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Speaker 1: And we are back on Dale Lolly. He is con

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Speaker 1: and Matt let's jump right into it. Here with the

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Speaker 3: It's the right I mean, you need to see him.

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Speaker 1: Far As like Ingram and guys like that. I don't

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Speaker 3: I don't like any Jags this week.

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Speaker 1: by Steelers wide receiver Van Jefferson. How you doing Van good?

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Speaker 1: How you doing good good? It's an exciting time here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, of course, I mean I'm always watching football, but

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Speaker 3: How do Bye week treat you? Did you get away

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Speaker 1: So a couple of weeks ago, you play against the Jets,

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Speaker 3: as you mentioned, you know Atlanta and the Rams. Do

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Speaker 3: the Steelers stress blocking from your position more or less

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Speaker 3: about the same as other teams.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think in this offense, you know, you have

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Speaker 5: to be more you know about the blocking. You know,

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Speaker 5: I think, uh, you know, coach Ard and co Z

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Speaker 5: put a big emphasis on that as receivers, you know,

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Speaker 5: you know, just doing our job and helping the running

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Speaker 5: back spring you know, long run. So I think, you know,

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Speaker 5: it's a very attention to detail type of thing, and

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Speaker 5: you know there's something that you know, you know, they

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Speaker 5: they harp on. So you know, I think as a

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Speaker 5: receiving corps, as a collective, we all just you know,

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Speaker 5: try to do our best and you know, make sure

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Speaker 5: that we're on our right assignments, you know to springing

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Speaker 5: like Naj and Cordell and Jail and Free.

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Speaker 4: So you know, we just trying to do our job.

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Speaker 1: We've seen this passing game kind of open up a

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Speaker 1: little bit the last couple of weeks here with with

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, I think he's number two in the league

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Speaker 1: over the last two if you looked at it, over

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Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy yards passing in those two games.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like you guys are just kind of

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Speaker 1: tapping into that now a little bit more? Uh, With

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Speaker 1: with the passing game, and that's something you're gonna need

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Speaker 1: down the road.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like I said, you know, yeah, Russ has done

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Speaker 5: a dry job of him coming in there. He's you know,

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Speaker 5: executing the offense. But you know, you know, we don't

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Speaker 5: get to this point without Justin too as well. Justin

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Speaker 5: played a big part in this, and he played a

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Speaker 5: big part in us getting to this, getting us to

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Speaker 5: sixty two. So but like you said, yeah, Russ has

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Speaker 5: done a great.

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Speaker 4: Job coming in.

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Speaker 5: He's spreading the ball around, getting it downfield. So it's

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Speaker 5: something that we're definitely gonna need and you know, down

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Speaker 5: the road. And I've always said, you know, of course,

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Speaker 5: you know in the red zone, that's kind of where.

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Speaker 4: We got to. That's Achilles here right now.

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Speaker 5: We gotta kind of work on that and we love

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Speaker 5: Boz but you know, obviously we want to get some

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Speaker 5: touchdowns to as well.

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Speaker 4: But but it's been great though.

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Speaker 5: Russ has been coming in, he's been done a great job,

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Speaker 5: and you know, we're just kind of can execute and

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Speaker 5: like I said, we've got a big one Sunday, so hopefully,

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Speaker 5: you know, we can get it going.

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Speaker 3: It was Russ's command of the huddle and experience just

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Speaker 3: extremely obvious as soon as he got in.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, you're talking about a Super Bowl temp,

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Speaker 5: you know, someone that has played the game for a

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Speaker 5: long time, so you can obviously see the experience that

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Speaker 5: he has and how much command he has on the offense.

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Speaker 5: And you know, he's just very calm back there, very

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Speaker 5: natural and natural born leader, you know, And I think

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Speaker 5: it's all rubbing off on the guys, and you know,

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Speaker 5: we just we keep going, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 5: and he pushes us to keep going, and especially in practice,

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Speaker 5: you know, you know, telling us a lock in and

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Speaker 5: things of that nature. So you can just already tell,

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Speaker 5: you know, the experience that he has, and you know

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Speaker 5: he's done a great joss.

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Speaker 4: He's been in there.

