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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm like backpack wrapper level Ridge right now,

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Speaker 1: does that make sense? I'm not like rapper Rapper Ridge,

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Speaker 1: but I'm like me and someone who is on Ruckus

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Speaker 1: Records in the nineties probably makes the same amount Like

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Speaker 1: any of the niggas on sound Bombing, We probably make

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Speaker 1: the same amount of money. It doesn't.

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Speaker 2: Racist the.

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Speaker 3: Money star stuff. I can't tell me. Bang bang bang

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Speaker 3: skeet skeet skeet. There it is there, it is. Ladies

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Speaker 3: and gentlemen, Welcome to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told.

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Speaker 1: Me, the podcast where we dive deep, deep into the

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Speaker 1: pockets of black expience theories.

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Speaker 3: And we finally worked to prove that the game turning

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Speaker 3: his tear drop tattoo into a butterfly tattoo into an

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Speaker 3: LA logo is the first ever recorded triple down in

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Speaker 3: bad decisions for face tattoos. That is, that is phenomenal

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Speaker 3: shitty decision making.

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Speaker 4: What about the Gucci made I would argue that Gucci,

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Speaker 4: while while his his ice cream was more substantially offensive

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Speaker 4: and and frankly bad compared to the game's decision making,

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Speaker 4: he didn't do it.

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Speaker 3: Three different times. He did anytimes he made one bad

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Speaker 3: choice with the ice cream, and then he was like,

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Speaker 3: I am going to do my best to make this

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Speaker 3: fade over time. I have made a mistake.

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Speaker 1: Here's here's my question. Do you think there's a possibility

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Speaker 1: for a four down?

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Speaker 3: Do you think you could see that it's tough because

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Speaker 3: that la is big now it's yeah, it's pretty big

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Speaker 3: compared to what it started.

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Speaker 1: As it has gotten heavy. I don't think he should

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Speaker 1: have played out. I don't think he should have left

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Speaker 1: the butterfly. I didn't think it was that bad.

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Speaker 3: You think he should have stopped that butterfly. It wasn't

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Speaker 3: that terrible. It didn't feel incorrect for whatever the game

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Speaker 1: And he's like, let's be honest, he's a pretty dramatic guy,

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Speaker 1: but he's a diva.

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Speaker 3: He is a for sure.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember I had to stop following him on

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Speaker 1: Instagram because he would have those like just those dirty,

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Speaker 1: dirty posts of him in like tight tight underwear with

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Speaker 1: what I'm gonna be honest, I think it's probably a

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Speaker 1: fake penis.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it was objectively either you have the biggest

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Speaker 3: penis in the Greater Los Angeles area or or sir

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Speaker 3: you've put it. You've put a hell of an egg

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Speaker 3: glant inside your drawers, trying to pass it off to

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Speaker 1: That was fake. I remember seeing it and being like,

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Speaker 3: It was the first time I respected the game. I

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Speaker 3: was like, oh, whoa.

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Speaker 1: No, because I was like, I was like, impossible. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't have like he doesn't have guys with a

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Speaker 1: giant penis energy. No. That Yeah, it's confidence.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's confidence. Definitely feels like a man with a

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Speaker 3: small like I wouldn't say small, but certainly too small

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Speaker 3: for his six four frame.

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Speaker 1: Right right, big huge dick. Dude. It's like kind of dumb,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like, oh, the blood

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Speaker 1: He's very smart.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's smart, but he's he's annoying about it, and

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Speaker 3: and he's he's constantly lying to us about things that

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Speaker 3: just although he was on Change of Heart, did you

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Speaker 3: ever see that he was blonde?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: No, this was way before that. This was like before

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Speaker 3: game show Change of Heart. They used to be on

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Speaker 3: you have quote unquote a change of heart and you

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Speaker 1: What happened to him? Did he get change of hearted?

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Speaker 3: So the game goes out on this date. They always

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Speaker 3: and I don't know why your girl doesn't feel that way.

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Speaker 3: I'm a perfect Yeah, you're I can. If I could

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Speaker 3: And so the game goes out with the girl. They

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's the worst.

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Speaker 3: Outcome again, A penis that that is forgettable, at the

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Speaker 1: With the game. Yeah, if he was doing that, she

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Speaker 3: No change the art, motherfucker. You have a rare artifact

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Speaker 3: trapped in your Pantsiana Jones Penis, Yeah, this is you know,

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Speaker 3: you know, sloths used to be like six ft feet tall.

