1 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're not talking about the 2 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: Carter six, no comments at this time, not taking questions 3 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: I have to ask, no taking questions, but we are 4 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: taking your questions. 5 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 2: The listeners of NFL Daily. 6 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal here in the Chris Wesley podcast studio 7 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: with my friends Patrick Laban and Jordan Rodrigue of The Athletic, 8 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: and we're answering mail bag questions. 9 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 3: Let's go, Yes we are. 10 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 4: Unless they pertain to the recently released album with significant 11 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 4: features all across the musical landscape. 12 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: No, we're not discussing those. You'll have to find my 13 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: texts with our old coworker Andrew Groover. They're going to 14 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: stay there. Let's get right to the mail bag. We 15 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: asked for your questions. I wanted to make sure we 16 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: got to them before we were totally broken apart for 17 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: the off season. So here's one from Trevor. 18 00:00:58,200 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 5: I like this. 19 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: He says, will brock Purty finish his contract with Kyle Shanahan. 20 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence, who still. 21 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: As his head coach. This is top Trevor. This is 22 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: the top Trevor on Blue Sky where we asked for 23 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: the questions, what do you think I like that. 24 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 3: I like this. I think that's the hope for everybody. 25 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 3: I don't think you could ever speak in definitives when 26 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 3: you talk about the NFL with injuries and burnout and 27 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 3: all kinds of things, whether it's the player or the coach. 28 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 3: But like, yeah, I oh, without Kyle Shanahan. Guess no, 29 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 3: I did not read that correctly. I think that they 30 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 3: will finish. I think that they'll finish this contract together 31 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 3: as a cohesive unit that has probably some very interesting 32 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 3: stories to share long after both of them retire. 33 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the narrative benefits Kyle Shanahan in this 34 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 4: instance where they find a quarterback literally mister irrelevant, and 35 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 4: it's like, oh, Kyle Shanahan is uplifting this player in 36 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 4: making him look a certain way. But I think the 37 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 4: contract proves it that like Rock Party is Rock Party, 38 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 4: Like this is a singularly talented in his particular skill 39 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 4: set type of quarterback, but he's going to be linked 40 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 4: to Kyle Shanahan forever until I mean, Kyle Shanahan is 41 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 4: probably going to coach for twenty more years. 42 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: So well, I'm officially higher on Rock Party now than consensus. Well, 43 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: based on that episode, we did earlier this offseason. 44 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 3: We spent so many years just like not wanting to 45 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 3: not wanting to see it one year year, so many 46 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 3: weeks and months. 47 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: Players, you know, players improve, analysts improve. This is a 48 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: two part question because first of all, he has to 49 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: get to the end of the contract, you know, roughly 50 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: twenty thirty. Even if they tacked on more years, I'm 51 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: not counting that, so twenty thirty, so he would have 52 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: to get to the end. Kyle Shanahan would still have 53 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: to be the forty nine Ers head coach. Then both 54 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 1: the things have to happen. So you're saying, is there 55 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: a chance, I mean, of course there's a I would 56 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 1: say there's a decent chance. What are the odds that 57 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan is still the forty nine Ers head coach 58 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: in five or six years? Is this the guy who 59 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: burns that that candle? Like he seemed pretty burnt out 60 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: by the end of it. You only need to have 61 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: like kind of one bad season for it all to 62 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: go wrong. If I had to guess, are they still 63 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: a tandem in twenty thirty or not? 64 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 2: I think it's not. 65 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: I just because so many things can happen, whether it's 66 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: the pretty side or the Shanahan side. I really don't 67 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: think Shanahan and John Lynch are lasting that long, but 68 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: that's not a hot I. 69 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 3: Think they fit together, honestly. I think that one of 70 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 3: the regrets of certain members of that coaching tree was 71 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 3: to not have kept Kirk long term or been able 72 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 3: to be a partnership with Kirk Cousins long term. I 73 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 3: think that Kyle Shanahan understands that. I think he is. 74 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 3: They compliment each other very well personality wise. They even 75 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 3: with took the burnout and even with the potential for 76 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 3: injury and just you know, general fatigue or deterioration of 77 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 3: a player, they just they match. And I think that 78 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 3: Kyle has been through enough in his career, even when 79 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 3: he was much younger and still experiencing high level things 80 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 3: in the coaching world. I think he's been through enough 81 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 3: to understand that when you find that you stick with 82 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 3: it as long as you can, because the grass isn't 83 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 3: always greener. 