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Speaker 1: Fellow conspiracy realist. We returned to you with this week's

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Speaker 1: classic episode. Back in like the end of twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 1: something very strange started happening over the sky of northeast Colorado.

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Speaker 1: This captured our interest, this captured the national interest, and

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Speaker 1: it seems like it's even more important as we learn

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Speaker 1: more and more things about mysterious drones.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we talked to Gabe Lennards not long ago

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Speaker 2: about this very subject, and this is back in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty when we did the entire thing about the news

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Speaker 2: stories that were coming out at the time. So this

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Speaker 2: is really cool context, especially if you heard that episode

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Speaker 2: where we interviewed Gabe Lennars as a part of the obscurum.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this definitely seems like a parallel example of some

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Speaker 3: of the stuff we talked about in that discussion. So

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Speaker 3: why don't we get right into it.

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Speaker 4: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies, history is

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Speaker 4: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now, learned

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Speaker 4: this stuff they don't want you to know. A production

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Speaker 4: of iHeart Radios How Stuff Works.

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,

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Speaker 2: my name is no Matt.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for that kindly.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Oh yes, welcome to you. Welcome to Paul, Mission

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Speaker 2: Control decan who is with us. Welcome to Ben in spirit,

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Speaker 2: who is on an adventure. And he will tell us

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Speaker 2: about it when he gets back. He sure will, and

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Speaker 2: so today or he might not. No, well, who knows,

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Speaker 2: who knows, But if we do learn something, it will

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Speaker 2: be from his mouth and his mouth.

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Speaker 3: Alone, the ways of the Ben Boll in our mysterious ways.

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Speaker 3: That is correct, sort of like the way that character

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Speaker 3: and that U two song moves in mysterious ways. Mister,

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Speaker 3: I can't no, no, yeah, we can't afford Nope, nope, nope.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So today everyone, we are talking about something we've

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Speaker 2: mentioned on this show numerous times. We did a whole

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Speaker 2: series on it in video form and a couple episodes

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Speaker 2: of the podcast on this We're talking about drones.

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Speaker 3: So what you're saying is we're going to talk about

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Speaker 3: the music of Brian Eno.

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Speaker 2: Yes, this is an Eno centric podcast. Some of my

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Speaker 2: favorite music is drone music, particularly if I'm editing or

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Speaker 2: doing something where I need to focus on audio. Sure

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Speaker 2: that is not musical, but like especially if it's talking

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Speaker 2: heads or voices that I'm editing a little drone in there, just.

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Speaker 3: Keeps it flowing some kind of crazy trip in a

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Speaker 3: one of those isolation chambers.

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Speaker 2: You know, yes, very much like that. Good for that,

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Speaker 2: but that's not what we're talking about today. We're talking

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Speaker 2: about the vehicles, the machines, drones, and you know, it's weird.

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Speaker 2: It is really weird because if you think about it, what,

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Speaker 2: maybe a decade ago, maybe not even that long ago,

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Speaker 2: a drone was something when you were talking about it

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Speaker 2: in the news or in social media, it was generally

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Speaker 2: something very different than what we're talking about today. You

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Speaker 2: were talking about an unmanned aerial vehicle that was used

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Speaker 2: by the military, and we're going to talk about the

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Speaker 2: differences between UAVs and drones here in.

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Speaker 3: Just a moment.

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Speaker 2: But it is weird to think that nowadays you can

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Speaker 2: go to stores in a mall, you can go to Amazon,

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Speaker 2: you can go wherever you shop, and you can buy

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Speaker 2: a pretty sophisticated flying drone, one that has camera equipment

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Speaker 2: integrated into the machine itself, or one that you can

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Speaker 2: attach a larger camera to if you go to Dji.

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Speaker 2: It's one of the biggest companies out there. They back

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Speaker 2: in the day they introduced this drone called the Phantom.

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Speaker 2: Remember the Phantom you could buy them meant to Barnes

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Speaker 2: and Noble, Yeah, exactly. Yeah, Well in it changed, it

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Speaker 2: really did change the game in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 2: That particular drone, and there are several others in the

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Speaker 3: Can you call those a quad copter?

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Speaker 2: No? Sure? Yeah, yeah, yeah absolutely. But now like this

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Speaker 3: Dude, that's all it takes. You can get these stunning

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Speaker 2: Oh technology, I'm thinking in particular. I know we're talking

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Speaker 2: about one brand here, and this is not an advertisement

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Speaker 2: for Dji or Digiti, but if you.

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Speaker 3: Do want to send us a free, free dope camera drone,

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Speaker 3: we're here for it.

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Speaker 2: Movies, now, films, television, music videos, even even what do

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Speaker 3: It's shots. You used to have to have a legit

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for two grand, you can get a top of

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Speaker 2: you can fly drones.

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Speaker 2: And it's very good that those regulations are there, but

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Speaker 2: they are just regulations. They don't stop anyone from flying

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Speaker 2: about how technology almost always outpaces legislation, and then legislation

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Speaker 2: but it's it's difficult to enforce on that minute level

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Speaker 2: going to happen. Oh yeah, some sightings are going to occur,

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Speaker 3: I mean, speaking of groups of drones, I don't remember.

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Speaker 3: to me until I looked it up. Drones are male honeybees, yes,

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Speaker 3: really important for getting those kind of shots or to

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Speaker 3: the term drone is interchangeably kind of used when referring

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Speaker 3: small aircrafts that can deploy you know, payloads and precision

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Speaker 3: attacks on targets for the United States military. Yes, and the.

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Speaker 2: Big different here. Every UAV is a drone, but not

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Speaker 2: all drones are UAVs right, pretty similar exactly. So again,

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Speaker 2: But here's the other weird thing. A drone can can

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Speaker 3: Now, I want to see one that's like James Bond

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Speaker 2: But nobody's you know, nobody's talking to talk about that.

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Speaker 3: That's true. They're sitting on that ip for a little

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, then it's got the anti grav drive in

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Speaker 2: We're just going to keep going down this drone train.

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Speaker 2: drone hole and we're going to talk about some mysterious

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Speaker 3: So, as we alluded to, drones have become a bit

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Speaker 3: of a nuisance, if not an outright hazard. Right, Like

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Speaker 3: which can lead to some sticky situations. Drones can potentially

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Speaker 3: potentially make make things safer. This is a pro list,

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Speaker 2: It's certainly an industry that is that is growing here. Well,

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Speaker 2: here's the other deal. We've been using as humans drones

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Speaker 2: drones are being used not only to observe areas just

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Speaker 3: And we're back. So here's the other thing, the quite

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Speaker 3: no social media profile. Right, so what does he do.