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Speaker 1: You guys compare Super Bowl rings. People forget that you

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Speaker 1: won one too.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, I would like to see his I'm

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Speaker 5: ask him to see if you tell me a picture

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Speaker 5: of him and not show him pitts of mind and

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Speaker 5: see who has a better one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So when you have that kind of experience, was

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Speaker 1: that something that you feel like this attracted to Steelers

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Speaker 1: to you because a lot of the guys that they

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Speaker 1: collected this offseason the veteran guys kind of had some

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Speaker 1: of that experience.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you know, for I think as you know,

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Speaker 5: like I said, having the experience as good too as well.

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Speaker 5: But you know, I think, you know, I just wanted

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Speaker 5: to come in and you know, earn the trust of

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Speaker 5: my teammates and my coaches, you know whatever. Whatever they

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Speaker 5: saw me, obviously they took a chance on me and

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Speaker 5: wanted me to come in. But you know, I think

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Speaker 5: my part here is just to like I said, earn

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Speaker 5: the trust of my coaches and my teammates, and you know,

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Speaker 5: just wanted to come in and prove, you know, that

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Speaker 5: I can be a guy that can trust on and

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Speaker 5: could come in and play. But you know, whatever attract

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Speaker 5: to them, I'm grateful for grateful for the opportunity, always thankful,

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Speaker 5: and you know, I'm glad to be here, and uh,

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Speaker 5: you know, just want to keep going down the road

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Speaker 5: and keep winning.

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Speaker 3: It was a while ago, Van, but how much did

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Speaker 3: you and Michael and Corderell, you know, act as almost

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Speaker 3: like teachers of the Falcon and Arthur Smith offense coming

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Speaker 3: up here from Atlanta.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, Art, you know, pretty much brought you know,

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Speaker 5: some of the same stuff he had in Atlanta, and

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Speaker 5: you know, I just wanted to be a tool for

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Speaker 5: the guys and helping him.

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Speaker 4: Learning as fast as they can.

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Speaker 5: Obviously a lot of stuff that I needed to learn too,

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Speaker 5: that new stuff that he put in, But for the

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Speaker 5: most part, you know, just wanted to help guys, you know,

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Speaker 5: learn as fast as they can with the offense.

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Speaker 4: And those guys picked it up quick.

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Speaker 5: And so I think it's especially for Mike Cold and

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Speaker 5: Cordial too as well. I know those guys help, you know,

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Speaker 5: the running backs out and the tight ends to pick

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Speaker 5: it up quick. And as you can see, you know,

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Speaker 5: we're all we're clicking right now. So you know, our

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Speaker 5: has done a great job with the installs of making

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Speaker 5: it easy and you know, not putting too much on guys.

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Speaker 5: So you know, the transition was move and obviously you

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Speaker 5: know I played a we try to play a part

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Speaker 5: in that to help.

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Speaker 4: All those other guys out.

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Speaker 1: Our guest is a Van Jefferson Steelers wide receiver. One

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Speaker 1: last question for you before we let you go here.

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Speaker 1: Van does Arthur when he's talking to you guys drop

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Speaker 1: in some strange little references and stuff like he's he's

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Speaker 1: referencing like Napoleon when he talks to the media and

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Speaker 1: things like that, like just little things like that. Just

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Speaker 1: one coach, what are you talking about?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, we kind of get on him a

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Speaker 5: little bit. But our has his own language that you know,

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Speaker 5: he talks, you know, talks to us with and but

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Speaker 5: our is man.

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Speaker 4: He's been graciously been here.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 4: He's the ultimate competitor.

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Speaker 5: You know, like I said, he's always you know, talking

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Speaker 5: crast his defense, dinner in practice.

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Speaker 4: You know, he ready for the game. And but he's

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Speaker 4: been awesome, man.

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Speaker 5: And so you know, uh, like I said, he's been

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Speaker 5: making everything easy for us, easy, easy to learn. And

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Speaker 5: you know he's done a great jobs. He's been here

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Speaker 5: and you know, I love playing for him.

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Speaker 1: Well, we appreciate your time. Van. We'll let you go,

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Speaker 1: and you have a busy, busy schedule. Let you get

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Speaker 1: get get that all finished. He can watch the Bengals

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Speaker 1: and Ravens tonight. Our guest has been Van Jefferson, Steelers

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Speaker 1: wide receiver. He is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale, Lollie. You're

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Speaker 1: listening to the drive here on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: Matt now will be back with more right after this.

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Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

585
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Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven Home of the Block and

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Speaker 2: Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: And we are back on Dale Lallie. He is the

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson and this is the drive on to Steelers

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Speaker 1: Audio Network. And Jefferson was good.