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Speaker 3: This is like, this is like a different era of

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Speaker 1: Man has a different a different time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is prehistoric, big dog. If that's what we're

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Speaker 1: That ship is so big it looks like it could

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Speaker 1: be the result of some kind of a black magic curse.

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Speaker 3: Right, like you wish to be a world famous rapper.

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Speaker 3: And then the Witch was like, but I'm cursing you

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Speaker 3: and she's like, no, no, no, no, not the way,

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Speaker 1: Did he dial it back? Does he still do that?

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Speaker 1: I don't follow him anymore because.

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Speaker 3: I'd never followed. I was tracking the game. I knew

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Speaker 3: that would that was a mistake.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I liked it. I liked that first album, man,

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Speaker 1: I did like it.

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Speaker 3: I mostly for updates of the game. Actually see him

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Speaker 3: getting in fist fights and at Drew League videos. That's

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Speaker 3: that's the most common time I see the game is

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Speaker 3: him playing in the Drew League, which I guess he

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Speaker 3: thinks he's talented enough to keep up with like you know,

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Speaker 3: he's tall, but he's also like thicker than he used

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Speaker 3: he has to wear Allen iverson size shorts just to cover.

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Speaker 1: Two pairs of compression short song.

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Speaker 3: But but he's constantly getting in fistfights at these league

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Speaker 3: he's like ready to square up.

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Speaker 1: Would you if it was offered, would you play? Uh?

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Speaker 3: Again, No, because I'm afraid, well you know what I mean,

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Speaker 3: Like I what I my absolute nightmare is. I'm now

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Speaker 3: up and coming player just went the fuck off for

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Speaker 3: sixty eight points and it's nothing but me guarding him

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you don't want I understand, because that's like,

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Speaker 1: that's tough to come back from. You're gonna have your

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Speaker 3: Bro. If he's just saucing on me, and then there's

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Speaker 3: and he just even watks it out. Yeah, it's like, ah, no, man,

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Speaker 3: I'm there's too much at steak here.

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Speaker 1: I've often thought getting posterized is probably the worst thing

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Speaker 3: You've never been dumped on?

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I never not like, not like

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Speaker 1: in a major way.

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Speaker 3: No good for you. Yeah, I see it in your

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Speaker 1: Baby. What is that feeling of?

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Speaker 3: Like, what what's the lowest low you know of? What's what?

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Speaker 3: How what's the depth of your bad decision making?

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Speaker 5: Ah?

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Speaker 1: I did a set one time with my my zipper

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Speaker 3: It was this that going good was it was it.

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Speaker 1: It was an open mic, so it was like one

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Oh, so this was like a bad decision stacked on

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Speaker 3: the worst outcome. Yeah, man, fuck yeah, that's that's what

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Speaker 3: getting dunked on feels like. I bet, I bet they're

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Speaker 1: When they dunked on you, was it like did you

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Speaker 1: feel the nuts on the shoulder? No, it wasn't.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't a nuts on shoulder level dunking. I was more.

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Speaker 1: I would worry about the sound I would make if

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Speaker 1: I got dunked on. Well, that's the thing that's so

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Speaker 1: that would come out of me, like I don't know,

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Speaker 1: like what did you get dumped on?

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Speaker 2: You?

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Speaker 3: Like no, Like that's that's my big worry, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't remember what I think. I think it's one

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Speaker 3: probably what I heard after. I don't like what came

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Speaker 1: He's like, I'm bringing it up now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like no, no, no, no, watch how I distribute. Sure,

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Speaker 5: I got dumped on, but I also know three plays.

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Speaker 1: I'm the only true general out here.

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Speaker 3: It's like, no, this is I gotta go home. Man,

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Speaker 3: you gotta take me out.

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Speaker 1: Coach. Yeah, that's a tough thing to have happened to you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's hard. We I don't I think we've

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Speaker 3: we've introduced ourselves. I don't know that we we've done

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Speaker 3: any formal work here. I I'm Langston Kerman. And if

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Speaker 3: is wrong with you? Why would you stick around this long?

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Speaker 3: What could you possibly affect this place? Cast was gonna

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Speaker 3: game talk early. Yeah, this isn't even what our show

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Speaker 1: I'm worried that he's gonna hear it.

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Speaker 3: Oh the game. You think he's a listener.

