Speaker 1: I feel like I'm like backpack wrapper level Ridge right now,
Speaker 1: does that make sense? I'm not like rapper Rapper Ridge,
Speaker 1: but I'm like me and someone who is on Ruckus
Speaker 1: Records in the nineties probably makes the same amount Like
Speaker 1: any of the niggas on sound Bombing, We probably make
Speaker 1: the same amount of money. It doesn't.
Speaker 2: Racist the.
Speaker 3: Money star stuff. I can't tell me. Bang bang bang
Speaker 3: skeet skeet skeet. There it is there, it is. Ladies
Speaker 3: and gentlemen, Welcome to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told.
Speaker 1: Me, the podcast where we dive deep, deep into the
Speaker 1: pockets of black expience theories.
Speaker 3: And we finally worked to prove that the game turning
Speaker 3: his tear drop tattoo into a butterfly tattoo into an
Speaker 3: LA logo is the first ever recorded triple down in
Speaker 3: bad decisions for face tattoos. That is, that is phenomenal
Speaker 3: shitty decision making.
Speaker 4: What about the Gucci made I would argue that Gucci,
Speaker 4: while while his his ice cream was more substantially offensive
Speaker 4: and and frankly bad compared to the game's decision making,
Speaker 4: he didn't do it.
Speaker 3: Three different times. He did anytimes he made one bad
Speaker 3: choice with the ice cream, and then he was like,
Speaker 3: I am going to do my best to make this
Speaker 3: fade over time. I have made a mistake.
Speaker 1: Here's here's my question. Do you think there's a possibility
Speaker 1: for a four down?
Speaker 3: Do you think you could see that it's tough because
Speaker 3: that la is big now it's yeah, it's pretty big
Speaker 3: compared to what it started.
Speaker 1: As it has gotten heavy. I don't think he should
Speaker 1: have played out. I don't think he should have left
Speaker 1: the butterfly. I didn't think it was that bad.
Speaker 3: You think he should have stopped that butterfly. It wasn't
Speaker 3: that terrible. It didn't feel incorrect for whatever the game
Speaker 3: was trying to be at the time.
Speaker 1: And he's like, let's be honest, he's a pretty dramatic guy,
Speaker 1: but he's a diva.
Speaker 3: He is a for sure.
Speaker 1: Do you remember I had to stop following him on
Speaker 1: Instagram because he would have those like just those dirty,
Speaker 1: dirty posts of him in like tight tight underwear with
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna be honest, I think it's probably a
Speaker 1: fake penis.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it was objectively either you have the biggest
Speaker 3: penis in the Greater Los Angeles area or or sir
Speaker 3: you've put it. You've put a hell of an egg
Speaker 3: glant inside your drawers, trying to pass it off to
Speaker 3: all of us.
Speaker 1: That was fake. I remember seeing it and being like,
Speaker 1: good god.
Speaker 3: It was the first time I respected the game. I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, whoa.
Speaker 1: No, because I was like, I was like, impossible. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he doesn't have like he doesn't have guys with a
Speaker 1: giant penis energy. No. That Yeah, it's confidence.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's confidence. Definitely feels like a man with a
Speaker 3: small like I wouldn't say small, but certainly too small
Speaker 3: for his six four frame.
Speaker 1: Right right, big huge dick. Dude. It's like kind of dumb,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like, oh, the blood
Speaker 1: is going down there. You're not like fun and the game.
Speaker 1: He's very smart.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's smart, but he's he's annoying about it, and
Speaker 3: and he's he's constantly lying to us about things that
Speaker 3: that we could easily check. And it's like, yeah, you
Speaker 3: just although he was on Change of Heart, did you
Speaker 3: ever see that he was blonde?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: No, this was way before that. This was like before
Speaker 3: he was even a successful rapper. He did that old
Speaker 3: game show Change of Heart. They used to be on
Speaker 3: upn and he was just a nice man who him
Speaker 3: and his girl went on the show. For those that
Speaker 3: don't remember the premise, the deal was you you go
Speaker 3: on the show with your significant other and then they
Speaker 3: send you out on separate dates with a new person,
Speaker 3: and then you come back and decide if you want
Speaker 3: to stay with the person you've you came with or
Speaker 3: you have quote unquote a change of heart and you
Speaker 3: start dating the other individual.
Speaker 1: What happened to him? Did he get change of hearted?
Speaker 1: He did?
Speaker 3: So the game goes out on this date. They always
Speaker 3: set you up with a bad bitch who was like
Speaker 3: fucking gorgeous and cool and spends the whole time being like, Hey,
Speaker 3: I think your penis would take the best in my mouth,
Speaker 3: and I don't know why your girl doesn't feel that way.
Speaker 3: I'm a perfect Yeah, you're I can. If I could
Speaker 3: fit it in here, I would suck it further forever.
Speaker 3: And so the game goes out with the girl. They
Speaker 3: have a sexy time, and his girl goes out with
Speaker 3: the guy. They have a sexy time, and then she
Speaker 3: comes back and she says she wants to have a
Speaker 3: change of heart. After he goes I want to be
Speaker 3: with my lady.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's the worst.
Speaker 3: Outcome again, A penis that that is forgettable, at the
Speaker 3: very least for for a lady that was willing to
Speaker 3: go on TV.
Speaker 1: With the game. Yeah, if he was doing that, she
Speaker 1: wouldn't even go down there.
Speaker 3: No change the art, motherfucker. You have a rare artifact
Speaker 3: trapped in your Pantsiana Jones Penis, Yeah, this is you know,
Speaker 3: you know, sloths used to be like six ft feet tall.
Speaker 3: This is like, this is like a different era of
Speaker 3: an that.