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Speaker 3: There, very it's good, very interactive and open, do our

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Speaker 3: questions and all.

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Speaker 1: That good stuff. He's been.

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Speaker 3: He's been great in the locker room, I can imagine,

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Speaker 3: very bright. Yeah, absolutely, and that as a coach was

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Speaker 3: pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Which Mike Williams there you go, and Calvin

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Speaker 1: Johnson and Calvin Johnson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not bad.

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Speaker 1: I could be Calvin Johnson's coach. Yeah, just go do

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Speaker 1: keep doing what you're doing. When I when I started

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Speaker 1: covering the Steelers in nineteen ninety three, the the intern

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Speaker 1: in the PR department. His name was Mike Miller. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he was a PR intern, so.

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Speaker 4: He is.

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Speaker 1: As things went along, got to know some of the

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Speaker 1: coaches on the staff. And when Mike Malarkey got hired

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Speaker 1: as the head coach in Buffalo, he hired Mike as

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Speaker 1: like the offensive assistant. Yeah, football something or other, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So as things unfolded, when Ken wizen Hunt got hired

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Speaker 1: in Arizona as the head coach. He hired Mike as

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Speaker 1: his wide receivers coach.

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Speaker 3: I kind of know this story, yeah right, I mean

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Speaker 3: that's an interesting path to go to get into football.

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Speaker 1: So the Steelers go down to play the Cardinals and

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Speaker 1: Mike meets us out for drinks the night before the game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like on the staff at I'm like, Mike,

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Speaker 1: you got Larry Fitzgerald and Kwam Bolden, Like that's your

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Speaker 1: that's your your top three receivers. I'm like, what are

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Speaker 1: you telling those guys? Like, he's roll the ball out

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Speaker 1: there and have ad it, guys.

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Speaker 3: So side note, my, you know you brought up those names.

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Speaker 3: I've met a reference at a thousand times. I was

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Speaker 3: with Larry at pitt Well. Stevie was coming out of

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Speaker 3: Woodland Hills and his best buddies were on the team.

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Speaker 1: Is like Loop Polite and Tutu Ferguson and all.

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Speaker 3: These Woodland Hills dudes. He went to Michigan went, we

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Speaker 3: could have had two of those three together wide out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So maybe sad yep, I imagine, So yeah, it

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Speaker 1: could have been good. Then let me tell you this

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Speaker 1: san Antonio Holmes recruiting story had all three of them. So, Matt,

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Speaker 1: the ESPN staff is put together mid season predictions, no playoffs,

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Speaker 1: MVP twenty twenty five, draft, that kind of stuff. So

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Speaker 1: some of these questions, how will they We'll answer these ourselves.

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Speaker 1: Will also let okay you some are their answers. How

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Speaker 1: will the playoff races play out? That's the first question

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Speaker 1: for Ben Solak. His answer was the Ben, the Baltimore

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Speaker 1: Ravens will make the Super Bowl with an improved pass defense. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't know where the improvement is coming from.

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Speaker 3: Necessarily make some schematic changes and be a lot better

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Speaker 3: with their communication. Things like that would be some helpful.

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Speaker 3: But they're not getting any players.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Okay. So one of the things that

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Speaker 1: he mentions in here said the Ravens are fifth worst

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Speaker 1: than the league against the pass. Blah blah blah. I

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Speaker 1: don't know that those numbers will hold. Corner Back Nate

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Speaker 1: Wiggins and linebacker Trent and Simpson are improving each week.

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Speaker 1: By the nickel. Cornerback Arthur Molett is returning from a

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Speaker 1: knee injury. That ain't moving the knee over me.

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Speaker 3: That's not there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, didn't they bench Williams the safety too? Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a lot of communication stuff on the

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Speaker 3: back end, and I'm not sure the pass rush is

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Speaker 3: gonna get dramatically better.

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Speaker 1: No, where's that improving? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Right, communication stuff should get cleaned up. I mean that

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Speaker 3: should not go all year with hands in the air.

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Speaker 3: You got him, I got him, you know that kind

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Speaker 3: of stuff. Right, But I don't think they're gonna get

659
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Speaker 3: dramatically better. I could see Simpsons and Simpson and Wiggins.

660
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: The Ravens are a team that should have traded for

661
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: Preston Smith.