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Speaker 3: He starts shooting him out of the sky. That's gonna

435
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,400
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, man, that's gonna become a thing. You're

436
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 3: gonna have these like get off my lawn, you know

437
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 3: types that are out there literally shooting drones out of

438
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Speaker 3: the sky. Well sure, and you know.

439
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Speaker 2: If it's on your property and you have a gun,

440
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 2: and you're in a you're in a state that allows

441
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Speaker 2: for guns, have that, what do you legally, what are

442
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 2: you gonna do?

443
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,640
Speaker 3: At the very least, it's it's good, it's good target practice.

444
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 3: But that's right, there's just no accountability. Mystery drones. Yeah,

445
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,479
Speaker 3: this is a thing around the world and right here

446
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Speaker 3: in the United States.

447
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And today we're talking about a couple of

448
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 2: specific let's call them groups of sightings, certain areas in

449
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 2: the United States where there are a lot of drone

450
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Speaker 2: sightings occurring that appear strange and not only to the

451
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Speaker 2: initial reporters and the you know, people actually having these sightings,

452
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Speaker 2: but to authorities. So we're gonna jump to December twenty nineteen,

453
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Speaker 2: last year, the Denver Post and ABC News and NBC News,

454
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Speaker 2: the local affiliates there. They all began reporting about these

455
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 2: strange patterns of drones that are being seen and spotted

456
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Speaker 2: around northeast Colorado. And we'll see a little later. It

457
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:50,400
Speaker 2: wasn't just in northeast Colorado. So let's just talk about

458
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Speaker 2: what exactly the sidings were. Around seven o'clock at night

459
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Speaker 2: in northeastern Colorado round, you know, fifteen seventeen drone allegedly

460
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Speaker 2: very large ones came from somewhere, flew over this area,

461
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 2: and they appeared to be searching for something. That's kind

462
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:14,360
Speaker 2: of applying meaning to the flight patterns, right, but they

463
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 2: appeared to be in some kind of search pattern, and

464
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Speaker 2: they would They ended up disappearing around nine point thirty

465
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Speaker 2: ten o'clock that night, so let's say roughly two and

466
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Speaker 2: a half hours, three hours of flight time. Reports were

467
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Speaker 2: coming from multiple sources. It wasn't just you know, somebody

468
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 2: playing a prank saying, Hey, I'm seeing lights in the sky.

469
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Speaker 2: What the heck was that? It was, Hey, there are drones,

470
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Speaker 2: and there are a bunch of them, and they're flying

471
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Speaker 2: in this weird pattern.

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Speaker 3: Here.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing. So the Denver Post then quoted Thomas Elliott.

474
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Speaker 2: He's the sheriff of a local county, Phillips County there,

475
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Speaker 2: and he describes the drone activity in pretty pretty good detail.

476
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Speaker 2: The FAA was contacted by Thomas Elliott, the the shaf

477
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Speaker 2: there in Phillips County, who said they don't know what

478
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Speaker 2: it is. They least they can't confirm anything at this point.

479
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 3: In The Air Force chime in too, and they didn't know.

480
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they said, this is not our fleet of drones

481
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Speaker 2: that's operating right now. And then even even Force com

482
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Speaker 2: f O R s co O M, the Force co

483
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Speaker 2: Force Colm, the United States Army Forces Command, they said, hey,

484
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 2: this is also not us guys. So the big question

485
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Speaker 2: is what was occurring in Colorado, northeastern Colorado in December

486
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Speaker 2: of twenty nineteen. What were those drones? That's really our

487
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 2: big question for today. But it's not just this sighting in.

488
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Speaker 3: This area where it gets crazy is here. Okay, I'd

489
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 3: like it.

490
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Speaker 2: I like the spin on it.

491
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Speaker 3: I just I can't. You can't. You can't do it

492
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 3: any better than mister bullets. You got to give it

493
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 3: its own, its own flavor. I love it, all right.

494
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Speaker 2: So so that that is occurring right now, I'm gonna

495
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 2: jump to this other You're just gonna have to bear

496
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 2: with me.

497
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Speaker 3: Noel, I'm with you.

498
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 2: They jump to this other story. Here about one of

499
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 2: the first sightings it was on. This one was on

500
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Speaker 2: December seventeenth of twenty nineteen. In this one, there's a

501
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Speaker 2: sheriff named Tom Nestor. He's in Lincoln County. He said

502
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 2: there have been two confirmed reports of drone sidings in

503
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Speaker 2: his county over open areas such as ranches, and they

504
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Speaker 2: were first noticed on December seventeenth. This is called Mystery

505
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 2: Drones flying over Northeastern Colorado from ABC News. You can

506
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 2: find it if you'd like to. And here's the thing.

507
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 2: Residents in these areas they have no idea what's going on.

508
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 2: They don't understand why the drones are being operated at night.

509
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 2: And the sheriff there is worried about the local airport,

510
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 2: you know, a small airport that's they have emergency helicopter

511
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 2: flights that are going on sometimes at night, depending on

512
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 2: if there's an emergency or a police operation or something

513
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 2: like that. And again the FAA said that you know,

514
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 2: this area is pretty isolated in rural and it's not

515
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 2: really a controlled traffic space, air traffic space, so they're

516
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 2: not that worried about other aircraft running into these drones

517
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 2: or any kind of major things like this. Just to

518
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 2: say like it wasn't a single county that we were

519
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 2: talking about with a Denver Post. It is multiple counties

520
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 2: in northeastern Colorado that are looking into this, and it's

521
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 2: not just those two counties either.

522
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Speaker 3: So let's get into some of these reports. Sergeant Vince

523
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 3: Lovanella Lovanella of the Morgan County Sheriff's Department, he recalled

524
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 3: the moment he began getting multiple drone reports on the

525
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 3: evening of December thirtieth, and he referred to multiple residents

526
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 3: calling in saying that they were seeing all these drones.

527
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 3: They didn't know where they were coming from. They were

528
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 3: hovering above their houses, hovering above their farms. You'd be

529
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 3: hearing reports ranging from four drones to ten drones in

530
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 3: single area at any given time. And then he was

531
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 3: getting reports that some of them were low flying and

532
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 3: were at least six feet long. Now that's like a UAV, right,

533
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 3: I mean that's quite large.

534
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 2: It's close.

535
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's closer to a UAV.

536
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: A six foot drone is pretty dang big.

