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Speaker 2: to the meaning of life. Gentlemen, it's good to be

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Speaker 2: with you again. Here in week fifteen of the National

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Speaker 2: Football League season, I was waiting in the wings, you know,

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Speaker 2: you're in the bullpen and kind of getting it working

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Speaker 2: up a lather before coming into the studio, and I

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Speaker 2: started looking up things about finish leagues.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what to what to tell you. I

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Speaker 3: got a little obsessive.

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Speaker 2: With with you know, ols and what it means and

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Speaker 2: what it's all about, because you know, I'm a completist

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Speaker 2: like you guys. I want to compete too.

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Speaker 4: We want to be involved within a barrel betting with us.

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Speaker 2: Is that in Well, I'm always curious as to the

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Speaker 2: depths of depravity that Shay's going to go to.

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Speaker 3: It would hurt me to.

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Speaker 4: Beat both you and Bucky. I mean really, I don't

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Speaker 4: want to do that.

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Speaker 5: I mean, in the words of it Late, I mean,

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Speaker 5: in the words of the great Chicago Bear Jim Harbor, Competitors.

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Speaker 6: Welcome, nice editors are welcome.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's more just the always the curiosity, guys of.

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Speaker 2: You know where we're going in the globe. And then

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Speaker 2: figuring out what some of the team names are. Olin,

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Speaker 2: what do we got, Luis Tin Censura there you go

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Speaker 2: say that five times really fast. That's your OLS thing

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Speaker 2: as we flow through, but big slate ahead, and I

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Speaker 2: mean would be remiss if we didn't turn back the

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Speaker 2: clock to Thursday night's game. You know, there's the whole

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Speaker 2: epidemic of quiet quitting not so quiet when we look

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Speaker 2: at what happened in that Rams forty nine ers game

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Speaker 2: and how it plays out with Devandre Campbell and veteran

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Speaker 2: and all of the discussion points, I'm sure you guys

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Speaker 2: new time, and Maya poking the bear of both of

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Speaker 2: you as we go through, Bucky as A, as a

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Speaker 2: what do you think Andy, hundreds of people affiliated with

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Speaker 2: nine years in the National Football League, who, let's face it,

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Speaker 2: and what the expectations are, whatever the stats are, whatever

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Speaker 2: and guess what this is why you were brought in,

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Speaker 3: So a lot.

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Speaker 2: Coming off of this and people getting all up in

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Speaker 3: Andy.

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Speaker 7: You know, quitting right now, especially in any line of work,

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Speaker 7: it's like an electricity, the current stops and this guy's

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Speaker 4: It's ugly. But the one thing that came to.

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Speaker 7: Mind when I heard about this, and it's kind of

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Speaker 7: the Cleveland Browns in Cincinnati, he took off his shoulder pads,

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Speaker 7: walked away. He had it, but that's what get you know.

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Speaker 7: He played. At least he played and gave it only God.

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Speaker 7: Remember one game he rushed for over two hundred and

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Speaker 7: But he never quit during the game. He just wanted

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Speaker 4: With the Patriots.

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Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, but that thing peels in comparison to that,

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Speaker 5: Like that's throwing throwing, throwing you stuff into the stands

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Speaker 5: at the end of it, like being frustrated whatever. But

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Speaker 5: someone deliberately asked you, like, like, Andy, that would.

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Speaker 6: Be the equivalent. We're in studio.

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Speaker 5: I'm all of a sudden having a coughing fit, right,

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Speaker 5: I'm choking on a jolly rancher, and my Mike is

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Speaker 5: asking you, Andy, we need you.

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Speaker 6: To talk, and You're like, no, I'm not right. I

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Speaker 4: Giving you the I come around, give you the man now.

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Speaker 2: To be fair, I've had plenty of circumstances here in

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Speaker 2: sundays and weekdays past, where you know, you run a

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Speaker 2: bunch of things up the flagpole of here's some topics

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Speaker 2: we're going to do, and then you go and introduce

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Speaker 2: it and your partner looks at you, going I got nothing.

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Speaker 3: Thanks, I appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for chiming in on the rundown and everything that

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Speaker 3: I won't name names.

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Speaker 4: Is anybody in this circle of friend.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, this is This is a well trusted,

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Speaker 2: well established, and well oiled machine. This is a chain

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Speaker 3: This is hold, Hold.

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Speaker 2: This is every battle line in a movie that you've seen,

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Speaker 2: And it's the the interesting part to me. Right, it

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Speaker 3: Him what he wants? Because if you give him a release.

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Speaker 2: Guess what he's been good enough as a high seventies

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Speaker 2: tackle total. And I know that doesn't tell everything, but

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Speaker 2: certainly active. And we've got a number of contenders that

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Speaker 2: who couldn't use a little bit of linebacker death Bucky,

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Speaker 3: Around as it flows. But let me ask this question.

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Speaker 2: Coming out of it, Kyle Shanahan had to immediately, you know,

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Speaker 2: I answer questions about the locker room and where we're at,

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Speaker 2: and it's easy to dismiss it as one guy, but

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Speaker 5: I don't think it's because I can't imagine Kyle Shanahan

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Speaker 6: Do what he does.

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Speaker 5: He is the czar for the forty nine ers. No

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Speaker 5: one else will necessarily give him the kind of power

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Speaker 5: John Lynch when it comes to the general manager and

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Speaker 5: those things. It's more so I think it's a signal

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Speaker 5: to him that has run his course this team, this

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Speaker 5: you have to make the hard decisions to rebuild the

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Speaker 5: older players, and so we go see a slow exodus

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Speaker 6: If you're the Niners, who are the young.

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Speaker 5: Players that you're going to entrust it to? Because Brandon

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Speaker 5: Ayuk would be the guy that takes the batime from

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Speaker 5: Deebo Samuel as the leader. But are you confident that

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Speaker 5: he can handle the leadership responsibilities after all the stuff

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Speaker 5: offseason in summer brock Purdy, are you gonna pay Brock

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Speaker 5: don't think it's about Kyle Shanahan's job being in jeopardy,

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Speaker 5: but it's time. You know, it's time. It's time to

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Speaker 4: I would say this one.

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Speaker 7: I don't think he's a job in jeopardy, but I

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Speaker 7: think that his credibility is in jeopardy. And what I

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Speaker 7: mean by that is that look number one, the wind

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Speaker 7: that was closed for the forty nine ers, they're finished.

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Speaker 7: It's now for the future. They got to look for

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Speaker 7: the future. But you look at the young player. As

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Speaker 7: next move? What he does is gonna lay a big

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Speaker 7: foundation for that team, what they call the culture. They

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Speaker 7: want to see what kind of guy this guy is.

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Speaker 7: Is he tough?

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Speaker 4: Is he weak?

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Speaker 7: Is he going to stand up and say that this

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Speaker 7: guy I don't want to see his face here anymore,

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Speaker 7: he's out of here. I mean, that's what he's got.

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Speaker 7: He's got to make a decision. I mean, I know

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Speaker 7: if Mike Tomlin it happened to him, he would take

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Speaker 7: the guy by the neck and throw him out the window.

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Speaker 7: Really is a difference. I mean, I gotta see what

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Speaker 7: Kyle Shanahan does, how he reacts to this is gonna

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Speaker 7: be a big, big statement in the future of the

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Speaker 7: forty nine ers and how he reacts with that ball club,

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Speaker 7: don't you agree.

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Speaker 2: Well, we had Deontay Johnson who had to get suspended

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Speaker 2: because he wouldn't go in. Remember Vonte Davis given the

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Speaker 2: deuces down in Miami back of the day, Antonio Brown

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Speaker 2: we've got precedent. What's curious is that I also get

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Speaker 2: to pull it back again in the bullpen. And I'm

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Speaker 2: listening to you guys wax loquaciously and being brilliant. Shanahan

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Speaker 2: facing some of the same questions that were being asked

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Speaker 2: about it. Get it raining Coach of the Year Kevin

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Speaker 2: Stefanski a couple of weeks ago about job security and

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Speaker 2: all of that, And and to your point, Bucky, I agree.

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Speaker 7: You hit it right on the head last hour when

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Speaker 3: Is not that guy?

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Speaker 2: My favorite shows to watch is the years when he

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Speaker 5: Yeah, harmon, I'll say this, anyone who hasn't checked out

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Speaker 4: Do you know when you played? Do you know Mike

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Speaker 6: I did not know Mike Martin.

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Speaker 7: Okay, he played for the Bengals. He just won the

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Speaker 6: Right, and all that.

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Speaker 6: He does that.

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Speaker 5: So, like when people talk about coaching and coaching matters,

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Speaker 5: Nick Saban's best coaching job to me was this final

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Speaker 5: No matter how long it is, man, if it's two years,

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Speaker 2: Well, I got one last one for you, Andy before

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Speaker 7: His brother's a quarterback coach.

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Speaker 5: He that should that should help Carson. But let me

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Speaker 6: Ground all those teams that he's dealing with.

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Speaker 2: Here, he can talk to the current Bengals quarterback. Because

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Speaker 2: this is why you're in good shape. Andy, Joe Burrow

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Speaker 4: But you told about that high school league.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what. I They got some players there too.

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Speaker 3: Guys see I love it.

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Speaker 2: We're talking some high school football, bringing it all full circle,

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Speaker 2: wrapping our arms around it. As we get rolling here

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Speaker 2: out of Fox Football son now by Carmen alongside me,

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Speaker 2: Andy Furman at Andy Furman FSR. Bucky Brooks find him

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Speaker 2: As we roll forward, we got five games left to

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Speaker 2: We'll get into it next.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what, Sometimes bad decisions end up being

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Speaker 2: the best. All right, five games left on the NFL

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Speaker 2: slate to get Let's get it started.

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Speaker 1: Buccaneers A Chargers.

