subconsciously from 667 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: a deep fear of insecurity and not being enough. But 668 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,959 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter that it does, and that doesn't make 669 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: you feel better if you're dealing with a narcissist to 670 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: know deep down there said because they're not they actually 671 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: don't feel that subconscious thing at all. 672 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 2: On any level, they are. 673 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: The best, and I just kind of I want to 674 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: be one. I do want to be. There's things I 675 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: want to be, And sometimes I kind of wish I 676 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: was a sociopath or a psycho, or like a narcissist psychopath. 677 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 2: But I think they're like unhappy. 678 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: They're deeply unhappy. 679 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 3: Narcissists do kill themselves. They do kill them Yes, it's 680 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 3: a it's common that a narcissist or a borderline will 681 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 3: kill themselves because if once the mask breaks down, if 682 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 3: at any point somehow you get through that mask, and 683 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 3: all of the tricks and all of the things that 684 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 3: they do to deflect against introspection don't stop working, and 685 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,959 Speaker 3: if any little tiny flaw comes through, they cannot handle it. 686 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 3: They get extremely depressed, angry, violent, even and so like 687 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 3: sometimes like even if it's just like a narcissist gets 688 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 3: a gray hair and it's like something that can't control, 689 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 3: and it's just like there's no denying it. Like sometimes 690 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 3: that that can like eat away at their soul and 691 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 3: until they, you know, can't take it anymore. 692 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 4: I don't worry about this narcissist in your life killing themselves, 693 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 4: because they were all threatening suicide is like, narcissists don't 694 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 4: commit suicide. They talk about it a lot or threaten 695 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 4: it a lot, but they don't, but borderlines do. Maybe 696 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 4: that therapist was wrong, though. I did see him walking 697 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 4: in the street with a paper cup where he disheveled 698 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 4: many years later, and I was like, oh uh, I 699 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 4: think he. 700 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 2: Did so well in life, therapist. 701 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: I think he will listened the street. He was either 702 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: homeless or very near there, and I was like, oh 703 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: my god, I might have had or something. 704 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 705 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 4: He would always be like, don't bother paying me. I 706 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 4: don't know how he paid his rent. There were many 707 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 4: months I saw him and he's like, don't worry about 708 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 4: paying me. I think he just enjoyed spouting off about stuff. Anyway, 709 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 4: he said, narcissists don't kill himself. I don't know. 710 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 3: I mean, I've read a bunch of I've read like 711 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 3: every book there is about narcissists and borderline and personality disorders, 712 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 3: and frequently they say narcissis killed the borderlines killed himselves 713 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 3: do a lot. 714 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 4: My guy didn't know what he was talking about. 715 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 3: Maybe, I mean, maybe it's true. Nobody really knows. I 716 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 3: just want to disclaim, is that these these all these 717 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 3: diagnoses and labels. It's like everybody's different. Even if you're 718 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 3: a narcissist, you might be different than another narcissist. These 719 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 3: are just general things, although I will say that if 720 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 3: you're they frequently exhibit the same behaviors, and like, sometimes 721 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 3: people will be in a relationship with a narcissist or 722 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 3: borderline and I can predict exactly how they're going to 723 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 3: act and what they're going to do in almost every situation. 724 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 3: So I don't know there's something to the diagnosis, but 725 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 3: it's the. 726 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: First thing you hear from someone that's kind of like 727 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: clueless that they're dating someone with borderline that you're like, oh, 728 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: telltale sign. Like has there been moments where you hear 729 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: something and you're like, I just want to inform you 730 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: this might be the case here, someone who might be 731 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: listening that's like dealing with something that they don't even 732 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: know would be the You just know someone like. 733 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 3: You just know it in your gut that they are 734 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 3: lying to you. You just know that they you can't 735 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 3: trust what they're saying. If they're a borderline, then not 736 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 3: only can you you just know in your gut that 737 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 3: they don't actually love you even though that they act 738 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 3: like it, but but you know that in your gut. 739 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 3: But also to a borderline versus a narcissis is like 740 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 3: a borderline will frequently not be able to handle any 741 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 3: discussion about anything that's wrong with the relationship and have 742 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 3: outbursts of mania and also anger, and can frequently switch 743 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 3: from being really amazing to really mean really fast, like 744 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 3: usually cruel for any human being to be. And you're like, 745 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 3: I can't believe you just said that to me. And 746 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 3: then you know, maybe a week later, I either deny 747 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 3: that they said that. They'll say you took it the 748 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 3: wrong way, or they will yeah yeah, or they will 749 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 3: not even remember that they said that. So it's like 750 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 3: stuff like that, but it's true. But here's how you 751 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 3: don't get into that. Here's how you don't get into 752 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 3: that situation. If you get into a relationship and for 753 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 3: the first month you believe this is too good to 754 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,760 Speaker 3: be true. They're just love bombing you. They're doing everything 755 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,359 Speaker 3: you want, there are no problems. It seems like their 756 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 3: personality is like meshing absolutely perfectly with your personality. Guess 757 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 3: what they are doing that on purpose to trick you, 758 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 3: because they don't have a personality, and all they know 759 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 3: how to do is to mimic your personality and give 760 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 3: you exactly what you want so that you accept them. 761 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 3: And once you accept them into your vulnerable heart, they 762 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 3: will turn on you because they can't get too close 763 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 3: to you. 764 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: Well, you know, here's the thing. I got to put 765 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: a little blame on the person that falls for this stuff, 766 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,240 Speaker 1: because and I'm not saying I do. I do everything. 767 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: I do so many things so wrong all the time. 768 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 1: But if someone loves you really soon, and it's just like, 769 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 1: I don't know, there's just something about you. I just 770 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,919 Speaker 1: someone who loves you after knowing you for a week. 771 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 1: Don't you know that they don't know you yet? And 772 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: so they're kind of full of shit. I guess I 773 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: think I'm coming at this from a perspective of I 774 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 1: don't really love myself, so I'm suspicious of anyone who 775 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: does in the first place, even after knowing me a 776 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: long time. So I think my low self esteem has 777 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: kind of protected me from these kinds of freaks, because 778 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 1: I have been love bombed at some points in the 779 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: beginning of things with certain guys, and I'm always like, 780 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 1: where where is this coming from? 781 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 2: Like how do you have this information? 782 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: We have not spoken enough for you to have formed 783 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: this opinion about me yet. And I'll say because I 784 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,879 Speaker 1: remember one guy just saying like, you're so interesting. I've 785 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: been thinking about you NonStop. I love the way your 786 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: mind works. And I'm like, we've texted and DMed a 787 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 1: couple times. There's and I go, are you watching a 788 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 1: special of mine or so? And he's like yeah, and 789 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, maybe I can let that slide. But 790 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: then there were things like I can't wait to have 791 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,839 Speaker 1: I remember one guy was the I've told Brian this. 792 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 1: I was telling the story to some friends of ours, 793 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: but he was the hottest guy. I've one of the 794 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: hottest people I've ever seen in my life. And I 795 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: was like talking to him almost kind of romantically. We're 796 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: feeling it out. And then early on he was like, 797 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: I can't wait to have Sunday snuggles with you. Not 798 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: only does that discuss me on just a I just 799 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 1: don't want to I don't like calling anything that, But 800 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: I also was like, why do you want to snuggle 801 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: with me already? That's a really intimate thing that you do. 802 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: I can understand wanting to fuck me already. I'll let 803 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: that slide. Like, I'm not gonna be total I'd be 804 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: grossed out by someone saying that, but I understand that 805 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 1: fucking really doesn't have to be predicated by like an 806 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 1: intimate connection. But Sunday snuggles. 807 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 2: Sound like you do, and that sounds like something I have. 808 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 1: To maybe start that phrase with you as well, Like 809 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: that sounds like something he made up with another girl 810 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: and is just like, oh, every girl knows about Sunday model. 811 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 1: But I just was like, you don't know me well 812 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 1: enough to want to snuggle me. We've never even met, 813 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: we never have touched, we've never looked each other in 814 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: each other's eyes in person, So why would you want 815 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 1: to do this with me? 816 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,439 Speaker 2: And it turned me off so much? 817 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 4: Wait, but you were down to fuck? 818 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,760 Speaker 1: No, no no. But if he would have said something 819 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: like I can't wait to be in the same room 820 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: as you and like grab you or what like, I 821 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 1: would have understood, like the sexual desire you can want 822 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 1: to Men can want to have sex with anyone without 823 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 1: seeing anything, and so can many women. 