1 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,159 Speaker 2: I'm Ryan Mink here with Garrett Downing, and we're going 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 2: to talk about what we've seen from Lamar Jackson at 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 2: training camp now that he's back from his illness, and 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 2: also what's been proven to us in the first week 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 2: of padded practices. So a lot to talk about here 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 2: at Ravens training camp. 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: We're kind of in those dog days a little bit here, Garrett. 9 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: They probably are. They'll get a little dog year, yeah, right, 10 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: like next week will be really it'll be barking. 11 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, but right now it's starting to get hot. The 12 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: pads have been on. 13 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: They were on for there's off day in the middle, 14 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: but they were. 15 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: On for four straight practices. Yeah. But Lamar Jackson being 16 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: back on the field has kind of, even despite that, 17 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 2: brought the spirits up and made practice really engaging. 18 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 19 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 3: I think when Lamar's out there, you just feel a difference. 20 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 3: Like there's no denying that he's a starting quarterback. He's 21 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 3: one of the most charismatic guys on the team that 22 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 3: everybody seems to follow, and when he's on the field, 23 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 3: I think you feel a difference for me, like. 24 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 4: As I've seen him. You know, it's funny. 25 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 3: We did the podcast last week and a lot of 26 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 3: the conversation was the apps his absence and the impact 27 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 3: of that and is it a concern or whatever like 28 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 3: that seems like that podcast was recorded like, you know, 29 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 3: six months ago. You know, like it's pretty amazing to 30 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 3: me when Lamar gets back on the field, Like how 31 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 3: quickly you forget everything else, Like you forget that he 32 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 3: was out there, he was not out there, you forget 33 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 3: that he was sick, like and I think that that's 34 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 3: one of the things about Lamar that I think is 35 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 3: always always stood out to me, and it was like 36 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 3: it was really prevalent, like a. 37 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 4: Year ago when the contract stuff was going on. 38 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 3: It was like when whenever he's on the field, like 39 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 3: whenever he's out there, whenever he gets in the building, 40 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 3: like he's Lamar, he's himself, he's authentic, he's he's unchanged. 41 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 3: And I think that, like I felt that this week 42 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 3: and in a much different context, but like he was 43 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 3: out You're nervous, what's going on? 44 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 4: Is he okay? 45 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 3: Blah blah blah, And then like he gets back out there, 46 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 3: You're like, oh, okay, it feels pretty good with no 47 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 3: we're right back at quarterback. 48 00:01:58,880 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. 49 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: And I think most importantly, he's practiced really well since 50 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: returning to the field. I think his past two practice 51 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: Monday and Tuesday were really strong practices for him. 52 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: A lot of completions. Uh. And and let's kind of 53 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: dive into it. 54 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: I thought that Tuesday's practice or I'm sorry, I'm mixing 55 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 2: up my days now you can tell it's the dog days, Thursday, Thursday. 56 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 4: Once you get into training camp, it's always hard to tell. 57 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 2: Way which Wednesday. Okay, yesterday I thought was a really 58 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: important step. And that was the first the first practice, 59 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: you know, like I said, we had four straight and 60 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 2: pads that one was not padded, and it was a 61 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 2: heat index of ninety nine. And really for the most part, 62 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 2: you know, reporters are over there grumbling about all this 63 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 2: is a boring practice. 64 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: I have to you have four straight and pads. You know. 65 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 2: It was like they did a lot of kind of 66 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 2: slower speed drills things like that. Everybody's like, oh man, 67 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 2: this isn't just fun to watch, but a really important practice. 68 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 2: And John Harball himself said that because they worked on 69 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 2: third down situations, third and six and third and twelve, 70 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 2: situations with a lot of blitzing from the Ravens defense, 71 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 2: and it was it was a simulation of all right, you. 72 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: Know they're going to bring the heat on third down. 73 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 2: How well is this offense going to be able to 74 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: perform in that scenario. And specifically Lamar right, like we've 75 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 2: talked all summer about, Hey, there's more on his plate, 76 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 2: all that pre snap adjustments, all that stuff, like him 77 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 2: mastering that in year two and Todd Mounkin's offense is 78 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 2: really important for this offense to take the next step. 79 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: Yea. 80 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: And you saw that in practice, multiple big completions. I 81 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 2: thought the play of the practice was the defense kind 82 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 2: of was showing blitz and then Roquine called out a 83 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: change whatever called something out, and you saw the linebacker 84 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: shift and roquin came up to the line of scrimmage 85 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 2: like he was going to blitz. And then you saw Lamar, okay, 86 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: now I'm going to respond to that, and he changed 87 00:03:55,760 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: the seemingly changed the play change the protection changed something, right, communication, 88 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: the formation changed a little bit, and then you get Zay. 89 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 2: He got Zay Flowers one on one deep against Kyle Hamilton, 90 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 2: got the ball out, laid a perfect pass up to him, 91 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: Zay goes up makes a big catch. Yeah, that's the 92 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 2: kind of play that the Ravens are talking about making 93 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: that kind of play, And especially when you even when 94 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: you think back to the AFC Championship game against the Chiefs, 95 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: that's what they did to them. They dared him to 96 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 2: make that kind of play and the Ravens didn't make it. 97 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 2: The Ravens were last in EPA. It's like expected points 98 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 2: per attempt per drop back when they were blitzed on 99 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: third down last year. Lamar Jackson was last in the 100 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 2: NFL in that regard, right, So opponents are going to 101 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 2: do that right when they see that there, we're gonna 102 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 2: We're gonna blitz Lamar Jackson on third down. And I 103 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 2: think that's why Lamar Jackson said, or I'm sorry now, 104 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson. John Harball said, that's quote a big step 105 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: for us. 106 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I thought that. 107 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 3: I thought that practice was I agree with you important, 108 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 3: and I think that, like I have been encouraged by 109 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 3: kind of the mental stuff that you're seeing from Lamar 110 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 3: in that practice, and over the course of this week, 111 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 3: I think that he certainly is has command. It's like, really, 112 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's night and day, which 113 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 3: is what you would expect, what you. 114 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 4: Would hope for. 115 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: I don't know that it's night and day, but I 116 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: think from last year. Yeah, I don't think it's night 117 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: and day. 118 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 4: Oh, I think it's night and day. 119 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 3: I think that, like at this point last year, I 120 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 3: still think that he was this was a whole new offense. 