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Speaker 3: As we roll through, we look at the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: You're at a plus seventy point differential, third in the

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Speaker 2: NFL with a plus eleven turnover differential. Hopeful to get

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Speaker 2: lad McConkey heard you guys talking about it. Check out

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Speaker 2: Bucky's article NFL dot com talking about his impact fifty

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Speaker 2: eight catches on the year, knee and shoulder. But he's

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Speaker 2: gonna give it the old college try, and they're gonna

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Speaker 2: need him. Justin Herbert two Orter, twelve yards per game,

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Speaker 2: fourteen touchdowns against just one pick, which is great, but

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Speaker 2: right now, struggling to run the football, Dobbins average four

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Speaker 2: point eight yards per carry.

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Speaker 3: Problem is he's hurt and.

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Speaker 2: Gus the bus barely falling forward at just three point

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Speaker 2: five per carry. Second leading receiver Will Disley, he's out,

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Speaker 2: but Stone smart steps in Josh Palmer trying to find

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Speaker 2: his way through. Get this thirty receptions on fifty targets

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Speaker 2: for Tampa Bay three game winning streak. You're at minus

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Speaker 2: two on the turnover differentials. Bucky Irving will give it

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Speaker 2: the olddry He's gonna go. Mike Gavan's trying to get

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Speaker 2: back to another thousand yard receiving season. You know what's

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Speaker 2: funny is Chris Godwin hasn't played in I don't know

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Speaker 2: two months. He's still the second leading receiver on this

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Speaker 2: squad with five hundred and seventy six yards, tied with

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Speaker 2: Kate Otten. Chargers three point favorite at home forty five

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Speaker 2: is your total? Can Jim Harbaugh get him up again?

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Speaker 2: Andy Furman, Well, here's the funny thing you did mention.

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Speaker 2: They've went three straight. But last week Baker Mayfield that

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Speaker 2: a pair of interceptions. So basically, you're going against the

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Speaker 2: team the Charges that allow the fewest points a game,

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Speaker 2: like fifteen points a game in the NFL.

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Speaker 7: Charges win this game. The Charges have him home. I

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Speaker 7: think the Charges could be a team to reckon with

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Speaker 7: in postseason. You don't want to play that team.

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Speaker 3: Can they score enough in the postseason?

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Speaker 4: Today?

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Speaker 7: They will question today they will, but I don't know

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Speaker 7: if they can. I mean they have to look that.

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Speaker 7: That's Jim Harbor though. I mean they run and then

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Speaker 7: there's a running team. They play on defense and they run.

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Speaker 7: That's how they win.

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Speaker 4: So he did it in college, he's doing it in

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Speaker 4: the pros.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I dig the charges. I think the charge of

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Speaker 5: the team to play here. This team is really good,

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Speaker 5: even though they're coming off a disappointing loss in Kansas City.

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Speaker 5: You look at what Jim Harbor has done, how they

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Speaker 5: construct the team. This team is built to play in

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Speaker 5: the postseason, and the postseason starts now, So.

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Speaker 6: Give me the charges. They find a way to get

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Speaker 6: it done.

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Speaker 5: They may not light up the scoreboard, but they certainly

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Speaker 5: put up enough points to knock off to ten Bay.

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Speaker 8: Buccaneers Steelers that he goes by one of the games

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Speaker 8: of the day, the Battle for the State of Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson says, all I do is win these games.

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Speaker 2: And you can go back and look at his history.

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Speaker 2: He's not lying. Five and a half point road underdogs

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Speaker 2: are the Steelers, which is always a great spot for

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Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin led squads. Forty three is your total Pittsburgh

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Speaker 2: winners of two straight and we were talking about, how

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Speaker 2: do you deal with guys who may be malcontented, Well,

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Speaker 2: when they're hurt that you don't have to deal with them.

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Speaker 2: George Pickens not there. Russell Wilson for multi touchdown games

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Speaker 2: and his seven played twelve to three, completing about sixty

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Speaker 2: five percent three and one their last four all division games.

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Speaker 2: And Naji Harris, the much malign Naji Harris leads the league,

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Speaker 2: creating fifty nine miss tackles. The thing that scares me though,

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Speaker 2: only three point nine yards per carry, But you know what,

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Speaker 2: three of.

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Speaker 3: Those is a first down.

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Speaker 2: Let's go, and they're first in turnover differential at plus seventeen.

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Speaker 2: On the other side, the chaotic, the twirly, the what

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Speaker 2: the hell's going on?

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Speaker 3: You're winners of nine straight.

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Speaker 2: But all we're talking about is mal contendedness, saltiness, the

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Speaker 2: would be MVP and Barkley coming over. He needs one

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Speaker 2: hundred and ten yards to get to two thousand total

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Speaker 2: for the year, hurts sixty eight percent completion percentage, two

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Speaker 2: hundred yards per game. How about aj Brown forty eight

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Speaker 2: catches on the year, He's got one touchdown since mid October.

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Speaker 2: Perhaps that's why he's a little salty. Hmmm, does he

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Speaker 2: get fed? Can he get it going against this Pittsburgh defense?

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Speaker 2: What say you, Bucky Brooks?

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Speaker 6: Such a tough game man.

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Speaker 5: Everything tells me to the Philadelphia Eagles are the more

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Speaker 5: talent team.

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Speaker 6: But it's something about the grittiness of the Pittsburgh Steelers

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Speaker 6: that leads me to take the Steelers.

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Speaker 5: This is a big game. I mean, they know what

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Speaker 5: they're up against. This as part of a real tough stretch.

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Speaker 5: But just give me Russell Wilson finding a way to

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Speaker 5: show this team why he was installed as the starter.

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Speaker 5: The experience, the expertise, the winning pedigree. Russell Wilson makes

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Speaker 5: the difference today.

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Speaker 7: I don't usually agree with Bucky Brooks. Just just to

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Speaker 7: come on, man, Steelers win. Steelers winning, I'll tell you why.

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Speaker 7: Sae Kwon Barkley obviously gonna get the ball in his belly. However, however,

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Speaker 7: Steelers allowed just about ninety yards of rushing yards a game,

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Speaker 7: fourth best in the league. All right, can the Philadelphia

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Speaker 7: Eagles win with Jalen Hurts throwing the football? Sae Quon

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Speaker 7: Barkley will not have a great game today because of

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Speaker 7: the Pittsburgh Steelers. Steelers win, I love it, and it's

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Speaker 7: gonna be a big game defensively, TJ.

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Speaker 1: Watt Today, big game.

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Speaker 7: Pittsburgh wins today and they bury the Eagles and their

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Speaker 7: nine game wins.

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Speaker 2: Did you catch their bucky how? And he may have

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Speaker 2: channeled a little bit of our our old friend Chris

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Speaker 2: Berman there TJ.

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Speaker 1: W Yeah, the way the vocal.

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Speaker 2: Inflection there, I like that. Little nods too to the

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Speaker 2: legends in history. All right, let's stay with Philadelphia for

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Speaker 2: a second. Let's talk this out. Brandon Graham goes and

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Speaker 2: does some radio appearances kind of talking about the unrest

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Speaker 2: on the offensive side of the ball. And then they

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Speaker 2: had to say, hey, get back here, come back in

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Speaker 2: the call to second, bring.

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Speaker 3: That around and let's talk this out a little bit more.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that I've ever seen a team that's,

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Speaker 2: you know, winning as consistently.

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Speaker 3: As they are. And yeah, some close close wins. Wins

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Speaker 3: are wins.

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Speaker 2: Right, succeed and proceed, put it in the file and

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Speaker 2: go but right, no, exactly like, look, you can say

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Speaker 2: what you want, but you know, the tail of the

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Speaker 2: tape is, you know, did you put the W up?

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Speaker 2: Are you eating w's? Like Jameis Winston always liked to say,

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Speaker 2: but exactly maybe later on today upset special. But you know,

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Speaker 2: for Sirianni and company, the fact that this still swirls

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Speaker 2: around them despite the success, Bucky.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is how much can this be fuel er?

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Speaker 2: I mean, do we think they're putting out little smoldering

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Speaker 2: fires all around that locker room.

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Speaker 5: I think they're putting out little smoldering fires all around

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Speaker 5: the locker room. It is a team that for whatever reason, Man, look,

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Speaker 5: they just don't handle success. Well, it's going, well, you

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Speaker 5: went nine in a row, and then you have wide

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Speaker 5: receivers on the sideline bickering. You have Aj Brown talking

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Speaker 5: about I need the ballmore the passing game. They're dominating

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Speaker 5: people with the gut punch of the running game, but

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Speaker 5: yet the guys on the perimeter need the ball more.

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Speaker 5: So you just wonder can they keep it together where

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Speaker 5: they keep the team as a priority as opposed to

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Speaker 5: the individual stuff.

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Speaker 6: Because it ain't the money.

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Speaker 5: Everyone's got the money, they've all been paid, they all

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Speaker 5: got new contract ascensions.

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Speaker 6: So this is something that's inside.

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Speaker 5: When it comes to not feeling like you are valued

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Speaker 5: because you're not touching the.

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Speaker 7: Rock that's on the coach though, that's why Siriana gets

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Speaker 7: all that heat because they wouldn't happen on a Belichick

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Speaker 7: coach team, wouldn't happen on a Mike tomin coach team.

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Speaker 3: Well, but that's there's the day now.

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Speaker 5: I said, like we saw Pickens and Deontay Johnson plenty.

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Speaker 2: Well keep going back with all the wide receivers and

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Speaker 2: running backs. I mean Mike Tomlin man, he can have

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Speaker 2: an honorary degree as a therapist for some of the

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Speaker 2: stuff he's had to do through the years.

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Speaker 1: Yes, some of those.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's had him to sit on the couch Minia

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Speaker 5: day and talk to it and just dump just dump

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Speaker 5: all on the therapist.

