1 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: As a guide and hunter, I've spent thousands of days 2 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: in the field. This show is about translating my hard 3 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: won experiences into tips and tactics they'll get you closer 4 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: to your ultimate goal success in the field. I'm Remy Warren. 5 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: This is cutting the distance. It's the middle of September. 6 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: I know for many areas a lot of people have 7 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: been encountering some really tough conditions this elk season, mostly 8 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: due to wildfires around, low visibility, some hot weather, and 9 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: then there's also been the flip side, where depending on 10 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: where you're at, you've just run into some awesome hunting. 11 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: For me, it was a pretty slow start. First portion 12 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: was pretty smoky, pretty hot, not a lot of running activity. 13 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: But as soon as that pressure system changed man as 14 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: animals started firing up, we got some cooler weather in 15 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,199 Speaker 1: and it turned out to be awesome. Actually, recently took 16 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: a bull with my longbow just this last weekend, and 17 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: it made me realize some of the calling techniques. Especially 18 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 1: when you're calling by yourself, it can be very difficult 19 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: to draw a bull into your location because what they'll 20 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: do is they'll hang up just out of range. So 21 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: this week I want to kind of go over some 22 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: of the tactics that I use and calling a bull 23 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: in when you're by yourself in ways that you can 24 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 1: use not necessarily call, but certain times you can use 25 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: silence to get that bull to come in a little 26 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: bit closer. This past weekend was just one of those 27 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: weekends where it goes from zero to a hundred. I 28 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: don't know if anybody else experienced this, but the start 29 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: of my oak season was a little bit rocky only 30 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: because or at least the start of my elk hunt, 31 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: because the smoke was so bad. It was hot temperatures, 32 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: and the animals just were not being active. I couldn't 33 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: even like I just couldn't buy a bugle. It felt 34 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: like I was going to some of my favorite spots, 35 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: some places that I knew well that generally hold elk 36 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: and just not turning anything up and I couldn't glass 37 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: to find him. So it just kind of felt a 38 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: little handicapped. But that all changed when the weather itself changed, 39 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: so it was kind of like hot, terrible conditions. But 40 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: the night before the weather shifted, I ended up going 41 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: to a spot and getting one bugle, so I thought, Okay, 42 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back into this spot, well, that pressure 43 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: system kind of changed up a little bit, and that 44 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: next morning, I started out early, just like most mornings, 45 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: throughout a locator bugle before daylight, and heard a bowl 46 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: kind of like back up on the ridge behind me. 47 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: So I figured, okay, I'm gonna work into that spot. 48 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make any more noises now, because I 49 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: wanted to get close before I let out any more sounds, 50 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: and just wanted to also kind of wait until it 51 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: got closer to shooting light because I didn't want to 52 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: draw him in too early. So I get back in 53 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: the trees on this ridge is like burnt and there's 54 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: all these little pines around, and I'm in the trees 55 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: shooting light now, and so I let out just a 56 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: few cow calls, just testing the waters here, and then 57 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: I let out a bugle. Then it's almost like the 58 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: amphitheater starts a bugle across the valley, a bugle up 59 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: on the ridge to my right, and then I hear 60 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: not necessarily a bugle, but just like this heavy breathing 61 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: behind me and stuff breaking. So I turned around, give 62 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: it a big bugle, and then those other bulls fire 63 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: off across the canyon I can hear whatever is behind 64 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: me now has moved off, and it let out of 65 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: a few little like chuckles back behind me. So I 66 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: dropped down, circle around get a view, and the bullet Actually, 67 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: I'm in really close to me, maybe I would say 68 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: probably twenty yards or so, but just it was so 69 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: thick I never actually saw him. So I get around 70 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: and about a hundred and twenty yards out, I see 71 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: there's a small five by five and I thought, I've 72 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: got my long bow with me pretty much. If that 73 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: bull came in, I would definitely have probably drawn back 74 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: and shot him. But I also kind of at the 75 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: beginning of the season, thought I'm looking for a bull 76 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: that has at least six points on one side. I 77 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: don't care, it's just like, for some reason, I kind 78 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: of set little goals for myself and I wanted to 79 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: hunt with my long bow, and if it had six 80 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: points on a side, that's what I'm looking for. So 81 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 1: I decided to walk away from that small five point 82 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: because I had two other bulls just going crazy across 83 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: the canyon every time, one with bugle, the other with bugle. Okay, 84 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: this is a pretty good situation. They sound like more 85 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: mature bugles. This other one kind of wasn't really into 86 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: what I was doing, what I was cooking, so I 87 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: figured I couldn't see these other bowls. So I bugle, 88 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna now make my way across the canyon. 