824 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 3: What was it anything? 825 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 2: Anything? 826 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 1: Yes? But they but son, I just I don't know. 827 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: And then there was this other guy that was one 828 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: time kind of love bombing me of like you're so 829 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 1: intriguing and like I just can't get you out of 830 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 1: my mind. And we had barely talked, and I said 831 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 1: how many siblings do I have? And he was like what? 832 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 1: And I was like, if you like you seem to 833 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 1: know me so well and be so intrigued, do you 834 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: wanna do you know how many siblings I have? And 835 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 1: he was like, I have no idea, And I was like, 836 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 1: I think you need to know that before you're like 837 00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: desperately yearning for me in this intellectual way or like 838 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: you're talking about like you know me really well, you 839 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 1: don't know even the most banal thing. And then I 840 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,280 Speaker 1: like the dad on. 841 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,280 Speaker 4: Love is Blind season whatever when they were in Seattle, 842 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 4: Remember what's her Name's? Dad was like, how many siblings 843 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 4: does she have? Or that's a great question to know 844 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,839 Speaker 4: if someone knows you. It's just a that's a first 845 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 4: date question that should get out of the way, and 846 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 4: not that you should retain that information on the first date. 847 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 4: Maybe you'll need refreshers. I even with my friends, need 848 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 4: to be like. 849 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 2: How many what sibling are you? 850 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 1: Like it's it's fine, but someone professing how much they're 851 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: into you and how much they're ready to like move forward. 852 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 1: They should know that already, like they should want to 853 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: know those things about you. So anyway, he was like, whoa, 854 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 1: you just schooled me. He was like, you're so right, 855 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 1: that's so good. I'm going to put that in this 856 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 1: script I have because I'm writing about this narcissist who 857 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: all he does is talk about himself, and I needed 858 00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,080 Speaker 1: some turning point where he's revealed to be one. And 859 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,359 Speaker 1: I think it's great if the other character says how 860 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 1: many siblings do I have? And I go, wait, okay, 861 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 1: you still don't know how stublings I have? And you 862 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 1: just took my idea it made your own, And it 863 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: was like it that just like, is there any have 864 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 1: you guys been love bombed early on? And will you 865 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:19,959 Speaker 1: tell me the other side of it where you don't 866 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 1: really care if he knows that stuff about you? Or 867 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 1: maybe they're just so good at acting like they this 868 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 1: is the first time it's happened to them, and they 869 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: it's love at first sight. 870 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,359 Speaker 2: I mean there's arguments for that as well. 871 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I kind of believe in love at first sight, 872 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,320 Speaker 1: so why wouldn't I believe in the idea of someone 873 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 1: loving me immediately. 874 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:40,319 Speaker 4: Well, I'll speak for an early experience. I got to 875 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,359 Speaker 4: San Diego. I didn't know anybody. I was a new 876 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 4: DJ on the radio there. I was twenty five, so 877 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 4: I really had no friends. And then I met this 878 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 4: guy and he was just like he said kind of 879 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 4: all the right shit, like right away. Like And it's 880 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 4: the same thing with people in cults, like how to 881 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 4: intelligent self aware people fall into a cult like so 882 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 4: many It's not like everybody is a ding dong no, 883 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 4: but it's usually you're in a vulnerable point in your life. 884 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 4: It's not like your personality is like the type that 885 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 4: would get into a cult. It's usually a finite moment 886 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 4: in your life that you're either alone, changing jobs, or 887 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 4: in some transitional period. Maybe you're you just had a 888 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 4: breakup or whatever somebody died and you're kind of longing 889 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 4: for something or searching for something. I think I wanted 890 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,919 Speaker 4: connection and friends, and this guy was like, whoa, you 891 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 4: are fine, and which I didn't like at all. But 892 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 4: then he was like, I'm gonna like I want to 893 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 4: be I want to like marry you, and I'm such 894 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 4: a like a romantic that I was like, whoa, maybe 895 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 4: this is it. 896 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,320 Speaker 2: This is the guy I'm not I'm not opposed to that. Actually, 897 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,760 Speaker 2: uh so I guess first. 898 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,839 Speaker 4: Meeting, so I'm being like, I'm going to marry you. 899 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 1: Like just because you hear of the story, because I'm 900 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 1: a romantic too, and you hear the stories of guys 901 00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: being like calling their mom being like I met the 902 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: girl I'm gonna mary tonight, and then it is yes, 903 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 1: little do you know that guy says it about every 904 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 1: single woman he meets, so it's abound to happen once 905 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 1: and the story will pay off, you know. 906 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 4: No, they're red flag, like Brian was listing, when they 907 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,400 Speaker 4: want to hang out with you every day, male or female, 908 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 4: heterosexual you know not or same sex friends whatever. If 909 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 4: someone wants to hang out with you every single day, 910 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:24,280 Speaker 4: they say, it's a red flag. 911 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 1: That was me with you in the beginning. 912 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, but we had dinner every night for like four 913 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 4: nights in a row and it wasn't more. 914 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:36,359 Speaker 1: Me too. 915 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 2: It's like Vulder positions. 916 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 3: Well, well, you can love mom and friendships also, but 917 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 3: like the key, the key is you didn't at some 918 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 3: random point just turn on Anya and start decimating her 919 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:57,839 Speaker 3: entire being being as cruel as humanly possible to destroy her. 920 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I've had that with female friends. One developed 921 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 4: borderline personality as a result of very hard times and 922 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:09,319 Speaker 4: drug addiction, and she was diagnosed with that later. I 923 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 4: don't think you have to be born with it. I 924 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 4: might be wrong. And then the other female friend, I 925 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 4: just didn't know that well and we I think I 926 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,280 Speaker 4: was in another I'd just gotten out of a breakup, 927 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 4: and she was like, very knowledgeable about stuff, much older 928 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 4: than me, kind of took me under her wing. I 929 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 4: had always thought she was very like fascinating, almost like 930 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 4: the Oprah of this one friend community I had. And then, yeah, 931 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 4: she exploded on me one day in such a rage. 932 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 4: But thank god I had sort of what you were 933 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,320 Speaker 4: talking about, Nikki, like this baseline value system that was 934 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,719 Speaker 4: like I'm not no, no, no, no no, Like this 935 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,360 Speaker 4: isn't a match for me. 936 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:48,399 Speaker 5: No. 937 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,799 Speaker 4: It was just like you with the guy being like 938 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 4: I want to be with you, but he doesn't know 939 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 4: your siblings name. I was just like, you don't talk 940 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:56,880 Speaker 4: to me, like no one talks to me like this, 941 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 4: Like I don't have out, I don't have drama on 942 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 4: the street like she did it on the street and 943 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:05,400 Speaker 4: was like, yeah, controlling and it was insane. 944 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:09,399 Speaker 1: Brian, You've read the books. Why do they snap like this? 945 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 1: Is it because of there's like you said, there's something 946 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 1: that happens that they can't control and it breaks their 947 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 1: oh psyche or what They're always trying to get something? 948 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 1: What are you going to get out of screaming at 949 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 1: someone on the street. Why do they snap like? Is 950 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,719 Speaker 1: this a It's going against what they want, which is 951 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,800 Speaker 1: like survival and to like feed off of people. 952 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,840 Speaker 2: It often pushes people away. What would be why do 953 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:33,359 Speaker 2: they do that? 954 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 3: It depends on the situation. So if like you're a 955 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 3: borderline in a relationship and then you spend the first 956 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,840 Speaker 3: several months or even maybe up to like a year, 957 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,399 Speaker 3: I mean, I can't imagine having a year of love 958 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 3: bombing and then having it turned. But they'll be love 959 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,719 Speaker 3: bombing you and love bombing you and love bombing you, 960 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, the borderline will feel 961 00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 3: like they are too close to you and they can't 962 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,360 Speaker 3: be too close. But they also don't want to be 963 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,719 Speaker 3: too far away, so they love bomb ube to get 964 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,320 Speaker 3: in there. They really want to get in there because 965 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,399 Speaker 3: being far away is bad for them, and they don't 966 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 3: want to be alone, that's for sure. And then if 967 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,799 Speaker 3: they get too close, they all of a sudden get 968 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 3: anxiety about being too close and they need to do 969 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,439 Speaker 3: something to push you away. So that's when they'll turn 970 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 3: on you. It's black and white thinking where they'll just 971 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you go from I love you 972 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 3: so much to you're the devil and I hate you 973 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:36,240 Speaker 3: because there's something about being that close that's scary, because 974 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,279 Speaker 3: I mean, if you want to get into like their 975 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,359 Speaker 3: childhood trauma or whatever, it's because when they. 976 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,360 Speaker 2: Have borderlines are made from trauma. 