662
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 3: Oh y Smith didn't bring back Clowney. Yeah, I mean

663
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 3: Clowney did great for them. He's actually playing okay for

664
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 3: Carolina or done anything there?

665
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. You know Kansas City, well this is really going

666
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: out of Jason Reid, really goes out on a limb here.

667
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: Kansas City will be the number one seed in THEFC,

668
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: No kidding.

669
00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 3: I think that's probably go two.

670
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: Game lead on every but he else. They've beaten all

671
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: the other ones.

672
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the rest are Division is not that hard

673
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 3: to play against and that. Yeah, yeah, I think they

674
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 3: have a real good chance for that.

675
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you didn't really go into limb there. Jeremy

676
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: Fowler says the Miami Dolphins will claim an AFC wild

677
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: card spot. Wow, that's bold. I mean we are two

678
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: and six. I know we sort of had this conversation

679
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: they better be in Arizona this week.

680
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, losing last week was bad. I mean, like, well,

681
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 3: not even last week. Two weeks ago was a winnable game.

682
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 3: Three and six. Now, I guess three and six. Three

683
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 3: were two and six.

684
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, they lost to the Patriots. That was a bad.

685
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm thinking of. I mean, losing the

686
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 3: Buffalo's understandable. They hung with the Bills and a kind

687
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 3: of close to a must win game. I guess there

688
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 3: are two and six. Yeah, I think they're two and six.

689
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 3: I think that too. My issue is not necessarily two

690
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 3: in the offense and all that. It's just we've seen

691
00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 3: this model. They fade, the season, goes on their best

692
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 3: of years, you know, and now you're in a hole already.

693
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 3: You know, like we're starting season over and it was

694
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 3: September and hot in Miami. I'd be like, I get it,

695
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 3: you know, but not the weather stuff that's coming up.

696
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 3: And I think they have some late games in bad

697
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 3: places like yeah, Cleveland and Buffalo, and like you know,

698
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 3: some played in Buffaloes yea, New York, New England. Yeah,

699
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 3: they have some. It's not real clean mode. Well for them.

700
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: No, they don't like the snow. They don't play very

701
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: well in the snow. But there's also not that many

702
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: good candidates in AFC's so you need they need to

703
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: start stacking some wins beginning this week against uh, the Cardinals.

704
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: The Tampa Bay Buccaneers will earn an NFC wild card spot,

705
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: says Aaron Shatz.

706
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 3: Okay, I know there remaining schedules. Not brutal. Get Evans

707
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 3: back as soon as possible would go a long way,

708
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 3: but that's a lot tougher climb.

709
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: This is one. So this comes from Liz Losa fantasy analysts.

710
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: I don't know her work, I do, Okay, Yeah, the

711
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers will beat out the Cincinnati Bengals for an

712
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: AFC wildcard spot.

713
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 3: And Bengals are be happy to be fighting for a

714
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 3: wild card spot. Yeah, putting the cart before the horse area.

715
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: I'd say so. And it's the Steelers would be disappointed

716
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: to be fighting with the Bengals for a wild card spot.

717
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. Things that would have gone wrong and since you

718
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 3: would have the night. Yeah, you know right. I still

719
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 3: think since he's very much in the wildcard, I think

720
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 3: they are too.

721
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: But I don't think it's going to be necessarily a

722
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: matter of Steelers beating out the Bengals for it wild cards.

723
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 3: I'd be shocked if Week eighteen is for a wildcard

724
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 3: spot or loser goes home, right, that would.

725
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: Shock me, like, oh, that would mean the Steelers are

726
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: probably the seventh seed.

727
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 3: That's not I mean, I could see Cincinnati needing that

728
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 3: game to get in. Yeah, but I'd be shocked if

729
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 3: it's one of these two teams goes the other one doesn't.

730
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: You got a bold prediction on the postseason. On the

731
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: playoff races, playout.

732
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 3: Chiefs win at All.

733
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: Said go big or go hard.