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Speaker 2: Tell me, you guys haven't want to just sit and

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Speaker 2: have a nice decanter of something and just sit with

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Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin and be like I got like forty questions

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Speaker 2: you ready, Let's go through your history here and some

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Speaker 2: of these players along the way. Just to go full

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Speaker 2: circle something you guys talked about earlier, go back to

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Speaker 2: Barkley and and when it's Dan Campbell, when we talk

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Speaker 2: about m vps and coaches, I wonder how much expectations

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Speaker 2: may mute your opportunity to win set awards because Philadelphia

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Speaker 2: was expected still to be good. Right, You've had great

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Speaker 2: success with guys like Boston Scott. Not to besmirch his name,

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Speaker 2: but he's not Saquon Barkley. Likewise, Dan Campbell, they were

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Speaker 2: one of the Super Bowl favorites. It's like, all right,

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Speaker 2: you did what you were supposed to, which is why

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Speaker 2: you look at Sean Payton or maybe a Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 2: this year a little more closely you do with it sure,

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Speaker 2: Orconnell for that matter, absolutely another team that folks say,

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Speaker 2: do you change the award?

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Speaker 7: I mean, the Coach of the Year is to me

662
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Speaker 7: is the guy that has done the most, accomplished the most.

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Speaker 7: I mean, doesn't make a difference what the expectations are

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Speaker 7: you accomplished the most. I mean Dan Campbell right now

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Speaker 7: has accomplished the most, especially with an injury riddle team

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Speaker 7: at times. I mean, come on, how could you not

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Speaker 7: give the guy the award? But you're right, I mean

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Speaker 7: the expectation factor has to be involved in voting. Where

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Speaker 7: a team comes out of nowhere and does something right.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the beauty of it, right, and you know

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Speaker 2: the larger voting process. Maybe watch it with the Heisman

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Speaker 2: or whatever else do they always get it right. It's

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Speaker 2: all a matter of public opinion. That's why that keeps

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Speaker 2: us in jobs, to guys, So the more we can

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Speaker 2: debate it all the better, especially when we come here

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Speaker 2: from the tire Rack dot Com Fox Sports Radio Studios.

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Speaker 2: It's Fox Football Sunday. He's Andy Furman, that's Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: We still have a couple more games to get to,

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Speaker 2: including one I'm trying to push.

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Speaker 3: As far as I can off the radar. Gee, Mark,

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Speaker 3: what do you think that is?

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Speaker 2: We'll do that as we continue on Fox Football Sunday.

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Speaker 8: listen live.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back in a groovy little start to your

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Speaker 2: Sunday morning here Fox Sports Radio Week fifteen. You're National

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Speaker 2: Football League season. We appreciate you being with us. Been

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Speaker 2: part of the extended family wherever you're going. No buys,

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00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 2: we're finally through all that nonsense. Fellas we had the

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Speaker 2: forty nine ers kick things off. The over under was

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Speaker 2: forty eight and a half. Still waiting for another maybe

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Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty minutes of football to get to

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Speaker 2: that point based on what we saw the other night.

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Speaker 2: But points may be in the offing for us in

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Speaker 2: a couple of these late games.

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Speaker 3: So let's get back to it.

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Speaker 1: Packers at Seahawks.

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Speaker 3: How about this one. This is fun, this is exciting.

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Speaker 2: Jordan Love nineteenth and yardage, twenty one touchdowns, eleven picks.

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Speaker 2: He will give you the opportunity they thought they were

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Speaker 2: gonna get Jay r Alexander back. It looked like it

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Speaker 2: when we did the fantasy podcast. I watch Flax, like,

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Speaker 2: all right, here we go, a couple days of practice

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Speaker 2: and then no, no, no, no, no, you're not ready yet.

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Speaker 2: So little bit of problems there in that secondary. So

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Speaker 2: we'll see what happens there. Jacob's averaging eighty one yards

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Speaker 2: per game on the ground, eleven touchdowns. Jade Reid get

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00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 2: this guy's leading receiver. He's got forty four catches. One

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Speaker 2: of those things that doesn't look like the others when

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00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: we talk about the leaders across teams. Gino at seventy

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Speaker 2: percent completion rate, fourteen touchdowns, twelve picks. He's absorbed forty

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Speaker 2: sacks on the season. Charbona, you're leading rusher again today,

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Speaker 2: thirty six catches on the year, averaging a little over

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Speaker 2: four point one yards per carry. No Kenneth Walker the

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Speaker 2: third and they got eighty nine yards for Jackson Smith

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Speaker 2: and Jigma to hit one thousand on the year.

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Speaker 3: Key to this game.

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Speaker 2: In my humble estimation, you've got a turnover differential of

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Speaker 2: nine plus nine for the Packers, tied for six best

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Speaker 2: in the National Football League forty six. Your total Packers

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Speaker 2: road favorites two and a half. We'll start with you Andy.

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Speaker 7: You know it's funny because right now the Seahawks are

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Speaker 7: eight and five and this game is gonna be like

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Speaker 7: a playoff game because they need to win today at

727
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Speaker 7: the whole position in the NFC West. Pack is coming

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Speaker 7: back from a heartbreaker last week. They lost at Detroit

729
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Speaker 7: thirty four to thirty one, and they held leads in

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Speaker 7: that game. They were winning like twenty one seventeen, They

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Speaker 7: winning seventeen to seven, they were winning twenty eight twenty

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Speaker 7: four in.

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Speaker 4: The second half. They lost that game.

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Speaker 7: I think they come back today and you look, you

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Speaker 7: talked about Josh Jacobs, the running back for the Packers.

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Speaker 7: He's got seven touchdowns in the last three games. That's

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Speaker 7: the good news. The bad news is he's averaging on

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Speaker 7: the three yards to carry and his last two games.

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Speaker 7: Can the Packers upfront block for him to get it

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Speaker 7: going today?

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Speaker 4: But I still think the Packers win. I think the

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Speaker 4: Packers win this game.

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Speaker 5: I'm with you, Andy, we gonna agree again. I like

744
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 5: the Packers. The Packers running game is everything. When we

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Speaker 5: look at Jayden Reed being the leading receiver, what it

746
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Speaker 5: tells you is with that number, they're really balanced. They're

747
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Speaker 5: really leaning into the running game. They're trying to control

748
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Speaker 5: the game with the running game and set Jordan Love

749
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Speaker 5: up for prime opportunities and favorable situations. He just has

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Speaker 5: to make sure he takes care of the ball. If

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Speaker 5: Jordan Love takes care of the ball, this game is

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Speaker 5: going to be. They have a significant advantage for the Packers.

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Speaker 6: Give me the Packers in this one.

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Speaker 2: On there's the other reason that you go to balance,

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Speaker 2: perhaps more than you would otherwise. Too many opportunities for

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Speaker 2: the opposing defense. Seahawks giving up one hundred and twenty

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00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 2: seven yards per game on the ground thus far this year.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go to one of those beautiful Monday

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Speaker 2: night games. Falcons and Raiders Yay Raiders. No Max Crosby

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Speaker 2: running around here. Bowers needs sixty seven yards to get

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Speaker 2: to one thousand, thirteen catches to get to one hundred receptions.

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Speaker 2: Feed the beast you've got. Jacoby Myers is second on

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Speaker 2: the squad. He's at seven hundred and forty three yards

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Speaker 2: a respectable year. Hey, you guys want to venture a

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Speaker 2: guest as to who the leading rusher is for the

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Speaker 2: Raiders this year?

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Speaker 3: Take musical theater.

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Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't have a wicked character in mind.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, say one of the quarterbacks, Alexander Madison.

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Speaker 2: Oh all right, so we're kind of mutating that a

771
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Speaker 2: little bit. He's got three hundred and twenty yards this year, guys,

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Speaker 2: he's the leading rusher.

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Speaker 3: That's a great It's not gonna be good for business.

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Speaker 7: No.

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Speaker 2: On the other side, Captain Kirk seventeen touchdowns, fifteen interceptions,

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Speaker 2: four the league in yards, sixty seven percent completion rate.

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Speaker 2: Bijon Robinson twenty three yards to one thousand. He's got

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Speaker 2: nine total touchdowns on the year. Both Darnell Mooney and

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Speaker 2: Drake London in range of one thousand yard receiving years

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Speaker 2: as well. They both need about one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 2: Kyle Pits, the guy that all sorts of thought pieces

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Speaker 2: go through. For a little bit of giggles, he's about

783
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Speaker 2: sixty five yards behind the receiving prowess of Ray Ray McLeod.

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Speaker 3: Let that one sit there for a second, wait for

785
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 3: it and wait for it, all right?

786
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Speaker 2: Moving on minus nine turnover differential for the Atlanta Falcons.

787
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Speaker 2: There are four teams worse in the National Football League.

788
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Speaker 2: You guys want to guess who they are?

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Speaker 6: All the teams at the bottom of the league.

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Speaker 4: Giant's got to be there, Jacksonville, Carolina.

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Speaker 2: We've got Cleveland at minus ten, the No Conscience Jameis

792
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Speaker 2: Winston Jacksonville at minus eleven, tied with Tennessee and rounding

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Speaker 2: out the league.

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Speaker 3: That's right, the Raiders minus seventy yice. There we go,

795
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Speaker 3: All right, Andy, you want to you want to run

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Speaker 3: this one first?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Falcons of Loslis four games rate is nine game

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00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 7: losing streak. You know, it's one of those things. Maybe

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Speaker 7: I would watch a movie tomorrow night instead of this game.

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Speaker 7: I always tell you this ratest quarterba. I want I

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00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 7: want to see how Desmon Ridda does because he played

802
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Speaker 7: University of Cincinnati. I want to see what he does

803
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,439
Speaker 7: with the raatest quarterback picks aid and O'Connell has heard.

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00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 7: So Desmond Ridic is distussed. We'll see what he could do. However,

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Speaker 7: Red is winning. Look at that Raiders plus four.

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Speaker 6: Wow, look at you Raiders win.

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Speaker 5: This is Look, this is last in Kirk Kirk Cousins

808
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 5: days are numbered. He knows he has to come through.

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00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 5: He's been a turnover machine the last couple of weeks. Look,

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00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 5: he's prideful. He's a multiple time pro bowler. He figs

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Speaker 5: it out. Falcons dirty birds last, and they found a

812
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 5: way to win and stay.