84 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: You've convinced me, and if Purtty is. 85 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 3: Just like I convinced you on, if he's just as. 86 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: Good as we think he is, then it'll go well 87 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: and they'll just be there. But that it's a long 88 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: time in NFL years, speaking of which I mean, it 89 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: feels like Tyreek Hill's Dolphin's career has already been a journey. 90 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: It's only been a handful of years. Our next question 91 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: is from Matt Arroy Hosts and he asks, if Tyreek 92 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: gets traded at some point, what's your confidence level that 93 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: Waddle can step in and become a number one on 94 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: his own? And I wanted to expand this to like, 95 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: do we I think Tyreek will get traded. 96 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 5: I don't think Tyrek Hill is going to get traded. 97 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 4: I think collectively, and it's not just it can be 98 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 4: vibes based, but the things that Tua and Mike Mack 99 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 4: are saying and also Tyreek Hill, it collectively feels like 100 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 4: everybody knows that this is the last This is the 101 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 4: last dance for this rendition of the Miami Dolphins unless 102 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 4: they're successful. And I don't see the world and where 103 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 4: they're more successful by trading Tyreek Hill and getting what 104 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 4: I'm assuming is future draft picks and not necessarily a 105 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 4: player who's going to impact things immediately. So I don't 106 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 4: think Tyreek Hill is going to get traded. And yeah, 107 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 4: we saw we saw Wattle in a season in his 108 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 4: rookie year without Tyreek Hill being a viable number one, 109 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 4: having only one hundred and fifteen catches. 110 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 2: Right, that's a fair point. 111 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: So however you want to define one, like, does that 112 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: make him a top ten receiver league? 113 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 2: No, I would not say. 114 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 3: That, but if volume one is usually defined. 115 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's somewhere in the twenty range. And does he 116 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: have more to give? 117 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? 118 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: I think he is that good. I think his contract 119 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: is worth it. The scenario for Tyreek getting traded is 120 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: that they're two and five before the trade deadline and 121 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: ownership makes them because he's like, I don't see a 122 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: future with this current group. But that would essentially be 123 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: more or less giving up, which is it's it's a 124 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: little hard to like those trades just don't happen. 125 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 4: And it could ultimately lead to like an AFC bidding 126 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 4: war among contenders to not just to get Tyreek kill, 127 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 4: but to keep somebody else from getting Tyre kill. 128 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 2: The NFL did move that trade deadline back. I liked one. 129 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 3: I hope they keep doing that, Like, I want it 130 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 3: in you know, mid November. I want it after Thanksgiving 131 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 3: when football really begins. 132 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: It's still it's still early November, but that is a 133 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: step in the right direction, all right. Our next question 134 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: is from Timothy and he asked, will Aaron Rodgers be 135 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: a better number eight than tat Tommy Maddox for the Steelers. 136 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: I think it's a I think that's a pretty high bar, 137 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: actually a higher bar than most non Steelers fans would say, 138 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: because Steelers fans, I think, would say Tommy Gunn got 139 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: us into the playoffs and gave us some fun, like 140 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: we had fun with Tommy Gunn. 141 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say no, that's my answer. 142 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 3: I like good quarterback nicknames. 143 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 4: I'm a fan of that, I think because I think 144 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 4: the answer is yes. But also it's instructive in that 145 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 4: when they went on that run, Tommy Maddox threw sixteen 146 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 4: interceptions and he threw twenty touchdowns and he was out 147 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 4: there taking chances. 