537
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 3: Seriously, so Lovanella, he you know, made a note that

538
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 3: the drones were so high they couldn't actually be heard,

539
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 3: but they had white and red flashing lights that were

540
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 3: seen when they would fly over areas at a high speed.

541
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Speaker 3: Then they were seen slowing down to that sustained kind

542
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 3: of hovering thing that they do, and they would do

543
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 3: that for quite a while, which is eerie.

544
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 2: And the sergeant they're at the Morgan County Sheriff's Department again,

545
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 2: this is the third sheriff's department for the third county

546
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 2: that we're discussing here. He said, several deputies were attempting

547
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 2: to follow the flight path of these drones, like where

548
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 2: are they going? Where are they coming from? And they're

549
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 2: just in their patrol cars, you know, trying to watch

550
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 2: where they're headed, and the sergeant said they were unable

551
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 2: to determine exactly where they were going. The sergeant there, Lovinella,

552
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 2: estimated there could have been up to thirty drones moving

553
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 2: in concert at a single time. That's a ton and

554
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 2: it's certainly odd, especially flying at night because guess what, guys,

555
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 2: drones are not supposed to be flying at night. According

556
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Speaker 2: to the FAA regulations. It's thirty minutes before dawn when

557
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 2: you can fly a drone, and thirty minutes after dusk,

558
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 2: like after the sun goes down.

559
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Speaker 3: What do you think, what's the rationale behind that?

560
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Speaker 2: Do you think just flying drones at night it just

561
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 2: causes a safety hazard. I think for any other aircraft

562
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 2: that makes sense. And I'm assuming there's may be some

563
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 2: privacy stuff going on there, but I don't know. I

564
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 2: just know that makes sense officially. To protect others, you

565
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 2: don't fly them at night. And these are death definitely

566
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: flying at night. And that danger was illustrated when a

567
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 2: medical helicopter had an extremely close call with an unidentified

568
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 2: drone in that northeastern Colorado area on January eighth of

569
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Speaker 2: this year, twenty twenty.

570
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 3: So on that day you have seventy local, federal, state,

571
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 3: and military officials jumping into action, getting down there to

572
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 3: the rural town of Brush, Colorado to assemble a joint

573
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 3: task force of between ten and fifteen different government agencies

574
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 3: to come together to solve this mystery. I mean, that's

575
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 3: a pretty serious hustle there. The sheriff of Morgan County,

576
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 3: a guy named David Morgan. Interesting probably a coincidence. He

577
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 3: told ABC that he and his colleagues were really concerned

578
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 3: that people might try to shoot the drones down just

579
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 3: what we were talking exactly, an injure themselves or others

580
00:31:56,120 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 3: in the process. By the way, UAVs are considered aircraft

581
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 3: by the FAA, and shooting down an aircraft is a

582
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 3: federal crime, carrying a possible twenty year sentence. So don't

583
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 3: shoot down drums.

584
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 2: But again, then you get in the that's the sticky proper, dude.

585
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 2: It be a crazy court case. It reminds me of

586
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 2: the cannabis legislation of you know, states versus federal.

587
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 3: It's also I mean, at what point is a drone

588
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 3: considered an aircraft? Is it about size? Is there any

589
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 3: distinction between like the little twenty dollars one I buy

590
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 3: from best Buy and like a six foot long one

591
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 3: like we're talking about here. I don't know. I don't know.

592
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 2: I don't know the federal the exact federal law, like

593
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 2: the letter of the law.

594
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 3: I'd be intrigued. It'd be kind of I mean, I'm

595
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 3: sure you probably not a good idea to shoot anything

596
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,479
Speaker 3: out of the sky, but you know still, I mean

597
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 3: I'm interested. So By the time the task force was assembled.

598
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 2: They're like, all right, we got everybody here, everybody's ready

599
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 2: to go. We're gonna figure out.

600
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 3: All this mystery. We got the gang together, we got Scooby,

601
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 3: we Velma, we got really, who's the other one? Shaggy?

602
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 2: Shaggy is the best though, you like Shaggy, who's.

603
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 3: The other one with the ascot who was kind of

604
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 3: a turd. He never was very helpful. He was kind

605
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 3: of the good looking one. Fred Yeah, that was it.

606
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 3: Fred Yeah, Freddie.

607
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 2: Oh boy, Scoob Sorry, that's all I got.

608
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 3: That's good. That was good. And then and then his

609
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 3: girlfriend was was a Veronica. Doesn't matter. We're not talking

610
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 3: about Scooby Doo. We're talking about an elite government task

611
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 3: force as symbol for the purposes of getting down. It

612
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 3: was about the mystery, That's what it was about. It's

613
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 3: getting in the heart of this mystery. But lo and behold,

614
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 3: as soon as this uh creme de la creme, you know,

615
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 3: a converge on this town, everything kind of dries up,

616
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 3: the trail goes cold. No more reports.

617
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 2: Well they started tapering off the official reports, right, but

618
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 2: mystery drones started appearing all over other places. Like Nebraska

619
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Speaker 2: and the local NBC affiliate out there, Channel six News.

620
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 2: Let's see, they're in near Omaha, Nebraska. They started talking

621
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 2: about and reporting a bunch of these mystery drone sidings

622
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 2: at night over farmland. And that was happening in January

623
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 2: seme kind of the same time January seventh, it continued

624
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 2: to happen, just these weird drone clusters flying in a

625
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 2: formation over farmland. Nobody knows what they're doing or where

626
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 2: they're going. It's just odd. It's just stinking odd. And

627
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 2: this task force got together, but they just really couldn't

628
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 2: make anything happen because they had moved on, I guess,

629
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Speaker 2: or at least they weren't being reported as much by

630
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Speaker 2: the citizens there in northeastern Colorado.

631
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Speaker 3: So it's no surprise that, like you know, people are

632
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Speaker 3: prone to do, people started to talk, you know, Yeah,

633
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 3: the rumor mill started going, social media going ham well, seriously,

634
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 3: social media began fueling this thing just worked up into

635
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 3: a froth. So let's walk through some of the possibilities

636
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 3: some of the things that folks were conjecturing might have

637
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 3: been at play. Here, what's most likely and of course

638
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 3: what's the least likely, But First, let's take a quick

639
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 3: break and we're back. So first and foremost, foremost, but first, definitely, first,

640
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 3: let's just address the elephant in the room, the big

641
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 3: green or gray elephant in the room, like UFOs, you

642
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 3: mean that's those are the ones.

643
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 2: These unidentified flying objects that most people have said, Oh wait, no,

644
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 2: they're drones.