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Speaker 3: And to your point, he is still a big motherfucker

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Speaker 3: Chance, Yeah, When then you see Meek Mill practice and

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Speaker 3: I get it, you so coked, but I beat your ass.

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Speaker 3: A He's a fucking weirdo and not in an affectionate like,

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Speaker 3: I don't. I think we highly overestimate how much a

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Speaker 3: heard numerous sort of like suggestions that blue faces like broke,

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Speaker 1: I saw him at La X one time. He definitely

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Speaker 3: It's uh, yeah, it feels like to have money, you

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Speaker 3: we all presumed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because he was dressed really nice, but yeah, and

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Speaker 3: Well, we we wish Blue Face the best. You know,

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Speaker 1: Hey, bunch down, you know what I mean, Academic City's

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Speaker 3: I don't know you're going you're you're doing a lot

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Speaker 3: I hope it's all paying off for you, Blue Face.

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Speaker 1: It's complicated to be a rapper.

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Speaker 3: It's it's very complicated to be a rapper. It's even

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Uh. We we have a conspiracy theory that you and

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Speaker 3: we talked about is my mama told me the NFL

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Speaker 3: that it's completely made up that in fact, the entire

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Speaker 3: just dedicated to these people learning their quote unquote lines

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Speaker 3: and positions blocked so that they can help the script

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Speaker 3: come to be.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't even think about this until just now.

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Speaker 1: But here's thing number one. Right, people go to practices.

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Speaker 1: Yeah no, wait, but there's children there. There's all kinds

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Speaker 3: And in fact, the NFL, I think, is the only

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Speaker 3: sport that does that where you're like, yeah, come watch

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Speaker 1: Watch the whole thing. We'll sign some balls. It's a

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Speaker 1: good time for the kids. So that's already stupid.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 1: That Bro's an idiot.

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Speaker 3: They make the practice facilities like fucking like hubs in

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Speaker 3: the cities and shit, like, yeah, you gotta go down

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Speaker 3: to the fucking to this spot so that you can

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, shout out to dub Valley in Denver.

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Speaker 1: It's it's major. Yes, that's the one thing. Also, I

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Speaker 1: because I do think that there is I do think

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Speaker 3: I think that he's lying. Whoa say more.

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Speaker 1: I think that if you were going to script the

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Speaker 1: people's lives are just gonna have drama that plays out them,

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Speaker 1: it's like you gotta talk to Tom Brady, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, You gotta talk to the Malmes, You gotta

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Speaker 1: talk to everybody in Philly. But like, do you have

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Speaker 1: would be that the rookies don't know about that ship.

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Speaker 3: You know you're saying, you're saying, if your impact is

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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. It's like it's like with like it's

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Speaker 1: like with it's like with basketball, where it's like yeah,

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Speaker 1: It's just like two guys.

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Speaker 3: Right, and they just have to have enough impact on

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Speaker 1: They don't.

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Speaker 3: Everything else is is whatever.

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Speaker 1: Cause he's like also like because then he's like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Writers, And that's That's also something that felt a little

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Speaker 3: I mean? Like it truly makes shit way worse when

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Speaker 3: ain't even that's not what we're doing here. We're just

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Speaker 1: We don't. I wrote I wrote for an award show

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Speaker 3: They're like, what, well, no nobody wants to talk about

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, famous people haven't come in with good ideas.

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Speaker 1: I get it because you you know, your feelings are

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Speaker 3: I understood, Yeah, you're building these personal vendettas that would

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Speaker 3: I will I will make Danica Patrick my super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because like, oh so, what was he trying to like,

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Speaker 1: also have the idea. I don't like the idea that

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Speaker 3: Yeah that's that's uh. And we've talked about this a

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Speaker 3: been fucked over by this league. Frankly, back half times

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Speaker 3: that like you. For them not to have said anything

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Speaker 3: would be crazy. For Colin Kaepernick to not have come

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Speaker 1: What about major injuries? What about old boy? You think

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Speaker 1: he started the season? They're like, you're gonna die on

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Speaker 1: the field.

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Speaker 3: That will bring you back?

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Speaker 1: You were back though, but like that's in, that's a

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Speaker 3: About, and you'll never play again by the Yeah, this

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Speaker 3: So the NBA that makes perfect sense. Well, I I

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Speaker 3: We have a break coming up. But I'm excited to

440
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Speaker 3: find out exactly all of your thoughts on the NBA

441
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 3: rigging and or more on the NFL scripting. We're gonna

442
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Speaker 3: take a break. It'll be back with more likes, the more,

443
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Speaker 3: David and more. My mama told me.