734
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 3: Of me thinks this could be the Bills here, just

735
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 3: because they're doing things differently. Finally, you know that they're

736
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 3: a really physical offensive line. They put they bring a

737
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 3: six guy out more often than anybody. Ray Davis. I

738
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 3: know he's not special, but like embrace that you play

739
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 3: in Buffalo and you're gonna host home games, don't don't

740
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 3: beat your you know, don't. It's not a race to

741
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 3: forty five to beat the Chiefs, be the Bills, you know,

742
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 3: I mean, be the Bills. And I think Alan is

743
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 3: going to win a super Bowl some point of his

744
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 3: you know. I mean, I always had this conversation in

745
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 3: the AFC, there's so many good quarterbacks. Well, mar gonna

746
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 3: win one is hard. We're gonna win one, you know. Well,

747
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 3: they're not all going to win one. Chance is our

748
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 3: Most aren't because time goes quick. But I think Alan

749
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 3: will and maybe you know that's a long way away.

750
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 3: This is a top exercise.

751
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, my pick at the beginning of the season was

752
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: for the Detroit Lions to win the Super Bowl. I'm

753
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: sticking with that.

754
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a strong one. I mean, if you had

755
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 3: to pick a Super Bowl participant right now, would it

756
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 3: be Chiefs Lions? I think that's who I would pick.

757
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: I can't remember if I had to think. I think

758
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: I had Chiefs lines at the beginning of the seedeon

759
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: I remember what I had. But right now, I think

760
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: that's what. I don't think the Chiefs make it, don't you.

761
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: I don't think they do. It's a tough road, yeah,

762
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: I mean they're gonna have to. I think I think

763
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: they'll be the number one seed. I think they could

764
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: lose in the second don't This could be the year

765
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: they don't. That don't be my bold prediction. The Chiefs

766
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: don't make the AFC Championship.

767
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 3: Oh wow, that would be the worst Mahomes year ever.

768
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, just going big.

769
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 3: Packers are another team I kind of an eye on too,

770
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 3: that the best might still be yet to come. Love

771
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 3: gets a little bit better health wise. I think they

772
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 3: can make noise and maybe be a Final four team

773
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 3: or even a Super Bowl representative. Yeah, a bold prediction

774
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 3: is not that bold is Niners are on the outside.

775
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 3: Look at it. I'm not saying I'm making that, but

776
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 3: I could absolutely see the side of it. I just

777
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 3: not super over their year and a lot of injuries,

778
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 3: a lot of contracts and a lot of distractions. And

779
00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 3: what if McCaffrey isn't Superman. You know he could come

780
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 3: back and to say.

781
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: You know, certainly almost thirty.

782
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's had a lot of wear and tear.

783
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: I think I think I think Baltimore could go into

784
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: Kansas City and win. I think Buffalo can go into

785
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: Kansas City and win. Yeah, I think Pittsburgh can go

786
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: into Kansas City.

787
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 3: And win be a certain type of game. I don't

788
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 3: think Houston can.

789
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: I don't think Houston can either. I don't think they're

790
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: ready for that. But I think those three teams crazy

791
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: ones could the Chargers potentially, They're not fourteen thirteen, know

792
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 1: what I mean. They play them twice a year, so

793
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 1: they'll at least.

794
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 3: Have been in there.

795
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: You know, there'll be a dog. I'm not. I'm not

796
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: saying any of those teams, but they all have the

797
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: capability of going into Kansas City and winning.

798
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 3: Like their edge guys could give those tackles a lot

799
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 3: of problems if they can keep it close.

800
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: And win in the margins and harbor it up. And

801
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 1: Herbert plays his a game. We forced a.

802
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 3: Couple of Mahomes turnovers, which he's he's done this year.

803
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 3: I mean, that's a Charger thing, you know. I'm just

804
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 3: saying because in division too, you know, they'll be very familiar.

805
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: But I think I think there's more teams that have

806
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 1: the capability this year of going into Kansas City and winning,

807
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: maybe ever before any probably probably you know, everybody talks about,

808
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 1: you know the beginning of the year, Cincinnati's a team

809
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: that can go into Kansas City and win. I think

810
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: there's more than that now.

811
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, Burrowhead and all that sense.

812
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, he does kind of look like whatever he's got

813
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 1: going on up there.

814
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 3: Like, I don't think they can. I mean, even if

815
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 3: they wint.

816
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: Defense, they're not good enough defensively to do it.

817
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 3: No, they'll run on them.

818
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, like Baltimore makes me nervous for that, but Baltimore

819
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: will stop the run. Oh yeah, yeah, And I do

820
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: think Baltimore's past defense won't be the worst in the league. Yeah,

821
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: you know, it's also get slightly better.

822
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 4: Yeah.

823
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know that it's going to prove enough

824
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: to be league average, but it will be better than

825
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: what it has been.