645
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that one. So what if extraterrestrials are a

646
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:53,720
Speaker 3: real be here right now amongst us and see using

647
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 3: what appeared to be UAVs to surveil are our planet.

648
00:35:58,840 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 3: What do you think about that?

649
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 2: Matt uh Okay, So, the NBC affiliate as well as

650
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 2: the ABC affiliate in uh well, the the NBC affiliate

651
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 2: in Nebraska and the ABC affiliate in Colorado, both teams

652
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 2: sent out reporters at night to try and get footage

653
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 2: of these drones. And both of those teams were able

654
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,439
Speaker 2: to go to areas where sightings had occurred in both

655
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 2: Nebraska and near Omha, Nebraska and in Colorado northeast of Colorado,

656
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 2: and they were able to see and get footage the

657
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: TV footage of these drones. Most of them were like

658
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 2: a single drone that was flying around at night, or

659
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 2: maybe two maximum flying around but and here's the deal.

660
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 2: They could hear the I believe the Omaha teams at

661
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 2: NBC could hear both propellers on one and then they

662
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 2: saw another one that sounded like an aircraft, like a

663
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 2: like a plane, small planes. So I'm sorry, really quick

664
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 2: clarification for me. Can the UAVs not hover? You say

665
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 2: they're like small aircraft? Does that mean they have to

666
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 2: constantly be moving or can they hover stationary in the

667
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 2: same way that a drune can. A lot of UAVs,

668
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 2: at least the ones that are known about that have

669
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,959
Speaker 2: been operating in places like Iraq and Afghanistan, are more

670
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 2: plane like. They take off and they land and they

671
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 2: fly through the air, and when they fire a precision strike,

672
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 2: the weapon is the thing the like missile itself is

673
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 2: the thing that's being guided by I'm trying. I'm saying

674
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 2: this with a lot of authority, but my understanding is

675
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 2: that systems on the UAV itself and the missile are

676
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 2: working in concerts to make.

677
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 3: The precision and it's an important distinction. Yeah.

678
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 2: Absolutely, But so we're talking about aliens here. The question

679
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 2: is let's let's say the question is would extraterrestrials if

680
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 2: they were to visit planet Earth. Would they just come

681
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 2: down as you know, their bodily form whatever that is,

682
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 2: in a suit or maybe even in an aircraft of

683
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 2: some sort, or would they send some kind of autonomous

684
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 2: drones or even remote control drones to surveil the Earth

685
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 2: before they come down. My answer would be, well, again

686
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 2: from my understanding and maybe just sci fi tropes, you

687
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 2: would definitely send autonomous things that you can replicate again

688
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 2: if one of those is to be destroyed, and you

689
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 2: wouldn't endanger any member of a species or any important

690
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 2: you know being.

691
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, on the surface, it seems like a very humanitarian

692
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 3: effort kind of well, it's got that component to it.

693
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 2: Well, even if the even if the drone is armed

694
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 2: and has defensive capabilities. All I'm saying is you wouldn't

695
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 2: risk God, this is me putting a bunch of my

696
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 2: human like ideas onto this, but in my mind, you

697
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 2: wouldn't risk sending an actual being down. You would just

698
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:57,879
Speaker 2: send an autonomous thing.

699
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 3: Totally. It's gonna check it out. That's that's what I mean.

700
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I think drones obviously have a bad rap

701
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 3: for many reasons, but they do they do accomplish some

702
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 3: humanitarian thing in that they save the lives of pilots

703
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,439
Speaker 3: that might go down with their planes or that might

704
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 3: risk their lives for this mission. So it does cut

705
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 3: down on the human cost of this kind of stuff.

706
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 3: Obviously not for the quote unquote bad guys or whatever,

707
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 3: but on our end or on whoever is wielding the drones,

708
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 3: that as a positive, a net positive. Absolutely.

709
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 2: So here is why I think a lot of people,

710
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 2: once this hit social media began associating aliens with it.

711
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,439
Speaker 2: And I think this is just my opinion that it's

712
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 2: being connected to stories of cattle mutilations.

713
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 3: Are aliens only hanging out in farm country.

714
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 2: Because a lot of that occurs over farms and ranches,

715
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 2: and so a lot of this activity also occurred over

716
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 2: large swaths of land that are used for farming and

717
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 2: sometimes ranching. So I think that's kind of being connected

718
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 2: as the well, maybe these drones or what we think

719
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 2: our drones are actually the alien spacecraft and they're also

720
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 2: doing this other stuff, this weird stuff out there on

721
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 2: the farmland. That's just my opinion again, because it seems

722
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 2: very implausible that the sightings that are occurring have anything

723
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:21,919
Speaker 2: to do with extraterrestrials. But in my mind, you got

724
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 2: to leave it open for possibility until you can conclusively.

725
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 3: Prove what it is. I mean, the Internet's gonna do it.

726
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 3: The Internet's going to do So we move on to

727
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,720
Speaker 3: maybe in order of plausibility. I guess we've got secret

728
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 3: military practice. We certainly know and can attribute many quote

729
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 3: unquote UFO sidings to people catching a glimpse of classified

730
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 3: tests of secret military tech. Sure, right, that's the thing.

731
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 2: Sure you know some of the sidings do put the

732
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 2: drones or estimate the drones to be about six feet

733
00:40:56,120 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 2: let's say in I don't know in diameter, possibly a

734
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 2: larger model that we're unaware of commercially, or there are

735
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 2: some models that are pretty dang large and could fit

736
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 2: the bill there. But size of the drones aside. It

737
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 2: feels unlikely that the military would be operating and conducting

738
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 2: tests over private farmland. Generally, when you're thinking about that

739
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 2: kind of thing, you think about Groom Lake and other

740
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:27,280
Speaker 2: facilities like that. They have huge areas of open land

741
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 2: that they can fly things over. Why would you not

742
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 2: do testing?

743
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 3: It would be super risky.

744
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, there are air bases, there are huge areas of

745
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 2: land and sea that are controlled by the United States

746
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 2: military that you could do that kind of testing over.

747
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 2: And it doesn't make sense to me why they would

748
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 2: do it over private land. But again, I don't know,

749
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: it isn't This one is, let's just say, far more

750
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,240
Speaker 2: likely though, than the extraterrestrial angle.

751
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 3: Right, really, Matt, really quickly, What's what. I'm so shocked

752
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 3: that these consumer drones the battery life on them is garbage. Yeah,

753
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 3: like five minutes, six minutes on some of these. I'm

754
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 3: looking at one that's five hundred bucks and the battery

755
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 3: life flight time is six minutes.