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00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 3: Alive in keep your hope alive.

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00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 8: All right, I did it long enough, Bears and Vikings.

815
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Speaker 3: There we go.

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00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 2: Will yeah, Viking six and a half point favorites.

817
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 3: Forty four is your total? You know?

818
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 2: Thomas Brown keeps talking about the greatness. That is what

819
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams is doing. Two hundred and fifty five pass

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Speaker 2: attempts without an interception. That's good, last two weeks. Fifty

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Speaker 2: seven yards of offense.

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Speaker 3: I'll wait for your response.

823
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 2: Well, Sam Donald twenty eight and ten sixty eight percent

824
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Speaker 2: completion rate. He has been sacked forty times this year

825
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 2: and no Darrisaw. They've still been able to move the football.

826
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Speaker 2: Aaron Jones creeping up on nine hundred rushing yards justin Jefferson.

827
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Speaker 2: This is the interesting battle within the battle. Jalen Johnson

828
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 2: one of those guys credited as perhaps ushering the end

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Speaker 2: of the eber Flus era. The last time they met,

830
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 2: Jefferson two catches, five targets, twenty seven yards. Jordan Addison

831
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Speaker 2: has had some monster games and in the first meeting

832
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Speaker 2: a lot of t J. Hockinson seven catches for one

833
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 2: hundred and fourteen yards. Hey, Roma doonesday last game for

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00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 2: the Bears had two touchdowns those first touchdown since the

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Speaker 2: twenty second of September. Yay, not the twenty first to September,

836
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 2: because then we can sing a song, Bucky Do. The

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Speaker 2: Vikings cover the six and a half.

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Speaker 5: Vikings covered the six and a half and I'm not

839
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Speaker 5: gonna say this, I'm gonna tell you to close your ears.

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00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 5: They molly wopped the Chicago Bears like they go ahead

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00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 5: and put them out their misery. After watching their performance

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00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 5: against the Niners dead man walking.

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00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, this is the Vikings to win.

844
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 2: We'll go down memory lane next hour as that echoed

845
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 2: Bears game I watched many years ago.

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Speaker 7: Andy Furman, Well, I will tell you this much. I

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00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 7: think the Vikings win, but I think it would be

848
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 7: a lot closer. I bet back in the was Week thirteen,

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Speaker 7: it was thirty twenty seven in overtime Minnesota. I think

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00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 7: it'll be a lot close, I really do. However, Aaron

851
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 7: Jones will have a day Aaron Jones, Big Jay.

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Speaker 2: I like your hopefulness. That's a long time ago. That's Andy,

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Speaker 2: Bucky and I continue next year on Fox. Greetings and

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Speaker 3: I can't do it alone.

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Speaker 2: As we do each and every Sunday, it's another hour

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Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks and myself five years in the league working

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Speaker 2: with the Jaguars coach mentor scribe NFL dot com, Foxsports

871
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 2: dot com video audio and making us all a bit smarter,

872
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 2: one bite at a time.

873
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 3: It's our guy, Bucky Brooks. Let's going on, Buddy, going on?

874
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 6: Man, how are you doing? How's life being a Bears fan?

875
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's the fun entertainment gift that keeps

876
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 2: on giving, right, hope being one of those things that is,

877
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:14,879
Speaker 2: as we always say, the Shawshank part.

878
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 3: Everybody always remembers, Hey, it's the best.

879
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 2: Oh they also warn it it's the worst because you can

880
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 2: be let down. And that's why some people retreat to

881
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 2: their bubbles and try to keep people at arms, like No,

882
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 2: I'm all about you know.

883
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 3: Look, I'm all about.

884
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,959
Speaker 2: Hugging and getting together. But I'm also a realist. Somehow

885
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 2: they found a sound by to me calling for people's jobs.

886
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 2: I don't do that often, but every once in a

887
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 2: while it's warranted. And in Chicago right now, you're calling

888
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 2: for jobs every now and again. I mean it's not

889
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 2: a brand thing. I mean I wouldn't call that. You know,

890
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 2: if you know, what do you expect from Harmon on

891
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 2: the radio. You know he's calling for everybody to get

892
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 2: ousted man once in a while. I mean, look, folks

893
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 2: do things and say things that probably warrant to some

894
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 2: sort of discipline or departures. Iber fluse things he didn't say,

895
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 2: or well, the things he tried to in press conference

896
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 2: to excuse away bad decisions that made it necessary. Now

897
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 2: you got Ryan Poles, who quite clearly is an empty suit.

898
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 2: I mean, Kevin Warren's got him sitting there at these

899
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,399
Speaker 2: press conferences, and you got these long delays. I mean,

900
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: you know, you get ten seconds to shoot a free

901
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 2: throw in the NBA if they actually call it right,

902
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 2: if you see the official just out of frame and

903
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: he's doing that thing with his arm one too. You know,

904
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 2: Jiannis and Tennekoopo a couple of years ago would be like,

905
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 2: hurry the hell up. That's what aut long it took.

906
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 2: That's how long it took Poles to answer questions when

907
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 2: they met with all of this stuff. So right now

908
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 2: it's the vote of no confidence and folks praying to

909
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 2: get to the end of the season.

910
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, look, look I feel you on that. I understand.

911
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 5: I'm more curious about who's the next coach. How are

912
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 5: they going to go about it? Are they going to

913
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 5: build a team differently, or are they going to stay

914
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 5: the course, meaning build it all around Kaylyn Williams.

915
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 6: Calen Williams is going to do everything.

916
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 5: He's gonna throw it all over the yard and knows

917
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 5: inclement conditions and do all the stuff that they look

918
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 5: to their rival of the North, their two all of

919
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 5: their rivals in the North, and see them throwing the

920
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 5: ball all over the yard and say, you know what,

921
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 5: I would like to double debts like that. I want

922
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 5: to be able to do some of the stuff that

923
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 5: they're able to do. Or are they going to try

924
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 5: and build a more balanced team that may give them

925
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 5: a chance to control the game a little more and

926
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 5: have a little more of that what I call the

927
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 5: Chicago field, a little more of that rough and tumble

928
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 5: feel to the team as opposed to the finesse team

929
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:38,959
Speaker 5: that we've seen.

930
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: All Right, Well, riddle me this batman. What position did

931
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 2: Ryan Poles play?

932
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 6: He was an offensive lineman.

933
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 2: What did they not get right at all in any

934
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 2: of the structure of this squad, including signing a guy

935
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 2: for three years thirty million dollars and then washing their

936
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 2: hands of him like he was you know, Paulie telling

937
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 2: Leoa to beat it at the of Goodfellas.

938
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, they did the offensive line.

939
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 5: No, I'm just I mean, I feel you.

940
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 2: I mean, Roman Dunesa is nice. He had a nice

941
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 2: highlight package. Guess what he can't block on the interior.

942
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 2: What was your identity a year ago? What did you

943
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 2: do really well in the National Football League? Part of

944
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 2: it attributable to your quarterback, but you ran the football? Well,

945
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 2: what have you not been able to do this year?

946
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 6: We haven't run the football very well.

947
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, three point eight yards per carry this year for

948
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 2: DeAndre Swift, Rosehawn Johnson, hurt unavailable, and at times you're

949
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 2: calling plays for offensive linemen to run the football ball

950
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 2: they can't block, But let's give him the football at

951
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 2: the goal. Oh, when you've got a guy that's perfect,

952
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 2: you know what.

953
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 5: I can't wait in shure, I can't wait for that

954
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 5: that You know how the league always does to yearly

955
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 5: highlight the yearbook. I can't wait to see where that

956
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 5: falls somewhere in the yearbook, because that debt is the

957
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 5: one that will define the met Eberflus era because man,

958
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:04,919
Speaker 5: ooh do you hate that one?

959
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 6: Well, you hate that one more than any other one.

960
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 2: But like it all plays together, right, the issues against

961
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 2: Washington and on down the line the no show effort

962
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 2: for San Francisco. I referenced it last hour, Bucky I

963
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 2: went to a game very much like that for the

964
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 2: Bears at San Francisco back in two thousand. Back in

965
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 2: two thousand, I was working at Yahoo. I'm in my

966
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 2: second year. Every once in a while, you know, someone

967
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 2: would be like, yah, I don't want to go see

968
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 2: that game, So the tickets would float up, and if

969
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 2: someone you know, I was busting my ass and you know, like, hey,

970
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 2: you know you can have the tickets this week.

971
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 3: It's your team. Cool.

972
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 2: Kate McNown led Chicago Mehrier's offense. They did not get

973
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 2: past half field or midfield. They did not pass the

974
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 2: fifty on any offensive possession, much like last week.

975
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 3: And then to add.

976
00:45:55,880 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: Insult to injury, final regular season home game of Jerry

977
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 2: ICE's forty nine ers career, but that was topped off

978
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 2: by something even bigger, and Jerry to this day, I'm

979
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,280
Speaker 2: sure is still a little salty about it. Terrell Owens

980
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 2: caught twenty balls that day.

981
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,720
Speaker 3: The highlight for me. The highlight for me is they gave.

982
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 2: Away a little flip book of the catch Bucky and

983
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 2: folks back then eBay's fairly a new invention. Folks are like,

984
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,879
Speaker 2: I don't need this clutter. So guess what Harmon did. Yeah,

985
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 2: like twenty of those mugs and over the course of

986
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 2: the years made quite a bit of money off those

987
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 2: little flip books. Still have one. I'll do a demonstration

988
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 2: of it later. But I'm like, I've seen this movie

989
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 2: before while watching that Bears forty nine Ers game last week.

990
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 2: This is shades of twenty four years ago.

991
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a tough one, man. That is unbelievable.

992
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 5: I mean, like you talk about lack of awareness, like

993
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 5: Steve Mariucci to have you don't.

994
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 2: Get twenty balls, you got Jerry Rice being carried around.