977 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 3: I don't know exactly, but it's definitely you know, some 978 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 3: people say that, Like some people say that like they 979 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,919 Speaker 3: don't nobody knows why. But some people says, yeah, it's 980 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 3: like bunyans. 981 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 1: People say it's hereditary, and I think it's it's always 982 00:44:58,239 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 1: caused by shoes. 983 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Like some people say, like you can become 984 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 3: a narcissistic because you were held too much as a baby, 985 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 3: or you can become a borderline or because you were 986 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,359 Speaker 3: because you weren't held enough as a baby. Yeah, it's 987 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 3: just like but. 988 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:18,360 Speaker 6: It sounds like they're both anxious and avoidant attached. 989 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 3: Yeah soople So people with borderline have dealt with every 990 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 3: time they get close or have a close relationship, they 991 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 3: get hurt, and their whole existence is to avoid that pain. 992 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,239 Speaker 3: At the same time, they probably felt like they didn't 993 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:38,800 Speaker 3: get enough love from people they cared about, like their parents, 994 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 3: and so they that's why they love bomb is because 995 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 3: they try to become the perfect person that will receive 996 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,799 Speaker 3: this love. But then they get scared because they're like, well, 997 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 3: now that I have this love, I'm afraid that I'm 998 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 3: going to get hurt and damage, so I'm gonna push 999 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 3: you away. So then they turn on you, because the 1000 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 3: best way to protect yourself from love is to convince 1001 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 3: yourself I don't love this person anymore. Fact, that person's 1002 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 3: a fucking devil who I hate, who stinks like shit. 1003 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,640 Speaker 3: I would never want to have sex within the rest 1004 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 3: of my life. In fact, if this person died, I'd 1005 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,840 Speaker 3: be happy. Like that's literally what they convinced themselves. 1006 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 2: They have traces of this. 1007 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,880 Speaker 1: I think I don't ever blow up at the person, 1008 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:22,240 Speaker 1: but privately, I when I am, but when I feel 1009 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:26,279 Speaker 1: anger towards someone, it turns into like I want to 1010 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 1: cut it off. I hate them, like I can go 1011 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 1: to hate so fast, and I always talk myself out 1012 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 1: of it, and luckily I don't ever say it to 1013 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,799 Speaker 1: the person because I'm too scared of I always thinking 1014 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,360 Speaker 1: ahead and going like what if I regret this? So 1015 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:44,799 Speaker 1: I never actually put into action these might be like, 1016 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,759 Speaker 1: but I do have intense like I fucking hate them. 1017 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 2: I never want to see them again. They're discussed. 1018 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:55,240 Speaker 1: I say the meanest shit about oh not good guys, 1019 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 1: like about you know, people who are still in my life, 1020 00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 1: and I've said things about the that if they knew 1021 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,080 Speaker 1: that I said that or thought that I'd be gone, 1022 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 1: but I didn't really think that. 1023 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,840 Speaker 2: It was just like my brain got hijacked. 1024 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:07,439 Speaker 1: What do I do? 1025 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 2: Like should I feel bad about it? I can't stop it? 1026 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 3: You're you are you have traits, but you're you're like 1027 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:20,280 Speaker 3: not You're like right outside the door of a personality disorder, 1028 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 3: but you don't have one because you're knocking on the door, 1029 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,000 Speaker 3: and like you know, obviously part of having one, it's 1030 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:29,920 Speaker 3: fun to have one, because you it's like you're a 1031 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 3: fuck when you if you get into a relationship with 1032 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,360 Speaker 3: someone with a personality disorder and you're in one for 1033 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 3: a really long time. You get what they call fleas, 1034 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,879 Speaker 3: which is you start to adapt the traits of someone 1035 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 3: with the personality disorder. And I did that after I 1036 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,759 Speaker 3: got out of a relationship with a borderline, and I 1037 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,920 Speaker 3: was a fuck. That was part of why I was 1038 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 3: I got so good at dating was because like I 1039 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,440 Speaker 3: just I just knew all I could do all the 1040 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 3: tricks that the borderline did. 1041 00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 4: But like this is so true. 1042 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 3: You may have fleas, Please, you might have fleas, but 1043 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 3: I don't think you have a personal disorder, because you're 1044 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 3: far too empathetic and introspective. Like those two things do 1045 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 3: not combine with Borderlines will go to therapy, but they 1046 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,400 Speaker 3: won't change. They'll go to therapy just to affirm and 1047 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,800 Speaker 3: to build themselves up. I don't think. I mean, yes, Look, 1048 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,879 Speaker 3: I want to just clarify I'm speaking about borderlines right now, 1049 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 3: like they're animals, and they're not animals. There are plenty 1050 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,480 Speaker 3: of borderlines who have been to therapy and are willing 1051 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:35,280 Speaker 3: to change. And I know borderlines who like are are 1052 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 3: absolutely amazing people. But in order to do that, you 1053 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,440 Speaker 3: need to go to therapy. You need to accept therapy. 1054 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,319 Speaker 3: You need to be like diagnosed as a borderline and 1055 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:53,320 Speaker 3: then to change and then do basically right neurolinguistic programming. 1056 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,400 Speaker 3: You need to you need to look at you need 1057 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,600 Speaker 3: to do behavioral cognitive therapy where you go like, okay, 1058 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,920 Speaker 3: every thing am I being is telling me that I 1059 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,359 Speaker 3: should turn on this person and hate them, And then 1060 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,520 Speaker 3: you need to train yourself to be like that's not right, 1061 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,359 Speaker 3: even though that's exactly what I want to do. I 1062 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,719 Speaker 3: need I need to know that that's not how like 1063 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,239 Speaker 3: a standard brain works or how it or a good thing, 1064 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:21,879 Speaker 3: and fight against that until eventually you can train your 1065 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,600 Speaker 3: brain to not be borderline anymore. And I've seen I've 1066 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:26,400 Speaker 3: seen it happen. 1067 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:27,920 Speaker 1: Where it's like people can pick it up. You could 1068 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:28,879 Speaker 1: probably drop it off. 1069 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can drop it out if it's much harder 1070 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,520 Speaker 3: if you were born with this, and like it's a 1071 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 3: trauma that is intrinsic into your the core of your 1072 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,280 Speaker 3: like brain stem that like that's really hard, but it's possible. 1073 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,080 Speaker 3: And just because you're diagnosed with borderline does not mean 1074 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:43,799 Speaker 3: you can't change. 1075 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,600 Speaker 1: And can I say something ameliorate those things? I love 1076 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 1: the word amelia or it's a beautiful thing for a 1077 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,200 Speaker 1: little mora and my daughter that yeah. By the way, 1078 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:54,440 Speaker 1: can I. 1079 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,880 Speaker 4: Also just quickly say I had a song in this 1080 00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 4: film called Borderline the film and it's an excellent docum 1081 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 4: menory directed by Rebby Rattner, and you you should check 1082 00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:05,239 Speaker 4: it out. It's really really good. 1083 00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:06,560 Speaker 1: Border Way, why did you say that name? 1084 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,040 Speaker 2: Like anyone would know how to spell it? 1085 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:08,560 Speaker 1: Rebby? 1086 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:11,319 Speaker 4: Rebby? 1087 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:12,000 Speaker 1: How do you spell that? 1088 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 4: Uh Ari? 1089 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:15,440 Speaker 1: Bb I E? 1090 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,600 Speaker 4: I think all right, anyway, it's it's good and it 1091 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,879 Speaker 4: follows a borderline around or a couple of them, and 1092 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,840 Speaker 4: it's so interesting in their therapy sessions and everything, so 1093 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:26,920 Speaker 4: you can learn more about oh. 1094 00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:31,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, this is all like so fascinating. 1095 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,200 Speaker 1: What I was gleaming onto about what Brian was saying 1096 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 1: is that you have to want to change, or that 1097 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:37,680 Speaker 1: you have to be like I don't want to be 1098 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:42,200 Speaker 1: this way anymore I was listening to. I'll just say 1099 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,800 Speaker 1: this vaguely if anyone wants to bite about someone saying 1100 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,560 Speaker 1: recently in my life that they notice things about themselves, 1101 00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,960 Speaker 1: like their behavior. I don't relate to feeling out of 1102 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,920 Speaker 1: control with the way I'm reacting to something, I guess, 1103 00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:59,839 Speaker 1: and you might be like, yes, you do Nikey all 1104 00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,279 Speaker 1: the so maybe enlighten me if I'm if I'm wrong 1105 00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,520 Speaker 1: about this, I've never felt frustrated like I hate the 1106 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,239 Speaker 1: way I am and the things I like and the 1107 00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,319 Speaker 1: things I don't like and the level of talent I 1108 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,520 Speaker 1: have I fucking hate and I wish all the time 1109 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,680 Speaker 1: I could be different in that way, Like I wish 1110 00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,279 Speaker 1: I liked hiking, I wish I liked I wish I 1111 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,640 Speaker 1: worked harder, like all those things. But I'm never like, 1112 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,399 Speaker 1: I'm so mad that I cried about this thing. I'm 1113 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,600 Speaker 1: so And yes I've said before like I wish I 1114 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:28,359 Speaker 1: could cry more, but it's I've never been mad at 1115 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,319 Speaker 1: my like the way I react to something, And I 1116 00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,719 Speaker 1: feel like I've heard people say they're upset about the 1117 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 1: way that they react and they're like, wish they could 1118 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,400 Speaker 1: react better, And I want to understand that. And is 1119 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,960 Speaker 1: that a narcissis of me to never question the way 1120 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,759 Speaker 1: I act? Like sometimes I'm like, oh, that was a 1121 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,600 Speaker 1: little embarrassing, but I'm not, like, I'm never so insanely 1122 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,360 Speaker 1: frustrated by the way I've reacted. 