756
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, spend fifteen hundred more dollars and

757
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 2: it goes up pretty heavily.

758
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 3: Man.

759
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 2: You can get extra Can you get extra batteries on

760
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 2: some of them?

761
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 3: I don't know. You could bring it back and flip

762
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 3: it out, but that's not the heat on there. I

763
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 3: was just surprised because I bought like a pretty cheap

764
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 3: drone and I thought the battery life was insanely low.

765
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,760
Speaker 3: But now I'm looking at even some of the expensive

766
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 3: ones are quite low as well.

767
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: Well.

768
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that is a thing to bring up here.

769
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 2: These drones were allegedly operating for two and a half

770
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 2: three hour long time.

771
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 3: I mean, those are clearly high as hot high. I'm

772
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,399
Speaker 3: looking online right now, I'm like, where can I get

773
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 3: a UAV for sale? You can't, you just can't.

774
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: You know.

775
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 3: The best one we could get would be, like, you know,

776
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 3: a couple grand, maybe ten grand or something like that

777
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 3: for a really crazy fancy cinema type one for UAV. Well, no,

778
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 3: a drum can't. You can't get a you can't. That's

779
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 3: not even a thing. There's nowhere a guy like you

780
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 3: or me could get our hands on one that we

781
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 3: have to find some sort of a black market, you know,

782
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 3: weapons dealer or something like that. So, yes, to your point,

783
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 3: the flight time really does add to the whole military

784
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 3: component for sure.

785
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 2: But it all depends on the model and whether or

786
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 2: not it's something that is available to, like you said,

787
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 2: consumers are prosumers. Okay, So here's the other thing. Could

788
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,479
Speaker 2: this be not just a military practice of some sort,

789
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 2: but an operation like let's say they're going out and

790
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: trying to observe something on the ground over these areas

791
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 2: of farmland that is not necessarily observable by the human eye,

792
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 2: and that's why they're operating at night. Maybe they're using

793
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 2: infrared sensors or something.

794
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 3: Maybe they are.

795
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 2: Tracking with some other sensor that we're not thinking about,

796
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 2: maybe radiation.

797
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 3: That sounds that's a little.

798
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 2: Implausible, but it's again something that would be unseeable that

799
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 2: you could track with a machine's such as this with

800
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 2: certain sensors.

801
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I mean, there's you know, there's no question that

802
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 3: something along those lines is going on.

803
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 2: Well here's and here's the other thing. What if it

804
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 2: is some kind of let's say, grow operation.

805
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 3: Mmmm, that's a new one.

806
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 2: Now we're talking about Colorado.

807
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 3: Like this is to monitor their crops and make sure

808
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 3: no one's like making sure the cops aren't trying to

809
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 3: snatch their crops.

810
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 2: Or looking for crops.

811
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 3: Perhaps, I see, I see, that makes more sense.

812
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 2: Or but what if it is internal what if it

813
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 2: is a grow operation that is, you know, trying to

814
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 2: keep tabs on their stuff, trying to make sure they're good.

815
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 2: Maybe it's a secret where the stuff is actually being

816
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 2: grown for some reason. That is intriguing, especially when you're

817
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 2: talking about Nebraska, because you know, in Colorado, what's the

818
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 2: state of marijuana. Cannabis in Colorado legal? Okay, So what

819
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 2: about Nebraska.

820
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 3: No, not something.

821
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 2: Okay, So the drones have been seen in Nebraska and Colorado,

822
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 2: and I'm wondering, and this is complete speculation on my

823
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 2: part that there may be some kind of weird thing

824
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 2: going on between something being grown in Nebraska and taken

825
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 2: over into Colorado to be sold. That's complete speculation. If

826
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 2: you are doing that and are part of this, I

827
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 2: don't care personally, don't reach out. But that's just my

828
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 2: that's my theory.

829
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 3: Can reach out to me if you want. I just cad.

830
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 2: But but could it be Uncle Sam doing something illegal

831
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 2: like that they want to keep away. Maybe they're maybe

832
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 2: they're hunting for something that's on the ground somewhere, maybe

833
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 2: some kind of foreign intelligence sensors that exist out in

834
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 2: the middle of farmland.

835
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 3: Why would you.

836
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 2: Have foreign intelligence sensors in the middle of farmland somewhere?

837
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 3: I don't know.

838
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 2: Maybe because it has something to do with strategically placed

839
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 2: missile silos that are across the United States. Okay, in farmlands.

840
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 3: Okay, is this are you? Is this? Are you speculating

841
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 3: about this? Are you speculating again?

842
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 2: Inside speculating again?

843
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 3: With these secret missile silos.

844
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 2: I'm trying to give examples of why, like why in

845
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 2: the heck would some unknown military group be coming farmland

846
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 2: in Nebraska and Colorado.

847
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 3: It's a good question. What if there's you know, let's

848
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 3: let's go step further unacknowledged research by some other government agencies,

849
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 3: like the United States Geological Survey, for example, using drones

850
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 3: to conduct routine So this is like the innocuous version

851
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 3: of this problem that you're describing, right, Yes, just you know,

852
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 3: to do geologic survey, we activities.

853
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 2: We do have to point out there are agricultural uses

854
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 2: for drones in places like Nebraska and Colorado. And I'm

855
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 2: I'm I'm just gonna put this out there. There are

856
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 2: reasons where you would want to have drones flying over

857
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 2: farmland to check out crops, especially when you're in certain

858
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 2: times of the season.

859
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 3: Sure.

860
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, So if you go to the University of Nebraska

861
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 2: Lincoln or Lincoln, Nebraska, they've got a thing called Crop

862
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 2: Watch at the Institute of Agriculture and Natural Resources.

863
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:36,959
Speaker 3: That's a mouthful, Yeah, the.

864
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,919
Speaker 2: Institute of Agriculture and Natural Resources crop Watch. So they

865
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 2: use they use drones for a variety of reasons for

866
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 2: working nitrogen or you know, managing the nitrogen that goes

867
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 2: into a certain crop, let's say for corn, especially checking

868
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 2: out something called stand assessment when you're looking at a crop,

869
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 2: like checking out weeds or scouting for weeds. That way,

870
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 2: you don't have to actually drive out there and look out.

871
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 2: Let's say you've got a huge swath of land that's

872
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 2: just farmland that's got corn all over it or wheat

873
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 2: all over it, and you want to assess what's going

874
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 2: on with the weeds out there, you can send a

875
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 2: drone and check it out. It's really interesting. There's all

876
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 2: kinds of uses that are being developed for drone technology

877
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,919
Speaker 2: within agriculture and farming, and it is a real thing.