Speaker 1: Man has a different a different time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is prehistoric, big dog. If that's what we're
Speaker 3: talking about, I'm not gonna give this up.
Speaker 1: That ship is so big it looks like it could
Speaker 1: be the result of some kind of a black magic curse.
Speaker 3: Right, like you wish to be a world famous rapper.
Speaker 3: And then the Witch was like, but I'm cursing you
Speaker 3: with the big pigenis And he's like, but that's fucking awesome,
Speaker 3: and she's like, no, no, no, no, not the way,
Speaker 3: not the way I plan on hitting you.
Speaker 1: Did he dial it back? Does he still do that?
Speaker 1: I don't follow him anymore because.
Speaker 3: I'd never followed. I was tracking the game. I knew
Speaker 3: that would that was a mistake.
Speaker 1: Hey, I liked it. I liked that first album, man,
Speaker 1: I did like it.
Speaker 3: I mostly for updates of the game. Actually see him
Speaker 3: getting in fist fights and at Drew League videos. That's
Speaker 3: that's the most common time I see the game is
Speaker 3: him playing in the Drew League, which I guess he
Speaker 3: thinks he's talented enough to keep up with like you know,
Speaker 3: fucking Trey Young when he's bored during the summer. I mean,
Speaker 3: he's tall, but he's also like thicker than he used
Speaker 3: to be, and he ain't moving and I think part
Speaker 3: of the reason he's and that heavy heavy penis uh
Speaker 3: he has to wear Allen iverson size shorts just to cover.
Speaker 1: Two pairs of compression short song.
Speaker 3: But but he's constantly getting in fistfights at these league
Speaker 3: games because somebody sets a pick on him and then
Speaker 3: he's like ready to square up.
Speaker 1: Would you if it was offered, would you play? Uh?
Speaker 3: Again, No, because I'm afraid, well you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: Like I what I my absolute nightmare is. I'm now
Speaker 3: a part of a video where they're like, damn, this
Speaker 3: up and coming player just went the fuck off for
Speaker 3: sixty eight points and it's nothing but me guarding him
Speaker 3: the whole time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you don't want I understand, because that's like,
Speaker 1: that's tough to come back from. You're gonna have your
Speaker 1: wife and kid in there. You don't need that.
Speaker 3: Bro. If he's just saucing on me, and then there's
Speaker 3: one video of me like going up for a layup
Speaker 3: and he just even watks it out. Yeah, it's like, ah, no, man,
Speaker 3: I'm there's too much at steak here.
Speaker 1: I've often thought getting posterized is probably the worst thing
Speaker 1: that could ever happen to a person.
Speaker 3: You've never been dumped on?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I never not like, not like
Speaker 1: in a major way.
Speaker 3: No good for you. Yeah, I see it in your
Speaker 3: eyes that you have. I've been I've seen it all.
Speaker 1: Baby. What is that feeling of?
Speaker 3: Like, what what's the lowest low you know of? What's what?
Speaker 3: How what's the depth of your bad decision making?
Speaker 5: Ah?
Speaker 1: I did a set one time with my my zipper
Speaker 1: down and you can see my penis for most of.
Speaker 3: It was this that going good was it was it.
Speaker 1: It was an open mic, so it was like one
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Oh, so this was like a bad decision stacked on
Speaker 3: the worst outcome. Yeah, man, fuck yeah, that's that's what
Speaker 3: getting dunked on feels like. I bet, I bet they're
Speaker 3: comparable feelings.
Speaker 1: When they dunked on you, was it like did you
Speaker 1: feel the nuts on the shoulder? No, it wasn't.
Speaker 3: It wasn't a nuts on shoulder level dunking. I was more.
Speaker 3: I was closer to the chest, so I was going
Speaker 3: up thinking I had a shot. Oh it, And in
Speaker 3: that way it made it worse, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: where it's like, oh, if I could stop this, or
Speaker 3: because I've never been able to dunk, but I I'm
Speaker 3: a pretty good defender, and so I thought, oh, I
Speaker 3: could stop this early before it makes it all the
Speaker 3: way up. And that motherfucker was bouncier than me and
Speaker 3: somehow had jets in his little feats and and god damn,
Speaker 3: just ate me alive.
Speaker 1: I would worry about the sound I would make if
Speaker 1: I got dunked on. Well, that's the thing that's so
Speaker 1: that would come out of me, like I don't know,
Speaker 1: like what did you get dumped on?
Speaker 2: You?
Speaker 3: Like no, Like that's that's my big worry, Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't remember what I think. I think it's one
Speaker 3: of those hollow sounds that uh that you know after
Speaker 3: a bomb, where it's just that that screech, that's that's
Speaker 3: probably what I heard after. I don't like what came
Speaker 3: out of me. Yeah, and I was playing point guard
Speaker 3: and and so another person had to see me get
Speaker 3: dunked on, take the ball out and then choose to
Speaker 3: pass me the ball. But yeah, no, what kind of
Speaker 3: leader am I?
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm bringing it up now.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like no, no, no, no, watch how I distribute. Sure,
Speaker 5: I got dumped on, but I also know three plays.
Speaker 1: I'm the only true general out here.
Speaker 3: It's like, no, this is I gotta go home. Man,
Speaker 3: you gotta take me out.
Speaker 1: Coach. Yeah, that's a tough thing to have happened to you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's hard. We I don't I think we've
Speaker 3: we've introduced ourselves. I don't know that we we've done
Speaker 3: any formal work here. I I'm Langston Kerman. And if
Speaker 3: you've made it this far, you knew that. And and also, uh,
Speaker 3: if you if you didn't know that, what the fuck
Speaker 3: is wrong with you? Why would you stick around this long?