121 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 2: Okay, you're just saying, like his understanding of the offense 122 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 2: as a whole nice like whole pre check stuff. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 123 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 2: his operation of the offense. 124 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: I totally agree. 125 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like the operation of the offense to me is 126 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 3: just night and day. Comparishing to last year. 127 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 4: We to learn it. 128 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: I thought Timeline could put it pretty well. He was like, 129 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: last year we built the house. 130 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, this year we're putting on editions, really sprucing up 131 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 2: some of the room exactly. 132 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: You know, like, yeah, it's a big difference. 133 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, totally. 134 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 3: And so I think that I've been encouraged by what 135 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 3: I've seen from Lamar in that regard. 136 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 4: I also something that has stood out to me. 137 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 3: I think that he has had nice touch on some 138 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 3: of the deep throws on a number of occasions in practice, 139 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 3: like not I'm not necessarily talking about like the just 140 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 3: like the nine routes bombs down the field, but like 141 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 3: that one to Zay, like that's a deeper throw he's hit. 142 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 3: He's hit a number of those, I think, kind of 143 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 3: deep deep throws. Also in one on one drills, I 144 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 3: think that he's had really touch. 145 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: Layer layering that ball like like there's an underneath linebacker 146 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 2: and kind of feathering that ball over the linebacker's head. 147 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 4: It just seems like the touch there has been has 148 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 4: been really really. 149 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: Good, makes that throw really well. 150 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been I know we've talked about the deep 151 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 3: passing game and how that can That's an area that 152 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 3: I mean, say, Flowers just said he wants to add 153 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 3: more of that to his his repertoire, and I think 154 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson does certainly as well. And so I think 155 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 3: that I've been encouraged by just the touch I've seen 156 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 3: on some of those deep balls. 157 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 2: I think that we've seen Zay hit some big plays 158 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 2: in the practice. So that's that's really good news. Including 159 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 2: uh Wednesday's practice, Zay made three really great catches, two 160 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 2: of them on deep passes. Isaiah likely it's the Zay's 161 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 2: right Lamar Jackson also hit another one in that blitz 162 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: third down period right after the Zay Flowers next play boom, 163 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 2: Isaiah likely down the scene for a long one, So 164 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 2: really really important stuff there. And to your point about 165 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 2: the deep passing game, I do think that's, you know, 166 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 2: and it's not just I mean a lot of it 167 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 2: is those nine routes. It's the bombs. It's the one 168 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 2: on one you have one on one outside. Safety's not 169 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: in the picture. You're gonna make that. You're gonna hit 170 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 2: that or not. And I do think you know, Lamars 171 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: has overthrown that ball. When he misses, it's generally an overthrow. 172 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 2: And I asked Te Martin a couple questions about that 173 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 2: earlier this week, and he said, you can't really say 174 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 2: anything to them, Like you just say, just keep firing, 175 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 2: like you don't want to get in his head. You 176 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 2: don't want to like kind of make him gun shy 177 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 2: all that stuff, like just keep letting him rip. And 178 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 2: the more those you take, the better you'll get and 179 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 2: the chemistry and all that stuff. Now, it's been a 180 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 2: shame that as soon as Lamar Jackson comes back from 181 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 2: his illness, Rashat Bateman now has a little bit of 182 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 2: a soft tissue thing that's kept him out of practice somewhat. 183 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 2: So it's just like guy A leek, can we get 184 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 2: those two guys on the practice field for a consistent 185 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 2: period of time please, you know, because as Tom Munkan said, 186 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 2: Rashaw Bateman, like, they need to hit those shots to 187 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: for Shat Bateman, he needs to be a bigger part 188 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 2: of it. That's got to be to unlock some of 189 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 2: this stuff that they want to do offensively, Hitting those 190 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: big deep balls to shot Bateman's is part of it. 191 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that, like if I was looking at 192 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 3: one thing, to me, that's been like a disappointment of 193 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 3: the week. It's been the fact that like those who 194 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 3: guys haven't really been able to be on the field together, 195 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 3: they really not watch it all because as Lamar was 196 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 3: out the first week with the illness and then comes 197 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 3: back and and Rashad Bateman you know, goes on the 198 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 3: shelf at least you know, temporarily. John Harbaugh said indicated 199 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 3: that it's not any kind of major thing. He didn't 200 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 3: practice one day, but then he was back out there 201 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 3: again for a limited portion of practice. So you know, 202 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 3: you want those two play. We've talked about it at nausea. 203 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 3: I'm over the course of this this offseason in summer, 204 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 3: but like Rashat Baitman is such an important piece of 205 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 3: this offense and building that chemistry. He said it when 206 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 3: he was on podium last like building the trust within 207 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 3: the offense from Lamar Jackson, from Todd Monkin, from the teammates, 208 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 3: Like building that trust is really important to him. That 209 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 3: was something that was a focus for him in this 210 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 3: training camp, And I thought he was great the first 211 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 3: week of training camp, and so I think that I 212 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 3: think that he's he's done some of that, but I 213 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 3: just hope that he can back get back on the 214 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 3: field soon. 215 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 4: Those two guys can build up that chemistry. 