1123 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:54,680 Speaker 3: So potentially maybe you are. You could just be an 1124 00:51:54,760 --> 00:52:01,919 Speaker 3: extremely high functioning narcissist who has learned how to do 1125 00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:07,680 Speaker 3: certain things to make people believe that you're not so like. 1126 00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,239 Speaker 3: I don't think this is true, but it could be 1127 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:14,719 Speaker 3: that your empathy is not real. It's not real, that 1128 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:21,120 Speaker 3: your empathy is behavioral meat and cheese at night or no, 1129 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,839 Speaker 3: or you're just like I learned that I can get 1130 00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,320 Speaker 3: away with certain things if that I then follow it 1131 00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 3: up with extreme empathy. Or I learned that as long 1132 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:36,960 Speaker 3: as I mimic someone who's introspective, then people won't believe 1133 00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:38,560 Speaker 3: that I have personality. 1134 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,000 Speaker 1: That's what a narcissist would say. It's like, let's change 1135 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,920 Speaker 1: the subject. No, that doesn't anything like me. 1136 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,680 Speaker 6: I think what you're saying is is consistent with like. 1137 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,520 Speaker 6: You let people off the hook, and then you are 1138 00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,279 Speaker 6: also really good at letting yourself off the hook. So 1139 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 6: I think it's just you you. 1140 00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:58,319 Speaker 1: Practice what you preach. Maybe that's it of I'm just 1141 00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,640 Speaker 1: never embarrassed by my like outbursts. 1142 00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,160 Speaker 2: Really, it's it's rare that. 1143 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:07,160 Speaker 1: I mean, there's been there's been times, but I just 1144 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,239 Speaker 1: like it already happens, So what am I gonna do? 1145 00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,200 Speaker 1: It's more about the things I don't do that I 1146 00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:15,160 Speaker 1: am filled with regret and hatred for myself is all 1147 00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,480 Speaker 1: the things I don't say, and the things I and 1148 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,200 Speaker 1: just the things that I don't have, like im I 1149 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,960 Speaker 1: more have, Like I'm more fretting about that. But I've 1150 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,160 Speaker 1: heard even like you guys speak to the fact that like, 1151 00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,520 Speaker 1: why do I let this thing derail me? Or something like, 1152 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,520 Speaker 1: I guess I never and I let things derail me 1153 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,640 Speaker 1: all the time, but I'm never like, what can I 1154 00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,719 Speaker 1: do to not let this derail me? I feel inherently 1155 00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:42,160 Speaker 1: I'm right to be derailed. I am right to hate 1156 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,560 Speaker 1: that I don't have enough talent that Taylor Swift has. 1157 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,320 Speaker 1: Why why wouldn't I be a little upset and angry 1158 00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,480 Speaker 1: that I did not get the lottery in that way 1159 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,600 Speaker 1: that she got the lottery? You know, Like, and I 1160 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,360 Speaker 1: know that's stupid because most people are not going to 1161 00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,200 Speaker 1: hit the lottery. Why spend your whole life being mad 1162 00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,440 Speaker 1: about it? But I know I'm right to be a 1163 00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,880 Speaker 1: little bit jealous that someone else scot this thing that 1164 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,719 Speaker 1: makes your life so much easier in my mind, so 1165 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,240 Speaker 1: I'm never like, why do I I'm mad? I feel 1166 00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:11,160 Speaker 1: that way, and when I tried it, when people try 1167 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,040 Speaker 1: to fix that about me, like except who you are. 1168 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,600 Speaker 1: It's it's going in one ear and out the other, 1169 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:19,400 Speaker 1: because I know that I'm right to feel short changed 1170 00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 1: in many ways. And I know that you're supposed to 1171 00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,680 Speaker 1: focus on what you have and maybe compare yourself to 1172 00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:26,920 Speaker 1: people who don't have those things, and that's supposed to 1173 00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:28,799 Speaker 1: make you feel better. And I do that as well, 1174 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:30,760 Speaker 1: but it doesn't change the fact that I also compare 1175 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,880 Speaker 1: myself to people who just have better bone structure than me, 1176 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,680 Speaker 1: or a better voice or you know whatever can hold 1177 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,200 Speaker 1: a pick properly and strum, which I'll never be able 1178 00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:41,600 Speaker 1: to do relate to. 1179 00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,279 Speaker 4: I know that I'm right, What do you mean? 1180 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,480 Speaker 1: I know that I'm correct in feeling angry that I 1181 00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,239 Speaker 1: wasn't born prettier or whatever it is I'm upset about 1182 00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:55,160 Speaker 1: that day. I know it's stupid. I know that I 1183 00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,920 Speaker 1: know that I'm prettier than other people, and people could 1184 00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,880 Speaker 1: be envious of me because or it could be foolish, 1185 00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,880 Speaker 1: but it's also but it is correct because I want 1186 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,120 Speaker 1: something and they have it, So why wouldn't I be 1187 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,000 Speaker 1: correct in being jealous of that? 1188 00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:14,160 Speaker 4: I don't get that at all at all, really at all. 1189 00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,000 Speaker 4: It's like it doesn't compute, like, how can something be 1190 00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,840 Speaker 4: foolish and correct? Like it cannot be both. 1191 00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:27,000 Speaker 1: I think it can, like I can feel ridiculous that 1192 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,040 Speaker 1: this is my feeling, or I can feel like I 1193 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,320 Speaker 1: know this isn't it's you know, not foolish embarrassing to admit, 1194 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,120 Speaker 1: I guess because I have so many riches and I 1195 00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,359 Speaker 1: was born with so much privilege and all of these things. 1196 00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,239 Speaker 1: So it feels foolish in that way. But it is 1197 00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,319 Speaker 1: also correct that there are people that have it way 1198 00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,920 Speaker 1: better off than me and I should be jealous of them. 1199 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,840 Speaker 4: That is not true. Okay, it is just an opinion 1200 00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:50,040 Speaker 4: but not a fact. 1201 00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,040 Speaker 1: But you gets a fact. 1202 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,600 Speaker 2: See, this is the difference. It is a hundred percent fact. 1203 00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,560 Speaker 4: It's not a fact. It cannot be proven as a fact, 1204 00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:58,000 Speaker 4: can it? 1205 00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:01,240 Speaker 1: What can't be that I'm not the guitar and someone 1206 00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:04,640 Speaker 1: else's more affinity for it, and that I am frustrated by. 1207 00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:08,440 Speaker 4: That that one should be envious of another. 1208 00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:12,880 Speaker 1: I think it is if I want to be a 1209 00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,600 Speaker 1: great guitar player, and that is my biggest goal for 1210 00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,839 Speaker 1: myself ever, is to be able to like strum efficiently, 1211 00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:21,880 Speaker 1: and I do not have the ability to do that 1212 00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,000 Speaker 1: no matter how much I practice, it doesn't get better. 1213 00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,320 Speaker 1: And there are people that just have naturally never struggled 1214 00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,400 Speaker 1: with strumming. It is a fact that I should be 1215 00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,080 Speaker 1: envious of them. No, it's not because it's something I 1216 00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,680 Speaker 1: want on you. No, it's it's it's just you're a feeling. 1217 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:38,759 Speaker 4: You just have this opinion, but it is. 1218 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:43,279 Speaker 3: You have to. 1219 00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:46,640 Speaker 6: Compare it backwards also, because there are people who are 1220 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,200 Speaker 6: worse than you, who can't even play as good as 1221 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:50,160 Speaker 6: you play, right. 1222 00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,239 Speaker 1: And I and yes, I can feel grateful for that, 1223 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:56,000 Speaker 1: but I also at the same time I can still 1224 00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,960 Speaker 1: be pissed off that I don't have this thing and 1225 00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,520 Speaker 1: I am one hundred per sent entitled to that. And 1226 00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:01,919 Speaker 1: no one. 1227 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:06,840 Speaker 4: Feeling is valid. Yes, you're feeling as valid, But saying 1228 00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:10,040 Speaker 4: that one should feel a certain way and that is 1229 00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,040 Speaker 4: a fact is preposterous. 1230 00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,720 Speaker 2: I guess the word should is the key phrase. 1231 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:19,920 Speaker 4: Yes, there are no should. 1232 00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:21,840 Speaker 2: I'm sorry if you're doing the math. 1233 00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:25,480 Speaker 1: This person wants this thing, this other person has this thing, 1234 00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:29,400 Speaker 1: Therefore that person should feel envious of that person. 1235 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,720 Speaker 4: Wow, that person's envy makes sense. 1236 00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,600 Speaker 1: I should go to break And let's not keep talking 1237 00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:37,960 Speaker 1: about this because we're not going to come to an 1238 00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,200 Speaker 1: understanding because I know I'm right, because I'm probably a 1239 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:46,800 Speaker 1: closet narcissist. Yeah, I wish. 1240 00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,560 Speaker 2: All right, we're back, Let's get to Reddit dump. Let's 1241 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:50,320 Speaker 2: do a segment. 1242 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,800 Speaker 3: Can I just say before that that that that conversation 1243 00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:54,960 Speaker 3: was slightly triggering because that I don't want to say 1244 00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 3: slightly triggering, never mind. 1245 00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,440 Speaker 2: I actually like it activating. 1246 00:57:59,480 --> 00:57:59,960 Speaker 1: That's on my. 1247 00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:06,080 Speaker 3: Because a thing that I fought with my one of 1248 00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:07,880 Speaker 3: my exes, the thing that I fought with her about 1249 00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:11,680 Speaker 3: all the time was the fact that just because you 1250 00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:17,720 Speaker 3: feel a certain way doesn't mean that that doesn't change reality. 1251 00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,080 Speaker 3: You know, like yes, and that's that's a sign of 1252 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,720 Speaker 3: borderlines that they always say. Every borderline, and I don't 1253 00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,360 Speaker 3: care who you are, every borderline will say this phrase, 1254 00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:32,520 Speaker 3: I feel things more intensely than the normal person. And 1255 00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:37,520 Speaker 3: because of that, frequently that causes problems because they they 1256 00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:41,240 Speaker 3: do feel this thing, but that doesn't mean it's connected 1257 00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,960 Speaker 3: to anything that actually happened or any sort of reality 1258 00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:47,360 Speaker 3: that's occurring. And so but then what do you do 1259 00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:47,600 Speaker 3: with it? 1260 00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,680 Speaker 1: Because my biggest thing is that people are always like 1261 00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:54,760 Speaker 1: you gotta like validate your feelings and my whole childhood 1262 00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,240 Speaker 1: was no offense, Mom and dad, if you're listening, but 1263 00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,280 Speaker 1: my feelings did not get heard in the way that 1264 00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,200 Speaker 1: I needed that I heard because I had a lot 1265 00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:02,919 Speaker 1: of feelings as a child. There is the things I've 1266 00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,400 Speaker 1: come I've paid thousands of dollars to have this diagnosed. 