148 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 5: And Aaron Rodgers is so safe, hmmm, is so safe? 149 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 4: Like I think if Aaron Rodgers throw sixteen interceptions, it's 150 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 4: gonna ultimately be a good thing because he's out there 151 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:46,239 Speaker 4: taking risks and it not only makes the Steelers more watchable, 152 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 4: like we love watching Aaron Rodgers throw the football. We 153 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 4: don't like Aaron Rodgers throwing the football to people on 154 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 4: the sideline and support staff, So like, go out there 155 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 4: and try, like, let's do it. Don't worry about the stats. 156 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd like to see him go a little bit 157 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 3: devil make care in the latest, latest, latest, latest stages 158 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 3: of his career. I think that that would whether it 159 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 3: goes well or is a complete disaster, it is something 160 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 3: so exciting for that fan base have been waiting for 161 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 3: a while. 162 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 2: This is really just an excuse for me to talk 163 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 2: about Tommy. 164 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 3: Maddock do it another advisor guy. We've been talking a 165 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 3: lot over the last couple shows about people who can 166 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 3: pull off avisor Tommy Maddox can pull off avisor. 167 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,239 Speaker 2: So he won that playoff game. 168 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 3: Important detail include in this segment. 169 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: Against the Browns, and it was I believe the Browns 170 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: first playoff game as the new Cleveland franchise, thirty six 171 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: to thirty three. Remember watching that with noted Steelers fan, 172 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: my fan, my friend Anthony jessel Nick. And then the 173 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: next week they lost thirty four to thirty one. So 174 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: Tommy Maddox is putting up thirty points in back to 175 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: back weeks in the playoffs. 176 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 2: He won comeback player of. 177 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: The Year that that season they went, they went seven 178 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: to three in his starts in the regular season, taking 179 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: over for Cordell Stewart. I mean they were the you know, 180 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: a super Bowl favorite, probably the favorite other than the Rams, 181 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: certainly in the AFC like the year before. And he 182 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: takes over for Cordell Stewart. It's a lot of controversy. 183 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: He wins Comeback Player of the Year and what was 184 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: he coming back from. He was coming back from being 185 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: Tommy Maddox. He had not thrown more than ten passes 186 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: in a season for eight seasons. That is a that 187 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: is a geno Smith like like times two time in 188 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: the wilderness that you are in the NFL. But he 189 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: literally didn't throw a pass for six straight years. Then 190 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: he threw seven. And then he comes in and has 191 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: this this. 192 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 3: Renaissidevin as Lucky number seven. 193 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 5: Yes, because he kind of petermanded his rookie year. 194 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 195 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 4: It was was handing the ball to the other team 196 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 4: a whole lot. 197 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was a first round pick. 198 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: It didn't go well, and then he just was spending 199 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: all sorts of time and that was you know, people, 200 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 1: I don't I don't think Aaron Rodgers is going to 201 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: reach those sides. I mean, thirty points in back to 202 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: back playoff games, jokes aside is a real thing. He 203 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: was playing at a high level. So I think if 204 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: they got that sort of season out of Rodgers, they'd 205 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: be pumped. 206 00:09:58,280 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 2: Win one playoff game played. 207 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: I mean, can we keep a playoff game, you know, 208 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: under a twenty point loss Steelers, that would be nice. 209 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 3: I just personally feel it's important to note for the 210 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 3: record that that two thousand and two season I was ten. 211 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not to note that not going to be 212 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 2: in your wheelhouse. For the record, I was not working 213 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 2: in football at the time. Well, I was a little 214 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 2: bit Fox Sports Highlights. That was fun. 215 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 1: What are the chances that the book written about Caleb 216 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: Williams and Quarterbacks derails the Bears season and Caleb's career 217 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: in Chicago if the Bears are below five hundred in 218 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 1: November and this is from Clive Zero. 219 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 3: Club, zero chance. Because a it is a book about 220 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 3: the American quarterback in general, the rise of the position, 221 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 3: the history of the position, the sociology of the position, 222 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 3: the psychology of the position. Knowing Seth Wickersham the author 223 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 3: a little bit, it's about so much more than Caleb Williams. 