216 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 2: Well, he was back on the field practice on Wednesday. 217 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 2: He didn't finish practice, and he didn't do everything that 218 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 2: everybody else. 219 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 4: He was limit. 220 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 3: He was back on a limited basis, So he went 221 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 3: down on he went down on Monday, didn't practice on Tuesday, 222 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 3: and then a limited basis on Wednesday, which like is 223 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 3: encouraging in the sense that like he's back out there 224 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 3: right right in any campacity closer. 225 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 4: So yeah, there's still there's still a good amount of time. 226 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 2: And we're recording this before Thursdays practice, so by the 227 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: time he listened to this, he might be full go. 228 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 3: Right, So I think that, like I do think that 229 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 3: the Bateman Lamar pieces, they still have plenty of time, 230 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 3: but I just hope they can build up that chemistry. 231 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: We were talking chemistry. 232 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 2: The chemistry between Lamar and Isaiah likely is off the chain. 233 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 2: I mean, we know what it is with Mark Andrews, right, 234 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 2: that's unchanged, and we saw what it was the tail 235 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: end of last season, the last half of last season 236 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 2: with Lamar and Isaiah, and I feel like that's only 237 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 2: cron in training camp. I mean Monday's practice, Lamar completed 238 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 2: eighteen passes and Isaiah likely caught nearly a third of them. Right, 239 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 2: So that's per Jonah Shaeffer, who's charting all of Lamar's passes. 240 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: Credit to Jonas. 241 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 2: I am not going to that depth, but I'm glad 242 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 2: that Jonas is because here I am citing the stat so. 243 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: You know, Isaiah likely has caught a lot of passes. 244 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 2: I mean, it's no, it's not breaking news that that 245 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 2: dude's a monster and we think he's going to have 246 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 2: a big season. And it's been fun to watch during 247 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 2: training camp, just the chemistry with he and Lamar, Like 248 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 2: often see them when Lamar's not in there talking, you know, 249 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 2: off to the side, the two of them talking, I 250 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 2: would think football, you know, and and really kind of. 251 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: Working on that chemistry. So it's it's been. 252 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 2: Really neat to see that develop and uh that that 253 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 2: stuff paste evidence. 254 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 3: Look, Isaiah likely was the best player on the field 255 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 3: on Monday, like he was. He was just the best player. 256 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 3: He was making catches all over the field. 257 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 2: Kyle Hamilton is like done covering that guy's I mean, 258 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 2: I mean he got him once. Isaiah likely got him once. 259 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 2: He got him twice. One didn't really count as like 260 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 2: a pretty short slamt. Yeah, in one on one's whatever, 261 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 2: you'll give that up. Yeah, Then he got him on 262 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: a deep one where he jugged it on. Isaiah likely 263 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 2: jugged it on his way into the end zone and 264 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 2: Kyle Hampson kind of threw his arms up. Now, that 265 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 2: could have been because he wanted a flag, because you know, 266 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 2: both of them were pretty handsy near the line of 267 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 2: scrimmage and about five yards off, so maybe he wanted that. 268 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 2: But then I can confidently say during Wednesday's practice when 269 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 2: Isaiah likely made a really tight contested catch during like 270 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 2: red zone drills, and Lamars just rifled one into tight 271 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: coverage and I likely made the play. Hamilton just throws 272 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: his hands up, like, what am I going to do. 273 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: With this guy? Yeah, it's just what am I supposed 274 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: to do? 275 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 4: Yeah? 276 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. 277 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 3: I mean he's been, he's been awesome. He's been, he's 278 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 3: had good hands, he's getting open. I just think that 279 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 3: he is I have been. I came into this year 280 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 3: like with high expectations for what he would be able 281 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 3: to do, and I honestly think that like those expectations 282 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 3: have only grown based on what I've seen in training camp. 283 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 2: I think I think he could get a lot of 284 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 2: snaps at slot receiver, like a lot. 285 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 286 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 3: Like, honestly, as I'm looking at it right now, if 287 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 3: you're like, all right, who do you want to get 288 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 3: the ball to in this offense? 289 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 4: Of course you have Derreck Henry in the backfield. 290 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 3: But from a passing game standpoint, I think it's it's 291 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 3: safe Flowers, it's Mark Andrews and Isaiah likely like those 292 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 3: are the top three, like and and you know, based 293 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 3: on it's it's it's funny because so Monday, Isaiah likely 294 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 3: was as I said, I thought he was the best 295 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 3: player on the field. Then on Tuesday in practice, to me, 296 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 3: it was like Mark Andrews like, hey, hey, don't forget 297 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 3: about me, Like he was all said, no, he was 298 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 3: dog was marking and like. 299 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 2: Made a crazy like leaping catch, yeah, diving catch, stiffar 300 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 2: Marlin on forre you three times in the face and 301 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 2: ran it into the Yeah, he caught like a. 302 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 4: Little crossing route. 303 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 3: And like a lot of times, like when guys kind 304 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 3: of get into the open field, they don't they don't 305 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 3: necessarily run seventy yards into the end zone. 306 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 4: Mark did. He ran seventy yards into the end zone. 307 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 2: And Dereck Henry and people exactly it was like okay, yeah, like. 308 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 3: Mark's like Mark's like, yeah, don't forget about the big 309 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 3: dog here. And so I thought that, like both of 310 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 3: those guys really had a good week of practice. 311 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 2: They they root for each other, yahn't hear each other's 312 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 2: biggest fans. But you would be I think, you know, 313 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 2: you'd be wrong to think that they do not have 314 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 2: a little competition going on between the two of them. 315 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 1: Of course, for you know, target chair. 