1267 00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,640 Speaker 1: So it's true, Mom and Dad, I did not have 1268 00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,960 Speaker 1: my feelings met. I was. If I cried about something, 1269 00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:15,080 Speaker 1: it was like, come off it, what are you crying about? 1270 00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,840 Speaker 1: Or if I was angry about something, you this is 1271 00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:23,240 Speaker 1: too much. You are being ridiculous. So now I am 1272 00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:27,160 Speaker 1: been told by therapists, honor your feelings. Your feelings are valid, 1273 00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:31,200 Speaker 1: your feelings are real. So now I'm all fucked up 1274 00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:33,920 Speaker 1: because now I'm trying this is making so much sense 1275 00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:34,160 Speaker 1: to me. 1276 00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:39,280 Speaker 6: Now, So you you just like being like or feeling 1277 00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:43,280 Speaker 6: justified in the way that you feel is how you 1278 00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:44,440 Speaker 6: are protecting yourself. 1279 00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:48,840 Speaker 1: How you're protecting like the child is not heard. Yeah, 1280 00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:50,960 Speaker 1: because like I'm the only one who can believe it. 1281 00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,800 Speaker 1: So I only have me to trust that this is 1282 00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,840 Speaker 1: real anger or real sadness, because no one else will 1283 00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:02,040 Speaker 1: or I didn't have a course of people saying, oh wow, 1284 01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:06,280 Speaker 1: that is sad because it never rarely was whatever I 1285 01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,680 Speaker 1: was crying about and not a reason enough to cry 1286 01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:10,800 Speaker 1: about it. Even into adulthood, I cry about things and 1287 01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:13,560 Speaker 1: was met with what are you crying about? You shouldn't 1288 01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:16,360 Speaker 1: You shouldn't have these emotions, so you have to self soothe, right, 1289 01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,040 Speaker 1: like you were, like double down on, like, yes it is, 1290 01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:21,720 Speaker 1: it is real and I'm the only one who believes 1291 01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,000 Speaker 1: and it does. I don't need your validation because that's 1292 01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:25,560 Speaker 1: the only way that I'm going to even be able 1293 01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,760 Speaker 1: to process this because otherwise I'll trust you and push 1294 01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:28,120 Speaker 1: it down. 1295 01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:31,680 Speaker 5: Still, right, it has to be, and that's really really 1296 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:35,960 Speaker 5: healthy to validate your feelings and be like, this is 1297 01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:41,880 Speaker 5: totally valid no matter how I feel envy, jealousy, anger, rage, sadness. 1298 01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:43,800 Speaker 4: This is a this is a real feeling. 1299 01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:45,840 Speaker 1: How is that different than saying I should feel. 1300 01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:50,400 Speaker 4: This way, because it's like should take that word out 1301 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,960 Speaker 4: of the Vokay, it's just not helpful. So when this 1302 01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:56,240 Speaker 4: this validation thing goes too far, you know, he talks 1303 01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:56,800 Speaker 4: about any. 1304 01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:02,040 Speaker 1: Following instructions I'm doing but a normal human would do so, 1305 01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,760 Speaker 1: which is something I struggle with, is like I'm different, 1306 01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:06,600 Speaker 1: so if I say the word should. 1307 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,400 Speaker 2: It validates to me that I'm not crazy. 1308 01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:18,200 Speaker 4: Okay, let's change should to makes perfect sense. Should is 1309 01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:21,720 Speaker 4: take an action, Nikki, you need to take an act 1310 01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:25,600 Speaker 4: you need or like you should is like God in 1311 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,600 Speaker 4: the air with his finger to be, like, you should 1312 01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,880 Speaker 4: be jealous to be a good person, Like you should 1313 01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:35,840 Speaker 4: be envious, and it's just not helpful to be envious 1314 01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,439 Speaker 4: all the time, like comparison is the thief of joy, 1315 01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:43,000 Speaker 4: right Shakespeare said it, or something so like, hey, mommy, 1316 01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,760 Speaker 4: I feel really envious of Sally because she has more 1317 01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:49,160 Speaker 4: money than I have and we're poor. You should feel 1318 01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:53,680 Speaker 4: envious because wealth is something we all aspire to. That's 1319 01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:58,280 Speaker 4: not helpful. But like, oh, I totally get while you're envious. Yeah, 1320 01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:00,160 Speaker 4: Sally does seem to have a lot of stuff, but 1321 01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:03,200 Speaker 4: you know what we have. Sally's dad left them and 1322 01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:06,120 Speaker 4: they're divorced, and Sally's mom is miserable. But we have 1323 01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,000 Speaker 4: quite a happy family here, and we have a dog, 1324 01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:10,920 Speaker 4: like you know what I mean, she's it's like validate 1325 01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:14,440 Speaker 4: the child's feelings, like, but do not tell them you 1326 01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,560 Speaker 4: should be envious, in fact, because then you're going to 1327 01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:18,520 Speaker 4: spend your whole fuck you should spend your whole life 1328 01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:20,520 Speaker 4: being envious. When you grow up, you're going to see 1329 01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,840 Speaker 4: supermodels that are really skinny. You should want to be 1330 01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:23,640 Speaker 4: skinny like them too. 1331 01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:24,600 Speaker 1: You should have that. 1332 01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,600 Speaker 3: That is a key difference is that you need to 1333 01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:31,240 Speaker 3: You want your feelings validated so that you're not gas lit, 1334 01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:33,200 Speaker 3: so that you're like, I am feeling this way. You 1335 01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,320 Speaker 3: don't want people to say like, you're not feeling this 1336 01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,919 Speaker 3: way or it's wrong to feel this way. You want 1337 01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,920 Speaker 3: someone to say, well, I understand how you could feel 1338 01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,800 Speaker 3: this way, so that your feelings are validated. But the 1339 01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:48,200 Speaker 3: key difference between just validation and what like a borderline 1340 01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:52,200 Speaker 3: does is just because you feel a certain way does 1341 01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:56,400 Speaker 3: not mean that that justifies actions you might take based 1342 01:02:56,440 --> 01:03:01,800 Speaker 3: on those feelings. Those feelings, those feelings might guide you. 1343 01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,680 Speaker 3: You might feel angry at somebody and it's like, I 1344 01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,240 Speaker 3: understand why you feel angry, but that doesn't mean that 1345 01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:12,200 Speaker 3: what they did actually is just it actually should anger you. 1346 01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:14,000 Speaker 3: It's not a should, right. 1347 01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:18,320 Speaker 7: It just reminded me of this joke I was listening 1348 01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,640 Speaker 7: to I'm Like on a Luis K tear right now, 1349 01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,320 Speaker 7: and I think that my favorite joke ever written because 1350 01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:25,920 Speaker 7: is just the perfect mixture of dark and also a 1351 01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,880 Speaker 7: great idea and like you just can't help but laugh 1352 01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:29,400 Speaker 7: about it. 1353 01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:34,479 Speaker 1: Is that if murder were legal, like you, everyone would 1354 01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:36,720 Speaker 1: do it. It would be happening all of the time. The 1355 01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,400 Speaker 1: only reason it's not happening is because it's not legal. 1356 01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:42,439 Speaker 1: And if people didn't murder, if the murder were legal, 1357 01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:44,280 Speaker 1: and there you met someone that was like, I've just 1358 01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:46,480 Speaker 1: never murdered anyone, you'd go like, oh God, I don't 1359 01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:48,640 Speaker 1: want to hang out with that person. And he was 1360 01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:51,440 Speaker 1: like most of the people being murdered would be children. 1361 01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:54,600 Speaker 1: By the way, people would just be killing their children constantly. 1362 01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,560 Speaker 1: It would be a problem. They would be like, we 1363 01:03:57,680 --> 01:03:59,480 Speaker 1: have to start cleaning up. If you murder your kid, 1364 01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:03,040 Speaker 1: you have to clean up your murdered kid. So funny, 1365 01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,720 Speaker 1: but it was just about like that feeling like it 1366 01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:10,439 Speaker 1: reminded me of like you should take action, and and yeah, 1367 01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:13,000 Speaker 1: I guess that's the That's the other hurdle that I 1368 01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,840 Speaker 1: come to is that when I'm feeling something I wanna 1369 01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:20,680 Speaker 1: feelings aren't enough, then that's ridiculous. Then feelings, if you're 1370 01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,360 Speaker 1: not gonna do something with them, then they are stupid, 1371 01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:27,360 Speaker 1: Like and then you're just being placated, like oh you Oh, 1372 01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:30,200 Speaker 1: it's understandable you feel this way, but you're kind of 1373 01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:33,480 Speaker 1: rolling your eyes like Jesus Christ, she's fucking losing her 1374 01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:36,560 Speaker 1: mind about this doll whose hair isn't straight or whatever 1375 01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:38,600 Speaker 1: I used to cry about as a kid, Like there's 1376 01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:41,280 Speaker 1: still that, like, oh, Nikki, that's so sad, but like 1377 01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:43,760 Speaker 1: looking at each other like what the fuck is wrong 1378 01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:46,520 Speaker 1: with our child? EJ Like I would catch those glances, 1379 01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:50,040 Speaker 1: and that I think is where you're talk where now 1380 01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:53,360 Speaker 1: I'm getting activated because you're like, it doesn't your action 1381 01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:56,520 Speaker 1: should not. You didn't. You don't get to act on it, 1382 01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:59,400 Speaker 1: and I want to act on it. I e sob 1383 01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:02,720 Speaker 1: wild and hurl my body around a van, a moving van, 1384 01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:04,640 Speaker 1: because it's nothing. He doesn't have. 1385 01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:07,480 Speaker 4: Streaming about it. You should. Like the other day, we 1386 01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:11,480 Speaker 4: had a friend is very angry and she took Nikki's 1387 01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:14,560 Speaker 4: advice and listened to a Taylor Swift song and really 1388 01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:17,840 Speaker 4: loud and raged in her car and screamed to the song. 1389 01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,520 Speaker 4: And it was really cathartic for her. She didn't hurt anybody, 1390 01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,560 Speaker 4: she didn't yell at anybody, she didn't fire off. 1391 01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:26,800 Speaker 1: Any and this is why we can't have nice things. 1392 01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:31,560 Speaker 4: And that's a healthy use of anger. Like she got 1393 01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:34,120 Speaker 4: her feelings validated by all of us on the Girls Chat, 1394 01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,280 Speaker 4: and then she was able to express it in a 1395 01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:38,040 Speaker 4: healthy way. 1396 01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:41,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, because you don't have control. 1397 01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:42,480 Speaker 4: Murder three people and throw them into a bog. 1398 01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,680 Speaker 3: You don't have control over your feelings. Your feelings just 1399 01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:49,000 Speaker 3: come up from your subconscious and so you can't say 1400 01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:51,680 Speaker 3: that someone feeling something is wrong or right, or that 1401 01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:53,960 Speaker 3: you should or shouldn't feel a certain way. You don't 1402 01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,120 Speaker 3: have any control over it. They just come. But like, 1403 01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:59,600 Speaker 3: imagine a scenario where you're driving your car and then 1404 01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:04,320 Speaker 3: someone cuts you off and then you feel so angry 1405 01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:07,800 Speaker 3: that you want to kill the other person. Yeah, you 1406 01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:11,840 Speaker 3: can't just go kill the other person because you feel angry. 