224 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 3: And the only people who could potentially derail Caleb Williams's 225 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 3: career in Chicago are Caleb Williams and all the people 226 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 3: in Chicago. 227 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 2: You know, they're going to have patients. 228 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: This is not like being under five hundred in November 229 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: is not that crazy or unexpected of a result. They 230 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: could be like two and seven and it's going to 231 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: be hot and it's going to be a problem. But 232 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: they are going to be patient with this group, and 233 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to happen to. 234 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, how people play and execute the game is ultimately 235 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 4: what determines things. And if if Pallas intrigued from seth 236 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 4: Wickersham is what derails things, then how many super Bowl 237 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 4: should the Patriots have won? 238 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 1: Also, it already happened, right, great point, Another great book. 239 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: I Uh, that's a great point. If anything, you could say, 240 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: it's sort. 241 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 5: Of yeah, maybe maybe it makes everybody trying to. 242 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 3: Trial Dynasty incoming twenty four. 243 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 4: Twenty sixteen, or it doesn't matter, and like you just 244 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 4: have to score more points than. 245 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 5: The other two. 246 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 3: Yes, and I am excited to read that book. 247 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: I will say I am too. Our next question is 248 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: from Andy. He says, if the Yes, if the the 249 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: NFL had an award for the world would be a 250 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: better place if there were more people like you who 251 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: would be some candidates can be players, coaches, staff, front 252 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 1: office owners. 253 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 2: I feel like you got a lot of people. 254 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 3: I have so many people. I wasn't prepared for this. 255 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 3: I wasn't even looking at these questions before we started. 256 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 3: I can think like I mentioned him on previous show, 257 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 3: Julius Pepper's Kurk Coleman, Thomas Davis, Uh, Eric Reid. Let's see, 258 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 3: I'm thinking of people who I was with in Caroline Taylor, Taylor, Moton, 259 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 3: Chris Manhertz who was always checking over Chris mental health, 260 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 3: JJ Janssen, Rob Havenstein here in Los Angeles, Uh, Puka 261 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 3: Nakula Epitome of Joy. You know so so many people, 262 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 3: John spy Tech, really really good person. Brian Xanders who's 263 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,479 Speaker 3: going over in in to take a scouting job in Jacksonville, 264 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 3: Taylor More not Moton, but Morton, who is in a 265 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 3: lead role in the Rams franchise. Right now, I'm just 266 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 3: naming like under. 267 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 2: You did a great job. 268 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 3: I'm naming like under the Radar people minus Puka, because 269 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 3: I don't. We don't give a lot of these people 270 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 3: like a ton of pop all the time. But there 271 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 3: are so many good people in every corner of this league. 272 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 3: It is just when the world feels bad and scary, 273 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 3: it is really important to remember, like how many good 274 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 3: people there are. And there are so many good people 275 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 3: in every locker room and all thirty two of these teams, 276 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 3: and it's just awesome. 277 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 2: Well said Chris Pabona. 278 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: Asked, isn't that just the Walter Payton Man of the Year, 279 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 1: And I say no, not really, because that's that's service 280 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: in your community. 281 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 3: And this there Andrew Whitworth. Everyone should be more like 282 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 3: Andrew Whitwork. 283 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: They are great, great people, of course, but we're highlighting 284 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: our own. And I think it's just more like this 285 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: is more about like what they're bringing energy wise to 286 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: everyone around them. 287 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 4: And not just because he was a Man of the 288 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 4: Year winter. But kalais Campbell, right, it's so many like 289 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 4: all good dude, not under anybody's right our first wall 290 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 4: because he's massive, but he has those you know, those 291 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 4: official corporate awards and recognition. But then you saw like 292 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 4: when his teammate was being assaulted by the police, Kalaius 293 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 4: Campbell was literally there. Yeah, this is it wasn't just 294 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 4: talk and like you know, organizing. Also, like he took action. 