444
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Speaker 2: Yeah, b yeah, we are back discussing whether or not

445
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 2: professional sports is rigged.

446
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 1: Football I think we've debunked. But I will say basketball it's.

447
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 3: Always I tell me more because because I love because

448
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 3: we're not just talking rigged, rigged, you're saying that that

449
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 3: basketball is scripted, level rigged.

450
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's rigged. I think it's

451
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: there are the teams who are supposed to do what

452
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 1: they do. I think that there's often marketing campaigns around

453
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: those things. You know what I mean? You remember Little

454
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: Penny saying, Kobe Lebron, Kobe Lebron, Like, what am I

455
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: supposed to think about that? There's clearly like there's clearly

456
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 1: like especially David Stern like, I I just feel like

457
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 1: if there's not if the if it's not rigged, there

458
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: are ways that they would like it to work out

459
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 1: that they do their best. Yeah to specifically two thousand

460
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 1: and nine, the West Conference Finals. They weren't ready for,

461
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: you know, a team of unsung heroes Denver Nuggets. They

462
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 1: weren't ready for that. They weren't ready for a tiny

463
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: man like Earl boykends off the bench with the ring.

464
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: They can't have that. They can't have that. Kenyan Martin

465
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: was a menace. He had lipstick tattooed on his neck.

466
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 1: They couldn't have that. So they had to give it

467
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: to who Kobe because that was all calls.

468
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 3: I I feel like everybody has a Kobe example of

469
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 3: the rigging that hurt them the most, mine personally being

470
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 3: the Sacramento Kings of whatever the fuck year that was.

471
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 3: But that early two thousand Sacramento Kings with Chris Coover

472
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 3: and Doug Christie and all them, and I was like,

473
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 3: this is this is the greatest team ever? Simple and

474
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 3: they were. They were they were torn asunder by Robert Orry.

475
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

476
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 3: It's ship like that. Doesn't it make sense?

477
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 1: Yeah?

478
00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,159
Speaker 3: I definitely am am a hurt man as you are are.

479
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 3: We actually talked about this exact subject, or at least

480
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 3: a version of this subject with Tone Bell last may

481
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,360
Speaker 3: I want to say if I'm remembering correct, and Tone

482
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 3: believed that the NFL and NBA were rigged, and we

483
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,439
Speaker 3: talked specifically. In the research sort of found that a

484
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 3: lot of what people suggest is is that it's not

485
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 3: so much scripted in the way that Arian Foster is suggesting,

486
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 3: but these leagues do have biases in wanting certain stories

487
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 3: to be able to happen. So it's not so much

488
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 3: them giving a fuck if one team wins a championship

489
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 3: or not, but they do give a fuck whether or

490
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 3: not like that that hero's tale happens from beginning to end.

491
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that they I think that there's

492
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: you know, there's obviously only so much impact that you

493
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: can have. Like that's why I feel like it's not scripted,

494
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: because every now and then you'll see a guy go rogue,

495
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 1: saying like like Westbrook on that one, that was like

496
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 1: he wasn't supposed to do that.

497
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Lynsanity is a do going rogue.

498
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: Cohen rogue that was not supposed to That was not

499
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: supposed to happen at all at all at all.

500
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 3: So it's like and they marketed it, they went like,

501
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 3: oh fuck, we can make a bunch of money off

502
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 3: of this, so they bought into it very quickly. But no,

503
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 3: that wasn't like they whoever Adam Silver didn't start there.

504
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 3: I think it was still David stern In. But but

505
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 3: whoever was in charge at the point didn't go like

506
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 3: and this year, we're gonna have an Asian dude, No,

507
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 3: the greatest player on the planet for for four weeks.

508
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds insane what you're saying. Yeah, no,

509
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: like nobody could have seen that.

510
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 3: He'll be six five and uh and and petit and

511
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 3: we're gonna make him the literal greatest player on the

512
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 3: planet for a month, and then somehow it never comes back.

513
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 3: He'll never have even a moment the one he had

514
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 3: so strange.

515
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: It's also like, and I mean, I go back to

516
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: my team, like I have for years felt that the Nuggets,

517
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: despite themselves, were just always supposed to be a second

518
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: class team. You think you think the NBA was ready

519
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: for Jokic Nikola Joki is an MVP. I love him

520
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: right ugly it's basketball like, it's all ugly until the

521
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: pass is caught goes in.