1407 01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:14,360 Speaker 1: That was how Louie got into this. Betty's like, when 1408 01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:17,680 Speaker 1: I'm driving, it's the worst person I've ever I'm just like, oh, 1409 01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,480 Speaker 1: fucking kill you. And it's like why because you had 1410 01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:22,200 Speaker 1: to go, Like you had to push on the brake 1411 01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:25,320 Speaker 1: for two seconds? Yeah, Like why does it elicit? And 1412 01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:29,520 Speaker 1: we're all driving these weapons around other weapons, It should 1413 01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:32,200 Speaker 1: be the time that we're most compassionate why does this 1414 01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:33,720 Speaker 1: time bring out the worst in us? 1415 01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:34,280 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1416 01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:36,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, you shouldn't be able to kill someone. 1417 01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:36,840 Speaker 1: I get that. 1418 01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:39,840 Speaker 3: Your emotions, even though they feel real, and even if 1419 01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:42,680 Speaker 3: you feel them more than others, they do not justify 1420 01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:44,080 Speaker 3: your actions. 1421 01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:49,080 Speaker 4: Now it makes sense, you Pie, You say this phrase 1422 01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:52,320 Speaker 4: a lot. I know I'm right. You say I know 1423 01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,439 Speaker 4: I'm right a lot, Like I know I'm right about 1424 01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:57,000 Speaker 4: Matchboks twenty And if you, guys, if anyone comes at 1425 01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:59,640 Speaker 4: me about Matchboks twenty, try I You're just wrong, or 1426 01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:04,960 Speaker 4: like Swift, I know I'm right, yeah, And like I 1427 01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,880 Speaker 4: know I'm right to feel whatever we were talking about earlier, 1428 01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,800 Speaker 4: Like I know I'm right to be Yeah. And that's 1429 01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:14,120 Speaker 4: because what you just revealed today, which was so interesting, 1430 01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:19,440 Speaker 4: that you did not have your little childhood feelings validated, 1431 01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:23,560 Speaker 4: truly validated. So this is your adult way of being, 1432 01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:26,160 Speaker 4: Like I'm not crazy, and I. 1433 01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:29,840 Speaker 3: Am like the reason you're a comedian self parenting, I 1434 01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:30,680 Speaker 3: mean you. 1435 01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:37,720 Speaker 1: Self preservation, and say, I'm not that's the thing I'm 1436 01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:39,680 Speaker 1: I'm like having a narcissist time where it's like you 1437 01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:41,520 Speaker 1: can say I'm wrong all you want, and I'm just 1438 01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:45,200 Speaker 1: like poor Anya, doesn't. 1439 01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:48,320 Speaker 4: You've helped me with this before, Like I have I 1440 01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:54,160 Speaker 4: have bad trauma around cheating, and it's like I have 1441 01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:58,800 Speaker 4: these very valid feelings sometimes that are really painful, that 1442 01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:03,240 Speaker 4: are like I'm afraid of being betrayed, or I'm afraid 1443 01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:06,840 Speaker 4: of being cheated on, or I'm like jealous, envious of 1444 01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:12,320 Speaker 4: jealous of somebody, and and I just have to like 1445 01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:15,560 Speaker 4: be super gentle with myself and be like, those are 1446 01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:17,680 Speaker 4: really valid feelings. If I go to a place of 1447 01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,600 Speaker 4: like you're fucking nuts, get over this, like just be 1448 01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:24,160 Speaker 4: a cool girl, stop with this, it doesn't do anything, 1449 01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:26,000 Speaker 4: like it just makes it worse. But if I can 1450 01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:27,959 Speaker 4: just be like, wow, you had a lot of trauma, 1451 01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:31,120 Speaker 4: so much trauma around this, and it was not fair 1452 01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:35,080 Speaker 4: and it was not cool, that helps to just be like, oh, 1453 01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:37,800 Speaker 4: there's a lot in me that like needs healing and 1454 01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:39,559 Speaker 4: I need to be patient with that part of me. 1455 01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:42,800 Speaker 4: But then with the action that it's not like and 1456 01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:46,200 Speaker 4: I'm right to feel this because all men are fucking cheaters. 1457 01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:48,320 Speaker 4: That's where I want to go with it. There's a 1458 01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:49,920 Speaker 4: part of me that wants to go there, like and 1459 01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:52,560 Speaker 4: I know I'm fucking right because I have all this evidence. 1460 01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:55,160 Speaker 4: So I am right, that all men will cheat and 1461 01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:57,400 Speaker 4: you and like all this shit, But it's like, no, 1462 01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:03,040 Speaker 4: the more mature your conclusion is deal with your feelings. 1463 01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:06,320 Speaker 4: They are valid, but deal with them in a healthy way. No, 1464 01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:10,960 Speaker 4: try to trust trustworthy people. They are out there, you know, 1465 01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:13,599 Speaker 4: choose healthy relationships, et cetera, et cetera. 1466 01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:16,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, I relate to that black and white thinking of 1467 01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:20,479 Speaker 1: like they're all like, I'm like every woman that is 1468 01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:24,280 Speaker 1: regarded as the hottest woman is thin and has great 1469 01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:27,479 Speaker 1: bone structure and her skin isn't sagging off her face 1470 01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:30,720 Speaker 1: in the ways mine is. So I literally am horrific 1471 01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:34,439 Speaker 1: and should probably kill myself because what's the point if 1472 01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:37,639 Speaker 1: that's all you should aspire to be, Like, that's where 1473 01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:40,000 Speaker 1: my mind goes, to just kill yourself if you just 1474 01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:43,479 Speaker 1: can't be the best, or if you know in the 1475 01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:45,400 Speaker 1: lens that you're saying it. If I felt the way 1476 01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:47,720 Speaker 1: about cheating, I'd be like, you're never going to find 1477 01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:51,200 Speaker 1: a man who is All men cheat. All men want 1478 01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,559 Speaker 1: to cheat, even if they don't cheat, they want to, 1479 01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:55,920 Speaker 1: and even that bothers me. So I'll just never fucking 1480 01:09:56,120 --> 01:10:00,000 Speaker 1: ever trust a man. Right, But there's always exceptions. There 1481 01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:05,280 Speaker 1: are people that find other like, And my point it 1482 01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:07,920 Speaker 1: always is with like. People are like, but there are 1483 01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,680 Speaker 1: men who are attracted to other things. I'm like, but 1484 01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:13,680 Speaker 1: they'd rather have something else. And I never want to 1485 01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:16,400 Speaker 1: be an exception because the guy's like, well, I can't 1486 01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:20,240 Speaker 1: get Emily Radiszowski, so I guess I'll settle on Nicki Glazer. Like, 1487 01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:23,400 Speaker 1: if you want someone else more than me, I don't 1488 01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:25,040 Speaker 1: want to be with you. I want to be the 1489 01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:28,960 Speaker 1: number one thing you could ever imagine achieving in your life. 1490 01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:31,160 Speaker 1: And there's no one better than me, which is insane 1491 01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:33,960 Speaker 1: because there's always going to be someone more attractive than you, 1492 01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:35,920 Speaker 1: especially as we age. 1493 01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:40,360 Speaker 4: Dude, final thought, Yeah, the word you just said you 1494 01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:43,639 Speaker 4: have to discuss with your therapist because that is so telling. 1495 01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:49,400 Speaker 4: You said achieve. Yes, you said achieve about Nicki Glazer, 1496 01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:53,479 Speaker 4: a guy saying I'm going to achieve Nicki Gaz. 1497 01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:57,479 Speaker 1: I want to be That's why I don't mind if 1498 01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:02,040 Speaker 1: my boyfriend is attracted to other women or is intimate 1499 01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:05,320 Speaker 1: with other women, because if he stays with me, I 1500 01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:07,920 Speaker 1: I'm constantly proving to myself that I am the best 1501 01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:09,840 Speaker 1: and that he hasn't left me for her yet, so 1502 01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:13,800 Speaker 1: like he can go sample other cakes, but I'm the 1503 01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:15,920 Speaker 1: one he's eaten late at night, Like I'm the one 1504 01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:16,679 Speaker 1: he's taking home. 1505 01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:18,040 Speaker 2: True constantly. 1506 01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:21,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I don't does other stuff because it's like 1507 01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:24,600 Speaker 1: that's just stuff to see if he wants it. But 1508 01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:27,160 Speaker 1: guess what, he doesn't. And I keep getting validated. That's 1509 01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:29,680 Speaker 1: why I like that. It keeps validating that I am 1510 01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:32,720 Speaker 1: number one, whereas if we go through Like I did 1511 01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:34,360 Speaker 1: a joke last night on stage that was like I'm 1512 01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:37,120 Speaker 1: going to been in a ten year relationship pretty much, 1513 01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:40,080 Speaker 1: you know, And I was just talking about how like 1514 01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:44,320 Speaker 1: age has affected my body, especially like my vagina and stuff, 1515 01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:46,479 Speaker 1: and like things that just don't look the same lately 1516 01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:48,880 Speaker 1: and they don't feel the same, and it's Annie gave 1517 01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:52,960 Speaker 1: me the line of it's getting jowels and it's getting 1518 01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:55,479 Speaker 1: jowy down there, and it's starting to look like my 1519 01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:57,840 Speaker 1: grandma in the final years of her life, like my 1520 01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:01,120 Speaker 1: vagina at thirty nine. So it's true, it like reminds 1521 01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:02,559 Speaker 1: me of me me, and I miss her every time 1522 01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:09,040 Speaker 1: I look down. But I was saying, like, if something 1523 01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:13,120 Speaker 1: happened with me and Chris, I am now like uh oh, 1524 01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:15,439 Speaker 1: Like I looked at my vagina and go. I wouldn't 1525 01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:18,280 Speaker 1: want someone new to see this. He doesn't notice because 1526 01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:21,360 Speaker 1: it's been over time. But there's no way I could 1527 01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:23,799 Speaker 1: present this right now the way it is without getting 1528 01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:26,360 Speaker 1: some kind of my mind goes. If Chris breaks up 1529 01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:28,360 Speaker 1: with me, I have to get vaginal surgery because I 1530 01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:31,920 Speaker 1: can't have someone new see this. So I need Chris 1531 01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:34,200 Speaker 1: to constantly go out and see new pussies in my 1532 01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:37,280 Speaker 1: mind now to like validate that he still wants this one, 1533 01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:39,120 Speaker 1: because I think he's just gotten used to it, and 1534 01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:41,519 Speaker 1: I don't want someone who's just like, uh, this is 1535 01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,559 Speaker 1: all I can get. I guess I just have to 1536 01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:45,800 Speaker 1: stay with it because I'm locked in. Another reason I 1537 01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:47,960 Speaker 1: don't like marriage because it feels like you have to 1538 01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:49,559 Speaker 1: stay with me because now there's a ring on your finger, 1539 01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:50,920 Speaker 1: and you made all this pledge in front of all 1540 01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:52,559 Speaker 1: your family and friends, and we spent thousands of dollars. 