295 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 3: Immediately, Bobby Wagner, he does. 296 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: That for other people as well, So like, yeah, feel 297 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: like coaches were underrepresented here. 298 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 2: Let's start Tamiko Ryans. I think he would be a 299 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 2: good one. 300 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: There were more people like Damiko Ryans, the world would 301 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: be a better place. Let's go to a surprising question 302 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: from a guy who goes by first down Punts on 303 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: Blue Sky, and he said, chances that Joe Mixon is 304 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: cut or traded after Nick Chubb's signings. 305 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 2: And I just wanted to bring this. 306 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: Up, not to dismiss this question, because yeah, I agree, 307 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: I think it's zero, but to point out that Joe 308 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: Mixon has spoken really highly of Nick Chubb in the past. 309 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: They came out in the exact same class. I think, 310 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: like game recognizes game, and in a perfect world where 311 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: Nick Chubb is feeling and healthier this year, those two 312 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: guys are gonna have a ton of fun together, I believe. 313 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 5: Yeah. 314 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 4: Well, I mean the name first down punts probably hearkens 315 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 4: to some of those Brian Hoyer Texans era and so 316 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 4: like I understand where the proficiency for negativity could come from. 317 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 4: But yeah, I think I wrote slim and none on 318 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 4: my notes because yeah, they're going now. 319 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: There's no Also, no matter how good Chubb looks in 320 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: training camp, I don't think you're gonna just blindly have 321 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: faith that he is your main guy. My great thing 322 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: I think for both of them is they're just a 323 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: backup plan for each other. Clearly Chubb is is going 324 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: to be the backup. But like if mix and miss 325 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: Mi misses a game, then you have Chub waiton. 326 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a it's a one two punch at times too. 327 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 3: If that serves to be helpful, you know you're you're 328 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 3: not giving such a heavy workload on either one of 329 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 3: those players if you can work them in tandem a 330 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 3: little bit more. But Joe Mixon, other than when he 331 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 3: was hurt, he like carried that offense many weeks and 332 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 3: looks excellent, looks like he's aging in reverse. I hope 333 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 3: the same for Nick Chubb because when he's on, he's 334 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 3: such a special player. 335 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they also drafted. 336 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 3: The also a good person who makes people around him better. 337 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 2: Yes. 338 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 5: C J. 339 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: Stroud said at first he didn't like recognize Nick Chubb 340 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: when he saw him in the locker room, and then 341 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: he got a little starstruck because like I used to 342 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: watch Nick Chubb and he's just such a good player. 343 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: And now you think, like, oh, yeah, it's true, Like 344 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: Nick Chubb's not that old. He's only been the NFL 345 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: what eight or nine years, But within those eight or 346 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: nine years, c J. Stroud was literally in high school. Yeah, 347 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: you know, watching him like just amazing. Rack up big 348 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: numbers higher number this year, Miles Garrett, Sachs Patrick or 349 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase touchdowns. 350 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 4: The safer pick is Garrett at sacks because you know 351 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 4: he's he's done that consistently, consistently, more longer. But Jamar 352 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 4: had seventeen touchdown nteen last season, so that would eclipse 353 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 4: any Garrett season. But Miles average is fourteen point nine, 354 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 4: so the safe pick is going to be Miles sack. 355 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: Garrett is the first player in NFL history to have 356 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,959 Speaker 1: more than fourteen sacks in four street seasons. 357 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 2: I think he's still at his peaks. All go Gerett, Yeah, 358 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 2: close enough. 359 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 3: Honestly, my first instinct was, of course, it's Jamar Chase touchdowns. 360 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 3: Watching the stat line from last year, but then you 361 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 3: convinced me, Patrick, because the averages really kind of work 362 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 3: in Miles Garrett's favor. 