316 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, And so I think like, as I'm looking at 317 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 3: this passing game, you know, it's it's Zay. You know, 318 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 3: Zay's are on the two tight ends, Like I think 319 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 3: those are the top three, and I think that Bateman 320 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 3: like certainly is going to be a big piece of 321 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 3: that equation too. But just based on the early part 322 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 3: of training camp, the question for me, it will be 323 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 3: really interesting to see is just how much how much 324 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 3: the Ravens use both Mark and Isaiah on the field 325 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 3: together versus swapping them in and out. Like I'm just 326 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 3: I will be curious to see once we get into 327 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 3: regular season games, because I don't think the preseason is 328 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 3: going to give us really an. 329 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: Indication that at all give us an indication. 330 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 3: But like, what's the percentage of plays that the Ravens 331 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 3: are running with both Isaiah likely and Mark Anders on 332 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 3: the field together. 333 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 2: I will be very interested to see that as well. 334 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 2: I hope that it's going to be a lot, but 335 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 2: I'm not so sure. 336 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. 337 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see, you know, because both of them plays 338 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 2: so much in the slot. You know, Mark played out 339 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 2: split out from the formation the majority of the time, 340 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 2: you know, and so Isaiah likely that that's part of 341 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 2: why Isaiah likely has been learning every spot in the 342 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 2: Ravens offense. 343 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: He talked to me about it. 344 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 2: It's every spot, and he's excited to show his knowledge 345 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 2: and that he can be in the backfield, he can 346 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 2: be wherever, Like they're they are putting a lot on 347 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,239 Speaker 2: his plate from a schematic standpoint and a knowledge standpoint 348 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 2: to say like, all right, man, you're really talented. 349 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: We want you on the field. Yeah, we also got. 350 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 2: The big no, so like you're gonna have to find 351 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 2: other ways to do it as well, in addition to 352 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 2: just rotating those guys. Yeah, I just we got off 353 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 2: into a tight ends conversation that's supposed to be a 354 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 2: lt Mark. 355 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 4: I know. 356 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 3: But well here's the thing we know, Lamar Jackson loves 357 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 3: staring to the tight ends stat way to bring it back. 358 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he does. 359 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 3: And I think that like he's been so good from 360 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 3: the time he stepped in as a rookie, like seeing 361 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 3: the middle of the field and finding like those saft 362 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 3: squats in the defense, and him and Mark have been 363 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 3: have been in unison their entire careers, and so like 364 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 3: it is always funny to me, like there will just 365 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 3: be times And this was when Mark had his big 366 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 3: practice where there were times where all a sudden, Lamar 367 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 3: kind of starts scrambling and then it throws it up 368 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 3: and it's like, okay, guess dude number eighty nine Mark Andrews, 369 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 3: Like they still have that connection, that street ball connection. 370 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 3: I don't think that's ever gonna go away. 371 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: I will say this just a final point for me. 372 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 2: You talk about that street ball connection, and I'm gonna 373 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 2: bring it back to the whole blitz thing and being 374 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 2: able to operate efficiently and hit some big plays and 375 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 2: get the ball out fast versus the blitz. 376 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: I think it's important. 377 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 2: Of course, you're always gonna have that element to Lamar 378 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 2: Jackson's game where he makes somebody miss or whatever, but 379 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 2: you don't want to have to count on that, right, 380 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 2: Like the Jaguars play when he just ducks a guy 381 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 2: and heaves it to Isaiah Likely and he goes up 382 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 2: in big Boys somebody, Hey, highlight of the year, yeah, 383 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 2: one of them, right, Or Lamar throwing off one foot 384 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 2: because he's got a blitzer in his face. Now, some 385 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 2: of that is like you're gonna have unblocked pressures and 386 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 2: he's got to deliver the ball. But like you don't 387 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 2: want Lamar Jackson that have to be scrambled around, making 388 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 2: guys miss and playing that kind of street ball. You 389 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 2: want to you want to operate, handle that blitz, have answers, 390 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 2: hit those answers quickly, and of course it's not gonna 391 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 2: you're not gonna do that one hundreercent time and in 392 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 2: the times, you don't you want Lamar to make people 393 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 2: look silly and make Lamar ask plays right, But like, 394 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 2: I think it's important, and that's why that practice was 395 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 2: so encouraging to see him get that ball out and 396 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 2: not have to do that kind of stuff. 397 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 3: It's kind of like the the battle of like the 398 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 3: classroom versus the field to a certain like you don't 399 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 3: you're not gonna coach, isn't gonna draw up a play 400 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 3: and be like, all right, we're gonna draw this up 401 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 3: and it's the Jaguars play where he throws it up 402 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 3: to Isaiah life like that wasn't on the chalkboard, Like 403 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 3: that's not how they draw it up. But you also 404 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,239 Speaker 3: want you know that that's possible, and you don't of 405 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 3: course want to eliminate that, but you can't rely on it. 406 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 3: You can't assume that that's going to. 407 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 2: You never yeah, you never draw up that stuff. That 408 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: stuff just happens when it's like oh no, and Lamar's like, 409 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 2: oh he saved this, you know, that's that's that stuff. 410 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, And so it's that's always going to be an 411 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 3: element of this team and this offense with with the 412 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 3: way that he plays the game. But again, you can't 413 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 3: you can't just expect those things exactly. So overall, I mean, 414 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 3: just kind of wrapping the conversation on Lamar before we 415 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 3: go into some of the other position groups for the 416 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 3: pads on. But I was encouraged, Like I thought, I 417 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,239 Speaker 3: thought he looked good. I thought he looked healthy. Like 418 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 3: that was kind of a question, like last week he 419 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 3: practiced for a day, didn't look right, didn't finish practice, 420 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 3: and so you kind of wonder, like, how's he going 421 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 3: to be when he gets back on the field. 