878
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 2: So when you're talking about seeing a bunch of drones

879
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 2: on farmland, right, maybe it's just being used for that. Again,

880
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 2: it gets back to why fly at night though, And

881
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 2: if you're using infrared technology, maybe it's for hunting pests

882
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 2: or for identifying pests that are out like nocturnal that

883
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 2: are out at night, which is another possibility here, but

884
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 2: who really knows. And outside of just agriculture, there are

885
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 2: other reasons that you could be like checking out like

886
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 2: essentially for mapping, right sure.

887
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so there's the geological survey STUF. There's think

888
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 3: about I mean, think, come on, think about the way

889
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 3: Google uses cars to go around and like take three

890
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 3: hundred and sixty degree photos of cities, you know, for

891
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 3: Google street View and stuff. How cool would it be

892
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 3: to be able to do that aerially, you know, with

893
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 3: with drones that can take the same kind of either

894
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 3: VR type camera that would be hanging from the bottom

895
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 3: of one of those that can record literally an entire

896
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 3: sphere at super high resolution. You could use that for

897
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 3: really in depth mapping. I mean, I can't imagine why

898
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 3: if it's not already being done. It's certainly not being

899
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 3: done by the military in secret, you know.

900
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean the satellite imagery that consumers in

901
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,479
Speaker 2: the public are not privy too, that exists out there.

902
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 2: That's pretty satellite imagery.

903
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 3: You don't think you could go even further, get even better, Like.

904
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 2: With I absolutely thinking if you're taking four K six

905
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 2: K photography over the land, the question is why farmland

906
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 2: that's just got wheat or true? Well in the other

907
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 2: the argument there is that it's far enough away from

908
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,479
Speaker 2: roads where you can't just have a Google car drive

909
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 2: by and get you great images.

910
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 3: But you know, but Google tends to be pretty transparent

911
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 3: about that kind of stuff. And again, you wouldn't do

912
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 3: it at night, because that's not gonna make a good image,

913
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 3: you know.

914
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 2: Yes, if it was a big company like Google or

915
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 2: something like that, they would most certainly alert the FAA

916
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 2: and local regional authorities that was going down, if not

917
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 2: just the private landowners, right, I mean, well, I don't know.

918
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 2: Would Google alert the private landowners.

919
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 3: They're supposed to not be evil, so I would hope

920
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 3: they would at least give them a little call.

921
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 2: They don't. They don't let me know when the Google.

922
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 3: Car drives by my house.

923
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 2: Oh, now looks terrible at Google.

924
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 3: That's a good question. I've always wondered that this is

925
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 3: a whole nother discussion. But isn't it kind of invasion?

926
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess whatever you can see from a

927
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 3: public place is in the public domain. You can take

928
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 3: a picture of the front of my house and it

929
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 3: be on zillo or whatever. I did not have to

930
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:57,280
Speaker 3: give you permission to take that picture, It's true. Yeah,

931
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 3: m your lawn usually does it?

932
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, if I take pictures of the front of

933
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 2: your house, like just.

934
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 3: At night, I would have not I would expect nothing less. Okay, cool,

935
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 3: you creep.

936
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:10,720
Speaker 2: Glad to get that retroactive.

937
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 3: Yeah you have, you have full cart blanche creep privileges

938
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 3: on my abode. No, but then you so there you go. Right,

939
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 3: So okay, so let's let's let's just cross some things

940
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 3: off the list. Right, Aliens pretty easily dismissed by far

941
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 3: the least likely possibility. Now, I'm not scoffing anyone the

942
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 3: believes in aliens. There's been in this scenario. You know,

943
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 3: it's again that rumor mill that kind of tends to

944
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 3: get the Internet going nuts with stuff like this. That's

945
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 3: always like kind of a low hanging fruit for a

946
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 3: certain type of enthusiast. Let's say, right, if there was

947
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 3: anything weird going on in the sky, something that could

948
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 3: not be explained, then the proliferation of surveillance technology would

949
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 3: make that pretty quickly apparent. I would say, if these

950
00:51:55,320 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 3: devices originated from outside of our hemisphere or something, right, yeah, yeah,

951
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 3: that would.

952
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,240
Speaker 2: Get flagged most certainly. And if the military was doing

953
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 2: some kind of operation out there on private land, they

954
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 2: would admit it, at least in a broad term. They say, hey,

955
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 2: we've got there is something occurring, right, now and we

956
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:20,919
Speaker 2: are operating in this area, but there's nothing to see here.

957
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 2: Don't worry about it. We're going to move elsewhere for

958
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 2: further testing or something like that. I mean, they they

959
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 2: admit the X thirty seven B that we keep talking

960
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,879
Speaker 2: about on the show over and over and over, which

961
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,919
Speaker 2: is a drone. It's an unmanned space drone. It really

962
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 2: does creep me out. Again, this is something that we

963
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 2: very much enjoy talking about, and we monitor what X

964
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 2: thirty seven B and the rest of the amazing mini

965
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 2: space shuttles are doing out there that are just kind

966
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 2: of doing their own thing. Ben in particular is a

967
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 2: huge fan of the X thirty seven B.

968
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 3: Just so everybody's aware of that.

969
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 2: But we do know that United States has conducted secret

970
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 2: operations where they test things on small populations within the

971
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:10,359
Speaker 2: United States, specifically with chemicals and other things like that.

972
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 2: So maybe you could imagine that these drones are spraying

973
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 2: some kind of chemical. Speaking of that, by the way,

974
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,760
Speaker 2: what if they are crop dusting?

975
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,720
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, so a kind of a high higher

976
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 3: tech version of the old planes that would that would

977
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 3: fly over like in north By Northwest.

978
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, putting pesticides on a crop or you know,

979
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 2: treating with certain herbicides to kill the weeds. If they're

980
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 2: using some kind of you know, large GMO seed or

981
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 2: something like that, that is very much a possibility. The

982
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 2: weird thing is the landowners weren't aware in some cases. Okay,

983
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 2: so there's more to this. By the way, we didn't

984
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 2: even talk about just amateur operators of drone enthusiasts that

985
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 2: are just doing night flights, which is a possibility.

986
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 3: I don't think. So that doesn't add up with the

987
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 3: with the length of time these things were hovering in

988
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 3: the air, the length of the actual.