Speaker 3: What could you possibly affect this place? Cast was gonna
Speaker 3: be about with all that kid. We dropped into the
Speaker 3: game talk early. Yeah, this isn't even what our show
Speaker 3: is about, but we made we made hard fastened choices
Speaker 3: right away.
Speaker 1: I'm worried that he's gonna hear it.
Speaker 3: Oh the game. You think he's a listener.
Speaker 1: I think he's dramatic enough to somehow have found it.
Speaker 3: I will say I definitely think the game has Google
Speaker 3: alerts for the game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, Olivia, don't put the game in is.
Speaker 3: Let's let's unpack this. Are you? Is your fear of
Speaker 3: the game that like that he'll retaliate with violence or
Speaker 3: is it? Where where are you in the game?
Speaker 1: I just don't want to be out like a smoothie
Speaker 1: king and you know he catches me or some ship.
Speaker 3: Okay, so it's not that he'll hunt you down, but
Speaker 3: that like but.
Speaker 1: Sometimes in Los Angeles. I'm in Los Angeles, Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: in game type places, you know, shocks restaurant in LA
Speaker 1: maybe on my face, and then it's like then the
Speaker 1: game's like, what's that shit? She was talking about my dick?
Speaker 1: And then it's like, oh man, he'll probably be with
Speaker 1: whack one hundred, And then I for struck, couldn't fight
Speaker 1: the game and whack one hundred.
Speaker 3: Damn Okay, I see that. He seems like, yeah, he'd
Speaker 3: he'd wait to fight you in a very public place.
Speaker 1: Ye.
Speaker 3: And to your point, he is still a big motherfucker
Speaker 3: who picks his opponents wisely.
Speaker 1: I'd have to the only the only thing I could
Speaker 1: do is I'd have to either I'd have to hit
Speaker 1: him first, because then it's like, you know, the video
Speaker 1: of me getting beat up is like, yeah, but he
Speaker 1: got him, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Now you gotta hit him in those giant fucking nuts.
Speaker 1: I gotta grab a belt loop and jump up and
Speaker 1: just give into.
Speaker 3: And let that mouth like a crumble, and and you'll
Speaker 3: be a bad guy. The internet would be like, that's corny.
Speaker 3: You punched him in the dick. But it's like, nah,
Speaker 3: but where else are you gonna punch it?
Speaker 1: The game? Yeah, that's his power source.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the one thing that he has going for,
Speaker 3: which is that that massive prehistoric dick.
Speaker 1: There are there are rappers I think I can fight.
Speaker 1: I just don't think the game is one. He's very Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, lil UZI has been beat up enough times that
Speaker 3: I feel I feel absolutely confident that I if I.
Speaker 1: Could pick you up. I feel good about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I like, if I could
Speaker 1: just like grab.
Speaker 3: You yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Or if it's like or if it's like if you're
Speaker 1: fit enough for me to like get my arms down
Speaker 1: and then like pick up and like bomb that I
Speaker 1: feel then I feel okay. But anybody bigger than that, it's.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I'm always impressed with uh with NBA fights
Speaker 3: because oftentimes the guys are so vastly different in height.
Speaker 3: Like the other day, Austin Rivers got in a fight Mobamba.
Speaker 3: It was like, hey, he's so much bigger than you
Speaker 3: and you you're just riding off of Austin Rivers confidence
Speaker 3: to face off and he's a bad fighter.
Speaker 1: He didn't look good at all. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: the fighting isn't some skill, right. How many rappers? How
Speaker 1: many rapper boxing videos have we seen where you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: ship a.
Speaker 3: Chance, Yeah, When then you see Meek Mill practice and
Speaker 3: you're like, oh, beat the funk out of me. Look, man,
Speaker 3: I get it, you so coked, but I beat your ass.
Speaker 1: Nigga. Man, he is a weird guy that he's.
Speaker 3: A He's a fucking weirdo and not in an affectionate like,
Speaker 3: oh what an artist kind of way.
Speaker 1: You know, he's like that weird French fights in the
Speaker 1: pool ship Like I don't know what he's like, what
Speaker 1: are you doing?
Speaker 3: What's your playing? How'd you get so rich?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I don't. I think we highly overestimate how much a
Speaker 3: lot of rappers make and have, and I think it's
Speaker 3: safe to say you are you are doing? Like I've
Speaker 3: heard numerous sort of like suggestions that blue faces like broke,
Speaker 3: and it's like, yeah, I think I think that's more
Speaker 3: rappers are like that than they are not.
Speaker 1: I saw him at La X one time. He definitely
Speaker 1: got on the plane and last, and that's like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe you don't have status with Southwest you
Speaker 1: a lot like get your diamond medallion up, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, I'm platinum baby.
Speaker 3: It's uh, yeah, it feels like to have money, you
Speaker 3: at least have status on airlines. And if you don't,
Speaker 3: then something has happened. Either you bought this ticket literally
Speaker 3: five minutes ago, or or you ain't as rich as
Speaker 3: we all presumed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he was dressed really nice, but yeah, and
Speaker 1: he had a Louis bag. But yeah, got on the
Speaker 1: plane last fun.
Speaker 3: Well, we we wish Blue Face the best. You know,
Speaker 3: that nice man who there's no other reason to criticize
Speaker 3: besides uh his struggling, uh financial situation.
Speaker 1: Hey, bunch down, you know what I mean, Academic City's
Speaker 1: gonna buy your house.
Speaker 3: I don't know you're going you're you're doing a lot
Speaker 3: and you're going through a lot. So so I hope,
Speaker 3: I hope it's all paying off for you, Blue Face.