422 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 4: Is he going to be sluggish? 423 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 3: I thought he looked good, like I think he's personality wise, 424 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 3: performance wise, all of that has been really good, feels good. 425 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 3: So I think that like that was that was encouraging 426 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 3: that there was like no lingering effects of the illness 427 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 3: at least seemingly to. 428 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 2: Me, absolutely all right, so when we come back, we'll 429 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 2: talk about some of the takeaways from us the trenches. 430 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 4: We're gonna go into the trenches of the pads. 431 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm excited. Once the Pads come on, stay tuned. 432 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 3: We here coming to you from the sea GEEKSU doo. 433 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 3: We also want to give a shout out to our 434 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 3: friends at Draft Kings Sportsbook. They are an official sports 435 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 3: betting partner of the Baltimore Ravens Draft Kings Sports Book. 436 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 3: The Crown is yours. So as we talk about the 437 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 3: Pads coming on this week, naturally the focus there goes 438 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 3: to the guys in the trenches, the offensive line. What 439 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 3: do you think after one week of the Pads in 440 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 3: terms of where the O line stands at this point? 441 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 4: What? 442 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 2: I don't think clearer picture. I think the picture is clearer. 443 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 2: I don't think it's clear. We're not to twenty twenty yet. Okay, 444 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 2: I don't know what it is twenty forty not an 445 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 2: optometrist that I've never worn glasses or Yeah, we're not 446 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 2: the best people speak of this, but I do think 447 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 2: we have a better picture. I think Andrew Woarhe's has 448 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 2: been really good. You know, one of the first days 449 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 2: in pads. He comes out with a cut right across 450 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 2: the bridge of his nose. I like to see that, 451 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 2: so like things are getting physical, and I think I 452 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 2: think he's blocked well. You know, I think that Ronnie 453 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 2: odelf Aoway in the early parts of practice was just 454 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 2: like dominating early parts of training him just dominant. You know, 455 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 2: I haven't seen that as much, which I think credit 456 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 2: to Ronnie Stanley a little bit in that regard. Uh, 457 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 2: you know, the pads. Mconnack, come on, I think he's 458 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 2: protect did better. Linderbaum is lindermm the right side of 459 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,959 Speaker 2: the line, I think is still very much the question 460 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 2: mark file. Leley has had his ups and downs, and 461 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 2: I do think that I've been encouraged by what I've 462 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 2: seen from Roger Rosengarten, the rookie second round pick, as 463 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 2: the paths have come on. I've I've tried to isolate 464 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: him a number of times in practice and just watched, 465 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 2: especially when he gets reps against the first team defense 466 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 2: and FAOA David Ajabo, and I've you know, he's not 467 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 2: a big, super powerful guy by offensive lineman standards yet 468 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 2: right he's like it was a lighter rookie who is 469 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 2: mobility was really his strong suit. And I think he 470 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 2: told us on the pod he's trying to add weight. 471 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 2: It's trying to get bigger, stronger. That's an off season 472 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 2: mission for him. I can tell looks. 473 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: Like it looks like he's been eating. He's looking like me, 474 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: now here, me, you is is that good? 475 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 4: I don't even know. 476 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. I meant it to be in a 477 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 1: good way, But you're right, it's just. 478 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 2: Like you know, I'm just saying I'm getting a little 479 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 2: bit more of a tumb tumb and seeing that on Roger. 480 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 2: It's good weight on him, but like he's putting on weight, 481 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 2: and I think that's good. 482 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: That's the mission, huh right. 483 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 2: And but I think, like most importantly, I'm seeing him 484 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 2: anchor better than I feel like I was seeing even 485 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 2: at the start of rookie Mini camp early in OTAs 486 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 2: like he's he's standing up to that bull rush to 487 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 2: that power a little bit better than he was earlier 488 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 2: in camp. 489 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been encouraged by Rosa Gartin. 490 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 3: I think he still has probably some work to do 491 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 3: if he's gonna, you know, win that right tackle job. 492 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: Oh he hasn't, certainly he hasn't won it yet. 493 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so but there's time, and I think that 494 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 3: I think that I have seen development from him from 495 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 3: the spring to now to your point, and I think 496 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 3: that that's good. I wonder like if if I don't know, 497 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 3: if defensive coaches, you know, or the basically like did 498 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 3: the coaches ever say to the edge rushers like let's 499 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 3: let's test this guy with the bull rush, and like 500 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 3: it's sure they do, you know, And. 501 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 4: It's a good. It's a good it's good for both 502 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 4: sides to see that and how you hold up. 503 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 3: And so I think that like I have seen him 504 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 3: anchor well, I mean, he's really one thing I really 505 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 3: like about Tim too, and this is what this is 506 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 3: what you knew you were gonna get when you drafted him, 507 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 3: Like if he gets out there in space on that 508 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 3: second level at all, really athletic moves really well as 509 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 3: an offensive lineman, and so like that's encouraging when they 510 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 3: run some of those toss plays with Derrick Henry and 511 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 3: you got you know, Roger Rosengarden out there leading the 512 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 3: way coming downhill, Like I like that. 513 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 2: And so I think from the mental standpoint too, handling 514 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 2: the stunts, the twists, all that kind of stuff, like 515 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 2: he's a he's a I think a smart player, and 516 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 2: he really wants to be very good. So I imagine 517 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 2: that he's doing a lot of work in the classroom. 