363 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 4: Frankly, but you know, Jamar does play the Ravens twice, 364 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 4: so he could have sixteen touchdowns this year. 365 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: Or andre Yoshovask could score like, you know, fifteen touchdowns 366 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: this year if he keeps his rate up of scoring 367 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 1: touchdowns per catch. Do run hot heavy offenses takeover in 368 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five? This is from Stage eight Final Boss 369 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: great name or did we see a high water mark 370 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,479 Speaker 1: of the run heavy offenses last season? 371 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 3: M I mean, I think I don't think that this 372 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 3: is a cycle that's by any means over Once the 373 00:17:55,400 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 3: run game first, okay, first it was the guards, right first, 374 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 3: the guards got bigger. Okay, Then the run game started 375 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,239 Speaker 3: ascending across the league, and even before that, defense has 376 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 3: got lighter to counter the passing game. And then the 377 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 3: guards got bigger, and then the run game got more 378 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 3: consistent and started to pop. Then the outliers started to 379 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 3: pop the run game, which increased the market for running backs. 380 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 3: And now we're seeing sort of the mean, I think 381 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 3: the mean years of what this cycle is going to be. 382 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 3: What will happen next? Is then the tight ends are 383 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 3: going to start working in more twelve personnel to make 384 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 3: the run game then even more effective, and then to 385 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 3: get heavier. Definitely seeing that, and then you're going to 386 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 3: see the defenses get bigger to count, You're going to 387 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 3: see more hybrid safeties, You're going to see more hybrid linebackers. 388 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden, something's going to come 389 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 3: along that snaps all of us back to twenty seventeen 390 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 3: and we start all over again. Thank you very much, 391 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 3: laves and gentlemen. 392 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,959 Speaker 4: I think, right, it's more of a reflection of the 393 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 4: players in respective systems, and because as information sharing becomes 394 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 4: more ubiquitous, right, and more people are working off the 395 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 4: same bits of like provable days to teams and coaches 396 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 4: are adjusting their usage to the skill set. And like 397 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 4: we had seven guys carry the ball three hundred or 398 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 4: more times last season, and all but two of them 399 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 4: have previously done it, right, It was the first time 400 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 4: for Bijon, it was the first time for Kyraen Williams, 401 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 4: and I like Sakwan Derrick, Henry, Josh Jacobs, Jonathan Taylor. 402 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 4: If those guys are healthy, they're going to carry the 403 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 4: ball a lot, and so like, it's not like two 404 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 4: thousand and four when Dominic Williams was carrying the ball 405 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 4: three hundred times, Like, if you don't have one of 406 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 4: those guys, then I doubt a team is going to 407 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 4: devote significant resources to that style of play because like why, 408 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 4: like your skills are probably aligned elsewhere, and so I 409 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 4: don't know like this, like Jordan said, the cycle is 410 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 4: going to come back, but I think it's more related 411 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 4: to the personnel, like Ashton Genty may see the Raiders 412 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 4: carries go up, but I don't know how much it 413 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 4: changes league wide. 414 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: Shout out to Dominic Davis and originally changing his name 415 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: to Dominic Williams. If you're like a fantasy head back 416 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: in the odds, I was like, didn't you mean Dominic 417 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 1: Davis Son's Oh yeah, that was pre name change. 418 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 419 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: I think this is the year after the trend really 420 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: got super charged in terms of run heavy offenses. So no, 421 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: it's the copycat league where actually the earliest that it 422 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: could start, you know, backsliding would be next year, because 423 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 1: I think we're going to overdose on it now. But 424 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 1: I think it's I think in terms of the overall league, 425 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: the trend is going to continue. 426 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 4: And that's the question for fantasy heads, Like who's that 427 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 4: running back is getting carries that he shouldn't. 428 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 3: Be the outliers, Yeah, you have to look at the outliers. 