522
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 3: The passes are phenomenal in that it looks like he

523
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 3: drops the ball every time, like he's fucking up, and

524
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 3: then it ends up being the most amazing pass that

525
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 3: you could have imagined.

526
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Speaker 1: He plays like mister magoo, you know what like he

527
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: plays He plays basketball like mister McGoo walking through a

528
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: fucking conception.

529
00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 3: And all his manisms are are super fucking European.

530
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: Oh not so tired all the time.

531
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's rubbing his head weird and shit, and

532
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 3: you're like, I'm not sure this man should be allowed

533
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 3: on this court. I don't think he's I think they're

534
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 3: gonna bully him, but then he's like, now watch this.

535
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, come to find out you know what it is.

536
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: It's like, did you see that new Eddie Murphy movie?

537
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 3: You people?

538
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, shots?

539
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 3: Everybody shut you know, Sam jay Is went crazy, But yes,

540
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 3: you people.

541
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: But when Jodah Hill played basketball and you're like, there's

542
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: no way, and then even looking at it, it looked bad.

543
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: But the shots got knocked down. That's yeah.

544
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 3: It was very garbage basketball and it was clearly written

545
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 3: with the intention of a better basketball player having having

546
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 3: played this part they wanted. You know, Harrolson, you.

547
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: Don't think he would have wrote that. I bet he

548
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: wrote that for himself.

549
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,719
Speaker 3: I would I think he did write it for himself.

550
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 3: But I think that's ego, baby. I don't think that

551
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 3: that's I don't think that he was like, basketball is

552
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 3: my best sport. I think he was like, what's black

553
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 3: that I can do? I fake basketball?

554
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: Wait till I do a reverse. Guess who's coming to

555
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: dinner and it's just going to be me hitting home

556
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: runs on these bitch ass white boys. I'm gonna go

557
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: to the park and just have chewing tobacco and just yeah,

558
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: do white people play pick up baseball? I don't.

559
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think that's of the fifties

560
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 3: when stickball existed, and.

561
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, it feels like it would be more of

562
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: a Dominican thing.

563
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have, they have record like, they have very

564
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 3: sort of like leagues. They have sort of like real games,

565
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 3: but they don't just like hit the driveway and practice

566
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 3: baseball and shit. No, I don't think so, not anymore.

567
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 3: Maybe they do, I mean with kids obviously, but not

568
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 3: grown men sitting and being like, hey, let's go. They

569
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 3: play softball though, I think they play softball. Okay, I

570
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 3: think some boys will get together and throw a big

571
00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 3: old softball at each other.

572
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, to all that, I say that, Yeah, I

573
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: think the NBA is rigged. I don't think the NFL

574
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: is also too many variables right right, It's like it's

575
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: or no, the NFL is not enough variables, meaning meaning

576
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: that I think the longer, the longer the season, the

577
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: more games and stuff like that. Or oh, I guess

578
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: that would be easier to write because there's not that many.

579
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 3: Games, right, yeah, I mean sixteen games per team, that

580
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 3: that you hire a writing staff for each team and.

581
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: What do you think the writing staff's like ten, Yeah, yeah,

582
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: it's gotta be.

583
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 3: It's gotta be a big room, I think, because fifty.

584
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: Two players and coaches have coaches also have their own

585
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: dramas and shit going on.

586
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you have to really like be you have

587
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 3: to be thinking for enough positions and like strategizing with

588
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 3: the the other teams as well. Like it, there has

589
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 3: to be cross pollination. You can't just write your side

590
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 3: of the ball, right, I mean right, so it it

591
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 3: feels like a pretty massive undertaking that that doesn't even

592
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 3: seem possible.

593
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: Frankly, Yeah, I don't believe it.

594
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 3: Because football is more possessions than it is even fucking

595
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 3: like minutes.

596
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly. Just the pace of the game. It's

597
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: really hard to dictate too, Yeah, like yeah, yeah, I

598
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: just don't and and I just don't. Football still has upsets.

599
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: I feel like in my lifetime of sports, I've seen

600
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: more major upsets in football than I have in basketball. Right,

601
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: Basketball usually who you think is gonna win wins. Yeah.

602
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 3: There, you know, it's a much harder thing to have

603
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 3: a major upset in basketball. But some of that also

604
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 3: is that football is one and done and so it's like, yeah,

605
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 3: if these dudes, you know what I mean, it's one

606
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 3: and done and it's really about smash into each other.