1541 01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:54,679 Speaker 1: So that's why you're with me, as opposed to he's 1542 01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:57,679 Speaker 1: with me because he could be with anyone at any time, 1543 01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:01,960 Speaker 1: and he keeps choosing me. Being a girlfriend makes it 1544 01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:05,000 Speaker 1: feel like I am fighting for something and achieving something 1545 01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:07,360 Speaker 1: more than if I got married. It would feel like 1546 01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:09,240 Speaker 1: an achievement on that day, like I did it, But 1547 01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:12,160 Speaker 1: past that, I'd be like, Oh, I just locked him 1548 01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:14,320 Speaker 1: in a cage, and now I'm acting like he wants 1549 01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:16,040 Speaker 1: to stay. He doesn't. 1550 01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:19,120 Speaker 2: No, he can't leave. He's locked in. 1551 01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:22,000 Speaker 1: That stuff doesn't make me feel like I achieved snaring 1552 01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:24,360 Speaker 1: this animal. It's it's trapped. It doesn't want to be 1553 01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:28,439 Speaker 1: with me. Locked him in there jowls. 1554 01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:34,560 Speaker 4: But this is like, you don't do this with your girlfriends. 1555 01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:39,240 Speaker 4: What do you mean you don't have an achievement paradigm 1556 01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:40,160 Speaker 4: with your girlfriends. 1557 01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:43,160 Speaker 1: Tell me a little bit of that, Like I feel, 1558 01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:46,959 Speaker 1: I'm just so confident that I'm the best friend possible, 1559 01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:51,200 Speaker 1: and you all can meet each other and find other 1560 01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:54,080 Speaker 1: versions of what I offer in a friendship in other people. 1561 01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:59,679 Speaker 1: But I do there's a narcissistic attent. No, I there's 1562 01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:01,640 Speaker 1: nothing I feel more accomplished about in my life than 1563 01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:05,160 Speaker 1: the ability to collect amazing girlfriends and to nurture amazing 1564 01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:08,960 Speaker 1: friendships that both support me and that I feel that 1565 01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:11,439 Speaker 1: I can support them. There's nothing more in my life 1566 01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:13,080 Speaker 1: that I'll ever be more proud of. Put it on 1567 01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:16,120 Speaker 1: my gravestone. I'm the best at making girlfriends. No, question 1568 01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:19,960 Speaker 1: about it. It's true, but I know, but the love 1569 01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:20,720 Speaker 1: it's like. 1570 01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:25,080 Speaker 4: Love is not a the way the words you're using, 1571 01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:27,640 Speaker 4: but like collect. 1572 01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:29,840 Speaker 2: Collect girlfriends. 1573 01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:32,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, like I'm I mean, I'm just I'm trying to 1574 01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:33,600 Speaker 1: be I'm saying it for humor. 1575 01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:36,040 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, you know, but I mean, like with Chris, 1576 01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:39,960 Speaker 4: it makes it's I don't know, like that's a lot 1577 01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:42,479 Speaker 4: of pressure to put on yourself that you love it 1578 01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:43,479 Speaker 4: best you do. 1579 01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:46,599 Speaker 1: I love it. I want it. I don't want him. 1580 01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:50,600 Speaker 1: I want to constantly be the best that is in me. 1581 01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:53,640 Speaker 3: You see a porn. What if he sees a pussy's 1582 01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:56,839 Speaker 3: and porn? Is that enough? You look at those pussies 1583 01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:59,840 Speaker 3: and he goes, ah, I want glaze, you know? Is 1584 01:14:59,880 --> 01:15:00,280 Speaker 3: that yeah? 1585 01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:01,320 Speaker 2: That actually is enough? 1586 01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:01,639 Speaker 4: I do. 1587 01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:04,120 Speaker 1: I do like him to watch porn, honestly, to just 1588 01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:06,439 Speaker 1: have an idea of what's out there and what he 1589 01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:09,160 Speaker 1: could be getting. Yet he still chooses me. That is 1590 01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:12,160 Speaker 1: one hundred percent correct. That it turns me on to 1591 01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:15,400 Speaker 1: here even when I hear him on the radio be like, yeah, 1592 01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:19,439 Speaker 1: there's been some attractive Jeopardy contestants lately, or like, you know, 1593 01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:22,880 Speaker 1: there was some headline about the hottest Jeopardy contestant ever. 1594 01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:25,040 Speaker 1: They were reading about it and Chris is like Chris 1595 01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:27,080 Speaker 1: watches Jeopardy every day, and he's like, there's been some 1596 01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:29,240 Speaker 1: really good looking ones recently. It was like the most 1597 01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:31,320 Speaker 1: banal thing. He was just being very polite, but like 1598 01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:34,120 Speaker 1: he didn't even say good looking. He's like some really impressive, 1599 01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:38,640 Speaker 1: you know, physically impressive people on the show. And I 1600 01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:40,640 Speaker 1: like wrote him like I heard you say this, and 1601 01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:42,599 Speaker 1: I was like, I loved it so much. And then 1602 01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:45,720 Speaker 1: Christin Bell came up and he goes, man, she is 1603 01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:49,599 Speaker 1: something and I was like, oh, yes, Like I don't 1604 01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:52,360 Speaker 1: know why that turns me on because I see that 1605 01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:56,400 Speaker 1: he now I know he is in tuned with other things. 1606 01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:59,879 Speaker 1: He's not given up. He's still noticing other women are attracted. 1607 01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:03,479 Speaker 1: That means he's constantly calibrating. I got to keep up. 1608 01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:05,880 Speaker 2: I like that. I never want to. 1609 01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:08,400 Speaker 1: I don't like being complacent or a feeling like I 1610 01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:10,599 Speaker 1: just and I know a lot of people are probably 1611 01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:13,360 Speaker 1: like this is so sad. Nicky never feels safe. I 1612 01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:16,800 Speaker 1: a hundred there. The truth is, I'm probably a narcissist 1613 01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:19,599 Speaker 1: because I know there's no one better for me than him. 1614 01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:21,280 Speaker 1: He could break up with me and end up with someone, 1615 01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:23,680 Speaker 1: and I'd be like, he's always gonna think about me, 1616 01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:26,120 Speaker 1: even though that's not the truth. And there are men 1617 01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:28,479 Speaker 1: in my past that I've said that about and I 1618 01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:30,840 Speaker 1: don't feel that way. I'm like, no, that person's better 1619 01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:32,960 Speaker 1: for them. They never think about me at all. But 1620 01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:36,680 Speaker 1: for Chris, I'm certain I'm the best he could do. 1621 01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:38,760 Speaker 6: I think that's confidence, not narcissism. 1622 01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:41,520 Speaker 4: But you said he's the best I know. I'm confident 1623 01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:44,200 Speaker 4: that he that he is the best person for me. 1624 01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:45,320 Speaker 4: Didn't you just say. 1625 01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:48,559 Speaker 1: That I'm the best person for him. I'm confident right 1626 01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:50,280 Speaker 1: now that he's the best person for me, and I'm 1627 01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:53,120 Speaker 1: constantly calibrating that too, to be quite honest. 1628 01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:54,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, it sounds like a good match. 1629 01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:58,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's like because I want I want to 1630 01:16:58,800 --> 01:16:59,920 Speaker 1: be with the bet, I want the best. 1631 01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:03,400 Speaker 3: It's almost like you guys are in a stand still 1632 01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:06,559 Speaker 3: in an arm wrestling match and nobody He. 1633 01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:09,080 Speaker 1: Would hate this. He's not like this, this is this 1634 01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:11,040 Speaker 1: is an invention in my own mind. He has no 1635 01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:15,120 Speaker 1: idea that I mean. It's not like I'm constantly like 1636 01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:17,320 Speaker 1: is this guy better? Is this guy better? Not like that. 1637 01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:20,639 Speaker 1: I'm just like I And it's not even about better, 1638 01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:23,439 Speaker 1: better looking, taller, whatever, more money. 1639 01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:26,080 Speaker 2: I don't weigh those things. It's like, could someone love 1640 01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:26,559 Speaker 2: me more? 1641 01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:30,880 Speaker 1: That is, if someone comes into my world that I'm 1642 01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:34,400 Speaker 1: like and they but they can't get in because they 1643 01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:36,800 Speaker 1: couldn't even get in the door right now because I'm 1644 01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:38,960 Speaker 1: in a relationship. So there's not a good chance of 1645 01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:42,320 Speaker 1: someone proving that. But if he starts to show signs 1646 01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:45,160 Speaker 1: of not loving me enough, if he were to suddenly 1647 01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:47,360 Speaker 1: start saying cruel things which he's never done in his 1648 01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:51,920 Speaker 1: whole life, or just ignoring me being affectionateless things like that, 1649 01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:54,800 Speaker 1: I one hundred percent would start looking for someone else 1650 01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:57,840 Speaker 1: to love me more. But so that is and I 1651 01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:00,160 Speaker 1: think everyone should. Is that crazy? I don't think that 1652 01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:02,439 Speaker 1: you should just settle just because you're married, like for 1653 01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:04,040 Speaker 1: whatever that person's willing to give you. 1654 01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:06,880 Speaker 3: Well, if the person is no longer giving you what 1655 01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:09,920 Speaker 3: you need in the relationship and then they're also unwilling 1656 01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:11,960 Speaker 3: to put in any effort to. 1657 01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:13,800 Speaker 1: Give you, you would have to address it with them 1658 01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:15,920 Speaker 1: and say, hey, I've noticed this is a thing that's happening. 1659 01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:17,719 Speaker 1: Because it could be like they're going through a depression 1660 01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:23,080 Speaker 1: or something like that. But yeah, teeth hurt, their teeth hurt. 1661 01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:26,160 Speaker 1: I mean that is a huge thing. Brian is in 1662 01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:29,200 Speaker 1: constant pain. He's at A seven most of the time, 1663 01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:30,840 Speaker 1: in pain from one to ten. 1664 01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:34,160 Speaker 3: I'm feeling okay right now, I haven't eaten yet, but. 1665 01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:35,200 Speaker 1: What are you at right now? 1666 01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:36,840 Speaker 3: Four? 1667 01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:39,479 Speaker 1: Okay, that's not bad. 1668 01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:40,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not bad. 1669 01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:44,639 Speaker 1: If people have chronic pain and you are in my life, 1670 01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:46,920 Speaker 1: please let me know because otherwise I just think you're 1671 01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:49,559 Speaker 1: a dick. Not that I ever thought Brian was a dick, 1672 01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:53,120 Speaker 1: but I just think I'll go, oh, Brian's like bored 1673 01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:56,439 Speaker 1: with me right now or whatever, and these aren't actually thought, 1674 01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:59,680 Speaker 1: but I will just take it personally. But when someone's like, 1675 01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:04,400 Speaker 1: I'm cramping right now, really bad, my back hurts, whatever 1676 01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:07,400 Speaker 1: it is, I suddenly all of the things, I'm like, 1677 01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:10,040 Speaker 1: why is this person such a grump? Like it? It 1678 01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:12,280 Speaker 1: suddenly alleviates it for me, and then I'm like, oh, okay, 1679 01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:15,479 Speaker 1: And then now I'm like, I don't take anything personally, 1680 01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:18,800 Speaker 1: but people, man, I'm not someone who has lived in 1681 01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:20,920 Speaker 1: chronic pain. But I've said it on the podcast before. 