518 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 2: You know, an interesting dynamic is if if it's gonna 519 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 2: be he and Fallele, here's fal Lele really converted tackle 520 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 2: and so like that communication and passing off that stuff 521 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 2: and those two working, and you have a rookie and 522 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 2: a young player who's a converted tackle, it's going to 523 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 2: be really important. 524 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think that there's there's certainly a 525 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 3: possibility with Rose of Garton that it kind of follows 526 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 3: the Orlando Brown approach, which was Orlando as a rookie 527 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 3: didn't start right away ultimately moved into the starting lineup. 528 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 3: I'm sure Roger wants to start right away and he's 529 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 3: he's aiming for that, but Orlando didn't start right away 530 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 3: and then stepped into that starting lineup and didn't give 531 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 3: up the job. Conversely, you know, Pat McCarey is in 532 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 3: there saying I want to start, you know, every game too. 533 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 3: He wants to be the starting right tackle. So you know, 534 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 3: he's a veteran who's done that before and has played well. 535 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 3: He's also incredibly valuable as a backup to every single 536 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 3: position along the offensive line. The other takeaway for me 537 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 3: too is you know that when you talk about the 538 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 3: right guard competition, the guy you know, Filele working in there, 539 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 3: you know Ben Cleveland is still very much alive in 540 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 3: that competition as well. 541 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 4: You know, I think that, Like you know, I think 542 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 4: he's so yeah solid too. 543 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 3: But you know, I would probably put Ben Cleveland ahead 544 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 3: of him in that competition right now, at least from 545 00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 3: my eye, and I think that he is. You know what, 546 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 3: the coaches have talked about it with him with Cleveland, 547 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 3: like he's when he's gotten in the games, he's played 548 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 3: pretty well and so you want to see consistency in 549 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 3: practice and that's why they want to see here. But 550 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 3: as we start to get into these preseason games starting 551 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 3: next week, thought it'll be important for him. So I 552 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 3: think he's still in that mix, Like I don't. I 553 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 3: think he's very much alive in that competition and he 554 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 3: could end up winning the starting right guard job. 555 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. 556 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 2: I mean, look, there's no doubt that the Ravens offensive 557 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 2: line is the biggest question mark on the team. 558 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 1: That's that's what it is right now. 559 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 2: I do think we're still I'm not like hitting the 560 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 2: panic button by any means. These guys are young, and 561 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 2: they need experience and they need time to develop. And 562 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 2: like I've written this in fifty words or less, but 563 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,959 Speaker 2: like they have to be good enough to beat the Chiefs. 564 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 2: But I think that when all is said and done, 565 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 2: like they're going to continue to get better over the 566 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 2: course of the season, and I I think that by 567 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 2: the end of the year, we're going to say, Look, 568 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 2: I don't know that we're all going to be screaming. 569 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 2: The Ravens offensive line was really the engine to this offense, 570 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 2: and they they were the strength like we were in 571 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 2: back in twenty nineteen, right where you're like Ronnie Orlando 572 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 2: yond right all going to the Pro Bowl. 573 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: Yeah right. 574 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to be that, but I 575 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 2: think that it's going to be good enough for these 576 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 2: other weapons and Lamar and Derrick Henry and these receiving 577 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 2: weapons that we've talked about just shine, Like that's what 578 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 2: it's got to be, and it's going to get better 579 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 2: over the course of the season. 580 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: We're still really early. 581 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, another guy that I'll just say, who's in the mix. 582 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 3: You know, we probably haven't mentioned at all, and talking 583 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 3: about that is Tayshaun Manning, you know as a guard, 584 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 3: you know he's competing, and Sean Manning he was an 585 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 3: undrafted rookie last year. Okay, So I'm just saying he's 586 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 3: he's in that mix along as the Ravens are getting 587 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 3: guys reps there. Josh Jones, Yeah, Josh Josh Jones also 588 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 3: like he you know, it'll be think with Josh Jones 589 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 3: a little similar to me with to the McCarey conversation. 590 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 3: Is like, you know, Josh Jones has played tackle in 591 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 3: his career, so you like him as a backup tackle, 592 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 3: like he could be a backup left tackle, and so like, 593 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 3: do you do you want your backup left tackle to 594 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 3: be your starting right guard? Right at the end of 595 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 3: the day, you want your best five offensive lineman. But 596 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 3: as you're looking at all that, like how do you 597 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 3: how do you want to have your the whole engine 598 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 3: kind of operating? 599 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 4: I think that that's one of the things that the 600 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 4: coaches have to look at. 601 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 2: So the defensive line, I'll tell you, has been given 602 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 2: them some trouble. Keep that in mind when you're evaluating 603 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 2: the offensive line. The defensive line has been nasty and 604 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 2: Travis Jones I feel like we've said it here during 605 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 2: OTA's and he just has carried it over to training camp. 606 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 2: This dude, it really feels like he's ready for a 607 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 2: breakout season. I mean, I don't know if it's because 608 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 2: Michael Pierce can get after the quarterback a little bit, 609 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 2: but I feel like Travis Jones is going to take 610 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 2: more off of his in passing situations. Yeah like that, 611 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 2: He's just gonna get more snaps. I mean saw one 612 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 2: where he beat Fole like pretty quickly with his hands, 613 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 2: came up, it was right and Lamar's face. That was 614 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 2: the play that Lamar made a fantastic kind of side 615 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 2: arm throw around Travis Jones and Mark Andrews made a 616 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 2: leaping catch on. 617 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 1: It, but Travis Jones was right there. 