607
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 3: So like, if I just show up with the wrong

608
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 3: energy for for getting smashed, I'm I'm gonna lose and

609
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 3: I can't do nothing about it kind of thing, right right,

610
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 3: Whereas like basketball, if I you know, if I got

611
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 3: drunk the night before and have a bad game, I

612
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 3: get like six more chances to fix.

613
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: I mean, they said Alan Irison did it all the time. Yeah, yeah,

614
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: I still I still love his nuggets heres though I

615
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't take back a single minute.

616
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 3: Really because they didn't do anything for you.

617
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: Guys, I take that back. It was just cool that

618
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 1: he was here, but it was also like you could

619
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 1: tell he wasn't like here, you know what I'm saying, Like, no,

620
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: he was.

621
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 3: His heart had moved on from the NBA by that.

622
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: Point, and nobody ever hangs out here when they're pro

623
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: like are pro like mellow. It was like he was

624
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 1: gone whenever he could be like people aren't just like.

625
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 3: And it was the wrong group of guys to surround

626
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 3: him with if you needed him to like buy into

627
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 3: a a system and or even like the premise of

628
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 3: playing yeah all the way.

629
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:06,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

630
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 3: It was like fucking j R. Smith and and Kenyan

631
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 3: Martin and Carmelo Anthony and it's like, yeah, well of

632
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 3: course he's not gonna pay attention.

633
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: No, no, no no, and they're all everybody was on

634
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: their way out kind of. So it was like a

635
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 1: team that you could feel. Listen, that's not the point.

636
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 3: It wasn't George Carl your coach by.

637
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: Then, Yes, George Carl was our coach.

638
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 3: And what a deeply racist man that is. Nobody was

639
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 3: feeling encouraged and or motivated by George Carl.

640
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 1: I mean, George Carl looks racist.

641
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he proves it.

642
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: Boy, he's got that. He's got that face with like

643
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: no lips like that, Like no, the smaller the lips,

644
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: the more I think you're gonna say it.

645
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, And for a while he had like no hair

646
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 3: on top and like long in the back, and it's like, oh,

647
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 3: you're a wild guy, George Carl.

648
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: You hate that because that's starts with the Cave. These

649
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 1: are all.

650
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 3: Well, I think there are some last names of the

651
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 3: Cave that are pretty cool and.

652
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you're black, though I know I'm not saying you.

653
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 3: Half my family ain't. And are they racist, all of them?

654
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 3: Some of them are, They don't. None of it is

655
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 3: rooted in as much a hatred but a fear if

656
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 3: if it.

657
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: Is, yeah, I think I have some in my family.

658
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: It's more hatred based. Yeah.

659
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 3: Ours was just I ain't never been around that, and

660
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 3: that scares me. So I'm gonna, I'm gonna, you know,

661
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 3: do what Hihuahua's doing and yap and nip kind of ship.

662
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: I was just like, why is he following me in

663
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: the grocery store?

664
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's like he's not. This is just a groceries.

665
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: Everybody in there.

666
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 3: So in the in the the research that I did

667
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 3: for the tone Bell of it All, and I'm glad

668
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 3: you brought up the NBA because there are a few

669
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 3: specific examples that people point to when they talk about

670
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 3: like sort of these hero stories getting out of hand

671
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 3: or at least becoming a little too pointed for us

672
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 3: to be able to deny some of the the fucking,

673
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 3: you know, the writing as it were. One of the

674
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 3: examples they bring up is the two thousand and five

675
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 3: New Orleans Hornets, where they they go from basically being

676
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 3: one of the worst teams in the league to then

677
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 3: like having like this historic rise and part of it

678
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 3: is sort of like wanting to link it with the

679
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 3: narrative of Katrina and the city coming back to life

680
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 3: so that you can rebuild finances.

681
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: New Orleans.

682
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, New Orleans needed it for both their their own

683
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 3: personal like emotional well being, but also literally they needed

684
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 3: the win to be able to like restore this fucked

685
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 3: up sort of like situation.

686
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: But I don't know if I can go with that

687
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: because where were the Knicks or like sometimes like what

688
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: you do it for New Orleans but not for New

689
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: York City.

690
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, that's that's a good point. They that two

691
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 3: thousand and one team didn't do anything to.

692
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: Be I don't even know who was in there.