989
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 2: It seems, and it is a swarm of them or

990
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 2: you know, multiple drones at one time. Yeah, I guess

991
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 2: that doesn't really match up. But it is a possibility,

992
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 2: and it's more likely than extraterrestrials I would say, I

993
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 2: would tend to but you know, we just have to

994
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 2: keep that in there. So let's talk about as we're

995
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 2: kind of wrapping up here, let's talk about the social

996
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 2: media impact and really the fear that was generated and

997
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 2: concern after this started being reported in the media.

998
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 3: So what if the folks in these Colorado counties started

999
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 3: reacting to the initial reports and these reports influenced the

1000
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 3: way they interpreted stuff they saw, like the better Meinhoff

1001
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 3: syndrome or complex or whatever, where you have something on

1002
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 3: top of mind, you start to see it everywhere, a

1003
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 3: song in your head, a word, whatever. This is like

1004
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 3: an extreme example of that. Because again with all of

1005
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 3: the you know, kind of alarmists alarmism surrounding the proliferation

1006
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 3: of drones for all those reasons we listened to the

1007
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 3: top of the show, there's a reason people would not

1008
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 3: be trustful of them and tend to, you know, go

1009
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 3: down those mental rabbit holes when they see it and

1010
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 3: think that they're seeing them everywhere and they're after me,

1011
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 3: you know, they're watching me. Right, it's like almost a

1012
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 3: form of mass hysteria kind of right in a way, potentially.

1013
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 2: So.

1014
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:30,919
Speaker 3: For example, Colorado officials had received ninety reports of drone

1015
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 3: activity between November twenty third and January twenty third, and

1016
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 3: of those, fourteen are be confirmed to be hobbyist drones.

1017
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 3: Of twenty three drone reports since jan sixth thirteen were

1018
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 3: determined to be quote planets, stars or small hobbyist drones.

1019
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 3: Those are all very different things.

1020
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, because not all of these sightings are created equally

1021
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 2: they you know, the site or the distance at which

1022
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:02,280
Speaker 2: the drones are sighted or the alleged drones are cited

1023
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,879
Speaker 2: is very, very different. And again, some can be heard,

1024
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 2: some cannot, some are just flashing lights, and some are

1025
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 2: much higher than others. And by the way of those,

1026
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 2: let's see thirteen since January sixth six were ruled out

1027
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 2: as atmospheric conditions or commercial aircraft.

1028
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 3: What do you mean conditions?

1029
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 2: Atmospheric conditions you know, swamp gas. No, just kidding, but

1030
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 2: just some kind of other atmospheric conditions.

1031
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 3: A sort of visual disturbance, some sort of like honestly,

1032
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 3: I'm not exactly sure what they are referring to there, but.

1033
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 2: Just they were ruled out by the authorities.

1034
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:43,720
Speaker 3: I got it, I got it. That's a weird one.

1035
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 2: But there were four that could not be identified by

1036
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 2: the local law enforcement, which is something, right.

1037
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 3: So at that point don't they officially become UFOs they

1038
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 3: can't identified?

1039
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 2: Well, well, here's the deal. Imagine you're reading the first

1040
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 2: report that came out in December. Okay, let's say it's

1041
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 2: the evening. Let's say you walk outside. You live kind

1042
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 2: of near a farm or a bunch of other farms,

1043
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 2: and you're just looking around in the sky and then

1044
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 2: you see something that you don't normally see or you

1045
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 2: don't normally notice because now you're looking for it, and

1046
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 2: it's just an airplane, but to your mind, you're primed

1047
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 2: to be seeing something that's you know, has to do

1048
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:27,919
Speaker 2: with this article, the information you've just processed, Absolutely that

1049
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 2: could be exactly what's happening. And then you know more

1050
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 2: and more people, all of these other reports get generated,

1051
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 2: and because everybody's looking for it now, it's certainly a possibility. Essentially,

1052
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 2: what I'm saying is false reports. But here's another thing.

1053
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 2: What if there were no drones ever? What if the

1054
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 2: drones never existed? And this is where.

1055
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 3: We go to Vice, right. Vice did some reporting that

1056
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 3: argued that the drones never in fact existed. Instead, the

1057
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 3: drones were, according to their arguments, simply misidentified, despite what

1058
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 3: was reported as an organized grid search pattern, regular schedule

1059
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 3: and all of that. So what does that mean? Is

1060
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 3: this a cover up? Are there some possible like nefarious

1061
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 3: ulterior motives at play here? What's going on? Possibly?

1062
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 2: Let's get into this other thing here, which is one

1063
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 2: of the most popular theories that you may have read

1064
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 2: online or seen in somebody's feed somewhere. So among let's

1065
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 2: call them drone enthusiasts, people who who like to operate drones,

1066
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 2: is that the timing of this whole thing the end

1067
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 2: of twenty nineteen early twenty twenty is pretty coincidental with

1068
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 2: this recently proposed FAA rule that is going to or

1069
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 2: will would could require drones to be identified remotely using

1070
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 2: a unique identifier and GPS coordinates that get sent via

1071
00:58:56,000 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 2: cell signal to a central database. And a lot of

1072
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 2: enthusiasts worry that this is going to wreak havoc on

1073
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 2: their ability to just go and operate their drone when

1074
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 2: they feel like it where they feel like it, in

1075
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 2: a place that they're already following the rules to be safe.

1076
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 2: But then this is just going to add another layer

1077
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 2: of bureaucracy, basically, And these hobbyists who are against this

1078
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:21,439
Speaker 2: FAA rule think that this whole mystery drone citing thing

1079
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 2: over my property and all of that is a way

1080
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 2: to drum up support for this new rule that would

1081
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Speaker 2: at least allow the FAA to keep tabs on every drone.

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Speaker 3: That's flying in the skies.

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Speaker 2: I am interested in what you think about this new

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Speaker 2: proposed FAA rule about knowing where all the drones are

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00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 2: at any time when they're being operated right into us

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Speaker 2: call us. Let us know what you think about that,

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Speaker 2: especially if you're a drone operator. I really want to

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Speaker 2: know what you think about all of that. Now, as

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00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 2: we're getting to the very end here, I just want

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Speaker 2: to bring up that I actually personally only called the

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Speaker 2: WOWT news desk. This is the NBC affiliate in Omaha, Nebraska,

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Speaker 2: and they did a lot of reporting. This is the

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Speaker 2: Channel six NBC channel there. I talked to someone at

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Speaker 2: the news desk specifically asked him about the mystery drones

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01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 2: and the reporting that's going on what they have found out.