618 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 2: He's every day it feels like Travis Jones gets a sack, 619 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 2: which for a big, you know, nose tackle kind of 620 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 2: defensive tackle, you don't usually say that. Oh every day, 621 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 2: this guy's getting in the backfield multiple times a day. 622 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 2: It really feels like this could be a He's not 623 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 2: gonna get justin Mattabeke stats or even close to that. 624 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 2: If he gets half of that, I'll be thrilled for 625 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 2: a second. That'd be awesome. Yeah, I mean I think 626 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 2: that's what he said his floors this year. That's a 627 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 2: lofty floor. He's in the penthouse, that's what. So if 628 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 2: he hits that, that'd be great, six seven sacks, whatever, 629 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 2: you know. But like I'm not gonna I don't think 630 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 2: it's crazy from what I'm seeing out here in trading camp. 631 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 3: No, look, Travis Jones, I think he is one of 632 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 3: those guys that like he consistently gets better. Came from 633 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 3: a program where in college at Yukon they didn't win 634 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,959 Speaker 3: any games. I think this last year there, like you know, 635 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 3: and so this is a just as a player that 636 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,719 Speaker 3: like I think got into the NFL, got into an 637 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 3: NFL weight room, gott into this defense. 638 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 4: Like he's flashed at times. 639 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 3: But I just think the the he's always been a 640 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,719 Speaker 3: high upside player to me for sure, has all these 641 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 3: great physical tools. I mean, you look at the guy, like, man, 642 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 3: he that's guy's gonna be hard to block. 643 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 4: I don't want to block. 644 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 2: I mean teammates like say, he's like the strongest guy 645 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:36,439 Speaker 2: on the team and. 646 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 4: You're seeing that, and so I don't know any nasty. 647 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 2: He's got a little uh Sam Adams. 648 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 4: Just going throwback here with old school Ravens. 649 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 2: I am he's got some Sam Adams like kind of 650 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 2: kind of I mean he's a nice guy off the field, 651 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 2: but kind of mean, like he's gonna get that little 652 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 2: extra shove's he's gonna do that, and he's got he 653 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 2: played with an edge. 654 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I like you, I've been encouraged by him. 655 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 3: I think he's I think he's you know, we I 656 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 3: don't know how many sacks he's going to get to 657 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 3: be honest, I don't. I don't know if he's going 658 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 3: to get to that. You know, if you're talking six 659 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 3: seven eight sacks of him, that would be a great year. 660 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 3: But even if he doesn't get that, I think he's 661 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 3: going to be a really important impact player. He's going 662 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 3: to stuff the run, He's going to end up with 663 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 3: some some you know, he's going to be a really 664 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 3: important player that allows you know, Rokwan Smith and Trent Simpson, who, 665 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 3: by the way, you know, was my point I want 666 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 3: to bring up. 667 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 4: I think he's been really good too. 668 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, last point on Travis Jones, I'm gonna I'm gonna 669 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 2: make a prediction right now after the season, Travis Jones 670 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 2: will have put himself in the conversation of oh man, 671 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,959 Speaker 2: we got another guy we got to pay. Now, how 672 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 2: are we going to pay all these guys? It's gonna 673 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 2: be Kyle Hamilton, Brandon Stevens, Travis Jones. 674 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: How are we going to pay these guys? 675 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 2: Like, do we have another PQ situation on our hands? 676 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 2: He paid Matt bk. How do you pay Triock? I 677 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 2: think that's gonna be the conversation that we're having at 678 00:29:58,640 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 2: the end of the year. 679 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 3: Well, if that's the conversation, and that's a good thing. Yeah, 680 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 3: that's a good thing. So I just mentioned the guy 681 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,719 Speaker 3: who I I you know, I've also been impressed by 682 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 3: Trenton Simpson. You know, I just think he's continued to 683 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 3: do exactly what you want to see him do. He's 684 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 3: fine all over the fields. He's chippy, you know, I 685 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 3: think he's like man, he plays with a whistle and like, 686 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 3: I think he's trying to prove himself and let like 687 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 3: the other guys on the defense know that, Like he's 688 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 3: going to be a player who is is physical, is tough. 689 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 2: Well, you heard from Roquan Smith. How many quotes, did 690 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 2: he give us sound bites? Did he give us on 691 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 2: the lounge here? Yeah, Trenton Simpson's got to match that intensity. 692 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 3: And I think he's doing his part to try to 693 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 3: try to keep up with Roquan in that regard. 694 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: I think so. Yeah. 695 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 2: I mean, this defense has an attitude. There's a standard 696 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 2: at which, in large part is set by Roquan. You know, 697 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 2: like when somebody screws up. I heard it the other day, 698 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 2: when somebody screws up, you know, it doesn't matter who 699 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 2: it is. It could be the biggest name some of 700 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 2: the biggest name players on the team, and Roquan he'll 701 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 2: let you know, we got to clean that up. That's 702 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 2: not on a fly, yeah, you know, and and uh sure, 703 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 2: and and then just the way that they play the game. 704 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 2: Trenton Simpson, I think you're right, is out to prove 705 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 2: like I'm ready to be a part of this defense 706 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 2: that way. 707 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 708 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 3: So I've been. I've been really encouraged by him. Like again, 709 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 3: there's there's levels to this. You want to see how 710 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 3: he does knowledge standpoint and OTAs. Now you want to 711 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 3: see how it goes early in camp. Now the pads 712 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 3: come on, how do you how do you respond and 713 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 3: to me, he's just passed every test so far. National 714 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 3: course is preseason. 715 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 2: But we've talked a lot about the cornerbacks throughout training 716 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 2: camp and all the interceptions they had, which Marlin Humphrey 717 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 2: just like continues to catch balls. 718 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: It has been awesome. He's picked off Lamar four times. 719 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 2: Lamar joked, Yeah, I'm just trying to make sure him 720 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 2: working on his hands. 721 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: You know, he dropped a bunch of pigs last year. 722 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 2: So two guys I think, in addition to Marlin, who 723 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 2: has continued to have a very strong training camp, Nate 724 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 2: Wiggins the rookie, which is important to see him still 725 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 2: shining with pads on given all the consternation about the 726 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 2: guys soide and weight as he entered the league. 