Speaker 1: It's complicated to be a rapper.
Speaker 3: It's it's very complicated to be a rapper. It's even
Speaker 3: more complicated to be uh, I guess a crip rapper.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Uh. We we have a conspiracy theory that you and
Speaker 3: I talked about ahead of time. We were discussing the
Speaker 3: possibility of this being a real thing. But the conspiracy
Speaker 3: we talked about is my mama told me the NFL
Speaker 3: is scripted. Scripted now, yeah, full script now. It's worth
Speaker 3: noting this has been sort of a viral conversation on
Speaker 3: Twitter for a few days now, but it specifically comes
Speaker 3: from an interview with Arian Foster, who went on a
Speaker 3: podcast and said exactly this, that the NFL is scripted,
Speaker 3: that it's completely made up that in fact, the entire
Speaker 3: premise of practicing and and sort of like all the
Speaker 3: sort of like preseason fucking like camps and shit, is
Speaker 3: just dedicated to these people learning their quote unquote lines
Speaker 3: and positions blocked so that they can help the script
Speaker 3: come to be.
Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't even think about this until just now.
Speaker 1: But here's thing number one. Right, people go to practices.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, wait, but there's children there. There's all kinds
Speaker 1: of people.
Speaker 3: And in fact, the NFL, I think, is the only
Speaker 3: sport that does that where you're like, yeah, come watch
Speaker 3: us practice, you can.
Speaker 1: Watch the whole thing. We'll sign some balls. It's a
Speaker 1: good time for the kids. So that's already stupid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1: That Bro's an idiot.
Speaker 3: They make the practice facilities like fucking like hubs in
Speaker 3: the cities and shit, like, yeah, you gotta go down
Speaker 3: to the fucking to this spot so that you can
Speaker 3: watch Tom Brady stretch.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, shout out to dub Valley in Denver.
Speaker 1: It's it's major. Yes, that's the one thing. Also, I
Speaker 1: because I do think that there is I do think
Speaker 1: that there is a case for this idea.
Speaker 3: I think that he's lying. Whoa say more.
Speaker 1: I think that if you were going to script the
Speaker 1: entire NFL, you would not need Arian Foster's input. Like
Speaker 1: people's lives are just gonna have drama that plays out them,
Speaker 1: plays out in them anyways, right, Like so I think
Speaker 1: it's like you gotta talk to Tom Brady, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, You gotta talk to the Malmes, You gotta
Speaker 1: talk to everybody in Philly. But like, do you have
Speaker 1: to talk to I don't think. I don't think it
Speaker 1: would be that the rookies don't know about that ship.
Speaker 3: You know you're saying, you're saying, if your impact is
Speaker 3: not substantial enough, you don't need a script. You just
Speaker 3: need to uh to show up and let the true
Speaker 3: script script ease handle their business.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. It's like it's like with like it's
Speaker 1: like with it's like with basketball, where it's like yeah,
Speaker 1: point shaving. It's not like it's never a whole team.
Speaker 1: It's just like two guys.
Speaker 3: Right, and they just have to have enough impact on
Speaker 3: their own to make the shit happen.
Speaker 1: They don't.
Speaker 3: Everything else is is whatever.
Speaker 1: Cause he's like also like because then he's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: the script writers so then how big is this? Is
Speaker 1: this a sag after gig or you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you're talking directly with the writers. You for six eight
Speaker 1: forty you were talking directly.
Speaker 3: Writers, And that's That's also something that felt a little
Speaker 3: challenging for me in this this whole thing is that like, look,
Speaker 3: I've been in writers rooms where like the star decides
Speaker 3: to pop in, they never help, do you know what
Speaker 3: I mean? Like it truly makes shit way worse when
Speaker 3: the person who's famous wants they go, well, I don't
Speaker 3: know what if I like jump over the nigga and
Speaker 3: uh yeah, and don't don't the full ball through the
Speaker 3: goal post. And it's like, hey, dog, that's not we
Speaker 3: ain't even that's not what we're doing here. We're just
Speaker 3: trying to get the third down, big dog.
Speaker 1: We don't. I wrote I wrote for an award show
Speaker 1: with with the famous host who was a quarterback, and
Speaker 1: he just wanted to make fun of Danica Patrick the
Speaker 1: whole time in a way where it helped personal. Like
Speaker 1: he'd leaves and then we'd like it'd be after lunch,
Speaker 1: you'd come in and he'd be like, so I'm thinking
Speaker 1: about this, Danni Ka Patrick situation.
Speaker 3: They're like, what, well, no nobody wants to talk about
Speaker 3: danic Ka, Patrick big Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, famous people haven't come in with good ideas.
Speaker 1: I get it because you you know, your feelings are
Speaker 1: hurt because you're not in the league anymore.
Speaker 3: I understood, Yeah, you're building these personal vendettas that would
Speaker 3: have been resolved if you could still just like focus
Speaker 3: on a game ahead of you. But now it's like, no,
Speaker 3: I will I will make Danica Patrick my super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because like, oh so, what was he trying to like,
Speaker 1: what was he trying to accomplish with it? Like, I
Speaker 1: also have the idea. I don't like the idea that
Speaker 1: if the NFL has always been scripted, you were the
Speaker 1: first one in this whole once in Super Bowl fifty
Speaker 1: four or some shit, you were the first one to
Speaker 1: ever drop this knowledge.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's that's uh. And we've talked about this a
Speaker 3: few times on the podcast. I think that's always the
Speaker 3: challenge with conspiracy theories, especially ones of this scale, is
Speaker 3: like it would require a level of like complicit silence
Speaker 3: on the part of a lot of people who have
Speaker 3: been fucked over by this league. Frankly, back half times
Speaker 3: that like you. For them not to have said anything
Speaker 3: would be crazy. For Colin Kaepernick to not have come
Speaker 3: up and been like, hey, it's scripted, by the way
Speaker 3: at this point, would be impossible.