89 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: I figured if some other bull comes in, and I 90 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: decided I want to shoot it, cool, but I'm gonna 91 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: go see what these other ones look like first. So 92 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: I start moving that direction bugling, and now at this 93 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: point I'm just doing like I'm kind of matching the 94 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: bulls bugles, and I finally put eyes on the bull 95 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: across the canyon. I'm like, sweet, that's a good enough 96 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: bull for me. It looked like it had six points. 97 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: Decent looking animal, and she's pretty fired up. So I 98 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: start working my way that way. I kind of break 99 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: out of the pine trees like the forest part, and 100 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: I'm trying to move quick to get into position because 101 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: I don't know where these other elk are, but I 102 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: know that that one. I could see him working over 103 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: the ridge where most of the other bugles were, so 104 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: I wanted to get there fast enough to try to 105 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: intercept him. So you didn't go into that big herd 106 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: because I could tell that or at least from what 107 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: I saw, it was a loan bull, so I'm like sweet. 108 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: I pretty much used my own podcast tactics of loan 109 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: bull cow call party. So now I'm cow calling and 110 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: that bowl is bugling to my cow calls. And when 111 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: that happened, I just thought, yep, I can call this 112 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: bull in like he likes that. I know what this 113 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: bull likes. Like the other bulls were really bugling to 114 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: the bugles, but this bull really like that sound. So 115 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: I do that, and then he would bugle. So I 116 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: get set up and I get myself on this ridge 117 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: where I'm gonna be able to draw this bull up 118 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: over a rise because he's looking for cows. So I figured, okay, 119 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get to that rise. I'm by myself, so 120 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: I can't draw like when you've got two people calling. 121 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: It's completely different scenario because one guy can go ahead, 122 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: the other guy can draw back. But because I'm by myself, 123 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: I need this bull to kind of pop up and 124 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: be looking for the cows, but not so much so 125 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 1: that he can see everything and not have to commit 126 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: all the way. Unfortunate that I can actually see a 127 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,559 Speaker 1: long distance, so I can can I watch this whole 128 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: thing play out, which is pretty rare. Most of the 129 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: time you're just hearing what's going on, but you necessarily 130 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: can't see it. How where the tactic didn't really change 131 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: in my mind. So the bulls across the canyon, I'm 132 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: giving him the cow calls, and he's liking it. He's 133 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: now coming in on a string. Like I can tell 134 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: by his positioning and the way he's bugling at me, 135 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: he's going to come in. I know that he's coming in, 136 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: So I get set up to a point where I 137 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: think that when he pops up, he won't be able 138 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: to if I was too far from that ridge, he 139 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: would be able to look around and understand where those 140 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: elk care, because man, these elk can just pinpoint your 141 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: sounds so well. So I get set up, I get 142 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: my cameras set up, I set my phone up, start 143 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: calling bulls, starts working in. I actually filmed the thing 144 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: come in the entire way. He drops down below me. 145 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: He's out of sight because I'm crouched down. Then I 146 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: pop up to adjust the camera and I decide when 147 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: he's over there and moving, I'm gonna call as soon 148 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: as he gets out of sight. Then I know he's 149 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: he's working my way. I already trust that that bull 150 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: knows where I am. I'm going to go silent so 151 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: I don't make any more calls. What I want him 152 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: to do have to like search for me. Where's he's 153 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: actively looking. But I wanted him close enough to my position. 154 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: But I don't want to give away exactly where I 155 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: am when he's really close, because I don't want him 156 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: to hone in on me because I'm by myself. I'm 157 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: trying to film all this. So he pops down, and 158 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: now I see antler tips coming up the hill rise 159 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: in front of me. I readjust the camera gets set 160 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: up focus in. The bull stops behind this one small 161 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: pine tree. It's like perfect setup. He's probably fifteen yards. 