Speaker 1: Did an election that was supposed to revolve around women's
Speaker 1: issues actually come down to the plight of men young men.
Speaker 2: In the final months of the election, Donald Trump reached
Speaker 2: out to young male voters on popular platforms that they
Speaker 2: subscribed to.
Speaker 3: I want to thank some people real quick.
Speaker 2: I want to think the no boys aiden Ross theil Vaughan.
Speaker 3: Also, what the boys are gonna last, but not least
Speaker 3: the mighty and powerful Joe Rogan. For generations, the U
Speaker 3: vote has been one that has largely favored Democrats, but
Speaker 3: in recent polling, we're seeing that advantage is starting to slip,
Speaker 3: especially among young men.
Speaker 1: You've heard it from cable news, pundits, Republican and Democratic strategists,
Speaker 1: and your favorite YouTuber. Young men swung the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: four US presidential election for Trump in a big way.
Speaker 1: Understanding what's driving the success of so called broadcasters and
Speaker 1: how to reach the young men in their grips on
Speaker 1: everyone's mind right now. But we're zooming in on a
Speaker 1: different corner of the manosphere, the intersection between male grievance
Speaker 1: culture and climate denial.
Speaker 2: When you pop in your earbuds and enter the virtual
Speaker 2: man cave, you might not be paying attention to mentions
Speaker 2: of global warming, but it actually comes up a lot.
Speaker 2: Some of these guys are explicitly right wing warriors, like
Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk and Jordan Peterson, but many are just macho
Speaker 2: entertainers who like to talk about typical men's hobbies sports, cars, sex,
Speaker 2: and dating, but with a little bit of climate denial
Speaker 2: mixed in well spice. See, here's the thing, this climate
Speaker 2: change narrative, this is a really goofy thing that people
Speaker 2: on the left are talk about. This is because of
Speaker 2: climate change.
Speaker 1: This is climate change causes fire.
Speaker 2: It's an intrinsic part of life to feel guilty in
Speaker 2: relationship to nature. No, it's difficult for us to live
Speaker 2: in harmony with the natural world had for the natural
Speaker 2: world to live in harmony with us. I'm being one
Speaker 2: hundred percent serious.
Speaker 1: I cannot think of a single one reason.
Speaker 3: I cannot think of one single reason why global warming
Speaker 3: is bad.
Speaker 2: In case you didn't recognize those voices, and you're lucky
Speaker 2: if you don't. That was Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson, and
Speaker 2: Andrew Schultz, whose combined online following is more than every
Speaker 2: major cable news network together. And who am I? I'm
Speaker 2: Daniel Penny. I'm a journalist who's been tracking the rise
Speaker 2: of climate denial among men on my show Non Toxic.
Speaker 2: I've also written about this kind of stuff for The
Speaker 2: New Yorker, The New York Times, in GQ.
Speaker 1: And I'm Amy Westervelt, climate reporter and host of Drilled.
Speaker 1: In this mini series, we'll be asking what's wrong with men,
Speaker 1: Why are they less likely than women to believe in
Speaker 1: climate change or take personal or political action against it,
Speaker 1: and what does their reluctance to deal with the climate
Speaker 1: crisis have to do with their shift towards the right
Speaker 1: in general. We're calling it carbon Bros.
Speaker 2: We're going to show how the manisphere started shilling for
Speaker 2: fossil fuels and why the climate crisis became tied up
Speaker 2: with the culture war against feminism and so called gender ideology.
Speaker 2: We'll trace how gas guzzlers became symbols of throbbing American manhood,
Speaker 2: and we'll break down the boy math solutions offered by
Speaker 2: doomers into abundance Bros. Along the way, you'll hear from researchers, historians, scientists, activists,
Speaker 2: and regular guys who are trying to navigate the climate
Speaker 2: crisis and the crisis of masculinity.
Speaker 1: And we'll try to figure out what can be done
Speaker 1: to bring men back into the climate movement. You take
Speaker 1: the Red, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you
Speaker 1: how deep the rabbit hole it goes.
Speaker 2: If you want to find out how deep the rabbit
Speaker 2: hole goes, tune into carbon Bros.
Speaker 1: That rhymes sign carbon Bros wherever you get your podcasts.