Speaker 1: What about major injuries? What about old boy? You think
Speaker 1: he started the season? They're like, you're gonna die on
Speaker 1: the field.
Speaker 3: That will bring you back?
Speaker 1: You were back though, but like that's in, that's a
Speaker 1: new contract. Like what are you talking.
Speaker 3: About, and you'll never play again by the Yeah, this
Speaker 3: is you're from the game of football for what like is.
Speaker 1: Now how you said basketball, I'd have been like, of
Speaker 1: course the NBA. Everybody knows that.
Speaker 3: So the NBA that makes perfect sense. Well, I I
Speaker 3: will say that that we need to take a break.
Speaker 3: We have a break coming up. But I'm excited to
Speaker 3: find out exactly all of your thoughts on the NBA
Speaker 3: rigging and or more on the NFL scripting. We're gonna
Speaker 3: take a break. It'll be back with more likes, the more,
Speaker 3: David and more. My mama told me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, b yeah, we are back discussing whether or not
Speaker 2: professional sports is rigged.
Speaker 1: Football I think we've debunked. But I will say basketball it's.
Speaker 3: Always I tell me more because because I love because
Speaker 3: we're not just talking rigged, rigged, you're saying that that
Speaker 3: basketball is scripted, level rigged.
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's rigged. I think it's
Speaker 1: there are the teams who are supposed to do what
Speaker 1: they do. I think that there's often marketing campaigns around
Speaker 1: those things. You know what I mean? You remember Little
Speaker 1: Penny saying, Kobe Lebron, Kobe Lebron, Like, what am I
Speaker 1: supposed to think about that? There's clearly like there's clearly
Speaker 1: like especially David Stern like, I I just feel like
Speaker 1: if there's not if the if it's not rigged, there
Speaker 1: are ways that they would like it to work out
Speaker 1: that they do their best. Yeah to specifically two thousand
Speaker 1: and nine, the West Conference Finals. They weren't ready for,
Speaker 1: you know, a team of unsung heroes Denver Nuggets. They
Speaker 1: weren't ready for that. They weren't ready for a tiny
Speaker 1: man like Earl boykends off the bench with the ring.
Speaker 1: They can't have that. They can't have that. Kenyan Martin
Speaker 1: was a menace. He had lipstick tattooed on his neck.
Speaker 1: They couldn't have that. So they had to give it
Speaker 1: to who Kobe because that was all calls.
Speaker 3: I I feel like everybody has a Kobe example of
Speaker 3: the rigging that hurt them the most, mine personally being
Speaker 3: the Sacramento Kings of whatever the fuck year that was.
Speaker 3: But that early two thousand Sacramento Kings with Chris Coover
Speaker 3: and Doug Christie and all them, and I was like,
Speaker 3: this is this is the greatest team ever? Simple and
Speaker 3: they were. They were they were torn asunder by Robert Orry.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: It's ship like that. Doesn't it make sense?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I definitely am am a hurt man as you are are.
Speaker 3: We actually talked about this exact subject, or at least
Speaker 3: a version of this subject with Tone Bell last may
Speaker 3: I want to say if I'm remembering correct, and Tone
Speaker 3: believed that the NFL and NBA were rigged, and we
Speaker 3: talked specifically. In the research sort of found that a
Speaker 3: lot of what people suggest is is that it's not
Speaker 3: so much scripted in the way that Arian Foster is suggesting,
Speaker 3: but these leagues do have biases in wanting certain stories
Speaker 3: to be able to happen. So it's not so much
Speaker 3: them giving a fuck if one team wins a championship
Speaker 3: or not, but they do give a fuck whether or
Speaker 3: not like that that hero's tale happens from beginning to end.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that they I think that there's
Speaker 1: you know, there's obviously only so much impact that you
Speaker 1: can have. Like that's why I feel like it's not scripted,
Speaker 1: because every now and then you'll see a guy go rogue,
Speaker 1: saying like like Westbrook on that one, that was like
Speaker 1: he wasn't supposed to do that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Lynsanity is a do going rogue.
Speaker 1: Cohen rogue that was not supposed to That was not
Speaker 1: supposed to happen at all at all at all.
Speaker 3: So it's like and they marketed it, they went like,
Speaker 3: oh fuck, we can make a bunch of money off
Speaker 3: of this, so they bought into it very quickly. But no,
Speaker 3: that wasn't like they whoever Adam Silver didn't start there.
Speaker 3: I think it was still David stern In. But but
Speaker 3: whoever was in charge at the point didn't go like
Speaker 3: and this year, we're gonna have an Asian dude, No,
Speaker 3: the greatest player on the planet for for four weeks.
Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds insane what you're saying. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: like nobody could have seen that.
Speaker 3: He'll be six five and uh and and petit and
Speaker 3: we're gonna make him the literal greatest player on the
Speaker 3: planet for a month, and then somehow it never comes back.
Speaker 3: He'll never have even a moment the one he had
Speaker 3: so strange.
Speaker 1: It's also like, and I mean, I go back to
Speaker 1: my team, like I have for years felt that the Nuggets,
Speaker 1: despite themselves, were just always supposed to be a second
Speaker 1: class team. You think you think the NBA was ready
Speaker 1: for Jokic Nikola Joki is an MVP. I love him
Speaker 1: right ugly it's basketball like, it's all ugly until the
Speaker 1: pass is caught goes in.