162 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: Then I see him start to walk out, so I 163 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: start to draw my bow back and he whips his 164 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: head in my direction and I just freeze. I just wait, wait, wait, 165 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: don't move. I mean elker like t Rex of the 166 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: animal world. If you don't move, they don't see you. 167 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: So I wait. But now based on that movement, I know, okay, 168 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: he's probably gonna jump. I've always had my call in 169 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: my mouth. When I'm ready. The bull then starts walking out. 170 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: I let him get a few steps out into the open. 171 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: He's not looking my direction. I start to draw back. 172 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 1: He jumps. As I'm drawing back, I see him move 173 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: focusing on the spot. Release the arrow, hit the bull. 174 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: The bull runs off, goes over the ridge, and I 175 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: got an awesome bull. Essentially called it myself, filmed it myself, 176 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: and shot it obviously by myself, But it was just 177 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: an awesome experience to have that kind of scenario where 178 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: you can see what the elks doing. I had time 179 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: to set up and just like an awesome encounter with 180 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: essentially a really really cool bull. If you're anything like me, 181 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: you might be going on an elk hunt or have 182 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: an elk hunt, and it might just not be feasible 183 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: to have somebody else with you. You might have to 184 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: you might be hunting on your own. Maybe you're hunting 185 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: with somebody that doesn't elk call or can't elk call. 186 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: There's a lot of things, you know, a lot of scenarios, 187 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: but these tips that I'm gonna give you, or not 188 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: just for calling alone, however, they do really increase your 189 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: opportunity of getting that bull within range. But also if 190 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: you're doing a set up. These are just some really 191 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: good ideas on ways to set up. So I'm gonna 192 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: give you my five best tips when you're calling elk 193 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: by yourself or how to set up on ELK. So 194 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: the first tip is going to be to set up 195 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: where they'll stop or where they can't see you. You've 196 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: got to understand, like when you're calling elk, they're gonna 197 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: do a lot of things. They're they're calling, you're calling, 198 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: they're calling, but they're also looking out for i mean, 199 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: just at natural elk behaviors. The animals gonna go to 200 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: where he knows where that sound is coming from, and 201 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:50,479 Speaker 1: he's gonna look. If he doesn't see anything, he's probably 202 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: gonna lose interest. That doesn't mean that he necessarily knows 203 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 1: that you're set up is fake, but he's going to 204 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: go to an area where he can look and say, Okay, 205 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: sounded thirty cows over here. It's fairly open, or I'm 206 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: within a potential distance that I think I could see 207 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: some cows and I don't see anything I'm interested in. 208 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna go back over here. I'm gonna 209 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: go do my own thing. I'm gonna go do something else. 210 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: So making sure you can set up in a place 211 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: where that bull is likely to stop or needs to 212 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 1: come to to verify what's going on is a really 213 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 1: good way to set up. So when I'm hunting by myself, 214 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: I like to stop and try to get to a 215 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: spot where that bull is calling, where I think that 216 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: he's gonna have to peek over, and that's generally like 217 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 1: some form of ridge, some form of change in terrain. 218 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: Maybe it's open, So I'm gonna set up just in 219 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 1: the trees somewhere where it will have to draw that 220 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: bull to come get a closer look is one of 221 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: the best places to set up. And that goes for 222 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: if you're calling for someone having them set up at 223 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: that area as well. If you're getting a lot of 224 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: elk holding up just out of range, maybe you're set 225 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: up and they're always sixty eight yards out. It might 226 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: just be more of a factor of how you're setting 227 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: up and where you're deciding to stop, then your whole 228 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 1: calling sequence or anything like that. So picking a spot 229 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: where you're gonna have a shot, but it's also a 230 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: place where that bowl kind of has to get close 231 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: to verify and use his eyes to see what's going 232 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: on and picking those places wisely if possible, is going 233 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: to really help you get that elk into position. Now, 234 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: another really good tip, tip number two would be to 235 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: call behind you. So using your calls directionally. As I'm 236 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: moving in toward the elk, I like to throw my 237 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: calls towards that animal so it knows, hey, I'm especially 238 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: if I'm biggling, I'm challenging you, I'm talking to you, 239 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: I'm I'm displaying, and I've got these cows here. But 240 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: as I get closer, I start throwing my calls back 241 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: the other direction. I really believe elk are really really 242 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: good at pinpointing where you're at, but throwing it that 243 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: other direction might make it seem or appear a little 244 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 1: bit further way. Now there's this catch where you need 245 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: to draw the elk to your position, but you also 246 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 1: want to not give away exactly where you're at if 247 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: you're by yourself. So I like to throw those calls 248 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: in that opposite direction as I get closer to that elk, 249 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: making no my general vicinity, my general direction that that 250 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 1: bowl will need to travel, but maybe hoping that he 251 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: thinks that I'm a little bit further back than I am. 252 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 1: Then I don't have to be the guy ahead of 253 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: the calling, but I'm using my sound in the other 254 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: way to draw that bolt closer. Tip number three would 255 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: be call soft. It's in the same vein of calling 256 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: behind you, using like a diaphragm call. A lot of 257 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: times I'll do these cow calls or even bugles with 258 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: my mouth closed. It's kind of that same thing where 259 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,359 Speaker 1: that bowl really has to listen in. It doesn't necessarily 260 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: mean that he won't know where you're at. But I 261 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: think one thing that people do too often is they 262 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: get really loud when that animal close, but it makes 263 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: them have to investigate a little bit more like, oh, 264 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: I thought they were here, but it sounds further way. 265 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go look like get curious. And those soft calls, 266 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: those being quiet calls or like calls it half volume 267 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: or less, can be really effective when you're by yourself. 