995
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 3: I still have my tickets and I want to get

996
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 3: it signed by the guys, and I'm just like, I

997
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 3: just want to see the reactions, like I want to

998
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 3: film it, Like I actually got to bring that story

999
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 3: up first show Smith that I did.

1000
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 2: He t O is one of our first guests. We

1001
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 2: had him and Warren Moon on for our first show

1002
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 2: all those years ago, and it brought brought up that

1003
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 2: game and that day, and he was he was pretty

1004
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 2: tight lipped about it, like clearly there's still something swirling

1005
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 2: in the background of that all these years later. That's

1006
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 2: so unbelievable, but showing where you can be in an

1007
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 2: NFL season, And you and I have talked about this

1008
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 2: at Fox Sports Radio for years here on this program

1009
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 2: and when you've been we've had the opportunity to work together.

1010
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 2: Of the final month of the season, you want to

1011
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 2: talk about revealing locker rooms, revealing players. We obviously had

1012
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 2: the circumstance. We talked about it a little bit with

1013
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 2: Andy last hour with Devondre Campbell, and we've got other

1014
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 2: points and data points through NFL history, But you know this,

1015
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 2: this is where you're starting to look guys auditioning for

1016
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 2: jobs and trying to put their best foot forward. And

1017
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 2: when you get no show efforts like last week, I

1018
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 2: mean that tape doesn't get burned as much as you

1019
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 2: can say it in season of Hey, we flush it.

1020
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 2: We move on to the next game. Reality is that's

1021
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 2: following you to whatever that next job is. And you know,

1022
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 2: we talk about how much turnover there is.

1023
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 3: Year to year.

1024
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 2: I mean, we'll go throughout the the NFL at this point,

1025
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 2: there's a lot of games where you're you're maybe raising

1026
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 2: the eyebrow more than you did in years past in

1027
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 2: terms of effort and dedication to finishing out.

1028
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, like, look, you want to you want

1029
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 5: to you want to finish it out the right way.

1030
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 6: You want to see if you can.

1031
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 5: I can't even say build upon something right, but you

1032
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 5: just want to make sure that you do it the

1033
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 5: right way. You give everybody is money worth. You put

1034
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 5: everything in as a professional to make sure that you

1035
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 5: go out uh with the best performance is that you

1036
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 5: that you have and that's all you can do. And

1037
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 5: that's whether you're in the mix or out of the

1038
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 5: mix as a as as a playoff team. Like each

1039
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 5: and every week you're putting things on your resume. So

1040
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 5: you just always want to make sure that you're proud.

1041
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 6: Of the things that you do. That when you had

1042
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 6: an old coach a long time ago, say.

1043
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 5: At the end of the game, you want to be

1044
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 5: able to sign, you want to put your signature on

1045
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 5: that masterpiece, and so you certainly hope it's a Picasso

1046
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 5: and not one of those local things that I would

1047
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 5: do in your art and crafts class in third grade.

1048
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 2: Well, let's be fair, though, I mean it's football is

1049
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 2: sometimes like art, and that it's all in the eye

1050
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 2: of the beholder. Right, many thought pieces about how the

1051
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 2: Chiefs are.

1052
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 3: Ready to topple over. I shrug and say they win.

1053
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 2: And given all the givens when you've got fifteen Andy

1054
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 2: Reid and a defense that can get after it. Oh,

1055
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 2: by the way, Mahomes has been more efficient with the football. Yeah,

1056
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 2: you know, Hopkins and whatever else getting healthier. But check

1057
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 2: goes back. This is his third game back. All of

1058
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:59,280
Speaker 2: that to say again today maybe one of those lookout

1059
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 2: kind of games at Cleveland. But in the end, come

1060
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 2: playoff time, who do I trust out of the AFC

1061
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 2: as much as I trust them, I don't.

1062
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 5: But you know, here's the thing about the Kansas City Chiefs,

1063
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 5: And I don't know the soccer equivalent, but it would

1064
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 5: be it would be the equivalent of a soccer team

1065
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 5: that always wins one meal. Right, it's never sexy, it's

1066
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 5: never whatever, Like they score early then they just kind

1067
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:27,919
Speaker 5: of squad. Yeah, they find a way that like, yeah,

1068
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 5: we're cool, we'll shut it out. We'll just keep winning

1069
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 5: on penalty kicks or whatever. But that's what they are.

1070
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 5: They are very comfortable in these close score games. So

1071
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 5: when everyone talks about it being luck, to me, I say,

1072
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 5: every time they win a game like that, they become

1073
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 5: more embolden. And I just remember, like growing up a

1074
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 5: Carolina basketball fan, when Dean Smith was there, they would

1075
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 5: always kind of win these games.

1076
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 6: Late.

1077
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 5: After a while, there becomes a mystique that hangs over

1078
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 5: you that the other team also feels. So I feel

1079
00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 5: like teams are playing the Kansas City Chiefs and the

1080
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 5: fourth quarter with five minutes left, they look up and

1081
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 5: they say, we're up, But man, how are we gonna

1082
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 5: find a way to lose this one? What is Number

1083
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 5: fifteen going to do to topple us? That's what the

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00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 5: Kansas City Chiefs have and for me, as the AFC

1085
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 5: runs through Arrowhead, that's what everyone has to contend with.

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00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 5: They're gonna be the number one seed, They're gonna have

1087
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 5: all their games at home in the postseason, and Pat

1088
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 5: Mahomes is shown if he gets home for the vents.

1089
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 5: They go to the Super Bowl like it or not. Man,

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00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 5: they're gonna be right there in that conversation again.

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Speaker 2: And I watched that Kansas City Chiefs holiday movie. I mean,

1092
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 2: that'll tug at the heartstrings. Let me tell you, that'll

1093
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 2: get you at Begley Junior, Dedrick Batter the guy from

1094
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 2: Office Space A. Ben Ruby, the guy that ran the

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00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 2: desk for er Megan Price, who did that show with

1096
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 2: Patrick Warburton for all those years on CBS. I mean,

1097
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 2: it's a killer cast just all the way through. And really,

1098
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:55,240
Speaker 2: it'll get you. It'll get you. I'd promise you, Bucky,

1099
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 2: You're not gonna watch it. But there's my pitch. I'm

1100
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 2: watching all sorts of random holiday movies and starting to

1101
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 2: do write ups and videos, including many of your lifetime

1102
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 2: in Hallmark ones, because we've got to I mean, everybody's

1103
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 2: done die Hard.

1104
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 3: We gotta dig a little bit deeper.

1105
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 5: But I mean it's one of the best Christmas movies

1106
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 5: out there. Die Hard in Itto, Diehards around the Great

1107
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 5: Christmas Movie, one of the greatest Christmas movies ever.

1108
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 3: Come Wow, that Batman returns m How do you like that?

1109
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 3: Going a little off the radar for that one.

1110
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got any obscure random holiday movies you'd like

1111
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 2: to chime in at Swollen Dome at Bucky Brooks at

1112
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. We'd appreciate it because we are in

1113
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 2: those you know, final twelve days of Christmas kind of thing.

1114
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 2: Be safe on the highways and byways. We appreciate you

1115
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 2: hanging out with us here. By the way, Matthew Wright

1116
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 2: was released after winning Special Teams Player the Week last week.

1117
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 2: As Harrison Butker makes his return. We talk about margins,

1118
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 2: we talk about guys who've been there, done that. A

1119
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 2: nice little boost for the Chiefs even though their Special

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00:52:58,640 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 2: Teams has still gotten the job.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's they find a way, man. They just keep

1122
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 5: finding a way to do it. And what I think

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00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 5: they've had what three or four kickers hit game winners,

1124
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 5: like some kind of interferal record in terms of guys

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00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 5: that have knocked them down when they need it.

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00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,959
Speaker 6: But Harrison coming back gives them, look, man, a huge

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00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 6: edge and that's awesome.

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Speaker 5: Matthew, right, like get the game winning and didn't get

1129
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 5: your papers a couple of days later. That's a tough one,

1130
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 5: but you got to I mean, it is what it

1131
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:28,240
Speaker 5: is when it comes to the Chiefs.

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00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 2: All I'm saying is there's a certain team coming off

1133
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 2: a buy that might need a kicker Baltimore that should

1134
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 2: probably be taking a look see there. Obviously they're massive

1135
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 2: favorites today against the Giants, But don't tell me that

1136
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 2: that isn't swirling and that wasn't two weeks of chatter

1137
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 2: there in Baltimore. I know, doing a little bit of

1138
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 2: local radio with folks there, they're wringing their hands because

1139
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 2: of the tried and true nature of what Justin Tucker's been.

1140
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 2: But again, it owes to the larger AFC picture of

1141
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 2: who am I trusting when the money's on the line

1142
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 2: at the point, and I can't even trust that guy

1143
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 2: in Baltimore. So, yeah, the Chiefs still sitting there in

1144
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,439
Speaker 2: the NFC. Whole other kettle of fish we'll get into

1145
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 2: as we get through these final weeks of the regular season,

1146
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 2: but we'd be remiss if we didn't turn our attention

1147
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 2: back to your alma mater, Bucky Brooks. Get a little

1148
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 2: bit deeper, because like, there's a lot being said, but

1149
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 2: I mean, you're in the room where it happens, so

1150
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,919
Speaker 2: we need to get your perspective at Bucky Brooks at

1151
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 2: Swollen Dome where you find us live fromthetirerac dot Com studios.

1152
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:36,520
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1154
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:43,080
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1155
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1156
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1157
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1166
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1167
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:28,360
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1168
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Speaker 2: Joker said in the Dark Night not a Christmas Movie.

1169
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 2: At Bucky Brooks where you find him, Buggy, You're Alma

1170
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 2: mater making waves. The big reception for Bill Belichick yesterday

1171
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 2: at the hoops game and all the pageantry and a

1172
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 2: lot of people doing some hand ringing, why this, why that?

1173
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 3: Whatever the report comes out.

