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Speaker 1: Welcome to Verdict with Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.

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Speaker 1: It seems like we've been talking about this forever, and

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Speaker 1: yet we are finally at the doorstep of finding out

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Speaker 1: who's going to be the next president of the United

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Speaker 2: Well, as they say, is at a monster truck rally tomorrow. Tomorrow, Tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: Dear God, this will all be over. This long and terminable,

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Speaker 2: never ending election will be over, God willing tomorrow. And

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Speaker 2: what we're going to talk about today the day before

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Speaker 2: election day, is two things. Number one, the stakes, what

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Speaker 2: number two, the lay of the land, where the polls are,

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Speaker 2: what to expect, what tomorrow is going to look like.

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Speaker 2: Both of those we're going to break down for you

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Speaker 1: We're also going to look at what the first one

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Speaker 1: a Trump administration or a Harris administration, and that will

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Speaker 1: Right now, Senator, you've been all over You've been out

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Speaker 1: You talk about turnout, and this comes back to the issues.

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Speaker 2: Almost every public opinion poll that has done, the top

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Speaker 1: Harris, no doubt, And I think that's the reason why

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Speaker 2: If he wins, well, as I said, on the border,

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Speaker 2: That will impact you want to talk about seniors, Seniors

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Speaker 3: You put this together, I called the trifecta.

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Speaker 1: She was a terrible VP candidate, our presidential candidate. The

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden it was a coronation no one

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Speaker 1: voted for. Let's not forget that. You have the corruption

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Speaker 1: disconnect there because we are so divided as a country,

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Speaker 1: and that concerns me as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I don't think we are that divided. I

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Speaker 2: I think there are a number of people who are

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Speaker 2: stakes of it. I don't think they're I don't think

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Speaker 2: forty eight percent of the country are hardcore Democrats. In fact,

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Speaker 2: I think this country is solidly center right. But we

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Speaker 2: need to move them, we need to persuade them. And

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Speaker 2: it's where the media being corrupt is such a problem.

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Speaker 2: And so listen on the merits. We ought to be

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Speaker 2: winning sixty five thirty five everywhere, but we're not. So

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Speaker 2: let's break it down. Let's run through the swing states.

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Speaker 2: So let's start with Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania is the most important

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Speaker 2: swing state. It's the largest swing state. If you look

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Speaker 2: at right now the real clear politics average, Trump is winning,

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Speaker 2: but barely. The average right now is Trump at forty

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Speaker 2: eight point three and Kamala Harris at forty eight point zero.

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Speaker 2: So Trump is up point zero three. And to give

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Speaker 2: you a CeNSE, at this point two days to the election,

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Speaker 2: Biden was up four point three and Clinton was up

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Speaker 2: two point eight. And by the way, Clinton was up

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Speaker 2: two point eight and Trump one in twenty sixteen. Now,

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Speaker 2: if you look at the most recent polls, let me

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Speaker 2: just go through the most recent ones. The most recent

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Speaker 2: one was New York Times Sienna. That was a tie

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Speaker 2: forty eight to forty eight. The one before that was

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Speaker 2: Trump was plus one. The one before that was Trump

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Speaker 2: plus two. The one before that was Trump plus one.

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Speaker 2: The one before that was Harris plus two. The one

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Speaker 2: before that was a tie. The one before that was

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Speaker 2: Harris plus two. The one before that was Harris plus one.

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Speaker 2: The one before that was Trump plus two. So the

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Speaker 2: long and short of it is, Pennsylvania is really damn close,

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Speaker 2: all right, let's go through the other swing states. Arizona, Arizona.

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Speaker 2: I feel better about I think Trump is gonna win Arizona.

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Speaker 2: The current average is Trump plus two point six. Here

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Speaker 2: are the last several poles. The most recent Trump plus

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Speaker 2: three before that, Trump plus four before that, Trump plus

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Speaker 2: six before that, Trump plus one before that, Trump plus

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Speaker 2: two before that, Trump plus eight before that, Trump plus

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Speaker 2: two before that, a tie before that, Harris plus one.

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Speaker 2: So it's been pretty consistent for a while that Trump's

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Speaker 2: gotta lead. I think we win Arizona. How about Nevada, Nevada,

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Speaker 2: Trump's gotta lead, but it's closer. The average in Nevada

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Speaker 2: is Trump plus one. What are the most recent polls,

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Speaker 2: and this is a lot more spotty. The most recent

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Speaker 2: poll is Harris plus three before that, Trump plus six

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Speaker 2: before that, Harris plus one before that, Trump plus six

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Speaker 2: before that, Harris plus one before that, Trump plus two

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Speaker 2: before that, a tie. So Nevada, it depends on the turnout.

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Speaker 2: It's bumpy. I mean, we are leading in Nevada right now,

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Speaker 2: but narrowly.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: How about Wisconsin. Wisconsin is a really really important swing state.

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Speaker 2: After Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan are the two most important

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Speaker 2: swing states. The current Real Clear Politics average Harris is

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Speaker 2: up zero point three percent. Here are the most recent polls.