693
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 3: I couldn't tell you. I might, I don't know. Alan

694
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 3: Houston probably was still Let's look up two thousand and

695
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 3: one New York Knicks. We need to see. Yeah, they

696
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 3: did not rally. No, was there a team that that?

697
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 3: Uh they were still coached by Jeff Van Gundy. Let's

698
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 3: let's start there. I love deeply it was. Yeah, Okay,

699
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 3: Marcus Canby, we're talking to Alan Houston. Mark Jackson was

700
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 3: still playing basketball at the time. You've got Travis Knight,

701
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 3: You've got Latrelle Spreewell, Kirk Thomas, the oldest looking man

702
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 3: that ever was, and Charlie Ward. Those were the highlights

703
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 3: of that year. And I believe that was second Olivia

704
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 3: saying it is the second most looked up question about

705
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 3: the Knicks. Have the Knicks ever been good?

706
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: No? No, I don't not.

707
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 3: They had that one year with essentially this same roster,

708
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:40,240
Speaker 3: and I can't remember what year it was where they

709
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 3: were the eighth seed of the playoffs and then ended

710
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 3: up going to the finals that it was essentially that

711
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 3: same group. I feel like that was like two thousand,

712
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 3: maybe like ninety.

713
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: Nine, Okay, that could be right.

714
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was nineteen ninety nine that the Knicks went

715
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 3: to the finals with the actually that same group, but

716
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 3: Patrick Ewing was still on.

717
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Damn poor Nicks. Yeah, I'll tell

718
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 1: you what. That ship has never been scripted because they

719
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: are terrible.

720
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, they and boy are there are a lot

721
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 3: of people invested in their success and.

722
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 1: I know, and every other team has like done it.

723
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,720
Speaker 1: Every other team in the league has gone from rags

724
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 1: to riches. Yeah.

725
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 3: Once the Bengals, once they they sort of figured it out.

726
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 3: It was like, oh, no, you like Bengals a fucking

727
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 3: uh who Joe Burrows ship. Oh yes, the Bengals. Yeah, Bengals.

728
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

729
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,919
Speaker 3: It's like no, they they give people a shot every once. Yeah,

730
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 3: but no, man, And I mean Cleveland. Cleveland was like

731
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,959
Speaker 3: a joke when we were growing up. So I guess

732
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 3: I'm split on this now the further we go into it,

733
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 3: I'm like, maybe it's like, I think that I think

734
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 3: that you're right. I think that idea of like there

735
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 3: are certain narratives that are there trying to push for

736
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 3: money and shit like that. I think that that is true.

737
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 3: And I think ultimately you can do you can't have

738
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 3: a lot of sway in it, but at the end

739
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 3: of the day, it's still hooping. Yeah, I do think

740
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 3: like I think, for example, the league desperately wanted Lebron

741
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 3: to get a championship for the Cavaliers, right. I think

742
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 3: that that that would that meant the world to everybody

743
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 3: in charge, everybody that had financial investment in this this

744
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 3: fucking system. I don't think they have the ability to

745
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 3: like fully get him the championship, but I do think

746
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 3: they capitalize on a bunch of choices that are already

747
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 3: being made by these guys. So when when fucking Draymond

748
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 3: Green is being a dick and swinging his foot and

749
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 3: kicking and ship, they go, well, yeah, suspend him. Yeah,

750
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 3: We're we want them to win. Yeah, we don't want

751
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 3: to spend that dude. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, We're not

752
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 3: gonna fucking you know what I mean, like we're gonna

753
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 3: take advantage of him being an idiot. We're we want

754
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 3: them to win.

755
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's definitely the case. I think that's

756
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: I think that is definitely the case. Yeah, it's football football.

757
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: I would argue.

758
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 3: It's it's similar shit where they're like, hey, we we

759
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 3: would love for there's no reason for forty six, forty

760
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:31,439
Speaker 3: five year old Tom Brady to be as great as

761
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 3: he was. I mean, he obviously is a great player,

762
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 3: and it's not to take anything away from him, but

763
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 3: like that Buccaneers championship didn't feel like a fucking like

764
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 3: hey man, it was.

765
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: The same with Peyton and the Broncos championship, Like it

766
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 1: was like they love that redemption quarterback story, Like my

767
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: team cast me aside, yeah back, yeah, yeah, yeah.