727 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: That's been really nice to see. And then Brandon Stevens. 728 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 2: Do not forget about Brandon Stevens and all the intrigue 729 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 2: about you know, it's a big it's a big deal 730 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 2: that Marlin's come back and playing at this level in practice, 731 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 2: but Brandon Stevens is still a no. 732 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 3: Brandon Stevens is not giving up snaps like and he 733 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 3: when he talked with reporters this week, I mean, he 734 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 3: talked about how he still feels like there's he has. 735 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 4: Something to prove. 736 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 3: He doesn't feel like he's arrived, and he's going into 737 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 3: a contract year and he's not making him He's not 738 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 3: doesn't seem to be pressed on the on the contract thing. Instead, 739 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 3: he's just like it's very mad at Beak like and 740 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 3: worked out for just Matta Bka what you said. It 741 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 3: worked out pretty well for Justin Matt Beeka. 742 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: It's correct. 743 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,959 Speaker 3: So if Brandon Stevens plays like he did last year, 744 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 3: then it will also work out very well for him. 745 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 3: And I just think he's played really well. He's not 746 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 3: looking to give up snaps like you talk about competition 747 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 3: between guys like it's great at Nate Wiggins, bring. 748 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 4: Back Arthur Moll. 749 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 3: Let you know, you have all these deep guys, you 750 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 3: signed Eddie Jackson, you have this deep secondary. All this 751 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 3: stuff is great. And brand Step was like, Oh that 752 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 3: that's great, that's great. You know I'm still going to 753 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 3: be a starting corner. 754 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 755 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 4: I guess his mindset. 756 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 2: It feels like whenever the ball comes Brandon Stevens' way, 757 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 2: he's in the receiver's back pocket. 758 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: And I love that dude. And how he challenges the ball. 759 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 2: I mean, he just it will be contested and he 760 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 2: there's gonna be some completed there always is, but it 761 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 2: ain't gonna be easy. 762 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 3: No, No, I've been I've been impressed to him. So 763 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 3: the secondary is good, slice out. 764 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 2: It is, yeah, and when you combine it with what's 765 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 2: going on in that defensive line, and you know, the 766 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 2: pass rush is still the question that's been kind of 767 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 2: the outside linebacker room I think has turned into the 768 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 2: biggest defensive question at this point. Certainly you lose Malie 769 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 2: Cam He went on IR with a season ending knee injury, 770 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 2: which I really feel bad for that kid. 771 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 772 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 2: Second year player John Harball said he was gonna be 773 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 2: you play fresh he right, he I think a lot 774 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 2: of people were like, eh, he's kind of on the bubble. 775 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 2: Is he definitely gonna make it. It's not a short thing. 776 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 2: John Harball said he was gonna play. Yeah, And so 777 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 2: you know that one stings. Of course, you know he 778 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 2: was going to be a reserve. You know, it's not 779 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 2: like it's an emergency situation. But I feel so bad 780 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 2: for him, Yeah, and really. 781 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: Rooting for that guy. 782 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 2: He's a good dude and a good player and then 783 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 2: you also have a deiss Isaac, the third round rookie 784 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 2: who hasn't seen the field since rookie Minicamp due to 785 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 2: a hamstring injury. And so you know, the Ravens sign 786 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 2: Quincy Roche, a veteran outside linebacker, but you're it certainly 787 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 2: led to questions of do they need to make another 788 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 2: outside linebacker addition, you know, it was already kind of 789 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 2: the question mark because they didn't sign anybody to replace 790 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,720 Speaker 2: j ViOn Clowney. Either're counting on bigger contributions from David Ajabo, 791 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 2: which I think will come as long as he's healthy, 792 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 2: but we haven't seen it. 793 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 3: Right. 794 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 2: He's got to translate talent into production and he's got 795 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 2: to stay healthy. And then they're also you know Tavius Robinson. 796 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 1: I've really liked. He's a big, physical edge setting. He's 797 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: a physical man. 798 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,919 Speaker 2: I saw him, God bless Charlie Kohler trying to block 799 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,879 Speaker 2: him one on one and tight end outside livebacker drills 800 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 2: because it didn't go well. Tavius Robinson is a powerful man, 801 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 2: so like and they're expecting I think the tram Jones 802 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 2: and just way to have a bigger season. They're banking 803 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 2: on bigger seasons from their in house guys. 804 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: They didn't. They didn't replace. 805 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 2: You Clowney except for a DC Isaac, but we haven't 806 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:25,879 Speaker 2: seen them. Right, he's the new edition in the room. 807 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 2: I do think that that leaves the door open to 808 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 2: the possibility of an outside line Mecher edition. 809 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. 810 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 3: Well, look, the Ravens made the late editions of that 811 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 3: department last year. Clowney was a late edition. Le van 812 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 3: Noy was a later addition. 813 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: Yes, so they not realm of possibility. 814 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 3: That's not a foreign concept to Aricosta, so they could 815 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 3: go that route if they feel like they need to. 816 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: Yep. Agree. 817 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 3: So as always, you can reach us at the lounge 818 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 3: at Ravens dot NFL dot net. We appreciate your emails, 819 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 3: let us know what questions you have, and we are 820 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 3: going to be back with you on Monday. As we 821 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 3: talked through the NFL Top one hundred as well as. 822 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: He's always a lot to debate there. 823 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 3: There's lots of debate there as well as Madden ratings, 824 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 3: which everyone also loves to debate. So that's coming out 825 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 3: on Monday. Also, every single day the Ravens Press Pass podcast, 826 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 3: we post all of our press conferences there and their entirety, 827 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 3: so make sure you check those out. And we're gonna 828 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 3: be playing preseason games here next week, folks. It is 829 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 3: going to be Ravens Eagles August nine, mty Bank Stadium, 830 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,240 Speaker 3: so we can't wait for that. 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