826
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. And like the Buffalo's not intimidated by them either. Yeah,

827
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 3: they just haven't beaten them, but they've got awful clothes.

828
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 3: Who do you like the Eagles get super hot? I

829
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 3: mean they're starting to really heat up right now too.

830
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: They could, you know, they could, and they've they've dealt

831
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 1: with some injuries Steelers, like they've dealt with some Johnson

832
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: and A J. Brown, I mean some big dog ugs.

833
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Yeah, I think you know, they could

834
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: certainly beat the Lions. Who else could beat the Lions

835
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: in the in the NFC, say Bay, although they just

836
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: lost them, but at home, that's the vision. It was

837
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: such a weird game. Yeah, I don't think Minnesota can

838
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: the Niners best day could. Yeah, Eagles, I don't think

839
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: the Falcons can. I don't think the Falcons can. How

840
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: about the Vikes. I don't think the Vikings can there

841
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,959
Speaker 1: I mean in the NFC Championship game in Detroit, Yeah,

842
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: I mean the Vikings are so blitz reliant against that

843
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: all pick it up, yeah, go pick it up. It's

844
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: a good offensive line. There's too many weapons. It's not

845
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: like you could just focus on Jefferson and nobody else

846
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: is going to beat you.

847
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 3: Right, right, I should say I'm on Ross right, Yeah,

848
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 3: I think Green Bay could. I think the Niners could

849
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 3: torn on Philly.

850
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, how healthy is Philly? That's the you know they

851
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: healthy going into that. I can see their defense getting

852
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: manhandled by the Lions. The defense is getting better, but

853
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: Penny Soil just driving dudes down the field. The Lions

854
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: offensive line is a clear advantage. Yeah, Montgomery and Gibbs

855
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: all day lone. Yeah, and their defense isn't bad, but

856
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: it's not great, and it's not the D line.

857
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 3: It used to be either you know, when it was

858
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 3: eight deep.

859
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: No, I agree, outside of that, could if Tampa gets in,

860
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: Tampa's a dangerous team. Yeah. Their defense isn't good though,

861
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: either it's not. But they could score with anybody.

862
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 3: They can score with anybody. I really think Evans would

863
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 3: have to be part of the equation, but it sounds

864
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 3: like he will be. I mean, if they get to

865
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 3: the playoffs, he's unless you get hurt again, of course,

866
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,720
Speaker 3: but it sounds like he's coming back at some point

867
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 3: in the rams. I was wondering that too, McVeigh. I

868
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,280
Speaker 3: don't know if they have enough defense.

869
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the problem with them right now. They could

870
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 1: score when everybody's helping.

871
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 3: Stafford could go to Detroit and make some noise and

872
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 3: be hard to play against and play his best.

873
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: Game, and you give them because of the quarterback situation,

874
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: you give him a puncher's chance. Absolutely absolutely, they could

875
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: score four to go in there and out play Jared Golf.

876
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: Yeah he could.

877
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 3: He's better than Golf my opinion. You know, I don't know,

878
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 3: could they score forty on Detroit? I think they could.

879
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 3: They could, I mean thirty, I mean maybe forty's crazy

880
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 3: but you know a lot of points get a bounce.

881
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. Maybe maybe that's why that's why I want When

882
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: people may look at this score, you're crazy. The Steelers

883
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: can't go into Kansas City and win. Why not. They've

884
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: got a quarterback now, who's, as Mike Tomlan likes to say,

885
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: have been there, done that kind of guy. Yeah, he's

886
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: not going to be overwhelmed by going into into Kansas City.

887
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 3: No.

888
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: The last time the Steelers went into Kansas City, and

889
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: I can't stress this enough. I know that I know

890
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: the Chiefs scored a bunch of points, but it was

891
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: largely because the offense did nothing for eight straight possessions.

892
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 3: Right, Like, couldn't get first downs.

893
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: The Steelers gave Kansas City in the first half of

894
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: that game. I can't remember if it was ten or

895
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: eleven possessions.

896
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then just wore out.

897
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,959
Speaker 1: That should be a game, that should be the full

898
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: games average, not the first half. You can't. You can't

899
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: ask it defense. They gave up. They didn't eleven straight possessions.

900
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: They didn't give up. They scored outscored Kansas City's offense.

901
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: The Steelers defense it was seven nothing because TJ Wide

902
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: have picked up a fumble and ran for a touchdown.