429 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 3: And then also, like, the thing about sustaining this is 430 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 3: that you have to be able to move people to 431 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 3: holistically shift the league, like physically move them off the 432 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 3: line of scrimmage, to shift the league fully into sustaining 433 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 3: this for not just a couple of years of a cycle, 434 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 3: but multiple generations of players. And whereas on the converse, 435 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 3: what you can always regardless of a wide range of 436 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 3: skill set at one position. And also, of course keeping 437 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 3: the quarterback. I always say this around continuous continuit to 438 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 3: continue keeping the quarterback the same, the position relatively the same, 439 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 3: Like you can space and scheme up the passing game 440 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 3: in ways that yes, you can sort of do that 441 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 3: with the run game, but it doesn't work if you 442 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 3: can't consistently move people over years and years and years 443 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 3: and years. 444 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 2: I like the question. I like that it's getting deep. 445 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 3: I know we can do a whole episode on that, 446 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 3: good question. 447 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 2: Maybe we will. 448 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: Speaking of episodes, our next question is from a guy 449 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: on Blue Sky dirist bear who asks will QB Island 450 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: return and will have more formal rules or. 451 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 2: Be more lord of the flies? 452 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 1: Sneak some questions, not even a sneak this, I take 453 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: that personally. 454 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 2: It did have rules. 455 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 3: And Greg just shirked them. 456 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: Like all rules, there's some wiggle room and in terms 457 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: of legality, QB Island will definitely be back. I love 458 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: this next question. It's from Socks and Boots, and yes, 459 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: we'll do a QB Island episode, certainly before the season 460 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: during training camp. 461 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 2: I would say it will be the next time. 462 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 3: I planning Greg, I've been sowing the seeds of ally 463 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 3: ship with certain individuals. 464 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 5: Wow, I've already got machinations. 465 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll have to do an episode while Jordan's on vacation. 466 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: I love this question. It was pretty deep. It basically said, 467 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: is there any opponent with enough juice to get the 468 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: Texans out of the traditional West of His spot? Assuming 469 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: that the Texans win the AFC South this year and 470 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: get the four seed. 471 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:43,719 Speaker 2: This is my kind of question. Now. 472 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: The West of His Spot is the early Saturday afternoon 473 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: first playoff game, generally given to the teams that they 474 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: think will have the lowest television ratings. For whatever reason, 475 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 1: was usually the Andy Dalton ben go for many years. 476 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: But the Texans have taken over and they own that 477 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: spot now it's always the Texans spot. And so the 478 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: question is is there anyone that they could even play 479 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: in that game that would have enough juice to get 480 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 1: to wrench the Texans out? And it's funny that you're 481 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 1: just assuming that the Texans are a four seed too. 482 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: That kind of cracks me up. 483 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 4: What do you think, Well, clearly right the dudes, if 484 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 4: it's Josh or Yes or Patrick or Lamar right or Joe. 485 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 4: But then Bengals Texans takes us right back to the 486 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 4: og west of US, right, So like does that count? 487 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: But does Burro they are a national team now in 488 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 1: a way that they weren't, then does Burrow's heat get 489 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: them out of that spot? 490 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 2: It should? To me, that's more of a Saturday night game. 491 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 2: I agree. 492 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 1: I think any of those quarterbacks, if they were stuck 493 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: as a wild card, would wrench the Texans out of 494 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: it and wrench any AFC South. 495 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 2: Team out of it. 496 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: The Texans, you know, Houston's a big spot. That's a footballwn. 497 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: We got stars there, Nico and CJ. 498 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 3: Beyonce was there. Hey, they performed there. 499 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: They were trying to kind of make the Texans were 500 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: in that that Christmas and Saturday game window with all 501 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: the big wigs. So yes, I don't think the Texans 502 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 1: are stuck there forever. 503 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 5: C J. 504 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 2: Stroud's big time player. 505 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 1: All Right, our last question will our second to last question, 506 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: will Trevor Lawrence or Baker Mayfield have a better season? 