Speaker 3: The passes are phenomenal in that it looks like he
Speaker 3: drops the ball every time, like he's fucking up, and
Speaker 3: then it ends up being the most amazing pass that
Speaker 3: you could have imagined.
Speaker 1: He plays like mister magoo, you know what like he
Speaker 1: plays He plays basketball like mister McGoo walking through a
Speaker 1: fucking conception.
Speaker 3: And all his manisms are are super fucking European.
Speaker 1: Oh not so tired all the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's rubbing his head weird and shit, and
Speaker 3: you're like, I'm not sure this man should be allowed
Speaker 3: on this court. I don't think he's I think they're
Speaker 3: gonna bully him, but then he's like, now watch this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, come to find out you know what it is.
Speaker 1: It's like, did you see that new Eddie Murphy movie?
Speaker 3: You people?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, shots?
Speaker 3: Everybody shut you know, Sam jay Is went crazy, But yes,
Speaker 3: you people.
Speaker 1: But when Jodah Hill played basketball and you're like, there's
Speaker 1: no way, and then even looking at it, it looked bad.
Speaker 1: But the shots got knocked down. That's yeah.
Speaker 3: It was very garbage basketball and it was clearly written
Speaker 3: with the intention of a better basketball player having having
Speaker 3: played this part they wanted. You know, Harrolson, you.
Speaker 1: Don't think he would have wrote that. I bet he
Speaker 1: wrote that for himself.
Speaker 3: I would I think he did write it for himself.
Speaker 3: But I think that's ego, baby. I don't think that
Speaker 3: that's I don't think that he was like, basketball is
Speaker 3: my best sport. I think he was like, what's black
Speaker 3: that I can do? I fake basketball?
Speaker 1: Wait till I do a reverse. Guess who's coming to
Speaker 1: dinner and it's just going to be me hitting home
Speaker 1: runs on these bitch ass white boys. I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: to the park and just have chewing tobacco and just yeah,
Speaker 1: do white people play pick up baseball? I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think that's of the fifties
Speaker 3: when stickball existed, and.
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, it feels like it would be more of
Speaker 1: a Dominican thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have, they have record like, they have very
Speaker 3: sort of like leagues. They have sort of like real games,
Speaker 3: but they don't just like hit the driveway and practice
Speaker 3: baseball and shit. No, I don't think so, not anymore.
Speaker 3: Maybe they do, I mean with kids obviously, but not
Speaker 3: grown men sitting and being like, hey, let's go. They
Speaker 3: play softball though, I think they play softball. Okay, I
Speaker 3: think some boys will get together and throw a big
Speaker 3: old softball at each other.
Speaker 1: But yeah, to all that, I say that, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think the NBA is rigged. I don't think the NFL
Speaker 1: is also too many variables right right, It's like it's
Speaker 1: or no, the NFL is not enough variables, meaning meaning
Speaker 1: that I think the longer, the longer the season, the
Speaker 1: more games and stuff like that. Or oh, I guess
Speaker 1: that would be easier to write because there's not that many.
Speaker 3: Games, right, yeah, I mean sixteen games per team, that
Speaker 3: that you hire a writing staff for each team and.
Speaker 1: What do you think the writing staff's like ten, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gotta be.
Speaker 3: It's gotta be a big room, I think, because fifty.
Speaker 1: Two players and coaches have coaches also have their own
Speaker 1: dramas and shit going on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you have to really like be you have
Speaker 3: to be thinking for enough positions and like strategizing with
Speaker 3: the the other teams as well. Like it, there has
Speaker 3: to be cross pollination. You can't just write your side
Speaker 3: of the ball, right, I mean right, so it it
Speaker 3: feels like a pretty massive undertaking that that doesn't even
Speaker 3: seem possible.
Speaker 1: Frankly, Yeah, I don't believe it.
Speaker 3: Because football is more possessions than it is even fucking
Speaker 3: like minutes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly. Just the pace of the game. It's
Speaker 1: really hard to dictate too, Yeah, like yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: just don't and and I just don't. Football still has upsets.
Speaker 1: I feel like in my lifetime of sports, I've seen
Speaker 1: more major upsets in football than I have in basketball. Right,
Speaker 1: Basketball usually who you think is gonna win wins. Yeah.
Speaker 3: There, you know, it's a much harder thing to have
Speaker 3: a major upset in basketball. But some of that also
Speaker 3: is that football is one and done and so it's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: if these dudes, you know what I mean, it's one
Speaker 3: and done and it's really about smash into each other.
Speaker 3: So like, if I just show up with the wrong
Speaker 3: energy for for getting smashed, I'm I'm gonna lose and
Speaker 3: I can't do nothing about it kind of thing, right right,
Speaker 3: Whereas like basketball, if I you know, if I got
Speaker 3: drunk the night before and have a bad game, I
Speaker 3: get like six more chances to fix.
Speaker 1: I mean, they said Alan Irison did it all the time. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I still I still love his nuggets heres though I
Speaker 1: wouldn't take back a single minute.
Speaker 3: Really because they didn't do anything for you.
Speaker 1: Guys, I take that back. It was just cool that
Speaker 1: he was here, but it was also like you could
Speaker 1: tell he wasn't like here, you know what I'm saying, Like, no,
Speaker 1: he was.
Speaker 3: His heart had moved on from the NBA by that.
Speaker 1: Point, and nobody ever hangs out here when they're pro
Speaker 1: like are pro like mellow. It was like he was
Speaker 1: gone whenever he could be like people aren't just like.