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Speaker 2: And this was just the other day. We're recording this

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Speaker 2: on February seventh. I talked to him two days ago,

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Speaker 2: and this is what he said. The aviation folks that

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Speaker 2: we spoke to said the majority of them were actual

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Speaker 2: airplanes that were being reported, both small aircraft and larger

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01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 2: aircraft that was higher in the sky. The sheriff's department,

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Speaker 2: after initially investigating looking into this stuff in the county

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Speaker 2: where they lived there in Nebraska, he said that the

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Speaker 2: department was no longer interested in looking into this stuff.

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Speaker 2: And he further said that the station and the news

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Speaker 2: team were unable to determine if the drones were actually

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01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 2: moving eastward because part of this part of the story

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Speaker 2: in Nebraska there that I can't remember if I even

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01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 2: talked about, was that the drones appeared to be moving

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Speaker 2: only eastward from where.

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Speaker 3: They were in Omaha, Nebraska.

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Speaker 2: Huh, it's just a little odd, but a lot of

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Speaker 2: the reports were saying that's what was happening, and he

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01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 2: was just saying that the news team couldn't determine if

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Speaker 2: that was the case. And in the end, he believes

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Speaker 2: just what we were talking about, that it became a

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Speaker 2: social media phenomena where everybody was seeing drones now and

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Speaker 2: everybody's reporting it.

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Speaker 3: It's a common phenomenon in some of these types of stories, though,

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Speaker 3: isn't it. You know, you start to kind of believe

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01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 3: the hype, or you start to believe or you maybe

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01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 3: even you there's part of your brain that wants to believe.

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Speaker 3: It's a combination of people that are like really freaked

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Speaker 3: out and a combination of people that are like fascinated

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Speaker 3: by it and think, oh there, uh, you know, given

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01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 3: given the scoop, you know. And they're they've got the

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01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 3: inside track on this stuff, right, They're part of something.

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Speaker 2: You know, Dude, If if a story popped up in

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Speaker 2: the Ajac tomorrow about a Mothman siding somewhere in the

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Speaker 2: old fourth Ward, h uh, you better believe I'm gonna

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01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 2: be out with binoculars just scouring every dark no, but

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01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 2: just searching for a sighting, hoping that I'll get to

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Speaker 2: see it, even if that initial report was bogus. But

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Speaker 2: if I do see something, I mean, you better believe

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Speaker 2: I'll call it. Everybody.

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Speaker 3: You you weren't with us that that road trip I

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01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 3: went on with Ben and Scott, Benjamin and Casey Pegrim

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01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 3: for a car stuff years ago. I was there in spirit.

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01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 3: We went there to the Mothman Museum. And there's this

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Speaker 3: statue of the Mothman. Where is that? What's what's what?

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Speaker 3: What's city?

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Speaker 2: Is that Point Pleasant? No?

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Speaker 3: No, that's right, that's right. Okay? Is that West Virginia?

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01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 2: Yes, it is Point Pleasant.

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01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 3: Maybe there's a statue as a sculpture of the Mothman

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01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 3: in their little downtowns where and he looks like one

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01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 3: of those he Man action figures from the eighties with

1148
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 3: like he's got like a nine pack and a very

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Speaker 3: defined buttocks.

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Speaker 2: M Ingrid cold Man A big fan. Well, who, I'm

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01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 2: a big fan of the whole thing, the whole model man.

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01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:16,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 2: Hm, hey, have you seen.

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01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 3: The Mothman write to me and us? Yeah? You can

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01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 3: hit mat up on social media at Mothman Lover sixty

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Speaker 3: sixty six. Yes.

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01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 2: Uh, somebody someone out there has that username, you think so, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure probably because I tried.

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Speaker 3: To use it. I think it's actually at Matt Frederick

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Speaker 3: underscore h no, underscore, iHeart. Yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 2: So, look, let's get to our conclusion because we do

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01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 2: have some information from the Colorado Department of Public Safety

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Speaker 2: because they concluded that quote.

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Speaker 3: We at the Colorado Department of Public Safety have confirmed

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01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 3: no incidents involving criminal activity, nor have investigation substantiated reports

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01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 3: of suspicious or illegal drone activity. The Door Out of

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01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 3: Information Analysis Center CIAC or SAC will continue to receive

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01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 3: and analyze suspicious drone activity reports. Sounds like they're closing

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01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 3: the book on this one. They're leaving it open for

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01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 3: you know, and they're like saying, hey, quit bugging us

1171
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 3: with this stuff, you know, yeah, stop letting your imaginations

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01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 3: run wild.

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01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 2: If you want to read the official report, you can

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01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 2: head on over to Colorado dot gov and search for

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01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 2: update drone activity. You'd probably be able to find it

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01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 2: that way. Got it. It's it's pretty good. I mean

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01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 2: they're reading good light reading there. I mean they're updating

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01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 2: it as it goes. So that's one of the best

1179
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 2: things you can do right now, besides reaching out to

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01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 2: somebody who's you know, reporting on it or sure has

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01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 2: cited something. So we really just want to know what

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01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 2: you think about all this stuff. Have you noticed suspicious

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01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 2: drones anywhere where you live, especially if it's in the

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01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 2: middle of nowhere or over large areas of farmland. Is

1185
01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 2: there something? Is there some pattern that maybe nobody else

1186
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 2: is noticing. Write to us, talk to us. Conspiracy Stuff

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01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 2: show on Instagram, Conspiracy stuff on Instagram and Facebook. Check

1188
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 2: out our hears where it gets crazy page or group

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01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 2: on Facebook.

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Speaker 3: M hm hmm. Yeah. All you gotta do is name

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01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 3: myself Matt or Ben, or make some passing reference to

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01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 3: a thing that we recognize from the show lore, or

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01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 3: just make a little pun or just say something clever.

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01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 2: Or just bring up mission control.

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Speaker 3: Paul Dickett. We love that too, of course. Of course,

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Speaker 3: how could I possibly leave out mission control himself? I

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Speaker 3: feel like a real heel.

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Speaker 2: No, no, we just will know for sure.

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Speaker 3: We'll know you're not a Russian bot or an autonomous

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01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 3: essentient drone trying to get at us.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, you can call us. We are one H three

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Speaker 2: three std WYTK. Leave a message, record your drone sighting

1203
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 2: if you can, that would be amazing. Or fly a

1204
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 2: drone while you're on the phone with us, that's not dangerous.

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01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 3: Make sound effects with your mouth like a drone.

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01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 2: If you don't want to do any of that stuff,

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01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 2: send us a good old fashioned email.

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Speaker 3: We are conspiracy at iHeartRadio dot com.

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01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:30,520
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