268 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: It's something that I found over the years works really well. 269 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: And I learned that because there's so many times where 270 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: I have a bull and he's screaming and I'm screaming, 271 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: which is really good, but he just wouldn't come in 272 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: that distance, and then I start doing some cow calls. Quiet, 273 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: which is very similar to throwing. The direction different, but 274 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: he's like, m I thought I heard him. Here is 275 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: that elk pulling the close elk away and they come 276 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: in that extra bit of distance. Tip number four would 277 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: be call, then move. It's essentially thinking of it like 278 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: it's a two man set up where one guy is 279 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: behind and then you're up. As long as that bulls 280 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: making noise, you can kind of gauge where he's at. 281 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: So what I like to do is, I'll kind of 282 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: look at an area where I've got ability to move. 283 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: Maybe it's in cover, maybe there's a ridge. I'll go back, 284 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: I'll call. I'll make all my calls in one area 285 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: a little bit behind me, say thirty sixty yards, and 286 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: then I move up and get set up. That's in 287 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: hopes of drawing the bull to that last sound location, 288 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: but being set up further up to intercept him when 289 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: he goes into Look. Remember that bowl. He wants to 290 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: check out what's going on. He might just want to 291 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: test the waters a little bit. If he's not super 292 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: fired up, he might not come in all the way. 293 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: So he's gonna walk into Look. And that's why you 294 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: want to be calling further back and then go up 295 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: and set up quiet and wait for that bowl. The 296 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: fifth tactic is going to be to go dark. A 297 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: lot of elk calling isn't necessarily the calls you make, 298 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: but it's using noise and silence and combination. What happens 299 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: when you go dark. What I mean by go dark 300 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: and just stop calling, make your cow sounds when you 301 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: know that that bull is moving in on you or 302 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: your bugles or whatever, or if it's not maybe a 303 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: fired up bull, but it's a bull that you're using 304 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: cow calls to call to. Going quiet can be a 305 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: really good tactic because I've seen cow elk do this. 306 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: They'll talk, they'll talk, they'll talk, then they'll shut up, 307 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: and that bulls like where are you? Where are you? 308 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: And he's going to go to that last place where 309 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: he heard those elk. This is a really effective tactic 310 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: when you're by yourself, especially if you've got a loan 311 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: bull coming in. If you know that it's a loan bull, 312 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: this is a really great tactic. If you don't, it's 313 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: still a good tactic. Your pinpointing your location to that 314 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: elk by saying I'm here, I'm here, I'm here, I'm here. 315 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: And then now he has to come in and look 316 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: for those elk because he doesn't know did they move off, 317 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: so he moves a little bit slower. You just have 318 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: to use a lot of patients in that scenario. What 319 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: I like to do is I like to create these 320 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: scenarios where that bull has to seek me out because 321 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: I'm by myself, because those elk might have a propensity 322 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: to stop somewhere to investigate the situation, to look from 323 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: a distance, just out of range or just behind stuff. 324 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: I need that elk to kind of have anough curiosity 325 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: to move in and move through some of that stuff 326 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: where I'm set up to come into my location without 327 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: giving him the exact location of where I am. When 328 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 1: he's close, I would say, when that elks further out, 329 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: he could probably pinpoint your location of calling within a 330 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 1: fifteen yard radius. And that's what you want. When you're 331 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: hunting by yourself. You want that bowl to come into 332 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: that fifteen yard radius and start looking around. You don't 333 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: necessarily want him pinpointed on your exact location, because if 334 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: he knows exactly where you are when he's close, he's 335 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: gonna be looking right there. He's gonna be honed in 336 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: on it. He's gonna be expecting to see an elk. 337 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: He might even stop further out when he can see 338 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: that area and look. Now, if he hasn't heard anything 339 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: for a little bit, he's gonna go, huh, maybe they're 340 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: still in that spot because cook don't necessarily have to 341 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: be talking all the time. So they'll talk, they'll talk, 342 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: they'll talk, then they'll