Speaker 3: And it was the wrong group of guys to surround
Speaker 3: him with if you needed him to like buy into
Speaker 3: a a system and or even like the premise of
Speaker 3: playing yeah all the way.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It was like fucking j R. Smith and and Kenyan
Speaker 3: Martin and Carmelo Anthony and it's like, yeah, well of
Speaker 3: course he's not gonna pay attention.
Speaker 1: No, no, no no, and they're all everybody was on
Speaker 1: their way out kind of. So it was like a
Speaker 1: team that you could feel. Listen, that's not the point.
Speaker 3: It wasn't George Carl your coach by.
Speaker 1: Then, Yes, George Carl was our coach.
Speaker 3: And what a deeply racist man that is. Nobody was
Speaker 3: feeling encouraged and or motivated by George Carl.
Speaker 1: I mean, George Carl looks racist.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he proves it.
Speaker 1: Boy, he's got that. He's got that face with like
Speaker 1: no lips like that, Like no, the smaller the lips,
Speaker 1: the more I think you're gonna say it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And for a while he had like no hair
Speaker 3: on top and like long in the back, and it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: you're a wild guy, George Carl.
Speaker 1: You hate that because that's starts with the Cave. These
Speaker 1: are all.
Speaker 3: Well, I think there are some last names of the
Speaker 3: Cave that are pretty cool and.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you're black, though I know I'm not saying you.
Speaker 3: Half my family ain't. And are they racist, all of them?
Speaker 3: Some of them are, They don't. None of it is
Speaker 3: rooted in as much a hatred but a fear if
Speaker 3: if it.
Speaker 1: Is, yeah, I think I have some in my family.
Speaker 1: It's more hatred based. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Ours was just I ain't never been around that, and
Speaker 3: that scares me. So I'm gonna, I'm gonna, you know,
Speaker 3: do what Hihuahua's doing and yap and nip kind of ship.
Speaker 1: I was just like, why is he following me in
Speaker 1: the grocery store?
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's like he's not. This is just a groceries.
Speaker 1: Everybody in there.
Speaker 3: So in the in the the research that I did
Speaker 3: for the tone Bell of it All, and I'm glad
Speaker 3: you brought up the NBA because there are a few
Speaker 3: specific examples that people point to when they talk about
Speaker 3: like sort of these hero stories getting out of hand
Speaker 3: or at least becoming a little too pointed for us
Speaker 3: to be able to deny some of the the fucking,
Speaker 3: you know, the writing as it were. One of the
Speaker 3: examples they bring up is the two thousand and five
Speaker 3: New Orleans Hornets, where they they go from basically being
Speaker 3: one of the worst teams in the league to then
Speaker 3: like having like this historic rise and part of it
Speaker 3: is sort of like wanting to link it with the
Speaker 3: narrative of Katrina and the city coming back to life
Speaker 3: so that you can rebuild finances.
Speaker 1: New Orleans.
Speaker 3: Yeah, New Orleans needed it for both their their own
Speaker 3: personal like emotional well being, but also literally they needed
Speaker 3: the win to be able to like restore this fucked
Speaker 3: up sort of like situation.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if I can go with that
Speaker 1: because where were the Knicks or like sometimes like what
Speaker 1: you do it for New Orleans but not for New
Speaker 1: York City.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, that's that's a good point. They that two
Speaker 3: thousand and one team didn't do anything to.
Speaker 1: Be I don't even know who was in there.
Speaker 3: I couldn't tell you. I might, I don't know. Alan
Speaker 3: Houston probably was still Let's look up two thousand and
Speaker 3: one New York Knicks. We need to see. Yeah, they
Speaker 3: did not rally. No, was there a team that that?
Speaker 3: Uh they were still coached by Jeff Van Gundy. Let's
Speaker 3: let's start there. I love deeply it was. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 3: Marcus Canby, we're talking to Alan Houston. Mark Jackson was
Speaker 3: still playing basketball at the time. You've got Travis Knight,
Speaker 3: You've got Latrelle Spreewell, Kirk Thomas, the oldest looking man
Speaker 3: that ever was, and Charlie Ward. Those were the highlights
Speaker 3: of that year. And I believe that was second Olivia
Speaker 3: saying it is the second most looked up question about
Speaker 3: the Knicks. Have the Knicks ever been good?
Speaker 1: No? No, I don't not.
Speaker 3: They had that one year with essentially this same roster,
Speaker 3: and I can't remember what year it was where they
Speaker 3: were the eighth seed of the playoffs and then ended
Speaker 3: up going to the finals that it was essentially that
Speaker 3: same group. I feel like that was like two thousand,
Speaker 3: maybe like ninety.
Speaker 1: Nine, Okay, that could be right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was nineteen ninety nine that the Knicks went
Speaker 3: to the finals with the actually that same group, but
Speaker 3: Patrick Ewing was still on.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Damn poor Nicks. Yeah, I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what. That ship has never been scripted because they
Speaker 1: are terrible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, they and boy are there are a lot
Speaker 3: of people invested in their success and.
Speaker 1: I know, and every other team has like done it.
Speaker 1: Every other team in the league has gone from rags
Speaker 1: to riches. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Once the Bengals, once they they sort of figured it out.
Speaker 3: It was like, oh, no, you like Bengals a fucking
Speaker 3: uh who Joe Burrows ship. Oh yes, the Bengals. Yeah, Bengals.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It's like no, they they give people a shot every once. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but no, man, And I mean Cleveland. Cleveland was like
Speaker 3: a joke when we were growing up. So I guess
Speaker 3: I'm split on this now the further we go into it,
Speaker 3: I'm like, maybe it's like, I think that I think
Speaker 3: that you're right. I think that idea of like there
Speaker 3: are certain narratives that are there trying to push for
Speaker 3: money and shit like that. I think that that is true.