903
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: It's seven nothing, but your offense did nothing with ten possessions.

904
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 1: You just kept kicking the ball back three, three and out,

905
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: three and out, three and out. Against that offense, you're

906
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: gonna you're killing yourself.

907
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 3: And you've got to think too, Like if if they

908
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 3: were to meet the Chiefs, that means they probably won

909
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 3: a playoff game already.

910
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: They would have won probably maybe two maybe two.

911
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, it depends where they ended up, and you would

912
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 3: think the defense is probably quite good at that point.

913
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.

914
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 3: I mean, if you can get to a Kansas City game,

915
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,959
Speaker 3: Kansas City playoff game, it's probably a low scoring game,

916
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 3: you know, and then you're in it.

917
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: You know you got a chance. Yeah, you know, a bounce,

918
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: as you said, a bounce here, a bounce there, block

919
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 1: a kick, block a kick. There's all kinds of stuff

920
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: that can happen, and we've seen that from this Steeler

921
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: like they again, they know how to It's what's different

922
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: about this team then maybe some others in recent incarnations

923
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: of this Yews. They've they've always kind of won in

924
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: the margins in recent years, but now they can also

925
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 1: outscore you.

926
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 3: You don't have to.

927
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: You don't have to. It's not you can still do that.

928
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: You can still win games in the margins.

929
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 3: I mean a year ago, two years ago, three years ago,

930
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 3: at this time in November, if you're a minus two

931
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 3: and turnover differential, you didn't win. Yeah, I mean you

932
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 3: didn't win.

933
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 1: No chance. Yeah, probably you're probably losing by at least

934
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: two touchdowns.

935
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're playing catch up in the end, depending on

936
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 3: the level of opponents. But I'm not even talking about

937
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 3: in Kansas City at the Antic Championship. I'm just talking

938
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 3: about anybody. Yeah, if you're losing, if you hand the

939
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 3: ball over them twice, you won't win that game, right,

940
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 3: you know. But I just think they can overcome those

941
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 3: things now with this running game, slash passing attack. That

942
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 3: can I mean do stuff that they just couldn't do

943
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 3: in year's past. They just didn't have the they didn't

944
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 3: have the big playability.

945
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: Right.

946
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 3: Mike Williams might add a little of that too, Yeah,

947
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, at least does he have five

948
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 3: big plays between now and the end of the season.

949
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I know. People talked about, well,

950
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin, he's so conservative, he's been conservative. He had

951
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: been conservative offensively the last couple of last few years.

952
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: This is it couldn't turn over. Yeah, this is still

953
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: the same guy. However, the coach the Killer Bees, Yeah

954
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: they weren't conservative then.

955
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 3: No, I always go back to Steelers to score the

956
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 3: first touchdown the game, go for, to go for, to

957
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 3: make it or you know, Ben throw it many times

958
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 3: you want because Ab and Juju and his Prime and

959
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 3: Bell and those guys different world. He I think his

960
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 3: strength is knowing his team.

961
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: That's the thing like And to me, that's what that's

962
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: what good coaches do, as he always says, and he

963
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: picked it up from Dicklabo. If you have red paint

964
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: painted barn red. If you have a good defense, play

965
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: to the strength in your defense.

966
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

967
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: If you don't have a good defense, your offense better

968
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: put up a bunch of points. And that's what they're

969
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: that's where they were at in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen.

970
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: They didn't have a great defense then, yeah, yeah, they

971
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: didn't have one. Then they had some players who were

972
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, yeah, who were good. But they they

973
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: had to play to their strength. So the strength was, Hey,

974
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: we're gonna go go out and out score people. H

975
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame quarterback. I can remember they you know,

976
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: they played a game against the Colts in that time period,

977
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,720
Speaker 1: and they went up by two scores in the fourth quarter,

978
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: and they're like, they just kept throwing the ball. Yeah,

979
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: because and Tom start up the game. He says, Hey,

980
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck was standing on the other sideline. We're gonna

981
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: keep scoring. We didn't just We're not going to just

982
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: take the air out of the ball and try to

983
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: run it out.

984
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 4: No.

985
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had too much respect for that guy. He's

986
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: gonna gotta we gotta put forty five on the board.

987
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 1: If we can p forty five on the board.