507 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: I figured you guys would be the ones to ask this. 508 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Baker. I can't not, you know, like 509 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 3: team Baker. I mean, this thing is I love the 510 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence is going to have Liam Cohen. I love 511 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 3: the pairing of Liam Cohen and Grant Jinski, who was 512 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 3: in Minnesota most recently under Kevin O'Connell. I love val 513 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 3: Travis Hunter being there. I love Brian Thomas. I think 514 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 3: that this has all the makings of an offense on 515 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 3: the rise. But the Bucks are already here. They're already here, 516 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 3: and they have to come out of the gate their 517 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 3: foot on the gas, and I think they will. And 518 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 3: I think Baker is going to do that thing where 519 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 3: he just takes on this like demon Baker. You know, 520 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 3: He's like he just becomes this like other version of 521 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 3: himself on the field, that's like getting in people's face 522 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 3: masks and bringing everybody up with him. And then Mike 523 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 3: Evans and Chris Godwin are so chill and get along 524 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 3: with everybody, and then Baker's like screaming, and I just 525 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 3: I love the dynamics of that team. 526 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's there's a little Tyrese Haliburton in Baker's game. 527 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 528 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 4: When it looks good, it's like, wow, this guy is untouchable. 529 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 4: And when it looks weird, it's like, what's what's going on? 530 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 4: What's what's the ultimate player here? Like why are you 531 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 4: doing this? And for for Trevor, like we've seen when 532 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 4: he when they're able to execute at a very high level, 533 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 4: it's like, wow, okay, yeah number one overall big, Like 534 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 4: I see, I see why all this happened. And there's 535 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 4: for me like better season dictates like division success mm M. 536 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 4: And I feel like considering all the injury issues that 537 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 4: the Colts are dealing with, like I think if if 538 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 4: Dimes does have to play five games, that's one thing. 539 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 4: The Texans, of course are their own problem, but I 540 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 4: think in the South with the Titans trying to figure 541 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 4: things out, like maybe, oh, the season long propositions are 542 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 4: better in Douval. 543 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 5: So I'll say. 544 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: I do worry the off season's been so long that 545 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to circle back on my how good 546 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: the Bucks are going to be because I do think 547 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 1: the expectations are going to be higher and can Baker 548 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: be as consistent? 549 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 5: You know? 550 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: And this is now going to be year three there 551 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 1: with another coordinator, but ultimately, yeah, I'm going Baker. I 552 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: am going to I'm not going to do the thing 553 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: where I just start countering my own arguments because the 554 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: off season has been too long, I believe. 555 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,479 Speaker 3: I have to say. I have to say, like, what 556 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 3: one part of believing in the in the Bucks, And 557 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 3: you're going to have to I'll send over the welcome 558 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 3: basket for this as well. Like you have to make 559 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 3: sure you go into the Baker Mayfield experience not really 560 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 3: expecting total consistency everywhere. You expect it to be like 561 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 3: an MDMA laced roller coaster ride throughout the entire season, 562 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 3: and ultimately you buy in because this guy wills his 563 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 3: team to win, and he's got the like all heart 564 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 3: and the personality and like the thing that brings people 565 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 3: with him that I still have. I have always spoken 566 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 3: up for Trevor Lawrence. Remember last season, I was the 567 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 3: one who's like, get that coaching staff out of here, 568 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 3: get him a better coaching staff, get this guy on track. 569 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,959 Speaker 3: He could be great. I believe in Trevor Lawrence. I 570 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 3: just believe in that like that little extra, like intangible 571 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 3: thing that Baker Mayfield clearly has. 572 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: With this Bucks team, A little some something, you guys, Well, season, 573 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: we've got it. As a show. The end of the 574 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 1: off season is here, at least what the NFL calls 575 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: an off season, the minne Camsta. So the real NFL 576 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: off season is actually just starting right now. And so 577 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: our last question is actually from Tequila Guy seventy seven 578 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: on Blue Sky. 579 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 2: He asks, is football back? 580 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 5: He answers no,