1682 01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:22,720 Speaker 1: If you do, I have so much empathy. I don't 1683 01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:23,840 Speaker 1: know how you do it. I don't know how you 1684 01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:25,360 Speaker 1: go to work. I don't know how you dress your 1685 01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:26,960 Speaker 1: kids in the morning. I don't know how you got 1686 01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:32,519 Speaker 1: a narcissist? What not a narcissist? Honestly the way I 1687 01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:34,960 Speaker 1: feel about people in pain. I had a dream last 1688 01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:36,559 Speaker 1: night that my friend was in pain and I was 1689 01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:40,200 Speaker 1: just like helping them and like holding them and getting 1690 01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:43,240 Speaker 1: them things and like just like rubbing their head, like 1691 01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:45,680 Speaker 1: patting their head gently because they were in pain. And 1692 01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:50,240 Speaker 1: like I I'm like, Brian is someone in my life 1693 01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:52,559 Speaker 1: that's in pain a lot. And then my other friend, 1694 01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:54,400 Speaker 1: Bill is currently in a lot of pain and I 1695 01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:55,920 Speaker 1: have to be around him a lot, and I'm like, 1696 01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:58,120 Speaker 1: it's hard for me to be around them because I'm 1697 01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:00,519 Speaker 1: so like, give me some it, Like. 1698 01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:02,120 Speaker 2: Can I please take some of it? 1699 01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:04,599 Speaker 1: Like it? Because I'm also like and then I get 1700 01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:08,240 Speaker 1: a narcissistic thought of like, man, I suck. If I 1701 01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:10,479 Speaker 1: had that, I wouldn't be here, and he's here, He's 1702 01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:12,719 Speaker 1: better than me. And then I start hating myself because 1703 01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:15,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm such a pussy. I could never do 1704 01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:18,439 Speaker 1: what they're doing. And then I make it about myself. No, 1705 01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:20,320 Speaker 1: how do you do it? How do you get through it? 1706 01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:21,760 Speaker 3: I just want to say, like, let that be. It 1707 01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:24,479 Speaker 3: should be a life less than everybody takes an account 1708 01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:30,559 Speaker 3: is never ever take anything personally because it is almost 1709 01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:34,559 Speaker 3: never about you. If someone's acting like a dick or 1710 01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:39,200 Speaker 3: being a little short or whatever, trust me, it's not 1711 01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:42,559 Speaker 3: about you. So like, yeah, what I say about people 1712 01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:44,719 Speaker 3: who are in chronic pain or stuff, there's no excuse. 1713 01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:46,800 Speaker 3: It's just like when you feel things in a certain way. 1714 01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:51,320 Speaker 3: My pain feelings are just emotional feelings that are manifesting 1715 01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:55,400 Speaker 3: through physical symptoms. Because I feel that way. That's not 1716 01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:58,000 Speaker 3: an excuse to be a dick. That doesn't excuse any 1717 01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:00,760 Speaker 3: type of behavior. You still have to to be your 1718 01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:05,639 Speaker 3: best self despite that and so but on the other 1719 01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:09,559 Speaker 3: side of it, do not take it personally. If someone's 1720 01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:11,760 Speaker 3: addict to you, you can hate them, you can be like, 1721 01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:13,280 Speaker 3: I don't think that I don't want to be around 1722 01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:14,920 Speaker 3: that person. They're gonna act like that all the time, 1723 01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:18,439 Speaker 3: but like, know that it's not something that you did. 1724 01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:21,759 Speaker 3: It's not about you. It's about them every single time, 1725 01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:23,920 Speaker 3: even if they're not in pain physically. 1726 01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:25,880 Speaker 1: I said this the other day in mixed company because 1727 01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:27,559 Speaker 1: Brian and I were hanging out with some people, and 1728 01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:31,519 Speaker 1: I noticed that Brian, there's someone that we were hanging 1729 01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:33,840 Speaker 1: out with that was like in a bad mood because 1730 01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:38,200 Speaker 1: of pain. And I and Brian shared something and I said, yeah, 1731 01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:42,640 Speaker 1: I had that ex same experience, and I go, just know, 1732 01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:45,080 Speaker 1: and both me and my girlfriend were like, just no, 1733 01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:47,920 Speaker 1: it is not like it is. Don't take it personally. 1734 01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:50,120 Speaker 1: And he was like, oh, I don't. I would, I would. 1735 01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:54,200 Speaker 1: There was no even Brian, this is the difference maybe 1736 01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:56,519 Speaker 1: between men and women, if I'm going to be more 1737 01:21:56,920 --> 01:22:01,040 Speaker 1: obtuse about it. But me and this girl were like 1738 01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:05,320 Speaker 1: so ready to just convince him that it wasn't his fault, 1739 01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:07,479 Speaker 1: and he was like, no, I know that. I'm not 1740 01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:10,200 Speaker 1: scared of this person. I don't. I'm not mad at them. 1741 01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:12,960 Speaker 1: I don't think I did something wrong. They're just in pain. 1742 01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:15,120 Speaker 1: Like it was just a little awkward, but that doesn't 1743 01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:16,760 Speaker 1: mean I'm gonna like feel sad about it all day. 1744 01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:20,559 Speaker 1: And I'm like, what would that be? Like my god 1745 01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:23,519 Speaker 1: offended yesterday when I went to the cafe and the 1746 01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:26,200 Speaker 1: girl who I ordered my coffee from was a little 1747 01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:27,840 Speaker 1: bit short with me. I couldn't get out of my 1748 01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:30,519 Speaker 1: head for like four hours. This girl I'm never gonna 1749 01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:32,640 Speaker 1: see again. She doesn't even work there. The girl that 1750 01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:35,360 Speaker 1: I like was just not there. And this girl was like, 1751 01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:37,679 Speaker 1: I'll have your coffee in a second because I accidentally 1752 01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:39,800 Speaker 1: grabbed the wrong one, and then she forgot to put 1753 01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:41,880 Speaker 1: a Stevia in it, and I go, Hi, can I 1754 01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:44,559 Speaker 1: get a Stevia? And she should have said, oh, sorry, 1755 01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:47,360 Speaker 1: I forgot, but instead she goes yeah, and I'm like, yeah, 1756 01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:49,280 Speaker 1: because I asked for one before, and you remember it 1757 01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:50,920 Speaker 1: because I even said one and a half because you 1758 01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:52,360 Speaker 1: were like, do you want to? And I said, kay, 1759 01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:54,639 Speaker 1: what and a half? What the heck? Was that weird? 1760 01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:56,599 Speaker 1: And we had a little laugh about it, or I 1761 01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:59,240 Speaker 1: guess I didn't. And then she's like and then she 1762 01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:02,599 Speaker 1: was a rude to I'm still angry about it. But 1763 01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:04,960 Speaker 1: Brian was just like, oh, yeah, I wouldn't. I don't 1764 01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:07,040 Speaker 1: take things personally. It was just so, how do you 1765 01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:08,360 Speaker 1: not do that? Have you always been that way? 1766 01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:11,400 Speaker 3: Brian in a situation like that? I mean, I can 1767 01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:14,519 Speaker 3: totally understand when someone's got full of stress and they 1768 01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:16,719 Speaker 3: just kind of snap at you, and it's like, well, 1769 01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:20,440 Speaker 3: that's not definitely not about me. I don't know I guess. 1770 01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:22,479 Speaker 1: It doesn't stay with you all day, like even though 1771 01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:25,200 Speaker 1: you know cognitively, it's not like you still feel guilty 1772 01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:28,960 Speaker 1: I should have done something differently now they don't like me. 1773 01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:31,439 Speaker 3: Mentally mentally it might stay with me all day just 1774 01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:35,000 Speaker 3: to be like just to just to say like can 1775 01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:38,080 Speaker 3: you believe that? But I'm certainly not reeling over it, 1776 01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:39,200 Speaker 3: and you're. 1777 01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:41,840 Speaker 1: Not making a judgment about yourself and like I'm a 1778 01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:42,400 Speaker 1: piece of shit. 1779 01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:47,200 Speaker 3: No, I'm kind of I calculate, like, well, now, knowing 1780 01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:49,600 Speaker 3: that this person might act that way when they're in 1781 01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:55,120 Speaker 3: high stress situations, what can I do to in a 1782 01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:57,640 Speaker 3: situation like this. I do not walk on eggshells in 1783 01:23:57,680 --> 01:23:59,799 Speaker 3: a relationship like this, but in a like a romantic 1784 01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:02,240 Speaker 3: or lie. But I'm thinking like, okay, so what can 1785 01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:06,160 Speaker 3: I do in order to make that not happen again 1786 01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:13,280 Speaker 3: when interacting with me? To taking that into a yeah, oh. 1787 01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:16,200 Speaker 1: God, I wish that for every woman listening to this 1788 01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:20,720 Speaker 1: podcast right now a little bit because worst character flat 1789 01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:22,920 Speaker 1: taking the amount of times I see myself and my 1790 01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:26,640 Speaker 1: friends derailed for weeks on end from anything productive they 1791 01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:29,040 Speaker 1: could be doing because one person got mad at them 1792 01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:31,080 Speaker 1: at one point that had nothing to do with them. 1793 01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:32,680 Speaker 1: And I can see it so clearly because I'm not 1794 01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:37,360 Speaker 1: in it is. There's years of people's lives wasted every 1795 01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:39,840 Speaker 1: day from short interactions that have nothing to do with them. 1796 01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:43,760 Speaker 1: Please God, stop wasting your life worrying about people being 1797 01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:45,880 Speaker 1: mad at you. Oh it's the biggest waste of time. 1798 01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:47,000 Speaker 1: Go right up, poem. 1799 01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:51,760 Speaker 3: I forgot to mention that. Also, every morning I've been 1800 01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:55,040 Speaker 3: slipping a little bit of arsenic into his coffee, just 1801 01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:57,640 Speaker 3: a little bit so it will come back. 1802 01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:02,240 Speaker 1: It is your fault. Oh yeah, I will get. 1803 01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:04,080 Speaker 4: Just one and a half back into our sen Yes. 1804 01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:04,880 Speaker 1: We gotta go. 1805 01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:06,880 Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to the pod this week. 1806 01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:09,759 Speaker 1: You guys, we really uncomfort a lot about myself today. 1807 01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:10,600 Speaker 2: I appreciate that. 1808 01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:12,040 Speaker 1: And uh, we'll. 1809 01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:12,720 Speaker 2: See you next week. 1810 01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:16,519 Speaker 1: Don't be cut and just feel your feelings. Don't murder 1811 01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:16,800 Speaker 1: someone