Speaker 3: And I think ultimately you can do you can't have
Speaker 3: a lot of sway in it, but at the end
Speaker 3: of the day, it's still hooping. Yeah, I do think
Speaker 3: like I think, for example, the league desperately wanted Lebron
Speaker 3: to get a championship for the Cavaliers, right. I think
Speaker 3: that that that would that meant the world to everybody
Speaker 3: in charge, everybody that had financial investment in this this
Speaker 3: fucking system. I don't think they have the ability to
Speaker 3: like fully get him the championship, but I do think
Speaker 3: they capitalize on a bunch of choices that are already
Speaker 3: being made by these guys. So when when fucking Draymond
Speaker 3: Green is being a dick and swinging his foot and
Speaker 3: kicking and ship, they go, well, yeah, suspend him. Yeah,
Speaker 3: We're we want them to win. Yeah, we don't want
Speaker 3: to spend that dude. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, We're not
Speaker 3: gonna fucking you know what I mean, like we're gonna
Speaker 3: take advantage of him being an idiot. We're we want
Speaker 3: them to win.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's definitely the case. I think that's
Speaker 1: I think that is definitely the case. Yeah, it's football football.
Speaker 1: I would argue.
Speaker 3: It's it's similar shit where they're like, hey, we we
Speaker 3: would love for there's no reason for forty six, forty
Speaker 3: five year old Tom Brady to be as great as
Speaker 3: he was. I mean, he obviously is a great player,
Speaker 3: and it's not to take anything away from him, but
Speaker 3: like that Buccaneers championship didn't feel like a fucking like
Speaker 3: hey man, it was.
Speaker 1: The same with Peyton and the Broncos championship, Like it
Speaker 1: was like they love that redemption quarterback story, Like my
Speaker 1: team cast me aside, yeah back, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: But I think they had to want that for him
Speaker 3: as much as he wanted it for for himself. So
Speaker 3: he puts in the work, he becomes this phenomenal player,
Speaker 3: and then the league goes, hey, man, if there's any
Speaker 3: moments where it's between Brady and this other quarterback, it's
Speaker 3: always Brady.
Speaker 1: It's always Brady. Yeah, Yeah, I think that's fair. Damn,
Speaker 1: I think we cracked it.
Speaker 3: Yeah No, I think I think we've covered this pretty well.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know that we we've landed any proof of
Speaker 3: of this being scripted, but it sounds like we're in
Speaker 3: agreement that some sort of mischief is happening in the background.
Speaker 1: For sure, And there's always to your own research, brother,
Speaker 1: Like there's your two rabbit holes you can go down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if that's if you want scripting to be real,
Speaker 3: you can fully Yeah, you can find it out there.
Speaker 3: The other day, I was watching a video where they
Speaker 3: were saying that the the the NBA is a simulation,
Speaker 3: that that it was completely simulated, and part of the
Speaker 3: argument they were making was a bunch of clips where
Speaker 3: you see players doing identical things at the exact same time.
Speaker 3: That there are like glitches where you can watch like
Speaker 3: three players on one team all.
Speaker 1: Oh I've seen Yeah, I've seen that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: But then that means that goes back to like that,
Speaker 1: then that means they're all computers, all the players. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and like that, I've met argument, I've met basketball players
Speaker 1: in real life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know that. They're saying, like the individuals
Speaker 3: are computers out there as much as we are all
Speaker 3: living in a computer and the NBA's glitches are evidence
Speaker 3: of this whole thing being a rooss.
Speaker 1: You ever feel like that movie The Matrix really did
Speaker 1: a little too much debt, more damage than it did good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it especially I would say for white people
Speaker 3: not to not to make this an entirely racial thing.
Speaker 3: But but white boys have bought into the premise of the
Speaker 3: simulation I think more than any other group.
Speaker 1: Yo, love it, they love it. That shit comes up
Speaker 1: so much and it's like, I don't know, have you
Speaker 1: watched that movie. It's not that smart, Like you know
Speaker 1: what I mean.
Speaker 3: I think the premise is really really smart. Yeah, the premise,
Speaker 3: and then you watch what they do to prove the
Speaker 3: premise and then to like tell the story, and you're like,
Speaker 3: I guess pay phones, all right, that's how I get
Speaker 3: in and out of the matrix.
Speaker 1: I okay, don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, Yeah, it's like, I don't.
Speaker 1: I think. I think some of this is just I
Speaker 1: think you were just writing ship. The third movie is nonsense,
Speaker 1: that's dog. Did you see the new one? No? I
Speaker 1: didn't see the new one because I can't.
Speaker 3: The new one almost feels like that we might have
Speaker 3: been tricked by like some special needs people, oh like
Speaker 3: with Lost, Yeah, like that. This whole thing was like, oh,
Speaker 3: you didn't know what you were doing at all, and
Speaker 3: it was truly just like some weird monkey typewriter shit
Speaker 3: that got you three four movies.
Speaker 1: I mean, haven't seen how Hollywood works. That makes sense
Speaker 1: to me. That's what we should talk about, is Hollywood
Speaker 1: rigs next time. Yeah, Hollywood.
Speaker 3: I actually would love to talk about this, because boy,
Speaker 3: do I believe that that this.
Speaker 1: No questions, no questions is made up as hell?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I don't think none of this is real. And yeah,
Speaker 3: honestly we should unpack that. We'll maybe do that for
Speaker 3: one of our upcoming episodes is the rigging of Hollywood.
Speaker 1: Can't wait because I got some wild swings, all right, Well,
Speaker 1: we got to get to that.
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Speaker 3: I did all the bureaucratic ship, bye, bitch.
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Speaker 1: me