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Speaker 2: Harris plus two before that, Trump plus one before that,

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Speaker 2: Harris plus one before that, Trump plus one before that,

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Speaker 2: Harris plus two before that, Trump plus three before that,

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Speaker 2: a tie before that.

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Speaker 3: A tie.

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Speaker 2: So Wisconsin's another one that is raizor thin. How about Michigan. Michigan,

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Speaker 2: the average right now is Harris plus zero point nine.

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Speaker 2: Here are the most recent polls. The most recent is

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Speaker 2: a tie before that, Trump plus one before that, a

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Speaker 2: tie before that, Harris plus two before that, Trump plus

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Speaker 2: two before that, Harris plus one, then Harris plus three,

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Speaker 2: then Harris plus one, then a tie. Michigan is close,

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Speaker 2: but accord to the public polling, the Democrats have a

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Speaker 2: slight advantage. Let's take North Carolina. North Carolina. I think

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Speaker 2: we're gonna win North Carolina. The current average is Trump

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Speaker 2: plus one point five. Here are the most recent polls.

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Speaker 2: There was one that just came out New York Times

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Speaker 2: Siena that showed Harris plus two, but that's an outlier.

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Speaker 2: Here are all the previous polls. Trump plus two, Trump

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Speaker 2: Trump plus one, Harris plus one tie. I think we'll

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Speaker 2: end up winning North Carolina. But an open question in

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Speaker 2: North Carolina is what is the impact of the hurricane

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Speaker 2: And many of the areas hit are rider parts of

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Speaker 2: the state. Does that depress turnout? I certainly hope not,

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Speaker 2: but that is an X factor that no one has

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Speaker 2: a firm answer. All right, final swing states, talk about Georgia.

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Speaker 2: I think we'll win Georgia as well. The current average

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Speaker 2: is Trump plus one point nine. Here are the most

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Speaker 2: recent polls. The New York Times SANA poll showed Harris

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Speaker 2: Trump plus five, Trump plus one, Trump plus two, Trump

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Speaker 2: the end of the day, I think we win Georgia,

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Speaker 2: North Carolina, Arizona, and Pennsylvania, Michigan. In Wisconsin, Damned if

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Speaker 2: I know Trump wins those he wins. But if we don't,

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Speaker 2: we could be looking at President Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 1: our last show before election day. What is your challenge

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Speaker 1: to them?

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Speaker 3: Listen?

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Speaker 2: The question and every presidential election is are you better

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Speaker 2: off now than you were four years ago? On the merits,

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Speaker 2: it's not even close. You look at the economy. The

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Speaker 2: is worse than a train wreck. National security what both

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Speaker 2: public safety? We are seeing violent criminal, illegalaliens being released

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Speaker 2: every day. They are murdering Americans, they are raping women,

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Speaker 2: We've seen the greatest I think the greatest risk of

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Speaker 2: Think back under Donald Trump, and we had Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: we had prosperity, We had booming economic growth. People's lives

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Speaker 2: Safety and security was enhanced, the border was the safest

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Speaker 2: it had been in forty five years. Those are the

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Speaker 2: basic facts. That's the difference. And so I want to say,

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Speaker 2: listen the verdict listeners. I'm going to say a little

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Speaker 2: bit selfishly, I think we have the smartest, best informed,

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Speaker 2: most patriotic, most amazing listeners in the planet. You guys

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Speaker 2: are part of this discussion. Listen, Ben and I. All right,

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Speaker 2: it is right now Sunday night. It is one oh

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Speaker 2: It is one o four am. I've spent the entire

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Speaker 2: and I'm going to spend all day tomorrow on the

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Speaker 2: It's a little bit crazy. I don't know, actually think

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Speaker 2: how do we defend freedom. How do we fight to

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Speaker 2: I want to say, look, I have every confidence that

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Speaker 2: to vote on Tuesday. So I'm not even going to

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Speaker 2: You love America and you're going to vote no matter what.

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Speaker 2: So I want to encourage you. Of course you're going

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Speaker 2: spend time, sit down and make phone calls. Drive someone

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Speaker 2: have a call to action across this country. I know

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Speaker 2: you love our country. I'm really frightened about this election.

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Speaker 2: I'm hopeful, I'm optimistic. I said, I'm sixty forty, but

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Speaker 2: that forty scares the hell out of me. So I

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Speaker 2: want to call on our verdict, listeners, do not let

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Speaker 2: the forty come to pass. Spend your time Monday and

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Speaker 2: day so that when we're sitting there Tuesday night, we

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Speaker 3: Amen to that.

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Speaker 1: We will be back with you in some capacity, hopefully

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Speaker 1: on election night, and we'll at least be able to

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Speaker 1: talk more to you. Then, don't forget. We do the

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Speaker 1: show Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Share this podcast please. Hopefully it'll

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Speaker 1: my podcast. I'll keep you updated as well, the Ben

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Speaker 1: see you back here tomorrow