1174
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 2: Diana Rassini, Rich Samini, I think that the next guy

1175
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 2: needs the name rhyme two. But all of that to

1176
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 2: say that Belichick reportedly reached out to the Jets one

1177
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 2: and I always wonder how much of that is the

1178
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 2: Jets trying to say, well, he liked us, we didn't

1179
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 2: like him, because you know they've got beef over a

1180
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 2: napkin from all those years ago. But you know, the

1181
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 2: decision to go to a college job not wait for

1182
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 2: the cycle would pretend to thoughts of one, he's already

1183
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 2: done the feelers, and perhaps that there was nothing, there

1184
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 2: were no bites or even hey just wait around. The

1185
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 2: other is, you don't have many college jobs still available,

1186
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 2: so if you miss out here, you're gonna sit in.

1187
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 2: As much as you may like the media and being

1188
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 2: part of the media, you're not gonna be a coach

1189
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 2: again for another year.

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00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 3: Part three, You go to the college game.

1191
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 2: Now it's isn't it really more or less the NFL

1192
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 2: the way we're operating things anymore.

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00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 5: I mean, look, the word that you hear over and

1195
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 5: over again is collaboration, collaborative process. You want everyone to

1196
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 5: be on board, you want everyone to be on the

1197
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 5: same page. I'll say this like it can be democratic

1198
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 5: in thought, but only one person can make the decision.

1199
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 5: And you can't have a straw poll and do these

1200
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 5: things when everyone is held accountable as the leader of

1201
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 5: the football program, whether it's the head coach, oral however,

1202
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 5: it is like somebody has to have the voice to

1203
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 5: set the vision, have everyone understand what the vision is

1204
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 5: and carry out the mission. That's what Bill Belichick's wanted,

1205
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 5: and that is not happening in the NFL anymore.

1206
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 6: Think about the football.

1207
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 5: Zurs that we have. If you don't have that process.

1208
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 5: I think Kyle Shanahan is one of the only ones

1209
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 5: who has that kind of power where he hand picked

1210
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 5: the general manager. He wills the hammer when it comes

1211
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 5: to the way the team is constructed. That doesn't operate

1212
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 5: anyone else. Everyone wants everyone to feel good. Bill Belichick

1213
00:57:56,280 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 5: has had a lot of success, unprecedented success being the

1214
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 5: gap where the Buck stops here. I can understand when

1215
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 5: someone has six Super Bowl rings on the mental is

1216
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 5: not willing to see it a lot of their power,

1217
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 5: particularly when the franchises or the people that are doing

1218
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 5: the hiring know nothing about winning like he does. That

1219
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 5: could be a hard thing when you're a smarter guy

1220
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 5: in the room.

1221
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Speaker 2: Well, you look at some of the franchises that are

1222
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 2: going to be looking for head coaches or we presume are,

1223
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 2: and wondering, you know, the GMS, are they getting to

1224
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:29,959
Speaker 2: hire another coach?

1225
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 3: Right? We talk about with that with the Giants.

1226
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 2: Obviously the questions about Peterson and balk there with Jacksonville

1227
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 2: and just go on down the line. What's the power

1228
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 2: structure and what do they want to do for all

1229
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 2: that success the last couple of years don't play well?

1230
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 3: And I know it's you take the long view.

1231
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 2: You've got six as a head coach, two with the Giants,

1232
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 2: and we got a little bit of pushback Smith and

1233
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 2: either's a video rolling out from the conversation we were

1234
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 2: having about this, Bucky. But you know your perspective angle

1235
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 2: from your your history with North Carolina and in the league,

1236
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 2: are is going to be be different? And so picking

1237
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 2: your brain with it. It's just the the last four years,

1238
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 2: great coach, he could still coach. The problem is he

1239
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 2: picked the guys that made him have to coach that

1240
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 2: much better. The margin for error went away. Right, You

1241
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 2: have one year with Mac Jones where he's a pro bowler,

1242
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 2: and then you hire Matt Patricia as your offensive coordinator,

1243
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 2: Like what are we doing?

1244
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I understand that, and I understand like the

1245
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 5: last few years, but I man, I can't. I think

1246
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 5: I can't think of a great coach that didn't have

1247
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 5: a peer where they struggled some Chuck Nol, Tom Landry,

1248
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 5: Don Shula, they all, yeah, but.

1249
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 2: They were all guys that were that was the coaching side. Like,

1250
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 2: I'll take Belichick as my coach. But to your point,

1251
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 2: the power structure thing still becomes a bit of an

1252
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 2: issue at this.

1253
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 5: Point, Yeah, the power structure thing can become an issue.

1254
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 5: But I will contend, like for all the people that

1255
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,439
Speaker 5: point out like the errors that he made have made,

1256
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 5: like when it comes to personnel or whatever.

1257
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 6: But he's the same guy that made Wes Welker a star.

1258
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 5: Julian Edelman, Malcolm Butler went from an undrafted player to

1259
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 5: playing really well. You think about how he resurrected Rodney

1260
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 5: Harrison and some of the other things, like you have

1261
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 5: to take the good with the bad, and look, look

1262
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 5: he didn't hit on all of them. But I will

1263
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 5: say this, they were a much better team with him coaching.

1264
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 6: Them than they are now.

1265
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 3: Well.

1266
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 5: Question, I mean like he made a team that people

1267
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 5: said were lightly regarded. I think last year they may

1268
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 5: have had five, six, seven one score losses. Yep, when

1269
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 5: they're there, Yeah, that's not always perky. And look, it's

1270
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 5: hard when you transition from a great quarterback in Tom

1271
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 5: Brady to Mac Jones and some other guys.

1272
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 6: And the coaching decisions.

1273
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, he took some risk by trying to make Matt

1274
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 5: Patricia like an offensive guy and all.

1275
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 6: Of those things.

1276
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 5: I still think when you judge him, though, you have

1277
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 5: to judge him on the body of work, and I

1278
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 5: don't know if there's anybody that has ever done it

1279
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 5: better than him. So to me, when you have a

1280
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 5: lot of coaches and it's not even a coin flip

1281
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 5: on whether you're going to hire a next coach, you

1282
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 5: would like to think that the odds of him doing

1283
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 5: it would be better than some of the names that

1284
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 5: we're gonna see because it's gonna be a lot of

1285
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 5: unproven people to have an opportunity at these jobs. And

1286
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 5: in two years we can be right back at the

1287
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 5: same conversation with those teams.

1288
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 2: Well, think about it, just from the guys that would

1289
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 2: have been hot prospects a year ago. And how quickly

1290
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 2: things change, right, Bobby Slowick in Houston, he was the

1291
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 2: next great thing, well quickly, right, And now it's.

1292
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, like how quickly?

1293
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 5: And so that's the thing that we talked about the

1294
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Speaker 5: level of consistency. Six super Bowl wins in over twenty

1295
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 5: plus years, and everyone says, yeah, but he's never done

1296
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 5: with Tom Brady. Oh you mean Tom Brady, the lightly

1297
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 5: regarded six round pick that he found the Michigan and

1298
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 5: helped him become the thing. You know, Like it wasn't

1299
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 5: like everyone was saying that Tom Brady was Paydon Manning.

1300
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:02,919
Speaker 6: And then let's also talk about that, right, because people

1301
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 6: talk about he didn't want it. Peyton Manning only.

1302
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 5: One one with the iteration, with the brain trust that

1303
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 5: he had in any opportunity several coaches that went through there,

1304
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:15,439
Speaker 5: and then the second one that he won in Denver.

1305
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:17,919
Speaker 5: We can say that it was not because of him,

1306
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 5: but in spite of him, because the defense carried him

1307
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 5: to that second ring. I just think we have to

1308
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 5: be careful because everything is like he's never won without

1309
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 5: Brady whatever, give him his flowers, like people are intimidated.

1310
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 6: I think his.

1311
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 5: Greatness, his excellence, his brilliance intimidated a lot of the

1312
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 5: people that were in the hiring process. That's why it

1313
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 5: was easy for them to dismiss him and put it

1314
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 5: on so many of the other things that look can

1315
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 5: be tied to him. But he's not the only general

1316
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 5: manager or football picker.

1317
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 6: That has missed.

1318
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 5: II look at the Giants in their struggles and building

1319
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 5: a team. So we'll see, like now he's in the

1320
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 5: college game, like there's no coming back you seventy two,

1321
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 5: seventy three, there's no coming back to the pro game

1322
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 5: at that age.

1323
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 2: Does have that one year out at just a million

1324
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 2: dollars as we talked about buyouts a little earth, I'd

1325
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 2: like to see him with this iteration of the Patriots

1326
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 2: with the quarterback they have now. And to your larger point,

1327
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 2: because this is just the overreaching and me on my

1328
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 2: soapbox that I've had for so many years in this

1329
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 2: phase because the Patriots always being dismissed at as to

1330
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 2: how bad the division was. Go back and site be

1331
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 2: all the heavyweights playing in the AFC South and the

1332
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 2: NFC South. Right, Look, I give Sean Payton and Mike

1333
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 2: Tomlin all the respect and what they're doing this year fantastic.

1334
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 2: How many they got, how many how many pelts on

1335
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 2: the wall and how long ago right to the Peyton

1336
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 2: Manning Drew Brees thing. Right, it's it's all of that.

1337
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 2: You had plenty of opportunity to go and win. They

1338
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 2: did it consistently.

1339
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 5: I mean, that's that's I mean, that's the thing that

1340
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 5: you have to talk about. You have to talk about,

1341
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 5: like how teams don't take advantage of the things that

1342
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 5: they had. Yeah, they went through it and they're walking

1343
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 5: over the AFC East and those things. But there are

1344
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 5: other people that have had plenty of opportunities to kind

1345
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 5: of enact that kind of dominance but haven't been able

1346
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 5: to do it. And then when you just look at

1347
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 5: the product. To me, I'm just saying, just look at

1348
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 5: the product.

1349
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:19,439
Speaker 6: Up in New England now compared to what it used

1350
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 6: to look like, even.

1351
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 5: When they had all those no names, outcasts, unherded players.