988
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 3: And Tomlin's coaching style and philosophy to winning and still

989
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 3: getting wins over these last five years or so, it's

990
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 3: pretty obvious. But I think it's not necessarily. That's who

991
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 3: he is. That's who he had to be.

992
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 1: You know.

993
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,280
Speaker 3: Now, as he gets more and more comfortable with Wilson,

994
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 3: well we see a shift.

995
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: I think. Good. I think we're starting to see that.

996
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: We're starting to yeah, yeah, I think we're starting to

997
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: see that. Russell Wilson has a perfect passer rating in

998
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:58,959
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter of games this year. Wow, one point eight. Yeah,

999
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: he's been perfect in the fourth quarter game.

1000
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if he has in completion or something.

1001
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 3: One there was something like that back like one or

1002
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 3: two or nine or something. That's been really good in

1003
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 3: the fourth quarter games.

1004
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: And they've actually gotten that from Pickett too. Yeah, you know,

1005
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: but that's not surprise. I mean, that's kind of who

1006
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: he is. That's been in his DNA over the course

1007
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: of his career. He's got I think he's like top

1008
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: he's certainly top ten all time in fourth quarter comebacks.

1009
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 3: And we talked about it for a couple of weeks,

1010
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 3: but like they're point differential in the second half, and

1011
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 3: the Meelers in the fourth quarter, even before Wilson have

1012
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 3: been really good. You know, Like I think they practice

1013
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 3: hard and are in better shape than some teams and

1014
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 3: a little bit physically and mentally tougher than some teams.

1015
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 3: And we brought it up Wednesday, but they added two

1016
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 3: guys in the trade deadline that are big, physical players,

1017
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 3: you know, Like I think they're gearing up for all.

1018
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 3: Right now we're really the second half of the season

1019
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 3: is here and it's going to be different.

1020
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know, so you know they know that

1021
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: there's a as as Mike. As Tomlin said on Wednesday,

1022
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,959
Speaker 1: the road's starting to narrow here, and we're gonna need

1023
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:02,399
Speaker 1: We're gonna need all bodies on deck.

1024
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna need all the big dogs, right, you know,

1025
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 3: we'll see.

1026
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: How about this little set? Do you know the Steelers

1027
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: are the only team this season that have scored at

1028
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 1: least twenty points against the Chargers.

1029
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 3: That doesn't shock me now that I didn't know that

1030
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 3: a minute ago.

1031
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 1: No Number one scoring defense in the league. They play

1032
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: a certain style, Yeah, but the Steelers got the twenty

1033
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: against them. Nobody else has.

1034
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 4: No.

1035
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 3: I want to say the Chargers, like in every metric,

1036
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 3: are the one team that's ahead of the Steelers defensively, Yeah,

1037
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 3: any which way you cut it, they're like pretty much

1038
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 3: been the best defense in the league. Haven't faced the

1039
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 3: murderers rows of offenses, but still that's the one they

1040
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 3: had the least success of those. Yeah, So to throw out, yeah,

1041
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 3: I didn't know that.

1042
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, lots of little things that you know, we're at

1043
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: the midway point of the season. You're starting to get

1044
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 1: a true picture of the team. When people talk about

1045
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: the identity, what's the identity? A pretty good idea what

1046
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: the identity of this team is right now?

1047
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 3: Much better clue now than even a couple of weeks ago.

1048
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Matt, that's going to do for our show today,

1049
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: all right.

1050
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 3: Ben Jefferson was fun.

1051
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: Ben Jefferson was fun. So you can go back and

1052
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 1: listen to the one again. Lots of good stuff there.

1053
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 3: From Van they come up with a prediction for tomorrow.

1054
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 3: I've been going back and forth on this game. Okay,

1055
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 3: this is good to see a lot of different paths

1056
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 3: that could go down.

1057
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand, I get it, I get it. But uh,

1058
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here manning

1059
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: the Justin Miller hotline as he does every day. Uh,

1060
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: and for Tyler Vittmeyer making sure you got you got

1061
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: kudos today on the on the in the comments. Did

1062
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: you see that in the comments in the comments under

1063
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 1: the today sh or Yesterday's show, I should say somebody said,

1064
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: thank you Tyler for making sure these videos get up.

1065
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: All right, so you can thank your mom for going

1066
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: on and checking out and leaving you a little something.

1067
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: I'm Dale, Lolly. We appreciate you listening to this edition

1068
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Speaker 1: of the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network.