768
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 3: But I think they had to want that for him

769
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 3: as much as he wanted it for for himself. So

770
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 3: he puts in the work, he becomes this phenomenal player,

771
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,439
Speaker 3: and then the league goes, hey, man, if there's any

772
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 3: moments where it's between Brady and this other quarterback, it's

773
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 3: always Brady.

774
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: It's always Brady. Yeah, Yeah, I think that's fair. Damn,

775
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: I think we cracked it.

776
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,919
Speaker 3: Yeah No, I think I think we've covered this pretty well.

777
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: I don't.

778
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 3: I don't know that we we've landed any proof of

779
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 3: of this being scripted, but it sounds like we're in

780
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 3: agreement that some sort of mischief is happening in the background.

781
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: For sure, And there's always to your own research, brother,

782
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: Like there's your two rabbit holes you can go down.

783
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, if that's if you want scripting to be real,

784
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 3: you can fully Yeah, you can find it out there.

785
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 3: The other day, I was watching a video where they

786
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 3: were saying that the the the NBA is a simulation,

787
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 3: that that it was completely simulated, and part of the

788
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 3: argument they were making was a bunch of clips where

789
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 3: you see players doing identical things at the exact same time.

790
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 3: That there are like glitches where you can watch like

791
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 3: three players on one team all.

792
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 1: Oh I've seen Yeah, I've seen that kind of thing.

793
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: But then that means that goes back to like that,

794
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: then that means they're all computers, all the players. Yeah,

795
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: and like that, I've met argument, I've met basketball players

796
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: in real life.

797
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know that. They're saying, like the individuals

798
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 3: are computers out there as much as we are all

799
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 3: living in a computer and the NBA's glitches are evidence

800
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 3: of this whole thing being a rooss.

801
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,439
Speaker 1: You ever feel like that movie The Matrix really did

802
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: a little too much debt, more damage than it did good.

803
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it especially I would say for white people

804
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 3: not to not to make this an entirely racial thing.

805
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 3: But but white boys have bought into the premise of the

806
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 3: simulation I think more than any other group.

807
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 1: Yo, love it, they love it. That shit comes up

808
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: so much and it's like, I don't know, have you

809
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: watched that movie. It's not that smart, Like you know

810
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: what I mean.

811
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 3: I think the premise is really really smart. Yeah, the premise,

812
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 3: and then you watch what they do to prove the

813
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 3: premise and then to like tell the story, and you're like,

814
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 3: I guess pay phones, all right, that's how I get

815
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 3: in and out of the matrix.

816
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,399
Speaker 1: I okay, don't.

817
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, Yeah, it's like, I don't.

818
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: I think. I think some of this is just I

819
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: think you were just writing ship. The third movie is nonsense,

820
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: that's dog. Did you see the new one? No? I

821
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 1: didn't see the new one because I can't.

822
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 3: The new one almost feels like that we might have

823
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 3: been tricked by like some special needs people, oh like

824
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 3: with Lost, Yeah, like that. This whole thing was like, oh,

825
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 3: you didn't know what you were doing at all, and

826
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 3: it was truly just like some weird monkey typewriter shit

827
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 3: that got you three four movies.

828
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 1: I mean, haven't seen how Hollywood works. That makes sense

829
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: to me. That's what we should talk about, is Hollywood

830
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: rigs next time. Yeah, Hollywood.

831
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 3: I actually would love to talk about this, because boy,

832
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 3: do I believe that that this.

833
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: No questions, no questions is made up as hell?

834
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 2: Yeah?

835
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 3: I don't think none of this is real. And yeah,

836
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 3: honestly we should unpack that. We'll maybe do that for

837
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 3: one of our upcoming episodes is the rigging of Hollywood.

838
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 1: Can't wait because I got some wild swings, all right, Well,

839
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 1: we got to get to that.

840
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 3: That's exciting and more importantly, if you want to send

841
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 3: us your own conspiracy theories, your own drops, if you

842
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 3: want to accused Arian Foster of greater crimes than we

843
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 3: are able to, please please send those theories to my

844
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 3: mama pod at gmail dot com. We would love to

845
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 3: hear from you and give us a call a four

846
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,799
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847
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:18,680
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848
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 3: com is where we also have plenty of places for

849
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 3: you to see us. And and that's the whole shebang. Okay,

850
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 3: I did all the bureaucratic ship, bye, bitch.

851
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: Just's got to come outside. Chips and your Kala bears

852
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: are racist. The hosting money turkey stuff, I can't tell

853
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: me