1352
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 6: Man, they played so much better than this version. The

1353
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 6: Crafts have never admitted. Patriots fans have never admitted.

1354
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 5: But they missed Bill, they missed Belichick, and they missed

1355
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 5: what he was doing. They may not like the gruff personality,

1356
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 5: but the longer he's the way, the more that team

1357
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 5: is going to deteriorate, and the more we're gonna appreciate

1358
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 5: what he was able to do in Foxboro.

1359
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 3: The old Randy Travis line. Ready, I'm gonna go deep

1360
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 3: in the country. They say the grass is greener on

1361
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 3: the other side. From where I stand, I can't see

1362
01:04:56,080 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 3: grass at all. And that's one to grow on all right.

1363
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 2: Week fifteen, we got a bunch of big time games,

1364
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 2: none really weighing as heavily. Actually, No, the Battle of

1365
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 2: Pennsylvania and the Buffalo Detroit games are the two that

1366
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 2: have the most eyeballs today. Still plenty of others with

1367
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 2: playoff implications. We've got the rarity of Carolina's actually favored

1368
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 2: in a game for the first time I think in

1369
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 2: thirty four games with Bryce Young and what they've got

1370
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 2: going again, development of young quarterbacks and all of those

1371
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 2: things that we talk about here. But we got into

1372
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 2: it a little bit with Andy. But let's stay in

1373
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 2: that Pennsylvania battle here, because look, Buffalo and Detroit, I

1374
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 2: think we know what we've got there. Whatever the results

1375
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 2: are of this game, we've got two teams that we

1376
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 2: put in that small little pocket of these teams can

1377
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 2: contend for a title. With Philadelphia, they're in that discussion.

1378
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 2: But we talked with Andy and had a little side

1379
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 2: conversation and picking the game of all the things that

1380
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 2: are the potential for the fracture there. And Sirianni, despite

1381
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 2: all the winning man, there's just all sorts of smoke

1382
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 2: there in Philadelphia. Meanwhile, Mike Tomlin with what this squad

1383
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 2: has been able to do, just an amazing run in

1384
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson six and one as a starter, twelve touchdowns,

1385
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 2: three picks, bringing the moon ball back. It hasn't always

1386
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 2: been pretty. I'm certainly not gonna say that right the

1387
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 2: but winning is all that matters. And Mike Tomlin, for

1388
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 2: whatever we say, year after year, they get it done.

1389
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 2: You just have to decide, you know, what's the threshold

1390
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 2: that you accept on a year to year basis.

1391
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the thing, like Mike, Mike Tomlin certainly has

1392
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 5: them in there. And I've said this multiple times throughout

1393
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 5: the show. Like anyone who has not watched Hard Knocks

1394
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 5: inside the AFC North, you're missing out on an opportunity

1395
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 5: to really gain an appreciation for what Mike Tomlin is

1396
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 5: as a leader. The other coaches are also terrific in

1397
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 5: terms of like talking to the teams and putting together

1398
01:06:56,880 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 5: game plans or whatever, but like you can appreciate Tomlin

1399
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 5: Moore in terms of like sometimes people get caught up

1400
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 5: in the word salad and the great eloquent press conferences,

1401
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 5: but man in terms as a leader, as a strategist

1402
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 5: and all those things. You can see him and press

1403
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 5: his style and his beliefs upon his team. This Pittsburgh's

1404
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 5: team is surprising because the hard decision that he made

1405
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 5: when going for Russell Wilson over Justin Fields.

1406
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 6: I was one of the ones that was like, I don't.

1407
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 5: Know, russ, I don't It has turned out to be

1408
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 5: like a great decision for them and this team has benefited.

1409
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 5: Playing the Philadelphia Eagles today though, to me, is almost

1410
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 5: like a signature game for the Stillers because if they

1411
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 5: knock off the Philadelphia Eagles in their place, you have

1412
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 5: to talk about the stillers differently than we've talked about before.

1413
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:45,439
Speaker 5: It's been a nice story, but no one has talked

1414
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 5: about them being title contenders. If they've knock off one

1415
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 5: of the more complete teams in the league. Now you

1416
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 5: have to begin to talk about the stealers in that light.

1417
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, Todd, we'd mentioned it just in the stat rundown

1418
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 3: of what you're getting from the run game and Najie

1419
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 3: Harris running hard. He's creep up towards another thousand yard season,

1420
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 3: and we can have the debates of what thousand yard

1421
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 3: seasons mean anymore. I think it's the testament to the

1422
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 3: fact that you're able to stay healthy in an NFL

1423
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 3: season that choose guys up and spits them out, which

1424
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 3: is one of the greatest attributes right availability among everything else.

1425
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 3: But for this Steelers squad, look the change from Fields

1426
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 3: to Wilson. While you give away a little in terms

1427
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 3: of what you can work with Arthur Smith and company

1428
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 3: with Fields and his ability to run man Russell Wilson

1429
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 3: puts a ball up that you can go get like.

1430
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 2: That's the thing Fields in touch as much as like

1431
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 2: he may put balls up for grabs and trust his

1432
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 2: guy's gonna go fifty to fifty, which is much to

1433
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 2: the light of George Pickens. Notice he's been quieter the

1434
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 2: last few weeks, hasn't been able to be on the

1435
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 2: field because of the injury, and he won't play this week.

1436
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 2: But just that idea of all right, I'm at least

1437
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 2: you're gonna make you and give you an opportunity to

1438
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 2: go get it, whereas justin fields at times it felt

1439
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 2: like he wanted to throw the ball through the defender

1440
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 2: as if he was playing you know it, Flash Gordon

1441
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 2: from nineteen eighty the famous football scene, you know, Flash Gordon,

1442
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 2: quarterback New York Jets in the whole you know Hall,

1443
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 2: Great Hall as they're introduced as you know, captives of

1444
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 2: Ming the Merciless, and it becomes this thing where he's

1445
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 2: whipping the ball around. It's like you're trying to throw

1446
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 2: it through guys. So you know, one of those things

1447
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 2: and learn teachable moments. But yeah, the Steelers absolutely fascinating

1448
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 2: at this point and wondering what that ceiling could be.

1449
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 2: Big test here because if it goes south for Philadelphia

1450
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 2: five and a half point favorites at home. With everything

1451
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 2: going on this week, Bucky, I mean, we may see

1452
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 2: the mutiny.

1453
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 6: M you think the mutiny, I don't think.

1454
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 3: But what do you think A. J.

1455
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 2: Brown's got if he doesn't have five targets by the

1456
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 2: end of the first quarter, you're telling me they want

1457
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:56,799
Speaker 2: to have a picture and picture on him.

1458
01:09:57,400 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 6: Oh, I mean if that he opened his mouth.

1459
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 5: And when he did that, he just created more pressure

1460
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 5: on a team that in a way had.

1461
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 6: Been flying under a radar. Now all eyes, man, you

1462
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 6: just know. Look, it's like chumming the water for TV executives.

1463
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 6: I bet when they're.

1464
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 5: Making the plan, the production plan, A let's make sure

1465
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 5: we have isolation camera on number eleven and number one.

1466
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 5: Let's see if we can get them whenever they interact,

1467
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 5: whenever there's a ball that is thrown out of bounds,

1468
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 5: let's go right to number eleven and see his reaction,

1469
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 5: and then let's go right to number one.

1470
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, it just creates.

1471
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 5: Another layer of distraction that Jalen Hurst now has to

1472
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 5: deal with that Kellen Moore has to deal with it,

1473
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 5: because now you've got to start thinking, hey man, it's

1474
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 5: been a.

1475
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 6: Couple of quarters.

1476
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 5: Need to get AJ Brown involved, And it takes away

1477
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:42,480
Speaker 5: from what they've been doing. They have been absolutely pummeling

1478
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 5: people with the running game, and now you have to

1479
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:49,480
Speaker 5: subconsciously it now enters.

1480
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 6: Your mind, like, okay, AJ, it's pounding. We need to

1481
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 6: get them a thing. But man, we're running at five

1482
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 6: yards a clip. That's what you worry about.

1483
01:10:56,720 --> 01:11:00,720
Speaker 5: Now that it has come out in AJ, brown fishness

1484
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 5: can undermine what has been a really good thing for

1485
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 5: the Eagles.

1486
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:05,640
Speaker 2: Boy, you talked about a hard knocks. I want a

1487
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 2: shot in the truck. Give me the thirty for thirty.

1488
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:09,680
Speaker 3: On monitoring game like this.

1489
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 2: All right, now it's time to go to a guy

1490
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:14,600
Speaker 2: at the news update desk. We've got a bunch of

1491
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:19,719
Speaker 2: injury news and notes. But he's actually lost sleep thinking about.

1492
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 3: A guy named Bucky. He's Isaac lohingngrind.

1493
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 9: It's true, It's true. Like I said, do I have

1494
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 9: the footballs to go the distance on this?

1495
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 5: For it?

1496
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 3: You got it? We like hercules go the distance.

1497
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 9: That that will come up just moments from now as

1498
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 9: I try to work up the footballs to indeed say

1499
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:41,760
Speaker 9: what I'm about to say about a football player and

1500
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 9: named Bucky. Right, we started with the Heisman Trophy. It

1501
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 9: was awarded on Saturday night to Colorado receiver and cornerback

1502
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 9: Travis Hunter, Boise Stayed. Running back Ashton gent finished second

1503
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 9: in the NFL. ESPN reports of candidates for the New

1504
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 9: York Jets that they are expected to interview for their

1505
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 9: general manager job will include former ten See Titans GM

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Speaker 9: John Robinson and former Washington and Philadelphia Director of Player

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01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 9: Personnel Lewis Riddick.

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01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 4: Jets.

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Speaker 9: Meanwhile, Rudolph ruled out tight end Tyler Conklin for today's

1510
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 9: game of Jacksonville due to personal reasons. But Houston Texans

1511
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 9: just announced that tight end Cad Stover underwent emergency appendectomy

1512
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 9: surgery last night. He's expected to make a full recovery.