go quiet, and that bowl is 343 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: gonna come in and start looking around. He's gonna be 344 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 1: searching for those cows. But he's gonna be looking in 345 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: lots of different directions, which gives you a really good 346 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: opportunity to draw back, to go unnoticed, to be set 347 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: up in a place where that bull will come to 348 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: your location but not necessarily expect to see a hunter there, 349 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: or not necessarily stop further out and try looking in. 350 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: I really believe that a lot of elk hunting success 351 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: comes down to your setup and how effective you are 352 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: using the terrain available, using your calling to try to 353 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: trick that bull to either the shooter or if you're 354 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: the shooter and caller your location by really trying to 355 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: trick their eyes and using their ears by using some 356 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: silence as well as changing the directions of your calls. 357 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,239 Speaker 1: You're gonna be a lot more successful at bringing that 358 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: bull into bow range. I'm super pumped on all the 359 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: messages I've been getting of success of tactics people have 360 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: been using from the podcast to be successful. Those are 361 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: awesome to get. Really enjoy all the photos that I've 362 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: been getting, all the success stories, those are huge me. 363 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: I mean that just reaffirms some of the tactics and 364 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,239 Speaker 1: and a lot of things, knowing that it's helping you 365 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: guys be successful or try something new, or or maybe 366 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 1: if it's a new type of hunt. A lot of 367 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: people have been getting out and doing something different, doing 368 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: something new. So I really enjoy seeing all that success, 369 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,959 Speaker 1: seeing all those stories, and even just those stories of 370 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: tactics that you try to where it was like so 371 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: close but it didn't work out, and just and just 372 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: getting that learning experience in those those cool encounters. That's 373 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,719 Speaker 1: what it's all about, getting out there, getting those encounters 374 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: and giving it at world, giving it a try. I know, 375 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 1: if you're a rifle hunter or you've got hunts planned 376 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: later in the season, you're probably like thinking about all 377 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: these archery elk stories and you're like, man, those don't 378 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: really apply to me. But don't worry. We're gonna be 379 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 1: getting into the thick of a lot of other tactics 380 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: here pretty soon. And if there's certain topics that you 381 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: want discussed, shoot me a message via Instagram at Remy 382 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: Warren because I'm gonna be doing a Q and A 383 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: next week. I've got quite a few great questions lined up. 384 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 1: I like to try even compile some of the similar 385 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: type questions and make sure that I answer some of those. 386 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: One thing that has been awesome is a lot of 387 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: the people that have asked questions have sent me success 388 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 1: stories and success photos based on some of the answers 389 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 1: they received. So if that's that could be you. If 390 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: you've got some questions that might you know, they could 391 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 1: be kind of specific, or they could be broad topic. 392 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: If there's something that you aren't picking up or something 393 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: that you want to know, shoot me those questions. I 394 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 1: would be more than happy to answer them for you, 395 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: or try to get to as many as I can, 396 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 1: so that will be next week. Also, if you are 397 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: so inclined and you're gonna send a whatever message or whatever, 398 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: you can check out. The story that I told today 399 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 1: was just from last weekend's hunt, but I put that 400 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 1: I captured a lot of that on video. That's all 401 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: on my instance story saved profile things. So if you 402 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: want to check that, if you didn't catch it, you 403 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: want to see it all go down and in semi 404 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: real time, especially now knowing the backstory is it's really 405 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: hard to put in you know, all the whole backstory 406 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: into it. So if you want to catch that action 407 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: and kind of see how it unfolded, go check that out. 408 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: They'd be sweet. But otherwise, I really appreciate you guys 409 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: listening tuning in. I'm pretty stoked. That's hying season. I'm 410 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: trying to squeeze these podcasts in between hunts. It's like 411 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: I went out this morning, I got a buddy in 412 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: right now, we're el cunning, we're chasing, getting on him, 413 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: and I feel bad because I sent him out on 414 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: his own, so I gave him some of these tips. 415 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, do this, do this. I've been kind 416 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: of a lot of these things that I'm saying is 417 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: just stuff that I'm talking about in the field while 418 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: I'm out there. So I think that these fall podcasts 419 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 1: can be really timely, really effective, especially because it's top 420 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: of the mind for me, because it's just stuff I'm 421 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: doing every day pretty much from now until December one, 422 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: I'll be out, hunting, out guiding, doing all that good stuff. 423 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 1: So if there's things you want to know, don't forget 424 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: shoot me that message. Otherwise until next week draw mn close. 425 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: We'll catch you later