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01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 9: And then in the understatement of the day, the Texans added,

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01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 9: quote Stover has been downgraded to out four today's game

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Speaker 9: against the Miami Dolphins, unquote just in case anybody out

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01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:35,680
Speaker 9: there was wondering.

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01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 3: Where's your intestinal fortitude?

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01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:44,919
Speaker 9: Literally it's on a table at a hospital somewhere, I suppose. Anyway, Finally,

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01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 9: this one's for you, Mike. In soccer, the kickoff of

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01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:56,879
Speaker 9: yesterday's English Ninth Division match Ninth Division between Milton United

1521
01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 9: FC and Hilltop FC was still laid because Milton United

1522
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 9: forgot to pack their socks. Someone had to race forty

1523
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 9: miles back to Milton E. Fcy headquarters to get the socks.

1524
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 9: The game delayed, wound up kicking off. It was tied

1525
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 9: one one at halftime when the referee abandoned the match

1526
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 9: due to an unruly spectator refusing to leave the field.

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01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 9: Quite a day in English ninth division soccer.

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01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 2: I gotta go find the videotape, all right, he's on

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01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:33,559
Speaker 2: the call later on part of the work here in

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01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 2: Los Angeles with the Chargers and Buccaneers at Isaac Loewell.

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01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 9: So, to be honest, Harmon and I were talking about

1533
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:43,800
Speaker 9: the matchup during our last time out in the hallway here,

1534
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 9: and I was saying how impressed I was with Tampa

1535
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:48,839
Speaker 9: Bay running back Bucky Irving, and I gotta be honest,

1536
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 9: when it's all said and done, I feel that Bucky

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01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:56,599
Speaker 9: Irving is going to be the greatest Bucky I'm sorry

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01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 9: to say in NFL history.

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01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 3: Ooh yeah, look at that.

1540
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 9: But then, oh no, here's the latest waste, here's the

1541
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 9: latest twist. I did a deep dive and it turns

1542
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 9: out there have been thirteen BUCkies in all of NFL

1543
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 9: history and as of right now you, Bucky, are the

1544
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:19,679
Speaker 9: greatest Bucky in NFL history. Bucky Irving is on pace

1545
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 9: to surpass you. But of all thirteen, right now, you're

1546
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:24,160
Speaker 9: the best.

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01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:28,520
Speaker 6: Wow. Like now there's a backup quarterback in Houston.

1548
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:30,720
Speaker 4: For a while, Yes, the Houston Oilers.

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01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:33,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, for the Houston Oilers, Bucky. I didn't know there

1550
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 6: were other BUCkies.

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01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 3: That we're gonna do deep dive on this.

1552
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:39,679
Speaker 9: We'll bring we're talking about Bucky Richardson, by the way,

1553
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 9: that's the guy you're talking about. But you're better than

1554
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 9: all You're better than the other twelve as of right now.

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01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 6: Okay, we'll take that. There.

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01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:47,800
Speaker 1: You count that.

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01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 6: I can put that. I can put it on a

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01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:49,759
Speaker 6: wiki page.

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01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:53,800
Speaker 3: Add that to the wiki page. Thanks Zyle. As we continue,

1560
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:56,679
Speaker 3: we had a big vote in college football.

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01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 2: Did they get it right? Bucky gives you his two

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01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 2: cents next year. It's Fox Football Sunday from the tire

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01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 2: Ac dot Com Studios. Hey, welcome back in It's Fox

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01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 2: Football Sunday, finishing up Week fifteen. You're National Football League.

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01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:12,599
Speaker 2: Full slate of games one already in the books. Ram

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01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:14,719
Speaker 2: it all day, ram it all night over the forty

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01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:18,639
Speaker 2: nine ers, the last Ditch efforts of the forty nine

1568
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 2: ers final weeks of the season, one percent chance to

1569
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 2: make the playoffs rams up to fifty percent. We'll see

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01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 2: what happens later on. As we roll through, Mike car

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01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 2: mc Bucky Brooks with you coming up in ten minutes

1572
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 2: from now, you've got countdown to Kickoff, presented by bet MGM.

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01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:34,800
Speaker 2: I'd be remiss, you know, we talk about the age

1574
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:37,400
Speaker 2: of the rushing quarterback, right we were just talking about

1575
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:39,759
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh and the difference of how they're running their offense

1576
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 2: fields to Russell Wilson and stuff. I'd be remiss if

1577
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:45,840
Speaker 2: I didn't bring up Arizona. Now they have a date

1578
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 2: against New England, and we got into them a little

1579
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 2: bit with the Bill Belichick conversation Bucky. But the fact

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01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:53,679
Speaker 2: that Kyler Murray's not running the football was really interesting

1581
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:56,880
Speaker 2: to me. All Right, He's only gone over twenty one

1582
01:15:57,000 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 2: rushing yards once in like the last five five or

1583
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 2: six games.

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01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 6: It is it is.

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01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:05,719
Speaker 5: One of the more remarkable things that you will find,

1586
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 5: and it is something that is very very common amongst

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01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 5: these athletic quarterbacks. And what you don't know is this,

1588
01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 5: you don't know if someone is in his ear telling

1589
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 5: Cayler like, hey, you need to at this stage, you

1590
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 5: made your money.

1591
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 6: You need to be a pocket pass.

1592
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 5: You need to avoid running the pocket to preserve your

1593
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 5: health or whatever that is. But it definitely takes away

1594
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 5: a dimension of his game that made him one of

1595
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:31,440
Speaker 5: the more dangerous.

1596
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 6: Quarterbacks that we've seen.

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01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 5: And when you don't do that and you got to

1598
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 5: be so exceptional as a pocket pass. I think it's

1599
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 5: something that Russell Wilson had to learn when he wanted

1600
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 5: to cook and he wanted to do things, and so

1601
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:43,800
Speaker 5: he was trying to prove the people that he could

1602
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:45,759
Speaker 5: deal from the pocket and all.

1603
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 6: Of those things. Lamar Jackson's mom is talking about him

1604
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:50,719
Speaker 6: and yeah, man, you need to run the ball.

1605
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 5: Quit trying to be a statue a lot of times.

1606
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 5: And you hear this all the time, like you know, athletes,

1607
01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 5: Oh I don't hear now, just don't pay attention to

1608
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 5: meet out d da da Okay, you certainly know all

1609
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 5: the comments for someone who doesn't know what we're saying

1610
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 5: about you, But that noise, man, it seeps in, man,

1611
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 5: it seeps in between your ears, and it impacts the

1612
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 5: way that you play the game. And for guys who

1613
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:16,599
Speaker 5: have those superpowers that include their legs and how they

1614
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 5: go about doing their business as dual threats. Man, just

1615
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 5: always keep the main thing the main thing, man, Play

1616
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 5: to your streams. Don't worry about all the other stuff,

1617
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 5: because if you play to your strengths and win, no

1618
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 5: one really cares, No one says anything, and if you lose, they're.

1619
01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 6: Gonna criticize you anyway.

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01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 5: So you just got to do what you believe in

1621
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 5: and what you know to be your advantages, and then

1622
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 5: you always have an opportunity to be at your best.

1623
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 3: He needs one hundred and thirty eight yards today to

1624
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 3: get to three thousand. Passing on the year.

1625
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Speaker 2: We'll do more on those accolades and milestones or whatever

1626
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:47,559
Speaker 2: else we get towards the end of the year. Some

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01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 2: interesting little news and notes as we go. Podcasts will

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01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 2: go up in a few minutes. Shay, I'll have that

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01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 2: for us. Appreciate him and Chris Purfat in the Big

1630
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:59,680
Speaker 2: Cherries waiting for the fifty five point battle Detroit and

1631
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 2: Buffalo later on this afternoon. Be remiss if we didn't

1632
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:05,679
Speaker 2: pause for a moment though the Heisman Trophy awarded.

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Speaker 3: Did they get it right?

1634
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 2: Bucky Travis Hunter wins narrow margin, narrowest in fifteen years

1635
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 2: over genty. I told Smith his Syracuse Orange underperformed because

1636
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 2: they had a tenth place Heisman guy with Kyle McCord.

1637
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:23,639
Speaker 2: But all of that to say, did we get too

1638
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 2: excited about the two way playing versus what gent performed

1639
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 2: or did they get it right?

1640
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 5: I think they got it right and it was close,

1641
01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 5: and it should have been close because both guys to

1642
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:35,959
Speaker 5: me were the best of the best at their respective

1643
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:38,679
Speaker 5: positions and the way they played. Travis Hunter gets denied

1644
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:41,640
Speaker 5: though what he did is even more remarkable than what

1645
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:44,880
Speaker 5: Charles Woodson did. Charles Woodson had splashed moments of being

1646
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 5: a wide receiver and a DP and I love Charles.

1647
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:47,679
Speaker 6: We were teammates.

1648
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 5: Travis Hunter literally played both sides of the ball and

1649
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 5: excelled at each side. He deserved him in the Heisman

1650
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 5: because he was so spectacular, and the Jim Thorpe Reward

1651
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 5: should be ashamed of not including him as one of

1652
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 5: the finalists. He was the best player in football because

1653
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:02,639
Speaker 5: he did it on both sizes of the all.

1654
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 6: He deserved it one.

1655
01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 2: I will say this, Bucky, We've got to make sure

1656
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 2: you get in Chuch with old Charles Woodson as well.

1657
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 2: The intercept wines are quite.

1658
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 6: Good, oh good.

1659
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 2: And once upon a time he did shake Jason Smith's

1660
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:17,960
Speaker 2: hand and strike terror into a man I've never seen before.

1661
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 2: He stared through his soul as if Jason had said something.

1662
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 3: That's stuck with him as a motivator. It still comes

1663
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 3: up on occasion when we get out and about I

1664
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:30,280
Speaker 3: have a good day today.

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01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 2: We'll see it again next week. Countdown to Kickoff presented

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Speaker 2: by bad MGM Next on Fox